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political games. and let's focus on making elections work better. and this is a good manual to help do just that. >> i just want to conclude this segment by saying, because trey ended on the note about partisanship and being able to tran1e7bd it. the we looked at public administration as our guidance and the expectations of voters across the political spectrum as the light that we had to continue if we keep our eye on it. it's a standard that we needed to continually worry about. but as ben said at the outset, bin ginsburg andtben ginsberg and i i do not think have ever voted the same weight. >> before as he puts it, he matured.
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we just fight each other all the time. i cannot thank him enough. we were able to acknowledge the agreement. keeping in mind the sanders that guided the report and had the extraordinary support of the commission, i think we were able to get something done. with that, we will open it up. >> we will open it up for questions and discussion. lex the election officials will
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read and take to heart and implement and where necessary some of these things may involve legislative change. i was wondering if there may be any outreach to county legislators for the implementation of some of these recommendations and what form that outreach would take. >> in general, everyone on the commission, we want to become evangelists for this project. we did go meet. that is our goal going forward. to go to the same group's that are decision-makers. we would love to be on the agenda to talk about that.
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on the respective states, we want to engage local legislative leaders. >> we have an education. we certainly would welcome all of the commissioners around the issues the a have mentioned. like for example the availability of polling places and the roles that schools plate. very controversial in some respects but it needs to be thought through. >> we will be visiting next month with the national association of secretaries of state and state election directors when they have their washington meetings. that is another example of that. i thought people used to have meetings. apparently now they have the meanings. -- convening. >> i was wondering whether you
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found any of the problems results from the fact that -- [inaudible] >> well, you can take the first shot. we took the situation around eac. they have certain functions. take the best practices material they produce. we found them extraordinarily help all. we read through them. so the eac has done some very good work. the conflict was expressed to -- was expected to it is press and opinion. it is a given when we look at
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something like the impending crisis. you can have the view that he wanted to be in the current form, strengthened or abandoned altogether, but you have to accept as a given that in the meantime while the issue gets played out, we are falling further and further behind the curve in attending to what we need in the way of voting technology to administer elections. so obviously the condition of the eac at any given point was that issues up. it does not mean all of us share the same view. and we did not. does not mean it is properly structured or functions correctly. machine technology there is an issue that needs to be addressed. standard-setting and further
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modification. >> i basically agree with that. it has become a problem and fixing the problem is beyond what we can do as a commission. the machines are going to run out of time to run -- to fix it before the eac gets fixed. you have to do something else to move the technology forward in the short run. >> yes. >> [inaudible] >> again, the business of telling congress to do it is thankfully outside our charge. we will read the questions in
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the glad to brief and then leave it there. >> there are eight thousand jurisdictions that actually administer elections. this his -- is historically state and local function. virtually everything we are talking about implementing here has to be done at the state and local level i think. >> regarding that very point, do you think the recommendation that would help with the long lines such as providing a polling place resource formula and florida should be taken at the local level or state level? the problem is there are 57 different counties. thank you so much for your recommendation. should they be appointed at the state level so there is a consistency and a bigger impact? >> as a native floridian -- in
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miami. elections are in my blood. the way these formulas work, and there are three different ones. we are not putting our finger on one in particular, is that you have to assess how long it takes to vote. you have to have the number of machines and number of people you can put there. those variables -- it will depend on the state but will often be contingent upon the county. the formula they use, it really just depends on the type of voting tech knowledge he you are using. or -- technology you are using. for the state to mandate, it might be counterproductive because it is not sensitive to the differences within counties.
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one of the things as you play around with them online, you will see they do somewhat different things. this is the third one on the tools. this will predict for you how long lines will be if you only put two voting machines and three staff and a polling place and expect this many people to come throughout the day. it really does depend on a lot of the other aspects of the ecosystem. we put them out there for them to be improved. different states are going to take the open source software and try to approve upon it. that is our goal. florida we hope would do that as well. >> we did have hearings in
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miami in june and not july fortunately. the we -- we have a county officials in charge of voting. one of them had a really long fine and said to us, i guess turn out exactly on the nose. if you can figure that out, how do you end up having lines at the polling places? the counties in florida where there were long lines was a very small percentage, less than one percent of the actual polling places in the counties that have lines. 100 are sent -- 100% of the reporters were not 100% of the voters. that is a question of having individual polling places where the resources were not allocated
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properly. or not having a big enough facility to handle things. you will be closest to seeing how many registrations you have in the month before the election and figure out how to allocate resources. if you have 100 machines and say i will put 10 in each polling place, that is probably not a sound administrative decision because you will have a different number of voters at each of those 10 places. to do it right then granularity has to be folks on the ground in the location. >> if i were the secretary of state now, i would want to train on these and exposed the county clerk's for all three of these.
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one of my former county clerk came to the cincinnati hearing and was ecstatic to have this tool. he said this is great, i will use this in my next election. kentucky is a state that is very decentralized. it would be hard to mandate, but not hard to train. the other part is for voters to know they are out there, readily accessible, and if they are not being used, to raise a stink. there is a bit of a voter and advocate responsibility as well. something will be mandated as a result, but some will just be through advocacy. >> i think it will be crucial for states to take a real lead to make sure this is not a poll across the state.
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not necessarily imposing one tool over another. if we are going to shoot for a 30 minute standard, there is a lot of work that has to be done to get there. as someone pointed out earlier today, -- it was always the other guy having a problem, not the person testifying. there is a sense that people except what they are doing as ok, and that is not always the case. bottom line, the local units are the ones that will have to apply it and use it. >> certain states like arizona and kansas to enact more stringent order registration for armaments for their state. i was wondering if that was an issue you have looked at and if
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you will draw conclusions on it. >> the current issues around arizona cap got? we did not address that issue in the report. >> thank you for having us all here and noting the mvra is the least complied with voting rights statute. my states are also recommending the dmv seamlessly incorporate voter registration for these other elements. i wonder why did you stop from also recommending that public service agencies do an important job transacting with eligible voters transition information and also, the federal aca and other of the medicaid exchanges?
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>> i think there is reference to the public service agencies. my role was to make problem's for dmv's. [laughter] >> you always said do your job. >> it is really simple, do your job. the same goes for the agency registration. we highlighted the dmv because it crosses so many populations within the state. just about every population is hit their in some form or another. this law needs to be implemented . there are organizations that actively seek implementation through an force meant and other nefarious means such as courts. there is nobody out there doing that with regard to the dmv.
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you can look at the data, and it clearly shows most states are not doing their job in that regard. a number of applications well under 50% in most states. any state that is doing this as enacted would do well above 50%. that is something that hits every population. but in no way meant to diminish the public agency position. >> you mentioned specific populations that have ballot issues. i was wondering if you had found any racial or socioeconomic disparities and ballot access and if you did, did you consider any proposal to target that? >> the context in which we discussed enforcement of the particular statute was a context
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in which we have very specific requirements. they simply need improved enforcement and compliance. beyond that, i think it is fair to say our view is for the populations you are talking about and others the implementation would be highly beneficial. i think everyone is aware in presidential election years you are going to find some of the break downs in jurisdictions where voters in the socioeconomic range you are referring to reside. and we believe they will pose a significant difference to access. >> why did the commission not say anything about voter id
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laws? does that mean it is not recommended or did you find that to be not part of -- >> there are certain federal and state matters. they are not within our charge to address. that and a few others like voting rights act enforcement and amendments were not ones for which the commission expressed an opinion. >> thank you for doing the briefing and report. you say you want to be evangelists for this project which is great. you also said you received unanimously the advice from election administrations that expanding early voting was a key way of expanding lines and generally improving generally.
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i understand you do not want to get into political advocacy, but given what you have found in the report, can we count on you to pose and condemn those efforts? >> [laughter] >> the report does not get into the business of individual states in terms of what they may choose or not choose to do. early voting is something that is prevalent in the majority of states. 32 states posts -- plus the district of columbia have early absentee voting. so there is pretty much bipartisan agreement. 32 plus the district of
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columbia. there is no excuse for absentee voting. 21 of those have chief election officers. early voting is something that is taken flight in the country as a whole, but it is up to the individual states to decide the days and times and to allocate resources as they see fit. >> in the scope of the recommendation, it is also setting standards and expectations. they have an arrangement, and that is what they think for a election day process. our position is the traditional model for the entire country to vote in the presidential election near, and there are a
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number of options they have to provide the additional opportunities to vote. i think voters expect them. i think there will be a significant accountability to provide them. i think that is what we're trying to push forward, the notion that whatever ends up happening there is significant fallout or that day. >> for jurisdictions that do shift through the earlier. that they did not reduce the services they are making available to voters to dramatically. you can reduce, but you do not want to do so in such a fashion that now you are great being a bottleneck on election day and maybe still have long lines during the early voting time. there is certainly cautionary tales on how the early voting is done, how it affects your voting
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process on election day as well. >> one real specific question whether there were any particular ideas you had not heard about and we will hear about today, a nifty new thing the commission learned and you expect to move across the country. and the broader resolution in the fact that we maybe repeating some of the same problems. if you look at the 2012 election in 2000 we would have had a very similar unsatisfying outcome. what do you think you are recommending here that in 2024 we will not be in a similar position you come and one very smart group had has been looking
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to this, what are we not getting to that you might be getting to? >> let's talk first about what we learned, what was nifty as you put it. the extent of the voting technology crisis is not something i appreciated as the front end of this crisis. this is all groups involved which is tuesday the vendors and others that the process is broken to certify new technology and there is a real risk of massive simultaneous brick down in jurisdictions. so many machines are aging and reaching the end of the natural life at the same time. that was something i did not quite appreciate that the beginning. the second was the point i mentioned before and serious
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reduction in polling places as a result of that. both of the points are related to the early voting. if you are losing machines and polling places, you have to expand the amount of time people are going to vote so you can get them through the process before election day. this is an honest assessment, i hope you will agree, about the problems people have been paying attention to and the problems on the horizon. it is problem -- there is a potential problems will get worse, not better. looking at the changes that are possible, we had a whole day of a hearing in cincinnati where we looked at the different type of
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voting machines -- voting machines possible so the commission enforce those to facilitate -- endorsed to facilitate voting. so we are pushing in that direction and ways that maybe would not have expected. >> perfect. one of the things that is very exciting that experts in the field of usability accessibility, computer experts have been working on it shifting where the ballet gets past. it embeds your choices and selections. you go into a polling place. you are it will to scan the code and on the screen tells you what you have already select it.
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you can either cast the balance by printing it out or taking it over to have it scanned in. this cuts the amount of time people are spending and a polling place. this type of technology can be used by military and overseas voters and used at home. it's across the board would shift some of the voting but not the casting of the talent away from the polling place. it alleviates security issues because of voters verifying what is being done. there is still concerns about qr code usage. there is a lot of excitement there. when you talk about the communities perhaps underserved
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you do not want to shift everything to online. not everyone has online resources. the percentage of the population that has some sort of smart device in their pocket is for ever increasing. it is what the younger voters are demanding of us. i think we need to think about how we will be marking the ballot, casting the ballots and having it be counted in the next 10-20 years. i think that is very exciting. >> what i would say, i think about the opportunity we have, given the rise of technology. also, a defense of the other commissions. after the 2000 election, most states did not have a single wide voter registration database. out of the first commission came that. i found it flabbergasting.
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it was striking it did not exist. the ability with technology with speed. there is a real opportunity of technology that did not exist. that is something that my top hope is that we can really accelerate that. there is momentum behind it and is truly bipartisan. that is something that could not have been done after the 2004 elections. >> something i had very little appreciation for and was helped to be tutored on was the lack of
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uniform data collection. you would think that what not to be difficult to collect and that i would have assumed you could just figure out in a uniform way all of the veriest data points about casting and counting ballots. not true at all. one of the things we call for in the report is a much more uniform way to gather the data to be able to assess the problems and address it. >> the number of young people. i am wondering if any of the recommendations you look that would try to deal with the question of how and where young people get their ideas. the other thing, i wanted to pick up on what was just said with the electronic database did you look at the question of
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statewide portability as a way to limit the election day problems? >> on the first part of the question, i think the general modification will go a long way to helping out voters. you also have to look at the modification. he argues part of the reason why you see much moberg younger person turnout is the data is so bad. they are registered to vote but are not really there, they are somewhere else. we also have a very mobile population any way. they use technology. to the extent we can make up process work better, i think that will help. we may never get to the point of quality, but i think that will go a long way. as the portability of data other than the context -- that
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would be addressed to that. one reason people vote is the mobile population. they are moving every year or two. most mobile population in the world. because we've require free registration each time you move, -- re-registration each time you move, the barrier will affect some more than others. if you can make it as easy as possible and merge it with other databases and make sure it is as fluid as possible, the more likely it is those populations will also register. also things that lead to lower turnout that is beyond the scope
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of turnout. >> we do have recommendations in here in regards to the recruitment of whole workers. or jurisdictions that have had the ability to recruit 15 and 17-year-old they are of the age of voters. i have done some research looking to see, are they more likely to register at the point they turn 18 and when they register, do they vote cap coke not only that, but is the frequency of voting more than the counterparts who did not serve as the polls? it is all very positive results. once you get them engaged and understand what the process is, we found that they continue to be current and recurrent voters. >> speaking of the younger voter, it independence --
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independent polling ability where if i am in virginia i can still boast in my home state of michigan or their are too many cyber security concerns to have people beaming their votes over 800 miles on the internet? >> in a poll place where you take the qr code and swiped the driver's license and says michigan 12th district. >> i think we talked a little bit about voting centers him up but not that. the next commission. the next commission. >> just to follow-up on the early voting question, getting into details. is it there to save the commission is encouraging states that did not provide any course of absentee voting? >> we will not provide -- we are
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urging states to absolutely consider and adopt those. >> and may not be no excuse. and maybe in person. >> it could be male. >> we have mentioned a little bit about the locations they have expanded early voting options to not reduce polling places to dramatically on election day. we also include administrative procedures that do vote by mail. making sure they have the ability to track their ballot to using the united states postal code, in addition to the ability to go into a polling place and drop off a ballot. there are a variety of very commonsense approaches for the voter to have power over watching where the ballot is in the system, and for local election administrators to make sure they know you are at the
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close of the deadline to pick up every single eligible ballot at the very last minute and take it back to your office. >> that point stands on its own. the more of the forms divided the better. as ben said, they may arrive at different conclusions for how much or whether this gives the voters as many opportunity to vote on election day as possible. >> at any point did you identify all role that the federal election commission could play in advancing or addressing illegals you sent out, particularly on the eac? >> we did not address the federal
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election commission with the care caution and respect required. i know there are former commissioners and office -- in the audience here. all of them were wonderful commissioners and did a great job. >> in the aftermath of the last residential election, there were certain areas that may be underserved in areas of government and certain populations were impacted more than other populations. is that something you were able to come down to reasons why certain areas have longer lines than others? >> i may not have fully answer the last time around, but in looking at different reasons why
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you might have long lines, there is no question that issues of resources very between jurisdictions can have an impact or a variety that can have an impact. in some cases, multiple factors contribute to the long line problems. we are confident if you take this particular recommendations it will significantly collapse the different experiences that voters have. regardless of whether it is an urban location or rural rotation. we think he will have an equalizing impact in achieving improvement across the class of voters. election administrators we talk to would agree with that. >> you have mentioned several times in your individual different outlooks and i was wondering if individual
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commissioners you had felt limited and had come up with these unanimous bipartisan recommendations. i was wondering if you felt limited as individuals that maybe you would have had stronger recommendations to make that you did not agree on and if that felt limiting or by narrowing the focus you felt you could focus more with better ideas? >> i do not think the focus was narrow. i think there are millions of voters who would have an experience casting a vote would be different and better if these are adapted. i think these if the question you're asking is if i thought about all the voting rights issues in the united states and
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i were entirely in charge of them you would be entertained. what i write a report? no, probably not. because we cannot agree on everything, does not mean looking at an issue in a particular way we have accomplished anything less. we still will be ringing about -- there are five lines long. set aside the provisional ballot that ended up being a huge issue and how that relates to inaccuracies. the whole host of issues we can talk about. that data suggest there are 10 million voters in the united states who waited in line. five of them longer than half an hour.
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we are trying to do something for those voters. trying to do something for disabled voters, military voters. reduce disparity among jurisdictions that you do not have some that are running smoothly and are wealthy and others that are crippled i resources and so forth. so i think we were all really committed to voters here, and i do not think it means that we cannot solve every problem in the elect world process, but the ones that we are defining as issues of federal administration that affect millions of voters we were able to find common ground on. >> i would like to give the president credit for for giving us a lot of issues to address and that's leaving out a couple, we would probably not be able to agree. rather than these differences that can make a change for millions of voters. that was great direction by
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narrowing, the finding in such a way that we got a great report full of a lot of ideas and detailed that will make a big difference. >> i want to say one thing that's not to assume the most controversial are also the most consequential. these recommendations will affect millions tens of millions of voters. you modernize the registration system, if you can crack the code, it will have downstream payoffs. obviously dealing with long lines, we have the data from the last election. getting more information about what is happening in the polling places could have future payoffs so we can give them accurate -- accurate picture of the types of problems going forward, let alone the machine issues that are of real concern. if you weigh the importance of
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an issue not by how much airtime it is getting but how many voters it will be affecting these are the issues that will have a serious impact. >> i apologize for not rating the report front to back to know the answer to this but did you look at emergency planning especially in the wake of the election in virginia? >> we looked at it carefully. in fact, what is already out there does a really good job of highlighting that issue. it is all contained in the appendix. the national association of secretaries of state has a particularly good program. we were impressed by what others had done before and did not need to add to that. >> one thing that is in the body of the report is that they will
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start specifying what the contingency plans are so that the ball will just drop and do not have an answer. the same with having someone in charge to make the call to whether an election has to be rescheduled. there is a specific report that would point people to. >> first responders came from all over the country. it inc. the first responders flexibility getting them to vote absentee is a no excuse state. we all thought sandy would go to new jersey whatever, they need help as well. >> that was really critical. many states already have in place where if the issue hits their own state, they have a new
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place on what will happen in their state. in arizona we send people to the east coast. there was a real moment where we talked about not only has to happen if the date of the election is impacted, but infrastructure is in fact did. it is really critical everyone have a contingency plan in place and a plan for each, f, and g as well. >> can you talk about recommendations for military. >> first, we have made great strides with the move asked. there are still challenges. one of them is that if you are a military voter in trying to figure out how to register and vote, going to a state website will often not be unveiling to you. so we go through in detail what
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the states need to do in terms of improving websites to facilitate voting by military and overseas voters. second, if you talk to military and overseas voters, it is clear to them that different states are implementing this in different ways. the federal post card application, which is supposed to be a failsafe, our meaning different things in different states. so you have to get uniformity and that regard to make sure to soldiers are not having different roles applied to them. then, there are other aspects of the recommendation that have a disproportionate value something like online voter registration is obviously better for those further away from the polling place, etc.. all of those are examples of the
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recommendations that we make with respect to military and overseas voters. one thing we have heard is the installation assistance officers are uneven participation at the basis so that you need to integrate this into the intake process for soldiers when they go to basis so that they can register as seamlessly as possible. >> i was wondering if you could speak a little bit about the work you did looking at poll workers. the only thing i have heard is the recruitment of 16 and 17- year-olds. i was wondering watch research went into the aspect of that and specific jurisdiction. >> we had a long list of
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recommendations in reference to the recruitment training retention of poll workers and the for a lot of it to be election commission, which has quick start guide on these very issues. a few of these had to do with recruitment of not only 16 and 17-year-olds sponsorship of polling places. many times groups and organizations, whether it is a business or lions club will do this and will provide the poll workers for you, as well as recruiting within our own states and government. then when we get into the training making sure -- across the country there are some jurisdictions where the first time you worked the polls he received training and never have to do it again. the other jurisdiction is you have to be trained for every election with which you work. there is a frequency, the
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quality, the duration. we have tried to touch on all of those. it is all going to be available in the appendices as well for jurisdictions to look at and improve training and coupled with that, we recommend states take a look at the training being done by the localities in the jurisdiction of the state if they currently do not have anything to do with the training to make sure there is uniformity from one jurisdiction to the next. in a statewide recount, that is where any discrepancies will come to light. it is best to have uniform training practices being implemented. >> if you would like to comment on detail on the report, it will your website have a report where all can send in comments so people can follow up with their
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thoughts about it and experiences. it would seem to be a useful thing. >> there is a place on the website and you can e-mail anyone of us. there is a comments section that is still running. a month ago or maybe longer. >> if your website will be a resource and you have these areas tools, it seems the comment section should continue to comment as they try out the suggestions to see if they work in the real world. >> that is why the tools are hosted at the technology project website. let's be clear about what the tools are and what we think the future is. they need to be tailored to jurisdiction. they are encouraging to send
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identifying information and will see that on the website. >> was there any suggestion to what that would entail or more of a blanket good idea to ask and early voting? >> a good suggestion. understanding voters to not want to be limited to the 12 hours of the initial election day without specifying early voting should include two weekends. there are wide differences of opinion. as a part of the commission report, the main point is you cannot administer elections appropriately by asking them to
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vote on that one day. you need to provide multiple opportunities for voting. there are obviously other forms that could be provided as well. >> one thing we're talked about its universe settings. a highlight is the issue with the postal service and the future of six-day week mail and what that means for voting. we really did not weigh in on what that means other than it is a concern. some states are all vote by mail, some by mail and a level of voting by mail. the rate of which books get lost is really really high. there are lots of concerns about the residual votes where the absentee ballots are higher. something people can think about as we go through the challenge that will impact elections.
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>> you mentioned there is a lack of online resources for military and overseas voters. did you find a lack of online resources for the voting public as a whole, and what kind of recommendations do you have for what state websites can include on the website to make voting more acceptable process? >> we provide a some of that commentary and a field guide. the appendices about how to design and make manageable your local and state election websites. usability expert who has developed these field guides. one is a state voter website. >> you mentioned states that have gone to all mail voting. was there discussion among the
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commissioners and the testimony received in the report about the virtue of each state. retaining is an option. retaining as an option the voting day after the first day as retaining that for specific value of having the opportunity to exercise the one-day. patrick noted about notch reducing the sort -- resources needed for that one day. some of us feel it is very important to have the one-day that going to all mail is a mistake. i was wondering if you discussed that. >> we do not call it the aberration of election day. i wanted to take that first.
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i talked to ben out of it. the second thing is we do not critique. we raise all sorts of issues about the vulnerability from the postal system and what that says about potential problems, but we certainly do not critique all mail ballots in oregon or washington state. we are talking about administering election day properly. your comment was very much looked at by the secretary of state of new hampshire who came to a hearing. no intention of ever supporting early voting because he thought the people of new hampshire gained an enormous amount of all showing up at the same to the polling place. he was quite strong about that. that cuts against the grain of our recommendation.
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we will see what happens over time. our view is much of what we're talking about is not just specific to this administration but what voters are talking about. >> we did have one of our hearings in denver. colorado past a very interesting piece of legislation that does everything. they had so many voters are ready voting by mail. they have moved to the position where everyone can go to any boat center within their county" another ballot there because it is all tied into the central office. they are tied into the centralized database. very interesting and exciting what they are doing in colorado. it will be interesting to see how that plays out. this has mushroomed up in other places around the country. it will be interesting to see what the new paradigm will do.
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>> thank you very much. appreciate your comments. >> i also noticed and wanted to recognize john of the pipe partisan policy center. thank you for coming out today. [applause] >> did i feel prepared? >> yes. first of all, i was not the lack did so it did not make that much difference. i did notice the difference between being the vice president's wife and the president's wife is huge. the vice president's wife and
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say anything. nobody cares. the minute you say one thing as the president twice, you made the news. that is a lesson that i had to learn pretty quickly. >> watch our program on barbara bush on our website or see it saturday on c-span at 7:00 eastern. live monday, the hearing can -- the series continues with hillary clinton. >> this morning, a discussion on the recent spike of violence in iraq and potential government plans to create three new provinces that will contest parts of the country. the speaker on the council of representatives speaks at the brookings institution live at noon eastern on c-span two. this morning, the defense department is an update on reconstruction efforts and afghanistan. we will hear from the commander of joint forces in afghanistan
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live at noon eastern on c-span three. >> i would like to add a personal word with regard to an issue that has been of great concern to all americans over the past year. i refer to the investigations of the so-called watergate affair. as you know, i have provided to the special prosecutor voluntarily a great deal of material. i believe i have provided all the materials he needs to conclude his investigations and to proceed to prosecute the guilty and clear the innocence. i believe the time has come to bring the investigation and other investigations to an end. one year of watergate is enough. >> looking back at five decades of notable state of the union addresses. sunday at 3:00 eastern part of
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at 9:15, changes brought about by hurricane katrina and ♪ >> the house of representatives meets and the briefly -- briefly today. for programming this afternoon if you are interested in finding what is going on across the united states, the u.s. conference of mayors hold its meeting. you will see part of that at 11:15. also, at 2:00 this afternoon the republican national committee has their annual meeting and the focus is of gop rising stars.
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