a clear orientation toward the broad transformation that is occurring in the broader middle east, but we have a lot of worries about specific things we see, including violent extremism. there is a danger in responding to a by day to those urgent security situations, we re- create the paradigm that president obama came into office wanting to dismantle, of a broad-scale war on terrorism, that drives our policy and drives the way we are perceived in the region and drives the way we structure our relationships in the region that is undergoing tremendous change. while there are some real threats, it is important for us to be able to distinguish what are local, what are transnational, what is targeting us, and what is not. i would like to hear other people's views on that. >> i want to come back to the

metamorphosis on al qaeda. we have been come as a result of the arab awakening and what has gone on in the arab world, that al qaeda cutting rebirth. it can exactly at the moment that the obama administration's hollis he against -- policy against al qaeda created its greatest success, the death of bin laden. i agree with everything about the president of of afghanistan. the administration is unable to make the case to the american people, which is the reason we need 10,000 american troops in afghanistan is to continue to drone war in pakistan. that is the vital national security interests of the united states. we do not want to see al qaeda rebuild like we saw al qaeda rebuild in ai iraq. the drones are not the answer to al qaeda, that they are surely a

very good weapon to have in your hand when you deal with al qaeda. my concern is if the united states gives up that weapon in afghanistan by having no bases for operation after 2014, we will see al qaeda rebuild and regenerate as fast as we saw it regenerate in iraq. >> is there an alternative here? let's say we lose the main base in afghanistan. is there an alternative, either from ship or elsewhere in the region, given the extended reach now i've drones, that you would not necessarily need to launch them from afghanistan? >> short answer, no. the technology does not change. you can launch operations over the northern part of pakistan operates, i, i

don't think so. if you launch them from the arabian sea, they are likely as to be unsuccessful as desert i was in watching it. the irony here is it is a covert operation. a covert operation that everybody talks about, and you can go to the excited to see every attack laid out, but the administration has its hands tied, but it does not come back in public and say that real reason we want 10,000 guys is to afghanis al qaeda in pakistan. >> from brookings. since we have our middle east and asian experts here, i would like to ask the following question relating to our geopolitical posture in the gulf and elsewhere. do you feel the states, the oil- producing states in the gulf,

have dealt with what is implied by the fact that increasingly the overwhelming demand for oil and gas in the gulf is going to be in asia and not in europe? and about how that is going to change their strategic posture with the asian nations that will be the bulk of their revenues? and likewise for the asian experts, do you think south korea, japan, china, india, and others have come to terms that as they become more import dependent from the gulf that they have to assume a strategic posture to protect the ceilings -- the sea lanes and assets and that they cannot count on americans to do it, and i would add this is what i do not necessarily agree with that kind of continuation of american policy in the region because our strategic interests are going to lie elsewhere. off brieflyck it

because i just came back from the gulf. hear from a chance to folks about this directly. i will say couple things. disputes, some of the the talks with iran, and so on that bruce was talking about in the u.s.-saudi relationship, there is an underlying anxiety in the gulf of which is about the point you're making, charlie. interests in our region where we are used to having you as the security guarantor in an area where you do not need our energy anymore? and the rest of the world is free-writing on the free investment in gulf security. that underlying anxiety is coming from their recognition of this broad shift. their recognition in their most honest moments that they do not

actually have a mechanism for maintaining regional order themselves without an external great power. they have never done it. they do not have it amongst themselves. we have tried in various ways to help build up that capacity, but it is nowhere near there yet. i think they acknowledge also , thefrom their perspective chinese, the indians, or other rising powers are at least a couple decades away from having the capability to take on any kind of role like that, even if they are interested in doing so. they feel deep-seated anxiety that may be the u.s. is turning away and there is no alternative. now, my own view is i do not think we are turning away. in many ways because of the crises in the region, but also because of our interests, we are nailed to the ground in the middle east right now. the broader trend you are describing is one that i think is going to continue to raise

questions in these relationships and disputes in the years to come. >> i want to hear from susanna on this. one of the concerns you here in the region is if there is a deal with the iranians then air ron -- iran is free to run off and become its own agent in the region. >> first to the gulf state posture, the gulf states are perennially insecure. that refix their capacity, but also the world you that is ingrained from centuries of relationships with outside greater powers, and so i think this sort of discourse -- and issue, we have never been more dependent on gulf oil and most of our economic partners. we have had a major security

commitment. we made our investment in gulf security when a time when europe was more dependent on oil exports and we were. it is integral to the american vision of itself as a superpower to maintain an investment in the free and reasonable reliable flow of energy from the major producers of energy around the world. i think that will endure as long as we maintain our commitment to being the world's superpower. iran, the iran to go sheesh and heightened these issues in the gulf states, but there is no outcome to the new two-tier -- to the nuclear divisions that will lead to iran's revival as a regional economic power, because the themselvesotiations are wholly unlikely, it is impossible to conceive of any scenario under which a nuclear

negotiation leads to the lifting of a comprehensive u.s. embargo on iran, which is the major hit on investment, particularly to the energy and technology sectors. attack iran has not been able to access its ong is why iran is a net importer of gas, despite having some of the largest reserves in the world and despite the one of the early adapters to trans regional gas trade in the 1960's and 1970's. , theave a situation constraints that iran are under today, will remain in the future despite some prospect there may be some final deal on the nuclear issue. >> let me offer a few thoughts on the question. it seems to me in varying ways all the states are mindful of how the ground is shifting.

diminishedry fact of u.s. dependence raises questions about whether the united states over the longer haul, despite its interests in having that sense of there being a global order and the state that the u.s. has, that over time we would see some kind of diminution of american involvement or that others would have to in some measure pickup the slack. the problem is i do not think among those who are most aware about their energy security, and i would put china very high on the list, recognize that it is going to be a very long-term process before they can really the ready to take on this role. if we look in that longer-term sense that has been alluded to, i think that is very likely where we are headed. the chinese are now making a commitment to a carrier program. is not going to be massive, but

any carrier program and tales huge commitments of money and the ability to conceptualize a and ofsense of strategy involvement that not only chinese interests, the interests of others would be involved as well. heather sides are looking for alternatives that are land based . you see this in northeast asia, the efforts of russians to find a means by which japan, but with korea, and china, they can be a .uch more substantial if i were sitting in the shoes would beonal leader, i looking for as many alternatives as i could, but i would not be promising my policy on the expectation that over the longer run united states will be repaired or able to do this on its own. >> we have time for one quick question. the lady right there.

microphone is coming to you. >> thank you for giving me the opportunity. nightmare avoid the scenario in ukraine, and many say that the u.s. response has been negligent or minimal. what should this administration do? thank you. >> the first point that has to be understood is this crisis should be resolved by the ukrainians in ukraine. the thing united states and isope should be doing now trying to apply levers of authorities. . governmente u.s said that pieces of those that have been connected with -- have been referred, but also target some of the visa sanctions to say we are trying

to encourage the government to get into a good-faith negotiation that includes compromise to address some of the opposition's concerns. you have seen the president of ukraine say several times he has prepared a dialogue. he did not meet until yesterday. not much came out of that. even as we speak again, so the question is are there ways the west can crank up pressure, and by targeting with visa and financial sanctions, the inner circle around the president so people can say, look, boss, i want to be able to travel in europe, i had money in the bank in london, and unless you do things, we will lose that axis. -- access. it gets a lot of press play in ukraine. it will be important that the europeans come along because the europeans will have never cheered that the united states does not, and it does not appear that the europeans have been

able to come up with a united stance on this question. >> i want to thank all of you for coming. i want to thank our panel were there shall and papers, which if you have not had a chance to being distributed yesterday and today. you can take home with you. i look forward to seeing at the end of the year how many of these turned out. and reminding you all -- >> right. >> thanks again. thank you all. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] [captioning performed by national captioning institute]

>> mike huckabee spoke to the republican national committee winter meeting today. you can see his are marked in their entirety in about a half an hour at six: 45 eastern on c- span. part of his speech was about how the parties view women's issues. longerime republicans no accept listening to the democrats talk about a war on women. the republicans do not have a war on women. they have a war for women. for them to be empowered to be something other than victims of their gender. women i know are outraged that democrats think of women are nothing more than helpless and hopeless creatures whose only

goal in life is to have the government provide for them risk control medication. women i know are smart, educated, intelligent, capable of doing anything that anyone else could do. our party stands for the recognition of the equality of women and the capacity of women. that is not a war on them. it is a war for them. and if the democrats want to insult the women of america by making them believe that they are helpless without uncle sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for worse control because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of the government, then so be it, let us take that discussion all across america because women are far more than the democrats have played them to be and women across america need to stand up and say enough of that nonsense. and i think it is time we lead that discussion. these remarks in their entirety at about a half an hour. after his speech, earlier today

in washington, a reporter asked jay carney to respond. not that long ago at the rnc winter meeting in washington, mike huckabee said the democrats'message to women is that they are helpless without uncle sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control because they cannot control their libido or their reproductive system without the help of government. is that the president's message? >> i do not know. it, soundsd offensive to me and women. see myself who has a message for the world, but i see myself as a person try to understand my situation. wasbook came to me when i giving some lectures at the u.s. air force academy in colorado

springs. [indiscernible] forceral young air officer had lots of chats with me. he told me that he was a liberal. he wanted to correct in my mind that i had caught in the media that the u.s. air force academy was very right wing and full of strange radical fundamentalists. he came to me -- he is a liberal. he told me he was in a phase of integration. when people come to this country, they should learn the language. i do think he was speaking agree. yes, i everybody should learn the language. >> the settlement of the united

states from a hispanic perspective, saturday at 10:00 eastern and sunday at 9:00 eastern. and then you have time to weigh "the liberty amendment's." >> shinzo abe spoke at the opening of the world economic yesterday.itzerland he spoke about his country's economic growth and the role of women in japan. this is just over 20 minutes.

>> thank you for your kind introduction. mr. president, it is an honor to speak after you. not know who coined it, but they called mike economic -- m6yy economic policies abenomics. i hesitate calling it by mike own name, but let me use it. the first is a bold monetary policy. the second is about principle, flexible policy. and the third, private investment.

economy is just about to break free from chronic deflation. wages were increased, higher wages, long overdue, will lead to greater -- alsoiscal situation has made steady improvement. now getting on track conservation.s pundits used to say that japan [indiscernible] said that for a country as mature as japan, growth would be impossible. made toguments were

sound almost legitimate. you cannot see what japan's before is like took office as prime minister. voices now? any -- our growth rate has changed dramatically from negative growth to positive. the olympics time, will come to tokyo. people now are more vibrant and upbeat. news not twilight, but a dawn. breaking over japan. may i tell you, ladies and yearemen, that late last

we decided to go on major reforms. i have broken through the notion that certain reforms could never be carried out. we will completely liberalize market byectricity the time the olympians compete in tokyo in 2020. japan's electricity market will also be completely competitive for both our generation and retail, with power generation split off from power transmission. long feltpeople have that such a thing is just impossible. carell also foster medical

as an industry. japan is on the leading edge in regenerative medicine. we will make it possible to in private sector countries. in japan, people have long said that such a thing is just impossible. away with adoing production system. this system has been in place for more than 40 years. companies will be able to engage in farming without carriers and the growth of crops. artificialithout control of supply and demand.

in japan, people have long said that such a thing is just impossible. autumn we actually thesed to make all changes in addition. yesterday morning i gave additional instructions to reform the japanese system, because we also need large-scale health care companies in the companies, much like the mayo clinic. i have maintained that i willing -- to act like a drill bit to go through the solid rock of vested interests.

will be deregulation set in motion. the significant areas on my own watch, we will cut through red tape. years over the next two no vested interest in will remain immune from my drill. join [indiscernible] will become a thing of the past. the sky will be the limit. qualitysoon see high housing and building complexes -- zero-o-in missions

in missions towers built one after another. the transpacific ship will remain a central pillar of mike economic policies. eu will push ahead a japan- economic agreement. japanwill surely make the 's economy even more deeply -- into global -- of trade and investment. companies and people from abroad japan among the most business-friendly places in the .orld management will also change a great deal. japan's government patient investment fund now owes about

$1.2 trillion. we will push ahead with forward --king reforms, including the gpis will contribute to investments leading to growth. make the tax system for companies, internationally competitive. internationally competitive. reduce the corporate tax rate by 2.4% this year. we will also encourage companies the -- they have

gathered for capital investment. investment in workers' salaries. to do this we will put tax incentives into place in a way completely different from before. bar year, we will set the for reform on corporate tax. we will reform the labor market to type workers to old industries. new industries require an inventive and creative human resources. we will redirect our subsidies meaningful without -- in old industries can move to new industries. that require good human

resources. japan is becoming a super [indiscernible] society, even as a member even as the number is falling. you might find yourself asking in such a country whether you find those innovative and . eative human resources -- a huffington once said if we remember we're brothers and sisters, the farm would have survived. japan's corporate culture is still wonderful pinstripes and button-downs after all. -- emale a force in japan

japan must become a place where women shine. leading ake 30%, positions to be occupied by women. no order to have large number of women become leading players in the market. will need a diverse environment, support from foreign workers will also be had the and care from the like. japan's g.d.p. could grow by 16%

more if women participated in labor as much as men. that is what hillary clinton told me. was encouraged. the need is major impetus for change in the corporate world. forward changes to the corporate law to the upcoming parliamentary session. under these changes, external directors will increase. we will also draw up an accord. it will make it easier for

institutional investors to have a greater role in corporate governance. all of these combined, i'm sure, direct uble or reward . vestment by 2020 all of this could reboot the entire country, japan's economic landscape would change ramatically. on march 11, 25011, the northeastern part of japan was hit by the triple disaster of nuclear e, tsunami and power plant preview. three years have passed.

the last compassion we were given from the world cut us deeply. the recovery is is far from ver. and the one most responsible for is the re survivors, it very survivor who help each other with stiff upper lips trying to overcome so many hardships. they're stripped of perseverance and moved people all over the world. it is with that that spirit that japan is set to and

determination to contribute even more productively towards peace. in cambodia, japan built for mothers and newborn babies helped to reduce the country's infant mortality rate. after the beans typhoon relief effort by japan's self-defense forces was movingly eckoned. still on high alert against piracy, protecting ships from round the world. no single nation can preserve

peace by itself. none of us alone can solve the challenges we face without elping each other. and new japan is now waving a banner for active contribution o peace. i wupt you to know you can count on us. asia has become a growth center for the world. japan is surrounded by neighbors with unlimited possibilities such as china, is south korea, the asian nations, india and russia. d across the pacific partner

countries. in this region, which will be the engine driving the world economy towards. i am always contemplating just how we can achieve peace and prosperity and make them erlasting the foundation for prosperities comes down to freedom of movement for people and goods. in seener space, freedom of movement must remain secure. the only way to fully keep these indispensable public goods, faith in people, is to

rigorously maintain the rule of law. it's for that purpose that ,undamental values like freedom civil rights and democrat issy must be assured. if peace and stability was shaken in asia, the knock-on effect for the entire growth would be enormous. dividend growth in asia must not be wasted on military expansion. to invest in the

nation that will further boost growth in the region. trust, not tension, is crucial for peace and prosperity in asia nd in the rest of the world. with n only be achieved full dialogue and not through orce or caution. now, in order to turn asia into and for trust and order not force and coercion, i would like in conclusion to make an world, weasia and the ust, ladies and gentlemen,

retrain military expansion in asia which could others go unchecked. military budget should be made completely transparent and there should be public disclosure form that can be verified. we should create a mechanism for management as we're a communication internal between our armed forces. we must lay down rules that promote based on the international law of the fee. only then i believe can we achieve growth and prosperity in asia. where all of us can realize a great potential.

japan has sworn an oath never again to wage a war. we have never stopped and we will continue to be wishing for he world to be at peace. it is my fervent hope that throughout economics we can create a vibrant japan. that can bring about peace and prosperity in the region and in the world. thank you very much. >> millions of egyptians came down to the streets in nationwide protest. >> this uprising defies any definitions. >> about 20 minutes after landing, driving towards the square, the military has come down to the streets so i'm

stopped at one of the checkpoints and they search the car and in it finds my previous film called "egypt we are watching you" which is not a good title to find by military intelligence as the country is exploding. they said come with us. we just want to talk with you for a while and i went to a place -- i still don't know where the location was and i was taken by people in plain clothes. so at the time you don't know who's interrogating you and i realize a certain point this is the d.v.d. i have in the car and i need to get rid of it. i made my way to the car, excused myself to the bathroom, tried to destroy the d.v.d. by breaking it apart. and i don't know if you ever tried to break apart a d.v.d. but they're quite hard. and so i shoved it down the drain, went back to the interrogation room feeling confident that i had gotten rid of evidence that could possibly keep me there for a lot longer than i wanted to be. and about five minutes later the

guy cleaning the bathroom comes in with a piece of the d.v.d. in his hand. >> more with jehane, director of the academy award documentary "the square" sunday night at 8:00 on c-span's "q&a." c-span launched its first c-span school bus in 1993 visiting hundreds of schools and communities nationwide and raising awareness on how c-span covers politics and government with its public affairs programming. today 20 years later c-span bus continues on the road on the campaign trail and visiting book festivals, history events, education conferences and schools. look for us on the road and online on our website, w-span.org and follow us on twitter, all brought to you by our cable and satellite provider. and students will get their chance to visit the c-span bus and join us mornings live on "washington journal" as we hit the road for the big 12

conference tour. >> former arkansas governor and 2008 presidential candidate mike huckabee spoke at the annual meeting, i went winter meeting of the republican national committee. it's about half an hour. >> thank you very much. when he was giving the introduction and talking about all of the things i was doing, i was getting nervous and one of these days will he find something he's good at. an honor to be here and thanks to all of you for braving the weather. he was telling about the musician part of me. last night i was in anaheim,

california, playing on stage with the new york yankees, bernie williams who is an amazing guitar player and skunk baxter from the doobie brothers. and i wanted to bring them with me. i would have had to play with them and headed right back there as soon as i finished speaking today. i have to be back in california this afternoon and then tomorrow i will be there with more meetings and organization that provides musical instruments for children and i will take the red eye from california to new york tomorrow night to do my show at fox. funeral services will be held onday. and in the course of this i lost my iphone. don't know if that happened to you but it's a horrible thing. i got it back. i called the n.s.a., they knew exactly where it was.

and they put all of my e-mails back in. and i can't begin my comments today about saying heartfelt word to deep thanks to chairman previous who showed an extraordinary level of conviction and courage that so much of us appreciate and that is would have been easy for him to go ahead with a meeting yesterday but in a show of true solidarity with so many people in our party whoar passionate about the sanctity of every human life. the chairman did a marvelous thing in postponing the events so people could participate. thank you. i think it's time republicans no longer accept listening to the

democrats talk about a war on women. the fact is is the republicans don't have a war on women, they have a war for women. for them to be empowered to be something other than victims of their gender. women i know are outraged that the democrats think that women are nothing more than helpless and hopeless creatures whose only goal in life is is have a government provide for them birth control medication. women i know are smart, educated, intelligent, capable of doing anything that anyone else can do. our party stands for the recognition of the equality of women and capacity of women. that's not a war on them. it's a war for them. and if the democrats want to insult the women of america by making them believe that they are helpless without uncle sugar coming in and providing for them a prescription each month for birth control because they cannot control their libido or

reproductive system without the help of the golvet, so be it, let us take that discussion across america because women are far more than the democrats have played them to be and women across america need to stand up and say enough of that nonsense. i think it's time we lead that discussion. [applause] i will be in new york on saturday for a while. as you know i host tail vision show that is on the fox news channel and we tape it in new york. people ask me all the time, are you going to move to new york? i always tell them, even before the governor of new york decided he doesn't like my kind up there -- but even before i said, not moving to new york unless they let me duck hunt in central park. so don't think i will be going. i was shocked, andrew cuomo, the governor of new york says that people who are as he calls us

extreme if we believe that every life has value and worth that we are extreme if we think we should be able to protect ourselves and not have to hopelessly stand by and hope that the police can arrive before whatever predator breaks down our door has decided to have his way in our 0 lives and in our homes. and he made it very clear, he said, these kind of people are not welcome in new york. i'm delighted to hear that and i hope he will exempt me from all of the taxes i have to pay to his fine state because every time i do a show in new york, they decide it's worthy of them taking a significant piece of it. so governor, if you don't mind since you really don't want me there, i'm sure none of my money would be welcome in new york ither. well, don't know if you know

this or not, but we're coming up very soon in just a couple of weeks to the 50th anniversary of an extraordinary american moment and it has nothing to do with politics. it has to do with the beatles arriving in the u.s. and being on the ed sullivan show. i want to tell thank you little story because there was an untold story of the beatles that you might be hearing about. it was the story of the unknown fifth beatle. some of you saying there were only four beatles. it's not intended to be that way. supposed to be a fifth one. and the fifth beatle never really got the attention that was deserved. but for those of you who are as ld as i am, which means old as dirt, you can understand the beatles coming to america and being on "the ed is sullivan show" launched nothing short of a culture revolution. but a lot of people don't understand why it was a similar

moment in the history of america and for that matter the history of the world. the country had just gone through a very painful time of mourning the death of a president who had been assassinated. there was an extraordinary amount of dispair, heartbreak, disappointment and people forget we were still grieving as a nation because we couldn't believe it was possible for our own president to be assassinated in the streets of one of our cities. and the anxiety of that coupled with the looming beginnings of war and conflict in southeast asia left americans with a real sense of despair. and pessimism. when the beatles came, it was as one person said, so many more people rather had follow the beatles than baptists because the beatles looked like they were going somewhere and baptists looked like they were

sorry they had been. [laughter] but there was a young man who saw the beatles on ed sullivan completely taken by what he saw and so very much said i would like to be the fifth beatle. now there was one problem, he didn't know how to play the guitar. so he began to work towards having a guitar. and for three jeers he did everything possible he could to get a guitar and couldn't get one because he couldn't afford it. after three years this young man's parents were tired of hearing him complain how he wanted an electric guitar so they ordered an electric guitar from the jcpenney mail order catalog and presented it to him for christmas. he didn't know it at the time

but they couldn't really afford it. they spent $99 on the guitar and little amplifier that came with it. and he had no idea how much money that represented to them but it took them a year to pay for it. they paid a little bit each month for a year until they got it all paid off. but that really didn't matter to he knew hean because would be the fifth beatle. he learned to play and would practice. pretty much until his fingers virtually bled and he got where he was good enough to be in a band, not a very good band but band. and continued to play thinking the day will come when the beatles will say, you are the fifth beatle. well, let me just fast forward and tell you that never appened. fifth beatle movement never did

come to be. he was never discovered to be that great of a guitar player. in fact never discovered to be that great of an anything but he stands before you today because i was that 11-year-old kid who and wanted so badly to be the fifth beatle. can i tell you what happened in 1963? i was 8 the first time i saw them. the beatles brought something to america more than music. they brought hope. know it may sound is sacrireligious to say the beatles brought hope but we were brought by a nation that had been bruised and the energy, excitement, difference that they brought, brought hope which our country desperately needed and their music was pretty good. today we are in a time when we need more than we ever needed in

merica before. sense of home and optimism. a lot of people were discouraged and we can tell you why. 92 million americans are not even in the job market anymore. given up. if anyone says the unemployment rate dropped to 6.7%, only because another 100,000 people or so have decided there's no point in even applying for a job because there aren't any. the highest record of americans that have taken themselves out of a job market in the history of our country, the president wants to talk about income and equality. i think we should have the debate. i heard republicans say let's don't go there. no, let's do go there. let's talk about the fact that the party that has preached poverty and how to fix it has led this country to spend 20.7

trillion in current dollars since the year 1964 when we launched the war on poverty. today more people are impoverished than when we started the war on poverty. the war on poverty sent going very well. and -- isn't going very well. and the reason it isn't is all due respect to the sincere notion of getting rid of poverty, you cannot get rid of poverty until you bring to people a sense of hope and optimism and that optimism can't be artificial, it has to be real. real hope and real optimism comes when people have the prospect of getting an education, getting a job and going beyond a life that the government wants them to live. our party is not afraid to talk about improving the income quality of people. we just want to make sure we empower people to dream their dreams and live them. and not be subjected to saying well you're going to have to live in this neighborhood because this is the house the government wants you to have.

and this is the school, failing school that your child has 0 to go to. nd you have no choice. we should be the party that unapologetically says there are way too many people who are struggling and who are poor. one of the ways we need to address it is to build a country whose economy is based on the notion if you are willing to work and work hard, you can get ahead. and it's not the government's boot that will be in your face every time you try to get your head out of the hole. there are many many in this room who understand what i'm talking about today. there was no silver spoon in my mouth. i grew up in a home like so many of you with parents and grandparents who never had a formal education. i'm the first male in my entire

family linage who even graduated from high school, much less went to college. butdy have hope. and it wasn't all based on the beatles. it was based on the notion that i believed america was the kind of place where i started didn't mean that's where i had to stop. it was something else going for me, something that kept me just barely above the poverty line and sometimes not quite the stable home. ari fleischer wrote a wonderful article in "the wall street journal" this past week and points out something validated by the heritage foundation and many others if we want to deal with poverty, the most important solution is stable families, marriage. if two parents are married -- if two parents are married, remain married, there's only a

7.5% likelihood that family will be in poverty. if the child is in the family of a single mom, there's a 34 likelihood that child will be in poverty. out of wedlock births among whites are 29%. among hispanics, 52%, among african-americans, 2%. no less than liberal daniel patrick moynihan in 1964 when he was young lawyer at the u.s. department of labor at the unwed birth rate was in the single digits said god help fuss this ever goes to double digits because it will create a level of poverty that we cannot ossibly sustain. and our tax policies or education policies that discourage marriage in the family. we ought to be creating policies -- incourage the family to

encourage the basic institution of marriage and makes it easy for people to remain involved in the lives of their family and of their children. >> we need to a more paris. most republicans understand that we would much rather a children be raised by them other than a father than being raised by uncle sam. we cannot afford to have generations of children who are under the tutelage and care of government, when what they need are parents who are empowered to make the strong decisions for them as to where they will get their education, holding those educational institutions , and having the option put them somewhere else if the school fails those children. [applause] when we do not have those

childrenwe leave those in a world of hurt. begin tohy we have to come up with fiscal sanity, which we do not have. think about this. in 1913, the entire tax code of the united states was 100 pages. 74,000 pages. that is before obamacare. with obamacare it is probably another hundred thousand pages. do not worry. nancy pelosi said we will know what is in it after we passed it. we passed it. we still do not know what is in it. obviously the people who voted on it, not one republican, the people who voted on it and pushed it on us, they do not know what is in a there. atneed to remind them

election time that it was not the republicans who wasted this massive monstrosity on the people of america. it was harry reid, nancy pelosi, barack obama. since there were any for public and fingerprints putting in place, give the republicans opportunity to put something fingerprints on something that will empower families and doctors, empower nurses, and no longer shackle us to a health care system that is unaffordable because the affordable care act has proven to be anything but. that is why it is important. that we do not take no for an answer. i think about the $431 billion in last year complying with the tax code. it did produce a thing except paper. and some accounting bills. $431 billion last her was the

cost that it took for americans to comply with the tax code. aknow not everyone here is strong proponent as i am of the fair tax. it would limit -- it would tax or consumption. i realize it is a hard sell. it is a long slog. i believe that we need a fundamental change. we do not need to tweak the tax code. we need to fundamentally undo the mess that has been created and start over with something that will help build an economy. you cannot build an economy as long as you're punishing productivity and rewarding reckless irresponsibility. it makes no sense at all. [applause] i have often said i have learned a lot by raising my children. left, they gotll college educations and went off on their own, got jobs. it was a wonderful thing.

the two greatest days in the parents live. the day the guy is born, the day they get out of college and off your payroll. it is a wonderful day. [laughter] something happened in our household as our kids moved away and got off on their own. we had always had dogs. , aended up not with one dog second dog that we ended up with , a third dog. three kids, three dogs. the kids to this day swear that we replaced them with the dogs. they are pretty upset about it. complained a lot. , we think you're placed us with the dogs. we think you love those dogs more than you loved us. them, the dogsd behaved better than you guys ever dead. [laughter] -- ever did. [laughter] i did learn something from

raising dogs. if there is a behavior that you want more of, reward the behavior. if there is a behavior that you want less of, consequence the behavior. you get less of it. yet the consequence it a lot as a child. that is how you change behavior. ?hat we do in our culture we create an entire might cover a policy that says if you are productive we will punish you. if you work and earn something, we will tax it. if you save it we will tax it. if you invest it, we will tax it. it, then later sell it, and you make a profit, we will tax that. if you have done well and you have saved through your life, and give something left because you didn't go blow it all while you were here, even when you die we will tax that. aspect of productivity in

this country, we decide we're going to tax. that is when the government decides that what they do with our money is more valuable than what we do with our money. the message we need to send them out -- ascend to working people across america, those full by the democrats that higher taxes is a wonderful thing to see, is to tell them that when the government taxes you, that is the way of saying that they do not value the work that you do. they are doing with your money. not what you did to get it. i know people that come home every day from work bone tired, exhausted. they lift heavy things. they carry loads. their muscles hurt. wanted toment, but tax them more, is saying what you do isn't very important. what we do as a government is so important that we are willing to take more of what you do and do with it what we think is more valuable.

when is america going to say government, you do not have much to show for what you have done. you have spent money you didn't have. you bothered money that you couldn't afford to pay back. we can never pay back what they borrowed. never pay back what they have spent. a be the people who worked hard and earned the money ought to keep more of it. that is the republican message. it is on a message i am ashamed of. i do not think is a message to any republican ought to be ashamed of. it is a message we should take to every working person in this country. i am tired of the democrats are out there for the little guy. the democrats of cap their feet on top of the little guy, keeping him the little guy. i want and to have the opportunity to be a big guy. [applause] he can't the government on his throat. obamacare is going to be the issue of the selection a matter if the president wanted to be or not. it should be.

i cannot think of a better opportunity than today governorships to increase their numbers in the house, and to take the senate and finally make harry reid go sit in the back of the room and went to mitch mcconnell tells him what bills he can talk about and which ones he can't. that would be a wonderful turn in this country. [applause] thing that would keep us from seeing that happen is that we would decide we would , them heght each other had to fight for the people of this country deserve a different and better kind of government and barack obama, harry reid, nancy pelosi. understand, i have differences with other republicans. i do not see everything i to i would probably everyone in this room. some of you do not see everything i to eye with me. i get that. we are part of the same family.

when i think about everyone in this room and he goes and votes in republican primary, if there is some differences, they are minute compared to the differences that i have with those on the other side of the aisle. after all, there are no republicans who voted to implement obamacare. i don't have any republicans who are advocating we jack up the federal income tax. i don't know of any. i don't know any republicans who think that we ought to be a weaker nation and systematically destroy the strength of our military. i do not know of any republicans who think that we ought to unilaterally disarm not only ourselves but our friends and that we ought to go and ask friendly nations like israel to stop building that rims and don't have the guts to tell iran to stop building bombs. i know of no republicans do take that position. not one.

[applause] whatever differences we have, compared to the differences that we have with the other party, they are small. that is why i have asked republicans to stop using the .erm rino let's stop calling each other somehow less republican than someone else. be for the person you are for. sometimes inking our attempt to fight for some level of artificial purity, i want as, did they vote on a particular standard what it means to be a republican? have you done that this week question mark i haven't seen in the papers. i am waiting. let us know if that happens this week. representatives.

each of our states reelect you. you come and represent us as a party. i don't member the rnc has said here is what one must believe to the nth to be a real republican. .nyone not here is a rino if there is going to be an organization can set that standard, it is you. you are the body of policymaking for the party on the national level. maybe you should do that. maybe you shouldn't. i would certainly ask this. realitywould accept the that if you are with me, 90%-70% of the time, you are still 70% closer to me than i am to nancy pelosi and harry reid and barack obama. i will take you any day, any time. [applause]

this coming monday, i'm going to ceremony atrkable auschwitz in poland. it will be the 60th anniversary of the liberation. the majority of israeli -- is going to fly to auschwitz accompanied by a holocaust survivor. many will be called -- many will be going back for the first time since they were children. it is going to be a powerful day , i am sure. as i think about it and anticipate what the day is going to be like, i realize the horror of what happened in that place where 1.1 million people were brutally and savagely murdered, it all started when people were

devalued. when people were deemed less than someone else. when people were deemed that they were not worth as much. maybe because they were old, work.couldn't sometimes, just because they were jewish. we look back on that time in history and we think, how could educated among thoughtful people , university trained, how could a nation with all of its level of itsvast population, with higher education and replaced with you do something so heinous? you realize, the only way you could end up there is that when you start that some people just

aren't as valuable as you are, believer, the one thing that i have to consular use myself is that none of are better than another. no one is less than any of us. if i except that after the great human family. surely i will be able to value the life of those who voluntarily join me in a party that i joined when i was a teenager. i will not -- i am not an independent. i'm not a libertarian. i liked some things libertarians believe. i like the spunk of the independence. i don't think the democrats are even wrong all of the time. most the time, i think they are wrong. [laughter] not all of the time.

by choice, i'm a republican. proudly. gladly. and hopefully, responsibly. value in every human being on this earth, i sure as heck not going to somehow devalue the people in the political organization that i have voluntarily decided to affix myself to, be an active part of, and be a part of this i was a teenager. that is why i asked us to fight the real battle. the real battle in this country is joblessness. it is despair. .he lack of hope it is the weakness our nation will have if we don't have strong leaders who recognize that we are exceptional, and that what god breathed into us,

the life of liberty, he gave us a gift for which we must be good stewards. if we can join in that, we don't have time to fight each other. we have a bigger battle to fight and to win. thank you very much. [applause] >> more from the republican national committee winner -- winter meeting tomorrow. the theme is improving data collection, social media, and reach out to diverse communities. they will hear from rates previous -- grants previous -- reince prebus.

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veteran benefits. it is live every day. from this morning, a conversation on the future of the republican party. us now, thank you for joining us. what should be the topic going forward? guest: winning the senate and winning the presidency. ideas,they did they some but the ideas can be developed in congress by some governors. >> what do you do about the party itself and the ideas he talked about? >> one important thing is the candidates. .eople can talk about democracy people are voting for x and y. republicans have a lot of attractive candidates this year.

some of them are unopposed in primaries. it will be the recumbent democrat. others are roman -- running with two or three candidates. young people, women, that, a bushe different from the and mccain and romney. i voted for the mall, but i think we will see one of the big is that began to happen and will really now happen in 2014 is a generational change in the republican party. >> expand on that. nebraska will stay a republican seat. -- senator, cap members cabinet members, very intelligent and conservative. osborne, who served in the military, state treasury, i

think he is 39. whichever one wins, we will have a 40-year-old verylican senator interested in ideas and an expert on health care and how to replace obamacare. some of these other states, they are attractive young candidates. running in a swing district in and decided not to run. likely to the republican. i think she is 29. she will be 30 by election day, so she will be illegal. 30 is the senate. the house is younger, 25. in any case, she could be there. i really think they are interesting republican candidates running. races,ome of these philosophies come out. look at the senate rate -- race.

james interested in the position and already getting some heat. what does it say about the internal politics amongst conservatives and republicans? >> a lot of fighting and it will occasionally result in -- sometimes the candidate does not do well when he is really on the general election stage. i would preferred to have competitive primaries with two or three. and energy inh the party. in the old days -- this is still them, theyt a lot of hate the idea of the primary. let's clear the field. a lot of primary fights produce very good candidates and good senators and governors. marco rubio upset in the primary in of florida. energy of people

coming into the races and thinking they have a chance. a certain amount of wailing and crying and whining, i have the opposite point of view. you lose once or twice, you have like, >>you do not crystal joining us to talk about politics. you can ask him questions. democrats -- during the course of the morning, we will hear from students asking some questions. they are from texas christian

university asking about issues. we will meet them as the morning goes on. those callsll take in just a moment, the e-mails in twitter as well. a quick headline as we go to calls. in the washington times this morning, it deals on larger issues with governor christie and governor mcdonnell. headline says in a few short years, mighty republicans have fallen, specifically about chris christie. according to mr. mcdonald in virginia, in terms of the presidential bid, he said mr. christie may have some life in him. on what you have seen play out especially on large scale politics. ofpolitics is a zigzag kind business. it is a big mistake to project the future from last year.

andle's reputations statuses rise and fall quickly. heginia, i voted for him and was a good governor. a terrible story. it is not just a story. a federal indictment. a good reminder all these people confidently saying here early 2014 what the political sit should -- situation will be, i have my hunch, but it is a mistake. things can change so quickly. knows. we will have to see what happens. the main thing with scandals is that facts matter. if you are indicted, that is one thing. is nothingt there really done that was illegal and it is not clear he really knew about it, that is something that may be a serious problem but

maybe not so serious. 20 years ago, the chief of staff, i remember meetings where a senior bush administration -- one day he was not didn't -- i, he guy,ber cuomo is a serious governor of new york and an eloquent speaker, and now we have the governor of arkansas with personal issues and possible scandals and so forth i remember being everyone -- everyone being relieved with clinton. he eat us handily and got himself elected and survived impeachment.

sometimes these are damaging. the main thing about chris christie, from a national point of view is, the new york republican donor class, the givers to the party and the candidates, they thought chris christie was the front runner. i remember saying to people, he is a front rubber -- runner. is he necessarily going to be scott walker or mike huckabee or rick perry ordered jeb bush or ted cruz? i could go on and on. caucus or new hampshire primary. i do not think that is obvious. he has been a good governor for four years. a lot of people will run and make their case. the media was wants to find a front runner and anoint him.

republicans isor they have a lot of interesting candidates. some of them will outperform. turned out to be an awfully eloquent, impressive guy. there is an awful lot that will happen. it is good to have this kind of debate, a real chance for these guys to get out and prove themselves. and to have guys scrutinize them. that, students from the texas christian university join us. to ask questions. use either group to ensure there. guest.st student is our good morning, go right ahead. >> good morning. was a time of self reflection for both parties, for the democrats.

obamacare, whereas republicans took much of the blame during the government shutdown. there is obamacare inspired by employees that will help candidates. will that be enough to ensure the public is safe in the republican party? >> a good question. two ory visit their three years ago, good panel discussion. i listened to students mostly in the class. have a horn frog on my desk, a mascot. people say, what is that thing? anyway, a party needs to restore his own reputation and that is ultimately done by having a real government agenda. in a mostly done

presidential campaign. for all the unhappiness in the senate and the house, there are a lot of republican governors governing successfully. brand, not is because people think. obamacare is not going anywhere in my opinion. storiedit is a i think thatea will help republicans quite a bit. say,ther thing i will there are a couple of chances for republicans to mess things up over the next several months. one would be with the debt ceiling, coming up in march. it provides an opportunity for republicans to shoot themselves in the foot. they are working hard not to do that. immigration is another thing that would split the republican

party. my proposal for the house republican leadership, tea party types, the tea party types let the debt ceiling go through. would love to delay medicine obamacare and get rid of the bailouts, but it is probably not worth having fights on the debt ceiling and endangering the national debt. people should give up on the , the establishment types, you give up on trying to ram an immigration bill through this year or next year, republicans will probably have the senate. no default. i think of those two traps can be avoided, the republicans will have a good year. >> here is mike with california independent line. >> good morning, gentlemen. theuestion has to do with global war on terror. it strikes me it is ill-

conceived, that we have had more than a decade of fighting. hundreds of thousands of deaths. trillions of dollars have been spent. despite having the greatest military in the history of the a gang ofare fighting psychopaths. the war is not abating. it is expanding. it strikes me the reason for that is that it is poorly conceived. and havingconferring a war on criminals, which is what al qaeda is, we have inadvertently conferred on them a title of warrior. i do not agree. there have been mistakes made, but they are not just criminals. they have an ideology. it is one reason they are able to up he'll to people. fighto means we need to

for the fight against them. we cannot let them take over chance of countries. we are in pretty good shape in the war against al qaeda and islamic radicalism and extremism. some,istan they let slide but president obama ordered a search there, which also worked. the biggest set of mistakes president obama made was announcing afghanistan at the same time he announced the surge. mightw it looks like he not even do so in afghanistan. is a sort of, we are pulling back. that message is dangerous. it does hardens those who want to stand with us and emboldens those who hate us and those who are on the fence and want to be opportunistic are more inclined to go the other way.

i am worried about a resurgence of al qaeda. it is patently false -- president obama's claim that they are on the run. i wish they were. he said in an interview this week the junior varsity -- the jv where is the uniforms, they are still the jv. the fact that al qaeda is recruiting new generations of terrorists is not something to be complacent about. if they are just jv, they seem to have half of russia on lockdown. a very credible threat against the u.s. embassy. is a little too much cockiness there on the part of the obama administration that they are on the run. i am worried the whole country is to complacent. talk.e cavalier we probably do not need to be listening to all of the stuff. just collecting the metadata.

all these phone calls and messages, i am not so sure about that. one reason we have had -- we have had -- we've been safe is that we have had a pretty good handle on where these guys are in their networks and who they're talking to. we are starting to lose the ability to connect the dots. back to before 9/11, i think. >> samantha is on the line. go ahead with your comment. tomy question is a follow-up one of the other questions. you mentioned two things republicans avoid going in to the next election. you think they will be strong. my question was, what do you strength?he biggest >> 2014 is off year as an election. i believe as strongly as anyone

the importance of having important conservative ideas. they will on their a more -- unveil a more comprehensive version of their own health care reform that will be better than obamacare. people are working on that and doing good work. ,istory suggests the election it is about that party's tenure on the white house. do you want to have -- to help them?ut, or check senators that will not go along with president obama and given like his approval rating, it looks to me like republicans are in good shape. i think republicans hold the house. different from 2016. presidential elections are about the future. nonincumbent presidential

elections, particularly about, president obama will have been there for eight years. or do we go now? -- where do we go now? very important for what they want to do and what their agenda is. the governors start on the state level. publicans are probably a little slow on this but it is now beginning to happen, developing serious government agendas and domestic and foreign policy at the national level. it happens in magazines like national affairs and others. think tanks. a little slow to pick up. so until we get into the 2015 and 2016 election cycle. important for republicans at this point. to say, ok, whatever happens, happens. if you are public in, you do not like it, if you are democrat, you like it more. that is the key question for

2016. i do not really distinguish. the dynamics of the off year election, which, already, you can see a pattern, is good for republicans. that is one set of dynamics. it does not translate to 2016. midterm elections, they lost. not much correlation. the good news for republicans is voters tend to want to replace the party in power after eight years. relapse incumbent after one term and then kick that artie out of the white house. out kicked the democrats after two terms of clinton. think the forward-looking agenda is really important for 2016.

these are political offers, mostly. they are not really going to be discussing in detail how to reform higher education loans or how to get rid of obamacare. tax reform and so forth. they will talk more of candidates. they will try to adjust the primary process and the debate process to make it more manageable for the party, in better shape, when it produces a nominee in 2016. personally, i am interested the house is in pro forma session. we go to the house. >> without objection the house stands adjourned until noon january 27, 2014 for debate.hour host: with that the pro forma session ends. have students from texas christian university joining us

on the line right now. richard from texas christian university, a journalism student there. go ahead with your question or comment. caller: good morning. mr. kristol i have a question. why is it that today more than the partisan divide is wider than it's ever been. compromise the very word? >> for reasons beyond anyone's this,l no one intended things are more different. they are more ideological, amonge more united themselves in their world view. in the old days the parties were theral republicans in republican party, there were southern conservative democrats, old fashioned machine democrats, as well as reformed democrats. some of the most interesting fights of my youth in politics parties.in both

on the democratic side there were all these reform democrats democrats inachine new york or chicago. then of course there were the scoop jackson democrats, they went away. so various social why logical, political trends led to this sorting out of the two parties. and it's just a fact that they further away from each other. everyone now, a lot of people now think it a bad thing and it has its down sides. is 50, 60 years ago, political scientists were all fact that voters didn't have a clear voice. totally parties, but confusing, democrat and republican don't mean anything. clarity, ad is political science associates about a report about a system ine two-party the 50's, and its point was we need to have two parties like parties we have today that really stand for something

different. pro-choice. now, we have that, we see it's in some ways not bad. for democratic accountability. but in other ways it can lead to deadlock, especially when voters elected barack obama and a democratic congress, they thought they had a mandate, they did a lot. aesident obama thought he had mandate obviously the second part of his first term. suddenly the 64 republican house seats that were democratic and the republicans in the house thought gee we have a mandate to obama, and then in 2012 president obama gets republicanbut the house gets reelected. a lot of my conservative friends are annoyed that president obama liberal.govern as a a lot of media types are annoyed that republicans in the house supposed to behave like conservatives, that's what they ran as. come tonot supposed to washington and say forget what i

said on the campaign trail. led lock is a result of the voters' indecision. neither party has really presented a convincing way forward. begin tolock could break in 2014. i think 2016 becomes a very lex.r 2016 is really a fork in the road. democrats win a third term, for conservatives like me it you get things back. the supreme court goes in a more liberal direction. foreign policy i suppose continues on this track. if republicans written in 2016 the houseue to hold and maybe the senate, then suddenly you have a did it situation. so 2016 becomes maybe a moment gets broken.dlock host: tim is from beaver falls, he's on our, democrats line. you're on, go ahead, please. morning.ood bill, i'm curious, where do you

think the energy comes from for the tea party? and another question, short, if indiana when dick even was being primaried, though i'm a democrat, if he had won that primary, i would have decision to make statesman, man is a and he was defeated. it's like there's some kind of on in the country that i don't quite get. lugar, he's take dick was defeated in a primary in and then murdoch lost the general election. lugar probably would have won general because he had a history of getting democratic votes. i know dick lugar, i respect him, but i don't agree with him on some issues.

hes with a pretty moderate republican on some issues and conservative than a lot of republicans would like. he also was 80 years old, being 80rong with years old, but certainly may be a time for a change in your senator. i don't think it was crazy for indiana republicans to i thought they, thought he would be a better candidate. one thing that happens when you have a party that's in turmoil lot of energy from the grass roots from the pea party, with different funders coming in. there used to be money only on the establishment side. that's not the case any more. i was, i would take the energy in return for some of the losses of seats that maybe didn't have to be lost. otherwise i think you just have party, you reelect dick lugar, you reelect the 75-year-old bob bennett in utah, is that going

republicanew of the party? so obviously some mix of experience and youthful energy thing.od but this is what happens when parties under turmoil, it difficult to go through it but for the party. if you look at american history these periods of turmoil and even some defeats sometimes do with or -- host: clarify. the generation al change and to some degree the ideological change within the party. host: our next student from texas christian university, haveed in 1873, we students from the bob sheaf fear school of journalism on the phone. schmitt, go ahead, please. caller: my question is, in the election, do the demographics prove that the majority of the young generation are voting democratic, so i my question is i want to know how the republican party has taken this into consideration and what

campaign strategy reforms we should expect to target that the 2016 election. guest: that's a good point, do think that's the most of all president obama's groups he did the best in cali, the young are persuade.t to try to the great thing about being young is that you can change of you voted for president obama, but the great thing about growing up is you mistakes. your and a lot of them certainly are happening with obamacare, with the economy, and i think foreign policy as well wondering maybe this path that i thought might be a good idea.sn't such a good i know many people in my vote forwardo mccoverage, carter and ended up voting for reagan and republicans since then. very doable.'s

it would be crazy if peel didn't try to learn anything from experience. it would be christmas if parties didn't try to change their image and also try to adjust to the times. where thebe issues republican party has to say look, the country isn't there so we're going to change our position or at least change the on we presently our position some issues. but i come back to the generation al change. one problem republicans have had pretty obvious, the democrats are running, the 43-year-old the 44,nton and then 45-year-old president obama first time he ran. their 40's. young tickets, clinton-gore. runningrepublicans were president bush and then senator dole, then senator mccain, and romney, they're all people i voted for. but if you're a young person, think the democrats look like they're a little more in

touch with me and my generation. time republicans won since the cold war was with bush who was younger, maybe two years older than gore, and younger than kerry. so i don't think it hurts to have younger candidates, that's why i'm a little skeptic about clinton. it's either in the nomination fight or the general election, not so sure about that. the pattern of the last several years is better off with a young heernor, young senator, but seems on dealing with issues, i'm not sure voters like looking days.rd these host: another student from t.c.u., michelle. caller: good morning, here in that it's estimated latinos will outnumber any other ethnic group by 2019. were also found in several important swing states like florida. latinos will be an important demographic in upcoming elections, so how do you see the

g.o.p. changing their strategy address this demographic concern? guest: the main thing you have groupss speak to these and respect them and show that you care about them, and people for you. a lot of the problem republicans have had that's been less latino working class.re think, and again it's maybe not their fault, it's the wealthyey, it's finance.the world of i think seemed out of touch with middle class, working class concerns. romney, whom i respect as a person, spent all this time talking about entrepreneurs, people who are building businesses, but didn't spend a lot of time talking about the people who are working 8, 10 hours a day as nurses, teachers, whotruction workers and will never start a business, but they're equally valued, they're

up their kids, contributing to their communities. it important for republicans to connection with those voters and citizens. so that requires some fresh thinking. but genuine thinking about how to have policies that are better for people like that, not simply pandering or thinking that this batch of immigration that if immigration,e for so many people change their vote. hostile,ou can't be obviously, to -- the republicans made a mistake some of their rhetoric in 2006, 2007. but i don't think you need to views about path to citizenship and so forth. i do think being serious about middle class and concerns is awfully important.

into ethnic groups come american life, italians jews, their own mind to some degree, they also just become different as groups. every latino is theirng a latino, i think intermarriage rate is pretty high. point there, they are americans already if they're voting. i guess i'm less concerned about appealing to this group or that group and more concerned about republicans having a really serious message that appeals to all americans, but especially i say middle class working class americans who have had a rough time the last few years. to alex in go tennessee, republican line. morning.ood actually i have more of a comment. my daughter says i'm the oldest person she knows, old fashioned that is, and i just wonder why words likeear patriotism, god and country from

today. these politicians i vote every year, every time an up.tion comes hear the same old garbage, but i abouthear anything patriotism and i'm very disappointed in our country right now, because they're taking church out of the schools, and everything. i guess i'm just too old fashioned, can't keep up with times. but i just don't know what to do. mybrother died in vietnam, ancestors fought in the revolutionary war, and i guess i patriotic to my country and i love my country. host: thanks, caller him. guest: that's very well see. i wouldn't be too despairing. problem that politicians speak about god and country and seem insincere, and it turns out they are sincere. do maybes what they more than what they say. and i think there's a lot of

there.ism out i'm struck by that when you see about's attitudes returning veterans, compared to war.ietnam i just did a panel discussion former -- where we discussed the civilian do, we didn'td to really fight the war here, but i can do toe's more we integrate civilian and military lives, make sure we're doing a good job for our vets and also our active duty military obviously. but i think the patriotism is think.than people but it's an interesting question, sort of how everyone the millennial generation, as they're called, interested iness that, i'm not so sure about. i think a candidate who can god, country, community, family, in a way that

hollow, that didn't seem pandering actually would have a great appeal any time, 2014, 2016. i don't think people are just interested in my paycheck, my this or that. tea party for all the people criticize it, the pea party was a patriotic effort. certainly i think the obama camp, the people who rallied to president obama also thought thingere doing the right for the country. tea party didn't have any self didn'tt in this, they ask for taxes to be cut, and i remember watching earlier in reporter on cnn bewildered by what are you doing here at this, obama is not raising your taxes, he's only raising raising the taxes on the wealthy care about this, he said i think we're damaging the country. so i think there's more out there than people realize. i think there's too much, too professionals have told too many politician as peel

to this group that way, 18 to with this promise, and obama was good on this, you can stay on your parents' health plan. wantre about you if you contraceptive coverage. i think for republicans, they've got to elevate the discussion to about something bigger than what government program is going to do this little thing you or out. host: the students today were chinbull.y professor our next student is matt jennings, good morning, go ahead. caller: good morning, thanks for us on. i just was wondering with all the talking the last couple years about national deficit and finally creating a national budget, what's going to be the strategy moving forward regarding managing the deficit and deal with the national debt? guest: that's a very good wastion, and the debt which so huge in 20092010 has receded a little bit. the deficit has been reduced some, but we're still running up amazing amounts of debt each

year. bond like so far the markets and others haven't penalized us for that, but that in my opinion him so i think everyone would be wise to continue focusing on the debt we have an think important development, which is the republicans, paul ryan put seriousbudget that had reforms. everyone said it political whatever, ryan and romney didn't win in 2012. but there's no evidence that it hurt the campaign, the medicare attacks, the attacks on ryan's reform plan didn't seem to work, republicans held the house which is the body that had budget.his republican candidates in 2014 are on board with that budget and i think they're doing fine. i think at least the republican party, i think is getting more serious about debt and deficit. now in practice people have bill,interests, the farm subsidies, they don't want to

give them up, so it's easy to it's hard in general, to do it in reality. way to testey, one the next republican feel of presidential candidates, and i inclined to will be do this to say what really are you going to do. i think voters will require a degree of specificity in 2016 that they haven't particularly presidentialecent elections, i think they're distrustful now of everyone's stuff and will say show me what your plan is about federal spending. not down to every tiny detail. but basically with a is your platform. and i think republicans who try, votersocrats too, the may not like that as much. host: we want to thank charter helpingations for arrange the visit at t.c.u. today. one more student, this is on withmorris, you're bill kristol. caller: good morning. my question is in the 2012 more women voted for president obama than mitt romney. what is the republican party

women foreach out to the 2014 and 2016 elections? well, look, women have always been a little more liberal than men, it goes back of reagan,y days they're a little more more compassionate, a little more concerned if someone says these asicies will hurt the poor opposed to gee we can't afford this any more. gender been a consistent gap. wasn't any bigger in 2012 than elections andus republicans won a lot of those elections with reagan and bush amonge they did very well mening anded acatly well among that youo i'm not sure need to reach out to one gender as opposed to the other. most women want what's right for the country, their rightes, not just what's for individual members of your own gender. i think it doesn't hurt to have and as,en as candidates you know, the governors and

congress women, and senators and that's happening in the republican party. and it's happening kind of as a reflection of developments over the last 20, 30, 40 years and now it's really hitting. it hit the democratic party a little earlier, but now it quite widely. leading -- barbara come stack has a distinguished record in the virginia house of delegates, i she's likely to win the general election. sheo one recruited her, decided to run, no one tapped her on the back and said you're a woman go out and do this. i think it's naturally happening in the republican party and i think that will help the democraticke charges which are pretty demagogic charges him. host: we want to thank the

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