school suddenly began to trust the system of education and let them go on. as a result, you do have 64% of the university community that is now female. they have won the highest award for gender equality. there are more girls in school across the board than there are boys. it is also lead to unusual demographic and now they are realizing that you have this really big generation where you have a decade that is going to work its way through the system. where there were six children per family. they are being supported by two children and it is the same problem of maintaining social security. now, the government, under ahmadinejad they talked about giving gold coins and other incentives so that families would have more children. the interesting thing is that it is now part of the system.

two child per family is the accepted norm. they don't have a lot of interest in going beyond that. they realize those basics. >> let me ask the last question. which is -- where do we go from here? based on your observations, they have given us some advice on what congress should do about the bill. robin has called the sanctions bill a war bill. david has some advice on integrating iran into a regional structure. how would you like to conclude, what final thoughts about the way forward? robin, why don't you -- >> let david. >> you have to start. >> what is next? i do think a deal is possible.

i think that they will compromise more than we think they will to get it. they're really ready to move on. for a lot of reasons, for things that we don't recognize. the environmental problems are horrific. as david knows, the pollution, you wonder that half the population doesn't have lung disease. three of the four most polluted cities in the world are in iran. they are running out of water. we have a great piece about these environmental challenges. some of the rivers have gone totally dry. this is a reality. again, we keep thinking about crippling sanctions. there are a lot of much more basic questions they are really interested in. they want to move on.

i'm really worried that 34 years of tension and making them the enemy -- there is a postcard i remember from the time of the hostage takeover that showed an old woman kicking a map of iran. it said "kick the shiites out of iran." there is still that holdover from the hostage crisis that still defines our perceptions of iran. that is so out of date. that is one of the reasons i keep going back and looking at whether it is the anniversaries or trying to get into the embassy itself. they have moved on. i'm not sure that we have moved on. earlier, we are on the same page. i don't know whether the beyond the to get fear factor to do what is ultimately in both nations national interest. >> i think i'm probably a little bit more pessimistic than robin about the ability to get a comprehensive deal over the next year.

i certainly think we should try to do it. i don't think we should soften the edges of what we are seeking so as to get it. i think it is important that those edges remain clear, we really are requiring them to reverse elements of their nuclear program, to give up things that they have and try to pretend that that is not so, i think, would be a mistake. i would close by saying that i hope that president obama and his advisers on this policy will continue to be strategic and i say continue to be because i think while i would fault many things the administration has done in foreign policy, on iran, they have done this pretty sensibly. when the president came into office, he said, we need to find a way to engage. we need to open the door to real contact with them so as to talk about the nuclear issue and

other issues. then he realized that we need to find a way to organize a coalition of support that will pressure iran to walk through that door. open it and find a way to move them in the direction of negotiation. he did that and the coalition is powerful. he has kept russia and china as part of it with a lot of hard work. basically, i think the president needs to own this and continue to drive it and continue to make good decisions. i thought he was pretty honest the other week when he said to a gathering sort of like this that he thought there was a 50-50 chance of a deal. he was not blowing smoke,. if he sticks to that, and continues to empower secretary kerry and all of the other

key people, even if you don't get the deal after a year, i think the process itself will be a good one for a iran and will give the iranian people a taste of what they will get if they go around the corner. if they can make the turn that i described. >> you were hard on the administration in your column this morning, you were positive on their intent. robin, you've taken us through family planning and the nuclear deal. we really appreciate the work that was done with the wilson center. we look forward to tomorrow as well. i think that your parents will be very proud. very proud. thank you very much. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by national captioning institute]

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>> this week on "q&a," author and educator david bobb discusses his new book titled "humility: an unlikely biography of america's greatest virtue." >> david bobb, in your book on humility, you say humility is a wimpy virtue. what did you mean by that? >> it is often seen as that. i make the argument that it is a virtue of strength. i think humility has fallen on hard times. it is seen as a virtue as something for wimps and wallflowers. people that are going to get run over. in order to be successful, conventional wisdom says you have to be assertive, bold, even putting yourself out there, self-promoting. i think humility countermand that.

it councils a different disposition and attitude. >> define it. >> humility is an honest examination of oneself. you can admit you are imperfect, your imperfections, and think about how one might put others first in thought, word and deed. it is the opposite of self-aggrandizement. >> what if you examine yourself and conclude you are terrific? >> muhamed ali said it is hard to be humble when you are as great as i am. i think there is a lot of that kind of mentality. it can't be a real self-examination. if anybody is honest with themselves, they know they make mistakes. they are imperfect. the tendency is to gloss over those things, to think that one can just get by, that one's