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and find out who may or may not have been responsible. gage, thank you for your time this morning. house of representatives is coming into session potentially working on the border bill. thanks for being with us. the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the chair lays before the house a communication from the speaker. the clerk: the speaker's rooms, washington, d.c. august 1, 2014. i hereby appoint the honorable steve womack to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. signed, john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: the prayer will be offered by our chaplain, father conroy. chaplain conroy: let us pray. dear god, we give you thanks
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for giving us another day. on this day in the midst of great and urgent debate, we ask again that you give all members peace and patience with wisdom and courage to do what is best or our nation. competing questions and answers challenge us all to remember that our nation is a people descended from immigrants, most in history, and many in faith. may all americans and those members who represent them here rise to the challenge of these days and prove to be the best of ourselves. as always may all that is done be for your greater honor and glory, amen. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to section 3-a of
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house resolution 694, the journal of the last day's proceedings is approved. the pledge of allegiance will be led by the gentleman from florida, mr. garcia. mr. garcia: i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. the speaker pro tempore: the chair lays before the house a communication. the clerk: the honorable the speaker. house of representatives. sir, purr soont to the permission granted in clause 2-h of rule 2 of the rules of the u.s. house of representatives, the clerk received the following message from the secretary of the senate on august 1, 2014, at 9:08 a.m. that the senate agreed to the conference report h.r. 3230. that the senate agreed without objection amendment house concurrent resolution 111. that the senate received in its
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amendment to the bill h.r. 5021. appointment, state and local law enforcement congressional badge of bravery board, public safety officer medal of valor review board, state and local law enforcement congressional badge of bravery board. signed, sincerely, karen l. haas. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from oklahoma seek recognition? mr. cole: mr. speaker, by direction of the committee on rules i all up house resolution 600 and ask for its immediate consideration. the speaker pro tempore: the clerk will report the resolution. the clerk: house calendar number 134, house resolution 700. resolved, that the requirement of clause 6-a of rule 13 for a 2/3 vote to consider a report from the committee on rules on the same day that it's presented to the house is waived with respect to any resolution reported through the legislative day of september 5, 2014, providing for consideration or disposition of measures relating to the ongoing humanitarian crisis on the u.s. southern border,
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border security, and related immigration law. section 2, it shall be in order at any time through the legislative day of september 5, 2014, for the speaker to entertain motions that the house suspend the rules as though under clause 1 of rule 15, relating to measures addressing the ongoing humanitarian crisis on the u.s. southern border, border security, and related immigration law. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from oklahoma is recognized for one hour. mr. cole: mr. speaker, for the purpose of debate only i yield the customary 30 minutes to the gentleman from massachusetts, my friend, mr. mcgovern, pending which i yield myself such time as i may consume. soap the gentleman is recognized. mr. cole: during consideration of this resolution, all time yielded is for the purpose of debate only. mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent that all members may have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks . the speaker pro tempore: without objection, so ordered. mr. cole: mr. speaker, yesterday the rules committee met to report a rule that would provide for same-day authority for any resolution reported from the committee on rules
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related to the ongoing humanitarian crisis on the southern border, border security, and related immigration law through september 5 of 2014. additionally, the rule provides suspension authority through september 5, 2014, on the same topics. mr. speaker, this rule is very straightforward. it allows the house the maximum flexibility to deal with the crisis on the southern border during the district work period by providing both same day and suspension authority through september 5. any legislation considered during this time period would still need to go through the regular process by either a rule for consideration by the rules committee or under the standard suspension process. this resolution just allows for expedited consideration of those matters while preserving as much of the district work period as possible. mr. speaker, i urge support for the rule and i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time is reserved. entleman from massachusetts.
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-- the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i want to thank the gentleman from oklahoma for yielding me the customary 30 minutes. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. mcgovern: i rise in strong opposition to this martial law rule. the martial law authority created under this rule would last through september 5. 234erds, -- in other words, the house republicans can call us back at a whim to consider any kind of bill they call a border or immigration bill. so much for their three-day rule. i wonder how much notice they have to give speaker cruz before they call us back? let's just take a moment to remember how we got here. the republican leadership put together a partisan, inadequate, and unacceptable emergency supplemental bill that allegedly dealt with the humanitarian crisis at the southern border. that bill was mean-spirited and cruel. but it wasn't mean-spirited and cruel enough to satisfy the far right wing of the republican conference. so the leadership tried to add another mean spiritted cruel bill for help of young
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immigrants under the daca program. a program that's helped thousands of young people who have grown up in america come out of the shadows so they can go to school or hold a job without fear of being deported. but that wasn't mean-spirited and cruel enough. so they pulled the whole package from the floor yesterday. last night we had yet another meeting in the rules committee. and that's when they came up with this rule but not a solution. that's right, mr. speaker. they still don't know what they are going to do. but i have an idea. they are going to make the cruel, mean-spirited immigration bill even worse, and that may not be enough to placate the far right who simply don't like immigrants. mr. speaker, let's be honest. the far right wing of the republican base will never, ever be satisfied. and the martial law authority created under this rule would last through september 5. so if the republicans can somehow come up with even more mean-spirited bills, if they can figure out a way to act
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even more cruelly, they can bring us back again and again and again to vote. now, in case any americans are still watching, they can be forgiven for being a little confused about what happened this week. on wednesday, house republicans voted to waste millions of taxpayer dollars to sue the president for what they claim is excessive executive action. but on thursday this is what speaker boehner said about the border crisis and i quote, there are numerous steps the president can and should be taking right now without the need for congressional action to secure our borders, end quote. so which is it, mr. speaker? is president obama doing too much? or not enough? i've got whiplash. it would be easier to take the republicans seriously if they would just settle on one set of partisan talking points. finally, mr. speaker, let me say a few words about the crisis in our border. there are nearly 50 million refugees around the world. 50 million people fleeing violence, brutality, oppression, famine, disease.
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50 million. 1/10 of 50,000 minors, 1% of the total number our friends have a hisy fit. is this is face of america we want the rest of the world to see? the united states of america, a nation of immigrants, do we really want the rest of the world to see us like this? petty and mean and small? i hope not. i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. cole: thank you, mr. speaker. obviously my friend and i are going to have a disagreement about the nature of the bill that i think will in rather short order be before us. let's go back and look a little bit of history here. the administration was warned in 2012 and 2013 that we were going to have a crisis on our hand if we didn't do something that we were going to be getting a flow of unaccompanied minors. they did absolutely nothing.
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the president of the united states submitted a budget to us which cut money for enforcement and detention at the border, which cut money for support of people that were here while they were being processed, and that cut money for aid to the countries where most of these folks are coming from. that's real foresight. frankly -- we have been confronted with crisis, and a crisis that, in our view, the president contributed to by unilaterally changing whole sections of the immigration law and leaving the impression probably unwittingly i would say, but leaving the impression to many people if we got to the united states we are going to be able to stay. there's no question, criminal elements have picked that impression up, broadcast it, thousands of people have sent them tens of thousands of millions, really, of dollars, and put children on a perilous journey over 1,000 miles to this country. now, we are trying to act on
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that, and we think, number one, if we don't do that, the societies from which they are coming are going to be disrupted. we have been told very cloor h.r.ly -- clearly by the leader of those countries we would like our children back. number two, if we don't stop this process, we are going to continue to enrich cartels to an extraordinary degree. frankly, as one border agent told me, he said, from a cartel standpoint, this is actually easier than drugs. because what drugs do, we try to interdict you every step along the way. if you get to the border and across, we continue to try to interdict you. once case, we actually they bring an illegal, unaccompanied minor here, we complete the transaction. so it's encouraging the flow. that's dangerous for the young people involved. we all know in the course of that journey there is a risk that sex trafficking will take place. there's a risk that people will be lured or forced into drug
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dealing. there's a terrific physical risk. we know a loft these folks are abused during the course of this process or sexually assaulted. we need to stop this flow. we need to do it in a humane and appropriate way. the president, by the way, has suggested that this is due to the 2008 law which we all passed in good faith to deal with sex trafficking. i personally don't think that's the case, but if that's true, then we ought to make some tweak to that law. we don't need to repeal it, but we need to make sure that we do something so that we don't have an enormous backlog here and we can actually handle the flow appropriately. we have waited in vain for the president to tell us what that tweak is. it was his -- secretary of homeland security that actually raised this issue and said we need to be able -- said this in testimony in front of the united states senate, we need to be able to treat people coming from the three central american countries essentially the same way we treat canadian and mexican minors that arrive
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at our border. that was the position. but we have not seen anymore requests. if you look at our bill, frankly, number one, it's going to take care of that problem with a tweak. number two, we are going to provide additional authority offset -- additional moneys to handle this process through the end of the fiscal year and end of the calendar year. number three, then we can work -- there will probably be additional resources needed next year, under the caps of the ryan-murray budget agreement, and redirect that flow of money toward -- from less urgent to more urgent problems. we think it's a responsible way to proceed. i think essentially that's what we are going to try and put before the house. regardless, once we pass something, then the senate can pass something. i'm sad to say, mr. speaker, that the other body was unable to do anything yesterday and has adjourned and gone home. frankly, we were unable to get things done yesterday in a way i would have liked, but we stayed here.
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and we are going to continue to work through the problem. present a product. hopefully the senate will come back and do the same. and then we can proceed legislatively and provide the resources and legislative corrections that are needed to deal with the situation. i'm pleased that we are in session. i'm pleased that we are working toward a solution. and with that, mr. speaker, i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time is reserved. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: it's my privilege to yield two minutes from maryland, the democratic whip, mr. hoyer. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from maryland is recognized for two minutes. mr. hoyer: i thank the gentleman for yielding. today's paper there is an op-ed , it's written by mr. mccarthy anti-new majority leader. in that op-ed he said, quote, i have always believed that you must win the argument before you can win the vote. in congress, committees act as idea factories for policies from both sides and as majority leader i will commit to the committee process and regular
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order. apparently he didn't start yesterday doing that. and we don't start today doing that. this legislation has not been considered by committee, subcommittee, or any of us have not seen it at this point in time. i heard the gentleman from oklahoma say, the legislation is going to do this, that, and the other. we haven't seen it. . it is 10:15. no exercising of responsibility. we saw irresponsibility rampant yesterday in the house of representatives. we saw a few months ago shutting down government if we
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don't do it my way. i will tell the american people, mr. speaker, none of the leaders of the republican party have reached across to say, how can we do this in a bipartisan way. and so because of their unwillingness to do that, mr. speaker, the senate is gone. what we do today will be useless. a show. a form without substance. a pretense. a political message to their base of how hard they can be because they're moving in exactly the opposite direction of trying to create bipartisanship. and so i urge my colleagues, stand up -- the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. hoyer: for doing the right thing and giving the resources necessary to meet the challenge that america has and america
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ought to be meeting today and yesterday and the day before and i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from oklahoma. the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole: thank you, mr. speaker. i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. cole: i want to disagree with my good friend, the minority leader -- excuse me -- minority whip. i don't think the senate left yesterday because of anything the house did. it failed to act and it left. it went home because it couldn't pass a bill. that's something we're not going to allow to happen here. we're going to pass legislation. we're going to get our part of the job done. the senate then will be free to come back and pass something, and we can go into, you know, conference and do exactly what my friend suggests, work out a compromise. so, you know, hopefully that's where we'll end up in this process. with that i yield back -- i
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just yielded back my time. i reserve my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time is reserved. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentleman from oregon, mr. defazio. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from oregon is recognized for one minute. mr. defazio: well, there are two real crises before us and the republican's response is the legislation was withdrawn yesterday, as it should have been, but the other wasn't on the table in any form. 236 new fires started in the western united states last night. there are 44 large fires -- 31 large fires uncontained and the forest service and b.l.m. are running out of money and the senate bill, grant it, it didn't pass, but in the president's request there was firefighting money. they don't care about the loss of resources, the potential loss of life and loss of property that's going to result. when those agencies run out of
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money, they can't stop fighting the fires, but they have to cut back on programs, preparedness and things that would mitigate the disaster of future fires, deal with forest health, fuel reduction, all those things. but they could care less. they're taking no action. they didn't even put forward a lame proposal on that, unlike their very lame proposal on the border. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole: i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. cole: thank you very much, mr. speaker. the gentleman may be surprised to find actually we're not too far apart on the issue. now currently we have over $700 million still on hand to deal with wildfires. the gentleman and i actually co-sponsored legislation that our friend, mr. simpson from idaho, was offered so we can actually deal with this and change the structure of how we fund wildfire fighting. i suspect that issue will come back again. as a matter of fact, i was willing to work during the budget process with some of my
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friend on the other side to actually write the change into the budget. for some reason the democratic amendment was withdrawn. i don't know why. and i cast no aspersions. but that's an area we'd like to work with you. i don't think it's particularly appropriate to be done in this bill. this bill is dealing with the crisis on the southern border. it shouldn't be a christmas tree or a grab bag. if we need additional resources we should come back and do that. again, we have sufficient resources on hand. congress will be back in session in september, back in session after the election so i think we're going to have multiple opportunities to deal with this. i look forward to working with my friends on this particular issue when those opportunities occur. with that i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time is reserved. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i want to yield 10 seconds to the majority whip. mr. hoyer: we'd like to work on that. no option has been given us for that. secondly, you're not following regular order on the legislation, what is needed now are resources and the reason
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the senate didn't act because no member of your party would support action. i thank the gentleman for mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i -- mr. hoyer: i thank the gentleman for yielding. mr. mcgovern: i yield to the gentleman from florida, mr. garcia. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. garcia: mr. speaker, i'm a fortunate man because half a century ago my father, 17 years old, arrived in this country with my mother and this country gave them refuge. later, the rest of our family came. this country has been tremendously generous as we were brutalized by a left-wing dictatorship, the castro dictatorship. and to think, mr. speaker, that a fellow cuban american sits in the other house dictating to this house that we should strip away rights, strip away rights from children is unacceptable. it's un-american.
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i am a fortunate man and we are a rich and plentiful country, a country of laws. we have an opportunity to do the right thing, to pass the bipartisan comprehensive bill that the other house passed. it is now one year and one month since that happened. the time has come. let us pass comprehensive immigration reform. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole: mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. cole: i want to disagree with my friend on the root of this issue. i don't think whether or not we pass immigration reform has anything to do with the border crisis. i really don't. frankly what is occurring there would be illegal had we passed what the senate passed. so it just simply doesn't address the problem. what the problem here is by our own actions in this country we sent a message that if you get
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here you can stay, whether you're legally entitled to or not. it will take so long to process you will essentially never be sent back. we've allowed criminal cartels to distort our position and to make tens of millions of dollars off this. that needs to be stopped. that needs to be reversed. it is not helpful to anybody. now, again, we may differ on the ideas, although i point out for the record once more, the administration did ask, please do something about the 2008 law. they asked that a month ago. then they've sort of gotten quiet since then. they've asked for resources. we looked at what they need. we said, we'd be willing to do that. we'll take them from existing moneys. we are not going to spend new money. this is an urgent priority. by the way, if you need additional resources next year, we'll do it again there. we'll do it under the ryan-murray budget cap. we won't go outside the process.
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we are using -- i think my friend, the minority whip, is correct. we are using exceptional procedures. they are procedures within the traditions of this house to react to a crisis situation. and we're trying to stay here to get our work done and hopefully challenge the senate to come back and do the same thing. so we're working the process and the crisis as best we can and with that we'll continue to work. i'll reserve the balance of my time, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time the gentleman reserves the balance of his ime -- the gentleman's time is reserved. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i yield one minute to the gentleman from california, mr. costa. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for one minute. mr. costa: earlier this week i spoke the connection between immigration reform and the crisis on our border. of hi t's the hite pockry is i -- its the height of pipock rasi-i. this -- hypocrisy.
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you can't have it both ways. but the republican leadership said earlier this week and yesterday that in fact maybe the president should use his executive authority to deal with the issue at the border. but on tuesday they provided funding, some $2 million, to sue the president for excessive use of executive authority. which is it? you can't have it both ways, but it seems like some of our colleagues want to do that. and then finally, a colleague from the valley just said this morning, he said the problem we have is some of our people just don't want to govern. that's correct. they don't. once again we're seeing politics trump good public policy for the people of our country. what we ought to be doing is returning back to regular order. what we ought to be doing is putting together a bipartisan effort to solve our border problems and to bring about agree hencive immigration reform for -- comprehensive immigration reform for all the people of this country. that's what we ought to be doing. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from oklahoma.
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mr. cole: mr. speaker, i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time is reserved. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i yield one minute to the gentleman from california, mr. cardenas. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized for one minute. .r. cardenas: thank you i'm here as a member of this body who was sent here to work. quite frankly, which is the main reason why most immigrants come to this country, to work, to contribute to our economy and to do the jobs that most of us are unwilling to do. but the point that i want to make at this moment is that what the republican proposal tried to do yesterday and it failed and what they are trying to do today is to strip away the rights of a child to live. the republicans want to indiscriminantly return children to their death. and i challenge any american, any american to look into it yourself and realize and find out that many of these children will be returned with or without a change of a law
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today, they will be returned but the ones that deserve to live should be able to stay and the law was passed unanimously in 2008 to give that opportunity to those children, to these children, the children that are breathing today, the children who came to the most giving, loving, caring land ever created on earth and that is now about to change if they're successful. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole: i yield myself such time as i may consume, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. cole: thank you very much. i think we need to step back from the emotion a moment and look at the realities of the situation. number one, anybody that seeks refugee status in the united states can go to any of the embassies in the country in question and request it. don't have to travel a thousand miles. you can go request it and we'll look and see whether or not you qualify.
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number two, the president of the united states has said the vast majority of these children will be returned. that's not us. that's the president. he has said that. we're trying to do it and work with him in an expeditious way because we think sooner is better. number three, we're not returning them to criminals. we're returning them to the custody of their governments, their own officials who are probably better situated to make these decisions than we are a thousand-plus miles away. so let's be real. nobody is stripping any rights away from anyone. we actually have a situation in the 2008 law where a loophole has been exploited by criminals. that's what's happening and we're trying to stop the loophole and keep people from embarking on a dangerous journey and discourage people from giving thousands of dollars of their hard-earned money to criminal cartels to participate in that. that is the effort that's under way here.
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nobody would have fewer rights than people that are currently here from mexico or canada. you would still have the ability to adjudicate issues. the process would be a lot faster, and we think in that sense more humane, more efficient and more expeditious. so with that, mr. speaker, i'll reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time is reserved. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentleman from arizona, mr. grijalva. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from arizona is recognized for one minute. mr. grijalva: thank you, mr. speaker. i and my colleagues on this side of the aisle don't have the intuitive gift to know that every child or the majority of every child that's there doesn't have a right to refuge and doesn't have a right to asigh slum. that's why -- asylum. that's why we want representation for these children so they have a fair opportunity to get refuge, to
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get asylum as the law prescribes. the previous bill that failed dismantled that. ted cruz did not give it a seal of approval so it didn't get out of the republican caucus. now before us we have a rule that is fraudulent. we have a forthcoming law that will be fraudulent. it will be worse than the previous one. now we're going to codify getting rid of dreamers and daca into this law and what is the purpose? to turn out a base? is this a political strategy? is this a political expediency on the shoulders of children, on the shoulders of the american values, on the shoulders of our history? how shameful, how cynical. vote no on the rule. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole: mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. . mr. cole: i want to make a point to my friend. no one is trying to strip
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rights from anyone. the 2008 law has been abused. those -- people have found a loophole in it and they have clogged the legal system. we offered not a repeal but relatively minor fix. the president of the united states and his administration have also said this law -- they are actually the ones that put that suggestion out there. the president of the united states is the person who says the vast majority of these people need to go home and will eventually go home. so if he has a better way to do this, we would love to see the proposal. what he sent us was a funding proposal with no fix at all. proposal aimed at better managing the flow of people but not reversing that. it's a proposal, frankly, that goes well beyond this fiscal year, well beyond this calendar year, and allows him basically to operate outside the budget agreement limits, the caps, that we have all agreed to.
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we don't think that's appropriate. we think we'll reprioritize money for the urgent issue. we agree with the president. this is an urgent issue. we are willing to find savings in other parts of the budget. we are not willing to braket budget caps that both sides agreed to. that's the essence of the difference. we are trying to offer a solution. may not be the final solution. the i hope the senate will offer their solution. we -- i hope the senate will offer their solution. we can go to conference and work with the president. so far the only ideas that have been put forward to fix the problem largely comes from our side of the aisle. i'm sure that won't last indefinitely. i think my friends will do the same thing. certainly, they dominate the senate. the senate can do the same thing. sooner or later they'll get it done. we'll continue to work on this. for right now, again, nobody's aim is to strip anybody's rights away, but we are going to try to confront an urgent crisis. the we are going to try to do it in a expeditious way and responsible way and limited way. and come back here and look at the larger issues in september
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and after the election. with that, mr. speaker, i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman continues to reserve. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: parliamentary inquiry, mr. speaker. i'm a little confused. the gentleman said that they have offered a solution. is h.r. 15 contained in this rule? or is any legislation to deal with our border contained in this rule? the speaker pro tempore: the chair is not going to interpret the resolution. mr. mcgovern: further parliamentary inquiry, mr. speaker. can the chair at least inform us whether or not there is anything of substance in this rule other than martial law rule that allows them to call us back at any point from now until september 5? the speaker pro tempore: the chair is not going to interpret the pending resolution. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentleman from texas, mr. doggett. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for one minute. a sign, not oured
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kids, not our problems. held angrily by a mob shaken with go home to a group of little children who made a perilous journey to this contry. that -- country. that really epitomizes the republican approach to this problem. they care about these children so much that their proposal is to tell them to get out of here just as quick as they can before they can present their claims that they were trafficked or that they suffer a return to violence and murder and rape at home. the second thing they do, instead of unclogging our broken immigration system, is to say we need for semiautomatic weapons and military uniforms on our borders to greet these little children. and finally, they say to another group of students, those who have told us, i have a dream. our dreamers, that they want to
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turn that dream into a nightmare and send them away also. i think that's the wrong approach. it's time for them to get off cruz control and join us for comprehensive immigration reform. the speaker pro tempore: the entleman's time has expired. the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole: mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. cole: couldn't disagree with my good friend from texas more. i think everybody on both sides of the aisle cares about these children. now, we care about enough to restore the cuts that the president made in thele it aid to the contry of origin. we care enough to restore the cuts he made in his budget to our own border security. yes, our border security does need to be armed. not to greet children but to deal with the criminals that brought them here and abused them in the process. that's what we are talking about here. now, there's nothing to be gained by continuing this flow.
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even if some of you would like every particular person that got here to stay, again i quote the president, the vast majority will not be allowed to, will be sent back, stopping the flow is what we ought to be focusing on. stopping people from giving thousands of dollars to criminal cartels to bring these children to the borders and abuse them in the process. the quicker that stops, the better off we are. we are willing to work with the countries of origin, i think on both sides of the aisle. we had the president up here saying pretty emphatically they needed some assistance in dealing with that. we think that's appropriate. we tried to do that in legislation. and frankly we have done it in the foreign operations bill where we are more generous to the countries of origin than the administration has suggested we should be in its own budget. we are interested in dealing with the problem, but we are also interested in helping countries keep their children this their country, which they
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tell us they want to do. and we are also interested in making sure those children are never subjected to this journey, which i think all would agree is difficult and dangerous. and we are also extraordinarily interested in making sure that the criminal cartels who are making profits of this are discouraged from doing this. that they can't go and tell their potential customers, give us the money, put your kid at risk, but if we actually get them there, there's a good chance they'll stay. that false promise, that dangerous promise offered by criminals victimizing inaccident people is frankly what we ought to be focused on and what we are trying to focus on. again, we'll continue to work toward that end. i hope, mr. speaker, that we have a good product. i think that we will. the house will consider t and we hope the senate actually comes back from its district work period and deals with it as well. we'll go from there. that's the reason for the rule. that's the reason so we can act
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during this multiweek district work period should the opportunity actually occur to do that. with that, mr. speaker, i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time is reserved. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i yield one minute to the gentleman from texas, the chair of the hispanic caucus, mr. hinojosa. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for one minute. mr. hinojosa: mr. speaker, mr. speaker, as chairman of the congressional hispanic caucus, i rise again in opposition to this rule and against the martial law. which has not been given to us to read and i believe that that is the wrong thing to do to solve this problem. instead of working with democrats to come up with a viable bipartisan solution to deal with vulnerable central american children who are fleeing violence and death, my republican colleagues are apparently drafting a bill that is even worse than the one they proposed yesterday, on thursday. this new bill, presumably
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continues the failed policy of enforcement only will send thousands of these children back to certain death. if the funding levels remain the same as yesterday, the bill will not provide adequate funding to care for them while they are here. we should, instead, be spending our time debating and voting on the bipartisan senate comprehensive immigration bill that the speaker has refused to bring up for over a year. i urge my colleagues to oppose the rule and the martial law. i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole: mr. speaker, i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i want to yield to the gentlelady from new york, the ranking member of the rules committee, ms. slaughter, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from new york is recognized. ms. slaughter: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill, to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border.
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the speaker pro tempore: does the gentleman yield for that request? >> no. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman does not yield. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, let me make clear to the house if we defeat the previous question i will offer an amendment to the rule to bring up h.r. 15, our immigration reform bill. at this point i'd like to yield to the gentleman from texas, mr. doggett, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. mr. doggett: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring up h.r. 15, which we have been promised consideration on for o long to address this crisis. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from oklahoma would need to yield -- mr. doggett: i would ask him to yield to the unanimous consent request so we can deal with this immigration problem in a comprehensive manner. the speaker pro tempore: does the gentleman from oklahoma yield? mr. cole: mr. speaker, i will not yield. i do want to reiterate my earlier announcement that all time yielded is for the purpose
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of debate only and we are not yielding for other purposes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman does not yield. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i yield to the gentleman from michigan, mr. kildee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from michigan. mr. kildee: thank you. mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent and ask my friend to allow a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill, h.r. 15, to be considered. a bill i proudly co-sponsor. it would more than adequately address this humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. therefore the unanimous consent request cannot be entertained. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i yield to the gentlewoman from new hampshire, ms. kuster, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. ms. kuster: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to the floor. it was passed by the senate over one year ago.
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the speaker pro tempore: once again the chair recognizes that the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i yield to the gentlewoman from florida, ms. castor, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from florida is recognized. ms. castor: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill, to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the order. the speaker pro tempore: once again the chair recognizes that the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentlewoman from california, ms. matsui, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from california is recognized. ms. matsui: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to properly address humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: once again the chair understands that the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose.
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the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i yield to the gentlewoman from massachusetts, ms. tsongas, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady is recognized. ms. tsongas: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: once again, the chair recognizes the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i yield to the gentlewoman from massachusetts, ms. clarke, for the purpose of a judiciary committee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from massachusetts is recognized. miss -- ms. clark: i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair recognizes the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i yield to the gentleman from massachusetts, mr. kennedy, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts virginia tech. mr. kennedy: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive
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immigration reform bill to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair recognizes the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i yield to the gentleman from minnesota, mr. nolan, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from minnesota is recognized. mr. nolan: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring up h.r. 15 today, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform measure to deal with the immigration problems we have and to properly address the humanitarian crises at the border that's taking place today. thank you, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: once again the chair recognizes the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentleman from california, mr. honda, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. mr. honda: mr. speaker, i as chair eaire tuss of the pacific asian american caucus ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: as the chair advised on january 15,
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2014, and march 26, 2014, even though a unanimous consent request to consider a measure is not entertained, elbellishments accompanying such requests constitute debate. and become an imposition on the time of the member who yielded for that purpose. . the gentleman has not yielded. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i yield to the gentlelady from california, mrs. napolitano. mrs. napolitano: i ask unanimous consent to bring about h.r. 15, to proper address the humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair recognizes the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentleman from texas, mr. o'rourke, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. o'rourke: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to properly address these humanitarian issues. the speaker pro tempore: the
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gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentlewoman from hawaii, ms. gabbard, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from hawaii is recognized. ms. gabbard: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill, to bring real solutions to the problems at the border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair recognizes the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentleman from florida, mr. garcia, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from florida is recognized. mr. garcia: mr. speaker, i ask for unanimous consent to bring up h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill, to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentleman from california, mr. cardenas, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. cardenas: thank you, mr. speaker. i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the
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border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentlewoman from hawaii, ms. kaptur, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from ohio is recognized. ms. kaptur: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring up h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to properly address the humanitarian crisis at our border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentlewoman from minnesota, ms. mccollum, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from minnesota is recognized. ms. mccollum: thank you, mr. speaker. i ask unanimous consent to bring up h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to properly address the humanitarian crisis at our border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentleman from new mexico, mr. lujan, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new mexico is recognized. mr. lujan: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive
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immigration reform bill to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentlewoman from ohio, mrs. beatty, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from ohio is recognized. mrs. beatty: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands that the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentleman from new york, mr. tonko, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. tonko: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentleman from california, mr. farr, for the purpose of a unanimous consent
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request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. farr: thank you, mr. speaker. i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, which is a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill, first brought to us by president bush, a bill to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: once again, the chair understands that the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose, and the chair will be charged for the time accordingly. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentleman from new york, mr. serrano, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized. mr. serrano: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill, to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentlewoman from california, ms. brownley, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from california is recognized. ms. brownley: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring
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h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentlewoman from california, ms. roybal-allard, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from california is recognized. ms. roybal-allard: mr. speaker i ask unanimous consent that we bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentleman from texas, mr. green, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized. mr. green: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i
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yield to the gentleman from california, mr. takano, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. takano: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent that bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to properly address the border -- to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border to the floor. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentlewoman from nevada, ms. titus, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from nevada is recognized. ms. titus: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to bring h.r. 15, a bipartisan comprehensive immigration reform bill to properly address the humanitarian crisis at the border. the speaker pro tempore: the chair understands the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield to the gentleman from california, mr. huffman, for the purpose of a unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized. mr. huffman: mr. speaker, i ask unanimous consent to simply allow a vote on h.r. 15, a bill that has the bipartisan votes
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to pass today that we can have on the president's desk today to properly address this crisis. the speaker pro tempore: the time will be charged to the gentleman yielding, and once again the gentleman from oklahoma has not yielded for that purpose. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, might i inquire how much time we have left? the speaker pro tempore: first, the chair will receive a message. the messenger: mr. speaker, a message from the senate. the secretary: mr. speaker, i have been directed by the senate to inform the house that the senate has passed h.r. 3148, cited as the improving trauma care act of 2014. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: may i inquire how much time remains on both sides? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts has 13 3/4 remaining and the gentleman from oklahoma has 14 minutes. mr. mcgovern: i'll ask nanimous consent that i'll bmit text to the amendment
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immediately prior to the vote on the previous question. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i yield to the gentleman from texas, mr. owe roaring, one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for one minute. mr. o'rourke: mr. speaker, looking at the underlying bill, i have to wonder what my colleagues are afraid of. are they afraid of these kids, children who are fleeing brutal violence in their home countries to come to our country to seek asylum? are we so afraid of them that we would shortcut due process and send them right back into this violence? mr. speaker, are they afraid of the border, that they would send the national guard when we're already spending $18 billion a year, more than all federal law enforcement combined, at a time when el paso, texas, the largest texas city on the mexican border, is also the safest city in this country? at a time when we're 70% lower in apprehensions at our southern border? at a time when these apprehensions of children have fallen by almost 60%? mr. speaker, i asks not to be
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motivated by fear or anxiety but instead the best traditions of this country, courage, compassion and strength to do the right thing. with that, mr. speaker, i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole: mr. speaker, i continue to reserve. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentlewoman from california, ms. lofgren, the ranking member of the judiciary subcommittee on immigration and border security. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from california is recognized for one minute. ms. lofgren: mr. speaker, we keep hearing that the anti-slavery law has some loophole that's being exploited. that's not the truth. it's not what the evangelical immigration table said. by making the legal process clear and more efficient for children, the u.s. conference of catholic bishops found that the law is working. it should not be changed to address the current temporary situation. the law allows for responses to circumstances. that's not some open borders
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crowd. that's the national association of evangelicals. that's the southern baptists. that's the council for christian colleges and universities. i ask unanimous consent to place the letter from the evangelical immigration table into the record. the speaker pro tempore: without objection. ms. lofgren: i'd note also that we have over a year ago seen the senate come together to pass bipartisan immigration reform. republicans in this house have blocked a vote. we should vote on it today and get it to the president. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole: mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. cole: i point out if the 2008 law is not the reason, then my good friends' remarks need to be directed to the administration because they told us it is the reason. the president has cited this as the reason. but if it's because we've sent
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a signal down there by unilateral changing some, there's some explanation for a 10-fold increase in this purpose. ms. lofgren: if the gentleman will yield? mr. cole: in the flow of individuals across our border. ms. lofgren: if the gentleman will yield? mr. cole: with that, mr. speaker, i reserve the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentleman from new york, mr. crowley. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized for one minute. mr. crowley: thank you, mr. speaker. i thank my friend from massachusetts for yielding this one minute to me. 102 years ago a -- i assume a very frightened 14-year-old boy made his way on a boat called from cork, onia ireland, with his then mother on his way to the united states, a very frightened 14-year-old boy who left behind his community, his friends, his neighbors and made his way to the united states. he later served in world war i,
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became a new york city police officer and didn't live long enough to see his grandson become a member of the house of representatives. but that 14-year-old boy contributed mightily to the united states of america in so many ways. e was a scared boy being brought to america much the same way that children along our border today are coming to seek a better way. don'ts turn our backs on these -- don't turn our backs on these young boys and children, many who are suffering. show the compassion and beauty of the united states. welcome the best, the brightest and the bravest. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole: mr. speaker, i continue to reserve my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, it's my privilege to yield one minute to the gentleman from texas, mr. castro. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for one minute. mr. castro: the arrival of tens
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of thousands of children from central america seeking refuge in our country has tugged at the conscience of the american people. it is demonstrated both our best and our worst instincts. the best are all of the people who were so generous in offering food and clothing and shelter to these kids who have come from so far. but we've also seen some bad instincts like the armed militia men in ski masks who have shown up at our southern border, whose leader has said the way you keep people from coming to this country is you point a gun at them and threaten to shoot them in the head. that is not america. the question that we must answer now is, what does it mean to be a refugee in the 21st century? just as we offered that status to cubans fleeing castro, to those from the soviet union, to the vietnamese. just as our adversaries have changed, they are not always state actors. they're al qaeda, they're the haqqani network, they're isis.
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i say so, too, have our refugees changed and we must recognize that. this bill is not good for our country and it doesn't reflect who we are as a people. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole: mr. speaker, i continue to reserve my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentlewoman from texas, ms. jackson lee, the ranking member of the homeland security subcommittee on border and maritime security. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from texas is recognized for one minute. ms. jackson lee: i thank the gentleman. i wonder what my grandmother coming from jamaica west independenties with two babies thought about this great country called america. i wondered as i went to the border and i looked in the eyes of a little 7-year-old who had just gotten off a bus by himself from some place in central america or the toddler in a diaper who came here because there was true and actual violence, the beheading of their neighbors, the cutting of the throats of their young boys, the fear of a cartel and to think of the words, no room
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at the end. our republicans are confused. they are prosecuting the children, not were thing the drug dealers, the criminals and others. why? because they're taking away basic due process rights for humble children who've come just for opportunity. not only that, they don't even want to give resources to all the cities in america who are helping the good samaritans. and then they want legislation that literally undermines due process for these children. i will tell you, this is a bad bill. do not pass it. pass comprehensive immigration reform, pass it now. . the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole:00 i continue to reserve my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i yield one minute to the gentleman from new york, mr. serrano. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized for one minute. without objection. mr. serrano: at the end of the day the question may not be who
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are the children at the border and why are they here, the question may be who are we as a nation and why we are here as a congress. our reputation has been never to turn people away. our reputation should never be to turn children away to what could be a certain death or very difficult situation. this is not a crises. this is a situation that we have had before that we have known how to deal with. this is a moment for our country to show who we are. the world is looking. these are children. it's not their fault that they are here. there are many conditions that brought them here. how we act will be our fault if we don't act properly. how we act will be our legacy. this is not who we are as a country. i repeat. we are much better than that. and we have to understand that these are children. these are our children. just because a border separates us doesn't stop them from being our children. let's turn down and reject all of this nonsense that we are
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doing and let's try to help them and help them in the proper way. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole: mr. speaker, i continue to reserve my time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentleman from texas, mr. green. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from texas is recognized for one minute. mr. green: mr. speaker, dr. king reminds us that the truest measure of the person is not where you stand in times of comfort and convenience but where do you stand in times of challenge and controversy. these times of challenge and controversy i stand with those children at the border and i stand for due process. i don't stand for a fast track adjudication that mimics due process and makes a mockery of justice. i stand with the dreamers. they have been given hope by our president. i will not vote for a bill that will destroy hope for those dreamers. we must keep their hope alive.
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i stand for due process. i stand with the dreamers. and i stand for hope. i stand with the president. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. does the gentleman from oklahoma continue to reserve? mr. cole: i do. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman reserves. mr. mcgovern: may i inquire of the gentleman from oklahoma how many speakers he has? mr. cole: i'm prepared to close whenever my friend is. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i want to ask for unanimous consent request because we are -- the interest on this issue and the passion on this issue on our side is so great -- we don't have enough time. i would like to ask unanimous consent to extend the debate by one hour equally divided. we have a lot of speakers and there is no pending business after this debate ends. at the very least i think we could extend the debate. we were not allowed any amendments when the previous incarnation of this border bill was brought before the house. i think the least we can do in the spirit of collegiality is to expand debate. i would like to make that
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unanimous consent request. the speaker pro tempore: does the gentleman yield on the request? mr. cole: i do not, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman does not yield on the request. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i'll try again. mr. speaker, at this time i'd like to yield one minute to the gentlewoman from maryland, ms. edwards. the the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from maryland is recognized for one minute. ms. edwards: thank you, mr. speaker. it's a sad day for the united states when republicans in this congress see a problem and then choose not to work with democrats to solve the problem. and that's exactly what's happened here today. their draconian way or the highway. let's be clear about what the problem is. unaccompanied minor children, frightened, some fleeing violence, needing protection, and deserving due process. the solution to this problem is as much about who these children are as it is about who we are. as a mother and a legislator, i know we should be compelled to act as a matter of humanity,
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but also as a matter of law. we know we have problems on the border that are in need of solutions. republicans have rejected one solution, comprehensive immigration reform, to address the problem. they have rejected another solution, the request of the president for a supplemental appropriation that includes resources for judges, representation, and services for minor children, and assistance to the countries of origin. and now today in the 11th hour my colleagues on the other side of the aisle demonstrate once again their lack of humanity and failure to solve yet another problem for the american people. with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. the gentleman from oklahoma continues to reserve. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentlewoman from california, ms. roybal-allard. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from california is recognized for one minute. ms. roybal-allard allard: i rise in strong opposition to this bill. sadly the republican leadership is continuing to play politics with the lives of innocent children at the border by failing to bring forward a bipartisan supplemental spending bill that can pass the
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house and be signed into law. it's unbelievable their failure to pass their own bill yesterday it was not because of it's completely inadequate funding level or the fact it would undercut critical humanitarian protections in current law, but because it was not mean enough or punitive enough for their own members to vote on. working together as leader pelosi offered speaker boehner but was refused we could have come to a reasonable compromise. instead, republicans have resorted to martial law not because it's in the best interest of our country or these children, but so they can have the time to write a bill that will appease the extremists in their party. let's reject this rule and come together in the best tradition of this house to pass a clean supplemental bill that will address the humanitarian crises at our border in a way that meets our government's urgent needs and upholds our most basic american values. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. the gentleman from oklahoma continues to reserve. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the
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gentleman from massachusetts, mr. kennedy. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized for one minute. mr. kennedy: thank you, mr. speaker. mr. speaker, i, too, rise in strong opposition to this bill. i have been deeply saddened and distressed to see the images and hear the stories of so many unaccompanied minors at our border, but from massachusetts i also read other stories. i read the stories of the over 150 overdoses from heroin that we experienced with over 10 deaths. i recently met with the d.e.a. officials in massachusetts who indicated that heroin drug trade alone with mexico is over $40 billion a year. that the cartels have moved up into owning, trafficking corridors throughout mexico. that despite many of my other colleagues who are calling for the key strucks -- destruction of aid or reduction of aid to hon door rass, guatemala -- honduras, guatemala, gang violence in los angeles alone cost over $1 billion a year. if we are truly going to address this problem, you have
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to get to its core. and we have to take a good hard look at what is driving an economic instability that is pushing young kids to figure that they have a better life by getting on a bus by themselves to our border. this is what our country is supposed to be all about. a better future for young children trying to make a life for themselves. i hope that we come back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole: mr. speaker, i would like to yield two minutes to my good friend, my colleague on the rules committee, the distinguished gentleman from georgia, mr. woodall. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from georgia is recognized for two minutes. mr. woodall: thank you, mr. speaker. i thank my colleague on the rules committee. my friend from oklahoma for yielding. i'm not sure what it is that is happening here on this floor right now, because the bill that is before us, that everyone is rising to object to, is the bill that allows us to bring up in the same day just as soon as we find a solution that can bring this house together, bring a bill immediately to the floor to solve a crisis.
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i just want to make that clear. the bill before us today is the only piece of legislation in this town that allows us to move immediately to solve a crisis. i'm not talking about a crisis that is imagined by republicans or imagined by democrats. i have in my hand here a letter from jay johnson. the second of the department of homeland security. mr. speaker, he says this, he says this, in an open letter to families all across the world, he says, so let me be clear, there is no path to deferred action or citizenship, nor one being contemplated by congress, for a child who crosses our border illegally. today i have heard the hearts of my friends on the other side of the aisle. i heard the hearts. but we are a nation of laws as well as hearts, and you know that the law of the land does not allow for that as the second of homeland security said. and yet down here on the floor today if i was watching this from my home in guatemala or
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honduras or el salvador, i would be led to believe there is. we are better than that. and we have to be better than that because this is, in fact, a crisis. it's not an imagined crisis, it's a real crisis. folks thought this house was going to go home yesterday. they thought this was going to go home yesterday just like the senate did without providing a response. that's not the house i ran to be a part of. we are still here. we are still here working and by golly i believe we are going to have a solution on the floor. i believe we are going to have a solution on the floor before the sun goes down today and i'm so proud, i am so proud that we are here to do that. i tell you this, i would be happy to yield in a moment, we cannot do it if this bill does not pass. this rule today gives us a pathway to success. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. woodall: that pathway will be delayed. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from massachusetts.
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mr. mcgovern: parliamentary inquiry, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: state his inquirery. mr. mcgovern: the gentleman referred to a bill that the republicans are working on. we haven't seen such a bill. does this rule give us any indication of what bill they are talking about? the speaker pro tempore: the chair is not going to opine or interpret the pending resolution. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentleman from new mexico, mr. lujan. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new mexico is recognized for 8 for one minute. mr. lujan: i'll answer my friend's question that was just asked as he was speaking, what's happening on the floor is republicans are trying to weaken human trafficking laws. that's what's happening. over the last few days my colleagues on the other side of the aisle have jumped through linguistic and logical hoops to
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say that the most humane way to deal with these children is to deport them quickly without due process to discourage other children from making the dangerous journey. there is no question that the journey is dangerous. children are killed, robbed, raped, and maimed along the way, but the children know the risk. they are not ignorant to those facts. because back in honduras and guatemala children being raped, killed, and robbed every day. it's a fact. read the news. deporting children without process to these conditions or locking them into their home countries and preventing them from fleeing to find safety is not humane. it would be as the u.s. conference of catholic bishop said, like sending them back to a burning building. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from oklahoma continues to reserve.
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the gentleman from new york, state his inquiry. mr. rangel: this rule, exactly what bill is it that we are going to vote for or against as relates to the rule? because depending on the substance of the bill is going to determine whether i vote for or against the rule. and if they haven't prepared -- if they are not prepared to tell us exactly what the bill is going to be in it, how could we possibly make a judgment as to whether we support the rule? the speaker pro tempore: once again, as the chair has said repeatedly, the chair not going to opine or interpret the pending resolution. that is a matter for debate among the members. mr. rangel: may i further inquire. we are not asking you to opine anything, mr. speaker. we are asking you to tell us exactly what we will be debating. and if we don't know what we are going to be debating, then i don't see how we can pass -- i'm not asking the speaker to
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tell us what's in the rule. in the bill. i'm asking the speaker to find out from the majority exactly what this rule is going to be allowed for them to bring up. so that i would know whether to stay here or not to stay here. the speaker pro tempore: to the gentleman, the chair would say that the proper forum for that discussion is a debate among the members. mr. rangel: debate on what, mr. speaker? just tell me what we are debating on, that's my question. you tell me what the members will be debating on and i'm satisfied. i don't want you to opine, i want you to tell me what's going to be in the bill. the speaker pro tempore: the chair has been patient with the gentleman from new york. the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentlewoman from california, ms. loretta sanchez. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from california is recognized for one minute. ms. sanchez: thank you, mr. speaker. a man once said, i believe in
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the idea of amnesty for those who have put down roots and lived here even though some time back they may have entered illegally. mr. speaker, those words were from the great bass teaian of republican thinking, president ronald reagan. oh, how his party has changed. in fact, mr. speaker, if ronald reagan were in office today he would probably have a primary challenge for being too liberal thinking. mr. speaker, the house today is bringing up their only immigration related bill and it has one message, deport, deport, deport. . . port children seeking refuge mr. speaker, it looks like the bill the republicans want to bring is a security-only, no-to-dreamers supplemental.
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it does not address our broken immigration system. have we lost the core message of our country? what happened to give me you're tired, your poor, your huddled masses yeerning to be free? whap -- yearning to be free? what happened to that? i'm sure ronald reagan's party knows. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from oklahoma reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, might i inquire of the time of availability? the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts has 5 1/4 minutes remaining and the gentleman from oklahoma has 10 1/2 minutes remaining. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i want to yield one minute to the gentleman from california, mr. takano. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from california is recognized for one minute. mr. takano: i thank the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. speaker, i rise today to speak out against the legislation being put forward by the house republicans which is an insincere attempt to address the humanitarian crisis at our border. this bill is misguided, unreasonable and wrong. it does very little to address
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the actual root of this problem and cuts important funding from the department of defense, fema and the state department's economic support fund. i oppose this legislation, urge my colleagues to return to the drawing board so we can help these children and fix this issue. [speaking spanish] the speaker pro tempore: the chair reminds the gentleman that he'll need to provide a translation for the record. the gentleman from oklahoma reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentlewoman from new york, ms. velazquez. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlewoman from new york is recognized. mr. speaker, yesterday when republicans -- when the republican leadership pulled this legislation from
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the floor, i assumed they had come to their senses and realized they couldn't treat children so poorly. much to my shock, however, your old bill was not punitive enough for these children so you went back and made it worse. mr. speaker, when did we lose our way? let me be crystal clear. the changes being added to the supplemental will make the lives of the children worse. how we respond to a crisis of character eak to the of our nation to who we are? how could we go around the world and provide resources and bring democracy and yet we reat our neighbors this way?
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we should not gut children protection just to appease the most radical elements of a particular political party. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. ms. velazquez: that is not the american way. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from oklahoma -- ms. jackson lee: parliamentary inquiry, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: will the gentlelady state her inquiry? ms. jackson lee: mr. speaker, the course of debate is about to end, there's representation that there is an underlying ll to this martial law, that democrats have already made a commitment to stay and finish the job. my inquiry is the underlying bill's principles based on protecting children and fully funding the president's mark on the emergency supplemental to deal with this crisis and emergency, those are simple parliamentary inquiries as the underlying premise of the bill, two points, protecting the
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children and providing the full resource force helping the children. that is not giving us the contents of the bill. it is the premise of the bill for members to be able to intelligently come to the floor to assess the need to vote for the martial law. i, again, state the parliamentary inquiry. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady has not stated a proper parliamentary inquiry, and the gentleman from massachusetts is recognized. mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield one minute to the gentleman from new york, mr. rangel. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from new york is recognized for one minute. rank rank -- mr. rangel: i thank the gentleman from massachusetts. i don't know how we can frame a parliamentary inquiry to find out exactly what is in the underlying bill that we are asked to pass or vote against this rule. i know one thing. we as americans, especially those in the congress, have a particular responsibility to pass on a legacy to those who follow us in terms of what this country really stands for.
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besides the star-spangled banner and the stars and stripes, we also have close to my own place, the statue of liberty. people come from all over the world because it's symbolic of what this great country believes in. not that many years ago a group of jewish people attempted to flee germany because they feared that hitler would be looking for them in order to arrest, kill and to eliminate them as a people. we refused that ship that came into our harbor called the st. louis. we denied them the opportunity to come to this country and they returned to germany. i don't know what's on our conscience but we should take a look at our history and what we're leaving as a legacy. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from oklahoma reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts with 2 1/4 minutes remaining.
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mr. mcgovern: i yield to the gentlelady from california, ms. lofgren, 130ekds. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from california is recognized for 130ekds. ms. lofgren: mr. speaker, i'd point out that the legal experts in the country have urged that we not change the anti-slavery law. we do recognize the need for resources to make that law work. i can't help but notice that the republican majority is denying the resources to actually adjudicate these cases in the bill that was before us yesterday. i think it's ironic to say it doesn't work and then say we won't give you the resources to allow you to enforce the law. it's hypocrisy at its worse and i yield back to the gentleman. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady's time has expired. the gentleman from oklahoma reserves. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: may i inquire if the gentleman has additional speakers or will give us time? mr. cole: i'm prepared to close if the gentleman is prepared to close. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from massachusetts with 1 3/4 minutes remaining.
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mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i urge all of my colleagues to vote no on this terrible martial law rule. we have no idea what the hell we are going to be voting on. this is a rule that allows them to bring up anything between now and september 5. i'll ask my colleagues to vote no on the previous question and if we defeat the previous question i'll bring up h.r. 15, which is a bipartisan senate-passed comprehensive immigration reform bill. and mr. speaker, mr. speaker, we're talking about kids, poor kids, most of them fleeing terrible violence. i'm ashamed at the insensitivity and the lack of compassion from the other side. america is a better country. let's not lose our humanity in this process. if the united states of america stands for anything, it stands out loud for human rights. we're better than the angry mobs yelling at children. the anger and the nastyness and insensitivity is not the face of america we want to show the
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rest of the world. we are better. i urge my colleagues on the other side of the aisle to act like it. with that i yield back the balance of my time. the speaker pro tempore: the entleman yields back his time. the gentleman from oklahoma is recognized. mr. cole: mr. speaker, i yield myself the balance of our time. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. cole: we've had a very passionate and frankly in many cases compassionate debate. and i want to recognize that quality and many of the speakers and my friends on the other side. i have no doubt about their passion. i frankly have no doubt about their compassion. i know they want to do the right thing. i also want to point out, mr. speaker, that this bill actually is, as my friend from massachusetts suggested, a mechanism to keep us in session and working on the problem. so that we have the ability between now and september 5 to actually act and act quickly. i think that's a very important
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thing. it's important, too, to think back about the nature of the problem that we're dealing with. in the last three years, the number of unaccompanied juveniles arriving at our borders has gone from about 6,000 to the estimates i hear this year will be somewhere like 90,000 and may well reach 150,000 within the next year or two. the administration, according to news reports and testimony, was actually warned about this in 2012 and 2013. frankly, they didn't prepare for it. i'm quite certain they didn't anticipate it. they actually submitted a budget this year that called for cuts in many of the areas that we clearly are going to need to deal with this huge and unanticipated, i guess, on their part of influx of unaccompanied juveniles. worth noting for the record, we actually restored a lot of those cuts in the foreign
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operations bill that has now cleared the full appropriations committee. glad we did. the administration then when confronted with this crisis which did not anticipate told us this was due to the 2008 sex trafficking law. frankly, i'm somewhat skeptical about that because this influx didn't happen in 2009 or 2010 or 2012. it only begun to be re-- 2011 or 2011. it only begun in 2012. this began with the president's abrogation of immigration law. i think that's probably more likely to be the cause but regardless, the administration pointed to the 2008 law. the president has done that. the secretary of homeland security has done that. so far they've offered no formal solution, although in testimony, the homeland secretary before the senate said he would like the law changed so that people arriving
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at our borders are treated the same way as canadians and mexican juveniles. that was his request. not a repeal of the law, but that was at least in testimony his suggestion. and the president has said that regardless the majority of these children, the great majority of these children will eventually be returned home. he sent us a request recently to deal with the crisis in terms of the financial resources that he needs. did not send us a fix, did not send us proper legislative solution, just simply a mechanism for money that would go around or go outside of the ryan-murray budget agreement that we agreed upon. what's been our response? well, first i'd be the first to acknowledge this is a difficult problem to deal with. that's why the administration, i presume, has not offered us a solution. that's why the senate, which
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tried to pass one yesterday, gave up and went home. indeed yesterday we weren't able to bring legislation to the floor that would actually address the problem. difference between this body and the other body is this body decided to stay here and continue to work on it and try to come up with a legislative response. that response undoubtedly will include a fix, a tweak, an amendment to the 2008 law. now, if my friends have a better solution, then i would hope the administration or the senate or somebody offers that. so far it's been as if we blame the problem on the 2008 law but we're told you can't change the 2008 law. that position is was intelligentually and politically unable to fix the problem. if it doesn't then we'll suggest one and that's what we
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did. we looked -- there's no question, no question additional resources are needed to handle this influx to secure the border, add additional judges, to add additional courtroom facilities to handle enormous backlog so we said, ok, we're not going to give you a 13-month blank check, but we will redirect resources from within the existing budget toward what we agree is a more urgent problem and we'll help you get through this fiscal year and this calendar year. and then let's sit down and talk about what's necessary for fiscal year 2015 and try to do that within the ryan-murray budget agreement. i think that's what we're going to do. so we're willing to work with the administration in these areas. i'd also suggest at the end of the day, the worse thing we can do is go home and not do anything. my friends have suggested -- and i think appropriately so --
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that you can't tell the president he's overreaching in one area and then beg him back in another without providing legislative authority and legislative guidance. i think they're absolutely correct in that position. i made that point myself both privately and publicly. but that's what we're going to try and accomplish. hopefully we can accomplish it today. if we do that -- or this weekend -- we will have done our part of the job. the senate then, by the way, could reconvene and do its part of the job. . we can go to conference working with the administration and come up with something. somebody has to do their job and that's what this house and majority is absolutely determined to do. mr. speaker, there's not much more that can be said on a resolution that's only 10 lines long. this resolution is important so that we can consider possible legislation related to the border crisis in a timely fashion. i would urge my colleagues to
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support the rule. mr. speaker, i yield back the balance of my time and i move the previous question on the resolution. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on ordering the previous question on the resolution. so many as are in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the noes have it. the gentleman from oklahoma. mr. cole: i object to the vote on the grounds that a quorum is not present and make a point of order a quorum is not present that a quorum is not present. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from oklahoma objects on the grounds that a quorum is not present and makes a point of order a quorum is not present that a quorum is not present. a quorum not present. newly -- under the rule the yeas and nays are ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. pursuant to clause 9 of rule 20, the chair will reduce to five minutes the minimum time for any electronic vote on the question of adoption of the resolution. this is a 15-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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the speaker pro tempore: on this vote the yeas are 226. the nays are 184. the previous question is ordered. the question is on adoption of
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the resolution. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. in the opinion of the chair, the ayes have it. the gentleman from massachusetts. mr. mcgovern: i ask for a recorded vote. the speaker pro tempore: a recorded vote is requested. those favoring a recorded vote will rise. a sufficient number having arisen, a recorded vote is ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this is a five-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house proceedings for political or commercial purposes is expressly prohibited by the u.s. house of representatives.]
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