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one of my concerns is, like the graph you put up with the states and trafficking laws, the laws are focus on the traffickers and rightfully so. we also have to do with the guys that exploit the children and we need to change our mentality when we are in and talking about them as well. should be called child molesters. if you have sex with an underage child, you are a child molester. we need to change the way our society views this problem. i think addressing the demand is one of the things we need to do. in some states, when you are talking about adult prostitution, they put the pictures of the john's up or something. i think we need to figure out a way to a dress the demand. >> dave is next. >> the previous caller hit on exactly what i wanted to bring up. what is creating this demand?
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talking 60,004 trafficking reasons. i just do not buy it. guest: 60,000 for what? caller: this latest scandal unfolding on the border is creating an influx of immigrants into the nation. host: i guess he does not buy it. guest: ok. again, what our legislation is about is not kids on the border and hits from other countries. it is about kids born and raised here. what i said previously is that i am concerned that some of the children who are coming up here by themselves are sent here by traffickers and i am worried about if and when they get deported, that they are not put back in the hands of traffickers. that is not what our legislation is addressing. we are addressing a home grown problem.
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i am mostly talking about girls but boys are affected as well. >> lawmakers scoffed at a border funding plan. a democratic congressman is supporting legislation from his colleague, republican senator john cornyn, that some in the democratic party, including those majority leader harry reid have said, to broad, do not like it. do you agree and why? >> i have not read the bill yet but what i've heard about the bill, it changes the law that says youngthat people, miners, that come from other countries seeking refugee status that are not from mexico or canada have to have a court proceeding and do not automatically get deported. crisist believe in this we should change that law. theas put there during republican administration
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bipartisan support. i do not think it is time to fundamentally change the law. we need to adjust the crisis and in the president's plan, the call for money so we can increase -- decrease the time it takes to put the child through a proceeding where the child should also have legal representation which just not happen right now. can you imagine a seven-year-old or eight-year-old kid put in a courtroom with no one to help him? we need to stay focused that these are children. >> the legislation would streamline how the u.s. processes these miners, to either allow them to apply for asylum or return home. the congressman was on our show recently and he said this needs to happen and we arty have this kind of process for mexico and canada, we should get the same arrangement with central american country -- countries expedite the
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children. >> i do think the process should be expedited but i do not agree with the way he talks about expediting. we need to increase the number of judges and lawyers so the process can be expedited without fundamentally changing the law. we need to think about what is going on in these countries and why people are fleeing. the gang problem in x -- in el salvador started in los angeles. we deported tens of thousands of gay members who went down to el salvador and continued the criminal behavior they had in the los angeles area. in addition to expediting the resources,increasing the other thing we need to do is assist countries deal with the problems.
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>> harry reid said yesterday the border is secure. do you agree? >> if you look at how we have spent money or resources that have been increased, in the last seven or eight years, we have increased money to the border to strengthen it by 350%. this is not an issue of the border not being secure. have these children coming to the border looking for the border punch and turning themselves in. they are not trying to flee. it is not a question of the border not being secure. our viewersowing this is a picture in the opinion section of the wall street journal. immigrants in honduras, after being stopped for illegal border crossing, a number of children standing there. let me show you the arizona republic front page as well. they have this picture with a caption that after crossing the border at the southern tip of
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texas, women, children, and unaccompanied minors from central america promptly give themselves up. they interviewed these kids and they said they were happy when they saw the border patrol. it is a false issue to say the border needs to be more secure. but then, let's just go with that for a minute. if we want the border to be more secure, why don't we pass the bill from the senate? that adds resources to the border. >> denise, new jersey, democratic caller. go ahead. caller: i was just calling the pedophiles, half of them are on drugs or whatever. why don't they take and put them in some kind of facility until
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they are drug free. you see so many kids being born in this country from out there on the streets and they have drugs in their system. here, you is coming know, with a jug problem. >> i agree with you. we have a wonderful program in the los angeles area called shields for families which does exactly what you said. they have been able to keep a number of children out of the child welfare system by bringing the mother, when she was pregnant, into their facility, providing drug and counseling services, making sure the baby is born drug-free. but then also helping the mother address her addiction. we did something else not talk about about the trafficking issue. the pimps get them strung out on some type of drug. they need to medicate themselves
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with illegal drugs just to survive what the temps put them through. turning tricks in the night. host: we will go to alabama on our line for democrats. brandy. caller: yes. good morning. like to congratulate president barack obama. grandfather is always doing right and everything else. he makes me very proud. i have no idea what else to say. >> ok. pennsylvania, independent caller. >> good morning. thank you for taking my call.
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she has already touched on a lot of what my question is, but i would like your pain in on the pros and cons of this subject and that is my only question. the pros and cons of the subject. there are no pros. there are only cons. we have girls beginning at the age of 12 who are trafficked, me, thefic, and to comprehensive legislation we are looking at is to adjust the problem. can see a pro. this legislation will pass out of the house in a week and it is bipartisan legislation and that is the pro. in the senate, that is another story. i believe it will be supported in the senate. not a veryt controversial topic. i'm happy to say it is not. host: we will go to katrina next, telephonic, independent caller. caller: thank you for taking my
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call. i am happy to see representative baths -- bass is on. i am happy to have her as a california representative. it is a real pleasure to speak with you this morning. i think some of this child byfficking thing is fueled pornography. i am not a man hater. do not get mad at me. some of you guys are cool. but what a crime against a minor under 18. can't you wait until they are 18? you can be 75 and still get yourself a sharp 18-year-old. it is a philosophical problem with society. you look at the priests and everything. house resolution 661 and rule 18, the chair declares the house and the committee of the whole house of the state union for further consideration
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of h.r. 5016. will the gentlewoman from north carolina, ms. fost, kindly take the - ms. foxx kindly take chair. the chair: the house is in the committee of the whole house of the state of the union for further consideration of h.r. 5016, which the clerk will report by title. the clerk: general government for the fiscal year ending september 30, 2015 and for other purposes. the chair: when the committee of the whole rows earlier today, an amendment offered by the gentleman from oklahoma, mr. lankford, had been disposed of and the bill had been read through page 152, line 15. pursuant to clause 6 of rule 18, proceedings will now resume on those amendments on which further proceedings were postponed in the following order
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. amendment number 1 by mr. fleming of louisiana. amendment by mr. gosar of arizona, amendment by mr. grayson of florida, amendment by mr. heck of washington, first amendment by mr. desantis of florida, second amendment by mr. desantis of florida, first amendment by ms. blackburn of tennessee. second amendment by ms. blackburn of tennessee. third amendment by mrs. blackburn of tennessee. fourth amendment of mrs. blackburn of tennessee. amendment of mr. massie of kentucky. the chair will reduce to two minutes the time for any electronic vote after the first vote in this series. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on amendment number 1 printed in the congressional record, offered by the gentleman from louisiana, mr. fleming, on which
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further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment number 1 printed in the congressional record offered by mr. fleming of louisiana. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes y electronic device. this is a 15-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the chair: on this -- the chair: on this vote, the yeas are 186, the nays are 236. the amendment is not adopted. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from arizona, mr. gosar, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote this eclerk will
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redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment offered by mr. gosar of arizona. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having risen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes y electronic device. this is a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the chair: on this vote, the yeas are 282, the nays are 138. one voting present. he amendment is adopted. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from florida, mr. grayson, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment offered by mr. grayson of florida. the chair: a vorded -- a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having risen a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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gentleman from washington, mr. heck, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment offered by mr. heck of washington. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having risen a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the gentleman from florida, mr. desantis, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. cleag -- the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: an amendment offered by mr. desantis of florida. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the chair: on this vote the yeas are 351. the nays are 71. he amendment is adopted. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on the second amendment offered by the gentleman from florida, mr. desantis, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment offered by mr. desantis of florida. the chair: a recorded vote has
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been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the chair: on this vote the yeas are 264 and the nays are 157. he amendment is adopted. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on the first amendment offered by the gentlewoman from tennessee, mrs. blackburn, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment offered by mrs. blackburn of tennessee. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered.
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members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the chair: on this vote the yeas are 168. the nays are 256. the amendment is not adopted. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on the second amendment offered by the gentlewoman from tennessee, ms. blackburn, on which further pro-- mrs. blackburn, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the noes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: an amendment offered by mrs. blackburn of tennessee. the chair: a recorded vote is requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the
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the chair: on this vote the yeas are 239, the nays are 184. he amendment is adopted. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on the third amendment offered by the gentlewoman from tennessee, mrs. blackburn, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the
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amendment. the clerk: amendment offered by mrs. blackburn of tennessee. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded volt is ordered -- vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the .s. house of representatives.]
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200. he amendment is adopted. the unfinished business is the request for a recorded vote on the fourth amendment offered by the gentlewoman from tennessee, mrs. blackburn, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment offered by mrs. blackburn of tennessee. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having isen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the .s. house of representatives.]
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request for a recorded vote on the amendment offered by the gentleman from kentucky, mr. massie, on which further proceedings were postponed and on which the ayes prevailed by voice vote. the clerk will redesignate the amendment. the clerk: amendment offered by mr. massie of kentucky. the chair: a recorded vote has been requested. those in support of the request for a recorded vote will rise and be counted. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a two-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the chair: on this vote the yeas are 241, the nays are 181. he amendment is adopted. the clerk will read the last two lines. the clerk: this act may be cited as the financial services and general government appropriations act, 2015. the chair: the question is on -- the gentleman from florida is recognized for a motion. mr. crenshaw: i move that the committee do now rise and report the bill back to the house with sundry amendments and with the recommendation that the amendments be agreed to and that the bill as amended do pass. the chair: the question is on the motion it that the committee ridse. -- motion that the committee rise. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it, the motion is adopted. accordingly, the committee rises.
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the speaker pro tempore: madam chair. the chair: mr. speaker, the committee of the whole house on the state of the union having had under consideration h.r. 5016 directs me to report the same back to the house with sundry amendments with the recommendation that the amendments be agreed to and the bill, as amended, do pass. the speaker pro tempore: the chair of the committee of the whole house on the state of the union reports that the committee has had under consideration the bill h.r. 5016 and pursuant to house resolution 661 reports the bill back to the house with sundry amendments adopted commt committee of the whole. under the rule the previous question is ordered. is a separate vote demanded on any amendment reporting from the committee of the whole? if not the chair will put them
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engross. the question is on adoption of the amendments. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. the amendments are adopted. the question is on the engrossment and third reading of the bill. those in favor, please say aye. those opposed, please say no. the ayes have it. third reading. the clerk: a bill making appropriations for financial services and general government for the fiscal year ending september 30, 2015, and for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from minnesota rise? >> i have a motion to recommit at the desk. the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. please take your conversations off the floor. the clerk will report the motion. the clerk: -- the speaker pro tempore: is the gentleman opposed to the bill?
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>> i am opposed in the current form. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman qualifies. the clerk will report the motion. the clerk: mr. nolan of minnesota moves to recommit the bill h.r. 5016 to the committee on appropriations with instructions to report the same back to the house forthwith with the following amendment -- page 62, line 9, insert after the dollar amount insert the following. increased by $5 million. page 67, line 16, insert after the dollar amount insert the following, decrease by $10 million. page 71, line 3, insert after the dollar amount, insert the following, decreased by $10 million. page 88, line 21, insert after the dollar amount, insert the following, increased by $5 million. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from minnesota is recognized for five minutes. mr. nolan: mr. speaker, this is the final amendment to the bill. it will not kill the bill or send it back to send it back to
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committee. if adopted, the bill will move to passage, as amended. mr. speaker, today the proposal that i offer, is a modest proposal, but it has potential for great gain for this country. mply asking -- the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the gentleman may proceed. mr. nolan: thank you, mr. speaker. my amendment provides for $5 million additional dollars for the small business development centers across this country, and additional $5 million for the consumer product safety commission. the simple truth is, it's small businesses that drive this economy. 28 million of them, half of the work force in this country
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comes from the small business community in this country. 2/3 of all the new jobs that e created are created by small businesses. we don't want to be a part of having missed the next great idea, because not only do small businesses create jobs and drive the engine of this economy, they are the genesis of the next great new idea that will revolutionize the world, change and improve and better our lives. but guess what, i'm an old business guy myself. i don't know that -- as a matter of fact, i'm quite sure i've never had any ideas of genius, but even if you do, that doesn't mean you know how to run a business and that's
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what the small business centers do. they do it for veterans. they do it for women. they do it for minorities. they teach them how to put together a business plan. they teach them how to put together a finance plan that will resonate with a crurmudgeon old banker. they -- curmudgeon old banker. they show you how to put together engineering and design and production plan. they show you how to do sales and marketing and export plans to export your products overseas. i have a woman in my district created a great little company, alicia overby called baby elephant ears. in two years she grew her company from $12,000 to $1.5 million in income, producing all kinds of wonderfully good-paying jobs.
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and all she needed to do that was to get a little help from the small business administration. as a business person, i don't mind telling you when times are hard, times aren't good, you don't start cutting across the board. you look to where maybe you need to spend a little bit more money to get a little more efficient production system to maybe do a little better sales and marketing, to learn how to put together a finance plan so your banker will give you the working capital that you need to grow and expand and create jobs. my friends, that's what this is all about. the small business administration serves over 500,000 clients. yes, that's right. 500,000 clients, generates $4.5 billion in private capital that otherwise wouldn't get invested in new business, creating new jobs for people in this
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country. that's what this motion is all about. additionally, it provides some additional moneys for consumer product safety. and what has that commission done? oh, it's only saved hundreds of thousands of lives, saved children from poisoning, saved children from dying in crib deaths, saved children from uffocating in refrigerators. 4.5 million foreign-made consumer products have been enied entry in this country. is that worth an additional $5 million? save the life of someone's loved one and children? you better believe it is. this amendment is all about creating jobs, creating business, creating opportunity
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for women, for minorities, for entrepreneurs. why? because it works, that's why. and you know why? you want to know why it also works? i'll tell you. because when women and minorities succeed in this country, what happens? when entrepreneurs and businesses succeed in this country, what happens? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. nolan: when workers get ood-paying jobs, what happens? the speaker pro tempore: the entleman's time has expired. the gentleman's time has expired. mr. nolan: and last but not ast --
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the speaker pro tempore: the ouse will be in order. the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from florida seek recognition? mr. nolan: oh, you want to listen to this one. you want to listen to this one because when -- the speaker pro tempore: the entleman's time has expired. the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentleman from florida seek recognition? mr. crenshaw: i rise to speak in opposition of the motion to recommit.
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the speaker pro tempore: is the gentleman from florida opposed to the motion? mr. crenshaw: yes, i am. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from florida is recognized for five minutes. mr. crenshaw: thank you very much. let me just tell the gentleman that he'll be happy to know that we have taken all of his concerns in this bill. and we've got a pretty good bill that we worked on, mr. speaker. the bill's been on the floor now for three days. this is the first time this subcommittee bill has actually been to the full house since 2007, and so all the members of the house had a chance to look at the bill. they had a chance to offer amendments, and after that process we now have a good bill hat's even better.
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the speaker pro tempore: please lear the well. the house will be in order. the gentleman from florida will suspend. the house will be in order. members, please take your conversations off the floor. the house will be in order. members, please take your conversations off the floor. the gentleman from florida may resume. mr. crenshaw: well, i thank the gentleman for clearing the ell.
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as i said, we got a good bill that this process has actually made even better, and it's a strength bill and we know -- it's a spending bill and we know government needs money to provide services. government needs something more right now, and we've tried to provide that. government needs discipline to rein in spending. government needs courage to make decisions even when they're hard. and government needs the commitment to make sure that very task of government is accomplished more effectively than ever before, because i tell you, if life is going to change in america, life has to change here in washington, d.c. and this bill takes a giant step forward in making that change. first of all, we rein in this
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out-of-control spending that's for so g on in this long. ow, we say for four straight years we're spending less money this year than we spent last year and that's quite an accomplishment in itself. and how do we do that? well, we do it just like every american business does, every american family. they sit down, they take the money they have, they set priorities. then, they make some tough choices, and that's what we've done. we take agencies and programs that are no longer vital to the operation of the federal government or if they have a history of wasting taxpayers' resources and in some cases we get rid of them. nine agencies are gone under this bill. but we also take things like the small business administration, who actually support small business, they assist in private sector job
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creation and we add money to them because they're going to elp turn the country around. now, another thing we do is that we rein in this out-of-control administration and out-of-control bureaucracy. how do we do that? well, let's just take, for instance, the i.r.s. i think most people in this house would say the i.r.s. has betrayed the trust of the american people. and they got a long way to go before they restore that trust. and so what we've done in this bill, we said we're going to rein in that out-of-control spending because your funding's going to be reduced, send you back to the core issues. and we're not going to give any more money until you prove to us that you can be a good steward of the money we've already given you. and we also say to the i.r.s., no more wasting money on lavish conferences and silly videos.
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we say no more intimidating individuals and groups of individuals based on their political philosophy. no more. and we say no more drafting rules and trying to shut down freedom of speech, which is guaranteed by our constitution. and we say, no more meddling in your everyday life and your health care. if you're like me and you're tired of seeing taxpayer dollars go down the drain, if you're like me and you're tired of seeing nameless, faceless bureaucrats invade your life more and more and more, well, then join with me in saying we want responsible spending, we want reasonable regulation, we nt to unleash the individual responsibility that's made our nation great. vote no on the motion to recommit and vote yes on the bill. .
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the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. without objection, the previous question is ordered on a motion to recommit. the question is on the motion to recommit. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the noes have it. the motion is not agreed to. for what purpose does the gentleman from minnesota seek recognition? >> i ask for a recorded vote. the speaker pro tempore: a recorded vote is requested. all those in favor of taking this vote by the yeas and nays will rise and remain standing until counted. , a recorded vote is ordered. -- a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. pursuant to clause 8le and clause 9 of rule 20, this is a five minute d vote on the motion to recommit, will be followed by a five-minute vote on the passage of the bill and agreeing to the speaker's approval of the journal if ordered. this is a five-minute vote. any use of the closed-captioned
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the speaker pro tempore: on this vote the yeas are 198, the nays are 225. the motion is not adopted. the question is on the passage of the bill. under clause 10 of rule 20, the yeas and nays are ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a five-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned
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