america with assistance from the u.s.a.a. and american bar association is launching a new website supported by the innovation grants. it will serve as a public porch or for thousands of caregivers across the country to access financial, legal and social resources. this will further enhance their innate national collaborative effort facilitated by the foundation called "lawyers for heroes." they offer free legal services. my heartfelt thanks to the admiral ryan and the leaders of these organizations for their incredible commitments. the critical need for increased caregiver education and training. i am excited to announce that easter seals have stepped forward to lead a national effort.

the dixon center, the national alliance for caregiving, uso, atlas research, family caregiver alliance. this collaboration will provide thousands of caregivers with valuable training across the country. targeting those who are not currently eligible for the program. online sessions will be for available for those unable to make the live sessions do to their caregiving responsibilities at home. we have an organizational a team involved in this initiative. addressing yet another finding, the u.s. chamber of commerce and its foundation have made a significant commitment to military caregiver employment and work ways need. the organization's hiring the heroes program will leverage its

experience to assist caregivers who need to find employment in order to support their family and to offset additional caregiving experience. it will introduce cared givers to a myriad of virtual tools and incorporate them into an innovative ritual job there program that will soon be unveiled. the current job fair initiative will be expanded to focus on caregivers and areas near military treatment facilities. additionally, the chamber will host a major summit for the business community and partnership with my foundation september 2 to promote employment. as you can see, they are already committed to making a huge difference in the lives of care givers. these major commitment demonstrate the kind of measurable solutions the

coalition will focus on moving forward. i am truly touched we're joined today by caregivers from across america including those who are part of our 50 state caregiver fellows program, advising the foundation and raising awareness by sharing their story. they are the heart and soul of everything we do. they inspire us with their true acts of heroism and remind us why the work ahead is so important that i am committing today to convene us a year from now to report on our collective progress. we owe that accountability to the caregivers in this room and across america. i know my partner's feel the same. united we stand, divided we fall has always been a transcendent american motto. it reminds me of what might they of my favorite

historical antidotes. it is the story of a night in 1945 when dwight eisenhower was walking along the banks of the rhine river, it in king of the crossing in which he would leave the allied armies. he met a soldier and asked why he was not slipping. the young g.i. said i guess i am a little nervous. "so am i," said eisenhower. let's walk together and perhaps we will draw strength from one another. i draw strength every single day from the stories of love and devotion demonstrated i are our nation's military and veteran caregivers. may the commitments to their loved ones inspire us to walk with them and together we will draw the strength and support of americans in every corner of this country. thank you so very much. god bless you all.

may god bless this great land of the free america. thank you. [applause] >> thank you very much. thank you. thank you so much. i'm coming back. i now have the honor of introducing melissa meadows. she left her job as a nurse to serve as a full-time caregiver to her beloved husband, staff sergeant john meadows, after his medevac from afghanistan last year. they have three sons, one daughter and a grandson.

their story of love and devotion to one another is inspirational indeed. melissa, would you come forward please? >> good afternoon. last january, my husband was injured in a mission and was medevaced here in virginia. i left my home and children to meet his flight. i was expecting to be only gone a week or so but i picked the past 14 months caring for my husband 24/7. he suffers from traumatic brain

injury, ptsd, autonomic nervous system function and orthopedic issues. life for him and me can be a challenge. every day i help him get up and get ready for the day and make sure he takes his medication. i manage finance and offer emotional support every step of the way. we have been blessed with a wonderful medical care team who is helped to make significant progress. one provider had described him as an advanced alzheimer's patient. he is doing much better. he is working harder to become an independent person. he's beginning to attend physical therapy sessions alone. he's learning to work a microwave. he still has a very long way to go. 14 months later our family is

forever changed. i lost my job as a nurse. our son stayed home. they got a crash course in being adult in managing a home without mom. i thank god for the friends and families in our lives. i cannot be more proud to call myself a military caregiver. i had the opportunity to speak to the first lady as a small group of caregivers. i was amazed at how intently she listened to me and the other women. i thought she was someone who genuinely cared about us and our struggles. it is my privilege to introduce her to you. i would like to introduce you to first lady michelle obama. [applause] >> thank you, everyone. thank you so much. good morning. let me start by thanking melissa for sharing her story with us and for all that she does for her family and for our country every single day. i also want to recognize the leaders of our military who were here today as well as everyone from military one source for

their generosity and support of today's event. i want to thank the wonderful women on stage with me today, senator dole, mrs. carter, and my outstanding partners. these women have shown such tremendous leadership in this effort. i am thrilled that we can all be together here today to market third anniversary of joining forces. today is just the first of a series of events out april that will celebrate the many ways our country is stepping up to support our military families in areas like employment, education, immunity outreach, and i am excited to kick the month off by honoring many of the folks who are here in our audience today. when jill and i started joining

forces three years ago, we did it because of people like you. i want to take a moment. when i look at you all and i see how emotional you are because you are here, because the country is recognizing what you do. i know that touches you so much. we know you have incredible strength. we know you have sacrificed so much. so much of what you do goes unnoticed. that's why it was so important for us to have you here at the white house. having people on stage here is

just a reflection of our respect and admiration for your sacrifice. you are some of the most unsung heroes in this country. i know from firsthand experience, i've seen you in action. i had the chance to meet with her and four other military caregivers at intrepid spirit one. this is one of our newest and most cutting-edge facilities are at it is amazing. it helped them deal with the unseen rules of war like ptsd and traumatic brain injuries. when i met with these women, i was instantly impressed by how poised and polished each and every one were. they were so incredibly articulate. they were exactly the kind of

women any company would want to hire an promote. i was wowed by how sharp they were. then i heard their stories. i was just blown away. they were dealing with the daily challenges that would knock the most people to their knees. everything from helping their spouses bathe to adjusting their new prosthetics to battling depression, anxiety, recurring panic attack. one woman quit her job almost immediately after her husband was injured. others have gone through counseling with their loved ones just to handle these newfound family issues. they all talked about how difficult it was to relate to their friends. even family members who did not quite get what they were going through. i remember one woman shared how little those closest to us understood what it was like when her husband spent extended time in a care facility. she told us how a coworker said it must be like your husband is out of town for a while. [laughter]

another told me a story that has stayed with me to this day. she said when her husband first came home, everything seemed fine. it was the joyous celebration that senator dole mentioned. but then days and weeks passed and she began to notice small changes in his behavior. he had trouble remembering things. simple tasks became increasingly more difficult. their marriage began to suffer. she says slowly the husband she once new seemed to disappear. she talked about feelings of loneliness and despair and isolation and fear. she also talked about the love and determination that kept her there by his side. she knew her family needed help. that did not mean that asking for it was easy.

according to the rand study that senator dole commissions, it is a common feeling among the one million caregivers of our newest generation of post-9/11 veterans. many caregivers do not have much of a support network for themselves and they are dealing with these emotional responsibilities largely on their own. this can take a serious toll on anyone. caregivers report more strength on their relationships at work and at home than on caregivers. often their own health suffers. they are at higher risk for depression. there are financial consequences, too. military caregivers wind up missing as many as three or four days of work a month. and that is they have a job they

can keep a job. it means lost income as well. the burden that these women in men -- and men bear for our country is real. they should not have to shoulder all of that alone. that is why i am thrilled that we have such a broad coalition of leaders here today. we're here to show these hidden heroes that we have their backs. senator dole told us about the many new commitments from our businesses and nonprofit organizations to caregivers with training programs and financial and legal resources and to provide better workplace possibility. we cannot be more thankful for the leadership to make these reality. so, yes. [applause]

i am proud to say this grew out of the encounter i had with melissa and the four other caregivers at the intrepid center. that meeting was the first time that the staff had convened a group like that. it was the first time. for one of the women there, it was the first time should ever spoken with another caregiver ever. -- she had ever spoken with another caregiver ever. we could immediately see how powerful it was for these women to be talking to their peers. soon enough they forgot i was even in the room. [applause] it was so good. they were immediately problem-solving. they were connecting with each other immediately. they were solving each other's problems and directing each other to websites and resources that could help. it was phenomenal. to the credit of the incredible doctors, they recognize the

value of these peer-to-peer connections. they spring into action right after that meeting. they told me they would reach out to more caregivers and reconvene this group every week. in the times since that meeting, another support group was formed as well. between the two groups, membership has grown to almost 50 caregivers just at ft. belfour. the department of defense will create something like this. they're committing to form in

person, pure forms of every military installation that serves wounded warriors and their caregivers around the world. there will also be creating online tools and webinars so caregivers who are not able to attend and enter some -- in person for them can connect with their peers as well. the tragedy assistance program for survivors, elizabeth dole foundation and other organizations are committing to training 10,000 caregiving peer mentors, a commitment that will reach 50,000 caregivers nationwide. they have the added support they need. the support of a friend and mentor who understands what they're going through. someone who can help them manage everything in their lives. it is really just a tip of the the iceberg. everything that we are talking about today from the pure forms to all the new resources that senator dole mentioned, all of that is a supplement to the tremendous caregiver support offered by the military and by the v.a. four years ago my husband signed

the health services act. thousands of caregivers have received travel reimbursements of up to about $2300 a month. thousands more have received comprehensive caregiver training. they have received access to insurance through the v.a. and they have received mental health care and counseling for themselves. through this law, caregivers are eligible for up to 30 days a year of respite care for themselves which means they can may be relaxed, may be reenergized or find some time to clean the house or go grocery shopping. we want to encourage all eligible caregivers to take advantage of these than the its benefits and connect with a host of resources by visiting caregiver.va.gov. one of the things we learned at

this meeting is when you are alone and isolated, often do not even know what resources are available. that's the frightening part. people are not accessing these resources as they are alone. we, as a nation, have to find folks out there who are struggling on their own and help them to connect. that is really what today is about. it is about connecting them with the resources available to them. i am so grateful for the leadership shown by everyone here today. i want us to take a moment to look around this room. we have republicans and democrats. leaders from business and labor and the military.

we're coming together to show our military families how much we appreciate them. this reminds me of a moment from earlier this year when my husband shared the story of sergeant first class cory renzberg in the state of the union address. i had the chance to sit next to him as the president told his incredible story, how as an army ranger he had nearly been killed by a roadside bomb in afghanistan. he fought back valiantly to speak again. to stand again. to walk again. it was a moment that brought a divided congress to its feet and inspired millions of americans across the country. you might also remember the man standing next to cory holding his arm as he stood to wave to the gallery. that was his caregiver. his father, along with his wife, have stood by cory's side since the explosion.

his mom makes sure cory is taking the right medications. she cooks his the meals. she helps with his morning and evening routine. his father spends an hour or two every day managing his legal and initial paperwork and answering his correspondence. cory calls craig his secretary. their family has never been alone on this journey. they have had a team by their side. the support started flowing and almost immediately after the explosion when an organization called "the ranger lead be way

way funds" bought plane tickets so more families could fly to the hospital in germany. then there were the fisher houses which gave craig and his family warm meals and beds to sleep on for 15 straight months. the nonprofit that paid to retrofit his house with wider doors and accessible shower and the military which provides the caregiving stipend to help pay the bills. most of all, craig will tell you about the support and flexibility he has been granted from his employers. he was, is an hr director.

the folks there told her to call them back when she was ready. when she was ready, she call them back and they hired her back. in a better position with even more flexibility than before. today cory continues to make progress. he has been renting his own place since last june. in six months or so, he will be moving into a new house, one purchased for him by the ranger lead the way funds. his story is the model. that is not true for everyone. this is his ideal. that is our goal. to achieve this goal we've got to follow through on these commitments we're making here today. we have to to keep asking ourselves what more can we do? that is the question for everyone watching today. how can we reach those that live in our own communities? that is what joining forces is about. that is why this month is not just a celebration but a call to

action. it is a call to all of us to match the service of our veterans and caregivers with services of our own. i want to thank all of the leaders who are here today. the men and women in this room, i want to thank you for showing us what bravery and courage and sacrifice really means. i want you all to know that we are not going to quit until we serve you as well as you served us. that is our pledge to you. joining forces is not about photo ops or white house events. it is about making concrete changes you can feel in your daily lives. we want you to keep working with us, hold our feet to the fire. let us know that you can feel all of these things that we are doing.

give us feedback and criticize us and poke at it. it is going to take all of us together. every time we ask, people step up. there's no one that has said no. we want to encourage those who are living in the shadows to step out. it is not a place of shame. they have been waiting to help. we need to know that they are out there. that is where many of you come in. being able to talk to your peers.

many of these caregivers are young themselves. so many of you will be such a tremendous support. we want you all to stay strong. remember this day. this is not the exception. it will be the rule. i know we will continue to work on this issue just like these wonderful leaders who hold up such a high bar. i wish you all would just slow down. [laughter] we are pledging to keep working on this issue. i want to thank you again. god bless you all. god bless the united states of america. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014]

>> enjoy the reception. [laughter] eat all that you want. [indiscernible] >> the next, a look at the house committee vote to cite foreign -- former irs agents. paul ryan speaks at a dinner

stop -- at a dinner. president obama speaks. >> there is no question that do not speakinely the truth to the american public. it is not just about an accuracy on terms of the affordable care act. and as the absence of speaking the truth about where we are. >> where are we? >> we are now at a standard of living as we had in 1988. family,ave her obligation and pure debt of a $1.1 million per family. that needs to be spoken. that needs to be spoken so we can build a context for the tough things that are going to come. the biggest problem i see with

congress is the denial of reality. and you can still be a good person and deny reality. we all have flaws. in ourdeny realities lives every day because we do not want to face it. but the fact is we have not had the leadership in this country a long time, and i'm talking presidential and congressional, that would stand up and tell the truth to the american public about the situation we find ourselves in. you can debate what caused it. i pretty will have my idea what caused it. >> senator coburn on his career, politics, and reasons for his retirement. sunday night at 8:00 on c-span's "q&a." >> recently, the house oversight committee voted to hold former erner inficial lois l contempt of congress. we talked about why the committee did this with an

analyst from the american heritage foundation. >> our guest is john malcolm. thank you for being with us this morning. explain to us what contempt of congress means. is 24-12.elieve it ms. lerner who was at the iris for a number of years in charge of the tax exempt organization section of the irs, she is in the middle of the scandal involving the targeting of conservative organizations who had applied for tax exempt status. she has appeared a couple of .imes in front of congress once she asserted her fifth amendment right in suffer termination -- in self incrimination. information on her background and vociferously proclaimed her innocence of any wrongdoing, and then she asserted her fifth amendment

right. the house has taken the position that by asserting her innocence, and by making certain statements, that she had waived her right to refuse to answer questions. another thing that has happened, which is of some significance, is that her own attorney, who is a seasoned counsel, has made statement said lerner has given extensive statements to the u.s. government in connection with this investigation. it is the house majorities opinion that by making the statements to the government, at least with respect to statements she has made to the government, she has waived the privilege of has to answer questions about that. >> explain how we got to this point. >> there's an investigation going on. it is an oversight investigation into an alleged wrongdoing at the irs. allegations are essentially that a number of conservative organizations applied for tax exempt status, either under section 501(c)(3) of the irs

code for charitable organizations, or 501(c) four of the iris code which is for so-so -- social welfare organizations. they were singled out because of containing the words project.y," or 9/11 the applications were delayed. information of an incredibly intrusive nature was required to be produced by these organizations to the idea of delaying or denying their applications. another thing is that it is known, it is beyond doubt that confidential tax information from conservative organizations was leaked to certain liberal organizations that then publicize that information. lernerspect to this, ms. , who is at the center of the storm of being in charge of the organization and a section of the irs that was doing all this,

obviously, they would like to get questions answered from her. darrell issa talks about this action. he says it is not one he takes lightly. the sticker look at what he had to say. and i'd like to hear what you have to say. a resolution recommending contempt of congress are former irs executive lois lerner. this is not an action i take lightly. ms. loist a year, lerner leaked information from inspector general's report. the committee has been trying to get to the bottom of irs targeting. we need ms. lerner's testimony to complete our oversight work, to bring the truth to the american people. things,she do certain and who else was involved echo -- toimportant to view review how we are at this resolution today. ms. lerner appeared before this

committee last may and made an entirely voluntary opening statement in which she professed her innocence. wrong,d she did nothing broke no laws, and did not violate any irs rules. oath,her under wide-ranging claims of innocence, ms. lerner answered some additional questions, then lerner asserted her fifth amendment rights, and then answered some additional questions after asserting the fifth. will what -- john malcolm, tell us what we heard there. guest: invoking of the fifth

amendment. if you're in a criminal trial or similar -- or civil trial and you're on the witness stand and you told me your side of the story, and then in order to subject the rest of the statement to the crucible of cross-examination, somebody got to ask you questions and said no, i have told my side of the story, the court would say you can't do that. made enough statements here to waive the privilege is something that a court will determine. again, she has also provided statements to the department of justice. that plays into it because of certain laws that apply to the federal courts here in d.c. seniorohn malcolm is a fellow at the heritage foundation.

the first, for this segment comes from houston, texas. pat is on the line for independents. caller: i would like to say that i looked at all of the coverage on c-span yesterday. it is a shame the way the -- i won't say senators, but congressman, treat the witnesses. ms. lerner.e i would not appear before them at all. her appearance with the justice department is something entirely different. if she chose to go to the justice department and make her case, that is one thing. to appear before all those

congressman, who have already decided that she is guilty, and to assert her fifth amendment is right.t all she said was she had not broken any laws. i saw that portion. i do not think that that in was her fifth amendment right. i certainly respect the opinion of the caller. unfortunately, she really did not have much choice about appearing before congress. she had been subpoenaed. you cannot refuse to appear before congress because you think you're going to be treated rudely. it is surely true that congressmen sometimes to treat witnesses rudely on both sides of the aisle. there's a long-standing history behind that.

to askmittee is entitled you questions. you are entitled to invoke your right against self-incrimination , if you tend to believe that the statements are going to make might incriminate you. however, what you are not entitled to do is to give your side of the story and then refused to answer questions that would test the veracity of your side of the story. with respect to going to the department of justice, here is why that is significant. you can assert your fifth amendment privilege if you think that it might incriminate you with respect to criminal wrongdoing. it is the department of justice that actually prosecutes people for criminal wrongdoing. if you're going to assert your fifth amendment right, doing it before the department of justice is the place, primarily, where you would do that. if, on the other hand, she has been granted immunity of some sort so that her statements cannot be used against her, or

she has waived her fifth amendment privilege to providing voluntary statements do department of justice, under d c law any case called alex versus united states, she has waived the privilege with respect to the breadth of the statements that the government already knows that came out of her mouth. she would only be able to assert the privilege if any additional statements would further incriminate her. it would go beyond anything that she has told the government. in this case she has admitted that she has spoken to the government and she has refused to provide any information to the committee, including information that she has artie voluntarily or otherwise provided to the government, and which could conceivably be used as a basis for prosecuting her. malcolm, what could her punishment be? guest: what is happened at the moment is there is a voting of this committee. the contempt citation will the decided by the full house. if the full house votes to hold

her in contempt, then a referral will be made to the department of justice seeking to have her tried for criminal intent by refusing to answer these questions. that has happened. it has happened, but it is rare. if she's is convicted it is a misdemeanor offense, and she could conceivably go to prison for up to a year. if the department of justice refuses to do that, then the house could hire its own attorneys and try to go to court and get her help in civil contempt. if she's held in civil contempt, then a judge could conceivably put her in jail until she purges herself of the contempt by agreeing to testify. also on thursday, we heard from the ranking member of the house oversight committee. let's take a look into that.

>> i would like to be clear. i really would love to hear testimony. i would love to hear even some of the answers to the things that my good friend mr. gaudi they are area legitimate questions, questions that will allow this committee to do its work most effectively and efficiently. all deserve to hear those answers. when comes a point in time certain things trump other things. instance, the idea that that one canhts research not to incriminate oneself, i think we have to deal with that first. as i said in my opening

about -- ist is not bigger than us. it is bigger than this moment, it is bigger than ms. lerner. john malcolm, your thoughts. guest: we do have constitutional rights. the are therefore very important reasons. however, as with all of our constitutional rights, one can wave them. so the question becomes whether ms. lerner, either by purchasing her innocence before the house committee or to the statements that she gave to the department of justice, whether she has waived them or not, that is a legal question. there is a genuine disagreement, it seems, assuming the person will see what a court of law has to say about it. i don't think that cognition cummings art it -- comments are frivolous.

zach is online for republicans. a couple of quick questions and comments. i was a democrat back in the 1980's and then i became a republican. i amreally concerns me is of the moderate side of the republican party. at whatd of horrified the republican party is doing and it is absolutely making me rethink where i stand. i'm thinking of becoming independent. the actual polarization in this action. you are talking constitutional rights.

we are talking about this issue .ith lois lerner honestly, i understand that everybody has a right to free speech. but as to the actual law that courtitten, the supreme altered the verbiage of the law. the rules have been broken with the republicans and the democrats using outside groups. we are wasting time and wasting many that should be working in thisreal problems country, concerning unemployment, concerning the major issues that face our country today. host: your take. guest: the irs is a very

powerful organization that has the potential to be very intrusive into our lives. clearly through its actions or inactions chose freedom of association, freedom of speech, some chose the irs for good reasons. i worked at a law form -- law with randolph thrower who was commissioner of the iris from 1969 to 1971. when the nixon white house contacted the irs and said, look, we want the tax returns of people who are our enemies, people we want to look at, theolph thrower has fortitude to say, no, i am not going to give you that information. it is being done for political purposes. he got fired by john ehrlichman for that.

and when articles of impeachment were drawn up against president nixon, one of the articles was that he attempted to get information to go against political and that's political enemies at the irs. that is what we are talking about here. the allegations are that after the citizens united of 2010, the democrats were very upset. corporations could now spend in political campaigns and they 4ould contribute 2501(c) organizations that participate in political activity. attempt was a partisan to stop conservative social welfare organizations from engaging in this activity because they view them as a threat politically and to the president's reelection efforts.

right ofses on our freedom to association, freedom of speech, administering very powerful laws in a partisan fashion. that is at least the allegations that this commission to investigate. the nsa and unemployment rate are very important issues. this is as well. host: next caller is romney for democrats. caller: first let me make a statement. from what i understand, these the party groups who were just formed in 2008, why were these groups not supposed to be investigated by the irs? why are they just supposed to be automatically be given the 501( c)4 or that any investigation? that seems hypocritical. you can investigate democratic

heart is but not these? i would like to hear your answer on that. 501(c)4 organizations are social organizations that are allowed to participate in political activities along is that is not there main purpose. there is the sierra club and the u. and organizations on the left that are 501(c)4 organizations. that means that the money they receive is not considered income by the organizations that receive them. indeed, these organizations showed -- should be scrutinized appropriate to do so.

the allegations is that the irs was pushing through all of the left-leaningby the social welfare organizations but was putting the stoplight asking all kinds of intrusive questions about training material, membership lists, issues that they espouse and were denying applications in an improper -- in an improper partisan manner. host: let's go to e-mail now. guest: the answer to that is may be. if you think that the answers you are going to give might incriminate you and involve you in an investigation of criminal wrongdoing, it is your right and it is an absolute right and it

your fifth assert amendment privilege. that is a constitutional right that we all enjoyed and it is a chair strike and should be upheld. if on the other hand you desire -- decide to assert a or if you have waived that privilege, then it would be an improper invocation. fromr next caller comes mesquite in michigan. caller: i am all for this lois lerner as far as her getting investigated. she shouldn't have to take the fifth and the millions of dollars that it will cost should go back to taxpayers. if you go back to the previous when you guys are talking about, syllabus having retired over obamacare and everything, i want

-- i watched c-span yesterday and they are asking for $21.2 billion to help other countries we have a lot of organizations in the united states that have to go through, like salvation army -- host: do you have a question about lois lerner this morning? right, i think she should be prosecuted. i was a prosecutor for 10 years in my career. forve a lot of respect federal prosecutors, for the department of justice and i certainly hope the facts do come out. and if people have broken the law, the people are prosecuted to the full extent of those laws. host: max is on the line for republicans. caller: he was asked by trueituents to investigate

to the vote for some reason. he denied the chairman any knowledge of its investigation -- of his investigation. we find out yesterday that there is e-mails that stated that he investigating information from irs and he came back and stated that he was only looking for public information. but a lot of the documents that were redacted. he also wanted to bring out all the documentation on interviews. i wonder if he included the information he received from the irs to see if it was public or if there was private information he wasn't privy to. , we got to make the

investigation open, all the information, all of peoples testimonies. that gives a heads up to everybody that they are investigating. there are still a lot more witnesses that they still have to question. guest: i am delighted to see congressman cummings said that he is interested in these questions. earlier in these proceedings, he had called it case closed. true to vote organization is an organization founded by catherine engelbrecht who was very upset at voter fraud. beenr organization has involved in trying to protect voter integrity, purging rolls of people were convicted felons or moved onto other states, who have been deceased, and is also advocating for voter id laws.

voter id laws are somewhat controversial. ase people view them necessary to voter integrity and others believe voter id laws are an attempt to suppress the votes of minority organizations. so missing albrecht apply for 501(c)4 status for true the vote slew ofived a whole letters from the irs asking for incredibly detailed and intrusive information that no 501(c)4 organization in the past had ever been asked to disclose. what is involved with huntsman cummings are two things. -- with congressman cummings are two things. in 2012, ms. engelbrecht received a series of letters from the irs asking for increasingly more and more and more information. and fairly closely on the heels which asked for the on information on the software they use, the training that they get to people, the vendors that they use, ms.

engelbrecht also received three letters on different occasions askingngressman cummings for very, very similar, if not identical information. cueto mitchell, an attorney that represents true the vote had a hearing this past february who said that it seems more than coincidence up to her and she would get to the bottom of this. and ms. engelbrecht has filed ethics charges against congressman cummings. the similarity between the request being made by the irs and being made by congressman cummings-- congressman and said, gee, maybe there is some improper coordination going on between the irs and congressman cummings staff. in january 2013, congressman cummings did contact the irs and it request publicly available information from true the vote. that information was provided by -- lois lerner who is

now on administrative leave. perhaps it did not involve with criminality and has nothing to do with the letter that cummings sent to a albrecht in 2012. host: we have a question here -- caller: there is obviously some bad blood between congressman issa of california and congressman cummings. that is unfortunate. i view it as an unfortunate sideshow. i don't want to get into whether congressman cummings committed ethical issues. out that warned

that he is somehow engaged in improper conduct, i will change my mind at that point. now, the committee continue its investigations, try to get the truth, and the issue lerner shouldt ms. be prosecutors and should be settled in a court of law. --ler: three trick things three quick things. i was under the impression that this so-called scandal was debunked. both parties were investigating and no one lost their status. also, why isn't darrell issa spendingontempt for taxpayers money's holding these hearings when he knows there's nothing there to see? also, why isn't his party and him held in contempt for shutting this government down for $24 billion?

they said they couldn't help the , $60ans of this country million, they didn't have that many but the republicans can shut the government down and said, oh, we just wanted respect. guest: i appreciate your question in the commentary. i respect your opinion but i also respectfully disagree with it. i do not believe that this matter has been debunked. quite the contrary. been clear that laws have broken and confidential information was disclosed by the irs in clear violation of federal law of conservative organizations to liberal organizations. there is a number of incidents of that. as far as your statement that this applied to both sides of the political ledger, i disagree with that. >> dozens, if not hundreds of conservative organizations that applied for 501(c)(3) and 501(c)

four status were delayed and some cases in approved, but only after two or three years and a myriad of incredibly intrusive information was demanded from them. with respect to progressive organizations, the evidence so far has shown that there were seven organizations, compared to dozens if not hundreds of organizations that were tagged -- further review the because they contain the word progressive. the irs provided information to the committee that all seven of those organizations were granted their status in short order and that they were scrutinized for reasons that had nothing to do with partisan political considers nation -- considerations. host: our next call is from

michigan. caller: i'm a libertarian, center of the left. i do like tea parties, but i think they are big babies. i'm in the process of doing a 5013 c. irs is your partner and they are the boss over you. anythingscrutinize from any group. if they found that somebody has done something illegal, that is one thing. -- you have to tell them what entities you're doing. forms to fill out all my to be completely exempt and i have to fill out the activities that i tell them that i am doing and keep to that or i am in trouble. if they're doing anything illegal, think the tea party is a big baby.

they have to do that with every group. , i can get a lot of benefits, but -- i have never heard anybody referred to the irs as a harner -- a harner. it -- a partner. yes, they do have to scrutinize of look for any indication wrongdoing and have the right to scrutinize that activity and investigated, however, they are supposed to do so in a nonpartisan, apolitical manner. and that clearly did not refer here. with respect to your designation, it is incredibly important. , people can 501(c)3 donate funds to your organization. they can take tax deductions for those contributions.

and the organizations that receive them can use those funds. they don't have to disclose who their donors are. they don't have to pay taxes on those donations. if you are a 501(c)4 organization, the people who donate money to you cannot take that -- cannot take tax deductions but you do not report those donations as taxable income and you do not have to disclose who your donors are. if you are not a 501(c)3 or 501(c)4 organization, if you are organization, then either the information that you receive -- i'm sorry, the donations you receive our or you income to you have to disclose all of your donors, which of course, for some causes, maybe politically unpopular in some circles to subject those donors to harassment and that has happened. host: fran in pennsylvania for republicans. caller: thank you very much.

first of all, i want to make a quick comment. i am amazed at how people are not insulted by this. the first amendment, freedom of expression, this is an attempt to shut down freedom of expression. i simply go by the time one that has been offered to the public. all the evidence shows that this started after the citizens united case. when you. all the isaac, across all the tees, put it all together, if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, well then, it is a duck. i'm appalled that people don't see this as a total attempt for shutting down the freedom of expression. guest: thank you.

the timeline is indeed very important. 2010 is when the supreme court issued its citizens united case where corporations could not contribute to campaigns and could also contribute to 501(c)4 . organization's a number of media outlets immediately pointed out that the democrats felt threatened by this because of the involvement of these organizations in elections. less than a week later, during the state of the union address, president obama, in front of a number of the supreme court justices, decried the citizens united case and said what an awful decision it was. from that point on, there was a steady drumbeat from the white from in radio addresses various people like david axelrod decrying the citizens united case, calling for investigations, calling for the disclose act that would require

donor lists be publicly available for 501(c)4 organization's. by october of that year, lois lerner gave a speech at duke law "hool in which she said everybody is screaming at us right now. fix it now before the election. can't you see how much these people are spending." that steady drumbeat continued and what happened happened. left-leaning 501(c)4 applications were pushed through while those of conservative organizations were denied and harassed. host: doug is on the line for democrats. caller: good morning. to your responses and lot of these questions you like to tend to agree to

disagree. and i pull that card, too. i disagree with you. the american heritage foundation , that is pretty well -- anyway, i don't want to go that route. these dog and pony shows that they are putting on with these committees, they know full well that these are not going to go anywhere. they are going to be spoken. they will be yelled at. fryingll be put in the pan and they will be -- when you are being interrogated like that from the congressman, you are bound to say something. your pride gets a little hurt so you are going to respond. it is almost like they are trying to get these little --ndbites from the responsys from the respondees to use in their campaigns and use against them in the fox newscast or

whatever. it just seems to me like they just keep regurgitating this old stuff over and over again and they will keep it out there in thefocus to drum up responses from their base. i guess that is a comment. i really don't have a question for you. keep up the good work. guest: thank you. i certainly appreciate that comment. there's is no question that there is a political theater. at times entertaining and at times frustrating. that has time -- that has happened time immemorial. it has been exacerbated ever since there has been cameras in congress. ins is an oversight government reform committee and they do have important work to do. they do need to shine a light

into government dealings to see if laws are being enforced with integrity and with an equal hand or whether wrongdoing or impropriety is taking place. they need to shine a light in order to see whether there needs to be reforms to laws or people need to be investigated and that is important work of the committee. and i don't consider this committees were to be a waste of time. i think it is an important issue. hopefully, the political theater acts will not overwhelm the functions of this committee of although i realize at times it does. host: our next call comes from montgomery texas. are you with us? one more try. are going to move onto cameron, north carolina where gary is on the line for democrats. gary, are you there? caller: yes, ma'am. where inike to know

the constitution says that you are entitled to tax-free exemptions. guest: it doesn't say that you are entitled to a tax-free exemption. it does say you have first amendment right to freedom of association, freedom of speech, and the ability to petition your money for a redress of events is. there are social welfare organizations of all kinds that engage in all sorts of activities and you are right to a tax-free exemption that it may not come from a constitution but it does come from the internal revenue code and that is supposed to be applied in an evenhanded, nonpartisan manner by the irs which it did not do in this case. host: >> on the next "washington journal," we will talk about the gender pay gap. the economist peter morrissey.

washington journal begins live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> page is interviewed on the question of integration in baseball. , it is clear to me that he had serious doubts about the integration of baseball. he said because what will happen they want our fan base. we are outgrowing the major leagues in games. we are packing them in. we think they want our fans. if you want to integrate, take old teams, hold black all-star teams into the majors. if they're really interested in

increasing the talent of the take oneey won't just or two players. we are bunches of players who are good enough to play in major league baseball. >> satchel paige and integrating professional baseball, saturday night at 8:00 eastern. hard of american history tv this eekend on c-span3. student cam is c-span's annual competition that encourages middle and high school students to think critically about issues. students were asked to create their documentary answer the what is the most important issue the u.s. congress should consider in 2014? benjamin bluhm is an eighth grader from st. mark's school in san raphael california. considers how the u.s.

agencies monitor and collect data. >> imagine if you had access to the governments private classified documents. if the government ever found out about this, you'd be subject to arrest under federal laws. in reality, the united states government has been spying on ordinary citizens for years, which is both illegal and unconstitutional. ♪

>> 23 days after the fall of the twin towers, president george w. bush issues a secret order that authorizes a variety of surveillance tools to be used in the u.s. to combat terrorism, including digital spying on americans online and telephone communications. in 2014, the government is still using the surveillance tactics. in december of 2013, edward snowden revealed the national security agency's resume program which intercepts and collects data on american citizens with absolutely no connection to terrorism at all, including the families, chats of their friends, and private videos and photos. the nsa has access to all of our data and internet communications. internettly, in the era, everyone's privacy has the potential to be compromised. >> in government surveillance in

general, sure, it can be used as an investigative tool, for example. have agencies like the nsa and the fbi is because of their role in stopping attacks on the u.s., or crimes within the u.s., but this isn't something that can be totally unchecked or that should happen without any kind of oversight. of course there are pros and cons, but it is up to the american people to decide what sort of surveillance is being pros and whether those outweigh those cons. >> refound through electronic surveillance that they were in the initial stage of plotting to bomb the stock exchange. >> kiev the eyes number two said tapping into the e-mail of an al qaeda leader in yemen led them to this man in kansas city and then two other americans

prepared to attack in 2008. >> united states government applied multiple tactics to spy on citizens. the bottom line is that all of these surveillance techniques share the same purpose -- to collect information for offensive board defensive purposes. the prevention of terrorist attacks on u.s. and foreign soil is clearly a benefit to these programs. however, the overuse of surveillance in the united states is unconstitutional. surveillance cannot be an advantage if it breaches civil rights to a high degree. >> it currently allows government agents to search americans private e-mails without a warrant. perspective, i spoke with nsa whistleblower and former at&t communications who revealed his company's cooperation with the nsa in installing hardware to monitor and capture american telecommunications in the famous room 640 18.

this whole new level of surveillance that was never dreamed of even by george orwell . the internet has penetrated to a report of society. it is in your house, it is in your phone with you walk around with everyday. it is in your car. every day they are expanding places where the internet can access, and the nsa can penetrate all the places and is scooping up all that information and collecting it and storing it in huge data warehouses. we hear from snowden that they tapped into the transatlantic aber-optic cables which cover major portion of the world communications. anytime the government was so look up someone, it is all there. they can find all your associates, what you have talked to people about, what your

financial transactions are, what kind of pictures and video you look at. your whole life is out there on the internet. >> throughout american history, intelligence has helped secure our country and our freedoms. u.s. intelligence agencies were anchored any system of checks and balances with oversight from elected leaders and protections for ordinary citizens. >> government surveillance is a crucial issue that congress must address in 2014. the fact that the government is using billions of chats and e-mail without any warrant is a breach of the united states constitution. it is the basis for all american freedom. it is government's duty to protect the citizens of the united states.

for this reason, congress should craft public policies that limit surveillance to specifics suspected terrorists and require the nsa to obtain individual search warrant for people of interest. microsoft executive vice president of legal affairs said -- people will not use technology they don't trust. governments have put this trust at risk, and governments need to help restore it. >> to watch all the winning videos and to learn more about our competition, go to c-span.org and click on student cam. tell us what you think about the issues this student wants the congress to consider.

>> for details about paul ryan's appearance at the republican party lincoln dinner, we turned to rebecca synder brand. she's a deputy white house editor for politico. why is congressman ryan making his appearance in iowa? >> is a short version and the slightly less short version. ryan agreed to speak at the dinner at the request of the chairman of the rnc, reince priebus. he wanted to help the party raise money. the longer version is of course that the congressman is in the middle of a very interesting phase in his career. he is trying to decide on his next move. and i was stopped is definitely part of that decision-making process. >> what are his future political plans? >> there are a couple of options and he's coming to a fork in the road. his term as ahead of the budget -- of the house budget committee is expiring. yes to decide on making a run for the oval office himself or

looking to cheney -- to claim the chair of the ways and means committee. some people who are very close to him don't seem to have a read on where his mind is right now. those are two options that are before him right now. we will see which way he's leaning in the next few months. basically, with the start of the new congress, that is when his new term would begin if he does seek the ways and means committee chairmanship. >> who is in the audience in iowa at this lincoln dinner of iowa republicans? is a veryow it interesting moment for the iowa republican party. we have seen some of these intraparty battles over the years. with seen factions of the party battling it out very right now you have the so-called liberty movement of conservatives who have been in control of the party in iowa. that control looks to be coming what the based on

-- the incoming leadership and outgoing leadership are not on the same page. you have this split. you have social conservatives and so-called liberty movement conservatives who are at odds with each other very that is very much manifest. it is supposedly what they're expecting. >> we're seeing that split in iowa. what does it mean from republican party nationally? this played out across the country. we saw that, obviously during ron paul's presidential run when you saw supporters of the taking control of the party committees, taking control of the delegate selection process.

some conservatives are really pushing back on that or you would see actual splits where you would have two sides both claiming control of the party infrastructure. at times when supporters of congressman paul had claimed the party structure, you would have the national party itself almost on strength a rival structure. this is a split that we have seen played out time and time again across the country. right now we are seeing it in iowa. >> how might that affect midterm elections coming up in 2014? >> it is tough to say exactly whether intraparty struggle actually plays out at the ballot box. whereit could play out is you see what happens in terms of the foot soldiers, what you see that the party infrastructure itself is turning out. you have to say that the national party, regardless of who claims the infrastructure itself, is going to want to put those resources on the ground and support their candidates.

struggle thatis a bears watching. it remains to be seen if it affects any votes or effects the turnout operation that republicans have come to expect. rebecca sander brand, you can follow her on twitter. thank you for your time. >> congressman and former vice presidential candidate paul ryan was a keynote speaker at this year's iowa republican party lincoln dinner. iowa traditionally holds the country's first presidential caucus. >> this is 50 minutes. [applause]

wow,. i thought you're going to go through my cub scout badges. hey, somebody just said go, packers. no go, bears, right? is just like our wisconsin lincoln days. that being on the 2012 to be, i got a chance articulate that, it is a bitter loss. you feel it deep in your gut. you know this takes for the country. having gone through that, i've also had a lot of benefits. see med a lot of folks and recognize me throughout this will country. has gone up.

i was getting on a plane three months ago in milwaukee, and this lady was looking at me and she took her phone outages taking pictures of me. i felt like the polar bear exhibit at the zoo. she would like to take a picture and she said sure, yes. we found a passerby, took a camera, took a picture of us. she said oh, it is so nice to finally meet you, governor walker. [laughter] i have always wanted to meet you. to which i said, i hope i can count your support in 2014. it gets better. a few weeks later i was back at the milwaukee airport. i go back and forth between d.c. milwaukee. flight attendants are talking to each other and they're pointing at me looking and talking and pointing. finally, one of them comes up to me and says, you are somebody

famous,? are you anthony weiner? [laughter] >> no, i'm scott walker. this is a true story. look, one thing that this has given me, having had the opportunity to represent my party on a national ticket is, i have gotten to tour this country and see people from all walks of life. i am basically kind of a walking focus group. i have to tell you. people are frightened about the future of this country. everybody knows deep in their gut we are on the wrong track. the central challenge of our country, if i can summarize it , is that we face an

uncontrolled government that threatens to overwhelm us. challengese of the --t meant and i had in 2012 mitt and i had in 2012 was that it was our word against theirs. they did not put their program in practice yet. the president had total control of congress in his first two years. were pelosi and harry reid running the senate and house. they passed all these bills, but they delayed its implementation until 2013. it was our word against theirs. guess what? now we have big government in practice. the theory is a whole lot

different than what it looks like in practice. yourber, if you like doctor you can keep it? it is going to lower health care costs? this is what is different now. thele actually see that results have nothing to do with the rhetoric that was used to sell this program. >> is a bitter irony that the week that vladimir putin invades ukraine, the president sends a budget to congress that proposes

to bring our army to a level we have not seen since before world war ii, to shake our navy to level we have not seen since before world war i, and to bring our air force to the lowest level we have ever seen. ,he only thing he wants to cut compensation for our soldiers, our readiness, our military, not , but tocit reduction fuel more domestic spending. so we see this big avalanche of debt in front of us. hollowing out of our military. we see this huge, big government in practice and we know our country is on the wrong track. the easier story to tell, the teachable moment we are in right now, is that this stuff has nothing to do with the promises they made to sell it. chairman i committee get to have the chairman runoff

all these numbers. we'll get ourif handle overspending, if we don't reform government reform of these and settlement programs going after this corporate welfare, what will the tax rate have to be on my kids when i have grandkids? when i have grandkids running around the age of my kids, what will the tax rate have to be? they got back to me and sent me this letter. that lowe tax bracket income americans pay which is 10% now, that has to go to 25%. the middle income tax bracket from middle income taxpayers would have to go to 66%, and the top tax rate, the one that although successful small businesses pay, that would have to go to 80%. said, next sentence they this could have some negative effects on the economy at that time. [laughter] we know this is the path we are on. to our a huge that

self-governing future. this is not just economic. take a look at the little sisters for the poor. you have the federal government telling a group of nuns in can'tdo that they practice their faith the way they want to. you have the federal government violating our first amendment rights of conscience of religious freedom. we are increasingly being ruled by bureaucrats without our consent and a president who does not feel bound by the rule of law. and on about the list of complaints and we can air out our grievances. this fight is not about balancing the budget or reducing tax rates are holding up our military or protecting our conscience rights, this fight is basically a fight over one big idea, what we call the american

idea. it is a really simple concept, but it is very unique. where the only country founded on an idea. our founders knew this well. for most of human history, the central idea was that some were born to rule and the rest were destined to obey. our forebears rebelled against and from that was for the american idea. i have heard from speech after speech today. that is what gives me solace. we are reintroducing ourselves to it. the declaration of independence is like the birth certificate of our country. the american idea is really clear. huge person is fundamentally equal and capable of governing themselves. doesondition of your birth not determine the outcome of your life in this country. this is a system of natural rights.

our rights are automatic and natural herbs they come before government. that is what is unique about our system and our country. it the idea which we are dedicated to. it is a truth that launched this nation, determined to make this truth real. take a look at the examples of what this has done. i got a chance to see your congressional delegation, to see terry and kim and a lot of violence. you a couple of weeks ago, dedicated a new statue in the capitol rotunda. every state gets to statues for prominent citizens. seeions of people come to this phenomenal statue of norman borwaug. my wife is a shirt

until relative of him. the families and talk about families and shared memories. this is a guy born a farm boy in farm, had ap on a dream, had a great education, came up with some amazing ideas, and was the founder of the green toolution, and help save million lives. only in america. , ipassgo by the statute at a time today, it makes me think of other iowa leaders and their potential. heck, imagine what chuck grassley would've done with his life if only he had a law degree. [laughter]

the question is this, we know where we are at this moment in our history. we are worried about it. what we believe in, we know what made this country great, we know what we need to do to get back on track. consensus and the a majority of the country ready to do it. do? do we how to redo this? how to put this thing back together before it is too late? you can tell by my name i am an irish person. i get to go to this great lunch every year with the irish prime minister right before st. patrick's day in the capital. story about this these three irish brothers who asted to go to war to fight

our allies. of those saving private ryan stories. they won't let all the pores of the family services in time. the two older ones got to go to the other one drove them down to cork to see them off. as the youngest brother saw them off, he said i'm going to have a pint of guinness in your name as if i were with the three of each -- to through this together every day. every afternoon this young man would go in the pub, he would call for three genesis, line them up right in front of him -- this is ireland, by the way. he recorded three genesis and drink them simultaneously. he did this for three or four weeks and the pub owner thought it was strange. he asked him what he was doing. he said my brothers are off fighting in war, and i committed that i would have a pint each of every one of them in their

absence until the return safely. then a couple of weeks go by and he comes in the pub and he orders two pints of guinness. everybody's whispering, looking at him. pub owner comes over and says, well, i'm really sorry about your brother. he says what you mean? i just gave up year for lent. beer for lent. [applause] there is a moral to this story. as much as an irish guy likes to tell iris chokes, this is the lenten season. i am a catholic, so you have to give up something during lent. let's try to give up the infighting, let's give up the tunnel vision, let's give up the acrimony. that ourloves to say

party is in this big civil war, that we are tearing each other apart. i don't see it that way. great candidates, all of these people. talked about the same ideals and principles and policies. pick the person you like best, fight really hard for that , atidate, and at the end the end of your primary, unify. [applause] to flip over to scotland, to borrow a phrase mel gibson made famous in braveheart, we need to unite the clans. here is my point and i say this. -- here is my point when i say this. bullet ort a silver one bill we can pass.

we can't just bluster or twist arms and force it through. it is going to take a lot of work. the answer lies in the hard work of politics. better arguments, better alternatives, better outreach. focus on persuading, less focus on purging. here is the key deal -- those of us who seek your support, who seek these positions of leadership, who wants to lead you, our employers, a very specific vision. sometimes in politics it is hard to tell who is here for a career and who is here for a cause. the way to distinguish those who are simply incoming tax collectors of the welfare state, is to hold them accountable for who they are, what they say they believe in, and if they do it, that is the key. we need to spell out a specific vision.

here is, using our birth , this great operating system, roadmap, operating manual, the constitution, how we get this country back on track. here's a clear set of principles , here is a clear operating manual, here is an actual plan. this is the horizon we are shooting for, right there. here's how i choose to do it. some days, we will take small steps in that direction. other days we will take big leaps. that is what prudence is. the sailors don't curse wind, the user to their advantage to get to their destination. moment look back at this , we have got to make sure that we send men and women who have principles,who have and who actually have a plan so

that we can hold them accountable to it. that is really important. but we have to remember, at the end of the day, this is about winning converts, this is about persuading. i think we have really good opportunity. you know why? go to the barrios of western san antonio, go to the inner city in chicago, go to rural oklahoma. come to rural wisconsin, come to the broken factory towns we have in southeastern wisconsin. everybody says the same thing. it is not working. we have to show we have better ideas for all these afflictions. these principles that made this country great are timeless principles. they are not passe. liberal progressives have overplayed their hand. they want us to delegate our power and authority to some nameless, faceless bureaucrat who can better harmonize our lives for us. we now know that it does not work.

and say,e to go back here's our plan to balance the budget, here's our plan to pay off the debt. --e's how we would get here's how we can have millions of energy jobs in this country by just getting the government out of stopping the government from stopping this great energy boom from happening. here's how you have a strong military, here's how you have in america in the world that has respect. here's how you successfully fight poverty, not by managing poverty but going at the root causes of poverty to get people out of it in the first place. we believe in outcomes. the goodo be not just opposition party, we have to be a great alternative party. we have to show that these ideas in these principles which made us so great in the first place, which we just swore allegiance to and we pledged, are as relevant and important today as

they ever were before. that is a day that i think is coming. because everybody knows we are on the wrong track. sitting on my front porch, old and gray with my granddaughter on my knee, i don't want to tell her, yeah, the country went down the tubes, america is a has been heard it was a great nation, but i want you to know i voted against it every step of the way. that is not good enough. this is why we all have to get in the arena. this is why we have to unite at the end of the day. this is why the creative tension that is occurring in our party is more about tactics and about principles and policies. if there's anything i want to leave you with, focus on the big picture, on the big idea, we know who we are, we know what made her country great, we know what will restore this country. we would disagree from time to time on tactics, but this party is a big tent party.

the tallest pole holding up that tenant is self-determination. economic freedom, liberty, free enterprise, self-determination. as who we are, that is why our veterans fought for it in the first place, and if we get that done, we will save this country. iowans, you have a unique and disproportionate influence in all of this. thank you for your doing, thank you for helping these candidates, and thank you for the unification that will be coming after these primaries. thank everybody and have a great night. i appreciate it. ♪ [applause] >> thank you, congressman ryan.

on behalf of of the chairman of these central committee, you are dismissed. thank you. [applause] ♪ [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014]

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[laughter] >> she is her cousin. >> oh, ok. is that what you are friends? [laughter] turnaround. look this way. [indiscernible] oh, here you go. nice seeing you. >> thank you. >> thanks for coming. thanks for coming out. appreciate it. >> it is my pleasure. [indiscernible] >> yeah. i wanted to see you last time around. i got invited to one of your events. it was actually a lady who was there at the district convention. i did not get -- >> where are you from? >> now i am in dallas county.

a little west of town. >> i do a lot of events here. >> this was by de soto, out and -- out in one of the fields. you know what, -- it was. it was in an enclosure. i showed up. i was all dressed up, which i never do. i show up here, and it is like tumbleweeds. [laughter] but it was great. glad you came out. thank you for working for us. >> awesome. awesome. >> [indiscernible] >> absolutely. who is taking it? [indiscernible] >> thank you very much. >> thanks. appreciate it. >> can i get a picture? >> yeah. >> did you speak at columbia college?

>> [indiscernible] >> you did great. [laughter] >> yeah, you bet. [indiscernible] [indiscernible] [laughter] sent already -- >> ready? >> [indiscernible] >> what do you teach? >> economics. >> micro, micro? macro? >> both. >> josh. [indiscernible]

>> oh, good grief. [laughter] come on, dave. >> all right. >> thank you. >> [indiscernible] >> they are very good friends. >> perfect. >> [indiscernible] >> madison? that is out of my district, but pretty close by. >> [indiscernible] she speaks very highly of you. >> thank you. >> keep crunching those numbers. >> thank you. i will. [indiscernible] >> there you are. >> thank you so much. [laughter]

>> do you ever take pictures just to make my friends matt? [indiscernible] thanks. good to have you. >> thank you. >> [indiscernible] >> oh, you do? >> you are such an inspiration. >> [indiscernible] >> hi. >> what is your name? >> britney. i'm in high school. >> [indiscernible] yeah, yeah, yeah. >> thank you so much. so much. >> thank you. >> [indiscernible]

>> could we take one more? >> do what? >> you have got to flip it around. >> i am a lengthy person. i think we got three of them. >> we got it. thank you so much. >> what is your name? >> [indiscernible] >> yeah, i will tell you -- we just -- we just got a win. you have two years left of his administration. we just need to win the white house.

>> [indiscernible] >> congressman mike moore. i am running for state senate. >> state senate? where? >> thank you so much for coming. >> southeast iowa. >> yeah. good to be here. >> oh, you don't have it? oh. >> got it. >> you get it? >> i appreciate it. >> good luck. good luck to you guys. appreciate it. good luck to you. >> [indiscernible] >> i was going to ask you, what do you practice? >> psychology. >> [indiscernible] [laughter]

[indiscernible] >> i am just going to blink. >> thank you. nice to see you. >> nice to meet you. we really appreciate it. >> what is your name? >> stephen falls. >> stephen, nice to meet you. [indiscernible] >> i am graduated. university of iowa. [indiscernible] >> thanks a lot, man. >> [indiscernible]

>> great. [indiscernible] >> yeah. [indiscernible] >> there you go. >> the luck. thank you very much. -- good luck. thank you very much. >> [indiscernible] [laughter] i am a junior delegate. >> oh, is that what you're doing? cool. >> [indiscernible] >> make sure you get a good sense of it before you commit.

i always tell people, it is not exactly what you think it is. to be a delegate, it is a great way to get a sense of it. >> [indiscernible] >> all, you have a feel for it. >> [indiscernible] >> do you want to do a pic? [laughter] >> i know. [indiscernible] [laughter] >> yeah, but it worked, though. >> thank you. very cool. >> [indiscernible] >> i am half. i am half german, half irish. you've got a new job. thank you. what county are you from? >> my dad was in world war ii -- >> what county, county in ireland?

>> [indiscernible] >> oh, my family is from kilkenny. >> that is where my family is from. >> what side? the horse thieves or the pig thieves? >> [indiscernible] 1970, 1978. they came down from kilkenny. >> if you go back again, it is completely different. it has changed a lot. >> [indiscernible] if you run for president, we will support you. >> thank you very much. >> it would be great to get a photo with you -- >> [indiscernible] >> come in here. >> who has a good camera? >> ok. 1, 2, 3.

[laughter] >> that one looks like a good one. >> it used to be -- >> oh, i know. yeah, yeah. are you in these state senate here? >> yeah, i am in northeast iowa. >> where a bit -- whereabouts? >> northeast of your. -- northeast of dubuque. [laughter] >> that is not too far. do you know where -- valley is? i used to do a lot of hunting over there.