he understood the united states better sometimes than we even understood ourselves. he was the son of an american mother, proud to have had two great grandfathers who fought in george washington's army. one and the berkshire county militia and the other is part of the fourth massachusetts regiment. it was fitting that in the shadows of world war ii, and and

the dawn of the cold war, when some at home hoped the united states would turn inward, churchill looked outward again and across the atlantic. he traveled to the heartland of our country to a tiny college in fulton, missouri and he spoke of america's awe-inspiring accountability to the future. with so many challenges, all across the world today, struggles to be one, pandemics to be defeated, history yet to be defined, churchill can be heard once again at this dust -- with this bust for all of us to define our time in a manner befitting of a country that still stands, as he said then, at the pinnacle of power. that went essential british subject and statesman upon whom president kennedy, as we learned from the speaker, conferred american citizenship, help define the relationship, the special relationship between the

united states and the united kingdom. more than that, he understood that even the greatest patriots are not just citizens of their own countries but citizens of the world with responsibilities that go with it. as the proud recipient of the state department's first and only honorary american passport, he would no doubt look to all of us today to use the privilege of our own passports as he did to help meet the world's challenges in troubled corners of the globe. cynics today might say that's an improbable aspiration. but hundreds of years ago, in this very city, what could have seemed more improbable than this day itself, to think that in statuary hall, a building british troops tried to burn down, that now the bust of a one-time secretary, secretary of state for the colonies, will forever stand alongside the statue of samuel adams, the founder of the sons of liberty and well it should.

it reminds us that our job is to do the improbable and in that endeavor, as winston churchill's likeness resides among our greatest patriots, winston will remain forever an inspiration to those in the capital and across the continents. we are sometimes, all of us as we know too well, separated by oceans and we are sometimes separated by political party or ideology. but this bust will remind us the bridges we must build to span the gaps so that the work of democracy can continue, so that together we might fulfill the solemn duty to carry forward the cause of freedom and the fundamental rights and so that we can strengthen our alliances, mindful that in a world far more complex than even winston

churchill could have ever imagined or predicted, progress comes only when we pursue it together. the truth is that this bust residing in this capital in this place will remind us of that forever. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, you will recall earlier that i promised some majesty. who better to represent rock royalty than mr. roger's altra, founder and lead singer of the who, 100 million albums sold,

kennedy center honoree, and a member of the rock and roll hall of fame. an icon on both sides of the atlantic. not only for his music but for all he has done to give back. roger was instrumental in starting the teenage cancer trust series in london, and effort to build hospital wards for kids with cancer. and he is now extended that work to the united states with the team cancer american effort. let me also express my deepest appreciation to lucien grange, ceo of universal records who brought roger here making this occasion much more special. we have asked roger to play a song or two and first he will perform his arrangement ofben

e. kings'. " stand by me," which he chose to illustrate the enduring relationship between the united states and the united kingdom. ladies and gentlemen, roger daltrey. [applause] ♪ ♪ >> when the night has come and the land is dark and on the -- and the moon is the only light you will see no i won't be afraid

no i won't be afraid just as long as you stand, stand by me if the stars that you look upon were to tumble and fall and the mountains should crumble to the sea i won't cry i won't cry no, i won't shed a tear just as long as you stand stand by me darling, darling, won't you stand by me oh, please, stand by me come on, stand forever stand by me

when the night ♪ ♪ >> when the night has come and the land is dark and the moon is the only light you will see no, i won't be afraid no, i won't be afraid just as long as you stand stand by me whenever i'm in trouble, won't

you stand by me oh, won't you please stand by me oh woe to -- oh on a won't you forever stand by me ♪ stand by your brother stand by your sister stand by your mother. stand by your side side-by-side with your family if we all stand together we'll survive stormy weather come on, stand by me shoulder to shoulder we will all ways stand free. ♪ [applause]

[applause] >> we will now hear from two people who helped make this day possible. lawrence keller and the right honorable nicholas soames, a grandson of winston churchill and i would like to ask them to join us on stage for the commemorative dedication of this bust.

[no audio] [no audio] >> thank you, mr. speaker. exactly 50 years ago, sir winston churchill became an honorary citizen of the united states. today in the very heart of american democracy, we again recognize the unique life and enduring legacy of britain's finest son and one of the

greatest men the world has ever known. the churchill center is honored to have been invited to make this striking bust for permanent display in the capital and rightfully so. generations of visitors will now have the opportunity to view this iconic work and, through it, be reminded of churchill's singular leadership and role in probers irving -- in preserving freedom in the world and his lifelong belief and friendship in the united states. we are pleased to be joined today by so many members of the churchill family and sir winston's daughter, the lady soames is able to watch online along with churchillians around the world. we are grateful to the estate of oscar nieman and his daughter lady aurleia young with their

help with the bust and no churchill commemoration would be complete without the lifelong scholarship of sir martin gilbert, churchill's official biographer and his wife, the lovely lady esther. lastly, we recognize the enthusiastic dedication of our executive director, lee pollard, who worked so energetically with

the speaker to organize this event. the mission of the churchill center is to foster statesmanship, vision, boldness, courage among freedom loving people throughout the world by preserving the words and deeds of sir winston churchill and by ensuring his legacy of leadership remains a relevant and alive for future generations. in addition to our many ongoing programs and publications and activities come our signature initiative is here in the capital with the new churchill library at the center of george washington university to be built which will provide a much- needed and long long desired home for churchill's scholarship in the heart of our nation's capital. in today's increasingly volatile and tragic world, the lessons learned from churchill broad, well lived life and his

leadership are, and will remain, increasingly vital. we must never forget them. mr. speaker, we thank you for all you have done to make this event happen. [applause] >> mr. speaker, secretary kerry, leader pelosi, leader reid, and leader macconnell and distinguished members of congress, ladies and gentlemen- my family and i thank you most warmly for the very great honor that you have a corded the memory of my grandfather in accepting the donation from the churchill center of this magnificent bust of sir winston to be permanently displayed here in the united states capital. on behalf of all of us, mr. speaker, my thank you for the wonderful tribute you all paid to churchill's memory. he is -- he has a very vivid memory. as you know, my grandfather

visited washington often during his long career but perhaps most notably as a test of president franklin roosevelt during the second world war. on december 20 6, 1941, just days after the appalling atrocity at pearl harbor, he came across the atlantic and was invited to address a joint session of congress just yards away from where this moving ceremony is being held today. on that occasion, as we have been reminded, he famously joked that if his father had been an american and his mother british, instead of the other way around, he might indeed have got here on his own. now, mr. speaker, he lives here in his own right. not as a guest but as a member of an illustrious pantheon here in this magnificent hall. it is a wonderful and resonant and adding tribute in one which would have caused him great pride and pleasure. born to an american mother, he cherished his relationship with america and the american people's, often describing himself as an english speaking union. there is no doubt that the united states adopted him. in 1963, awarded honorary united states citizen ship, the first

of an act of congress, and said to president kennedy, i contemplate with high satisfaction the constant factor of the interwoven and upward progress of our peoples. our comradeship and brotherhood in war were examples. we stood together and because of that, the free world now stands. my grandfather spoke to congress on three occasions but in 1941, as you can see and as we have already heard, he concluded his remarks here with is wonderful statement- " i vow all my faith and hope, sure and environment, that in the days to come, the british and american peoples will for their own safety and for the good of all walk together side- by-side in majesty, injustice, and in peace." mr. speaker, this bust is a symbol that his hope is still being realized for the benefit of this and for future

generations and his memory remains a beacon for free men and free women everywhere. thank you very much. [applause] >> ladies and gentlemen, play stand as the chaplain of united states senate, dr. barry like gives the benediction. -- dr. barry black gives the benediction. >> let us pray- eternal lord god, the giver of every good and perfect gift, we thank you for this bust that reminds us of the power of a single life. lord, thank you for the gift of example rate lives, for people like sir winston churchill, who left indelible footprints for us to follow. we praise you that sir winston served your purpose is for his life in his generation, leaving the world freer, wiser, and

safer. inspired by his great life, may we push back the horizons of our hopes and move into our future, fueled by faith, focus, and fortitude. we pray in your great name. amen.

♪ ♪ >> we will be fighting in the streets with our children at our feet and the morals that they worship will be gone. and the men who spurred us on they sit in judgment of all wrong they decide and the shot gun

sings the song i tip my hat to the new constitution take a bow for the new revolution smile and grin at the change all around pick up my guitar and play just like yesterday then i get on my knees and pray we don't yet fooled again ♪ no, no, no. the change it had to come we knew it all along we were liberated from the fall, that's all. but the world looks just the same history ain't changed because the banners they all

flown in the last war i tip my hat to the new constitution take a valve for the new revolution smile and grin at the change all around pick up my guitar and play just like yesterday then i get on my knees and pray

we don't get fooled again i move myself and my family aside if we happen to the left half alive i get all my papers and smile at the sky i know that the hypnotized never lie. ♪ ♪ ♪ there's nothing in the street looks any different to me and the slogans are replaced by the by the parting on the left is now the parting on the right and the beards have all grown longer overnight. i tip my hat to the new constitution take a bow for the new

revolution smile and grin at the change all around pick up my guitar and play just like yesterday then i get on my knees and pray -- we don't get fooled again. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> meet the new boss it's the same as the old boss ♪ ♪ [applause] [applause]

>> ladies and gentlemen, please remain in your seats for the departure of the official party. ♪ ♪ [god bless america] [captioning performed by national captioning institute]

[captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] >> coming up on c-span, conversation on the future of television news from north carolina. plus a discussion on security concerns at the winter olympics in sochi russia. "washington journal," live each morning at 7 a.m. eastern. now, abc news president ben sherman and hearst television discusst, then garrett, journalism and copyright rules. the event was held in november at the campus of the university of north carolina, in chapel hill. [applause]

>> thank you, david. thank you, susan. this has been a delightful day. this is the second time i have been on campus. i am always impressed when i am here. harbor has been my friend when waders or so, says that i need you, i will go wherever that goes. he has been my most trusted business advisor, i have a high appreciation for him, this has been on his mind for years. this.e talked about i smoke a cigar, wade bears with that and tells me about his vision. i am delighted to be here. i also want to shout out to hank price. hank is my colleagues who runs w

x i i over in winston-salem, station we are very proud of. hank is one of our great leaders and i am glad that he is here. also another person i am glad who is here who wore the hearst jersey for a number of years, he got honest and came to a university for the closing chapter of his great career, he ran the station in pittsburgh for us, an outstanding executive who made the company a lot of money. so, good to see jim again. forve been blessed to work hearst for many years. i was the lucky guy who had the opportunity to run the radio station. i found the company to be a great fit for what i was all about. our company was founded in 1887. we have been at this for a long time and have been at the forefront of media as it has last 426 yearse or so.

active in the digital media space and we will have an opportunity to talk about this tonight. mr. hearst was one of the true visionaries. early in his life as a newspaper publisher he declared it was good business to be a good citizen. it has been a cornerstone of our value and has resonated at all the stations and markets where we operate television stations. that is on my mind as i meet students is teddy roosevelt, who said far and away one of life's great religious is to work hard and have the chance to work hard on something that matters. is important to this community and to all the communities around the country,

aspiring to work in a business thatmatters, do business matters in these communities. one of my abiding believes is that people care about what happens in their local towns. they want to hear about what occurs. men can talk well about national , and wernational media will have an opportunity to talk about local media, tonight. another thing to focus on is how culture is so important in any , along with these notions of core purpose and core lasts along the built to theme, the notion of transparency, honesty, and integrity in reporting. values that transcend the strategic and tactical changes that occur in media on a regular

basis. those are lasting values. there was a great piece in "the new york times" a couple of weeks ago, october 26, that that do not values go out of style. one of the things we are focused on as a company is ethical decision-making in the digital world. then and i will chat about at a little bit. i think it is terribly important. this has been a time of disruption. review this time of disruption as one of opportunity. , randolph hearst was always a gentleman who believed in innovation. we have tried to be gentleman in the things we have done and things we have associated ourselves with, which often means taking risks. risks are a good part of what we do. acting responsibly in the journalism that we do is equally important.

i love the quote from the other hero is dylan, a someone who understands the responsibility that goes with freedom, which should resonate with all the journalists. in recent times in just the past year we have had experience with the boston bombing. our washington bureau cover the navy shipyard shootings. there are all manner of these very significant stories that have been poorly handled by certain people in the media. them,ot here to criticize but i hope we take away learning from the people who did things the right way, the wrong way, and see the opportunity for us to be better as journalists. this is a great calling. i have law of the people who are engaged in the pursuit of their journalism careers here. you should be very excited about what the future holds. as an old guy now, i wish i had

the opportunity to enter the media business at age 20 or 25, this is a time of really great opportunity. there are important careers available to people. always think about how important the role of the storyteller and the editor is. i think about mr. hearst's father, part of the gold rush when he came across the country. there were radio stations, television stations, a few news -- no radio stations, no television stations, and only a few newspapers as we knew them. i imagine that people sat around and spoke to each other around the campfires. few of us are very good storytellers. few of us are very good elders of jokes. to me they were the early journalist. journal -- journalists. i would say the same thing about

, marching of napoleon across the world. high priority on storytelling, it is essentially important to people in the societies that we serve. it is now an opportunity for us to pursue individual pieces of information, different rights of like, butio, and the the notion of a media company that is an aggregator and creates and curates content is still very important. one of the bedrock principles of the corporation as a media if you do not put something on the screen or on the page that resonates with viewers and readers, you are not really in the media business. it harkens to the line that sam nunn used to use from time to

time, that everyone who says they want to be a leader should look over their shoulder and be sure that there is someone behind the leader as he marches down the road. absent any one behind you, he said you are just out for a walk and not really eating at all. we will have an opportunity tonight to chat about some things i hope are on your mind. i am particularly delighted to be here with ben, who is so good to come join us here. no one is busier than the president of news organizations. ben is a young guy, the dean of music executives, telling you what a pair of us and brilliant producer he is. he has made abc news a better place. he and i have become good

friends and i am delighted he is with us tonight. you will have the opportunity to hear his point of view about abc news, an important institution that matters in this country and in this world. the same way that hank does important work in winston-salem, the same as our stations in sacramento, albuquerque, it matters to the local community. people care about their towns, the issues that occur there. it is important for us to be the future in those communities. it makes us who we are in the markets with the important businesses. time.s an exciting there is a great future for journalism. serving people on a lot of platforms. it is an exciting time and i

believe the best is yet to come for this industry, we will have a chance to talk about that tonight. with that, i will be seated. [applause] >> our spec -- our second speaker this evening as the president of abc news, responsible of all aspects of the broadcasting, including world news tonight. in addition, he oversees their and satellite services. he began his career when he was still a student. during a year off from college she worked for the news and observer in raleigh. the los angeles times paris bureau. and the united nations border relief operation in thailand. i have to imagine that it was

especially hard for him to leave raleigh for that assignment in paris. [laughter] launched his journalistic career in earnest when he joined abc news in 1989. stint at the network, at that network with a peacock, he returned to abc news in 2004 as the executive producer of good morning america and it was not long thereafter that he was named president of the entire news division. under his leadership, abc news has been anything but complacent. last year they watched content art ship with yahoo!, reaching nearly 100 million people, serving up to half of a billion videos each month. ,his year they launched fusion launched just recently, stealing one of my favorite lawyers to run it, assuring them good legal

advice. a network to serve and empower u.s. hispanics, the youngest and fastest growing demographic in america. as if that were not enough, he is also the author of two critically acclaimed best- selling novels, the death and life of charlie st. cloud, released by universal pictures in 2010, and "the man who ate the 747," also being developed as a broadway musical in a major motion picture. his latest book is an beatration of those who life-threatening diseases, who triumphed after economic hardship, and who surrenders. i see obvious parallels there with sites topic on the future of television.

please join me in welcoming ben sherwood. [applause] >> thank you, professor. good evening, ladies and gentlemen. it is a great privilege to be here tonight. deans, professor, we appreciate your warm welcome. congratulations on this great night. we jump onls, planes. we will fly anywhere. especially to this wonderful institution in chapel hill. say it is extremely humbling to be excited to share a stage, tonight, with my friend . bbn work together a few years ago. david has been a friend and a mentor. usually when we sit next to each

in the even more contentious board meetings of the network. sometimes we sit next to each other at a new york rockers basketball game. it is a privilege and honor to be here. thank you, i look forward to our discussion. when i look out at this audience tonight, i see a bunch of friends. as the professor mentioned, 29 years ago ipaq up my car in massachusetts and drove a beat- up round saab down into north -- what to start was was a formative experience in my journalism career. i began working for "the news at the observer." . beacon of great journalism what i want to say in introduction is very simple. could do it all

over again, i wish that i could start right here and right now. i wish i could begin a career right now in this highly disruptive, highly volatile, and highly certain media environment. i think the future of television news in the digital area at -- digital era is very bright. now, there is some history to share with you very quickly about the disruption that has taken place over the last thousand years. i think it will give us a sense of what is to come. if you think back to the beginning of communication and storytelling, news is fundamentally a social activity. fundamentally news is coming not hunt over do

there, hunt over there. gotook thousands of years to from the first stories that were told around the fire to the advent of being able to write things down on stone, paper, and then being able to print them on a press. the time between was around 377 years. and then another 71 years until the advent of television. then another four years before the advent of the internet. some futurists predict that the rate of change in the next 100 years, it could equal something like 20,000 years of change in human history. 20,000 years of change. we know that these disruptions are coming fast and furious. at abc news, we welcome the disruptions.

thate excited about change. as the professor mentioned, we have begun to make the changes in that world. a world of digital transformation, demographic transformation as this country becomes a majority minority nation. so, the future is highly disrupted. one of the things i look forward to talking about tonight. this is an exciting moment to be here at chapel hill. in 1984, was to write a letter box. after earning my stripes writing the weather box, my job would you to wrap up for the political reporters and cover some event in some far-flung place where the reporters did not want to go

and they would send an intern. i relished those chances. one of those jobs was to run around north carolina and my see what thed candidates were spending on political advertising. i would like to think that i am one of the few people in this room and this state -- in this room, in this state, who has regularly visited every station. i called my parents and told them i was leaving college for a year, that i would stay in north carolina to see the race to the conclusion. the epic battle between senator helms and governor jesse thorn. at the time, the most expensive history, i went on to write an honors thesis

discussing the changing role of ,ace in north carolina politics going back to 1950, front senator lamb ran against senator smith in the runoff. all fodder for conversation later. david for the discussion. thank you very much. [applause] >> you get the first question. >> excellent. >> today in the new york times, the former executive editor of the times described this as a golden age for journalism, particularly a golden age for international reporting. my question for you, david, looking at where we are today and where we are going ahead, is this a golden age for television news, bronze age? silver age?

>> i lean more towards it being a golden age. of opportunityd out there for us to tell stories on all kinds of different platforms. i believe that people gravitate towards the best available screen. but there are so many screens that they can take advantage of, it is an opportunity for people to engage with journalism, engage the storytelling that is very profound. accompany this year generating 5 billion pages on our websites, 250 million posts on news and weather information. impressions. 60% of those impressions are on smartphones and tablets. the migration to mobile is extraordinary.

i view that as a great opportunity. we strive to have the leading source of local information on traditional television. 80% of our newscasts are rated number one or number two. i think there is a world of opportunity out there. or asnot contract in involved in the newspaper business. our business is expanding because of the proliferation of these devices. the world is interested in video and that is what we do for living. >> i think some people would say that the number of people watching television -- there are these studies that come out periodically, young people in particular are asked -- did you

watch television news yesterday? ago, 49%, seven years of young people said they watched television news yesterday. most recent statistics show that that is around 33%. this sense that there is a declining audience among young people. how do you feel about the changing demographics? >> people are migrating to different places. if we are going to do right be our -- right by our viewers, we will have to be in these different places. it is very important that we have established brands. i spoke briefly about the value of the editor, the value of storytelling. bestthe boss of the television station in the market. though you would expect me to say that. aroundthe bombings occur

the marathon, people's viewership increased. younger people migrated to a known, trusted source for .nformation our audiences were typically greater than that of our largest competitors combined. so, sometimes it takes a big event. oklahoma city, when there are tornadoes in that market, as the demographic patterns change the people do gravitate towards watching local news with local information. it is a challenge to remain relevant, you know. next four about the to five years? it is about maintaining that. we have to stay invested in business, recruiting the best and brightest from institutions like this. find a place for them, putting resources to this business in a proactive way, to remain relevant and create reasons for people to watch our stations and rearm publications.

title ofk the actual this conversation tonight could be slightly modified. i think that we both share the belief that the word television crushed -- of questionable relevance. his stations create, it is that it give journalism. video storytelling that can station,a television and ipad, iphone, or any smartphone. the question to me is, what is of the journal is a mage? all of the students here, telling stories with pictures projected into all kinds of screens.

some of them will be television screens. many of them will be little devices, the little television devices in your laps that one can watch on a watch application, on an or tablet or iphone. so i think the future is very bright and very robust. there is clear evidence that more and more people are consuming more and more video journalism, not just on television, but on all kinds of devices. how are you adapting your story telling your production for different devices? it is one thing to do gma, to do diane's show at 6:00, 6:30 in the evening. how do you view the need to adapt productive and -- adapt production techniques? >> once upon a time, when the web was bolted onto the side of news organizations and digital was literally strapped on to these broadcast organizations, the theory was to simply take

the creations of dollars in shows and put them out on the web and maybe make them a little bit shorter. and i think that it is not profound or a result to know that the web requires and these devices require their own content give we simply can't take what works on television and put it on a mobile phone or a tablet. we have to customize it. one recent example, our team took the abc news ipad app, which was one of the first in this space -- you made recall the spinning blue globe -- and they decided to look at how people use and consume the information on the ipad, which is different from the way they consume it on a television set. they realize that, in the morning, a watch short bursts of information. so we created day parting on the

news app. so they get one expense of the morning which is short. at lunchtime, when people like to snack more, we created a different format for the lunchtime period. and then that, people like to curl up with their laps -- with their apps and we created three different expenses that are customized for this particular kind of device. one size does not fit all. we cannot take television and put it on the web. we are creating content for each of the different experiences. >> social media is a spectacularly interesting tool. news organizations are trying to figure out how to use it in a responsible way. it is fraught with opportunities and also enormous challenges and risks. how do you manage your newsroom?

what kind of conversations do you have about using social media and sources and the like? >> in 1984, in order to get that paragraph of whether copy into the news and observer with a circulation of a couple hundred thousand readers, it had to go through to editors. that was running the goblet of two editors who seemed to believe the fierce and ferocious and would rewrite all 75 words because they were not up to stuff. -- up to snuff. today, some of our young people right out of school who are social media editors have access with the flick of a twitter switch. they can communicate with literally millions of people without any editorial -- direct editorial oversight or editing because they are the social media interaction with the audience. a million people at world news. a million plus at abc world

america. these are the things we think about a lot. there are so few filters and editing writers over that social media interaction. but because it is branded abc news, it has the same stamp. it has the same importance as abc news so we think about that a lot. >> how about at the stations? what is the relative importance of social media and getting your anchors and correspondents and your television stations engaged in the audience? >> it is an important tool, but it requires real responsibility and how we use that tool. we are very mindful of outsourcing and using facebook, for instance, as a source. it carries a real risk with it.

i ask you to raise your hand if you believe that your two closest friends' facebook pages 100% accurate on what everything on everything that is portrayed on the page and nobody raises her hand. and people are in the country, people go to that faced the page and use it as a source. it is a conversation that has to happen in every newsroom. the job of the news director has always been critically important, but it carries with it a lot more responsibility than it ever has before. i was alarmed as can be during the marathon bombing and the aftermath, the hours that followed with the random reckless nature of social media posting accusations and implicating individuals who had nothing to do with what occurred in boston. there was a posting on the web of an eight-year-old girl wearing a number as though she had run in the boston marathon,

which of course he hadn't, and it more and her death. and this -- and it more and -- and it mourned her death. and a lot news organizations ran with it. the apprehension of the bombers, they implicated a fellow at brown university who was convicted in no way with the same. "the new york daily news" ready picture on the front page, if you have seen these people, and they were the people involved in the bombing -- directly this this -- the recklessness of it was frightening. >> we have committed to an entire program that we call abc, which is for accuracy and balance and credibility. for the social media editors, as i mentioned earlier, will have to go through strict and rigid rules about what they can send out and what they can't throw

the different reporting, the priority is to get it right. in our business, it is always to try to be first-in to be right. but in this age, the value of being first has declined rapidly and the importance of being right has never been more significant. one of the things that we noticed during the attacks in kenya in the shopping mall was that, very quickly, parity twitter feeds began to -- parody twitter feeds began that al- shabaab had claimed responsibility. there's all kinds of valuable information that we can gather and can collect from social media about what is happening. everyone can send in pictures and see what is happening. at the same time, there are all kinds of prices under the type to -- types who jump in there and try to have fun and cause mischief. the receiving end of trying to filter all that information and trying to figure out what is

real and what is not real and to have checks and balances in being able to check out all of these different accounts, we have a whole social media team the mobilizes in these instances to begin to try to digest that information and check out what is verifiable and what is not verifiable. about election night in with tk 2012 when ohio was up for grabs. every was was clamoring to be the first 1 to declare president re-elected. you had -- your team in new york election center was monitoring the results coming in from ohio. two challenges on election night. in time square was we suffered right around 11:00 p.m. we suffered a massive power outage in our studio. diane sawyer and george stephanopoulos and the in the eam were sitting dark for 20 minutes. there were no lights.

it was because we plugged in some heaters on outside to keep time f our team warm in square and they were stuck into a wall. someone plugged some heaters and blew the entire power system out. one of the things that was the ohhing i had ever seen as to see our electrical team running from the basement of with auare up the stairs cable to plug us back in. our network. was d thing that happened that we know what happened in a presidential election when major organizations did not call it correctly. to our projection specialists we to have been right. we just have to be right. gab between abc news coverage and projection of ohio some of the other networks

of somewhere between 8 and 15 minutes. agonizing because one sees other networks proclaiming he was re-elected and abc news was not there. on some of the screens behind our people at the various headquarters, the heads are going crazy because other projecting a are winner and abc news was not there. others, d to david and our job is to get it right. if we get it wrong we lose credibility and trust. sometimes it's going to take us a little bit longer in other lections and other situations we've been ahead of other people. we have great trust in our team team. cannot push the we have to let them come to that their own way. >> was abc news damaged in any it was not first that night? >> i don't know the answer to that. would have been much more damaged if we had

gotten something wrong. news was.ink abc i don't think people remember today i bring it up. i remember it. i don't think people remember who was first or second air.ird on the but the consequences of being wrong are much more embarrassing and damaging. so can i just interrupt there? past talked about in the about the importance of winning. winning? fine because most people think definedin television is say by ratings. some might define it in other ways. how do you define winning on election night and on all other nights? winning for hearst television is about conducting ourselves integrity. it's not reputation and about respect the viewer has for us. that's the baseline. then it's about top ratings, top

revenue and top profitability allows us to reinvest in the kindess to provide of service that needs to be people weo employ the employ and fulfill our mission broadcasters. it's a lot more than ratings and i think that there are some people with a narrow point of that says if you win at the ver cost it's worth win. we won't put our name -- we don't wanted to put our name on the loss ofame with integrity. we don't want to damage our reputation. the end doesn't justify the means in terms of how we conduct ourselves. ratings is critically important and profitability is important these are very competitive businesses. e've been in business in television space for since the very first days in 1948 and business as i said

-- 1887 -- 1887 and 1's ability to stay in business that long is successful enterprise. you have to do it the right way. and we're pretty greedy. standards in terms of wanting it all but wanting it all with the right to conduct way ourselves as a business enter pies. >> in that context for the students here, what are you are hiring when you someone for hearst? qualities among the young people who you are bringing into your organization? not necessarily in this order. passion is really important. love what you do. i don't think you can be endeavor in any unless you have passion for what that is. are smart, e hire curious people.

curiosity is something that i we chat with en people and interview people. skills that be developed there the a lot of kill development at this institution. passion and curiosity, a sense really important. i think sense of haouler is really important. eisenhower said sense of humor is one of the most important qualities a leader can have. for that in people that we talk to. who are ink the people most successful in any endeavor have a passion for what they are doing and they bring with it a that's ckage of skill are required. writing is important. people are f photographers. how taught over the years important and how illusive good judgmentes. quality that is hard to tell people -- to show people

people about how to have good judgment. but it's terribly important. we're in the news room you and have someone who has got to make a decision whether they go story, judgment is really, really important. kind of are the qualities that we're looking for. whichould add one quality is whatof that inner-go the historian lewis mumford it.ribed it's lit up from inside and self start. absolutely. driven through that inner-go and inner drive to get things done make a difference. ow does the news room learn from and respond to mistakes? and i think of the navy yard last month or a ew weeks back and two of your competitors misidentified who

the shooter was. quickly and not so quickly had to retract the name that they airwaves.t over the how do you deal with mistakes? how much is management involved in the control room when we're news environment? we take the ll, trust that you described about your station, that's paramount. we know that our with the he trust audience and integrity is primary. happen andt mistakes in e have elaborate stems lace to protect against making mistakes. we train and drill for every kind of scenario so we make very mistakes and also know that they do happen and when they do try to correct them as quickly as we possibly can and

set early as we can and about to learn from them and not make them again. o, i think that one of the things that we know from our friends in newspapers and in that there's that little spot in the newspaper where the corrections appear and happen in journalism. it's just part of the process reduce as much as we possibly can with as many and good people every ining and we try single day we are being right and not just first. mistakes we try and correct those. first you have to acknowledge takes.e the misses a sense s there isn't of institutional arrogance at try to ion but we address the mistakes as quickly as we can in the same spot that mistake and get out in front of that. it a the advice of good lawyers

ut a matter of common sense go.t's the right way to i think that helps us preserve that people have for the station. you can't make excuses about the mistakes you made. ugly one experience that's to tell but one of our stations ome years ago, station was doing a story about pedophile priests. was a priest arrested. t was -- they went to the seminary year book to do a story on this fellow and they of ected the photograph father oh flairty. was ext to the father father oh flynn. it was father oh flynn who had and not father oh flairty. a viewer called the station and

said you got the wrong guy and our station at the time said we know what we're doing. we went with the story at 6 and 11 and it was and not father o and ke we had to correct made a contribution to that arch diocese to correct the situation. it was a horrible mistake. i think when people come to a in these kinds of circumstances, you can't be -- have such a high sense of certain to youed that i can't be wrong. do for a living. i fear certain to youed wherever i see it. never creative or thoughtful and when people have that sense of certain to youed, beware. haven't a mistake we repeated but ill will yous trait active to a problem that pretty good station. >> no one disputes the

of investigative journalism. but in this era of limited it's hard to commit to investigative journalism. your feeling about the team?tigative >> i think it's important and important as the newspapers the investigative reporting as they pull back resources. iton't think we do enough of years we st couple of have had workshops about how to do investigative reporting in a better way. competition out there and so much notion about you can't ment, but starve good businesses. television good stations or good news stations believe there will be a out come and there

won't be as many stations doing the kind of news that we do. we have a responsibility to our viewers and a responsibility to olders to do everything we can to make these competitive and grow and do things that the audience us.s from the country and society benefits investigative journalism. god help us if we're not resources to do that. we're a company that believes in it and has the resources to do it. i think back to an investigative atce that we did in maryland wbal tv that had to do with of environmental laws. it was the kind of investigative work that we do. about newspaper not staying the course and doing the job they do.

friend of mine from detroit conversation would observe that in the mayor's office which is somewhat wouldn't have been uncovered without the enterprising work of the there.per i'm not sure the tv stations would have devoted the resources they had to do to identify that kind of corruption. need to be sure that that's happening in the field of journalism. your mention of baltimore because i think that audience of a an lot of students and people careers in media, you are rrived where without taking risks and had not wins.and do you care to tell us any story about your moments of taking big taking big swings and how those turned out and what you learned from them?

is referring to 1985 or 1986. arrived at wbal radio. one of my objective when i got was try to repay the ate and then and now the rights fees are staggering and to run these things at profit. create a pe you can halo effect. i had in my minds we wanted hese games and i went up to new york and just sold my pants mike and frankenstorm who of the hearst corporation and they liked my enthusiasm and my passion and

me through the hoops, every business model you could look at and i had an answer for everything. i went back home we made a deal with the orioles and i thought, get it going. that was the year that the orioles started 0-22. aughter] dying.s we couldn't sell advertising to every business model you could look at and i had an answer for everything. anybody. there was this morbid curiosity but all they did was lose. laughing.one guy the young radio guy thought he signed stuff because he up the orioles. but there is a lesson there. me but never beat me up. decision.orted the all of us have made decisions that didn't work. kind of s a formative decision and i live to tell

about it in the hearst corporation. it's funny 28 years later. we have about another half hour here and i'm wondering it's time to hink open it up from questions from audience. because we're recording this we questions on e mic. once you get the first question lling then it really goes well for being here. my question is directed to david bear writ but i'd love to hear both of you. you mentioned your fear of what

ould happen to long term investigative journalism with the decline of the newspapers. you see as know what television sort of changing that?to make up for >> i think good television stations will develop more investigative journalism. we have to train our people to are at kind of work and we company that is demonstrably doing that. we have very talented investigative reporters. to be more o learn patient and the newspaper people can remind us that the time required for reasonably great investigative journalism pieces s longer than it is typically the case for the kind of television reporting that we do. o we're gonna have to be more patient. we're gonna have to train people and are gonna to put resources i think you'll see the best tv stations to be in the c do that. year i go to the peabody

awards and we've been lucky to win a number of though awards lmost every year we've won one and i'm impressed by the pieces that renowned tv stations around the need toare doing and we void.the i don't think the newspapers are gonna go entirely away and i don't mean to be so negative about the newspaper industry. chronicle andston a san antonio newspaper and a and aper in san francisco name any, new york, to four and all those newspapers are profitable this year and reshaping their business. they're creating more digital products and working hard at the work before them.

their their ad base is contracting. our company is continuing to invest in newspaper resources kind of nue to do that work. would add that it's excite to be an investigative journalism. i think one of the things excited today there are so many different ways to pursue investigative journalism. there is television and print new igital ventures and kinds of partnerships between onlinefit organizations, and broadcasters. o there's all kinds of cross fertilization. news teamed k abc up with the center for public integrity to do an investigative piece to do diagnosis of black lung disease and we partner with outfits of different year i go

to make our resources go further and to do the very thing that david was describing which was important part of our mission serious investigative journalism that sheds light where we can't shine the light. matters. that's important. > and i would just say about north carolina, one of my memories from 1984 at the raleigh news observer, there a great investigative and pat was a reporter all kinds of change through good old-fashioned reporting. or do taught me a thing about spitting into his cup with tobacco. for he taught me a lot about the time it takes the to do one good investigative took months and months on every single one of

projects. >> yes. student. ck and my question is, you can elaborate on your position you've been trying to nail them in courts for quite a while. which does what air was. was the model and what's your general stance on that? litigation with them in boston. ver the past 3 or 4 weeks we pplied to the court for an injunction to have them cease service until this thing could the court.

numberbeen the case in a of different markets. we view the matter as an copyright.nt of our e produce content and it is and they're tents not in compliance and that's a problem. there are a number of broadcasters who are happy to to a reo tocontents he same way we license to cable. they have a e scheme that allows them to have access to the content. we disagree with that. think ultimately it may be a matter that goes to the supreme court to be resolved. the watch apps are a different story. it's abc content and they're available.t put take wcvb's content and it on an app and put it on an ip delivered medium that's our th scheme contents. it what we want.

this is a case of someone we think taking our content and in violation of the copyright statute. there's invasion there but part of the challenge we've got is are people going to be willing to pay for generated by great journalists in this room and elsewhere. it's a challenge for the industry. a lot of people who feel that they can have free of this content. we're going to be in a world itself if we tain don't get paid for the content we generate. tv station 80% of the revenues we generate come from revenues.g now we're generating meaningful cable, the retransmission consent fees from satellite and tell co. verybody has an issue we love contents but are you willing it. this is to

and tell co. everybody has an issue we love contents but are you willing to that. r >> last week we met a woman 14 d carroll and she pulitzer prizes. presentation to another university and showed photos, t compelling different themes and number of sets of themes. it struck me as i watched her it's a resource that newspapers will want to can. on to as best they we'll miss out on brilliant tory telling from still photographers who are geniuses cutbacks are too many who is going to go and shoot this stuff that is remarkable. the impression hat people would be less inclined to steal her photograph and use it for themselves.

about this, ked than people would be more clipsed to take our video off our television coverage and go out and try and market it. -- it's a more sacred the still photography of these still photographers. disrespect more respect paid to carroll's still video that than the hank price shoots over in winston, salem. ultimately have to pay for content. >> i think that david answered question perfectly. >> hi. i'm tory. i'm a professor at the jay school. again for being here. y first question and i like a follow-up, is whether edward snowden has contacted your and secondly, does -- how it is that you are

reporters, your news executives about what i ofnk is essentially the year the whistle blower. dealing u think about with whistle blowers in an environment where government nformation can be shared so easily, corporate information can be shared so easily. how do you advise your managers reporters? >> well, snowden hasn't us but we're trying to contact snowden. [laughter] this like to take opportunity through c-span to invite mr. snowden to do an abc news.with [laughter] whistle blower point, the year of the whistle blower, i actually note that for as long as journalists have been practicing and in particular the it's f investigative work always the year of the whistle blower. news organizations

n whistle blowers of all different kinds. i think that there's a technical term for what a whistle blower under statute but we depend on people of conscience standing us what is really synonymously imes and sometimes on the record. others to debate and other laws. television stations in the great north carolina and journalists always depend on whistle blowers so we guide our to whistle t comes lowers to ask all the questions, check it out and try is anertain whether there interest in this information and what is their motive. basics rough all the that you teach in journalism school to try to understand why this.person want to say when i was a young investigative

story about the tobacco industry with one of the workedhistle blowers who at r. j.reynolds and who wanted to talk about what was going on was then known as the mouse house which was the lab at j.reynolds where they were looking at the effect of tar and on mice. when we got into it we kinds of he had all onflicting interests when it related and r. j.reynolds information that they had mixed feelings coming forward. t's always whistle blower time and we have to exercise our very ighest standards in evaluating what to do and how to do it and then we have to exercise something that david discussed our judgment about whether or not we broadcast or whether we public this is it in the common

interest, is it the public the national t in interest. >> at the case at the local add where we may have less experience people it's mportant for management, news management and our e.p.'s to be involved in these kinds of stories. the case at the network as well, but we don't have the the of experience through ranks at a typical local station. by t's engagement management. hello mr. barrett and mr. sherwood thank you for being here. a first year ph.d. student here at the journalism school. as someone who is interested in teaching i was wondering if there's anything that you think be teaching our students that may be we're not point, somein