of gummy bears on the label. mr. you have stated there should not be restrictions on responsible advertising of the cigarettes or other types of these nicotine vapor products. tell us what is responsible and what is irresponsible advertising in your industry? >> responsible advertising is trying to reach the more than 40 million adult smokers in this 500,000 of whom died prematurely from tobacco related illness. trying to reach those people and partsem off of the toxic they are using is the responsible thing to do. irresponsible would be the use of cartoon characters or images, trying to target children, advertising during programming

that appeals to children and things of that sort in accident responsible to show and e-cigarette that looks almost exactly like a combustion cigarette in a television ad, is that responsible? >> i believe that it is. for most smokers if you ask them what an electronic cigarette is they think it is a complicated device with a lot of wires and it was important to communicate there could be as close as possible to the product they were currently using and that would make it easy as possible --transit -- transmission transition to a new habit. >> for an adult who knew that. for a kid who is looking at that tv advertisement. is in the to that kid that does not know the sophistication of what you just said that it is ok to have either one? quick that is why we have our

message, friends do not let friends smoke which is our ad campaign we did earlier this year. that is the kind of ad campaign the public health community should support. >> that is where you were -- you are going to run into some problems. in the public sector, we have been through this with tobacco and children. we have seen how tobacco companies have tried to hook children through this and that is advertisements on nicotine because once the to them as a child it will be tough all through their life as an adult to get off of it. and i think you're going to have some significant pushback. on lending and blurring the two. >> thank you. >> senator markey, would you , the power structure

has arrived. the power structure is here with coffee. black coffee, no sugar. he was doing something that required the use of power. ?ould you yield for moment >> you have a right to remain silent. the house floor on the durbin amendment. the first of are brought out on the house and senate for two band smoking on flights less than two hours. we are here with a historic figure. historicit is a presentation. >> i want to thank the chairman

for his kind remarks and also my colleagues. thank you for your patience. i will submit my statement for the record. and acknowledge the presence of matt myers. we have been in the struggle for long-term trying to save and spear kids from tobacco. and what it does to them. we know when addictions start, they start in your adolescence. if you can sell an addictive product to an adolescent, you have got them. you may have them for life. that is why a lot of marketing is done for children. back in the day it was just bald-faced marketing. joe camel and everything you can imagine. the kids were wearing t-shirts and hats and sadly becoming addicted to products that would be the end of their healthy lives if they were not careful. and now we have this argument by the e-cigarette industry that is -- it is an accident that your advertising and marketing is appealing to so many kids.

it is hard to understand. i think it is hard to believe. e-cigarette uses on the rise. cdc released a study showing one year the percentage of middle and high school students who used e-cigarettes more than doubled. they would have you leave it is an accident. we know better. the same study found one in five middle school students who reported using e-cigarettes had never tried a conventional cigarette. this was not about finding a way off of smoking. this suggests for many young people e-cigarettes was a gateway to nicotine addiction and smoking. the new study goes even further. school students who use cigarettes less likely to quit smoking and more likely tobacco cigarettes. according to the surgeon general

report, 2100 go on to become smokers. it harkens me back to an era that you will do well. it was 30 years ago if you can recall this time when those seven tobacco company executives appeared in the house of representatives and took an oath that cigarettes and tobacco were not addictive. executives of the company is back are doing do not market to kids. between 2011 and 2013, exposure to e-cigarette marketing by aged 12-17 rose 256%. . blu cigarette accounted for

much of this. it is the same battle. we have been added before. they want to addictive these kids, this time to an e-cigarette which has a chemical that is addictive. we know it leads to. it leads to tobacco addiction, disease, and death. is a caseelieve there to be made for e-cigarettes thing sold to children. i hope his committee feels the same way. >> it does. you, senator durbin. senator markey. >> thank you, mr. chairman. that back to dig durbin, was a historic debate on the house floor. that was the beginning of the banning of smoking on airplanes in the united states. we are in your debt for that day. it changed the whole course of history. from lung cancer.

he smoked two packs of camels a day. said heme at age 12, he knew i would be starting to smoke very soon he said to me at age 12. that is when he started to smoke and heat knew i would. as wasurging me not too my mother. my father knew then that when he started smoking may be in 1930 at the same thing would be true when i was a boy and the same thing is true today for boys and girls. that is when the temptation is greatest and why we have to be most aware. the marketing to them is what makes it seductive and then once you got them got them for life. that is why we're having this hearing because the marketing of this is sollure of superficially attractive that we know all of history tells us it is targeted at young people, at kids, and it has always been

that way. i miss my father and i wish he had never smoked two packs of camels day but he could not break the habit once he was -- once you're on, you're on. we know the technology is a very good thing. we have transformed rotary phones into iphones and turned sunlight and wind into energy and plans into certain drugs. there are certain things that do not need to be reinvented. items that serve no societal benefit. the cigarette is one of them. no cigarettes have exploded into the marketplace known as torything from e-cigs vaporizers. these products are designed to and -- they are more accessible and explicitly marketed to use. we are focused on a revisitation of the history books. we know what happened in the past.

we know what is happening right now. after more than four decades of research there are several in condor verbal facts. nicotine is addictive. and, nation west tobacco -- in itbination with tobacco claims millions of lives. tobacco denied the facts. today e-cigarette sales in the u.s. alone tops $1 billion. use of e-cigarettes by high school students doubled in just one year. school kids typically aged 12-15 had never smoked a traditional cigarette. this data is not at all surprising when one consider the ways these products market particularly to youth and how these products are available in a myriad of flavors from cotton candy to cool a great. -- kool-aid grape.

they claimed they were the best for you. e-cigarettesloud promises the gift of fresh air. in the 1940's philip morris promised their heart would provide freedom from throat irritation and virginia slims another companies advertised cigarettes as touches of freedom that equated smoking with women's rights. has ablu cigarettes campaign called take back your freedom. executives's suggested walking a fine line in packaging designed to ensure that packaging was geared to attract the youthful eye. not the ever watchful eye of the federal government. today's electronic cigarettes are no better than the marlboros of the 1950's. vapen candy flavored

liquid can contain just as much as aa teen -- nicotine regular cigarette. they pose the same risks as joe of the 1970's. the flavors attract young people. when the -- the younger young person is when they start the more difficult it is to stop. we know that of kid has not started to smoke what age of 19 they are not going to start. we just know that is a role. you got to get them before 19. because all the social pressure .s no longer effective just a role. you have to market younger. that is the way it works. you have to find replacement customers for those who have died. if you could give me a yes or no is the nicotine that is present in e-cigarettes and eight-liquid nicotineaddictive than in traditional cigarettes? >> it is no less addictive.

the doctorgree with that your products are just as addictive as traditional cigarettes question mark >> i agree they contain nicotine and we do acknowledge nicotine is addictive. >> you agree. do you agree with that? x yes. >> let's go back to you. if that is the case in the are possible, what argument can they make to keep these products on the market or targeted to children? >> it is the reason we are concerned about the kind of marketing we have seen and the use of flavors that appeal to children. >> for many the thought of santa clause brings back nostalgia. us children would not think of santa needing an e-cigarette despite the social media promotion to the contrary. other examples including images ringrtoons like mr. cool

back flash backs of similar strategies used by traditional tobacco companies. think there's a chance that these images could appeal particularly to young consumers? >> i think there no question about that. our concern is it is a generation of consumers who have been protected from this kind of advertising and so it is the first time they will see them. >> is it a coincidence that it same way "cool" in the 1950'scigarettes in the it would be a softer entry for andkid to go cool first move on to the harder cigarette? >> it requires a level of disbelief to believe it is a coincidence. to get time it is trying

the young kid into the pattern of smoking cigarettes. dr. myersee with about that, that is what the attention is, to entice a kid in to do something that is cool that will lead to real health consequences for that in person? >> absolutely not. our product is intended for adult smokers and i can understand the opinion if smoking was not and we created smoking, we did not. we created our product to get smokers away from combustion cigarettes. andn your testimonial materials presented to the committee european the state that your target audience are adults and we continue to hear it right now. tol your company's commit not using these materials that could be expected to appeal to children? >> we agreed not to use that kind of advertising. it was used when i was a boy. kids said why young

they will smoke kools first. have removed at least a year ago. we commit to never using that again, correct. >> what will you commit to using any kinds of cartoons in the future? >> i will agree to that. >> no cartoons in the future. >> correct. actually it commit to going through your social media sites to her race past images such as those that appeal to those who are young kids? >> absolutely. we rigorously go through and continue to do so. already has. >> several brands use advertising to create the impression that e-cigarettes on her way to eliminate traditional cigarette use altogether. this has been acknowledged by the american legacy foundation who in a recent report stated that some brands focused their message more responsibly on smokers to quit combustible use.

let's briefly view a recent television ad by finn e-cigarettes. a brand that has recently surged in popularity. >> to the land of the free. ♪ to the pursuit of happiness. to independence. to freedom of choice. to a quality. there was a time when no one was offended by it. the time has come again. finn's. electronic cigarettes. rewrite the rules. >> to repeat the closing line there was a time when no one was offended by it. just smoking amongst other people, and different to how it might impact on them but that time has come again. says the ad.

the message seems to be promoting smoking is a new past time for young, attractive consumers. based on your review of pocketing messages, do you have concerns that these products are glamorizing smoking in general? >> i do. it is clear that many of these images are quite glamorous and quite attractive. they really are taking a lesson from the 1950's playbook of the tobacco companies and that is of significant concern. i want to make a point that when young people see these ads or see people who are using electronic cigarettes or the devices it ising hard to pick a distinction between someone who is smoking and someone who is vaping. are pretty savvy and i have shown them xers and they say they are smoking a cigarette. it is difficult for kids to understand that there is a difference. and so we really are

saying i fear a re-normalization of that image and behavior. it is glamorous and sexy. they have cute models who are vaping and out kids -- our kids do not recognize the difference. it is a concern. >> is the tagline encouraging continued nicotine and tobacco use by those who would otherwise quit altogether? >> that is it -- a significant concern that we are getting people to do dual use rather than getting them to quit combustible products. >> do you collect information about the demographics of your customers? >> we do. >> could you provide the age demographics and other information about your current users of your products to the committee? >> yes, i could. our average is 51. we could give you the total data. you do the same? >> yes. -- i think you so much.

thank you so much. we know what is going on here. you do not have to be dick tracy to figure this out. when understand the advertising -- we understand the advertising. you have to get someone under 19 to start smoking otherwise you have lost the most likely customer. . thank you for this hearing i am fortunate i never had a cigarette in my life but that was just because my father knew he had made a big mistake and he made it, along with my mother, a very strong admonition to me. this was an avoidable catastrophe. and we just have to make sure that other young people who were not protected the way i was are not actually made vulnerable by the marketing of these companies because otherwise, it is another cigarette usedol to be into the worst that can help in -- happen to someone

from health perspective. >> we will have a second round because senator limassol -- blumenthal [inaudible] >> i would respectfully request a second round. >> this is all about the money. it is uncreative. it is nasty. it is like pornography in my mind. maybe what you're doing is much more dangerous. you.ashamed of i do not know how you go to sleep at night. i do not know what gets you to work in the morning. except the color green of

dollars. i never said anything like that never have heard by u2 andsuch as even by you, sir come out what i want to do is send you to the middle east. we could get good people together and settle everything. you can come back and talk to us more realistically. but for you too, your what is wrong with this -- but for you two, you are what is wrong with this country. the prophet -- profit motive is aimed atonly if it is something which is for the general benefit of the public and that could be stretched little bit. because the public likes to be entertained. i cannot say professional basketball is necessary for democracy but people like it. so let's go ahead.

in your case you do not have that leeway. it simply a matter of the dollars. the money that you rake in. 256 increase in two years and you say it is for adults, not for children. when everything that has come out in this hearing says otherwise. i think it is dreadful. i yield to senator blumenthal. >> thank you and thank you for giving us a second round and thank you for holding this hearing. i want to begin by joining senator durbin in thinking that myers for his long-standing historic and -- efforts in this that go back decades. we work together for a couple of decades on the catena diction and tobacco use which are a continuing problem in this country. let us never forget despite the fact that this hearing is on

e-cigarettes that the evil of tobacco and cigarette use remains as a primary cause of death and addiction in this country. if there is a redeeming fact , it is theproduct possibility that it offers quick mechanisms yet unproven, but at least perhaps a glimmer of hope. it is the advertising and promotion and the pitches that bring us here today. so let me begin the second round of questioning on sort of a positive note. tobacco,r against big so-called, i was privileged to help lead the effort close to 20 years ago with a lawsuit that eventually led to settlement. that produced great advances. an act of congress and

the tobacco control act to take another step and we still have in the battlego to redeem public health in that area. let me ask you, would you be willing to come together to my to sit down, to commit to reaching a settlement, an stopsent, a protocol that any possible add at -- ads and pitches that acute -- appeal to children and teenagers western , we do we are committed not want to attract anyone who is not an adult smoker. we committed to fda regulation. we have been long supporters for the category. >> i am asking you to commit to something more specific. talks,s to join in

specific discussions involving others in the industry, the major players just as happened in the tobacco area that would reduce protocols and agreements for example, to avoid use of tv, avoid use of cartoon characters, to require identification of point of sale, similar to what was done. >> we would be willing to have conversations. i would not be willing to restrict elevation advertising because it is an effective means of communication. >> of course it is. it is an attractive means to reach children. i am asking you to join in conversations that would involve others in your industry and i am asking this question to both of you that would at least consider what has been true of the , its avoidancey of the use of tv ads.

the abilityelcome to sit down and discuss it as i said earlier. it is not my intention to sell this to children. down.ot averse to sitting >> we're not talking about content. -- we discovered when we brought lawsuits that showed despite other claims under oath, they had studies showing that their marketing tactics were aimed at children, had the effect of reaching children and appealing to children. i know you are a lot smarter. you do not have the studies in your file. this hearing is not about what you say your intentions are. it is what the effects are.

strategies,eting your promotion, your use of celebrity. just to complete some of the tableau. i am sure you recognize this individual. >> that is jenny mccarthy. >> do you know what product she is using? >> blu. >> would you deny that this kind of a part -- emotion appeals to teenagers and children? >> i would deny that. >> you would? even though she is a celebrity, in anhough she is an -- obviously suggestive pose, you would deny it has any appeal to teenagers children. >> i would deny that. she's smokingay in this promotion? >> she is vaping. >> you do not see any confusion between smoking and vaping.

>> of course there is some confusion but to defeat tobacco and cigarettes we have to appeal to smokers. anothere show you official document from your company that is on your website. as part of what you have called the smoking prevention program. you recognize it? >> i am here to represent blue. -- blu. know what you are representing -- what you're showing. >> could i have all these made part of the official record? .

you recognize that document? site that theyhe sponsor but they are not responsible for the messaging. i am here to speak for blu. lorelard document you are saying they are not responsible for it? >> this is not on the website. >> it is not part of real parents, real answers. >> i assume it is. you have never seen it before? which i have never looked at the site in depth. >> you have never looked at the site in depth. you are here representing blu, are you not? >> correct. >> let me ask you as someone who

has ever seen it before. it says for the first time in 43 years smoking ads are returning to tv with advertising. you have to accept my representation that this is part presentation called real parents, real answers. it says that smoking ads are returning to tv. are those your ads? >> our ads would be some of them. >> kids may be vulnerable to trying e-cigarettes due to an abundance of fun flavors such as cherry vanilla, piña colada, and very. that is a warning about flavors. >> that is an opinion of the

person that created the site. >> it might be that company but you have not seen it before. >> i know of it and the business behind it. at the bottom it states -- cites the opinion of the dr.. >> let me show you a couple of charts on flavors. person that created the site. that this kind ofd you say appeals tor add children? rex completely inappropriate and i would agree with you. >> it is part of what the industry does. no?or >> it is one brand in particular. it is not what i do. as auldn't you agree that responsible marketer and you are in the business of promoting and selling these products that an industrywide agreement to ban those kinds of cartoon characters would be a good thing? characters,artoon

and the use of advertising, i would agree. >> would you agree to come together and reach another master settlement agreement that provides for a ban on this type of inappropriate marketing, the use of people like jenny mccarthy, sports and rock concert sponsorship, all of these kinds of same protocols and agreements with the result of the tobacco industry coming to the table, would you agree to do it? >> i would agree to sit down to discuss how we effectively eliminated tobacco but i would not sit down to discuss how i relinquish my first amendment rights and lose focus of the big picture that we could eliminate tobacco here. >> may i suggest respectfully respectould have more for all of the answers you have given today knowing that you are

the messenger, you do not make the policy. commit company's would to help lead and make yourself part of the solution, not the problem. is not yourhere product. i am not passing judgment on your product. enough science to draw conclusions. i view it skeptically as a means of quitting or cessation. i am not passing judgment on the product. i'm passing judgment on the marketing and promotion which creates a clear and present danger of addicting another generation, addicting another generation to nicotine which is among the most powerfully

addictive drugs known to man. and it is in fact the ingredient socigarettes that makes him pernicious and insidious because it evokes the user to a device that kills them. cigarettes kill people. products are a gateway to cigarette use, they are aiding and abetting that killing. i hope you will rethink some of your answers. i hope that we will have another form where we can revisit some of these issues and we can move constructively toward some kind of solution. thank you. you. >> earlier in my comments i noted the toxicity of int concentrated nicotine

e-cigarette refill liquid. let me ask the two derailment. in addition to the nicotine what are the other ingredients in the liquid nicotine? blu product to the they are glycerin, vegetable glycerin, distilled water, nicotine, and natural and artificial flavors. >> in our product it is propylene by call, glycerin, and flavoring. >> are any of those other than the nicotine harmful substances? >> we have tested our products house support the fda testing for these products. we are submitting our results to the fda and we are comfortable

with the results of they are factors safer. >> as to the substance being harmful or not i did not understand your answer. that the substances are generally regarded as safe and foods. they have not been tested in terms of epidemiological studies and inhalation in humans over large periods of time. >> do you make a complete listing of all these substances in the e-cigarette liquid available to the public? >> we do. it is on the website. rex yes, sir. >> i would just note for the record and ask that it be inserted. it has been brought to my

a billboardere is at christmas time. beicture of what appears to a santa claus like figure. i do not always vape but when i vapor [inaudible] the seasons ofng the year. i would add this to the record. models, allive promoting these products. >> thank you. >> thank you all. the hearing is adjourned. >> thank you.

>> one of the recent senate hearings on the e-cigarette industry. we will continue the discussion about how the government should regulate e-cigarettes. we're going to do something we do not often get a chance to do, show you some props of the industry itself. system.ers or the tank we have a couple of them here. these are pretty heavy. couple ofs like a cell phones. a lot of discussion about the flavors of e-cigarette and a couple here. this is jamison's. as in the irish whiskey in the small container. that is a cappuccino flavor. we will open up the discussion. we want to ask you what you think. how the industry should be regulated. here is how to join the conversation.

if you are in e-cigarette smoker or user, a special line for you. we're taking her comments at facebook.com/c-span and using the twitter #. we certainly will check that. we are joined for the next hour a reporter who covers the tobacco industry for the associated press and joins us from richmond. richmond. thanks for being with us. >> glad to be here. saw part of a hearing that dealt a lot with the targeting e-cigarettesg of towards children and teenagers in particular. there?h truth is what is moan about how the industry is -- what is known about how the indusry is terms of marketing campaigns? >> i think it is difficult to industry would be

marketing directly towards children or teens. i think that what some of the things that are definitely senateaised in that hearing did raise concerns among howe at the hearing about those are being marketed. or as far as quantifiable anything of that nature, that is determined. >> it seems like the e-cigarette exploded.y has -- industry has exploded. why is it growing so fast? it started back in probably around 2006, late 2006 was a small growing user base for electronic cigarettes and has grown to million worldwide. the last estimate is that the e-cigarette industry will top $2.5 billion this we are. closed in on $2 billion last we

are. for customers and juicers that reached -- users that reached out to me, they are using it as traditionalve to cigarettes. some have been smoking for 20 plus years. dollar figures, the last year the e-cigarette a $2 billionly business and projected growth looks like this. for 2014,value $2.75 billion. 2015, $3.2 billion. there are 1500 e-liquid makers brandsu.s. with 450 online and 7,700 flavors. anseems like that that is awful lot of manufacturers out there. tobacco industry involved in the different manufacturers? industrythe tobacco itself is a small fraction. companiesree tobacco now have brands that are or will

be within the next month or so in in national distribution the u.s. some of them have acquired some overseas e-cigarette companies as well. majority is independent of willself.o industry i >> we ever talking about michael asking you about regulation of the e-cigarette industry. on thisht hearings somehow is because the f.d.a. is considering what sort of issue onns to e-cigarettes. what gives the f.d.a. the to regulate e-cigarettes? >> well, in 2009 president obama passed a law that gave the f.d.a. authority to tobacco products and after that they went through a process recently where they proposed in april what they call givesg regulations which them the authority or proposing

to give them the authority to regulate electronic cigarette tobaccor nontraditional products as tobacco products under the f.d.a. jurisdiction. to min minors.de des claims made without hard scientific evidence. wouldn't prestrict flavors or advertise. that is something they would a leg up on the regular tobacco indusry? lots of are certainly different restrictions that the traditional cigarette and industry have when it comes to marketing and advertising and flavoring as well. in my discussions with the f.d.a. on this topic they made it clear that the deeming regulations were merely foundational. give them the ability to

go further and regulate other industry if they deem it necessary. that could include flavors and marketing. areas that have raised concerns among those at the f.d.a. as well as public leaders and senators and congressmen. >> and the f.d.a. has extended that comment period on proposed regulations to august 8. and if you want to take a look comments so far. regulations.gov and viewers and listeners can take a look at the page. this wantts of folks to talk about the issue. evening.ogood how should the e-cigarette regulated? >> i wouldn't want to see children smoking the

the nicotine.ith you have vape the e-cigarettes without getting nicotine. i'm 59 years old and i know a group people in my age and in that 45 and older who in tryingunsuccessful to quit cigarettes. success ratea 95% now among that age group of long-term smokers where other things did not work. advertisinggs and goes on to help you quit but not everybody can highthat or it is in too of a dose. >> is it working for you? an e-cigarette smokeer? trying to become an e-cigarette smoker right now. cartridges are more

expensive than right now i make comes cigarettes and it out to $6 a carton which is not i would have had a better reason for quitting if it expensive.e more honestly i'm in the situation where there aren't any other wouldatives for me and i like to become an e-cigarette smoker and i believe that tried one of the tisdaldisposables. >> michael you are writing about that today. the associated press headline says for smokers can e-cigarettes save money. what did you find? >> in calculating the numbers the e-cigarettes industry if you are a regular e-cigarettes would save, you know, anywhere between hundreds and thousands of a year for most smokers. a primeu think that is motivation for people wanting to

over? >> that is not what i hear from most of the users have that reached out to me. majority of them are looking for it as an alternative to traditional tobacco cigarettes that he have been smoking for said, 20 plus years. >> i just want to make sure that at also the number of teens using. we talked about advertising aimed at teens. the c.d.c., the centers for disease control says that the usage of e-cigarettes is 10% high school students in 2012, up from 5%. byhas been tried 1.78 million middle and high whool students and most troyed e-cigarette teenagers cigarettes.egular we will hear from mitch in citrus heights california. an e-cigarette smoker, right? >> i am. not had aars i have

single regular cigarette. wasve been smoking since i 24. i'm now 43. and for two years i have been smoking e-cigarettes. desireave not had any whatsoever to return to regular cigarettes. oust displaytrage hears. it illustrated everything wrong with our political system. it gave them the opportunity to express outrage and to express they knew on which very little. and i feel ashamed as an american citizen who has benefited after so many failures smoking by e-cigarettes. >> okay, mitch. michael, what did you hear in his comments about when saw at hearing?e >> well, i mean as far as his certainly hiss opinion. that the senators

were raising issues that were and that willem either be addressed through other congressional matters or they choose tot pass through congress. have to wait for the f.d.a. to look at the science and decide how best to e-cigarettes. >> one of the officials testifying was the executive witenjoi. bruno mar mars invests in the theany and started using product for his mom. this is robert in california. your television. i will put you on hold for a second. beachad with palm gardens. samuel in florida. go ahead. in palmamuel and i live beach gardens and i am partly

opposed to e-cigs. honestly say one thing that just within a short drive there is ai live shopping plaza that sells e-cigs and i see a lot of children walking past that. just i'm just opposed to it. beeel that if children would tempted they sew adults -- see stores andg into the i think that it sends the wrong message. i really -- i don't see anything that would be positive be said about e-cigs. to hang up now, but i really think these regulatory agencies node to look at -- need

to look at who they are marketing and how they are marketing it. thank you. felberbaummichael how have states regulated in the absence of federal regulation? >> seven val states already passed regulation that limit age of purchase to 18. them have also placed e-cigarette within the regular smoking ban. that is one of the area that a of electronic cigarette makers advertise that the products can be used in places cigarettes areal not allowed and a lot of states are interpreting or passing now to include electronic cigarette in the smoking bans to some additionally started tax them at a higher rate as they would other toe back owe products. show -- tobacco products. >> up next a couple of minutes from the senate health committee. they heard from the heads of the

tobacco projects both with the c.d.c. and the f.d.a., the will betion that charged with regulating e-cigarettes. some of what they sad to hey and we will come back with more phone calls and comments on to regulate e-cigarettes. >> 50 years ago, half of the men win in the of the country smoked cigarettes. couldo companies advertise everywhere including tv and school children carried much boxes with significant coat logos. smoking was common in public places. isay the landscape different. adult cigarette smoking hags down torom 42% in 1965 18% today and tobacco prevention saved eightmeasures million lives over the last 50 years. to, half of the states prohibit smoking in work sites, bars and on tv

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momentum needed to achieve our harms andducing the risks associated with tobacco use.ct >> calm of the key government thecials involved on research were asking you how e-cigarette should be regulated. by michaeled fauberbaum. remind us of the deadline for the f.d.a. a deadline coming up in august. what happens after ha? >> after the public comment period that ends the beginning august they can take as long as they feel necessary to review draft theents and they haven'tish somehowed a time table yet but there is a lot of pressure on from theou have seen two recent senate hearings to passing some -- swiftly on passing some sort of regulatory frame work. regulations.gov for

the comments there. comments at c-span chat. jake is saying he is 61 years old. packs a day and now vapes exclusively. sara says it is great to hear the success stories i'm proud of tobacco andquitting speaking up. this one say is parents must actionsponsibility for of their own children. parent of smoking children should be jailed for abuse. allison says scientists should be scientists and activists activists. and we welcome your comments, too. go back to calls. robert, evening. doing?are you >> fine, thank you. pick up your phone instead of the speaker we would hear you better. >> okay, fine. >> that would be good. now?ay >> well, go ahead, robert with your comment. >> okay. i cant know too much how answer your question but i'm 85

years old. veteran. i wore a badge, i have been a cop for 39 years. around a lot.n now when you come to the smoking stuff i refer to something like i was in the military hospital. you go in the hospital and they will have cigarettes in there but now -- they don't have cigarettes but now the advantage cigarettes. they won't contaminate nobody else. in a bar.smoking we have to go in there and do a job we don't have time for. hey, look, these nice thing, are a people can smoke. then we go into the home. in there andildren parents in there. what i found out in the home, i notice they smoke. the mother will smoke outside so she doesn't contaminate the husband smokes outside and when they go back thede they smoke e-cigarette and i thought that

was a night thing. >> let me ask michael about the the smokeresence of for those who aren't e-cigarette familiar or smokers. when you walk into a room full of people and you covered this since 2005. room alamoke-filled tobacco?like >> it is different atmosphere. i attended a convention that held here in richmond a couple of years ago and in a lot walk in and you will see some clouds of smoke because there were a lot of the room that were using e-cigarettes and obviously smoke, itnecessarily is vapor. is not the same thing for when you look at it comparatively. on as far as the science whether the vapor from e-cigarettes have any impact on users, you know, similar

to traditional second hand smoke there is still a lot of work being done out there to determine that. montana.go to montana.n chateau, go ahead. >> this is barbara. thei was really shocked at senate hearing that senator rockefeller chaired that these e-cigarettes have flavors and advertisements are cartoon advertisements. flavors like bubble gum. to attractt set up adults. that is set up to attract young children. and words like cool versus the 1940's and 1950's. there should be regulations e-cigarettehe manufacturers from using flavors

that are primarily attractive to people.g >> michael fauberbaum would the regulations deal with flavors in any way? >> they don't explicitly teal flavors. -- deal with flavors. the regulations themselves as they are proposed right now establish a framework in order to allow the f.d.a. to do regulations town the line if they deem it necessary. to look at science whether flavors children or are only being used to attract children or if the product is being used by adults and that will be something that they will determine down the line. is caroline in east haven, connecticut. user?e an e-cigarette >> hi, how are you? >> i'm doing fine. so you use e-cigarettes? do.es, i

>> go ahead with your comments. >> my concerns are that there haven't really been any studies about the effects of other people. have a son in high school and they are smoking them in school. they -- i mean who take care of the regulations? >> the high school hasn't stopped them from smoking? >> no. and it's in a lot of different towns. >> are localities like her case of a high school not a-- allowing kids to smoke, what is the situation in localities? are they many of them encountering the same sort of thing? >> a lot of states are including these in their indoor smoking bans. localities as well have explicitly stated that these products are prohibited for use inside schools and that various from locality from locality.

but there are a growing number of these areas and school districts that are placing restrictions on e-cigarettes inside their property. >> in general, most employers these days have a smoking area outside. you can't smoke inside the building. what has been your experience of what you have seen so far? >> as far as i know, i haven't heard explicitly one way or another whether companies are prohibiting e-cigarettes. seems to be a case-by-case basis from the folks i have spoken to. some are looking at those types of policies from folks that i have spoken with, but i couldn't say for sure whether there are current prohibitions or encouragements in place in different workplaces. >> chevy chase, maryland.

how should the government regulate e-cigarettes? >> it is a complicated issue. but in general, we need more regulations and laws. as a young person i'm appalled at the fact that the companies are focusing on flavors. it is all about money. as a young person, i have seen on my facebook, i have seen ads, advertising these e-cigarettes and advertising the different flavors. i just can't believe it. we need more regulation. no more flavors. much more restrictive in terms of who you are marketing this to. but in general, more regulation. right now they have free rein and i agree with senator boxer, we can't go back to the old tobacco. it is happening all over again.

>> ben, in chevy chase, maryland. michael is here. we recently -- you mentioned a moment ago this convention of people who like to smoke and the people who sell their wares and we got a video from one of the conventions in tampa, florida and we will give you a taste of what that convention was like. >> i'm here and totally wicked. this is brian. and brian, how long have you been doing this? >> i have been with the company for a couple of years now. originally the manager for the tampa store and now designing our new stores. we have a brand new store that opened just two days ago in st. pete beach. [laughter] >> and tons of people, awesome.

>> the first e-cigarette that i er used was totally wicked blueberry. >> and that is totally wicked. >> are you a vapor yourself? >> smoked for 30 years and i actually quit in about two weeks after i started using this product and that's what turned me on to totally wicked. >> which one is your favorite? >> that's a hard wup. there are so many. we have 150 flavors to choose from. i like the tobaccos. some of the more savory flavors. i go back and forth. >> you are wavering. >> i'll pick one for you. blueberry. you eberry-blackberry, have to try that. >> this is what he was going to

say. welcome to the favorite booth at the event. it's fuzzy and furry, it's pink. very feminine right up dimitri's alley. >> that's where we saw you last with lush vapor. tell us a little bit. what is up with lush vapor? >> trying to reach the east coast. and we want to gain more exposure out here. we do get a lot of following from across the nation, but we don't make appearances as much. >> pleasure to have you here and i wish more west coast companies could do that. the people on the east coast want to have the west coast stuff. any new flavors you are going to be releasing? >> belly dancer series because we are known for our belly

dancers. we have great flavors. the grape flavors, the grape, apple, cherry, watermelon. >> you have done a wonderful job. >> when i asked one of the beautiful girls if they knew who she was, there she is. look at her. they definitely know who she is. lisa, thanks so much. best of luck with your company. >> i'm here with mike. and obviously, we have to say first, look at your -- >> it's been a big hit. positive feedback about our pump system. and a way to provide success tom blends in a quick manner as well for all of voring our line. >> you mean from the top, obviously. >> we can set our pumps to any

content that we need. e set ours for three milly liters. make your own custom blend. >> that is really cool. what is the most popular one that you have? >> a lot of our tobaccos, banana is popular, watermelon. we uzbekistan organic ingredients and close to fruits and desserts that we represent. we wanted something consistent. >> how long have you been doing this? >> we have been in the brick and mortar industry for three, four months. and we met a lot of headway. we are the first company to sponsor. we are doing a lot of big things. i started off as a user watching you guys' show and now i'm rubbing elbows with you guys and

it's a beautiful thing. take care you guys. >> that's some video from a industry. there is a whole lot going on there rather than going to the seven-11, a whole theme going on. >> there is a cult following that goes along with a lot of these products. most of the folks that attend conferences like that from the folks i have spoken with, they'll use this tank systems where they can fill custom-flavored liquid nicotine into their e-cigarettes. >> we are asking you how should e-cigarettes be regulated. oin us by phone or facebook or

#cspan. this is one from ian who says let's not regulate something for once. not to politician regulate. >> i tried to quit and my doctor told me to quit. the first time i tried, i quit and never looked back. and not giving you a hard time but smart people never start smoking. glad you quit. let's go to an e-cigarette smoker in san antonio, texas, kathy. >> i would like to say something about the e-cigarettes. i have been smoking since i was 16. i'm now 56. i have been smoke-free for a year because of the e-cigarette.

i have tried patches, everything. and went back. and i don't know about other stores, but here in san antonio, all the product is behind the counter. you cannot buy it if you are under 18. >> do you feel healthier, kathy? >> i walk all day. i used to not be able to walk and i would get tired within five to 10 minutes. >> michael is there any data out there on people using e-cigarettes to quit and whether it's working? >> there is certainly studies that are ongoing about who is using electronic cigarettes. like i mentioned earlier and from what we have heard during this program today, there certainly seem to be a large number of smokers who are using these products for that reason. the difficulty with f.d.a. is that these companies are not

permitted to market them in that way unless they want to be marketed as a smoking cessation device similar to a nicotine patch or nicotine gum. the companies have to be very careful how they market these products. but as we have heard from plenty of people today, this is an option that they seem to be seeking out. >> why do they have to be so careful in that definition? >> the way the f.d.a. framework was set up, if they are making a therapeutic claim, you have to go through the center for drug delivery devices, which is a separate entity from the center for tobacco products. and that would take clinical trials in order to prove the effectiveness of the product, similar to, as i said, something like nicotine gum or patches. >> seems like in the senate

hearing we heard earlier, that was the reason behind their company was to get people to stop smoking. did the senators seem to buy that? >> well, i can't speculate as to whether they seem to buy that or not. but as you have pointed out, you did hear from two of the companies in that senate hearing, craig being one of them and in my discussions with him has said yes, their goal is to, as he likes to call it obsolete cigarettes. but that's not necessarily a cessation claim. that's their goal and that's the way that they -- the way they frame it. >> aaron in hollywood, florida. how should the government regulate e-cigarettes? >> hi, how are you doing? one thing is, yes, the f.d.a. should regulate it, but not to the point to what they are

trying to regulate as. my father-in-law is choking and he has been smoking for 60 years and has all sorts of health issues. if they put regulations that will kill the mom and pop stores that one it's going to hurt the economy and not have the outreach with people in his age. they shouldn't market this stuff to children and needs to be in some kind of ads where it is a cessation tool. i have smoked since i was 13 years old. i have parents that never taught me, parents that never told me the ins and outs of smoking and i picked them up and smoked away. i'm 35 years old now. i have quit smoking cigarettes or year and a half and saved $2,800. i feel better.

my taste and sense of smell has come back. better balance and more energy than what i did when i was smoking. >> does the f.d.a. take into account these comments that we are hearing tonight and the comments that they see online? will they really drive that decision? >> well, it's certainly a public comment period where various people from within the industry and average consumers can voice their opinion. how that impacts their ultimate decision, i cannot say. but i do know from previous areas where they've had public comment periods within the tobacco realm, they do cite some of those public comments in terms of how they chose to regulate different products. >> more of your calls and comments coming up in just a bit. we wanted to show you the questioning with the f.d.a. and

c.d.c. and senator alexander, republican from tennessee. >> where do you come on this difference of opinion on e-cigarettes? david adams at the legacy foundation. make the cigarette obsolete. many kids are starting out with e-cigarettes and going on to smoke conventional cigarettes. do we know enough what the impact of e significance relates is? >> i need to answer as a regulator. we have proposed to extend our jurisdiction over electronic cigarettes that meet the statutory definition of a tobacco product. we are funding literally dozens of studies to answer all of the questions we have about e cigarettes and we have far more questions about what is in the product and what's in the vapor. we have questions about who is

using the products and how they are being used. >> so you don't come down on either side yet as to whether it's a tool for more important as a tool toll help those who already smoke cigarettes to stop smoking or more dangerous, as a tool to encourage kids to start smoking. >> the only appropriate position for f.d.a. is they have the potential to do good and potential to do harm and we need answers to questions. >> don't you have to have -- well, when will you have enough answers to make the kind of decisions that you are expected to make here? >> we don't need the answers to those questions to complete the deeming rule-making that we launched several weeks ago. in terms of going forward to figure out what approaches should be applied to e-cigarettes when they come within our regulatory reach, we

need answers to those questions. let me give you an example. we are spending a lot of money on what is called the longitudinal study. called the population assessment of tobacco and health and following tens of thousands of adolescents and adults and over time, studies like that will begin to give us information that answers some of the behavioral questions, who is using the products, how they are being used. we need additional information on the products themselves. there are liquid nicotine products and exposure to the liquid nicotine products. when we have answers, we can use the regulatory tools to figure out a framework to regulate e-cigarettes but starts with the authority to regulate them which is the deeming proposal is all

about. >> senator burr? >> thank you, mr. chairman. irector zeller, do you believe that some tobacco products present greater risk to individuals than other products? >> yes. >> ok. the -- do you believe noncombustible products are likely to reduce harm for individuals that otherwise would be using a conventional significance rett? >> it -- cigarette? >> you can take any noncombusting product, whether it's a smokeless tobacco product, e-cigarette and depends who is using them and how they are being used.

if we look at a subset of smokers, they are going to continue to smoke. half of them will die prematurely later in life from that decision. if we could get all of those people to completely switch all of their cigarettes for one of these products, that would be good for public health. our job is to figure out what is going on at the population level and includes the much larger group of smockers, not like the first group i defined, a much larger group of smokers who are concerned about their health and interested in quitting and what happens instead of those people completely substituting with a noncombustible product they start using both and then we would say that might not be good for public health and our job is to figure out what the net of those possible behaviors including any nigs which would not be good for public health

policy. regulatory >> so much for the adults that chose the gum five years ago and chewed the gum and had a cigarette and couldn't smoke at work and does that mean that nicorette is not a useful tool for that individual? only a useful tool if that individual uses it to quit? >> i would concede that any of these products at an individual level can do good. what is challenging for all of us giving ushe is the decisions we have to make are not going to be made about what might be good for the theoretical individual. we have to have regulatory science to support decisions that inform what is happening at a population level. we have to look at all possible behaviors. >> if your trend line is this way, then the public health effect is better.

you have less people using combustible products. you have more of those individuals who need to quit or gone to a reduced-harm product. t me say for the record, c.v.s. still sells nicorette gum, probably all of the products that aid in eliminating or reducing the rate of smoking. it's not like they threw out the whole category. the retailer that reduced a large amount of sales, they still believe that risk reduction is an important thing for them to endorse, would you agree? >> i would answer it in this way, senator, the products that you are referring to have been approved by f.d.a. as safe and effective medications and have been on the market for over 30

years. there is a robust evidence base to know those products work to help smokers stop smoking. they are actually not approved for reduction. they are only approved for abrupt cessation. but there is a robust evidence base that when marketed to help smokers quit and when used properly, people can succeed. by contrast, to go to the questions from senator alexander about what you know and what you don't know when it comes to e cigarettes there is a whole lot to know. >> i agree with you totally. can you point to any new innovation where we know right at the beginning everything about it and that we could come to an assessment. i'm hopeful through your studies you find this product as safe. we don't want an unsafe product out there that contributes to a different problem. ut if you find that it's safe,

are we going to say the same thing about e-cigarettes 10 years from now. gee, the body of evidence did a tremendous thing. isn't that a good thing? >> if we are going to regulate them as tobacco products, we have to find that the claims, the new products are appropriate for the protection of the public health. it's not the safety and efficacy standard. and under the standard of properties for public health, it's that mix that we were describing that we have to assess and make regulatory assessments. >> i look forward to the science that is produced on this. i just caution you and our iends at c.d.c. that if we kill technology and innovation,

which is in essence what some are attempting to do with electronic cigarettes, just stop it, no more, shouldn't be sold, then innovation isn't going to play a role in reducing the amount of americans that smoke. it's just not. and i think it's safe to say when i look at diabetes and we look at other things that we would consider a public health epidemic. innovation is going to give us the ability to do it. whether they can go to mcdonald eye and buy a double cheese berger. it's going to be innovation and driving technology and coming out with products that allow us to turn around the problem they've got. i think that's what we are talking about here and i look forward to the work you're doing. >> our discussion is how should the government regulate

e-cigarettes. our guess is a tobacco reporter for the associated press. is congress trying to play catch-up and likely to propose any sort of regulations ahead of the f.d.a.'s guidance? >> there are several proposed legislative remedies to address some of the concerns that have been raised in these senate hearings so far. but as zeller put it, the f.d.a. was give quen a framework to work with within in order to regulate these types of products and have to meet a certain standard in order to make a scientific-based regulatory rule. and that's what they are working with. >> few more minutes for phone calls. let's go to tennessee. patricia. >> i just have a few comments to

make. number one, i'm nearly 35 years old and was a smoker for over 20 years. i tried numerous things with no avail. went to e-cigarettes and within two weeks i was able to convert completely and it was over a year. a few comments i did have. a lot of people have the perception that smoke, it's vapor, it's this and that, same stuff they used to create smoke. it looks like smoke and automatically discriminated against and until they get the facts what it does to people and i don't know why they are legislating against it. >> florida. >> what's going on? >> what's going on with you? how do you think the e-cigarette industry should be regulated? >> i think it needs to be regulated, particularly in regards to it being in possession of minors. that being said, i as a

registered democrat and being young, i found it surprising about how the senators went about the discussion on -- they em to be an unawareness or sinagain youness of how they unstood media advertising and how kids had access to advertising. there aren't any safeguards in regards to younger people getting access to those forms of media. you don't have to be a teen to make a facebook profile. and unless a parent is in control, there are tv settings and you have access to all these channels which are going to show these advertisements. i found it odd when senator klobuchar made the comparison and her daughters and friends of

r daughters being in their twitter. that is an indictment of young kids having access to the ads. and seems they wanted the e-cigarette companies to do know advertising so that no young people could see them or somehow manage to change advertising entirely and pinpoint adults versus young people. >> and michael, will the f.d.a. be the only government entity that deals with the issue of advertising, in terms of advertising e-cigarettes to minors or whatever? >> at this point, the f.d.a. is the regulatory agency that is taking a look at electronic cigarettes. one of the legislative efforts would give the federal trade commission some power to look at the marketing of e-cigarettes

and determine whether those levers need to be pulled in one direction or another. but at this point, yes, the f.d.a. is the regulatory agency that will determine how the products would be regulated and how they would be marketed. >> one more quick call. doug, you get the last word here. >> it just seems to me that since we are trying to get teenagers out of the marketplace for this product, make it a prescription product. the person wanting to get off cigarettes would be under the care of a physician who could prescribe the delivery system. and no longer be in the advertisement arena. >> michael, i believe you covered that a bit early. one quick question.

for you. c.v.s. said they will not carry tobacco products anymore. what about e-cigarettes? >> i believe and i can't say for certain but i believe in that discussion c.v.s. did say that would extend to electronic cigarettes as well. for that reason that they are not approved by f.d.a. for safety and efficacy for smoking cessation. >> joining us from richmond is michael felberbaum, who's covering the tobacco industry based in richmond since 20005. we appreciate you joining and speaking with our c-span viewers this evening. >> thank you for having me. >> thank you for your calls and comments on how the government should regulate e-c >> coming up, a look at consumer drones, the churchill club in

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i believe speaker boehner when to pass anwants immigration bill. i think he genuinely wants to done.mething but last week he informed me the republicans will continue to a vote on immigration reform at least for the year.der of this are using theuse situation with the unaccompanied children as their new excuse to do nothing. i want everybody to think about that. their argument seems to be that broken, we system is shouldn't make an effort to fix it. it makes no sense. the level. it's just politics. and simple. there are others in the the house caucus in who are arguing that they can act because they're mad at me executiveg my authority too broadly.

sense.so makes no i don't prefer taking action.rative i'd rather see permanent fixes to the issue we face. ontainly that's true immigration. i've made that clear multiple times. i would love nothing more and more than bipartisan legislation to pass the house, the senate, i can signdesk, so it. that's true about immigration. true about the minimum wage. it's true about equal pay there. are a whole bunch of things where i would greatly prefer something.tually do i take executive action only serious problem, and congressue, chooses to do nothing. and in this situation, the tolure of house republicans pass a darn bill is bad for our

security, it's bad for our it's bad for our future. so, while i will continue to push house republicans to drop and act, and i hope their constituents will, too, cannot wait forever for act.to that's why today i'm beginning a to fix as much much our immigration system as i can, on my own. without congress. first step i'm directing the director of homeland security and the attorney general to move available and appropriate resources from our interior to the border. andecting public safety deporting dangerous criminals has been and will remain the top toority, but we are going refocus our efforts where we can to make sure we do what it takes to keep our borders secure. i've also directed secretary

johnson and attorney general holder to identify additional actions mid awrtion can take on within my existing legal authorities to do what congress refuses to do and fix much of our immigration system as we can. theirgress will not do job, at least we can do ours. i expect the recommendationings the end of the summer. and i intend to adopt those without further delay. course even with aggressive administrativet, action alone will not adequately address the problem. reforms that will do the most is strengthen our businesses, our workers and our will stillomy require an act of congress. repeat, these are reforms that already enjoy the wide people.of the american it's very rare where you get

evangelicals,s, agreeing onent, all what needs to be done. and at some point, that should enough. normally that is enough. the point of public service is solve public problems. and those of us who have the privilege to serve have a to do everything in our power to keep americans safe and to keep the doors of opportunity open. if we do, then one year from only would our economy and our security be stronger, but maybe the best and the brightest from around the world who come to study here would here.nd create jobs maybe companies that play by the rules will no longer be undercut don't.anies that maybe more families who have been living here for years, whose children are often u.s. citizens, who are our neighbors friends, and whose

children are our kids' friends and go to school with them and ball teams with them, maybe those families would get to stay together. but much of this only happens if to pushs continue congress to get this done. so i've told speaker boehner that even as i take those steps i can within my existing legal authorities to make the immigration system work better, i'm going to continue the reach out to house republicans in the morethat they deliver a permanent solution with a comprehensive bill. will be after the mid terms when they're less worried about politics. year.it will be next when ever it is, nay will find willing partner. been consistent in saying

that i'm prepared to work with even on a bill that i don't consider perfect. a good senate bill was example. of the capacity to compromise and get this done. thing i can't do is stand by and do nothing. them to getg for their act together. what i saido repeat earlier. if house republicans are really tooerned about me taking many executive actions, the best solution to that is passing bills. pass a bill. solve a problem. don't just say no. on something that everybody done. needs to be pass a bill, that will supplant what was i've done

administratively. structure there that works, and it will be permanent. make plans and businesses can make plans based law.e and there will be clarity, both inside this country and outside. let me just close by saying friday is the fourth of july. it's the day we celebrate our independence. and all the things that make so great.ry and each year michelle and i host a few hundred service anders and wounded warriors their families right here on the lawn for a barbecue and fireworks on the mall. some of the service members unique.his year are because they signed up to serve. sacrifice. their livesto give to the security of this country,

even though they weren't yet americans. that's how much they love this country. they were prepared to fight and did notan america they yet fully belong to. i think they've earned their stripes in more ways than one. on friday morning we're going to naturalize them in a ceremony right here at the white house. this independence day will be their first day as american citizens. one of the things we celebrate on friday, one of the things this country great is that we are a nation of immigrants. our people come from every of the globe. that's what makes us special. us unique. makes throughout our history we've come here in wave after wave from everywhere, understanding that there was something about where the whole is greater than the sum of its

parts. all the different cultures energy would come together and create something new. freedomhis country's together. we built this country together. this country together. it makes a us special, it makes makes us, it americans. it's worth celebrating. that's what i want, not just house republicans, but all of us americans to remember. thanks very much.

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