program -- encourage the student to stop by student services, and anybody can help you to get one of those two programs. the single stock core nature in the back row, she may be able to help you. also, in the idea, he is our hero in congress. jared huffman is really leading the way on that. >> the next question i have -- she mentioned she has $15,000 in and is the age of 22 working to pay it off. my first question is, are you worried about that, increasing the debt, and the crescent from from the question audience, student loans, what can you do to help former students whose student loans have fallen into the fault due

to the poor economy during this downturn? do you worry about increasing the amount? >> of course. i am always worried about it. sometimes, i have nightmares about it, which i shouldn't, but it is something that i'm trying to put a dollar in a piggy bank every day just to make sure that i can at least put $50 towards that or at least towards the interest that is accumulating. it is definitely something that is worrying me. i hope to get through it as soon as i can. >> i just want to say that loan forgiveness is one part of how we need to respond to this staggering student debt issue. she is facing a worrisome amount , if you but imagine want to go on through college and med school and become a physician, and we desperately need more primary care

physicians, the amount of debt involved. we are going to have to look at the types of public service and work that we want people to be able to afford to do. we want teachers to be able to afford to have a good standard of living and not be crippled with student debt. we want a lot more doctors. all sorts of- all places. >> in the middle class jumpstart, john tierney in the house and elizabeth warren in the senate -- this is a bill that would allow kids to refinance your road -- your loans. ,e mentioned it in his comments that particular bill. let meould pass that -- say this, if it is any source of encouragement -- across the issue., this is a big

any optimistic entrepreneurial do. and theght parents of these children who are trying to help their kids and then are trying to help their parents in an atmosphere where 24 states, the governors ,ave not extended medicaid ,arents in nursing homes college loans at the other, parents in the middle, economic stability, and we can do something about it. something to me is bubbling right here. i was told and taught to invest in myself. i encourage student loans, as well. is there not a greater question here? think the investment is not

necessarily a bad thing. it is when students graduate and come out to an economy that has no jobs for them. what do we do with that? if college is the way out, and then once you get out, then the jobs don't exist, where is the responsibility for growing that? the three legs of the stool our jobs and growth, investing in education, and when women succeed, america succeeds. on the jobs piece, there is something very directly we can and in some cases have done. as soon as the president became president, we passed the recovery act, which created or saved 3.5 million jobs. not enough. we are needing to do more. there has been a obstruction on doing more on his agenda, and

that is something we have to debate in this election. two very specific things we say -- right now under the current ratio in the congress, if you send jobs overseas, you get a tax break for it. reverse of that. give the tax break to the company that is keeping jobs in america. number two, build the infrastructure in america. dollars inllions of the deficit for mass transit and water projects and broadband and infrastructure for the future. these are jobs immediately to

build the infrastructure. our formula calls for build america bonds, pay for by foring tax loopholes subsidies to big oil and the like. none of this increases the deficit. we also have one other one in their -- there. it addresses income inequality. company -- your are a company, and you want to ,ay more than $1 million a year you can do so, but the taxpayer is not going to subsidize it. you aren't getting a tax deduction for that. if you want to, you can qualify for something more by giving a raise to your employees who have made the success of your company possible.

you are absolutely right. we have a moral imperative to jobs, jobs, good paying and that is why lifting the minimum wage not only helps those families, but that money come if you are making minimum wage, you are going to spend it right away. you inject demand into the economy, creating other jobs. the minimum wage increase is a big stimulus to the economy, in addition to being in assistance to those families. wow.mmon sense governance, .hat's awesome leader pelosi, you mentioned the pell grants and that republicans want to freeze the pal grants for 10 years. the question is, what are the prospects for redirecting pell grants away from poor performing, for profit colleges

to public universities, including community colleges? [applause] i don't mean to be taught in all the time. [laughter] >> she is really good. not have noticed, but when we passed the affordable care act, which addresses economic security for america's families, financial security for families, when we passed that, at the same time, there was one bill that had two provisions. one was the affordable care act. the other one was the higher education bill. it had three parts. one of them was the heaviest investment we could make an community colleges, recognizing the important role that community colleges play in our economy and in the lives of the american people. the second piece was pell grants , to increase the number of pell

as increasingl the amount from 4000 to over 5000. reduce --point was to at that time, we were cutting in half the interest on the stafford loans, the college loans. now we want to take it down even further to where the interest rates are in the market. were an grants important part of that. whatever it is used, whether a community college, a for-profit institution are not, we have to make sure that those power grants are used very well and that we have to subject all elements of users of power grants to that scrutiny. in some cases, you see the for-profits who have abused that, and so we have to look into that. first of all, it is about the education of that person and

about taxpayer dollars that we do not want to be squandering. i want to tell you this story -- promise you won't tell anybody -- we were having this debate three years ago right about now in washington on the budget. we had to find $200 billion of so that we would then agree on where we go from here. was agreeing to these proposals that republicans were putting forth. they put it out there, and then they would walk away. that is neither here nor there. my point is the following -- i said to them, we could save $38 billion if we cut the subsidies to big oil. big oil gets $38 billion in subsidies as an incentive to drill for a time in which they will profit $1 trillion. they do not need the $38 billion

as an incentive. trillion.$1 i said to the republicans, let's take this $38 billion, a good billion,ards our $200 and they said, almost with one voice, why would we do that? why would we do that when you can save the same amount of money by cutting $38 billion out of pell grants? that is the challenge that jared huffman has on the budget committee. [laughter] >> i certainly agree with everything that was just said, and we have that accountability role we need to play with hell grants. i think the broader student at picture, student that these for-profit institutions

has relied on a business model that relies on folks racking up lots of debt to pay their tuition and then turning them loose without success. president obama deserves a lot of credit for beginning to propose something meaningful ways to address this, including something that is a little controversial, but a ranking system, some transparency and accountability and a way to inform students so that they can look when they get these .rochures from these companies how many folks actually after getting the grants and their loans found jobs? we can make more informed choices for our students, as well. [applause] the just wanted to bring importance of pell grants home to the college of marion. aboutear, we administer $13.5 million of aid to students and about $6.4 million is held grants.- pell county, wemaryland

have one of the largest educational equity gaps in the state. to what extent do you believe this is a function of educational racism, funding, or poor leadership? what do you think is the best way to close this gap? >> i guess my name is on that question. i think probably a combination of all three things. in this community, there are people that don't recognize that people who are different contribute something different to the society. we found that davidson middle so -- davidson middle school, where we have program improvement six or seven years ago, when we put students together in heterogeneous classes, kids of

all ability levels, all ethnicities, every student in the school, their test scores rose. when you put a group of diverse kids together, everyone grows. point index for students in california. it was all about rec rising that we all bring something to the table and that we all have something to offer. learnk a lot for us to how to be allies for people who are not ourselves. there are issues around race and ethnicity, but poverty lays a bigger piece. poverty is a much larger piece in a person's ethnicity. it is poverty that is what we find to be the most detrimental to children's education.

i think the leadership in the community is continuing to try to bring people together, but it goes back to maybe what happens in the house. i'm not going to talk to you right now, and i will let you know when i am. the thing that happens in our community, as well. >> talking about modeling behavior. [applause] thank you very much, mike. this question i think is vital. i want to piggyback it with something mr. reyes said. as we speak, ferguson, missouri is under a state of emergency in its ninth day of civil unrest. michael brown was to start college in a few weeks. as educators, do we need to teach our young men of color how to walk in this world safely as much as we teach them how to access college?

and further to the point, we have a crisis on our border with mexico. we have young students here who are fearful of progressing academically because they are not american. how do we do this thing that we need to do? i would start by saying we absolutely have an obligation to have these conversations with our students, and i'm confident that many of our faculty are having these conversations with our students. we have an obligation as an educational in solution to bring the community together like we are today to have conversations, to better understand the issues and understand how we can ultimately have a positive impact in our students, that they are more informed and better anywhere and more equipped to deal with the society we are preparing them for. i would just say, i hope our response to these situations is not that we need to teach young

black men how to walk down the street. that is not the response that is needed. clearly, there is a wake-up call that tells us we are nowhere close to a post-racial america. we have an ongoing challenge of teaching police and others how to do a better job of working with communities, of responding to specific circumstances, and there is just a lot of racism and racial tension left in this country, not just in ferguson, missouri, the washington, d.c. the kind of vitriol and personal animus that we have seen presented to this president of the united states is unlike anything any of us could have imagined when he was sworn in in january of 2009. we've got a lot of work to do. thank you. on the subject of the border,

they have spoken so beautifully about ferguson. one of my biggest problems with on with, and i've been , emanuel cleaver from missouri, and the reverend who was also in congress -- they were giving us their account of what was happening there. that theyo something didn't want the outside to exploit. they wanted to find justice. people were coming there, agitators, anarchists, that is not what is coming out of our community. piece --ke our own peace. as far as the police are concerned, to leave michael brown for four hours unattended so -- i just don't

even understand that. i want to go to the border, and that is because i was late. concerninge phone the subject of ferguson. the president spoke today once again very beautifully on the subject. andhe subject of the border the dreamers, many of whom may , the last twoools bills we passed in the congress of the united states ignored the comprehensive immigration reform , butpassed in the senate instead, to very destructive pieces of legislation. we extended a hand of friendship to the speaker to say, let's find a path. we know it will be a compromise. instead, they went further to the right. take my word for it. the national catholic conference

of bishops said that the legislation that they passed that day on the floor dishonored america. that is how bad the legislation was to read -- was. overturning the president's initiative on the dream act, putting up barriers to the president doing anything. they had a bill. it was terrible. we said, come our way and we can compromise. instead, they went the other way. they've dishonored america. i'm not painting everyone with the same brush, but the fact is that the weight is happening in washington, d.c. is not the way that any republican that i know would take pride in. how is really something -- can they talk about all of the religious fervor and how they respect the dignity and worth of every person, including themselves, and treat people in a way that is almost subhuman?

it really is a remarkable thing. what my superintendent was saying about respecting other important,s so because it's not that women are better than men or one of us is better than the other. the beauty is in the mix. that is when you get the best result and the most legitimate result. in terms of ferguson or in terms of the border, if we just all remember what we profess, and that is that every person has we would have a better result. we have plenty of work to do in that regard. republicans and democrats in the senate passed the bill, the good bill, not great. [laughter] went to ase, it just really -- the bishops -- it

dishonors america. >> thank you. we have a lot of work to do. obviously, our representatives in the house and senate need your help. our leaders have come before you today, but you are leaders, as well, in your communities, your neighborhoods. thated to pass legislation moves forward the middle class, that makes education affordable, that gives honor to all people who live in this country. thank you so much for coming. your questions will all be answered by the congressman's staff. if you have any more, they have offered that. i'm not making it up. if you have more, please distribute them to a member of the congressman's staff. i would like to thank our guests

today. thank you so much. lance arius, off to kcal. -- to cal. [applause] wang june.avid thank you sir. represented jared huffman. [applause] and our very empathetic and compassionate leader, nancy pelosi, thank you so much. [applause] and our moderator dana king. [applause]

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talks about politics and state issues next on "newsmakers." then a discussion about how advancements in technology can help counter cyber security threats. >> indiana governor mike pence, thank you for being with us. we have robert costa of the "washington post" and read epstein with "the wall street journal." >> you have been mentioned as a contender.16 give me an assessment of how you see their emerging republican field. the republican party, as we

look into this falls collection, has a very deep bench. i'm always very humbled to be mentioned among a long list of very accomplished men and women in our party but i think are part of a rising generation of leadership. you know i served 12 years on capitol hill. i have served about a year and a half as the governor in the state of indiana. thatmore sure than ever what will save our country will come from our state capitals. republican governors across the country, i hope more republican-led states are really leading the way with the kinds of results that are demonstrating that when you click these commonsense republican principles into practice, it all works. i'm very optimistic about the future. i'm ou