tv Washington This Week CSPAN July 5, 2014 2:00pm-4:01pm EDT
2:00 pm
>> some of the legislation has we are people who choose cannabis over wine or maybe with wine. we are choosing something. it is adult choice, adult use. medical is one aspect of that. it is about freedom of choice to use a plant as part of your lifestyle. that normalization is what is going to push back. so when you can show up and do your job and still consume cannabis is going to help chip this fear. we are not bad people. we just like cannabis. >> that should be on your gravestone. [laughter] >> i think messaging is really important.
2:01 pm
citing evidence. i am assuming that beer consumption will go down. that kids find it harder to get and use it less. that people have access to medical treatment they did not have access to before. reporting that good news -- this is what i am doing. i am running for reelection. people are telling him he, what about this legalization? i say, so far is working out and we are bringing in revenue. reporting that good news hopes to dampen concern. when i was with jimmy carter, they invited washington state and colorado folks. they were taking us to task for destroying america's children. i kept saying, this is about regulating a market.
2:02 pm
don't you want to regulate the market? they got uncomfortable. they knew it was a rational argument. another thing is to put the burden on you as industry members. not to market to children. to message properly. not to be big marijuana. in washington state, we have legislated not to allow for big marijuana. we do not have vertical integration. you can only have a certain number of licenses and grow certain amount. that is the legacy of the liquor control system from 1933. a three tier system. where we encourage small businesses rather than large businesses. >> big marijuana. coming to get your children. let's talk about big prohibition. 1937, when we got into this mess, cannabis preparations
2:03 pm
alongside with heroin were available without prescription at pharmacies without age restrictions whatsoever. smoked cannabis was almost unheard of. however, citing homicidal mania, marijuana was made illegal. prohibition begun. in that time, from when cannabis was almost unheard of and widely available, we have grown to a society in which we are a little less than 5% of the population and use 25% of the supply. how is prohibition doing? in countries like holland, where adults can get a regulated supply, their youth rates are less.
2:04 pm
portugal as well. when they decriminalized drugs, the usage rates for children went down. that is in itself a good thing. let's look at what else went down. youth use of other drugs went down. youth availability of other drugs went down a lot. addiction rates, overdose rates, you name it. they went down. we regulate it. business is regulation. you want to talk about big marijuana? let's talk about big prohibition and what has not worked. what we are going to do to put some regulation in. we are actually going to decrease youth use. thank you. [applause]
2:05 pm
>> we have a very nice woman in the back who has been waving a stop sign. i will be really quick here. we have something called wildly important goals. are mentionedth by healthy kids colorado. we have public safety, which we will measure by hospital .dmissions and accidents we have people losing their jobs from alcohol and tobacco and marijuana substance abuse. those are the things we will --sure and we don't have to we just have to win statistics. that is all. >> let's give rounds of applause is. -- applause. thank you so much. [applause] >> just a quick announcement,
2:06 pm
take a look at your agenda. we have a half-hour break right now and then we move into our track sessions. regards for a-four f -- breakouts 4a-4f. ♪ washington journal recently discussed the sale of marijuana in colorado. this is 40 minutes. host: we have heard from a reporter and from an industry group. here is another perspective, gina carbone what the group smart colorado joining us from denver. welcome to c-span. guest: hi, thank you very much. host: could you tell our audience about your group, how it was formed, what is your purpose, in particular in the topic of her relational
2:07 pm
marijuana? guest: smart colorado was formed after the passage of amendment 64 which legalized marijuana in colorado. our main concern really is how the legalization of marijuana is going to affect our youth here colorado. we have an awful lot of people in the state who are just at to make money in this is this and make this industry as big as possible. but we feel that there has not been due consideration to what this is going to do to our communities and particularly our kids. so that is really our purpose. we have been working at the state level, the local level on legislation to tighten restrictions and to really try and prevent the unintended consequences that would adversely affect our youth. consd adversely affect our youth. whatat an -- host: intended consequences, such as what? guest: primarily more youth use.
2:08 pm
the concern is, even before legalization happen here, we had a robust medical marijuana industry. denver's youth use in particular is much higher than the rest of the country. for example, eighth-graders in denver, almost 20% in the last healthy kids survey that was done, almost 20% of our eighth-graders are using marijuana and that compares to the national average which is about 6.5%. so across all of the age spectrum's, denver's youth use where we have had a lot of commercialization with first medical marijuana and a recreational marijuana, we are going to see those numbers change, too. but we are concerned already that so many of denver kids are using marijuana. previousa carbone, our guests said that the new rules
2:09 pm
put in place, first and foremost, you have to be 21 to buy. there are other restrictions and rules put into place. wouldn't that cover concerns you might have? guest: again, you have to look at the medical marijuana industry and how long that has been going. we have seen a big spike in youth use since 2009. infractions at school, expulsions, suspensions, that type of thing. when you look at these actual surveys and you look at the areas where there is a terminus amount of commercialization like enver, -- like denver. have 343 hot shops in denver alone. the state has chosen only to have 21 shops. the sheer fact that we have so many stores that are selling it, it is very accessible.
2:10 pm
and medical marijuana is available to 18-year-olds. so that is really the avenue of how it is getting into the hands of our adolescence. we have recent stories since the legalization of fourth graders selling it on the playground. --have had a huge increase in fact, there really haven't -- several years ago, when you look that adolescents getting a hold of marijuana. now at children's hospital, it is a huge concern because kids are being admitted for accidental ingestion. it is mainly the edibles that they are finding. we are also seeing adults being admitted. about,ity hospital talks recently, dr. zane who is the head of the emergency room, there are 20 of adults who are checking themselves in because -- there are plenty of adults
2:11 pm
who are checking themselves and because these drugs are very potent and very easy to access because we have so many stores in denver in particular. host: michael elliott talked about the governor, working along with others, are working on finalization of some roles regarding thc and other products found in animals. are you part of that -- in edibles. are you a part of the process? guest: yes. what we have in our stores are bite-size pieces. if you can imagine a small rhesus piece -- a small reece's piece. they don'ters come, know that they are supposed to cut that into 10 individual pieces. edibles don't start to work for an hour or sometimes two hours after you adjust it. so the real problem is that the stuff is far too potent in
2:12 pm
individual servings. we have had these tragic deaths due to edibles. a student from the congo who was ate oneng came over he cookie and started hallucinated and jumped over a balcony. the only thing he had in his system was marijuana from the one cookie. there was a man who ate and edible and ended up shooting his wife. she was on 911 saying that he hallucinating because he ate and edible. so the state is turned to do something about it. how many more deaths do we have to have before things really change in colorado? because right now, there is really no restriction on -- go-ahead. host: what would you like to see?
2:13 pm
would you like lower content, better packaging, more disclosure? guest: the idea is that it is going to be 10 milligrams for each individual serving. so shrinking down the amount of thc in an individual serving will help tremendously. smart colorado is also pushing that each individual serving could be packaged individually. i think people, especially if they have to open another package, they realize, oh, i am having a second serving of marijuana if they choose to do so. but right now, you can get a pack of gummy bears. you put 10 of them in their. if it is not a marijuana product, most people who see a small packet of 10 gummy bears assume you eat all 10 gummy bears. that's why we think extra cautions need to be taken, that each individual piece would be wrapped and that might help consumers, guide consumers, that they should not ingest too much.
2:14 pm
we really need to do everything we can. people not the marijuana of my generation or older saw decades ago. this is very strong marijuana. everything from the actual buds that people are smoking to now we have all of these concentrates that can be put in the e-cigarettes. baking is very popular here -- vaping is very popular here. i think 40% of the medical marijuana market is in the edible market. it is far more potent. people need to be educated about this and primarily our youth. i will get back to our youth because that is our organization's primary concern. our youth use is very high. and now we are starting to see these studies saying how damaging marijuana is to a developing brain. that is really the concern.
2:15 pm
have 14, 15, 16-year-olds using this because they think it is medicine, it will help them concentrate, it will help them with depression and anxiety, these are some of the reasons that high schoolers are telling us why they are using marijuana, but it is very confusing for our kids and we have not done an adequate job informing them of the facts and how this is a very harmful product for adolescents, for the developing brain. and people -- and kids really need to stay away from marijuana. that is our main message. host: gina carbone talking about recreational marijuana here to answer your questions. the phone lines are divided by region and you will see them on the screen. if you live in colorado and you want to give your perspective,
2:16 pm
here is a line for you. the first call is from felicia. say from aanted to 15 years ago, well, my auntie was dying from cancer and marijuana was a demon drug. 15 years later, she is a strong survivor of cancer. marijuana is maybe for the use. -- people get sick off of candy. have overdosed on meth and pharmaceutical drugs in your country -- in your county? and i want to say people are so busy taxing marijuana.
2:17 pm
how about the war on drugs and how it has devastated the african american community? host: gina carbone, do you take anything from that? guest: i guess i would just like to say, too, i would like to discriminate -- distinguish between criminalization, legalization and commercialization. commercialization is where we see the stars in the advertising and the tactics we have seen from big tobacco throughout the years that are really influencing our young people. and making marijuana seem extremely mainstream in our communities. for people that have cancer, certainly,y, if -- if their doctor is prescribing a certain strain of marijuana and it makes them feel better, you know, that is not my business.
2:18 pm
again, we are really concerned with the commercialization of marijuana and how it is affecting our communities and our kids in colorado. that is really what we are seeing. host: carl from crownsville, maryland. caller: good morning. i keep hearing that there has never been a study, there has never been a study. president nixon authorized a two-year in-depth study to find out the detrimental effects of marijuana. when he found that there were no detrimental effects, he classified the study. i would suggest that these two people have deep-seated psychological problems prior to the ingestion of marijuana. actually, to your latter point, i don't know exactly about that study that nixon did. that is interesting. but the latter point, i am here in colorado and from everything that i understand it talking to
2:19 pm
the families and friends, these two individuals actually did not have psychological problems prior to this. really, really, really tragic, tragic accidents. host: so is it in both cases they simply ate too much of the product? is what -- yes, what the investigation and the toxicology report is pointing out. i know for a fact that the 19-year-old did not have anything in his system aside from the marijuana. of marijuana is a lot of marijuana for someone that has never ingested it. guest: jeremy from catskill new york. good morning. caller: good morning. this is already in line with the last question. the federal government holds a on -- what is it, patent
2:20 pm
663057, which is a cure cureuana and cbd as a for various diseases. and the second part to my , here in new york, we just had the medical marijuana bill passed. one of the things on the news was cuomo had actually suggested from confiscated marijuana arrests as a source for the medicine that they would provide for the patients, which is obviously in my opinion absurd confiscated,d take unregulated medicine and then hand that out to cancer patients. so if you have any comment about that. host: we will finish it there and let our guests respond. guest: yeah, i would agree.
2:21 pm
really, for those few people that are really using medical marijuana for medical purposes, i mean, sure, it needs to be monitored more carefully. it needs to be administered like a regular pharmacy. we don't have that going on in colorado. there are a lot of abuses in colorado. are seeing a huge spike -- even though we have recreational marijuana here in largedo, we are seeing a increase in people getting red cards which allows people to get medical marijuana, print to gillooly the 18 to 20-year-olds -- particularly the 18 to 20-year-olds. they are finding a way to get marijuana via our medical marijuana system. tose kinds of abuses do have stop because the cancer patients or hiv patients, the very few patients that are actually using it for truly medicinal purposes
2:22 pm
and not just to get high like the vast majority of people in colorado that have red cards, that is what the recent audits said. many, many people are using it for general pain. we do have a recreational market that is taxing it and those people should go to the recreational market if they just want to get high. gina carbone, there is a story in the paper today about a recent sweep by denver place of shops to make sure they are not selling to those under 21. the story suggested that it seemed to be ok or everything seems to be on the up and up. does that come for you at any level? guest: again, our young people are not going to walk into a store and try to get medical marijuana. a lot of these places now have security guards standing right there. as i said before, many high schoolers have the right cards and that is how it is getting into the hands of teenagers. neighbors, siblings,
2:23 pm
whatever, it is extremely easy to get a medical marijuana license in colorado. 46%, well over a 40% in the last year alone, of 18 to 20-year-olds who are now getting medical marijuana cards. so that is how our youth, our teenagers are getting it. date is from other siblings. sometimes it is the parents marijuana. not storing it properly. a lot of these are -- a lot of these items have to be refrigerated. we really need to educate kids about the harms of marijuana for young people with a developing brain. that development goes into your mid-20's. 18, 19, 20-year-olds need to understand the harm that can come, the cognitive deficits that can come from using marijuana as an adolescent.
2:24 pm
adolescents are more prone to becoming addicted. are theone in six numbers we have seen versus one in nine for addiction for an adult. so i get back to kids and parents need to be aware that this is a very unsafe product for young people. host: we had a chance to go through the medicine man dispense rate while we were in colorado a few weeks ago. we had a chance to talk about, for those leaving the store with candies and other types of products, the kinds of levels of regulation that deal with the products and the packaging and how they leave the stores. i want you to listen to a little bit of the interview and respond to it. >> this packaging is a completely white pill bottle, tamper-resistant on the top. you cannot see the candy like product that is in their. it might be sweet and tasty but it contains a point as well. you definitely don't want
2:25 pm
anybody under the age getting a hold of this. >> so this is a childproof cap so to speak. thehis company has taken extra measure to put a chucker of cap, but the regulation is to absolutely make sure you cannot see through that bottle. they would not know it's candy by looking at. inwhat about candies packages? >> this is a pageant you cannot see through. instead of a plastic see-through, they are making is no telling a child looking at that candy that it would think it was candy. .nce you have a pill bottle >> when people walk out of here, they walk out with these white envelopes. what is this? >> it is required now by state packets child safety
2:26 pm
law, it needs to be in a resealable, tamper-resistant container. >> you can hold up for folks to show. >> the zipper sits on that tab. when it is closed, it is not moving at all. host: you probably did not have the benefit of seeing it, but he did say that there are child and when they leave the stores, the white bags have some type of locking mechanism. guest: i am very familiar with that. host: can you respond to it? guest: i am actually familiar with what he is talking about because that is part of the regulations that smart colorado was involved in last year in the legislative process, trying to ensure that it was invisible. that particular company that we you -- that you are talking about might have childproof packaging on their product. not all of them do. there is something called exit packaging, childproof averaging
2:27 pm
that, if someone buys six different items at the store, it will go into -- it is similar to a ziploc bag. but it is more difficult to get into. after i think two or three openings, then it he comes -- then it just becomes a ziploc bag. but it is supposed to be more secure than other packaging. that is a great start. we pushed for that. we wanted that. we will -- we think the labeling is very important. booke also confirmed -- what we are all stashed what we are also concerned about is we do not have a public education campaign. there are banner ads and social media telling youth not to use this product and that it is damaging to developing brains. and, i might add, washington state has not quite
2:28 pm
opened their stores yet and they already have that campaign going. we have 340 stores your. we just haven't gotten a rolling it. guest: we will take a call from sam in iowa. i am glad they are protecting juveniles from this. my problem is the 18 to 21-year-olds. they can hold a gun and fight for our country at 18 years old. but they are not allowed to smoke a plant because they are still considered children. we have had the edible marijuana in california for years. crazy't have any of those things you're talking about where people kill themselves over it. host:. i will let our guest respond. guest: --
2:29 pm
host: the age of 18, basically, an 18-year-old still has a developing brain. with that agent that person shouldn't be using it because they are entitled to fight or they can carry a gun or anything. an 18-year-old is still developing. their brain is not fully developed. that is just the way it goes until their mid-20's. that is the reason we are saying that, even 18-year-olds need to be cautious about. they, too, can suffer from cognitive abilities, cognitive deficits, should say if they are early and persistent users. caller: good morning to both of you. i have a couple of points. forgive me if i misquote you.
2:30 pm
you mentioned something in the that thiswhere, now has taken effect in colorado, we have people that just want to make a buck. and i have to say that is a bit prejudiced-sounding to me. when anything new in america everybody wants to get on the wave and make a buck, especially if it is legal. guest: sure. like toalso, i would say that i really appreciate what you are doing for the children as well. guest: thank you. i appreciate that. i just think we do need to look beyond money. we really need to look at how this is going to affect our communities, our public health policies, our safety going forward. drugs and driving has gone up in colorado. unfortunately, we have seen that.
2:31 pm
we have seen marijuana being diverted outside of colorado. we so have a lot of issues to work on. the industry likes to say we are getting rid of the black market yet colorado has become the black market at least for the rest of the country. a gentleman called from new york earlier. i was just recently in new york and i know that colorado pot is going to new york. it is going to florida. it is going all over the place. it is very potent and people want the high thc. so colorado has become the black market. but thank you for the compliment about what we are doing for the kids. caller: jodi talks about thc. would you say that thc levels, if they remain high, would education be enough to cover it rather than lowering thc levels? >> there are even people in the industry that have talked about
2:32 pm
proofing marijuana come if you will, similar to alcohol, so that people know how strong this is. just -- because marijuana has become so much stronger over the years, there ,s an education for, again people my age and older to realize that this is a very strong product. there are concentrates -- this is what a budtender told me today. you can take one hit and you are high all day long. that is not how it was several decades ago. but when kids are using these vaper pens in the classroom and having these edibles that are like regular food items -- any food item can become a medical product in colorado now. it is hard for schools and hard for parents to identify this. that is something that colorado is looking into, to make sure
2:33 pm
that the marijuana product is identifiable and looks different. unfortunately, those rules probably will not go into effect until 2016. the vaping is very popular in high school and with kids cook, too. very, very is strong. host: we have been showing some of these edible products. --y have a can of our look they have a candy bar look. do the rules with amendment 64 talk about the style of packaging involved with the edible product? guest: the packaging itself has to be opaque. you are not supposed to be able to see through it. the item itself though, like i said, anything pretty much under sun right now can become
2:34 pm
a marijuana product. so it is beyond the brownies in the cookies and the candy and soda. get pizzao, you can and ice cream, salad dressing, pasta sauce. the list goes on. there really is no limitation in that regard and that is troubling because it is just becoming so prevalent. a lot of people that supported amendment 64, we hear from people all the time that said i had no idea it was going to be like this. it has become so commercial here in colorado. part of our denver post newspaper has its own section dedicated to marijuana. our colorado symphony is hosting talk concerts -- pot concerts. we have the denver fair. events,have marijuana
2:35 pm
plantn grow the best pot and joint-rolling contest and things like that. it is becoming such a way of life here in colorado and frankly people that even voted for amendment 64, the legalization, had no idea that it would look like this and it would become so commercialized. a lot of people felt like it was just for small amounts of marijuana for adults in the privacy of their own home. yet we have open and public use all over denver. whether it is in our parks -- they are try to get a handle on it but it is very difficult. host: plainview, texas. this is james. caller: first and foremost, i believe that it is the parents responsibility to be able to monitor their children. i am a psychiatric patient. marijuana, use of
2:36 pm
they would cause me to go out -- homicidal and it's a frantic. host: james, appreciate the call. gina carbone. guest: first, i wish you good luck and i hope that you are in the care of a good doctor. regarding the responsibility of the parents, sure, parents have to educate their children and look after what they are doing. but one we live in a society where the marijuana industry is hosting events and we see people openly smoke in the parks and having these huge for 20 events, food trucks that are driving with foodh marijuana like they did that weekend, there comes a point where, if we
2:37 pm
are going to be selling this and it is going to be available in our community, it also is the responsibility of elected officials to ensure that it is implemented the way it was sold to voters, which is it won't be used in public. it is for private consumption. it is to be used only by adults. it is not to leave the state. coloradoose issues really needs to still work on. we are having issues with all of those points. host: ultimately, as far as the rules are today, what more would you want to see? guest: there is still clearly the regulations on the edibles. i thinktypes of edibles is an issue that we need to look at. really, should we allow every and any kind of food to become an edible? we don't have the fda looking
2:38 pm
after these food products. we still have problems like salmonella and botulism -- well, various health problems with these foods just because they aren't refrigerated. they are past their shelflife. there are others at -- other issues besides the thc. so that would be an area, the edibles. is like i said, this vaping quite a big deal particularly for our young people. it has become very ocular. the -- very popular. and make concentrates are very potent. desperately need this application program that the governor is working on to rollout. we should get a curriculum in our public schools go, to. schools, too.
2:39 pm
well, the data collection is extremely important. we really haven't been keeping great statistics on marijuana use in terms of people going into the er. they are starting to do it now. but to really create sound public policy, we need accurate data. i would argue that is very important going forward also. host: gina carbone with smart colorado. there is a website if you want to find out more a >> american university professor benjamin jensen talks about the latest of elements in iraq, syria and the region. partisan polarization in the u.s. and what it could
2:40 pm
mean for future elections. as always, we will take your calls and you can join the conversation at facebook and twitter. "washington journal" on c-span. our endowment is the largest amount and is pretty healthy. just shy of $600 million. to put that in perspective, at $6 billion. harvard, which represents the pinnacle of endowment is $24 billion. they have a $6 billion campaign going on right now. if we are going to aspire to have that type of excellent facilities to produce that type of excellence on our campus, we have to have that type of investment. it is my response ability now -- to go out and now
2:41 pm
ensure that we expand. >> howard university's interim president on the challenges facing the predominantly black university. >> now you can keep in touch with current events from the nation's capital using any phone, anytime. c-span radio on audio now. you congressional coverage, public affairs forms and today's washington journal program. listen to a recap of the days events at 5:00 p.m. eastern on "washington today." beginning sundays at noon eastern. c-span radio and audio now. long-distance or phone charges may apply. several active-duty service members became u.s. citizens yesterday at a naturalization ceremony held by the white
2:42 pm
house. the entire event, which included remarks from president obama was just under 20 minutes. >> good morning. i have the privilege of serving of uniteding director states citizenship and immigration services. individuals who have chosen the united states as their adoptive country and have decided to take the important steps of becoming united states citizens. their commitment and dedication to this country should serve as an inspiration to all americans. ,andidates for naturalization when you hear your country of current nationality, please
2:43 pm
2:44 pm
each of the candidates has been interviewed by an officer of u.s. citizenship and immigration demonstratedhas the ability to read, write and speak words in the english language. each has demonstrated his or her knowledge and understanding of the history and principles and form of government of the united states. and recommend that these candidates be administered the oath, thereby admitting that the united states citizenship. >> thank you. andpresident, candidates special guests come good morning. it is my distinct privilege to administer the oath of allegiance to the candidates for naturalization assembled here today. please raise your right hand and .epeat after me i hereby declare on oath that i absolutely and entirely renounce
2:45 pm
and abjure all allegiance and foreign prince, state or sovereignty of whom or a subject orbeen citizen. that i will support and defend the constitution and laws of the againsttates of america all enemies foreign and domestic . that i will bear true faith and saying andto this will bear arms on behalf of the when required by the law.
2:46 pm
that i will perform noncombatant in the armed forces of the united states when required by the law. that i will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law. and that i take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of so help me god. congratulations. [applause]
2:47 pm
please be seated. you are now united states citizens. citizens of a country that is defined by its principles of liberty, equality and justice for all. these are principles that you ask current and former members of our armed forces and their spouses have helped protect and defend even before becoming citizens of our great country. your patriotism, service and selflessness are remarkable and we celebrate you today. sister andbought my me to this country in 1960 as political refugees escaping the communist takeover of cuba.
2:48 pm
i was naturalized in 1973 and today i have the privilege of standing before you as a deputy secretary of homeland security in the service of our great president and our great country in administering the oath of allegiance to you. this country is like no other. a country that always has been and forever will remain a nation of immigrants. it is now my distinct honor and privilege to introduce the president of the united states, mr. barack obama. mr. president. [applause] >> thank you. thank you so much. thank you, everybody. please be seated. good morning and welcome to the white house. happy fourth of july! [applause] the deputy secretary, thank you for taking care of the important morning, which is
2:49 pm
administering the oath. that is the thing we wanted to make sure we got right. to dr. jones and the family, friends and distinguished guests, thank you all for being here. finally, to these 25 men and women, service members and spouses, it is an honor to join everyone here for the first time in calling you our fellow americans. this is one of my favorite events to do. not just because we get to have barbecue and watch fireworks later. it is because each of you has traveled a long journey to this moment. journeys began in places like jamaica, germany, china. , because your parents brought you here as children or because you made the
2:50 pm
choice to ourselves as adults, you ended up here in america. many of you did something extraordinary. you signed up to serve in the united states military. you answered the call to fight and potentially give your life for a country that you do not fully belong to yet. us understood what makes american is not just circumstances of birth or the names and our family tree. it is the time was believed that we are one. we are bound together by adherence to a set of beliefs. and unalienable rights. we have certain obligations to each other. to look after each other and to serve one another. over the years, that is exactly what you have done. rodrigo came to the united states from the philippines and he said hevy because
2:51 pm
wanted to be part of something big and important. to be part of a great cause. , he is still part of that great cause and today is an american citizen. stephanie moved here from canada years old.s 18 today, she is 26 and a sergeant in the army. she joined the military to give her children someone to look up to and someone they could be proud of. i know you have made your children and all of us very proud. oscar gonzalez he came a marine last year. becoming a citizen means becoming part of a society that strives and stands for good all around the world. being a part of that makes me youlete. oscar, welcoming as american citizen makes our country a little more complete. so thank you.
2:52 pm
there are those of you who married an american service member. as a military spouse, you have been serving our country as well. donna is originally from kenya. i met her husband in germany. atay, she is a nurse frederick memorial hospital in maryland and she and her husband have four beautiful children. becoming a citizens of united states is like joining a club of the best of the best. i agree. congratulations on joining the club. together, all of you remind us that america is and always has been a nation of immigrants. throughout our history, immigrants have come to our shores in wave after wave. from every corner of the globe. every one of us come unless we are native american, has an ancestor born somewhere else. although we have not always looked the same or spoken the same language, as americans, we
2:53 pm
have done big things together. we won this countries freedom together and defended our way of life together. we have continued to perfect our union together. that is what makes america special. that is what makes a strong. the basic idea of welcoming immigrants to our shores is central to our way of life. it is in our dna. we believe our diversity and differences when joined together by a common set of ideals makes a stronger. makes us more creative. makes us different. from all these different strands, we make something new here in america. that is why, if we want to keep attracting the best and brightest from beyond our shores, we have to fix our immigration system, which is broken. we should not be making it harder for the best and the brightest to come here and create jobs here and grow our economy here. we should be making it easier.
2:54 pm
--t is why i will keep doing [applause] i will keep doing everything i can do to keep making our immigration system smarter and more efficient so hard-working men and women like all of you have the opportunity to join the american family and to serve our great nation so we can be stronger and more prosperous and more whole feather. -- more whole together. george was an immigrant from el niño -- armenia who became a chef. "you who have been born in america, i wish i could make you understand what it is like to not be an american. not to have been an american all your life. and then suddenly to be one for that moment and forever after."
2:55 pm
country,l across the from thomas jefferson's monticello to the alamodome in texas, immigrants from around the world are taking the oath of citizenship. many of them have worked and sacrificed for years to get to this moment. somethingm have done none of us should ever take for granted. --e to be called an american even to be called an american forever after. that should give us hope and make us confident about the future of our country. as long as men and women like all of you who are willing to give so much for the right to call yourselves americans and as long as we do our part to keep the door open to those were willing to earn their will keep onwe growing our economy and continue to journey forward and remind the world why united states of
2:56 pm
america is and always will be the greatest nation on earth. we are very proud of you. congratulations. god bless you, got blessed united states of america and i will turn it back over to the deputy secretary. congratulations. [applause] >> united states has always benefited from the contributions of immigrants. from entrepreneurs, scientists, teachers and cultural icons to members of the united states armed forces. their achievements enrich us all. we have the privilege of recognizing one such individual who, through his civic contributions and professional achievements, has demonstrated his commitment to our country and to the common values that unite us as americans. those of you who have become citizens today, he was not born
2:57 pm
in this country. he is in american by choice. andres received his united states citizenship in november and 13. -- november 2013. he began volunteering in the d.c. central kitchen and is now the organization's chairman and america's. -- chairman emeritus. has worked alongside mrs. obama for the let's move campaign to end childhood obesity and is developing a school-age integrated food curriculum with the program "school without walls." while running restaurants across the country, including restaurants -- local restaurants. hosea address has received dozens of awards for his culinary innovations, including
2:58 pm
the james. --rd for outstanding chef james beard award for most outstanding chef. he was recognized with the esteemed hispanic heritage award and in 2012, time magazine named him one of the world's 100 most influential people. ndres, it is our honor to name you as an outstanding american by choice. congratulations. [applause]
2:59 pm
>> to conclude, everyone, please rise for the pledge of allegiance led by one of our newest americans come unite states army sergeant stephanie van housel. allegiance to the flag of the united states of america. and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, in the visible with liberty and justice for all -- indivisible with liberty and justice for all. [applause] >> thank you, everybody. all invited to the
3:00 pm
barbecue later. and again, wetite are so very proud of you and grateful to. -- grateful to you. our country is better for you being a part of it. happy fourth of july! >> book tv recently sat down with hillary clinton to discuss her new book here at among several topics she talked at her time of the state department. watch this tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern.
3:01 pm
>> this historic landmark built in 1839 mixes 175 years old. was the oldest surviving building in jackson. we are standing inside the old gallery here at the old capital where we discuss a number of revivallike greek architecture. very much a symmetrical building with beautiful columns the rotunda dome is the distinction most people look at. we always ask our visitors to look at and look at the dome rising. this is about 175 years old. he was a native of england.
3:02 pm
he had done a lot of work in other state capitals. on to design our governor's mansion. the literary life of jackson mississippi. >> for over 35 years, c-span brings public affair evidence from washington directly to you, briefingsthe room at and conferences and offering complete gavel-to-gavel coverage of the u.s. house. we are brought to you as a public service by your local cable or satellite provider. follow us on twitter. the european parliament is its budget to asfirm john kline juncker the next president of the european union. his nomination was decided at
3:03 pm
the end of june against strong opposition from david cameron. he recently addressed members about his concerns over the decision. currenttion is when our -- this portion is one hour. >> i would like to make a statement on the european council. let me briefly report back on two other points. first, the council began in april with a moving ceremony to mark the 100th anniversary of the gunshots in sarajevo that led to the first world war. it is right we should take special steps to commemorate the century of this and her armor the extraordinary sacrifice of a generation who gave their lives for our freedom. the government is determined to
3:04 pm
ensure britain has fitting national commemoration, including the reopening of a newly refurbished imperial war museum what the -- next month. second, the council signed association agreements with all bovine ukraine number reflecting our commitment to supporting these countries as they take difficult reforms that will bolster their democracies and improve the stability of the whole continental stop the president join the council to discuss the immediate situation in ukraine. the council welcomed his plan and the extension of the cease-fire until this evening. the onus is on russia to respond positively by pressing for a genuine cease-fire -- cease-fire and return occupied border posts to ukrainian authorities. the council agreed if we do not see concrete progress soon, we remain willing to impose further sanctions on russia which would not necessarily require a further meeting of the council, but the council itself would return to this issue at its next meeting which has been arranged for the 16th of july. turning to the appointment of the next commission president, i firmly believe it should be for the european council, elected
3:05 pm
heads of national council to oppose the head of the european commission. it should not be for european parliament to try to do tape that choice to the council. this is a point of principle upon which i was not prepared to budge. in taking this is edition, i welcome the support of the leader of the opposition as well as the deputy prime minister in opposing the imposition of john claude junker. i believe they could have found a candidate who commanded the support of every member state of stop that has been the practice on every previous occasion and i think it was a mistake to abandon this approach this time. of course the mothers a reason why no veto is available when it comes to this decision. that is because the last government signed a treaty that gave up our veto for the nomination of the commission president as well as the lisbon treaty which gave the parliament stronger rights to elect the commission president.
3:06 pm
once it was clear the council was determined to proceed, i insisted the european council took a formal vote. facing the prospect of being outvoted, some might have swallowed it and gone with the flow but i believe it was important to push the principal and are deep misgivings about this issue right till the end. if the european council was going to let the european parliament choose the next commission this way, i wanted to put written's opposition firmly on the record. i believe this was a bad day for europe because the decision of the council risks undermining the position of national governments and risks undermining the power of national parliament by handing further power to the european parliament. while the nomination has been
3:07 pm
decided and must be accepted, it is important the council agrees to reconsider how to handle the appointment of the next commission president next time this happens, and that is set out in the council's conclusion. turning to the future, we must work with a new commission president as we always do to secure our national interests. i spoke to him last night -- >> the statement by the prime minister must he heard. his great interest in questioning the prime minister and there will be a time to do so but courtesy digg eights the prime minister must be heard. >> he repeated his commitment to address risk concerns about the eu. this whole process only underlines my conviction that europe needs to change. some modest progress was made in arguing for reform. the council conclusions make absolutely clear the focus of the mandate for the next five years must be on building stronger economies and creating jobs, exactly as agreed with leaders of sweden, germany and the netherlands the summer.
3:08 pm
the council underlined needs to address concerns about immigration arising from misuse from or fraudulent claims on the right of freedom of movement. national parliament should have a stronger role and the eu should only act were aches a real difference. we broke new ground, stating specifically that every union must allow for different parts of immigration for different countries and respect the wishes of those like britain that do not want further integration. for the first time, all my fellow 27 heads of government have agreed explicitly that they need to address britain's concerned about the european union. that has not been said before. while europe has taken a big step act words, we did secure some small steps for for britain and its relationship with the
3:09 pm
eu. mr. speaker, last week off outcome will make renegotiations with the europeans harder and it certainly makes the stakes higher. there will always be huge challenges in this long campaign to reform the european union. but, with determination, i believe we can deliver. we cut the budget and got britain out of the bailout scheme and retrieve day fundamental reform of the disastrous fisheries policy and made progress on the red tape. we're making progress on the free-trade deals vital to new growth and jobs in britain. my colleagues in the european council no that britain wants and needs reforms and they know britain sticks to its position. mr. speaker, and european elections, people cried out for change across the continent and they deserve a voice. britain will be the voice of those people. we will always stand up for our
3:10 pm
principles and we will always defend our national interests and we will fight with all we have to reform the you over the next few years. at the end of 2017, it will not be me or the end of this parliament that decides written's future and european union, it will be the british people. >> mr. speaker, i start by joining the premised are in remembering all of those who lost their lives in the first world war and it is right we will be marking their sacrifice at ease events throughout this year. i also welcome the association agreement with georgia, moldova, and ukraine and i endorse the sentiments about the responsibilities of the russian government. mr. speaker, the truth is the prime minister returned to britain on friday having failed. not a mild, small failure, but an appalling failure of relationship building, winning support, and delivering for britain. i know it's inconvenient to remind him, but he lost by 26 votes to two.
3:11 pm
and then he comes to this chamber and seems to claim it as a complete vindication. his party may think it represents splendid isolation. it is not. it is utter humiliation. he said with a mandate from all major parties, including labor, he could build an alliance to stop mr. junker. he started with a divided europe over the candidacy and ended with a united europe against him. he did not say how did he think he pulled off this remarkable achievement will stop what did the german chancellor say at the start of the process? she said this -- the agenda of the next european commission can be handled by junker but also by many others.
3:12 pm
at the end, there will be a broad tableau of names on the table. mr. speaker, how did we end up with only one name and how did she and 25 others and up supporting him? the threats him insult and disengagement toward out to be a master class to alienate your allies. including his red to leave the european union if mr. junker was chosen. we already went rowing in a boat with chancellor merkel in a swedish lake in order to win support. but what did she say afterwards? she said this -- threats are not part and parcel of the european spirit.
3:13 pm
this is not part of the way in which we usually proceed. we know who she was talking about. she was talking about him and what happened is great allies in europe? it has been suggested we now lack allies will stop mr. speaker, all he needed to do to block mr. junker was persuade the people in the vote. everyone voted against them. the dutch prime minister voted against him. the german chancellor voted against them. now he wants to imply all of this shows every other european leaders equally unprincipled.
3:14 pm
the health secretary went as far to say everyone else was a coward. is that how he would describe his fellow european leaders? isn't there another more possible explanation? the problem is a toxic supporter, him. isn't the reality that he could not attract any allies because the rest of europe simply lost patience as a result of his actions, not just in the last few weeks but in the last few years? it comes down to this -- when he comes calling, they believe he's doing so to solve the problems of a conservative party not the problems of the european union. take the polish foreign minister. he is an angle fire -- he is an anglophile and this is what he said -- he is not interested, he does not get it, his whole strategy of feeding them scrap
3:15 pm
in order to satisfy them is turning against him. he ceded the field to those who are now embarrassing him. >> mr. ellis, calm yourself, man. only this morning, a teacher said to me in speaker's house, how can i tell a little boy in my class to behave when parliamentarians don't? be a good boy. get the message. >> maybe he can tell us whether he agrees with the assessment of the polish foreign minister and who can blame the polish foreign for thinking this? every time his prime minister has had a major decision to make, he's put party interest before national interests. he walked out of the european people's party nine years ago and earlier this month, through in his hat with the german equivalent.
3:16 pm
how did that go down with chancellor merkel? isn't that decision eight care -- a parable of his failure to lead for britain? short term heart he management and huge long-term losses for britain's national interest. three years ago, he walked out of the european council announcing he had vetoed the treaty but it went ahead yesterday and he looked absurd. now, mr. speaker, you want to negotiate a new treaty when you can say what you want in it. all the time, driven by a party you center of gravity is drifting toward access. mr. speaker, doesn't he accept that the strategy of threatening exit was put to the test and failed? >> i know they don't want to hear about his failure, but can they hear it? doesn't he agree that the great irony, the thing that makes it even worse is the prime minister is a great supporter of britain's membership of the european union?
3:17 pm
we agree we should be in the european union, but mr. speaker, doesn't he agree the problem he has is the gap tween what people behind him are demanding and it what sensible european reform amounts to? europe is not under formable, it's just that he cannot do it. >> order. the role of the prime minister's pps is to fetch and carry notes and not an shake his head in the right places. mr. williamson, be quiet all stop if you can't be quiet, get out, man. >> mr. speaker, he could not get for countries to support him and if he cannot get for countries to block the appointment of a president, how on earth is he
3:18 pm
going to get the seven countries to support a new treaty? this weekend has shown conclusively to everyone but this prime minister that his negotiating strategy is in tatters all stop and we know where it would end. he would be caught in the gulf between what he believes and what he can negotiate. the prime minister failed over mr. junker. >> order. i'm quite sure the opposition would bring the remarks to a close. and the mob should calm itself so he has the opportunity to do so. >> he was out maneuvered and out voted. and the building are losses, he's burning them. he cannot deliver for britain. >> the prime minister. >> we had yet another performance where [inaudible]
3:19 pm
endless wind, and less rhetoric, no question and no ability to stand up for britain. i have to say i won't take lectures on negotiation from the people who gave away the veto, who gave away the rebate, who backed down on the budget every year, and who signed us up -- we won't take any lessons from them. we did not have a veto in this situation because they signed the lisbon treaty. always opposed on this side of the house. when he talks about the ability to get together allies -- where were his allies in the socialist party? they had a meeting in paris. all the key socialist leaders were there. they all decided to support
3:20 pm
jean-claude uecker. -- john claude junker. i have to say to the right honorable jerome and that not once did he actually say he did not support him either. and i have to say to support the government over opposing this principle and this individual only to criticize and complain is typical of his approach -- week, opportunistic and wrong. >> may i express to our prime minister my admiration. that is determined opposition to the election of the man to the presidency of the european union who is wedded to the idea of closer political and economic union and to the freedom of movement of peoples which would
3:21 pm
siphon huge numbers of further immigrants into this country. but may i deplore be provocative decision of the european union to move its economic front here to within 300 miles of moscow, which will certainly be regarded by russia as a strategic threat to which they will respond. >> can i say to my right old friend, i completely agree will about the importance of recognizing the freedom of movement is not an unqualified
3:22 pm
right and it's properly qualified with respect to benefit abuse. where i do not agree with the father of the house is the eastern partnership stake eu has entered into actually can help to embed market economics and democracies in those countries. it's very important to stress with respect to ukraine or although that this is not like asking countries about which group they want to fit into, whether they want to choose between having a good relationship with russia or a good relationship with the eu. they should be able to have good relationships with both. >> why is always such a magnificent victory to him? >> i always prefer when we succeed in cutting the eu budget or when we succeed in the regulation. there are times it is important to stand up or principle and not to give in no matter what the pressure. it doesn't matter how may countries were against me, it
3:23 pm
was the wrong candidate, the wrong principles and there are were times you stick to your guns. >> does the prime minister agree the conclusion of the european council were both unprecedented and very helpful? instead of simply referring to a two speed europe which imply we all end up at the same destination. those who want to deepen integration, we must allow that but also respect the wishes of those who do not want to give in any further. does this not represent real progress with regard to one of the main objectives from the united kingdom?
3:24 pm
>> i think my friend is right. it's one of the toughest things we are asking for and the renegotiations. in this context, the concept allows for different parts of immigration, those who want to deepen immigration to move ahead while respect ingo wish of those who do not want to deepen any further. the conclusion also said there are concerns tomorrow and those concerns need to be addressed. >> thank you, mr. speaker. can i welcome the prime minister for the enlargement of the eu with the announcement albania has become the sixth candidate country to join? >> i agree with the honorable gentleman that the enlargement process has an successful in driving the development and improving the democracy and development of these countries and i further agree that
3:25 pm
engaging with them now because a country like albania has challenges developing its economy and getting into democracy. there will have to be a totally new approach to transitional controls. >> don't the antecedents of this problem go back to the fateful decision of the prime minister when he was running for his party leadership to approve the conservatives from the european people's party? mr. juncker was the candidate of the epp. they could have influenced him in private rather than impotence in public. it would have been good for his party and good for the government and my goodness, far better for britain.
3:26 pm
>> i have great respect for the right old john. but i think he is profoundly wrong about this. the liberal democrats -- you were not able to stop the leading candidate process in that group will stop they were completely incapable of stopping the candidate process in that group. there were members of the epp that did not approve of it but still could not stop but. the idea that we would be able to stop it is complete nonsense. >> 26-2 is not just the score for the prime minister's most successful negotiation, it's also the score for the countries who are either in the euro our treaty obligations to be in the euro. if he wants to stand up for britain's interests, to make sure our interests are reflected
3:27 pm
as the euro zone requires political integration. >> the honorable lady is absolutely right to stop what we need to secure is the european union where eurozone members need to integrate further can but members of the single market, particularly those like britain who do not want to join the euro can stay out of the integration and actually return powers to nationstates will stop i explained in these detailed negotiations that we made some progress on ever closer union's and setting out specific concerns that britain had. but we have a long way to go. the job has gotten harder but there are many who understand you need a totally different approach to eurozone immersed. >> i commend my most honorable friend. on that overriding principle, national or laments are the root
3:28 pm
of our democracy. for which people over the years have fought and died not only to save this country but europe as well. the european commission recently asserted -- and is now headed by mr. juncker, that the european parliament is really effective armament for the european union. does he agree with me that we must assert our national parliament and it must avail and therefore he is completely right in what he did this weekend? >> my honorable friend makes an important point. there are those in europe that say the only democratic legitimacy in europe is the european parliament and somehow the parliament is the essence of democracy. this is completely wrong.
3:29 pm
it consists of president to have a much bigger democratic mandate been the european parliament. if there is another such election like this, you could have a candidate for the commission presidency that was deeply against the interest of other member states. perhaps a candidate who did not believe the baltic states belonged in the european union. that is why the principles at stake are so important. >> initially, sweden, poland and italy expressed reservations about the appointment of mr. juncker. what does the president -- what is the prime minister think is needed to change their mind
3:30 pm
? >> all of these countries in one way or another had signed up for the leading candidate process. the european political families, starting with the socialist, decided to appoint a candidate a wanted for the commission and epp and liberals followed suit. they find themselves strapped to a conveyor belt of their own making which they could not get off. that's what happened. that is why we rightly opposes right till the end. >> i encourage the prime minister to return to the reform. long after the indignation is spent coming issue of reform will be absolutely fundamental to the future of the european union and our relationship with the stop not withstanding the disappointment, the president has been magmatic hopper ticket early with the telephone call of
3:31 pm
congratulations to mr. juncker. there is much that can be done without treaty change. is it not time for the rigorous application and personality which do not need treaty change, only political will? >> i agree that there are changes that can be made but my view is the sort of renegotiations written needs, we should be accompanying the treaty changes the eurozone in time will meet with treaty changes that will suit written in a way the honorable member pointed out as a country that wants to be in the single market but does not want to join the euro. >> can i gently suggest that it is the wrong people cheering. how exactly has britain us national interests been advanced by his recent posturing? >> it advances britain's interested people know the british prime minister and the public will set out on a
3:32 pm
principle and stick to it. all too often under the labor government, they did not stick to that principle. they caved in on the budget year after year and signed up to eurozone bailouts and if they stuck to their principles, they might have been more respected. >> much has been made of divisions inside the party over this issue. will the prime minister agree that indeed the opposite is true? as a one nation tory who believes in our membership of the european union, i was proud of the way he stood up for british interests. will he also agreed these socialist groups -- mr. martin shilts makes mr. juncker look like a skeptic. i think there is an important point and knees processes began because the european political
3:33 pm
parties to one after the other, decided to pick a leading candidate for the job. i did not have a candidate for the job as a political hearty leader because i think it is wrong to let the head of the commission in this way. that's the whole problem. i have to say the position labor would have been in if martin shilts ended up as commission president would have been even more embarrassing. >> mr. speaker, does the prime minister agree a british exit from the european union would be an economic disaster for this country and reduce british influence in europe and the world? >> it is not the outcome i seek. i want a secure and reform european union and i want britain to be part of that, but the problem with the honorable gentleman's position is the d
3:34 pm
not seem to see anything wrong with the current status quo. it's only on this side of house and this party that we know we need serious change in europe before we hold that referendum. >> i congratulate the prime minister. it is now time -- we are not in the euro. we do not want to join the political union. only with strong leadership can we have leadership that makes sense for britain.
3:35 pm
i am proud to have the unveiling of this. looking at the prime minister's behavior, we will need the assistance of other states on issues to come. does he think this behavior has made his job easier and more difficult? >> it is very striking when you stand underneath this. how many welshmen fell in that conflict? i was able to see my rate, great uncle who fought for the scottish battalion. in terms of the way that britain approach to this issue, everyone will be able to see we are making a serious argument about the wrong decision that europe is taking by having leading candidates appointed by political parties. we know he was going to be
3:36 pm
the commission president or the next five years. if we continue with this process we might have someone whose views are pathetic to one or more member states. the democratic legitimacy in europe should flow through the european council which is worthy elected heads of state said. nicholas, we are aware of this principle. europes support from our paean partners for a large element of reform. he will commit himself to the holding those of alliances necessary to help get the reforms and we can deliver what you promise. that is exactly what i will
3:37 pm
do. there are countries and leaders in europe that are clear about the need for reform. they want to see greater competitiveness. signing these, having a flexible union, not forcing everyone into the market, it even difficult issues like making sure this is a qualified right, this is something where you find leaders on the left and right in your waiting to support change. >> he says in his article this morning that it does not matter if he is isolated as long as he is in the correct position. the negotiation that he is embarking on, he needs the support not of one other member states but of all other member states. how they plan to move to securing the support.
3:38 pm
if he cannot secure, it he will end up recommending this. >> it is a right point what he makes. what he will do is told alliances that want to see change in europe. the swedish prime minister said the u.k. has friends in the eu. he should not occupy themselves. saidritish prime minister this is very important. thisit comes to renegotiation, there are many countries in the du that want to keep britain in and recognize real change will have to come. >> what will have to happen for rom his come back for hi
3:39 pm
negotiations? >> it is to always follow the natural interest to renegotiate our position in europe to secure the changes i have set out. i started believing we would not achieve those rings. take thiswanting to country. i always do what is in the natural interest. where are they? it is clear their hero -- there here today. can assess for themselves. mycongratulations on honorable friend on his stunning .eadership this week in
3:40 pm
encourage my friend to continue the standoff with those realare best served by the powers to the sovereign parliament. what is going to be a long and difficult came to reform the european union. hard toing to be recognize that they are going to see that when they stand for principle they stick to it. it is important for them to be able to say that a national consensus. parties he hopes other can have business. what changes they are
3:41 pm
after him what plans to the to claim ther has international interest rather than from a party. all, there was a quite detailed discussion to make sure we did everything we could to stop this conveyor belt as they take leis. i think we should build on that. i set out a very clear agenda. the british chamber of, as. >> were he not right to ignore those who had asked him to turn tales? right to stand his
3:42 pm
ground and has made it more likely that we would not have this in the future. >> there is always to sign up and try to seek some sort of extra bit of leverage on the way. this is an important principle. i thought europe was taking the wrong term. i was not going to turn away. does the prime minister not
3:43 pm
agree that any real attempts to get reform are going to come up against a wall of people who lead europe there what ever they to see acly want federal structure. isn't that the real issue? this has to be decided by a referendum. think she is right. it does require a referendum. about reforming bea to. aree have been and still people who sit round the table who say in the sleep the euro is the currency of the european union. thereare countries like that we have to get away from and towardg of that the thinking of this is not just about going different speeds.
3:44 pm
some countries it is going at different speeds to a slightly different direction. join the noing to border agreement. this needs to be hardwired. >> can i congratulate the prime minister? he made us all very proud. many of a fact that these now wish to see changes in europe? isldn't he agree that he speculating? couldn't it be that he is already ahead of the game? >> very grateful. hard-workingen as as she has been. i will put that right.
3:45 pm
i think there are people all aer europe who want to see more flexible approach and european reform. the european election reflected that. are these in the european council? tois like waking in the u.k. renegotiation? >> it is not right to make personal insults. that is not the approach i took. that i thoughtr this individual was the wrong person to take europe forward to. that was on the basis of experience and what he has explained in the past. they should play no part in this. the weekend policy of standing up for britain has gone down extraordinarily well in the
3:46 pm
south end. up 5%.lled this >> i was not aware of that. i will be following the reaction in the south and very closely. >> can the prime minister recall that at one time we had a prime minister who also thought that there should be the most fundamental reform of the common much huffingter and puffing he said he had gained the fundamental changes. he never defined what those words to be. they have a real choice this time. might they set up a red and blue line committees so they know from where you stand when it comes to the crucial
3:47 pm
negotiation's. some people set those out very clearly. we have got to get britain out of the union. we have got to end the abuse of the movement without profit safeguards. that if you dods not want to be in these affairs you should not be there. i respect the right a great deal. there is a fundamental difference between that situation and today. the european union has changed so much. you have those that is driving this. they will need more of a fiscal union and other elements of a transferred union. it is right for the british people to have the opportunity to express this on a very different union. it would lead the opposition of
3:48 pm
being a failure. virtue to stand up for what one believes in? it is not exactly want to compromise and succeed. what is not exactly vice nor virtue to be a feel year which is at the full procession of the opposition? has a very good point. the fact is the leaders of the principal party in britain agreed that this principle was the wrong one. as soon as times are difficulrt, chase.weak give up the theoes the prime minister's softly and carry a big step? if he does, how did he manage to
3:49 pm
everybody knows this prime minister is not only on the own strategy but useless here as well. secured a cut in the european budget. secured rogue rest for the single market and got us out of the scheme that his party signed up to in government. that is a track record of achievement. you can either give up and go along with the majority, which is what i suspect the leader of the opposition would have done or you stick to your principles and you make your arguments and stick to your guns. think my right honorable friend of bringing such refreshing transparency to the project?
3:50 pm
3:51 pm
leading candidate process. i do not think this actually has that big implication for future negotiations. harder.obably made it i suspect it has. if we show real fortitude and drive, there's no reason why we cannot succeed. >> thank you. can i congratulate my friend for his consistent talk. the government's of the day opposed the pardon paroled in the commission president. good thing and not to change it anyway. there is the surrender to power.
3:52 pm
>> my honorable friend is right. there were two key changes here. it made the appointment of the european commission. change gives them power. these were taken through. on both occasions with a whole lot of other changes were not put along with a referendum to the british hope. that is why the well of public opinion has been so poisoned in britain. it is change after change, power after power. this is why we need to have the renegotiation. this comes from the people who elect did us. we cannot change the rules of the game without asking their permission. they arelighted that so enjoying going down in flames. i'm looking forward to doing exactly the same next may.
3:53 pm
of conviction. it was handed down in the old bailey last week. the one thing that we have learned for certain about this prime minister that he met reassurances far too readily? >> i do not think i agree with any of that all. i think you said the council we are willing to oppose these sanctions on russia. do they do the other leaders of europe? does the president of russia agree on the definition of concrete progress?
3:54 pm
these are the steps that need to be used. what the president did was extend his cease-fire for a further 72 hours. what the european union will now have to do working with the these are additional put inns that need to be place. you can potentially go much further. >> there is the need for memorial. rededicated this. that, it is a part.
3:55 pm
they have the dictation roll buying of the economy at hand that resulted in quality for the countries. they do not give it to the solidarity fund. what are you going to do to get the best way for them to get out is to make sure they make the structural reforms. they have open markets. 2.8% faster than the countries in the eurozone. arguments hasgest nothing to do with the united kingdom at all. it was the members of the growth and stability fact arguing with
3:56 pm
each other. i think it is only underlining the fact that it was for to keep written there. minister agreeme that this is a sign of strength to which he could be rightly proud? >> an ingenious segue. what we saw today is is the this, it would simply cave-in. congratulateke to them for what was excellent over the weekend.
3:57 pm
people observed the ritual humiliation with a mixture of amusement and horror as it edged closer to the exit door. does the only way now for scotland to secure and eu membership to stop him from dragging scotland out of europe. inon a note of unity congratulating the city of stirling, it was an absolutely brilliant day. in terms of the reaction i had from people in inrling about what i taken the european union, i thought it was uniform apology. he a surprise as i to learn that the european elections were on you should be president of the european
3:58 pm
commission? >> he makes a good point. advertise themselves in britain at all. in fact, the epp did stand in britain. the idea that there was this is false.ates we have to accept the fact that other countries got on board belt.onveyor they found it very difficult to get off even when some of them doubts aboutome the principle. that is why in the conclusion it is important that we will have a review of what is going to happen. >> thank you.
3:59 pm
the reform of the eu will require leadership from written and a process alliance old thing with other heads of the states. how far does the prime minister hasg his isolation contributed to a positive outcome? when it comes to completing when it comesket, to different issues or reforming free movement of people who make sure it is more qualified there is support across europe. these are simply not true. >> they did exactly the right
4:00 pm
thing last week. >> will they make in -- will mye friend makes clear that millions of british people want a relationship based on trade and if the rest of the european union do not agree, it will be no surprise if people vote to leave the eu? very thankful for my honorable friend's remarks. referendum, he will make his views very clear. he is right it should be the british people's choice. my job is to make sure we secure the very best renegotiation so that people who want to stay in a reformed european union, who believe it is in our interest to do so get the best possible choice. andhe center for strategic international studies will host a discussion on mexico's
99 Views
IN COLLECTIONS
CSPAN Television Archive Television Archive News Search ServiceUploaded by TV Archive on