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enrollment. it is a big issue for the insurance industry. >> there are delays for penalties. >> you have to qualify for a hardship. your policy was canceled and you find one and you can find one that is affordable, you can go through a process to get the hardship exemption a. it is unclear if that will be diligent. the hardship exemption, they are too wide open and people can simply use them if they need to to get out of getting health insurance. >> a small and declining population, it is only about 1.5 million people. it becomes a smaller and smaller group of people who don't go off and find other coverage for other reasons. they get jobs or go into the job market.
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to qualify from and to care. -- medicare. this is one of the reasons that it is not a very large portion of the market. >> this reaffirms something i already knew. this is a marathon and not a sprint. we are very focused on the politics and the enrollment deadlines. the real test is going to take years to find. >> thank you both for being with us. >> thank you. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [captioning performed by national captioning institute]
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>> a look at the gop and tea party. >> i am starting to think that politicians only care about one thing. they send you e-mails and they sent you letters and they sometimes friend you on facebook. , it isare a democrat really cool because you may get an im from george clooney. republicans are not like that. we are old school. we are trying to do the same thing. the politicians and both political parties, they are courting you. you know what they are up to.
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you try to resist it. you know they want one thing. but after a while on monday start to wear you down. you think maybe just this once. will try it. and you do it, right? i am not judging, i have done it for my too. i have done the get out and vote for another candidate running on somebody else's idea running on somebody else's bad policy. dirtyu always fill really the next day, don't you? you wake up saying, why did i do that? they do not call. [laughter] they do not write. keephey sure do not ever the promises they made to you when they were soliciting your vote, right? i have been that guy. my life,ain time in
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the republican party has stood for things i thought were pretty precious. my first experience in republican politics when i was a young intern and washington, d.c. and i was working for what is now freedom works, one good thing i got to do was see ronald reagan give a speech. i did not know much about politics. i thought i would be a professor at that time. i got to see ronald reagan who i did not know that much about. he talked about liberty. and he talked about freedom. he quoted. is,ou do not know who that you do not know the secret handshake of the revolution. me being young and naïve, i thought this is what republican is and i will be one of those guys. and i would find out quite soon afterwards that it really was not about that. firstould ronald reagan announced he was running for
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governor, all of the really smart people and in the gop or spin off the new york times" said he was a right wing lunatic. in 1976, a fitting republican president. can you imagine what john mccain oh would've said to seniors at the time? ronald reagan is a whacko bird. i noticed a pattern that republicans would win when they stood for something. when it was by and large what they did when they won office. that was true with ronald reagan and his true in 1994 when a newt gingrich was taking on his gop establishment and this permit -- permanent minority mindset.
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it was true in 2010 when grassroots activists started organizing in a large part due to opposition to all of the broken promises from the obama administration. there's been a lot tougher revision. in 2010, the chairman of the senate republican committee, publiclyyn, was arguing to things. we should not run against obamacare. we need to back off. lucky, senate republicans might pick up one seat. one. today, all of these experts within the gop, losing the sent majority in 2010. they said with the pick up one. we picked up seven. in my world, that is called
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winning. aretheir world, they diminishing expectations and telling us what we should not talk about and suggesting that there is some sort of trade-off between principal and electoral success. aboutjohn cornyn talks republican on the republican harm, often suggesting it is the tea party and the liberty movement and grassroots activists who call themselves cause additional conservatives and republicans believed what ronald reagan said way back when. that somehow, we are tearing apart the coalition that can .uccessfully beat harry reid let me suggest a few facts. senator,r, republican he lost his primary and refused to support the republican
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candidate in indiana. maxed outtly, his pac so the democrats running in georgia is a seat we hope to hold. who is a preferred candidate over rand paul. you know what he is doing? democratic super pac and is cochairman with my favorite economist. do know who robert ryke is? charlie crist is run for governor as a democrat. he was endorsed by the sent republican committee. -- senate republican committee and he was held up as the future of the gop. we had to be more like charlie crist to win. my favorite, or my worst nightmare was arlen specter. do you guys remember the first specter?enegade arlen
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and justick santorum about every body that was considered acceptable within the gop said the only guy that can win is arlen specter. if they had not weighed in, he fight.ave won the the fight over a obamacare. who was the 16th vote on obamacare? the very moment he decided he and notn as a democrat a republican, arlen specter. would not be fighting to repeal obamacare if it was not for the decisions of by some republican experts to save arlen specter. friend,hner's best steve latourette, he has created a pac called defending a main street. i quote "to beat the's not out of the tea party he bank -- tea
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party." he is defending some the biggest offenders when it comes to limited government. you know who funds that? league.political union. international building trades union. i cannot find a single conservative or republican donor that gives to steve's pac. here we are. we have this family squabble. there's an honest debate going on about what is good policy and what is good politics and how do we take the majority that retake the majority. -- retake the majority. we are tired of one night stands and waking up the next day and , theying we got had again
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may this promises during the election cycle and went in the opposite way. goingis a paradigm shift on in this country that the gop is very slow to figure out. a huge opportunity here. imagine what we could do if the tea party and constitutional the service and liberty groups and millennial's and the gop faithful could come together on a set of visible's -- princip les. will be unstoppable. everywhere i go, i am told the local gop does not want to them. they do not want young people to believe in a liberty and tea party activists who will spend every weekend knocking on doors for candidates. i do not get that. i do not get that. the gop do study get it because there's a new world we live in fact exactly like what we should be.
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what do we believe? we believe in competition and freedom and the personal knowledge and ability of individuals to come together on a volunteer basis and create something that is so much bigger than anyone of us could have done. it is about freedom, right? market competition, local knowledge. when it comes to our politics, it is top down. it is still about into the minds of mitch mcconnell and the rnc and gop expert in washington, it is all about them figure out what they want to do and then dictating to the rest of us what we should do to fall in line. you are losing all of that that hasll of that fundamentally changed the world today. you see that in the ukraine today. you see it all over the world. you saw it in rand paul's race in ted cruz ability to go right
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around the gop establishment and run against a candidate that had an infinite amount of money and organize online and talk to bloggers and raise money in a beach centralized way -- decentralized way like the obama beat hillary clinton. they have it figured out better than we do. they have gone through this transition where hillary clinton was the chosen one and 2008 and had all of the democratic people saying hillary is the guy. everybody except barack obama, right? that was a joke by the way. except barack obama, right? he was raising money online. a growingping into progressive movement that has by today taken over the democratic party. told that are
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republicans cannot win unless they compromise on principles. i did not think that is true. there's a huge opportunity here, but i can tell you from my perspective and i think i speak for a lot of activists that are struggling to protect our country to save what is precious about america is they are not falling for the gop line anymore. they are looking for authenticity. they are not to look for a one a long-termbut commitment. based on a set of values and the do not change the election. if we can figure out how to do to balanceople want the budget i want to rein in ashington, d.c., our job is little harder. it is easy to make empty promises about health care. democrats are very good at it. the question is, how do we take good policies and make it good politics?
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not to buy misleading people but to doing what you said you were going to do once you get to washington, d.c. thank you. [applause] >> excellent. if question we are asked is the marriage can survive? my answer is, it'd better. the white house is occupied by an anti-american radical who has done more to -- [applause] to bankrupt this nation's economy and take down as a military power and destroy individual liberty than anyone in 2009 january 2009possible january when he first took office. worse than that. he is the head of the democratic party that has moved to -- so
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much to the left it has become a party that is anti-free market and anti-individual and anti-constitutional and unready to defend american sovereign interest. we cannot afford to let such a party run our government for years. 4 or 8 the world cannot afford it. how do we hold the conservative polish and that opposes our national suicide? how to make this marriage survive? the difference between the tea party and the republican party is a matter of tactics and temperament, not policy and ideology. to understand what i mean, you --e to go back to what made to what raised this question in the first place. the famous alleged shut down by
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tea party hero ted cruz. i probably should acknowledge i am a huge fan of what the tea party represents but not always what it does. of theve the emergence tea party is the most important political development in conservatism in the last 25 last and is possibly the best hope for our country. the government shut down with the alleged result of what ted cruz's filibuster to fund the government. they voted to fund the government. just not obamacare. an house had passed amendment to the resolution that would strip obamacare in the funding bill. a monster named harry reid is stripped the amendment from of is how theich democrats were able to lie successfully about ted cruz and the tea party. ted cruz conducted a one-man filibuster.
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cave in ofarded as a most of his republican colleagues who voted to join the resolution with obamacare as part of it. the republicans attack each other instead of the real culprits. you might ask yourself this question -- what would've happened if the republican part and tea party and the koch brothers had funded a campaign to put the blame on reid and obama where it belonged? it was no such campaign. all of the parties failed to take the fight to the enemy camp. example ofanother the firing squad that we on the right are so good at and continually sets us back. thatond important point applies to all of the friction between tea party and republican.
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the conflict within the right about obama shut down was not about policy. it was about tactics. in congress was "too obamacare with no exceptions. not a single republican legislator voted for it. not a single republican legislator would support it. the issue was tactics. democrats, howhe to defeat the socialist party that now controls our government and is hell-bent on bankrupting and destroying the culture of individualism and opportunity has made this nation what it is. crucial tontal is keeping the marriage alive. a tactical difference is no grounds for divorce. principle totant understand is there's a difference between politics and policy.
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republicans are good at policy. they are not so good at politics which is how you get to policy. by lying lowmacare until neville majority -- until we have a majority or demoralize our troops who see us as compromise is? and give up the chance of ever winning a majority and the condition our goals. these are the questions that divide us. they are legitimate questions and excuse me for blurting this out, no one knows the answers. politics is always a gamble. no one can be sure. that is why we have to respect each other and keep our coalition strong even though we disagree. i certainly -- we are terrible at politics.
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when republicans and democrats square off, it seems like godzilla versus bambi. as sexistus racists and selfish pigs and we call them, liberals. [laughter] who is going to win that argument? they spend their political dollars calling us the names and shredding our reputations. we spend hours explaining complicated solutions we propose that will work out why there's do not. when you're being called a racist and enemy of women at a the issob, who see listening to your ideas about the budget? who is going to believe you when all of your motives are old. -- ulterior? this is a problem we have failed to address successfully. it is why the democratic party
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with positive that are morally repugnant still win elections. medicare is bankrupt and a mess. social security is bankrupt and a mess. the war on poverty is a catastrophe that has created the worst poverty it was designed to cure. wincrats can still elections and passed the biggest socialist entitlement scheme ever and get away with it. until republicans and tea partiers fight fire with fire, it is not going to change. [applause] 25 years -- [applause] 25 years after the most oppressive and in the world collapsed because socialist economics do not work, 49% of americans according to a poll think socialism is a good system.
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as a political failure on our part. we won the cold war but did not drive the stake. the vampire on social justice has risen again. isther way of looking at it in the republican party and conservative generally are guided by a business mentality where the left's mentality is missionary. let me explain. democrats see themselves as social redeemers. they do not approach social programs, problems automatically looking for ways to improve the situation or that except as a political expedient to get the votes. they approach social problems within i to changing -- an eye to changing the world. clinton told the new york times we have to define what it means to be human and
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the 21st-century. no republican in his right mind talks like that. eve of election, barack obama said we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the united states of america. no one in his right mind even thinks like that. unless they are progressives. they believe they are on the side of history. of the moral arc universe is bent on justice. that phrase is woven into a carpet that obama has installed in the oval office it is his inspiration. missionary paradise is called social justice. the pursuit of social justice is why the democratic harty sent out radically to transform and fix the economy and regulate the health care, 300 million americans without the support --
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coo co --n itself, cuckoo. single the support of a republican. ae democrats party has become dangerous party. it is driven by the missionary left. politics as war conducted. that is why democrats say and believe that republican's are conducted wars against women and minorities and the poor while repugnant refer to them as liberals and patiently explain why their policies will not work. explain why their policies will not work, they would be out of business. socialism does not work. have ruined whole continents. why haven't the democrats --
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they are missionaries and their polyp tics -- politics are religious. profits of athe social redemption, a future in which the meaning of being human has been redefined as social justice prevails. because their politics are inspirational, every failure is regarded as a glitch. the cause is noble and they cannot allow it to be derailed by a failure of any of its parts. after a century of roy and continents, socialism is another name for delusional and progressive. these are the fantasies that drive the democratic party today. by contrast, a business mentality which is ours, not mine because i am a renegade. business mentality is pragmatic.
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if expectations are modest. it is now looking to change the world we look at but the beings that inhabit. needs within the perimeter set by human capabilities and desires. a businessman is delusional when his expectations exceed the capacity of the marketplace and the market punishes hama. punishes them without mercy. a business approach is fundamentally positive. theucceed it must meet expectations of others and not just really their hopes. it was to avoid conflict -- wants avoid conflict. maximize customers and expand and therefore, to make deals. a businessman would rather buy you out or merge with you then crush you. when obstacles presented themselves and are cheaper and more productive to compromise then find a way around them.
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this is the mentality of our washington insiders. a way of looking at the schism between the tea party and the republican party is that the tea party which is a upstart is driven by the missionary mentality while the republican party is more of a business establishment with a business temperament approach. john boehner and mitch mcconnell are dealmakers, not the game changers. the catch is this probably not the best mentality when confronted by a missionary party that his use politics as war and is out for your blood. in these circumstances, equal and opposite forces, a missionary force required to defeat it. the grassroots understand this which is why and how the tea party was formed and why ted cruz is able to defeat the strongest republican establishment in texas.
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the most important republican state and the con is senator. the tea parties mission is not parallel to that of the left. it is not about creating a new race of human beings. its mission is religion of business. constitution, it is out to defend something familiar and rail. a constitution that has been shredded and an economy that is headed for bankruptcy. partys not mean the tea should be on mindful of the dangers that missionary ideas bring. do not guarantee good candidates or went into politics. some tea party losses and the last election her to the ca -- her to the cause. the fact of the tea party is missionary and organize as a cause on the other hand makes its demented actions seem
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impractical and even extreme to business as usual republicans. this is inevitable. in order to change things, you have to take positions even if they seem extreme. positions -- >> it is the nature of change and it is already changing something. whether it is -- what is changing is the republican party. without the tea party, there would be no ted cruz, no rand paul, no mike lee. if the tea party were not challenging the rest public and -- the republican establishment and causing conflict, we would have no reason for being. stand on that cruz's the senate floor not only increases the chances of but itcan victory, enhanced them. it lit a fire under the base. it show the rank-and-file that there are republicans ready to fight.
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