directly to the public themselves? how do you try to use the social media to your advantage? [laughter] >> well, there are so many different ways where social media factors into the way we do our work. it's interesting when a public official takes social media, often that is the news itself, and the reaction to that is news itself. we all use social media to develop new audiences and broadcast content. it is a powerful newsgathering tool, especially in terms of finding people who may have something to say about a specific event or topic. it is woven into the newsroom in so many different ways. it is just part of the daily journalism now. >> i worry less about the ability of politicians to get

around us and use social media because that's different than the secrecy issues we are talking about. i think that is as much as it is vexing for us, i think it's probably ok. it's a little weird for the media to make the case that politicians should have to engage with us to get to the public. i'm not sure that would be a winning argument that i would be willing to make. >> i'm not a big fan of handout journalism. the most productive work we do is when we ask hard questions and we try to get under the surface to find out what's really going on. the politicians will hand out press releases and it's not our job just to take stenography and provide them to the public and to go deeper. >> there have always been a whistle stop tours and a fireside chats to engage

directly with the electorate. this is just a way to do it from the comfort of your chair. >> right. >> and full disclosure i think , nabj did invite members of the administration to participate in this panel, and as far as we can tell they chose not to. edward snowden. i think everyone in the audience knows edward snowden is responsible for releasing a boatload of information on the 's coverthe nation activities. there are those who say, not withstanding, what he did whether it was right or wrong but the notion that one person was responsible for releasing this information, a relatively young person, they make the argument that it should not happen. question to the panel. is he a criminal or a whistleblower?

>> i don't -- i actually don't -- i'm going to choose to answer this in a bit of a different way. i think that he provoked an important discussion that the country was not having and could only have had with his disclosures. i think snowden gets a tremendous amount of credit. i think the country barely knew the extent of the nsa spying. there had been stories over the years, but he provoked a significant discussion and debate that we should have had. i actually think the nsa position in this case is a little bit untenable. somebody should have said, i would argue, is the country ready for the giant amount of spying that the nsa can do? without even going to the

nitty-gritty of it -- i don't think the country had that debate. i don't know what the result of that debate would have been. it might have been even more intrusive spying, but i'm not sure -- it does not answer the question. in a weird way, as a journalist, i don't think that is my question to answer. but a news organization took advantage of some of the things leaked and they were really important. >> i do not object to making it illegal and attaching penalties to someone that has sworn not to release information and sign the inside the government and its reasonable for the government to consider and potentially criminal if they do. it's a very different question from our responsibility in my view is we have not stolen or paid someone to steal the information, our job is to inform the public. we are in a different role.

and maybe the administration's job to protect information like this, but it's our job to release it. being careful about not putting any additional people in jeopardy if we get it. being a lawyer, i am not going to convict him without a trial , but in these situations, sometimes it is civil disobedience and they choose knowing their penalties but more important for our discussion, it is our responsibility if something is newsworthy and we did not steal it, to present it to the public and let it be part of the public beta. >> i am also going to dodge this. [laughter] it's not my place to say, but think of what we know now because of the his disclosures? what we know now is really important. people had to write another government was doing it. >> do you think the disclosures helped or hurt our cause in terms of trying to get more information out of the

government? >> i would argue they help our cause for two reasons. the government has yet to offer substantial proof that they truly hurt national security, which helps our cause because that is always the argument. the second thing, i think in the case of wiki leaks and in the case of snowden, the press behaved aggressively and responsively. i have worked, i mean, i have looked at the snowden disclosures in the course of our coverage of it. there are things that everyone, including glenn greenwald, has not disclosed. i think it proved that the press can be very responsible and is not looking to just throw things up that jeopardizes lives. i think it helps our cause. the government might argue otherwise, but i would make the

case that we were doing what we were supposed to do but we were careful. >> i guess my view, we in the media, we will never win any popularity contests. we're sort of down with public opa approval, and i think that's ok. the real resistance to powerful institutions in our society right now, we are often lumped together with other powerful institutions and it's kind of a populist resistance to people with a lot of power. the fact is that the media does. i would say that it's our job to do it well and responsibly. not worry too much about whether we are popular as we're doing it as long as we think we are performing a public service. >> i do worry about the chilling effect depending on what ends up happening to snowden and the chelsea manning case, it certainly must discourage people who would be tempted to disclose

that kind of information from doing it in the future. while i agree the media has credited itself with the way they have handled these cases but i worry about this like i do , the james risen case. >> one of the most common things, by the way, that you hear a lot is i'm going to lose my job. i think it's a very serious concern. >> i want to take advantage of the years of experience and your thoughts on this here to give some of the young journalist out s and other journalists out here a sense of some best actresses. -- best practices. what advice do you have for organizations or individuals who come under fire of the government, be it city hall, the state, or federal government in terms of protecting sources? >> i'll start.

clearly, we are living in a world where you have to assume that your work is being watched. you have to the very careful about the use of e-mail. there are encrypted e-mails. you have to be very careful about phone calls, particularly in going places where you think you are being watched or followed. at the very least, you want to turn off your phone. that is probably not enough. very often you don't want to have your phone on you. when we travel globally, we take a burner phone, we will take an electronic device with no sensitive material on it. there are lots you need to do in terms of basic self protection. there was a report done by the aclu talking to 50 journalists about how you are being deterred. the main thing they said is they feel like they are in the espionage business now more than the news business. you do have to be careful about all of those things. we way over use e-mail and there is someone looking whether it is

a foreign government, federal, or local. being careful about all of those things is really important. you have to exercise best practices in be very clear with your source about whether you are protecting them and under what circumstances. you need to be clear with your editors under what rules you are operating under. will your organization back you up? it's important to work in an organization that will back you up. one of the virtues of the large mainstream media, although we all have our faults, is that these organizations really do support journalists when they are in trouble, and it becomes important in a world where that happened more and more. >> steve made two really key points. i would hope anyone in that situation as a reporter could rely on the organization they work for to go to bat for them. i think this is more important than ever, but to make sure in negotiating the terms of disclosure with your source that they understand the risk they are taking on as well as being

aware of the risk. that you are taking on. i think those conversations need to have a much more detailed conversation about those types of disclosure and they have gone up dramatically in the past couple of years. they are possibly risking jail time and other penalties. they should know that. it's part of a journalist's responsibility to make sure your source is aware of the risk they are taking. >> i think i would agree with both of you in best practices, making sure your editors are behind you, and then the other thing i would add is more of a cheerleader point, which is to keep doing it. what inspires me about jim is he did not come to me and say he would actually like to cover the agriculture department or just do something different. he remained in the realm of national security. he continues to break stories. he's hampered, but he is still

in the game, and i think that sends a tremendous signal to the people who want to chill is reporting but also a signal to those who do that kind of reporting. case, every jim ricsen there are dozens if not hundreds of subpoenas and not everyone of these cases end up with the potential for jail time which i for the journalist involved, which i think is an important point. that very rarely gets to this point. >> one thing that's really encouraging, speaking to this firm is the younger journalists , and those coming into the business that i have been meeting are amazingly intrepid and have tools that we don't have. they're really good at social media, searching on the web. there are people working for buzz feed, vice, and they are all doing a really exciting work and that's a positive indication of where the world is heading. even if you can stifle, there

some organizations there are so , many people out there trying to get information that it's a real positive. >> the only thing i would add to this, and this sort of plays on something steve said earlier, the ability to get -- especially for international investigative stories, some of the best investigative work of any news organization over the last couple of years have been international investigative reporting some based on public record. you're trying to cover what amounts to war in yemen and pakistan, there are ways to report inside this country. you can behave safely if you keep finding stuff out. there will still be ways. let's not forget for all the restrictions, i would include the two news organizations on my left and right, there have been some remarkable disclosures in the last couple of years that show the press is still in the game in the big way.

>> this has been terrific and i want to thank you all again. i think we have time for questions from the audience. please step up to the microphone and ask your question. >> i do not think it is on. >> can someone help her to see if that is on? there we go. >> hello. i'm from the university of the virgin islands. aspiring journalist. you touched on it briefly, but research is hard, expensive, and it requires copious amounts of in-depth work, so to see, and you did touch on safety. i have a question in regards to that a little bit more. you are talking about burn phones, but if you are really in

to a story, is there a way for you to be as careful as you can possibly be? what would you advise? if someone is out to find you and stop you, most likely they will do everything in their power, and sometimes that's a lot of power. it's a dangerous case. espionage is what it seems like when we are trying to get information because there are connections with cops, government officials, and you want to protect yourself as well as your sources. can you elaborate a little bit more on that? i am very intrigued when you listed burn phones, and i was like what else, what else. [laughter] >> again there are all sorts of , tools to encrypt things but i think your point is very often they won't work, right? are you talking about being in a physical danger? >> as you said before, as we excel in technology, we also

excel in ways we can be caught. we are getting better at social media, there are more ways to be caught through social media. they can track your e-mails, they can also track your facebook accounts. whatever you post on facebook, your employers and anyone else in the future can go in there and peruse. >> i operate under the assumption that everything i say, somebody is listening to it. i think that's a worthwhile assumption. obviously here or on television, i know i'm being looked at, but on the phone, i assume that, too. when my parents who are 91 asked me what i did this week, i say i cannot really tell you on the phone because literally, i'm fairly confident whether it's this here in government, someone in china or iran, there is someone listening. a lot of it is changing our habits and thinking about the fact that there is someone

listening. if you are doing journalism in this country, we don't want to over scare people. to my knowledge there's one person in jail in the united states for doing journalism so it's very rare that it ends up that you get thrown in jail. one thing i have always found helpful, particularly when i work for small newspapers, was to write about it when someone is giving you a hard time. in other words, to make public what the problem is. if you're being investigated, write about it. again we have a lot of power. , we have tools. we own the presses, is what we used to say, we own the ability to distribute. that threat becomes newsworthy and we report the threat. that's just a couple of thoughts. >> hello. i'm a producer for the department of defense, specifically covering intelligence. >> that's interesting. [laughter] >> i take back everything i said.

>> it is very interesting. [laughter] >> i want to talk to you when this is over. [laughter] >> how do you decide when covering a story when to release a report or not if the government says this could potentially put someone's life in jeopardy? a case officer out in the field -- how do you make that determination of is this legitimate, or should we run this story anyway? have there been moments when you have held off on an investigation or a report because of those concerns? >> my standard has become you have to give me absolute detail of what you mean. it used to be the government would say, "if you publish this story it violates national security, and someone will get killed." that's not good enough for me. i want to hear who. i want to hear the specifics.

obviously i don't mean tell me how they are going to get killed. tell me what you mean. you cannot give me vague -- i really want to know. you mean a case officer in tehran? tell me how. thing i demand that a request to hold something back comes from from someone very high on the government. if the press person asks for it, i won't even take the call. it has to come from someone in the white house, the head of the cia, the head of the nsa. it cannot come from a press person. usually when you say that, by the way, half of all requests go away because they're not quite willing to ratchet it up that high. i always insist they ratchet it up that high with offering a very, very specific proof. still, most of the time we go with the story.

but if somebody offers -- are there stories we have held over the years? stories that met that standard -- yes. i will give you a classic one that has now been written about. i think most news organizations did not write extensively about corporal bowe bergdahl and his disappearance. we knew a lot about it. there was tremendous amount of information about it in the wiki leaks documents, which i was involved in. we were in an awkward position because right around the same time, a reporter from "the new york times" had disappeared, david rogue. we were nervous about too much detail about his case coming out. the government asked about bergdahl they made an , interesting case that if we wrote stories about him that it would endanger his life. i can think of a lot of cases

where i made a mistake and i was too cautious. by and large, those are the standards. it has to come from someone high up. it has to be very specific. i don't want to hear that i will have blood on my hands. i don't want to hear the vague that this will help the terrorists. i want very, very specific stuff. >> in the case of the foiled terror plot that led to the justice department sweeping up all those ap records, that story was held for five days at the government's request. their request was based on the fact that the operation was still ongoing and they were hunting these guys down. it was only after the government said that it would not jeopardize the operation that the story was published, which makes what happened next even more outrageous. >> but that is the classic one. if it's an ongoing investigation and they make the case and they are very specific and it comes

from somebody high up, that's a harder one to refuse. >> thank you. >> hi. professor libby lewis from ucla, former news reporter for cbs and nbc. i have a general question for each of the panelists. i'm wondering should we, as journalists, educators, etc., be concerned about relationships between the government and journalists when we see more and more in the news, we hear about journalists covering stories in other countries being held as potential spies, being accused of spying for the u.s. and other things? should we be concerned about the fact that the cia and the fbi have recruiting booths here at various journalism organizations?

not just nabj, but various ones. doesn't that beg the question -- what are they here for? these are journalism conferences and why are they interested? should we be concerned? >> we have journalists in the 200 locations around the world, almost 3000 journalists. it is a not uncommon problem where foreign governments accuse and haul our journalists in for being spies often for the u.s. any ambiguity, and we'll we say we have no association with any government, and we are entirely independent. whatever accusation is entirely untrue, but any ambiguity about that in a government has about their using people who purport to be journalists as spies really puts lives in danger. i am extremely concerned

about it. that's not to say that the cia does not need people with journalistic skills to do things that they need to do so i'm not saying recruiting people for other things is a problem, but any time an intelligence organization uses the journalistic cover, it puts our people and journalists around the world in enormous jeopardy. >> thank you. in many of the countries that our news operates, the fact that we are independent does not resonate because the notion of independence does not translate. particularly for news agencies, the standard definition is that it is something tied to the government. the type of agency that ap and reuters are, it's hard for people to comprehend. when i was in asia, i often had to explain that ap does not

stand for american press and we had no connection to the government. the conversation can be very difficult to have because intellectually we all understand the definition that there are countries in which every entity is controlled by the government whether it is industry, education, or media. >> thank you. >> andrew humphrey, wdiv in detroit, michigan, and cofounder of the digital task force for nabj. what other loopholes exist now in the law that you can enlighten us on? for example, the patriot act, can electronic equipment can be confiscated at u.s. borders by customs and be searched without warrant? things of that sort. >> to be honest, i'm not familiar with that rope enough to sort of go through the list. i don't know if you guys are. i am not sure. >> i think we would need a media lawyer. there's not one on this panel.

>> that's the next panel. >> i can speak specifically to the guidelines about seizure of records, in which there is still a loophole. the loophole that the attorney general needs to sign off if it poses a threat or compromise the integrity of the investigation, and they can still do what they did to the ap. the loophole is smaller, but it still exists. >> federal laws broadly in the area of surveillance sometimes are wildly overused. there was an internet entrepreneur who downloaded a bunch of documents from m.i.t. cache, and he ended up being indicted on very, very serious felony charges and ultimately committed suicide.

he was operating in ways that would be parallel to ways journalists operate. there are some pretty draconian laws that are still on the books. >> hi. i'm from world policy journal. something i've noticed in the last few months buzzing around social media, especially more recently around the conflict in israel and gaza is this impression among the general public that somehow the u.s. government or other governments are putting pressure on your organizations to color coverage in general. i am not speaking about specific cases about classified documents , or operations, but in general the state department or the u.s. military or the obama administration is pressuring the "new york times" or the associated press to run certain stories, not run certain stories, to cover a hospital that was hit or not hit for a

u.n. compound. can you guys speak to that specifically? this is something which i try to correct with my colleagues, but may be coming from your mouth it may or may not be more persuasive. can you talk about what contact you guys have from the administration or other governments about your general coverage of certain issues, or topics, or conflicts? >> what you'd just described -- and i suspect my two colleagues would say the same thing -- that does not happen. i have never had -- i was a washington bureau chief, editor, i have never had -- i have had many complaints about coverage, usually complaints about profiles that people thought were too negative. the obama administration is very sensitive, but in terms of how to cover things, how to place photos, i've never had a conversation like that. none at all with anyone in the government.

i would bet these guys have not either. >> no, and i think if that were to happen, the obvious answer would be no because we are subject to our own editorial decisions. >> there is almost no subject than israel andva palestine that both think they are biased. we get in or miss increases in -- we get enormous increases in complaints when that story is flaring up from people on both sides leading to some conspiracy -- coverage. leave this see it in its entirety on c-span.org. live now to the discussion of race. this forum is one of many being featured today during their annual convention.

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>> good morning. welcome, everyone, to the nation's capital for the asian american journalists association's national convention. i would like to welcome viewers of c-span, as we discuss race and the midterm elections and beyond. for you viewers out there, we are an organization of 1700 journalists, media professionals, and students across the u.s.. we have a chapter in asia. welcome to our convention. the midterm elections are in full swing. democrats and republicans are fighting for control over congress, the u.s. senate in particular at play. the jockeying is underway for the 2016 race for the white house.

this morning will be looking at the election through the prism of race and the country's changing demographics. the heartland project is a special project based in nebraska to enhance reporting of communities of color and lgbt issues. on the panel this morning we have christine chen, executive director of api vote, a nonpartisan group that works to engage in [inaudible] michelle, on the general news desk for the associated press in washington. she was on the political disk for the 2012 election -- desk

for the 2012 election. she is also a past president of the national association of hispanic journalists. william douglas covers congress and national politics for the washington bureau newspapers, which includes "the sacramento bee," "miami herald," and "kansas city star." now 17% population is latino. asian-americans account for 6% and blacks, 13%. the number of whites is falling, now accounting for 62%. that is the backdrop to our discussion. about 40 minutes and we will save some time for some questions from the audience. we are hoping to engage the panelists in a conversation. interjectl free to

and ask your own questions of each other. questions frome the guests until the end of the program. bill, give us an overview of what has happened so far in the midterm elections and how the battle between democrats and republicans -- what it might mean, in particular of interest to persons of color. >> thank you for having me. the midterm election is not until november, but we have had profound changes in congress, particularly in the house of representatives. you have a major change in the house with eric cantor losing his virginia primary race. he lost his majority leader position. , then later left congress. that was one of the biggest changes. that, the house will likely remain in control by republicans.

senate, you have had a bunch of jockeying. you have open seats created by retirements, particularly of key democrats like rockefeller in west virginia, carl levin in michigan, max baucus, who went on to become president obama's ambassador to china. those are open seats and create some openings for republicans. for the republicans to gain control of the senate, they have to have a net gain of six seats. right now polls indicate about nine races are considered tossups. there are some openings there as well. it is not going to be easy. the republicans have not won a net gain of six seats in years. i think it dates back to 1980. they have some advantages in the states states,

president barack obama lost in 2012. they're making the race a referendum on president obama both on domestic and foreign-policy. there has been a lot of stuff in the news about the situation overseas in syria, afghanistan, iraq. his poll numbers are going down, and republicans see opportunity with his down the poll numbers. it looks like it could be trending in the republican direction. you can never say never in an election. republicans are feeling relatively confident, particularly some republicans in the senate who survived what they thought would be difficult primary challenges. you had cochran in mississippi who survived a pretty ferocious tea party supported challenge, runoff.ame down to a

it came down to cochran having to court the black vote, which made a major difference in his prospects. mitch mcconnell would be the senate majority leader if he wins his race in november. is race is considered by some polls to be a tossup. he might not be the majority leader because he might not be in the senate. he is well-funded. he is a savvy campaigner and he is well organized. losing --hood of him it could happen. we will put it that way. he is a fierce campaigner and a strong campaigner. he has a democratic challenger who is making him work for it. senator pat roberts in kansas recently survived a primary challenge, people who were taking him to task for not spending enough time in his

state. you have all these balls in the air right now in the senate. it is trending towards republicans. anything can happen. some races people thought were going to be closer right now, democrats are breathing a little bit easier. al franken in minnesota has a difficult challenge. his numbers are looking better. udall in colorado has a difficult challenge. he was thought to be one of the more endangered democrats in polls. a tough race is north carolina .un on, kay hagan she is in a challenging race in north carolina. the democratic party is infusing her race with cash, i believe $9 million. beings a race that them the democrats are fiercely defending. mary landrieu in louisiana faces

a difficult race. she has been campaigning very hard on what she delivers to her state, hoping she can avoid losing in november. if she doesn't get over 50% in inember, avoiding a runoff december. what does this translate to in terms of issues concerning people of color? you have got some members of the republican party who are actually courting the african-american vote and the hispanic vote rather actively. you have a concerted effort by the rnc to court the african-american vote. this is a legacy of the 2012 found theirthey numbers with african-americans -- obama got 96% of the black vote. their numbers with hispanics were rather disappointing. they're making a hard effort to court that.

in the african-american side of the ledger, not necessarily to win the african-american vote -- that is a solid democratic lock -- block. they like to cut into that lead a bit. if they can cut into that lead, that can make things difficult for candidates at the margins. vote, it is anic bit more complicated. you have an instance where the is divided onty immigration. some members of the party support comprehensive immigration reform. some members don't. you are getting a mixed message that some hispanic voters are finding difficult to decipher. that is the pie they have to slice up. where it leads in november, it will be interesting to see. play are several issues at affect peopleat

of color. you have the voting rights act. summerreme court last issued a ruling which crippled some segments of the voting rights act. that has to be addressed. the court put the onus on congress to address it. there are bills in congress to fix the voting rights act. wanted to have that on the house floor by the end of the year. bills had moved nowhere in the house or the senate. some republicans in congress feel what the supreme court did with the voting rights act is some democrats were reluctant to sign onto it as well. that needs to be addressed. immigration reform is still up in the air. it is unclear whether or not that will be addressed. this year, it is unclear. it is a very hot political football.

no one knows where it is going to go right now. everyone agrees it is going nowhere. with that, i will take it over to my white house colleague. >> let's take a look back at whether president obama delivered for communities of his keyhat were successes and failures. he is the first president of color. who knows when we might have another one in the white house. did he deliver for them? we are all breaking the cardinal rule of washington, d.c. in august, which is not talking about politics. we are supposed to be on vacation. so trying to keep it short we can have a lively discussion. briefly,-up on bill the white house recognizes the challenges right now. they are well aware of the danger they have of losing the senate. it would make president obama's life much more difficult.

if you lost the senate, it would be even harder and you would have trouble making the case is how is he the only one not willing to take any action. they are the bad guys, we are the good guys. that is the argument you will be hearing. asked -- i was busy on a story about whether president obama had addressed what is going on in ferguson, missouri directly enough, whether african-american communities believe the president had felt the pain of what is going on in their community. it is a question that has come up repeatedly with this president. the african-american community strongsupport is very for this president among african-americans, but they have high hopes for him, higher than everyone else. the danger for the president is to let down some of those hopes.

he did cannot yesterday and address in a way what is happening in missouri. he did not talk about race to correctly. he did address the need for society to come together and justice to be done in that community. when you look back at the legacy of this president, they would say they took over a country that had a lot of problems. and thatmy, two wars, is what they had to address off the bat. what the president says he has accomplished maybe foremost for african-americans and other groups. the economy has improved, in some ways. the president has done a lot to of hisat a part first-term agenda. they recognize there are still a lot of waste to go, jobless numbers coming down. there is still frustration in the communities that the job

remains higher, much higher for african-americans and other groups. -- 70% voted in favor of the president during the same with asian communities in 2012, really hurting the romney campaign. at least for hispanics, they believe the president would do something on immigration. [indiscernible] immigration is a big one. our latest poll in "the washington post" shows the hispanic party very frustrated with both parties for immigration. they believe the democrats have not come through. the president will talk about health care as being something else he did. presidentbelieve the

-- he pushed it hard on his second term. hispanics'polls show 54%.val rating dropped to the president's ratings have plummeted across the board. that is twice as high as the overall average grade that is a big statement -- average. that is a big statement. to president is going announce a major effort on immigration through executive action. democrats, there are some concerns that immigration will not play well in the 2014 campaign. a lot of states bill talked about do not have a lot of hispanic or asian voters who care a lot about this issue. the president will probably go forward with this right before the election.

democrats hope it will inspire progressives to come out. overall support for the president remains strong. particular have an even higher bar for this resident. he still needs to match it, particularly in some instances with hispanics and others, he decisionsinteresting to make about how he will be seen in his legacy going forward. >> let's move on to michele. we are talking about a lot of our immigration here. the latino voters are the big prize for both parties. latino voters are expressing disappointment over the fact that immigration -- changes in immigration policy has not happened.

them backocrats get in, and how do republicans make stronger inroads to the latino vote? thank you for inviting me. it's great to see such a terrific turnout this morning. i think there are a couple of things happening, and it has to do with the fact that there is a big slice of latinos that are certainly up for grabs. it is not a coincidence that this is a swing demographic. supported george bush 40% in 2004, then swung over to obama in the 70% area for 2012. both parties are making a concerted effort. what the midterm elections are all about is going to be turnout , and whether latinos are going to turn out for the midterm election.

there are not a lot of races where latinos are going to make a difference, and that adds to the frustration in no small measure because of the way the districts were redrawn after the 2010 census. thatgroups are challenging very there is a challenge going on right now in florida to redraw some of those districts. whether in fact they will impact the midterms clearly remains to be seen. the frustration among latinos is very high over immigration, and also the way the central american children are being treated. on,rhetoric that is going ,he bill that passed the house which stripped out $3 million or $4 million for legal

on for these children, many of whom are applying for asylum. there are very few resources , andable for attorneys there is not going to be any more coming. the process -- the republicans voted to expedite the process. as rnc growth and opportunity, both for 2013 which was the so-called autopsy done after the republicans -- after romney's loss in the 2012 election said, quoting, if a hispanic american perceives that a gop candidate does not want them in the united states, for example, it will not

pay attention to our next sentence. it does not matter what we say about education, jobs, or the economy if hispanics think that we do not want them here. goingve this dichotomy on. you have congress sending this clear message, we don't want them here, then we have the libre initiative, an organization being funded by the foundedthers, who also a number of conservative causes, who are trying to make inroads into the latino communities in in orderargeted states to bring them over to the republican party and get them to embrace conservative causes. liberal,re fiscally but they want the government -- they want to know the government

is there to help them if it is needed. at the same time, they are socially conservative. voting,e swing depending on where the candidates come down in the spectrum on which issues. with all of that said, it may very well be that for the there really hasn't anything been done on immigration. they need that turnout in order to retain the seats they have and not lose any more ground in the senate. 2010 trend for

hispanic voter turnout actually increased. if that trend continues, there is possibility that they could -- the turnout would increase, and they could have an impact. with that said, we're only talking about an increase of 3% in 2010. .e will see how that impacts that goes against a presidential trend where the rates of latinos voting actually declined between 2008 and 2012. we will see what happens in 2016. >> we have christine chen, the vote,ive director of api a national nonpartisan group that works to engage asian americans and pacific islanders in the electoral process. christine, you are looking at this from a different point of view. you are looking at it from the ground up.

you're part of the grassroots network trying to engage voters out there. if you might be able to describe how difficult it might be these days to get people engaged. american, asian pacific islander community, two thirds of their community are first-generation immigrants. learning thishey new process, we are also seeing a lot more barriers as election laws and voting rights laws change in each of the specific states. as that continues to change, there needs to be more outreach into the community in regard to the basics as far as, how do you make sure you get registered. let alone, the whole idea about motivation and the frustration that the asian american pacific islander community has in regard to immigration still being stalled. for us, family reunification for

the community has been a top priority. in our 2012 postelection polling as well as pre-election polling as well. >> do you think that the news media, your fellow panelists, are they doing enough to engage people and are they writing about the issues and concerns that will get them to the polls? pick on them individually. [laughter] with dave, i actually knew him back in the day, when he was a "washington post" beat reporter. we address the whole issue about a headline called [indiscernible] some of the relationships have been long-standing. there still needs to be a lot more work that we do in this industry to include api stories in the greater context. whether it is immigration,

discussions, in terms of the coverage of the elections -- one of our frustrations throughout the years is that we are all safe -- always missing in the data. in 2012, a number of put in resources to conduct our own polling. without some of that data, there would be no news coverage. ,> in 2012, asian americans ,espite our low numbers overall actually made a difference in two battleground states. newsrooms,lot of including mine, did not do any stories until after the fact. how do you think, switching back to an earlier question i asked, how do you think the white house

and this president of color -- , addressing he done the concerns of the aapi communities, african-american communities, and latinos? , it really has shed light to our community in feel thateing able to person of color and one of us could serve as president or serve our country in a variety of ways. he has done a great job in terms of appointments. the first term he was able to appoint three asian-american pacific islanders to the cabinet. zero.rently have that is the first time in over a decade where we actually don't have aapi represented in the

cabinet itself. started, there was only eight on the federal bench and he has tripled to 25. there continues to be frustration in regards to immigration. in terms of staffing, it has been a lot more positive. the white house initiative on asian-american pacific islanders was an initiative that was renewed by the president, and expanded their jurisdiction where in the past, it was only focused on small businesses and economics, but now it has been expanded to a wide range of agencies all across. >> the president has roots in asia-pacific. [inaudible] [laughter] hawaii.oots in to other things, i cover what the resident calls

the pivot to asia. place of asia the as something that is important to him. thingtrying to do this where they shift the foreign policy away from the middle east of europe to asia as part [inaudible] he has a lot of interest in that. that is not necessarily register among asian-americans. i think it was a story that i quoted you in -- i was a reporter in loudoun county, " --inia, "washington post 1998, i guess. the lyrics were going on and i covered education. -- olympics were going on and i covered education. if i remember, you were head of the chinese -- [inaudible]

we did a story. the editors had no idea what i was talking about. i ended up running it. they did not edit a word of it. [indiscernible] >> you also knew your demographics. now we look at for genia, loudoun county -- virginia, loudoun county. the electorate represents a 14%. there is a growing population there. is 11igration -- there -plus undocumented immigrants -- i think a million of those are of asian descent. the latino community is -- theted in the undocumented population is huge.

there are huge waiting lists in asia to come here. the philippines may have a 20 year wait list. when i covered immigration out of the white house, i get a lot of stories about the latino point of view. up asian calling groups involved in this and ended up having a big story that they cared about something else, which was this legal immigration system. was to movedebate it away from what asians cared that andduce some of put it on business visas and get them on board. it became a big issue with asian groups. [indiscernible] visas, never their came back. i want to go back to something bill had mentioned earlier.

you said he had to reach out to the black population. mississippi is considered one of the most -- >> it has history. tight, the race was cochrane campaign with the help establishing the republican chair in d.c. made a concerted effort to reach out to african-american voters who responded -- >> but how? how do you talk to people who have not trusted an entire party for so long? how do you get them back? think the carrot was, look at the guy cochrane is running against. >> true. >> apparently that was enough. did not like cochrane's opponent. -- some

african-americans saw what they saw in the 1960's in the opponent. you'reochrane had won, still getting some blowback that some group said the election was stolen. to opponent said he wanted have an investigation for voter fraud. the rules of the election permitted african-americans who were mostly democratics to vote in that primary, and they did. they felt they voted their interests. that was a motivating factor. will that translate to other republican races? unclear. this was a unique situation that happened in mississippi. in other states. the african-american community new cochrane -- knew cochran.

african-americans overwhelmingly vote democratic. you have some instances in some where they might like their republican congressman or their republican senator. it is not unusual in a state race or a senate race to have a hasblican that african-american voters. african-americans are not a monolith. you mentioned hispanics are fiscally liberal and socially conservative. could almostcans whichn in the same light, also has appeal for the republican party. if you look at the legislative , remember that african-americans voted for

george wallace in his later days. african-americans voted for strom thurmond in his later days. it happens. this was different. it was unusual, but not unique. >> we are also seeing some similar tactics being used in example, thefor republican candidate in illinois is targeting african-americans a way cochrane did in mississippi, and also tim scott is targeting in an attemptrida to reach the governor's mansion. picking a few off here and there, and they add up to big numbers, which is the obama strategy. prince reavis has made a concerted effort to

[indiscernible] american voters. they have people who go into states and train republican candidates to interact with to gon-american voters, into african-american churches, to learn how to ask for that vote. not goingze they are to get -- they will not win the african-american vote, but if you can pick off a few -- the perfect example would be the bush campaign in 2004. what his overall african-american numbers were. i believe he got 14% of the african-american vote in ohio, which was a deciding state, and the reason why he got such a high african-american vote in ohio was that i believe at that time there was a gay marriage referendum. it goes into the african-american conservatism at that time.

a bunch of gay marriage referendums on the ballot in several states in that election year. it worked very effectively in ohio. since 2012, our organization has been contacted or a much by the rnc. they have been asking for information, data, and in terms of the issues that we care about and where our communities are organizing. i also view it as, they also have a lot more to go. higher andtarted to asian-american staffer right , while the democrats for over a decade they have always had a staffer at the dnc. in terms of political pacts or organizationally where there are staffers of asian-american descent working on the different campaigns, the democrats have a long list of resumes and folks that they can tap into versus

the republicans are just now starting to build that. ultimately, it is also going to be about the issues and how they address that and where they vote in terms of representing our communities. there is hope in terms of the because 47% of our community does not necessarily identify as democrat or republican or conservative or progressive. rightgain, the democrats now, for those who do identify with a party, they have a 2-1 edge -- >> but there has been a strong trend towards democrats. the republicans in georgia age. bush, he won the asian vote. now, we are talking about three fourths of the asian vote for obama. chelle, we have got two high-profile senators who are

ambassadors. we're talking about ted cruz out of texas and marco rubio over in florida. you would have thought that their ascension would have perhaps translated to more votes from the latino community. >> no, it hasn't happened and is unlikely to happen. marco rubio's numbers among latinos are very poor. as the african-american community, it's not monolithic, neither is the latino community. from 23 countries throughout latin america and the caribbean. some of us have strong ties to the united states because we have been here for six and seven and eight generations. some of us got here 10 minutes ago. some of us are fluent in english. some of us speak no spanish. some of us are bilingual. some of us are monocultural from our native countries.

u.s. becausee 110% we speak in bush, we are american, we have assimilated. that is the spectrum you are dealing with. that is the spectrum that marketers are trying to figure out how to attract. our buying power is in the trillions. we are a force. we are veryw fragmented, and it looks like we will be that way for quite some and marcoin ted cruz rubio, who are both cuban, have a very, very different experience than most of the latinos in this country. most of the latinos in this country are of mexican origin, mid 60's like 64% -- percentages. that is a very different experience from the cuban experience, many of whom came in result of0's as a

special immigration status which continues to this day. , who -- a mexicans huge chunk of this country was once part of mexico. culturally, language dominant terms of history and culture, there are ties that remain very strong. those two experiences are very different. the mexican experience, which is the bulk of the latino community here, is not necessarily related culturally to rubio and to cruise -- cruz. >> you also look at what happened on immigration day. rubio -- >> and cruise as well -- cruz as well. the idea that if a

republican could eat through the primary of 2016, it would be helpful if they were in some favor of immigration that would help them in the general election. a bipartisan group of senators really went after rubio, you have him and said, to be part of this. you're the young face of the party. he went for it. he's also mentored by jeb bush, who has been a huge proponent of immigration and continues to be. >> the minute the thing passed, rubio's poll numbers among his base, ted. -- base plummeted. ted cruz is one of the strongest anti-immigration voices.

this is a dichotomy for all republicans. you said bush -- he has been better in terms of being more program, but he's not in office. >> picked up on the outreach issue. --had a poll -- mcclatchy looking at the potential publican presidential candidates. there were some interesting numbers regarding ted cruz and rand paul. cruz'sea party support, numbers shot up. i think he was at 15%. paul's numbers strong. to 7% or he was down 8%. paul's decline as he is may be making a move to become president, he is spoken more about issues of voting rights

for felons. he spoke out about the use of over militarization in ferguson. he he has talked about some demeanors. that is costing him some among tea party support. >> let's save some time for questions. 30 seconds each, please. looking forward to the 2016 election, who do you think has the best chance for energizing communities of color in this race for the white house that is developing. >> for a candidate? hillary were to run -- it is more of an infrastructure. we have already seen aapi's rating for hillary, and pac's, other organizations building

around that. >> difficult question. field is so wide right now. it is hard to pinpoint who does what. someone like christie, for example, would he have a better chance than cruz or r ubio? >> in my 30 seconds which have christiedown to 15 -- has a greater appeal to mainstream republicans than cruz does at this point. so, maybe. non-answer. [inaudible] [laughter] >> michelle? >> it is too early to tell. there are going to be a lot of ups and downs. let's just look at hillary clinton at one point she had -- last year there was a poll that -- shee -- god knows why

had 60% of hispanic support. and then she talked about sending the central american ons back, and was tone deaf immigration, and her numbers are now down in the 20's. there's lots of room between now and next year for numbers to rise and fall. >> bill clinton. [laughter] or joe biden. it is hard to tell. couldked about jeb bush he is still more moderate on immigration and maybe has support in florida. it is hard to handicap. >> a cautionary tale about your question. campaign,he 2008 hillary clinton was polling 60% among african-american voters. and she did not quite make that. [laughter] time, a lot of

african-americans did not know who barack obama was. he made up a lot of ground in a very short period of time. >> we know who he is now. let's open up for questions out there. we probably have time for a couple of them. anyone? anyone? >> don't be shy. [inaudible] >> you're a journalist. >> [inaudible] why is it that asian-americans have not broken through? there are very few politicians that have broken through. [inaudible] what does it take for the asian-american community to break through for politicians to talk about it, and then journalists? a it has been exciting to see

lot more energy in organizing from the asian-american pacific islander community for the midterm elections. usually midterm elections, we see a different turnout. we see a lot more activity from our community. more tighter races, especially on the local level. we are seeing where in the past, elected officials do not have a strategy to reach out to our community that the state legislators are actually noticing because of the population growth in terms of the activity in organizing from our community, and we are seeing that having them influencing congressional members as well as eventually the presidential campaign. and virginiaada and florida continue to be battleground states, our population is growing there as well. between -- arward, number of work is being done by our community in terms of

increasing voter registration and participation, to finally have a data around our community so we are demystifying about how to outreach to our constituent group. >> any other questions before we close the session out? right there. >> [inaudible] i know we talked a little bit about how fragmented the hispanic voters are right now, but when asian-americans get that politician who rises , do you thinknks that our population will also be as fragmented and it will depend on which country they came from? do you see those problems in our future as well? >> overall, in our 2012 postelection polling, we saw the for president obama and also in terms of heavily democratic. even in terms of the vietnamese population who traditionally

vote republican, we also saw a shift in that in the 2012 polling. that is another reason why the republicans have been doing more work in terms of our reaching. that is a red alert to them if they are losing the vietnamese population as well. in the latest ucla polls almanac, there are now 4000 aapi elected officials and those appointed on different commissions. we are seeing a lot more engagement in terms of even running for office and being appointed. energizes our community and creates a pipeline in terms of folks that could be in other offices as well as political appointments. >> one more question, if there are any. >> again, for you. there is not that unifying language in the asian community -- the set play a big factor in our influence in politics [inaudible]

>> the reality is that when you are running a campaign, you are really looking at your local base. aen you are looking at campaign in virginia, you may be focusing more on the korean, vietnamese, and indian population versus in minnesota, it would be the month population -- mung population. it goes back down to knowing your audience locally and doing that. for ourselves, we always take into account that we have to do a lot more work in terms of translating materials and making sure our community enters into the process and really does a lot more of that work in hopes -- and hopes the campaign will be easier to outreach to them. >> with that, i would like to thank everybody for coming to our session. chen,you to christine bill douglas, michelle, and david.

and thank you to viewers at c-span for joining us this morning. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2014] [inaudible] [indiscernible] [indistinct conversations]

>> later this afternoon we will have more from the asian american journalists association annual convention, a panel on how media outlets cover asian american and immigrant issues. that will be live at 3:00 p.m. eastern here on c-span. getng up shortly, we will live remarks from missouri governor jay nixon. he is expected to address the community unrest. thomas jackson held a briefing to name the officer involved in the shooting of michael brown earlier this week. that officer's name is darren wilson. we expect further details of the incident. startoverage of that will

at noon eastern. we will have it for you live on c-span. also live today, we will head to the center for the national interest for a look at ongoing russian intervention in ukraine and its implications for the region and the u.s. that discussion will start at 12:30 eastern. tonight, c-span's american history tour will take us around the country for stories from the civil war. the civil wart era medicine, as well as the battle of chattanooga and the impact of the union victory there over the confederacy. here is a quick look. late a remarkable scene that day, union troops would penetrate the confederate lawn along the crest of missionary ridge at multiple points, almost theltaneously, and send confederate army, retreating all from the ridge back down into georgia. with that union success on november 25 and a brief pursuit

august 20 six and 27, chattanooga is now firmly in union hands. it will be turned by the union winterer that coming into a giant supply base, similar to our operating basis today. it is from chattanooga that following spring that sherman will take a combined union army and advance outward from andtanooga towards atlanta into that military-industrial heartland come and disrupt it and destroy much of it and bring the war to a close in the spring of 1865. observers and participants at the time believed that union was as at chattanooga signal of ultima union success in the war. some have said this was the death of the confederacy. >> you will be able to see

c-span's american history tour of the civil war starting tonight at 8:00 eastern. more from booktv with hillary clinton on her memoir. ben shapiro and grand -- glenn greenwald. is all tonight starting at 8:00 eastern on the c-span networks. some of the highlights for this weekend on c-span. tonight, a history tour looking at the civil war. saturday at 6:30 p.m. eastern, "the communicators." commentator,ical author, and former presidential candidate pat buchanan on c-span2. saturday at 10:00 p.m. eastern, the weekly standard, and sunday morning, we tour the literary sites of casper, wyoming. on c-span3 tonight, the negro

league's kansas city monarchs. saturday at 6:00 p.m. eastern, the depiction of slavery in movies. sunday on real america at 4:00 p.m., an interview with herbert hoover. let us know what you think about the programs you're watching. call us at the number on your screen, or e-mail us. conversation.n like us on facebook, follow us on twitter. a quick reminder that live remarks from missouri governor jay nixon coming up, addressing the recent shooting of the black teen in ferguson, missouri. eastern onrt at noon c-span. earlier this week, texas governor rick perry stopped by the iowa state fair to take part in the des moines register political event. he touched on the role of the government, the economy, education, and innovation in the private and public sectors.

[indistinct conversations] >> good morning. i am carol hunter, politics editor of the "des moines register." our next speaker is governor rick perry of texas. [applause] now, governor perry is a republican.

he was a state representative in texas. he was the agricultural commissioner. he was lieutenant governor, then became the governor in 2000. that makes him the longest-serving governor in texas history. [applause] let's remember a little bit ourselves walks etiquette, and exercise our iowa civility. let our speaker have his say. governor perry, welcome back to iowa, and welcome back to the des moines register soapbox. [applause] carol, thank you. it is an honor to be back here. it is a relief to be out of the texas heat. on your little devices, it is probably approaching 90 something degrees in most of the places in texas right now. it was awfully nice to get up this morning in the beautiful iowa weather. we have been here since

saturday, kind of going up and down the byways and highways. good-looking corn crop. my former friends tell me it is as is good-looking but not bringing enough money in. those of us that are up on the farm know that that is the way that that this goes when you have a bumper crop, the price is down. when you have a drought, the price is way up here. we can understand that in texas as we have a drug going on and cap prices are through the roof. last three-plus days traveling across the state talking about why i think it's important for the people of iowa . you have a very unique , from they in time standpoint of where america is and how iowa can play a very important role in the trajectory that this country goes in.

i think we all agree that our economy could be better, that washington does a lot of things that they are not very good at and actually are not even enumerated in the constitution. many of you know that i am a big fan of not only the constitution but the 10th amendment in the the of rights that says federal government, by that constitution, is limited in the things it should be engaged in. those powers are enumerated. everything else is for the states and/or the individuals. i am a big believer in that. i think the competition that gets created between those now 50 laboratories of innovation are what makes america really powerful and strong. i can attest to the fact that getting terry branstad back in as the governor of iowa has made

the state more competitive. [applause] i can attest to the fact that incrediblyd this energetic lieutenant general you have, kim reynolds, art out there making states like texas have to look around and say, how are we going to up our game? we are pretty good and economic development in texas, pretty good at putting policies in place, but what i have shared with these men and women running for your senate -- i visited with bryan schmidt at an event that he had. had an event that i was participating in. crystal bronze. last night i was with jeremy davis. i talked to each one of them about the concept of making your state even more competitive than it is today, to put tax policies

into place that has the burden on those of you who work and risk your capital to create the jobs that in turn create the wealth, to have a regulatory climate that is fair and predictable. i assure you, nothing throws cold water on a project more than if you put a substantial amount of capital into a project, you might be building a facility and halfway through a change the rules or regulations, and then that has a way to really tan it down the doozy as an to invest. you need to have a legal system that does not allow for over suing. and in the fourth part of that foundation is to have public schools that are accountable because what that says is -- you are building this big project out here. they are building over a million square feet.

they did not come in here if they did not feel the workforce was going to be available in the state. so that tells you you're public schools are headed in the right direction. you have one of the highest graduation rates in america. that is the kind of message that corporate america, if you will, for that matter, a small mom-and-pop is ms., they want to things, a tax regulation and a skilled workforce. if you want to put iowa on a more steep trajectory up, in my opinion, you allow those men and women that believe in having those tax policies as light as they can, regulatory burden that is stable and predictable, a legal system that does not allow for over suing, and accountable public schools. put those in place and what you will have is this state going up to some of the very rarefied

air, one of the most competitive states in the nation. when iowa becomes that competitive, what you see is surrounding states feel compelled to be more competitive. startll see illinois putting policies in place to make that state be more competitive. mentionedon this, i that for you or individuals running for the senate. they all happen to be republicans. that is the team i play for. but there is an important message here. you give terry branstad and that house that already has those principles and policies instilled in it, to help in the senate and make that seven a republican body, too. that is what happened in my home state. became across the board republican.

the house, senate, lieutenant governor, speaker. all of those individuals were republicans. for the first time since back in the 1870's we had the most sweeping tort reform in the nation -- >> we will leave this to go to missouri to hear remarks from governor jay nixon. hello, can you hear me now? i can talk loud. the initialshed overnight security briefing. whont to thank those folks we have been with over the last 20 hours, we have made progress, work continues to ensure the safety and freedom of people to assemble and respect their views while respecting property. i want to thank law enforcement for their work last night and today. moving forward, our goal is to make sure we keep the peace

while these investigations continue and justice is served. develop a couple days ago, we worked on a number of things. one of the things i did was to make sure that we would get security in a situation here where folks felt secure and willing and able to express their opinions on these important investigations about this horrific tragedy were carried out. in that sense, i ordered the kernel of the highway patrol to begin planning and execution of that. let me turn it over to the kernel who will go over a few matters for the daily briefing. thank you, governor, and thank you for your leadership. the governor called me and said he wanted us to take control of the security situation. i needed to pick a commander for the job. we have a lot of resources we can bring to the table and i can

assure you the best resource the highway patrol has is its personnel. the best person i can bring to the situation in ferguson was captain ron johnson. you have seen a tremendous job he has done in the community over the evening. [applause] [no audio]

>> ok we are back on. as i was saying, when i had to consider a commander for this assignment, i had to consider the resources of the highway patrol. our best resource are our people and the best resource i could bring to the situation was captain ron johnson. i want to introduce him so that he can update you on the events from last night and what is going on today. captain johnson. [applause] >> good afternoon. if you cannot hear me, i will step out into the crowd a little bit. if the crowd cannot hear me, i will step out there and they can tell you what i say. knowhere to make sure they what we are talking about.

>> the people of our community need to hear what i'm saying. they have questions and i invited them here. ors is not about ron johnson about our patrol or st. louis county or city, it's about the people that live in our community. when this day is over, a lot of people will be gone. the people behind you will be there and i will be here. last night was a great night. a great night. there were no calls for service, we did not deploy tear gas. we did not have any roadblocks. we did not make any arrests. it was a good night.

people were talking. people were inspiring each other, getting their voice out, and we were communicating better, and they were communicating better with us. we have many leaders and activists out there yesterday that were hopping to keep the road open, informing the crowd. that is what i expect to continue throughout this event. our department, along with st. louis county, st. louis city had a great night. myself and achieve went down yesterday and walked and shook hands and talked to people and promised that we would continue -- communicate better and would give answers to their needs and we will continue to do that each and every night. you will see me walking down there. the first thing i did this morning before i came here and got everything from the officers here at the command post, i went down there so that i could get a briefing from the people living in the community so that i could

come back and have a proper conversation here at the command post. >> [inaudible] >> i think the release of the name is what was requested by the community and they have gotten it. i have not seen the video. i was watching the news this morning when i heard it came out. it would be hard for me to comment on that. >> [inaudible] i can tell you that today i will meet with the chief of ferguson and talk about how that was related, tried to get a copy or be able to analyze the packet they have. this afternoon, i will be walking back down to the quick trip and we'll talk to people there and explain what i see and some of the questions that may have been unclear in the presentation this morning. i will try to make those clear. i can tell you, our task here is

to ensure the safety of the citizens of ferguson, the health of the businesses in ferguson, but also to ensure the people of ferguson have their voice and their right to speech and their right to get together maintained. >> [inaudible] any concern about security? >> i have not spoken to chief tom jackson. of anything he has in place. [inaudible]

[applause] >> i have not seen that. i guarantee, i will look at that packet. i will look at that. that is why i am down there to get this information. >> [inaudible] like we have talked before, i will talk about yesterday. yesterday we handled it just right. we shook hands and hugged and we will talk about last night and move forward today. what happened last night is what is going to happen here forward. >> [inaudible] >> no there is not. i talked to the chief last night.

you can see there are officers here hand-in-hand. no there is not. >> [inaudible] >> i cannot tell you the timing. i saw it on the news this morning along with everyone else. >> [inaudible] >> i cannot answer that. that may be a question for chief jackson. >> [inaudible] >> as far as related information on the investigation, we are not -- let me answer the question. the governor test us to provide security.

he wants to make sure people in ferguson are safe in that they have a right to protest and speak their mind. that is what he has tasked us to do and that is why we are here. >> [inaudible] me outerday, you saw there talking, communicating, understanding and respecting. that is our task. that is what this uniform is about. law enforcement is about respect and service. i cannot speak about the incident. i was not there. it would be unfair to speak about something i don't know about. what i know about is what i will speak to, questions that i can

answer. i promise you that. i will continue to do that. >> [inaudible] >> i would have liked to have been consulted. >> [inaudible] >> were you here last night? bunch of smiles and conversations. that is what you will see from me. >> [inaudible]

>> i can tell you that is not the case. you and i are meeting each other for the worst time. there will be a serious conversation when i leave here. when you see me tonight, you will get the tone of my conversation will change.

i can also tell you that in our anger, we have to make sure we do not burn down our own house, that we do not bang on the building. we can stand on the sidewalk and talk about our issues and what we want and need, and the conversation that needs to happen. we can make that happen. what i do not want is to go down and burn our own neighborhood. that does not solve issues. that hurts the community. >> [inaudible] >> you bring up a fine point and

we may need to talk to the school district and offer that we will come in, if i need to come in and talk and give them confidence and let them know that i am just like their parents. i went to the same school that they went to. we will reach out to the school districts and percentiles and superintendents and if they need us to come by to speak to the children, we will do that. >> [inaudible] >> i guarantee it will be a conversation.

it will not be a conversation i have over the phone. >> [inaudible] >> i agree this is not a black-and-white issue. .e all have sons and daughters we do need to communicate better. you saw what communication did yesterday. the governor talked about old wounds. this is an old wound. says time to stop that and it is closed for good. >> [inaudible]

>> this release came from the ferguson police department and chief tom jackson. how are you going to make your own community feel safe around here again? [inaudible] >> yesterday we saw what it should be the release of what it could be. we saw what it will be. >> [inaudible] >> every patrol car is equipped

with a camera. i believe in the cameras. >> [inaudible] people still feel confused. they do not know what is happening. they are getting cynical and angry. you have to break through the circle of violence. you want to have safe communities here and there must be a step taken by the police make people feel safe. it is your duty to protect the people. >> i agree and agencies are moving toward cameras. whether they are body cameras or car cameras, i think they are important. my job the same way if i'm on a camera or not. having a camera does not change the way i perform my job. >> [inaudible]

outstanding law enforcement officers in our state, black and white, male and female. are we perfect? no, we are not herein but i have a son and a daughter and i want them to walk the streets with safety. our intent is to make the state safe, to stand strong and protect all of our citizens. our intent means nothing if those are your feelings. that means we need to do a better job. whenever we walk away from this and these cameras are gone, this

is our opportunity to show you that you can trust us. , anotheromething wrong police officer will come up and say you are wrong. we need something different. i told you earlier today that i thought information could have been given out in a different way. i could have said, i would have done at the same way. i am not telling you that. we are going to have a conversation. the highway patrol men that are here are outstanding officers. st. louis county has an outstanding department. if i have an issue at my home, i will call st. louis county because i trust them. we know this is not a perfect world. you said you have a barbershop. you know that every barbershop is not good. that is the kind of the way of the world. when you go home and you see your kids -- when i got home last night my daughter sent you this. were you scared? i said a little bit.

remember i want you to when jesus asked peter to walk with him. when peter got scared, jesus picked him up and said have faith. i am telling you today, we need to be just like peter. but hewe are scared, will pick us up and he will pick this community up. [applause] >> [inaudible] what is the plan security wise tonight to make sure it does not get out of hand? >> you are telling me what social media is telling you. i want to see what the people tell me. >> [inaudible] have you noticed a change in the protesters moved since the pictures were released? >> it is unclear.

there is a change in attitude. first of all, it's important to note the specific responsibility of the highway patrol on the ground by captain johnson. they are doing an outstanding job and we will continue to be here in the community. say that nothing should deter figuring out high and why -- how and why michael brown was killed. which thet the task colonel was given and he assigns responsibilities, but there are a lot of steps between now and when justice is served and there will be a lot of other bounces along the way and there will be tension at various times. >> is there any way to expedite the process? >> you have parallel processes going on.

local department and justice. those have to be accurate and clear, they need to be thorough, and before conclusions are reached, they need to be complete. i know -- i have said certain things have come out sooner than they did, but that is not the point. the point is where we are standing right now. rl that were not out yesterday, but that is not the full picture of anything. those are some facts that came out. i'm not saying that they are not important or relevant and we cannot forget, they are pieces of information. >> [inaudible] do you think the case has been mismanaged? ,> the focal point remains figuring out how and why michael brown was killed, and to get justice as appropriate in that situation. appropriatehe outpouring of