the speaker pro tempore: on this vote, the yeas are 397.

the speaker pro tempore: on this nays he yeas are 398, the are zero. 2/3 being in the affirmative, the rules are suspended, the bill is passed, and without objection the motion to reconsider is laid on the table.

the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. he house will be in order. for what purpose does the gentleman from florida seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to remove my name as co-sponsor from h.r. 2377. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. for what purpose does the gentleman from mississippi seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i send to the desk a privileged resolution and ask for its immediate consideration in the house. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, -- the clerk will report the resolution. the clerk: house resolution 627, resolution directing the clerk of the house of representatives to request the senate to return to the house the bill h.r. 4412 entitled, an act to authorize

the programs of the national err naughtics and space administration fnd for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, theres. solution is agreed to and the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. for what purpose does the gentleman from georgia seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i send to the desk a privilege red port from the committee on rules for filing under the rule. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title. the clerk: report to accompany house resolution 628, resolution providing for consideration of the bill h.r. 4870, make appropriations for the department of defense -- making appropriations for the department of defense for the fiscal year ending september 30, 2015, and for other purposes, and providing for consideration of the senate amendments to the bill h.r. 2230, making appropriations during a government shutdown to allow pay to members of the reserve components of the armed forces who perform inactive duty

training during such periods. the speaker pro tempore: referred to the house calendar and ordered printed. for what purpose does the gentleman from north carolina seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, i move that the house suspend the rules and pass h.r. 3765. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the title. the clerk: h.r. 3765, a bill to designate the facility of the united states postal service located at 198 baker street in corning, new york, as the specialist ryan p. jayne post office building. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the rule, the gentleman from north carolina, mr. meadows, and the gentleman from massachusetts, mr. lynch, will each control 20 minutes. the chair recognizes the gentleman from north carolina. mr. meadows: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. meadows: i ask unanimous consent that all members have five legislate i days to revise and extend their remarks and include extraneous materials on the bill under consideration. the speaker pro tempore: without

objection. mr. meadows: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today in support of h.r. 3765, introduced by representative reid of new york, which would designate the postal facility located at 198 baker street in corning, new york, as the specialist ryan p. jayne post office building. army specialist ryan jayne was killed on november -- >> mr. speaker. the house is not in order. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is correct. the house will be in order of. -- will be in order. members are advised to take their conversations off the floor. the gentleman is recognized.

mr. meadows: army specialist ryan jayne was killed on november 3, 2012, in the after -- in afghanistan when an improvised explosive device, an i.e.d., detonated while he was performing routine clearing duties with his fell he soldiers. he was killed in the samence dent that took the life of fellow upstate new yorker sergeant bret bournowitz we also honored today. specialist jayne was a member of the 479th engineering battalion of the 411th engineeringbury gade and was just 22 years old at the time of his death. ryan jayne was born may 17, 1990, in corning, new york. after graduating from corning east high school in 2008, he attended corning community college and enlisted in service in 2010. his family and loved ones described him as full of life, laughter, and the ability to

light up the room with his smile. he was an avid dallas cowboys fan and enjoyed restoring his monte carlo s.s. it is my honor to stand before this body today and pay tribute to specialist ryan jayne. this brave young man laid down his life far too soon so that we can enjoy our freedom. i ask my colleagues to join me in supporting h r. 3765 and i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. will members please take your conversations off the floor. the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. lynch: thank you, mr. speaker. i'm pleased to join my colleague, meadows of north carolina and mr. reid of new york, in the consideration of

h.r. 3765 a bill to designate the facility of the united states postal service located at 128 baker street in corning, new york, as the specialist ryan p. jayne post office building. a native of elmira, new york he, graduated in 2008 from corning east hollywood where he received the -- east high school, where he received the judy mccord award for exemplifying courage, hard work and responsibility he subsequently attended corning community college and enlisted in the united states army in 2010 in support of -- in support of operation enduring freedom in afghanistan. he was assigned to the 178th engineer battalion, 412th theater engineer command, u.s. reserve base in oswego, new york, and served as a combat engineer. as mr. meadows indicated, on november 3, 2012, specialist

jayne and two of his fellow soldiers were tragically killed when a roadside bomb hit their vehicle as they completed their route clearing duties. specialist jayne was in his second tour of duty in afghanistan when that happened. specialist ryan p. jayne's life stands as a shining example of the bravery and dedication of the heroic men and women who serve our country at home and abroad. i urge members of both sides of the aisle to support this motion authored by mr. reid of new york and championed by mr. meadows of north carolina as well. pay tribute to specialist ryan p. jayne for bravely answering the -- bravely answering the cull of duty and serving his country. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from north carolina is recognized. mr. meadows: thank you, mr. speaker. i thank the gentleman from massachusetts, congressman lynch, for his beautiful words. at this point, i would like to

yield as much time as he may consume to my distinguished colleague from the state of new york, mr. reid. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. reid: i thank the gentleman from north carolina for yielding this evening and mr. speaker, i rise today in support of my bill h.r. 3765 to rename the post office on 198 baker street in corning, new york, after pecialist ryan p. jayne. i'm so pleased to come together in a bipartisan manner to recognize in a very special way the ultimate sacrifice that specialist jayne provided for our family , for our country and for all of us as he gave at his young age of 22 years of age the ultimate sacrifice and we need to honor and recognize it here today. as has been stated, corning, new york, is my hometown and specialist ryan jayne was a

2008 graduate of corning east high school. a high school i went to. ryan was an exemplary student and it was awarded the judy mccord memorial scholarship for his courage, hard work and responsibility. following high school, he went to our local community college, corning community college, before enlisting in 2010. serving his second tour of duty in afghanistan, specialist jayne was tragically killed by an i.e.d. alongside two fellow new yorkers, two of his fellow new york soldiers that were standing with him at the time of his death. at the time of his death, he had accrued over two years of service with the u.s. army. i can tell you, mr. speaker, i was there at the memorial service, at the corning east high school auditorium and in the stadium, his death was felt throughout our entire community. but he is remembered as a passionate young man, a life-long dallas cowboy fan, as has been mentioned, and one who

loved truly spending time with his family and friends. we honor and remember specialist jayne for his sacrifices and the sacrifice of his family. actions of heroism that we will never, ever forget. naming the post office in corning, new york, after specialist jayne is the least we can do here in this body indiana this chamber this evening to honor specialist jayne's bravery, his service and his love of our country and for a love of his community, corning, new york, that he called home. i encourage all my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, let's come together, let's do what's right and stand with specialist jayne this evening and recognize the courage, the sacrifice that he provided to all of us. with that i yield back.

the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from north carolina reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. >> thank you, mr. speaker. in closing, i would just offer our prayers and condolences to the jayne family and the people of corning, new york. mr. lynch: and specialist ryan p. jayne's friends and neighbors. we all mourn their loss and we appreciate the sacrifice that's been made on behalf of our country and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the gentleman from north carolina is recognized. mr. meadows: thank you, mr. speaker. i want to thank the gentleman from new york who has taken the lead to make sure that those who give the ultimate sacrifice are not forgotten. and it is truly an honor to serve with the gentleman from massachusetts, the gentleman from new york, and i would urge all my colleagues to support this bill and i yield back the

balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the question is, will the house suspend the rules and pass the bill, h.r. 3765. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, 2/3 of those voting having responded in the affirmative, the rules are suspended, the bill is passed and, without objection, the motion to reconsider is laid on the table. the chair will now entertain requests for one-minute speeches. for what purpose does the gentleman from pennsylvania seek recognition? mr. thompson: mr. speaker, request unanimous consent to address the house for one minute, revise and extend. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. thompson: thank you, mr. speaker. i rise today to discuss an important issue that will be on the floor during debate over the department of defense appropriations for fiscal year 2015. the growing field of

telemedicine. dating back to 2011 i introduced the service members telemedicine act. this allows health professionalses to work across state lines without licenses, regard ms of where service members are located. it was an important beginning for department of defense to utilize telemedicine which is efficient, convenient and a cost-effective way to dreals the challenges of cliffer -- address the challenges of delivering services. included in the political report is language that improves upon the existing infrastructure and highlights the many advantages of utilizing telemedicine along with an encouragement of military branches to expand and prioritize these technologies. i thank the chairman of the committee for the recognition of the importance of telemedicine in delivering care to our service men and women and look forward to continuing our work to ensure our troops are getting the care that they've earned and deserved. and i yield back the balance of my time.

the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. for what purpose does the gentleman from texas seek recognition? without objection, the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. veasey: mr. speaker, i rise today in favor of diversity, equality and affirming every american's right under the constitution to equal justice under the law. and today i speak in honor of lgbt pride month. despite all that we have achieved in recent years towards equality, opportunity and justice for every american, regardless of identity or orientation, far too many americans, far too many lgbt americans still suffer discrimination each and every day. in this congress we have the chance to pass legislation that bans discrimination in the workplace, and in the military, and in schools, and ensure that couples, regardless of sexual

orientation, have the same rights as anyone else. i'm a proud co-sponsor of the respect for marriage act, that affirms the supreme court decision to allow same-sex marriage. and the student nondiscrimination act that bans discrimination in schools. i also support president to end intention to act discrimination in the workplace. let's work together to ensure that all americans are provided the civil liberties they deserve. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back the balance of his time. the chair lays before the house the following personal requests. the clerk: leave of absence requested for mr. culberson of texas for today, mr. davis of -- danny davis of illinois for june 17, mr. mulvaney of south carolina for today and tomorrow, and mr. ryan of ohio for june 11 through june 20. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the requests are granted.

for what purpose does the gentleman from pennsylvania seek recognition? mr. thompson: mr. speaker, i move that the house do now adjourn. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on the motion to adjourn. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. the motion is adopted. accordingly, the house stands adjourned untiltelevision for s.

host: norman ornstein joins us today one week after the loss of eric cantor. the headline in your news column after last week ossie's column. -- why do you think this changes things for the republican party? guest: i do not think it is particularly important. if you are a member of august, it does not matter what the data show. this is the second primary defeat with a lot of challenges.

the first was ron paul, over 90 years old. all it takes is one prime example for members to learn the less. the lesson they learned, i am afraid, is, if you vote to get the government reopened, if you vote to keep the debt ceiling going up, if you do any that operates with a rock -- with barack obama, you are in danger. we will see a party where the forces that aim for ostentation, those who basically want to blow the government and not just have a smaller one, but a non-unction in government, are in the transcendence. i call them the new nihilists. i think they are more significant now both outside and inside. it is true, a lot of people are writing the show that money and is not every in and politics

home and cantor had a huge bank, $5 million. example where it is not money over some of the other forces. a lot of big money going into republican politics is coming from people who are hostile to and are perfectly happy to have these confrontations. leave -- lead one the republican party? guest: it is difficult. for john boehner, the challenge has been there for a long time on this front. to giveoach has been his members and enormous amount of slack, a lot of rope, let them come close to hanging

themselves until they finally realize his path will not leave them in a good direction, and then finally get the votes. and it usually comes with more democrats than republicans there you can only do that so often. eric cantor for a long time was an advocate of his. in the last couple of years, they have been working more together as they realize the alternative was anarchy. that hurt cantor. whether kevin mccarty emerges as leader, or what happens with the less -- the rest of leadership, whether the outside forces are represented directly there, or if a get shut out and say, once again, we are on the outs i'm looking in, the task boehner has becomes much more challenging. host: is this a missed

opportunity for the new nihilists, as you describe them, or are they not as strong within the republican conference as perhaps the high-profile victory against cantor? >> that is a harder one to say. words what happened is the stunning defeat, when it occurred, they scheduled this vote on a very short leash. it meant that organizing to get enough votes to prevail and the caucus would not be easy to do for somebody who had not been engaged in the process he four. kevin was ready to go. of words am a for mccarthy, the great strength he had was personality. when you have got no agreement by insurgents to rally behind a

candidate, and you end up with somebody who is an and urgent among insurgents, that makes it harder. it will be interesting to watch the votes. it does not mean there really secret ballot. members have a sense of how they will go. votes emerging against mccarthy will be an interesting sign. it will be even more interesting to watch the contest. force of the republican party, the largest element is in the south. one of the challenges they have is the self old shirley is very different from the broader fabric of the country. districts are lily white or close to it. they have a different perspective on immigration issues. they are different on social and cultural issues. they are the largest force. what if you end up with a leadership that basically comes

from a swing state in ohio, a blue state in california, a blue state in illinois, which would happen if peter wins the lips and the deep red part of the conference is not represented in the top ranks of leadership? >> that is the pitch some of the others are making. but yes. we do not know how that will come out. it is a three-day race. a lot of other factors will emerge. my guess is that also complicates matters. they will take the chief deputy'whips -- deputy''s whips position. the right wing of the party and the south, very likely. it may not be enough. wehink it will be hard and do not expect much to emerge in the legislative arena very likely for two years to follow their it -- follow.

host: we are talking to norman ornstein, the author of "it is even worse than it looks." a book he wrote with a congressional scholar. he's here to talk about. cantor's the feet, what it means for ingres's and the institution. our phone lines are open. republicans can call -- we will start on our line for republicans. good morning. caller: good morning. i do not know who you are but i really dislike what you have said afar.

the defeat of cantor has nothing do it anarchy or blowing up the government or nihilism or anything of the sort. what it has to do with is an's want smaller government, much smaller. they are running a one-party party system in this country right now. meaning, if you do not back the back theyou do not form of or the big guy, and the reparations, like cantor was doing, if you do not you will be run out and called an extremist. we are not extremists. extremist have taken control of our government. they are running our government not for the benefit of the united states citizens, but for the benefit of multinational corporations.

i have not heard you say one you about the big tanks or anything like that. i just hear words about extremism and this. i do not like the rhetoric. host: you can check out his bio. guest: a lot of this emerged in the tea party movement and the occupy wall street movement as is a reaction in the aftermath of collapse. big banks and big is this. has -- big business. it is a significant part of it. no doubt david bratt, in running for virginia's seven district against. cantor, made that a significant part of his pitch, and that cantor's close ties to the business community were one

in his loss.rs i also think you could draw a between what ie think are conservatives and radicals. conservatives believe in a smaller government but there are parts of government that have to and onto run well. we have got a lot of people in congress who want to blow the whole thing up. one of the main points of distinction was whether you would shut down the government or keep it shut down. when ken for in the end as stated in getting the government -- when cantor in the end participated in getting the government shutdown, that hurt. the economic cost, that it would end up damaging homeland security, border security, national security, that we see parks closed, for the -- for example.

they were ready to let that go so they could accomplish the goal of basically returning to the 18th century or something like it. that is a real distinction here as well. those are all factors that contribute in a witches brew to the turmoil with the party. >> let's go to los angeles, california. caller: just quickly, i want to comment quickly about immigration. it drives me the. i got my green card right at the airport. in your program to find the broken immigration system? my second line, please bear with with norman.up

he is a obama surrogate and should be in the democratic artie. something for immigration progress. let's let norm talk about his background and research for a little bit, and then we can talk about the prospects for mmigration reform. guest: i started as an academic there it i thought at johns hopkins in italy, came back to the catholic university for 15 years. i have been there part-time and full-time in 1984, ever since. focus on congress but also our rotter american politics. aei is a very open is the tuition that has let me follow

my muse. at facean take to work value or whatever they want to do with it. one of your best books, can you talk about the broken branch and what that is talking about? it emerged in 2006. working in congress as congressional fellows in 1990, we had grown increasingly decline of the institution, the breakdown of the regular order their it we cast a lot of lame on both parties in that look for a branch that was not doing oversight, not appropriately carrying out its function in the legislative arena thomas not following the regular order, use things like having amendments on the floor, going to conference committees. all of those things were

breaking down. book and wedid our saw the institution changing in a different and worchester action and we put more blame on the republican side. that is because of the reality we saw, not because of partisan coloration. host: what are the prospects for immigration reform? guest: i would not say zero but the close. there are currents within both parties and within the broader political system on the issue. you have the establishment of the republican party that realizes if it does not i in a better way to reach out to a broader group of older voters, that becomingles, a majority party and winning presidential elections will become more challenging. immigration reform is not the

answer, but it is a necessary component of it. right now, it is in some trouble. a caveat here to the stark differences between conservatives and radicals, if you look at ronald, very much on the radical perspective for most things. he's in the race for majority aader, but he is also proponent of trying to find the ways lowered in what is broken with the system. the lines do not fall completely and directly. but i think the republican party any is very much against kind of movement on immigration reform, unless it involves border security. that will be a challenge for leaders who know that if they do not act on this, they will

become known as the anti-immigration party and winning over hispanic americans, asian americans, and a lot of others will be that much tougher. host: about a half hour left with norman ornstein. let's go to smitty on our line for republicans. caller: it is kind of unique one of theg that programs you are promoting is that book review on the forgotten man, back on again. i assume you are rebroadcasting it. i got the book and read it. progressives today to be liberals a couple of years ago and they like that hillary clinton described herself as a progressive from the early 20th century. progressives in the early 20th century were registered members of the american communist party. that is who they are. right wingy the

conservatives are trying to blow up the government, i am not trying to blow up a government. i just really feel uncomfortable that i have got a congressman from mississippi, missouri, johnson, voting on what kind of light olds i am allowed to use we might afraid capsize and we have too much weight from our marine battalion. these guys are idiots and we are letting them tell us what kind of like bolts we can use. this is nuts. we have tens of houses of refugees across the border, and they try to tell you the is not broken, all we need to do is fix the immigration system and we will be fine. i feel sorry they got those diseases but we made the effort to get rid of them and are reintroducing them into society. these are what progressives and liberals are doing in washington and they are socialists and communists. you just have to recognize that

and everything else makes a lot of sense. aboutdo you want to talk the history and your perspective? guest: if you look at the progressives of the earliest 20th century, they were republicans. both parties have always had and ans between a base establishment group. in the early part of the 20th century, the republican party struggle was between a roosevelte ace, teddy , wendell wilkie, tom dewey, and the like. they were not communist's. they were republicans. and a conservative base, william howard taft, robert taft, goldwater, onto ronald reagan, although he govern our more as an establishment pragmatist than anything else. when hillary clinton talks about herself as a progressive in the early of -- early 20th century, it is or more along the -- those

lines. progressives on the republican side. the struggle is between those who would be the old conservative route that i think are more radical, and on the immigration front, i think smitty reflects what is the in the tension here now republican party. on the issue. a lot of people who see immigration -- the immigration system, by every standard, is broken. it is not working. a lot of people basically want to shut off the borders and others see it in a different way and navigate through that. it is one of the great challenges. not the only, but of the great challenges both artie's in the country have. i think we are moving toward a crisis point. the other thing to keep in mind is we now have this surge in

children coming over the southern border, from central america, from countries that have an enormous level of lyrical progression. ,anting to claim refugee status we have treaties, we cannot turn them away from the border there it we are going to struggle thousands of are brokers making a lot of money by desperate families taking the money and bringing kids in their we will not be able to sustain that for any length of time. this is a really difficult problem to resolve very host: -- resolve. host: you said there is always a tension between the base and the establishment. are we seeing this in the democratic party right now on capitol hill? we are to a significantly lesser degree, but we are. one of the things that hits

every president that is a two-term president. by the sixth year, there is a reason we call it the second term blues. the base in the party gets arrested. rested.bama -- barack obama is seeing a lot of income from the democratic base their the president has the unit, though he ameliorated that now with his steps on climate change from environmentalists. what if he approves the keystone pipeline, you will see another it's lotion there. we have certainly seen -- explosion there. tremendousow with blowback, left, joined by many militaryght, on any action, including drone strikes were a lot -- or airstrikes. we see it on the suspicion obama

might cut a budget deal that would include changes on social security and medicare. it does not seem to get the headlines as much. things i will be writing about this week, and it has been out there a lot, the question of whether the polarization is asymmetric. we have a remarkable study from pew. you have at least part of it in front of you. that talks about dramatic polarization that has occurred at the public level. when you look more deeply, what is even that is asymmetric. while you have tension on the democratic side, we are in primary challenges to leaders as we have in -- seen with eric cantor. a lot of challenges with the senate now, with real questions

coming up in mississippi, chris mcdaniel:. patave a challenge to roberts. we do not have those kinds of ofllenges to the vast number democrats, including many who were more conservative to the parties ace who were running. no -- party's base. who were running. you do not see the same kinds of things. it does not mean they will not be there. if you want to look at parties that careened out of the thestream in the past, democratic party in 1890's into the early part of the 20th century. it was the democratic party again in the 19 60's and 70's as the vietnam war emerged. both sides.n on the tensions are deeper and the radicalism is greater, as it has been for a greater time on the right and the left. host: host: this is in a pew research

poll. plenty to get into on that poll if you want to check it out from pew research. joe waiting on our line for democrats in washington dc. caller: good morning. i consider myself a moderate addendum -- moderate democrat federal and -- democrat. should i be cheering for the republicans continuing to careen?

because that will negatively impact the ticket in 2016. that there actual hope moderation in either parting can bring this nation together. guest: that is a really good question. you don't want to root for the government to implode and become an effective party that cannot compete at the national level. that doesn't mean you cannot win. feel the time you would win is when things are so bad that you only time you would win is when things are so bad that you get a perfect storm. him two parties can their tents and not -- two parties can broaden their tents enough to not make those kind of appeals. it's going to be a conservative party. conservativenot a problem-solving party, one that is looking within the traditions

that the framers set up of finding ways to compromise, to find some common ground, then the whole political system comes under challenge. that is a matter of some urgency. how partisan one maybe as a democrat, you don't want to sierra publican party move to the fringes. host: a question from twitter -- what is the young guns? guest: it comes from a movie, a kevin costner movie, as i recall. the --s eric cantor, kevin mccarthy, and paul ryan, --rgent -- emerging publican

emerging republican leaders, started a process to recapture in majority in congress and emerge as the new leaders of the party. they did a book, promoted it , they even gave a nod to john boehner who is then their leader. theasically suggested it is new forces that are going to take over. they went out around the country before the 2010 midterms and encouraged and abetted this tea party uprising. with new people coming in, there is this expectation they can co-opt them. now it is very clear who the co-opt yours were. the young guns have not disappeared. ryan is still driving

policy force on the republican side of the house, extraordinarily well respected, and likely the next chairman of the powerful ways and means committee. kevin mccarthy defined the expectations of many who thought the new leadership would be completely honest -- completely upended from the old. be acantor is not going to non-entity. he will be a force outside. they clearly haven't accomplished what they want to cut -- want to accomplish. guard -- the -- coast host: what of the young guns has left. they: i don't think predicted that would be the outcome. him john boehner, a lot of people predicted, would not last as speaker, might be overthrown

as speaker. he would decide to hang it up. they still move outside the congress. it he looks to be the speaker in charge and will be there at least through the end of this congress. there is a pretty good chance he will be back next time. >> it is even worse than it looks. let's go to joe waiting in georgia on our line for independents. are you with us? in new go to roxanne hampshire on our line for independents. good morning. call, i keep hearing our immigration system is broken. i want specifics. specifically what is broken?

guest: i know you will be going in great debt on this later today, but there are several things that are broken. we have at least 12 billion undocumented people -- 12 million undocumented people living in the country. they are living in the shadows. that is not a very good process to half. we have cut back very significantly from previous euros on legal immigration for those coming into the country. we still have a lot of people coming in illegally. that is not a healthy process to have either. now we have something i alluded to just a few minutes ago. coming of children are across the southern border from central america. time that we cannot accommodate. those are broken elements. the border isn't clearly working

well. you have a lot of people coming in on tourist visas who then stay over there time and try to develop their work. finding a way to accommodate the 12 million who are here and not notice something as mitt romney has suggested of self deportation or departing them, and yet finding a way to make sure the system functions by having legal immigrants coming in. the skilled labor, we have a major shortage of positions partly because of the way we handle our immigration pattern. we have a shortage of highly skilled workers. some people who come here and work and do a good job cannot go back home for a funeral or wedding or anything else and be sure they are going to get back

in. we have a lot of work to do on the immigration system, whatever you think about the legalization of those who are here in an undocumented way or not. host: we have 10 minutes left from norman ornstein. from twitter -- that is carly be. >> there is a lot of truth to that. there was an attempt to take this rural anger out there, a apulist anger, combined with number of other forces, and challenge -- and channel it to election victories. now a lot of those forces are proving to be not so easily

controllable. think we need a republican party that is a vibrant thatrvative party, one aims for a smaller government. are elements of government that have to operate well. some of this is a tactical matter. the struggle is not going away. if you live by the sword you may die by the sword. of the that is part problem that led to eric cantor posta mize. >> does gerrymandering -- exacerbate the

risk of extreme results like cantors? was changedistrict in 2010, ironically to make it safer as a republican district. what it did is it moved out from richmond into some new suburbs that were not quite so amenable for a and made it easier challenge from an insurgent like dave brat. is of the things i get asked isn't that a core cause of what we are dealing with here? there is no doubt we have many more safe districts that can only be competitive in a primary. we have homogeneous districts. redistricting reform is not going to solve the problem. one of the points made in the pew study, it is very different

from most studies that have been done. it is basically proven out by the survey. people have moved increasingly into areas where they are surrounded by like-minded individuals. instead of drawing them in compact >> house leadership elections are scheduled for thursday. tomorrow on washington journal, paul bremer wrote about the possibility of sending more u.s. troops to iraq. he'll join us on the next "washington journal" and we'll talk to congresswoman loretta sanchez. he she serves on the homeland security and armed services committee. and steve levy of "wired"

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