can still resonate, especially in a state like mississippi where they rely on a lot of government funding. i talked to haley barbour right after cochran fell behind and wound up going into that runoff. he says we need to remind people that even democrats in the state who can vote, because it is an open primary, that chris mcdaniel, the tea party opponent, is against federal funding for education. the problem for them is, is the republican base, is the republican party at that point right now where they can make this message? , thereama, common core was an article written up about how that is what has been firing up the base there. in virginia --aw those two issues. is this going to be an election where a candidate says i bring home federal funds, you want me to be there -- that's going to be a key question. also whether or not thad cochran

-- he has not shown that he is completely on top of everything in the past couple of weeks. his first article saying he didn't remember who she was after she had interviewed him a half-hour earlier. you saw an interview this week on fox where he didn't know what happened in the air at cantor race and says he wasn't following -- in the eric cantor race and says he wasn't following what was happening. this could be very problematic. host: not getting a 50% threshold in mississippi. [video clip] toit's sad what happened thad cochran. he has served well. but after five decades, he has lost touch. in washington, he votes with the liberals on spending, on judges, even on funding obamacare. refuses toppi, he debate, hides from voters, and throws mud. thad cochran is entitled to respect. he is not entitled to a lifetime seat in the senate.

action isrowth responsible for this advertising. host: what can we expect on tuesday? guest: we can expect a guy in that mcdaniel who has said -- who has embraced that david brat win over eric cantor. that campaign message -- we've seen that before. that played in several races in 2010 against senior house committee chairman -- guys like overstark. they had been around for a while. they have done a great service. thanks, cheers, it's time to go on. it was a very effective message in those races. it is one that, frankly, a lot of senior people haven't figured out how to rebut. it has been run time and again quite successfully. article, the fox appearance -- those hit back at thad cochran's message.

his key point is i can do things. when he looks lost on the campaign trail, it undermines his key reelection pionts -- poi nts. one of the things the profiles are missing is that thad cochran has, quite frankly, a very senior staff that has been able to do a lot of things. thad cochran held up the thorn built to make sure -- thorn -- the farm bill to make sure there was a program for mississippi. when he goes on the trail and looks a little bit lost, it really hits at that key argument that he has to sell to get his seat. , that's our585-3881 line for republicans. (202) 585-3880, for democrats. we welcome your e-mail at journal@c-span.org. let me ask you to set up thursday's vote. a lot of back and forth. sessions is in, sessions is out.

itwe speak at the moment, looks like kevin mccarthy will be the next republican leader. guest: prohibitive front-runner right now. labrador got in late after mccarthy had set up what his folks will tell you is a majority of people. the old adage always goes that the only person you can count on is someone who says i'm not with you now and i'm never going to be with you. mccarthy has lined up a lot of support from powerful committee chairman. he is seen as an heir apparent. it would be a promotion. there are a string of republicans i've talked to who have said, look, this is a continuity issue. this does not mean that he gets it for the 114th congress. this just means he gets it for for the restgress, of it. steve scalise has a built-in base of support. peter roskam, the chief deputy whip, is making a job -- an

argument that he is doing the job harshly already. already.b partially and then the guy from indiana. it is a wide-open race. it could be very interesting. host: domenico montanaro, let me share you -- share with you this. "mccarthy's personality is one of his greatest strengths. he is surely the best light republican in the house -- the best liked republican in the house, at least among republicans. in two thousand six along with peter roskam of illinois and michele bachmann of minnesota. for two decades, he worked for bill thomas, a brainy gop house member, and ran his california office. the question is, how conservative is he? he is not a tea party

republican, libertarian, or a neocon." there are a lot of tea party members who are not sold on this leadership team, because none of them are from states that are in the south where the republican base is, at this poin t. -- he is of labrador probably more liberal than eric cantor on immigration. he was one of the gang of eight trying to negotiate on this until he walked away. mccarthy has showed some openness on immigration. no one is going to act on it now because the rest of the congress is so -- so much so has to look over their shoulders for doing anything on it. mccarthy will be somebody similar to eric cantor. they were friends. the dissension will remain within the republican conference. host: from north carolina, good morning. caller: c-span guests and

america, good morning. host: good to hear from you. caller: if it was any better, i would be greedy. veteran.etnam era please allow me as much time as you did the gentleman from west virginia. it appears to me that reporters nowadays on news media are stenographers. they don't report anything. let me give you an example. you had rand paul saying -- boasting about how he had chastised hillary clinton for not reading cables. anybody who knows anything about civics knows good and well that is something that happens with the undersecretary or below. not only that, if these reporters pulled the senate report in january, 20 14, at the bottom of page 20, top of page one he won, it says ambassador page 21,efused -- of it says ambassador crocker refused security.

host: i didn't chastise him. he had the last word. i just told him that i thought he was wrong. i knew he was wrong. caller: you disagreed with him. what i'm asking you to do is prove it. would probablye be considered neutral. if you bring somebody from "wall street journal," or "new york times," you know they would be biased. american soldiers, godspeed to all of you. thank god for you. host: he hung up. i was going to let you have the last word. the great thing about this network is that everything we cover, every word, every frame of video is all available online at c-span.org. if you feel there is an agenda, let us know.

i just respectfully disagree. we have a different mission. thank you for the call. did you want to weigh in? guest: people have their passions on these issues, absolutely. i think that we do try to do our homework. he clearly did his homework. i'm glad he pulled the report and was able to cite things. that is the job of a journalist. maybe he should start a blog. host: we will go to joe in oxford, georgia. good morning, independent line. >caller: how are you this morning? host: fine, how are you? caller: i don't think hillary or elizabeth warren will have a chance to be president. i spent time in brazil. this sustainable development -- all mexicanshave in here so they can rule. they are working with --

it is treasonous. these people ought to be put up on treason charges and found guilty, probably put to death for treason on this country. you wouldn't believe what is in these videos. host: what is your source of information on this? caller: c-span. c-span took them down after 2012. i have the numbers on the videos if you will give me a minute to get them. it is sustainable development. foley. earth institute. north carolina chappel hil -- chapel hill. national geographic. --ey're talking about host: let me take his point in the larger issue of foreign policy and what yesterday, bobby

jindal, who is likely to run for president, speaking at the iowa republican party convention in des moines, had to say. [video clip] i thought long and hard about what i want to share with you today. i want to share with you my greatest concern, my greatest frustration, my greatest fear of the obama administration and his legacy. there is so much that worries me about president obama. i worry about $17 trillion of debt. i worry about an epa that will strangle our economy. i worry about more taxing, spending, borrowing. i worry about a diminished america on the world stage. i worry about economic growth of 2% that he calls recovery. me theng that worries most, not only as the governor of louisiana, but as the father of three young children, is this president's attempt to redefine the american dream. by that? do i mean

if you listen to this president long enough, if you watch his policies, what you hear, what you see is a focus on class envy. what you hear and what you see is a president intent on dividing us by geography, by age, by gender, by success. what you see is a president who talks about redistribution -- a president who seems to believe that america is about equality of outcomes instead of equality of opportunity. i don't know about you, but that is not the american dream my parents taught me about. the american dream is not about growing the federal government, growing its taxes, it's spending. the american dream is not about managing the slow decline of the great economy of this great country. the american dream is not about making us more and more like europe. host: domenico montanaro, that seems to be the theme we are hearing from republicans taking aim at the president and hillary clinton, foreign policy, the economy. guest: those of the two issues we are dealing with right now.

what you don't hear about his health care. it is interesting. that seems to have shifted a bit, especially when we look at this midterm. you have so many issues now as a hotbed on the foreign-policy front that the president having to do with that is -- seems to be the avenue where rep opponent -- where republicans are able to hit the president for being weak. the economy is not gangbusters, but it has been pretty even and down from a high of 10.8% unemployment to about 6.3% now. foreign policy is where republicans think they can hit the president, calling him weak, worse than jimmy carter almost is what they are saying. -- : the cleanout fundingknow cantor was local gop party housekeeping to cleanout tea party/paul anti-neocon leadership? guest: before he had his battle

over leadership in the local republican party -- he lost that battle. it was one of those things that i think people after the fact have been saying, maybe we should have paid a little bit more attention to that. it was one of those inner party ner-party battles that was kind of on a small scale. there were no polls suggesting he was in trouble. his internal had him up to 34. up 34 inee how you are your internal and down 11 in the actual. the only neutral pole was up, like, 11 or 12. it was a surprise. that was only if there was a canary in the coal mine. that was probably the only one there. i've seen it happen in couple of times and it did not translate on the electoral scale. host: your former colleagues --d the impact of the poll

it did suppress the cantor people. if he is going to win by that margin, no need to show up. guest: we had a reporter at the strawberry fair. our reporter said, you know, bra t got there in the morning, 10:00 a.m., when the doors opened, he shook every hand in the place. eric cantor kind of breezed through five hours later. there weren't even strawberries anymore. he thought the race was no big deal. you saw the stats. they spent more on steak than brat spent on his entire campaign. we rely so much on polling. there hasn't been a lot of good polls. you would think the internal poll would be better. that is by anecdotal reporting. still, pretty underrated. we do need to be out there and talk to people. big thing with that

internal poll is that the internal poll is used not just a leak to the media and go, oh, well, this is a joke race. the point is to see where you are with your own strategy. if you think you are up 34, what you are playing for is margin of victory. can i getaying to see above 60, can i set myself up for a possible leadership thing later? cantor was the heir apparent to boehner. if his internals had showed him he's5, up 1, up 10, running a different race. if it is up 34, you run the race that eric cantor ran. you try not to mess up. you try not to give yourself opportunities to take a winnable race and throw it away. guest: they think it was democrats that swayed the race. they say the eric cantor's campaign manager came out and said, there have to be 15,000

democrats who voted. the problem for the party is if they continue to have this kind of denial attitude that there wasn't something that actually happened, it was just democratic didn'tg, president obama legitimately win in 2012, it was voter fraud -- if they continue to have that kind of attitude, you don't fix the problems that do have electoral consequences. host: all the attention on randolph macon college. two candidates from the same college in the seventh congressional district. our guests, derek wallbank of bloomberg news and domenico montanaro of the pbs newshour. we welcome our listeners on c-span radio heard coast-to-coast. good morning. caller: good morning to you. i just would like to know from your guests what hillary's credentials exactly are, what her accomplishments were when she was secretary of state.

pressing reset buttons with russia didn't seem to work. putin just laughed at it. we see the middle east blowing up. so, what policy positions does she actually have? guest: i think in a lot of ways she will say she pushed for smart power. that is her philosophy of how you go about foreign-policy. i think there are a lot of avenues for republicans to try and hit back on hillary clinton, as you've already seen, and as your guest just noted. i do think that from secretary of state to senator to having been in the white house, she is somebody who is widely known. i think that name identification is a big issue when it comes to presidential politics. that is why you are sucking her lead in so many polls. -- you are seeing her lead in so many polls. caller: good morning and happy

father's day. i wanted to say first of all that i think hillary is extremely out of touch. she may have name recognition. however, as a woman who has, her whole life, voted across party lines for any woman, she is one that i would not vote for, especially not for commander in chief. anybody who is that clueless about her so-called, suppose it safety and security on the anniversary date of 9/11 is not fit to be commander-in-chief. i would like to see ben carson run for president. i think he would make a measured, intelligent person who could maybe straighten out our health care system. and i do believe that we need to have -- border know what kind of

security, but something has got to be done. this has just gotten crazy and insane, what's going on down there. it is terrible. host: are you a republican or independent? caller: i was always a lifelong democrat until right after 9/11. that gore was god not in office when that happened. host: can i ask you a question? one of the stories driving the weekend was in "the washington post" and "the l.a. times," about mitt romney who criticizes clinton as a candidate. the record has been extraordinarily lacking and ineffective. it is hard to think of a place in the world where our foreign-policy interest were enhanced by virtue of her serving as secretary of state. your thoughts on his comments? some speculate on a third

presidential bid in 2016. caller: actually, i didn't know much about him when he started. as i started watching him as a person, i felt like he was a good, decent human being and would do the best he could for the country. however, i don't think he has a chance, but i do fully agree with everything he has to say about hillary. i also might like to point out that he was correct in everything that he rebutted obama about during the debates. host: thanks for the call. domenico montanaro, react to the call. portman,, senator rob mike huckabee, senator rand paul, all mingling with romney donors. guest: so is brian schweitzer, the one democrat who could possibly run against hillary clinton, which is interesting. what is interesting about the you talk about the 9/11 switch for her from democrat to more hawkish

security, she is what the bush people would have identified as a security mom. that's what they felt were the swing voters in 2000 and 2004. there is that pocket of who they see as a suburban security mom, who they feel like is a group open to a republican message, especially on national security. outink as was pointed earlier, polling across the board has shown the world weariness that less lines up with doing more and more lining up with doing less. host: mitt, 2016? guest: i just think that is a fantasy. it is fun to say, it looks like he is thinking more about running than before, but i think this is about legacy. if you watch the mitt documentary, it got under their skin. they felt like they were made to

be a joke. he feels like his family -- he is a guy who is really successful in business, turned around a lot of companies, and feels like he is a real thought leader. i think that's what he wants to be. host: this is from jan. eric cantor's loss should be a warning -- a wake-up call to all politicians. don't get comfortable, work for every vote. guest: true. all,u are in politics at whatever you want to do in washington, whatever committee you want to chair, whatever leadership position you aspire to hold, it all depends on coming back. if you are not here, you cannot win. host: a lot of speculation on the quickness of the vote for house republican leader. [video clip] >> i do think the members are going to make this decision. we are going to do it next week. i'm sure some will argue it is too soon, some will argue it is too long.

but it is important we resolve this issue in a fair amount of time so that we can do the work that we were it left it to do. and so, the members will -- we were elected to do. and so, the members will make a decision. >> do you want kevin mccarthy at your side? otherork with all 434 members of congress before. i can work with whoever gets elected. host: did you want to weigh in on those points? guest: there is no question that holding an election quicker helps mccarthy. when i was talking to pete sessions -- ultimately decided not to run. he was running for a couple of hours. we were talking with him on the floor of the capitol after he came out of lunch with the texas delegation, which endorsed him, the biggest state delegation for republicans. sessions was asked if he wanted

more time. he said, sure, i would have liked more time to be able to run this. sessions eventually drops out. there is no question that people who are a little bit nervous about having somebody who is seen as being in the leadership establishment -- they would have liked a longer campaign. they would have liked for the club for growth and heritage to be able to play a little bit more, to have people start getting fire under their feet. mccarthy moved very fast to consolidate his position. he was working on this from pretty much tuesday night, the second they realized eric cantor was going down. they had two outstanding whips going on, one on the agricultural bill and one on the highway funding measure. i don't know what the results of those are. what has been going on since, eric cantor, in absolute shock and mccarthy's folks got in gear

real fast. by wednesday, you saw a bunch of key people in mccarthy's camp ready to go, ready to commit their political will. he moved lightning fast. he had a bunch of support locked up before other people were in or out. guest: it helps to be the whip. you have the private phone number and e-mail. you can organize a campaign much quicker than any opponent could. host: and there is this tweet from james who says, "mitt out romneyt turns was right about everything obama is wrong about." there was this influx of -- the your guests addressed southern border and the influx of children, or has the administration instructed media not to discuss? guest: we will have a piece on the border this week about these unaccompanied children that are coming in. i was on a conference call at

the white house earlier this week. what they point to is not that there is a magnet because there is some openness from president obama on immigration reform. if you look at the murder rates in countries like honduras, el are the highest in the world because of the increased drug trafficking there and what is happening in those countries. people are being flushed out of those countries. four reasons why people like my father came to this country -- they come here because they see the united states as somewhere you can be free and there is economic opportunity and there might be some family connection. that is why you are seeing this influx. what the white house points to is, they will say, if it was the case that it was the immigration openness from obama, you would see more people from countries like mexico, which are contiguous, and places like nicaragua and costa rica. you are just not seeing that as much as you are from honduras,

el salvador. host: dolores is joining us from mcminnville. caller: good morning. happy father's day to everyone. the reason i'm calling is because i'm very concerned as a tennessee resident about obamacare, which i think is a good thing. i love president obama. i respect him. i wish some of the republicans would start working with him and show a little more respect to our president of the united states. have republican congressmen, republican governor. governor haslam. not exceptingthem obamacare, taking on the medicaid. it is going to cause our hospitals to close down in rural ourties, which 70% of hospitals are in the rural counties, even the ceo of river

park hospital is concerned that they are not making enough money because they don't have medicaid patients. and i think it is a crying shame that because they don't like obama, they are not going to accept medicaid for the state of tennessee. host: thanks very much for the call. we are seeing that in virginia as well. guest: you're seeing this across the country. republican states are places where you are not seeing medicaid expanded and where you are seeing it fought. i've written about this on pbs. i think the only time you are really going to see the health care law become a net positive is when you do have a republican president who decides to say this isn't going anywhere, we are going to try to fix it. because we are republican, we will show how it is going to be managed better. make some sort of message that

way and you bring people over on the republican side to let the antipathy -- as long as president obama is president, you will see this split and probably as a net negative. host: we covered a moment online. he traveled to angel stadium in to deliverlifornia, the commencement address to uc irvine. this is the headline this morning. he madeery end, reference to something he talked about in 2004 and at the keynote -- the theme of his campaign, hope and change. [video clip] >> cynicism has never won a war or started a business or fed a young mind or sent men into space. cynicism is a choice. hope is a better choice. hope is what gave young soldiers the courage to storm a beach and liberate people they had never

met. studentshat gave young the strength to sit in and stand up and march for women's rights and civil rights and voting rights and gay rights and immigration rights. against allbelief evidence to the contrary that there are better days ahead and that together we can build up a middle class and reshape our immigration system and shield our children from gun violence and sheltered future generations from the ravages of climate change. today thee fact that single largest age group in america is 22-year-olds who are all just itching to reshape this country and reshape the world, and i cannot wait to see what you do tomorrow. host: uc irvine yesterday. guest: i think part of the problem for the president in these last couple of years, and what happens to a lot of presidents, that hope, that positivity fades. beendent obama has somebody who has talked about hope and change since 1991.

all the way back then, we dug up an old video of him when he was at harvard, on a panel talking about how people in the inner-city don't have hope. i think this comes from a little bit of a defensive point of view at this point in his presidency, where he is trying to fire up young voters, get them to understand that, even beyond his presidency, he wants to see his legacy carried out, especially on climate change, some of what they are doing with the executive orders. host: this from one of our viewers, bill saying, "hope? yes, indeed. 92 million now out of the workforce and actually 19 million unemployed." caller: good morning. happy father's day to all of the fathers. y'all are supposed to be newscasters. i want you to answer a question. this is the best we got. the world cup started thursday.

and all them people are running around on that field spelling brazil wrong. it is with a z, not an s. why y'all don't catch it? y'all don't catch nothing. guest: to your point, they spell it with an "s" in brazil. in american english, we spell it with a z. that, i think, is the reason. let me say in a moment of mourning, domenico's team beat my team yesterday morning. speaking to the point the president made in that commencement address, the whole thing -- it has been his message for a while. the audience that he is speaking to is dealing with a new challenge. the new challenge that audience

is dealing with is $1.2 trillion worth of student loan debt. this is one thing the democratic party has had a struggle to try and figure out how to fully solve. were younger voters instrumental in the president getting in, but you're not seeing that necessarily continue on to the people who are in that 18-year-old to 25-year-old range right now. i think part of that is because they are saddled with debt. he is talking into people who are coming out some time with their equivalent -- with the equivalent of a mortgage in student loan debt. host: we have just a few minutes left. i want to put a couple of other issues on the table. looking at the past 25 years. take clintondents as the most admired president decades,last 2 1/2

followed by president obama, president george bush -- george w. bush, and his father, george herbert walker bush. guest: it becomes a difficult situation. in the second term, we always see numbers drop. when you look at the midterms, that could have real potential problems for democrats, when you look at those coattails and the lack of the coattail. especially because of where these races are being run. apublicans, however, you have couple of potential problems, in two names in particular, mark pryor and they ditch -- and beg ich. they are both winning their races, with a lot of time to go. host: "this hope thing is such old news." did you want to weigh in? guest: this is one of the difficulties the administration has. how do you continue to try and

run a campaign-style inspirational thing for six years, seven years? when you take years -- at some point, there is a policy thing that goes on. i think the legacy that this president is going to have is how well his signature health care law works. it was in the health care law that he wanted originally, but it is the one he wound up getting. it in popular talk. -- it has his name on it in popular talk. i think he hopes this health care law works as well as he hopes it will. host: from chula vista, california, charles is on the line. good sunday morning to you. caller: happy father's day to everyone out there. i'm calling because my major concern, like your color with the comment -- your caller with the comment about brazil and folks nominating president clinton as their favorite president -- our country needs to get

educated. i think if people were to bring themselves up to date on what is really happening in washington and look at the problems that have been exasperated by our current president, then it wouldn't take much to convince them that what is happening right now is not working. our country is the greatest country in the world. right now, we are the but of jokes from the international community. we need to educate our voters, have them get their stuff together, and then go vote intelligently, instead of voting for somebody because they are a woman or because they are black. we are talking about the most powerful man in the free world, and we are voting for them for all the free -- the wrong reasons. i think we need to take that seriously. and see whatolls happens. host: do you have an early favorite so far? caller: i like ben carson.

and it is not because he is black or not black, because i think he is best qualified. he is pretty sound. it is just my opinion, just my feelings about the way this country needs to go and the direction we are not going right now. host: thanks for the call. let me put another potential candidate on the table. rick santorum, the former pennsylvania senator, who spoke at the iowa republican party state convention. it is on our website at c-span.org. he brought up the issue of marriage and morality. here is rick santorum. [video clip] >> yet, where are we as republicans? i'm not talking about going out and fighting the battle of redefining marriage. i'm talking about the battle of reclaiming marriage as an institution that we should be promoting in america. [applause] we have lost the marriage debate in america for one reason -- the cause, during our watch,

marriage has been redefined. marriage is now, by most simply acalibration, romantic relationship between two people that the government of firms. ladies and gentlemen, if that is all marriage is, then, as far as i'm concerned, everybody should be able to get married. that's not what marriage is. at least that's not what it used to be. marriage used to be the union of a man and woman for the purpose of coming together to have children, to raise the next generation, and give every child in america their birthright am a to be raised by their natural mother and natural father. play how does that message out in iowa specifically for rick santorum if he runs for president in 2016 and among the party base generally? guest: pretty good. he won it last time, iowa. hot speech,nd of he is still thinking about running. i think we will see a lot of those same folks who ran last time and some other people

thinking about testing the waters these time around. you could have another long, protracted republican primary where you have lived the -- have the d&c following them around, listening for those one or two -- the dnc following them around, listening for those one or two bites. hillary clinton doesn't have to worry about her base as much. host: this hope message getting a lot of attention on our twitter page. one of our viewers saying "we reform, immigration higher minimum wage, voter rights legislation, etc.." caller: i have the same hope. you guys do a great job. host: and bloomberg news. we appreciate the them as well. theer: i do want to applaud young lady from tennessee that

.alled the real reason i was calling was in response to mr. romney's challenge to name anyplace where our relationship has been enhanced by the term of -- halfld think -- point to of the world population. women and young girls. also, i would have to name places where disasters have taken place. usaid has been in the forefront of recovery -- haiti, indonesia, sri lanka. even beyond that, in the political sense, i think the relationship has been well enhanced, well beyond what we faced with mr. bush, in places like asia, latin america, and africa. host: ok. who would like to take back? -- take that?

guest: i think that is one of the key things that hillary clinton tried to do. when she was secretary of state, she tried to go to as many places as she possibly could. she broke records for her amount of travel. her big initiative was to try and elevate women and the poor around the world. and i think that is where she wanted her legacy to wind up. i think you will wind up seeing her talk a lot about that as she goes forward. host: back to your earlier point, this is from "cq weekly," thrones" is the headline. cantor as eric majority leader this week is a short term price. -- prize." on kmployed as lobbyists street -

-- on k street. the question is how wealthy does eric cantor want to be. guest: we went through the financial disclosure forms. he is the wealthiest member -- republican member of the house leadership. by not a small margin. and he is the sort of person who is very well-connected on wall street. for wall intro point street folks who are looking to make gains with republicans. he is going to go away. job, wants a wall street if he wants to do consulting for that sort of thing, he can set up a printer in his house and just start printing off the $100 bills, because that's what's going to happen. or he could keep his political options and he could be the first person mentioned in the commonwealth of virginia for governor, senator, anything like that. this is the sort of world that eric cantor has to navigate.

if he wants to take the money now, those future options might close themselves. it is a question for him and then open one, -- and an open one still. host: conversely, kevin mccarthy. does he still sleep in his office? guest: he does. kevin mccarthy has some fairly well-off friends. he is buddies with elon musk of tesla. he is not nearly as well off as cantor is. most of his money in sort of broad funds. he is not looking to move up. why? guest: because she couldn't. she initially said she was keeping her options open for majority leader and with. -- whip. both of those closed fairly quickly. republicans continue to have a woman in their top four, which is something boehner felt was very important. mcmorris rodgers --

i think the other thing you have to look at is, like jeb hensarling, who said he wasn't going to run, mcmorris rodgers has very young children as well. the additional job that you have, the additional responsibility is actually quite a lot. i think in both of those cases, hence are laying and mcmorris rodgers -- hensarling and mcmorris rodgers, that might have played as well. guest: i think you need to keep someone like mcmorris rodgers in service. when you look at the 2016 field, women are not something to be overlooked in this next election. they have made up 53% of the electorate. hillary will make that appeal very clear. just as one caller mentioned

that african-americans voted overwhelmingly for president obama, and they normally do for democrats anyway, with the first woman running, and you have a lot of women who have come through the feminist movement -- they are going to be as fired up to get to those polls. host: good morning. thanks for waiting. caller: good morning. the american people got what they deserved by voting for who they have over the years. doggone wars. i'm going to go for elizabeth warren or bernie sanders, because i'm tired of my jobs being outsourced overseas. we have to get jobs to. we have to protect everybody. i just don't understand it. i heard germany is threatening to undo trade with america because of the workers rights we have. we have no workers rights. we are an oligarchy. we are rich people. host: how does the president

thread the needle? knowing that if iraq does fall into enemy hands and mala key is forced out in some way, then he will be blamed for the -- and maliki is forced out in some way, then he will be blamed for the situation in iraq. he was an early critic of the war in iraq. guest: absolutely, calling it a dumb war. he has tried to stick to the message he had in the rose garden the other day. essentially, this is -- this wasn't a war that he wanted to wage in the first place. it has been wound down. fromneed to stop isis getting closer and maybe work some back channels, figure out what the nonmilitary options are. it is very difficult, i think the white house believes, to bomb or do any airstrikes as maliki has wanted in the western

part of the country and as some republicans have advocated for, because you see that mixing of the sunni population, who are on trusting of the maliki government. host: chuck hagel had some harsh questions from house leaders now that sergeant bowe bergdahl is back in the u.s. where does this story go next? guest: i think this story will continue. it will continue mainly because you have five people, at least four of whom had very senior taliban ties, who are now back in qatar. what they do next is going to determine a lot of what this story does. if you see any of those folks at all back in afghanistan doing anything that could be inciting or combat-related, this is going to get brought up again and again and again. sergeant birdsall -- sergeant

bergdahl, getting him back has a competition. people say we don't negotiate with terrorists. what that means is we don't have a grand tradition of negotiating with nonstate actors. it is a different world because we are fighting nonstate actors in many ways. we went to afghanistan to fight the taliban government and get continued and then we fighting the taliban. we were fighting a nonstate actor and waging a conventional war against a nonstate actor. negotiating with people we don't like -- long, storied history of that. negotiating with nonstate actors? that's the issue. tose folks being able possibly go back on the battlefield, that's where this story stays alive for years to come. host: patrick is joining us. brooklyn, new york. good morning. caller: good morning and then god for c-span -- and thank go l for c-span.

happy father's day. this is to both gentlemen. this is america and immigrants come from all countries, looking for peace, prosperity, and trying to make a better life. it is not that they all can't live here, but we want to give everybody a right to be peaceful and have a right to have freedom. all we need is a little hope. hope is and always today or tomorrow. it takes time. if the gentleman that are the reporters -- the gentlemen that are the reporters report the news honestly, people can make a decision who to vote for. host: thanks for the call. if you get through, turn the volume down. that in the many the echo we were hearing -- that eliminates the echo we were hearing a moment ago. guest: we look at what is happening. despite that winds up happening over immigration -- this fight that winds up happening over immigration. everybody acknowledges there is

a problem with immigration, but nothing weapons of getting done because of pallet can become thrown into the -- nothing winds up getting done because of how it can become thrown into the political machine. it suddenly gets turned into a political issue. the messaging war kicks in. you figure out what the political capitalizations are and nothing winds up happening. immigration -- we saw in 2005, 2006, 2007, when a republican president tried to put it forward. the problem is -- this is the third rail. we've talked about social security being the third rail. immigration is a third rail for republicans, and it is something they are going down to deal with in 2016. host: let me conclude with a look at the week ahead. the houses back this week, as is the senate -- the house is back this week, as is the senate, but all eyes are on thursday. guest: the key for c-span

watchers to note. you have one election for majority leader. if kevin mccarthy wins, you have another one for whip immediately. mccarthy being the favorite, that opens up the whip's job and that is going to be a very contested race. three people running, all of are credible candidates. it is wide open. nobody has majority support right now. it is going to be really exciting to see where it goes and fairly consequential. host: where does this put congressman steve king? he sent out this tweet, "looking for a good republican leader. those who support amnesty need not apply." guest: steve king has the difficulty that there is probably an ideal candidate out there for him and that person isn't running. i'm not sure who that ideal candidate is, frankly, if it is came more michele bachmann or somebody like that -- if it is king or michele bachmann or

somebody like that, but they are not running. there is some discontentment that somebody of their ilk isn't running. there are not many people to the right of raw labrador -- of raul labrador. he is one of 12 people who did not vote for john boehner for speaker in 2013. and if you had boehner and his top lieutenant was someone who didn't vote for him as speaker, that would be interesting. host: what are you looking for this week? guest: this leadership race is going to be kind of fascinating to watch. we will see how that goes. you have the faith and freedom coalition forum. a lot of the 2016 hopefuls will come in. mccarthy will also speak. do we see some of the sting -- steve king cost discussion -- type ofe king discussion? host: we will follow your work on the pbs website.

thank you for being with us. who follows the house leadership or bloomberg blending red and blue is the editorial. an important and troubling new study from the pew research center confirms what has been evident of american politics. differences are deeper than they have been in two decades. they are more committed to their worldviews more than they were. they consist of ideological activists, half of each party's donors revile the opposition as a threat to the nation's well-being. what else did you find in the survey and how many people did you question? guest: it was an enormous

survey. we interviewed 10,000 americans. itlook at three main topics. was the growth of ideological consistency, the growth of antipathy, the third aspect was the dimension of all this. how do people live their lives and how does polarization affect that? host: i want to show this contract -- contrast between 1994, 2004 and now. how do we get to this point? guest: it is happening in different ways and different parties. the growth of ideological people who, we mean hold consistently liberal or conservative views across a

range of issues, not just role of government. overall, it has doubled in the we see itars. happening in both parties. it happens in different ways in both hardee's. isthe republican party, it in the last decade. have had a gradual rise over 20 years. dividedngress is more and so are voters. iners are not simply parties, they are adopting more consistently liberal or conservative viewpoints. how does that play out in the public opinion and legislating in washington. this is a relatively small segment of the public. it is very influential.

these are the people who voted high rate. they contact their elected officials of high rates. they donate to campaigns at high rates. they punch above their weight politically. thisis why they have impact. host: i want to go back to this editorial. it talked about rebuilding the political center. how'd you do that? guest: the center is there. it is alive and well and we show americans have consistent views, they are mixed across many issues. these peopley is are less engaged in politics. they vote at lower rates. they are not just inclined to participate in the process. host: i wanted to elaborate on

this graph. liberals want more walkable communities. conservatives want more room. guest: that is one of the things we went after. --t do you prepare people what do people want in a community? what kind of house would they like? aberals said that they wanted you coulduse that walk to amenities. conservatives wanted a big house even if they had to drive to places. the polarization is growing. that is not a surprise. it is not affecting people's daily lives. when you look at these community

preferences, these divisions go pretty far beyond politics. they dislike each other personally's. they have very different preferences. host: he is a director >> former republican congressman tom davis of virginia talks about the influence of the tea party in 2014. former state department and national security council official will discuss u.s. military options in iraq. the caldwell will examine resources devoted to watching u.s. borders. we will take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. "washington journal," live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> q&a, with investigative

reporter lisa myers talking about her career and the state of today's media. foreign affairs hearing on afghan reconstruction efforts with special inspector general >> this week on "q&a" other uest is emmy award winning journalist and investigative reporter lisa myers who iscusses her year, state of media and her further plans. news aftery left nbc more than 30 years at the network. myers, over 30 years with nbc news, how would you today?journalism guest: i think journalism is