enforcement loves this because, it is now their opportunity in the municipality to get revenue. my son was convicted -- there was no offer of dropping charges after a year of probation, none of that. -- as a public defender true public defender that we paid $1100 for. i believe in training for law enforcement people, he'd the folks away from each other for 24, 72 hours. let the situation subside and there are three sides to every story. host: eric in california, good morning. you're on the air. caller: hello. i would like to point out that

the victim is the wife here, supposedly. and by taking away his livelihood, half of that money is her money. any previous dating experience where there was violence, if this is a one-time ,hing or something went wrong maybe counseling or intervention or find out what happened. not that it excuses anything what so we have a full understanding. that was eric and california. we keep getting your thoughts. we have 15 minutes left to do so. news, on capitol hill, congress is readying a continual resolution to keep the government funded past september 30 when the fiscal year ends in the new fiscal year ends.

it continues through current spending levels and addresses the ebola outbreak and extends -import bank due june 30, 2015. there's a lot of debate about that. the house is expected to debate the resolution on thursday. news, sean sullivan has the peace. representative lost to the iraq ulton.teran seth mo becoming just the fourth sitting member of congress to fall in a primary this year. the wall street journal has this headline this morning. senatets hope or the control of the senate have dimmed. gop on aign with the

range of issues and our souring over president obama. you have the new york times editorial board waiting unscented it -- president obama's decision and they call it another row can promise from the white house. repeatedly made the case for the moral emergency of immigration now, now he is saying definitely by new year's he will get around to making good on his promise. this time he really means it. here's what mr. obama said in june about the costs of failing to act on immigration. it has meant fewer resources to strengthen our borders. free tont more business game the system by hiring undocumented workers, which punishes businesses that play by the rules, and drives down wages for hard working americans.

that was all true then, and will remain so as long as mr. obama and congress fail to close the gap tween oratory and courage. your screen said wall street journal, this is the new york times editorial this morning. weighing in on that. ahead had a president obama's speech tonight on isis, look at the wall street journal, nbc poll. those thatof responded to the poll said it is in the nation's interest to confront the group known as isis orisil which is set in syria northern iraq. more people are coming to believe the u.s. should play a more active role on the world stage.

20% said they should be limited airstrikes, and an additional 34% said they should use airstrikes and troops. that latest poll from the wall street journal, nbc today. gilbert in tulsa oklahoma. understand why we are upset about the violence in that elevator. this country was founded on violence, there is nothing surprising to me when it comes to violence in this country. have we forgotten how the europeans came to this country, on asked for and uninvited. whenever you run across any person from outside of europe, s a european, he or she has taken that land through violence. now we are complaining about

someone in a violent thing such as football beating up his what ever he was -- whatever she was at the time. of violence is as american as apple pie. we are training our children to be violence. it is our culture. look at the policeman that beat a black woman down on the theway, he beat her down to ground, unarmed and she was screaming for help and he beat her down. that is not the first time he has been a woman here he was very comfortable doing it. -- i guaranteek his wife suffer the same thing as that woman. diane, go ahead. caller: i am the survivor and so

is my daughter. i was in an abusive marriage for 17 years. neurotic.sychotic he was a prescription drug addict. before 1992, we called the police, they would come to your house, they would try to help, but they could not because they did not see the violence, even though i had a busted nose, teeth knocked out. a glass at my feet and they were cut up. he physically, mentally, verbally, sexually abused me and my daughter. i listen to these people like the last guy, violence is this an violence as that. unless you have walked in a person's shoes and understand what they go through is a brainwashing game. it starts off really slow.

getthey manipulate you and control of you. you do not have any money. you have no place to go. shelter and he a threatened to kill me and my daughter. he would have somebody watch us. he had the house bug. the phones and the electrical box. we could not make calls. he took the distributor cap off of my 70's -- 1976 dodge aspen. we could not drive anywhere. we have been through a lot. we are survivors. help.lice did try to there was nothing we could do. finally, we got out. we got out of that situation. host: how did you get out? man i am married to today helped us get out of the situation.

i did not have a restraining order. the other thing that is more strict, where he could not come five feet towards my daughter and me. start all over. it has nothing to do with money. my ask was a millionaire. i did not even know it. his sister got the money. he'd died. as much money as i could for my dollar and that -- for my daughter and i had it in my divorce papers. she had a good attorney and she got everything. host: and all-too-familiar pattern is the headline. on the jump page is this -- it is about why a woman would stay. several experts in domestic violence question that much was unknown about the rice

case. they added that economic reliance was the leading predictor of whether a woman would leave her abuser. difficult tobly extricate yourself when you're financially dependent. it goes on to say -- about any criminal charges ray rice would have faced, he was indicted in march on an assault charge that carried a potential jail sentence of three to five years. he was put in a pretrial intervention program and this could be expunged from his record if he stays clean for the next year. we are getting your thoughts this morning on ray rice, nfl, domestic violence in this country. let me show you some primary results. this is "the new york times."

set staged primaries for pivotal fall. scott brown above, who won the primary yesterday. the democrat incumbent in new hampshire facing scott brown. the new york times reports she did not wait patiently for the outcome, even before the polls closed, her staff released excerpts from her victory speech for her own primary contest, in which she ran unopposed. a crony of brown as wall street and big oil companies, she echoed campaign themes used successfully by senator elizabeth moran, democrat of massachusetts, will be mr. brown in 2012. , the ferguson

missouri police situation. there was hearing on capitol hill about that. a democrat held this hearing before a subcommittee that she controlled. the headline is that the cops have few strings attached. we cover the hearing. if you missed it, go to our website. new philadelphia, ohio. what are your thoughts? caller: i am amazed at some of the comments. this woman gets beat up by a man and it is acceptable and they seem to think it is normal. i am more embarrassed that senator gillibrand wrote a book and she claimed sexual harassment and she will not name the senators. people.enabling those

she wants other women to stand up for their rights, she is not going to name the creeps in the senate that are abusing her. her: did you see interview? caller: i cannot understand it. congress -- the whole government is above the law. this woman says she was abused, sexually abused or whatever and she is going to take it. it is time to get rid of some of these people. thank you for listening. caller: this man is being terrible. women andgainst domestic violence has been horrible for a long time.

guns aree who carry some of the biggest abusers of domestic violence. i wonder how many -- i would like to know how many policemen have actually shot their wives or killed their wives or hurt their wives. we do not hear anything about it. this football player, because he makes a lot of money and since it happened, i am glad the conversation is -- that we are beginning to have the conversation. host: on roger goodell, some saying that the commissioner of the nfl is a weak leader, especially considering he makes $44 million a year. this is in "the wall street journal." commissionerrd nfl in the past half century and has

seen a sharp increase in lean revenue. leaguetaken pride as disciplinarian. in other sports, disciplinary matters goes to an arbitrator. -- forkesman for rebel incident tookhe place, said the casino gave all tapes to the atlantic city police department, the atlantic county prosecutor's office, the division of gaming enforcement and mr. rice's lawyer. team halted its fact-finding mission in march after was unsuccessful in getting the video. that was a mistake on our part. post,"n "the washington job security not in serious danger, the nfl has reinserted itself as a powerhouse.

companies line up to align themselves with sponsors and annual revenues, which during roger goodell's first year had been slightly more than six ilion -- 6 billion. now a $9 billion pot, far more than any other u.s. sports league. this makes owners think twice whot ousting roger goodell, pocketed 44.2 million dollars in salaries, bonuses, benefits, and deferred payments in 2012. cnbc has a piece about who roger goodell is. father gained his national prominence as a republican u.s. senator in the late 1960's when he challenged richard nixon on the vietnam

war. he started in national politics as a u.s. representative from new york. he left the house in 1968, when he replaced robert f kennedy, who had been assassinated. we will keep the conversation going. coming up next, we will talk with one more. moore. survivor ofa domestic violence. later on, we will talk with trent franks, a republican of arizona, about the threat of a form oft attack in the an electrical grid blackout. we will be right back. ♪ >> we are excited to announce it is launch week for the 11th documentaryntcam

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we have to see the video to understand that this was , againstagainst women a woman. reports were that she was rendered unconscious. that was enough for me. i did not need the visual to understand how devastating this injury was to her. have done whatd any ray rice case? much: i am baffled by so discussion, this great indictment of the nfl, the ravens team, i am wondering, as a legislator, what happened to law enforcement here? what happened? she was arrested instead of being taken to the hospital? if ray rice had been hit on a football field and rendered unconscious for two minutes, he

would have been airlifted off of the field. the best medical facility in the region and given an mri immediately. i have not heard any reports that there was any medical treatment given to janay. i find that appalling. were the advocates? where was the da? where was the court system? my understanding, greta, is that basically, ray rice does not have to face any further law enforcement activities. talking about what the ravens should have done, with the nfl should have done, and he is not going to experience any legal consequences for his behavior. host: what should have happened? what are the laws on the books?

guest: i can tell you that he was arrested. she was arrested as well. they left and went home. think what should've happened, there should have been a real assessment about the danger that she was in to have been rendered unconscious. there was a great deal of anger and rage and i would be concerned about them leaving and going home together. someone did spend the night in jail. of a how prevalent situation is domestic violence? prevalent.s very it has decreased substantially by two thirds since we passed the violence against women act. the violence against women act has provided resources to womentes, shelter for escaping from abusers.

it has brought together the best practices of law enforcement, the district attorneys, court system, even the medical profession. when women show up at a hospital, they are routinely there areher or not suspicious injuries. the violence against women act is the 20th anniversary today. it has raised the consciousness although threend women a day die at the hand of an abuser. host: 64% reduction in domestic violence since the violence against women act was passed in

19 94. today's the 20th anniversary. you were the lead sponsor of the reauthorization of that act. what was added to the law under the reauthorization? guest: it was difficult to get it over the finish line, but we added protections in for native qmerican women, and for lgbt women. reauthorization, a native american woman did not have the protection on tribal lands against a nontribal member. we have heard reports of stories of how men would drag native women back onto tribal land to beat them, rape them, knowing they could do it with no consequence. women had been victims notiolence and they were

taken seriously. often they were not admitted to lgbtqrs because of the status. we remedy that with the reauthorization. we work hard to enhance opportunities for immigrant women who are often held hostage reallyr status and looked at enhancing protections for young women, college-age reauthorization. a time when women are strictly vulnerable. host: a usa today editorial says major institutions like the nfl have a role to play in the message that the send. themessage they send is

message they send to society. they should get serious about this type of issue. --enator of connecticut riceor blumenthal said ray firing is not enough and that maybe the nfl should get some special scrutiny from congress on this. what message does it send it to a young boy who might aspire to be an nfl player, to know that the consequences for smoking a joint is more consequential than rendering your wife or girlfriend unconscious? that workplaces, not just the nfl, ought to have some code of conduct for their employees. especially something as visible

as the nfl. should be congress give nfl extra scrutiny on this? i am not sure that congress ought to do anything. seennk the nfl -- we have it is very capable of creating a code of conduct that is ofmiserate with the status the organization, with the kinds of salaries that these men render. if they can have a policy , theying use of drugs know what the local laws are. i think they ought to respect the laws on domestic violence. he should not have been playing a game the day after rendering his wife unconscious. do anot think we need to congressional eye for them to realize that is just tone deaf.

host: you think companies should be able to fire an employee if they have committed domestic violence? guest: there are many hot to a franchise like the nfl. if you are married and you have a health insurance plan, presumably, your wife and children would be covered by that plan. it will cost you greater premiums, there is a cost to a company for having a violent employee. noticecently, i got a from my insurance company saying we will no longer in sure you if you have a pit bull in your house. if you have a pit bull on the job, that would bring consequence to the company.

host: caller: hi, how are you this morning. hank you for taking my call host: good morning. caller: i think that your -- host: you got to turn the tv down. just listen to me through your phone. caller: okay. i'm sorry. host: there we go. problem. caller: i think that from the nception of the first incident hat's reported, that something eally needs to be done at that juncture. because most of the time the women who are affected by this -- i know this firsthand. grew up in the house hold, there was nobody there to help us. the thing is that the police to called, the person went jail. then the person went released. then it happens all over again.

the person that's being abused, something is given to them where they're not made to feel guilty, nothing is going to change. it is a self-esteem and self-respect issue for the individual. nothing short or nothing long about that. so if that person lacks those themselves, s about they have an issue. host: can i ask, what would abused self-esteem? it -- caller: that has to come from within. a family come from structure. not everybody has that in place, unfortunately. the thing is we are who we are matter what we do in this life. you either feel good about yourself or you don't. been a victim of this kind of a house hold as a child, my confronter which turned out to be my father. e used to beat my mother constantly. and i faced him until one of the aser relatives, his brother,

a matter of fact, challenged him, whether or not i was going to have him arrested. i n it was my turn, challenged my own father. after that, things changed. not on behalf of my mother, it was on behalf of me and my uncle. it has to start from the beginning. there's just too much of it. i see it every day. okay. patricia?ris -- congresswoman? guest: i was not at all the way that jada rice reacted from the very beginning, victim.him as the she took responsibility for it happening. i'm sorry about my role in making this happen. -- then her latest host: posting on instagram? guest: yeah. instagram about how everyone is victimizing her husband. for one thing, according to all news reports, she -- she's a stay at home mom.

she's economically dependent upon him. and this is -- this is the story of a victim. this i don't think that is something that patricia that is necessarily innate. that the role of the violence against women act and he advocacy services that are provided really can help her esteem issueshose o get to a place where she can stand up for herself. you know, she's done everything she -- she has a real stake at keeping her family together. it won't workr -- to take llow him to -- the victim stance. she is the victim. that til he acknowledges he did wrong. and that she is in fact the victim, and he gets the right

counseling and the right, you know, righting i'm afraid that their family may not last. host: is there something more? congress? the government can do? s there more needed in the victim -- the -- the violence against women's act? need well, we always more resources. always -- there are there's tremendously more need than there are resources. and, you know, the -- the izations occur best practices of law advocates are rought to bear on what -- what the next reauthorization ought to include. need to be able to their men deal with economic imprisonments, show to speak. mean, there ought to be

transitional housing, lower-cost retraining for women. because so many women stay in the -- ships because of because of the economic impact. obviously has access to more income than do other -- other women. at whatever k point, you know, if this relationship is not going to ought to enforcement be there to make sure she has to kind of economic freedom so that she doesn't have to stay in this relationship. you know, i would venture to risky to think it's say this, patricia, but i would time is is not the first he hit her. host: carol on twitters said i poor, tand the extremely abused spouse who feels as if way out.o but one who is married to a rich man could leave. thelaura says, is it really

nfl's responsibility to deal with crime? kelly in rome, georgia, republican caller. hi, kelly. caller: hey, thank you so much for taking my call. yes. agree a lot with what your guest is saying. has upset me is miss rice is definitely a victim. i do not want to revictimize her again. most problem is that women do tend to stay with -- the -- with with on -- based on financial reasons. my problem is what's going on in media and everything is that continue to look at her as --

pathetic person lied.-- she she -- about what happened in there. she knew the video. have resources. she could be a strong woman now to come out and stand up. she married him. no, i'm not ve said oing to marry you right now until you go through intense counseling. she could have had a big platform. she has his child. access to a million dollar player that would have supported her and her child. host: kelly, paul in pennsylvania, democratic caller.

your thoughts. greta.: good morning ms. host: good morning. gwenn. good morning miss guest: hi. aller: i would like to commend you for your persistence on this issue. it needs to be addressed. t's a major problem in this country that people tend to overlook, so to speak. i have a childhood friend who relationship for many years, many -- she had a circle warnednds, a family that relationship she was in. of ended up being the victim a murder suicide. it was an eight-hour standoff police. scene.just an ugly it's something that people need to wake up to. i commend you for your

ctions on this so -- host: okay, congresswoman? this unfortunately, happens too often. known -- personally known several women who have lost their lives. and like i say, you know, the perpetrator doesn't wake up one day and kill you. signs that there are friends and relatives that see all the time. i think it's extremely important people who are around these women to warn them. it doesn't go from zero to murder. not in one day. ith regard to jay in a's behavior, i do think that she doesn't necessarily see she has resources available to her. and she feels not married to he man until the day after was indicted. of legal s a lot

finagling to be able to have her now-husband's money. so i do think that she just of thousands of women stay in relationships ecause of certain economic dependency. but it is incumbent upon friends advocate ves and the community to try to support so that they can see their way through. would hope the best for their relationship. perhaps there are some sort of occur.ntions that can wakeup callis a huge to mr. rice. it is possible that he could eal with his anger in a professional way. just janabe more than

signing off on the intervention to get his job back. something he will take seriously. this piece is on the website. instead of asking women why they why theyshould ask men hit. he #whyistayed is well intentioned but a good answer to a bad question. and she writes that it's a good impulse, but a bad question. why did you leave is to domestic what is why were you out so late is to rain. it puts the focus on the victim's choice to stay rather than the abuser's choice to hit her. julia, portland, democratic caller. hi, julia? > hip, i was just basically wanting to call in because i am domestic violence. the video, i was really taken back, it brought back a lot of memories.

so i -- i don't know why i stayed for as long as i did, but honestly say that this young woman needs to get out of that relationship. and this man needs counseling. i ause it does -- i mean, didn't care. when i seen the video, i didn't care how much money he had. this young woman and her life. host: can i ask you, what you,rces were available to legally, police? advocates? uest: the police were all -- the police were always very kind. remove him always from the house. e would always break in in the middle of the night. scaring my children. my husband,- he was being very abusive. blaming.cusing and and just not being absent pretty much and accusing. just, you know, always

just a really violent type of behavior. and that's what i've seen in the elevator for this young woman. host: did you know about the -- violence against women act? caller: i am aware of it. i just recently decided to get my -- literally, just leave the person because it -- ou know, where the person couldn't contact me or call me or anything. hides a you know, love multitude of faults. i don't care, give the money up. get safe for you and your children, you know? i mean that's basically what it down to. it doesn't come down to money or this man's career. to this man literally violated this woman. host: congresswoman? it's so true. you know? but it's so much easier said

than done. you know, i was so appalled that they they were arrested, both went home. i would have been terrified to get in the ack and same bed with this man who just unconscious. an attempt sort of to resuscitate her, revive her, just drug her out of the elevator. at risk now. he's lost his job. so i'm very, very concerned safety now. his se to the extent that career is on hold or perhaps ruined.

uest: they didn't have a quote/unquote policy. and part of what enables domestic violence to the shame waited is and the silence. you know? ad jada not been in that elevator, had she been rendered unconscious at home, no one would even know about it. abusers, k, you know, rapists, really rely on women coming forward. in order to be able to continue it.

-- this is a silent crime. host: based on that point. edwin on twitter wants to know what's your evidence, act, the oman that the violence against women act has reduced violence. reported show 23% are and less go to court. guest: well, my evidence is numbers of women that are rescued from situations they called hotlines, they -- they get out of relationships. get job training. there are men who are renewed and restore their families that are saved. and to the extent that women have options and alternatives, they -- they don't allow it. what might have been five,

of accepting an abusive relationship, women get out of it right away. home, north in carolina. tom, independent caller. caller: yes, ma'am. host: good morning, tom. caller: good morning. i was -- i served ten years as a olice officer and i went through a number of domestic violence calls. case, it seems that very, very low self-esteem and the man controls way.n every problem is even though we separate them, the to owing days, she refuses sign a complaint form and the handcuffed. is the reason ray rice married her assure you he did not have the protection of spousal privilege. can'tg can be said -- she be compelled to say anything against him now.

thing is prior bad acts? ray rice t the same that was ten years ago who was on trial for -- was a criminal accomplice in a murder for hire? host: we -- we don't know that. tom.n't know that, husband s point about and wife privilege, congresswoman -- guest: i -- you know, they had been together since 2008. that passionate moment that so many women look asks d to when the man them to marry them, it occurred the day after he was indicted. i'm just saying -- host: but legally, is that a comes up that often for women of domestic violence, compelled y can't be to testify against -- guest: yeah, that is a -- that protection for the men. what we've been saying all greta, is that jada has

like the typical victim. and she's been protecting him, protecting his career. trying to prevent him from enduring the legal consequences behavior. and not looking at herself. protection. even her medical health. host: is that a common occurrence of women with domestic violence? guest: verier, very common. this is not an outliar. the pattern for -- for women. and the -- the police officer is correct. know, maybe we do need some lays and this is not necessarily congressional act, but in state need some s, we do laws where, you know, under some circumstances, this is not sign off for women to

on a complaint in order for them to take legal action. rendered n you're unconscious. like i said before -- if ray rice were lying out there on the unconscious for two woulds, trust me, the nfl have put all of their resources getting him medical treatment. why is it that she can be dragged out of the elevator and off to jail. and the d.a. said you didn't complain. go on home now. if that's the policy. guest: boy. host: what about the idea of recanting. you were just sort of talking about that? think it's extremely important to know that victims

of domestic violence are victims. there are predictable with regards to not reporting. i was outraged when jillenbrand wrote a book talking about how she was a victim of sexism. prove dy jumped on her, it. who was it? who was it? this is why women don't report. don't report because people immediately blame them. immediately indict them. you know, question, what their involvement was. jana was drug out of the employees he hotel

thought, oh, she's drunk. assumed the ely worst of her. i think i heard kim gandy say, know, just this morning that have this tant to discussion discussion. this is the biggest discussion we've had about domestic violence. hope it's going to be an opportunity for america to look at this case and realize this is for the -- for the predicament that women find themselves in. are economically dependent. a narrative n into of blaming themselves, trying to rescue the perpetrator. perpetrator not taking responsibility. i think is occasion, one of the reasons people have upset about the nfl and the ravens is because they resources l of these

around him. lawyers and statements. minor at occasion. jana?ho was there for not even a person to make sure was okay after having been rendered unconscious. marlboro, maryland. ann is watching us there. democratic caller. hi, ann. caller: hi. i'm glad to get in. i'm an elderly lady, probably than miss moore, however, there is another side of domestic violence. when women deliberately have they out of wedlock, and pursue these men because they see a potential or a career, and it's all of this money. they do it for money. court system is skewed toward the woman where no atter what's happening to the man's health or whatever, then hey demand certain amount of money and this is the -- he has

to take care of her, even though to marry the other. i understand from the tabloids that this -- there was a fight outside of the elevator. and they were boxing each other of the elevator. i understand they were both drunk. so the falling down in the elevator didn't have to be with the strike. be with the strike and the alcohol. she spat in his face and ran up in his face. you can see that on the video as him.gh to hit so there's more than one side to this domestic violence. host: congresswoman? guest: well, you know, there's more than one side to every story. her.ould not are hit i have two sons, they had better not hit any woman. know? unless she's ready to take his life or something. you know? he's a football player. of so i don't know what kind

boxing she was doing that threatened him. no excuse to beat a woman. no excuse. that youe bad behavior talked about, you know, she got regnant on purpose, you know, tried to trap him into a marriage. he didn't want to marry her. may not be may or true. he should not have punched her lights out. south bernice, columbia, carolina. independent caller. hi, bernice? columbia, south carolina is the number one state in the nation for domestic for the and counted ten most murders of women of their usbands, their fiances, their boyfriends. we are subjected to so much iolence even after calling the police and the investigators, i begged them, i called the military hospitals. called everyone. i had a -- i have a career. nurse.registered but i also got really, really

sick. the hen someone knew about case, knew about the rape charges. even submit it to the solicitor's office. i had a restraining order. i did everything i could. i called help lines; i called -- i called i.d. no one would help me. you know what they're telling me? don't talk. be quiet. don't say anything. things are going to change. it's not going to change. i'm not from here. i'm here based on military. i supported my husband from him being an e-6 to a commander when a nurse. and i worked, i was beat up. from iraq.e back post-traumatic stress. i stayed with him. i prayed. life.in fear of my i have two beautiful children -- i have a son at west point. have a daughter in college on

a scholarship. beautiful children. i have a career. i am independent. i got out, ut when another abusive relationship with the city, the county, the nvestigator who has been talking to me the whole time, who knew about it. but when i protected myself when you tonight lling because no one would take his house from me. he would say this. is going to take my bars from me. no one is going to help me. because public defender i have no money. but my disability. i had to switch apartments. is scared to death. my son is saying thank god i'm west point because they're wonderful up there. host: what help did you get military? aller: i got no help from the military. i gottcalled the v.a. medical center. tried to speak to the case manager.

she would not talk to me. i said don't you remember me? me as a woman. i said i was a nurse. i'm on disability now. i'm a person. wouldn't talk to me. his appointment didn't come four months later host: take the issue of omestic violence within the military. guest: i would tell her to call representative clyburn's office, you know, off line, and share story with him. here we are, a situation where a the ful institution like military can wrap their resources around the man. and ignore the woman. speaks to other observations we made this morning that it's not that easy walk away. people do blame the woman, the wonl. and this is the reason the violence against women act on advocates is so

important so that there will be resources wrapped around the to try to help her, tell her story. to tell her story. to make sure she homeless become because she's made her decision to leave her abuser. this is really a classic example of someone who took a stand but is paying a high price for it. >> christina, last one here. oklahoma city, democratic caller. christine. >> hi. domestic i think that violence is just egregious. see how a woman -- host: you're breaking up a little bit. that.you repeat you don't understand how a woman could -- aller: i don't understand how a woman could associate love and violence together. not my point.

we have a situation in oklahoma police officers is in jail sexually k because he a -- he sexually abused eight women, african-american women. not heard this on the media. i have not heard this story. it's all over oklahoma news. hen you have a police officer here in california that held woman to a pole. the reason we can't get our arms is ped around this issue because we keep fragmenting it. we talk about domestic violence other types ofan violence. host: we'll leave that point there. congresswoman? uest: i hear what she's saying. she's speaking to -- to a larger issue of a rights of passage for violent.- to be it's really important, i think,

to denounce violence as well. my son was telling me a story of who came in, you know, to play football -- watch a football game with a bunch of in and said, oh, sorry i'm late. ut i had to deal with my old lady. i had to basically i had to put her in check, you know? beat her up. and the host of the party looked at him and said, really? out of my house. leave. right now. that if you have a police department, a blue code military or your buddies that you watch football with or have ootball with, if you a culture of men who think that right of passage to, any now, to bed, you know, number of women and love them to rape them or or to beat them.

if they think that makes you manly or macho, this is the kind culture that i -- i would and re men to denounce reverse. her for making that point. host: i want to ask you, the president will speak tonight isis.the threat of are you willing to support an syria d air strike into to combat this threat of isis? you that that would take quite a bit of discussion and debate. would, in fact, be a declaration of war. and i don't know that that's what the president is going to ask for. host: reports are that the president doesn't think he needs to ask for it. guest: right now, he has the authorization to do air strikes in iraq. -- from the previous authorization. so if he doesn't need to act, then i can't speculate that he's going to talk about syria.

because he does not have authorization to do that. come to uld have to congress for that. that. more to come on thank you for your time this morning. and the discussion. great discussion. vawa andanniversary of we'll put ourselves out of business some day. ost: we'll talk about a terrorist attack in form of an electrical grid blackout. and the stop of the university of nebraska lincoln. talk with the interim president issues.gher education all that right that have news update from c-span radio. it's 8:33 a.m. eastern time. well, secretary of state john for the in baghdad first high-level u.s. meeting minister.s new prime in a short visit today, the ecretary will urge iraqi prime minister to take quick steps to

ease sectarian tensions in the majority nation. the secretary will offer help in dominated e sunni islamic state militancy that's overrun parts of northern iraq syria. the secretary's visit falls on the eve of a u.s. arab nation the islamicefeating state militants. isis will be the focus of the to want and remarks the associated press reports that ground troops are not part of the plan. obama plans to present a range of military and options in the public through his speech. he'll ask congress to authorize arming moderate syrian opposition forces and do things on his own as well, like possible air strikes against the syria as well as iraq. meanwhile, an independent member senate is voicing uneasiness with the obama a more ration's push to fierce confrontation with

militants while criticizing little. for doing too maine's angus king who organized caucus democratic speaking earlier said he's uncomfortable with the expansion presidential authority to, in his words, take military action nywhere in the world, close quote. he understands political concerns but argues that's no reason for congress not to be heard on the issue. again, president oh what is set to tell the nation tonight what teps he plans to take next against the islamic militants. live coverage at 9:00 p.m. time on c-span radio and c-span.org.s, watch a guilty plea is expected when a is the-year-oldwoman appears in court. she's axuzed of trying to help syria.itant group in shannon connolly was arrested in pril trying to board a flight she hoped would get her to syria. if convicted, she could face up in federal prison and a $250,000 fine.

today a homeland subcommittee from customs and border protection and state department officials about the domestic isis poses to the united states.

spots. aw later a major pulse that interferes with a telegraph all world.e is true, we became a victim of our own communication. in july of 2012, there was one missed the earth by two weeks that could have been catastrophic to our society. the second one, of course, is man made.

electromagnetic pulse. that's primarily by high pulse e electromagnetic generated from the nuclear war creates a massive rush ionized particles to the earth and overloads equipment and power lines. -- it's a subdivision of the man made. imei.s the that's where we create electromagnetic interference generators ents or of that sort. host: is the man-made option about, the nuclear type of attack on our electrical rid, what evidence do you have that that is a real threat. making that threat? >> the reality is that you to deal with potentials here. there are two components to every threat. that's intent and capacity.

certainly there are people out there that have the intent to hurt america in the worst possible way. the question is, do they have the capacity. and there are certainly people who have capacity to hurt americans in the worst possible way. do they have s, the intent? f you look at russia, they would have the capacity to hit us with emp attacks that would the hope is that they don't have the intent. ith the group like isis, they have the intent. the hope is that we can prevent them from having capacity that like iran might get nuclear war heads right now. at odds with are each other. and the truth is that if jihad ahold of nuclear weapons, then the implications are profound. needs to be done. guest: we need to harden our grid. bills in the congress. one is there's a good chance we'll be hearing from as early as next week. it's called a critical

infrastructure protection act. essentially, it insinuates into our national planning like we do e emp n-- or ricanes orator tornadoes or earthquakes. if somethingo know potentially dangerous is coming and secondly to prepare for it in every way we can. we're trying to recover from it. creates a major research and sort of development effort to develop things to the grid. is doing it in the first place. host: is the house going to this?n guest: the committee will mark this up probably next week. that's the plan. but you know things are vying

for the time. the second bill is the shield important bill. it sets a national standard for ow hard our grids should be or how impervious it should be and we tes a commitment that would use hardware-based solutions to make it hardened. foot the bill ld for hardening our grid? these eral government or companies? guest: the truth is to fix the grid in terms of being able to case scenario. it's not made to have a comprehensive fix and make sure cell phones and radios work, but to make sure we have a supply of electricity, don't have that catastrophic situation. it's not an expensive situation year for the average rate payer. we can set the grid -- the consumer would pay. guest: the consumer would pay. would be so minimal to each consumer it's negligible. host: how much does it cost in

general? hat's the price tag for hardening the grid. guest: $3 billion in the next we can harden the grid where we wouldn't have to catastrophic kind of rolling blackout. that's the main concern i have. much more ve fix is expensive than that. if you start building in to the tated controls or all of our electronics, hardening as we go forward, it's not expensive. 10% to the average electronic component of any system. main thing right now is that our grid -- our major gsus and like our transformers are the things i'm worried about. they are destroyed or damaged irreparably, we don't have the industrial capability to recover quickly. host: get to calls. elizabeth is up first. morristown, pennsylvania, democratic caller. hi, elizabeth. you to know that

we really appreciate that the ork that he's doing on this, mainly the representatives, all they do is bicker. they talk against each other or use the president -- come down on the president. he's actually working for something that's going to help the american people. so refreshing.t so i wanted to call and thank you. quickly is that the -- but tenat cents here and there for gas, food, this, that, and the other starts to add up. so i would encourage him to get some of aybe the -- and then some come from some come from government so that we all are sharing the piece of it. okay? thank you very much? host: congressman? guest: i appreciate the tone and disposition of the call. it's nice to get someone who's being kind once in a while.

the last point she makes a good one. and the cost of it is something utilities helps the in the long run because if they are hardened, effectively, then run their they can grid or their grid assets or components at a higher capacity. pays for the n hardening. so it's not something that we should look at as a cost burden, it really isn't a big burden. it's not free. we'll buy insurance on our homes thinking they would burn, but we buy insurance. this is an insurance policy. an enemy out there aware of the vulnerability, to vulnerability is to invite attack. there's something that's long overdue. of the major decision makers finally coming together on this. we've been working together on a long time.

the emp position came out and services he armed committee in 2000. i believe it's 2004. to us again n since. i am very grateful for their work. to now it's beginning finally manifest and hopefully t will be significant policy changes to mitigate the problem. host: pikesville, maryland, lewis, independent caller. guest: thank you for taking my call. coast-to-coast the other night, they announced massive cme a ejection in the next few days. i noticed 10 minutes ago, my tv, i can only get "to be announced." i click hit and i could not get any index of the feature programs. down the line, all i see is "to be announced." if we have a mass happening.ow nd secondly if you harden the

military and government grids and don't harden the civilian the , doesn't it give government the upper hand? call.you for taking my >> i think in terms of predicting the ejections, we ability to do that in a way that would give us long-term warning. abilities to observe the sun and see what it's doing and see where there might be growing sun spots. it's something we have to do impeericly, really. years the general consensus we have a major carrington type or approaching ejection.of intensity the hope is it doesn't hit the the or somehow that earth's atmosphere is polarized in such a way that it's so much of the earth.e in terms of the government

wanting to get the upper hand ere, i wish they would pay attention to the vulnerability itself. i think it would take care of it. would be the greater problem. i would not be concerned about to take nment plotting down the civilian grid while maintaining their own capability civilian grid is taken down, there would be enough chaos to go around. trent e talking to franks, republican of arizona. of legislation dealing with hardening the nation's civil electrical grid. be a threat from another country, man made, or from a terrorist group, or a natural as the congressman was just talking about that. chris next in brooklyn, new york. a republican caller, hi, chris. caller: hi, good morning. you, congressman for taking the call today. republican. i would love to see that in the republican type solutions. solutions, in state private ownership.

there's a way to fund this through the marketplace by dividends and capital the tax rate. to do it if the utility is in the state. that's the way to fund it rate.ut having a national i just say this, hawaii's problems and long islands florida's problems and alaska's problems are different. providing eople energy in different ways. i would like to see more federalism in this. taking my call. guest: i would like to tell the complete 100% agreement. be ink these efforts should as much as possible in the rivate sector to use the competitive free market to come up with the best solutions. that's certainly my effort. shield act with the to try to get it past for a long time. e've had it bottled up in committee.

the primary premise is to look come uprivate sector to with both the standard of protection that we need and the the type of equipment. it's agnostic from what types it ays, it says you come up with the answer. if it's a good answer, that's what we go with. republican.market i believe very much if the free market has a better answer all of the time, then the approach.st but the challenge -- we've had that bill really bottled up for time.g when the critical infrastructure protection act, cipra came to open up re able the field of discussion. because the homeland security committee. importantly, the chairman of the rules committee, sessions, joined as an bill. co-sponsor of this it made all of the difference in the world. respected around congress. he's a senior member. he's led the republican party in ways.different so his involvement in this has

in all of the difference the world. we're starting to see significant movement. i'm hopeful. host: karen, chester, pennsylvania pav, democratic caller. thank you for c-span. epresentative, thank you for doing. no disrespect intended, but people in america needs to wake up. happens, we will not have audio. utility for many years. i know what it looks like. if this happens, we have no no water.gas, food. they have no idea what you're talking about and what the severity of it would be. host: let's talk about that. guest: i appreciate the the caller's heart. because it's easy to pass this ff for something a few overwrought citizens are concerned about. true.not this is a very grave concern for

our country. again her scenario of not having the ability to move food and water and electricity, all things that the electric infrastructure supports is a inaccurate one. there are about 16 what we label as major critical infrastructures. and the electric grid is vital of them.14 or 15 it's one of the things that we engineered themselves. it's the 1600s, i'm not sure. 90% london fire -- it burned of london. it wasn't that they didn't know about fire at the time. began to buildey their houses too close and become a little too arrogant bout what scenarios could potentially ensue.

this fire caught them by surprise. hey had themselves in vulnerability like we had on a totally different scale. it was devastating. is the price tag for a blackout. how long might a blackout last? example i , the only could give you in recent days had.ne in quebec that we because of a mass ejection. i believe, in the billions of dollars, i think nine or ten hours of a blackout. the reality is this is far less expensive to fix than it is to try to remedy. host: natural or man made or ck on the civilian lectrical grid in this country could last hours? weeks? months? guest: that's the danger. if we do have a worst case

scenario. i want to choose my words here. the effort we impede to fix this is for somehow for people to think we're overstating it. the truth is in a worst case a major if we have effect impulse of that magnitude, it could see our irreparably for months or years. and i don't even know how to what that means for our society given the way we agregrian.o longer greatest of outlooks. >> what's the outlook? matter of priorities, understanding, i'm encouraged see in re starting to the united states congress i hink the cipra if it's given a chance will pass. we had a act here part of a much version. but it passed the house

unanimously. it went to the senate. the senators have different ways of looking at things every once in a while. that's the part that stopped the bill. but i'm hopeful that there are that i don't want to have to describe or understand lockedeps the shield act senate.e host: hear from danny next in florida. republican caller. for : thank you so much attacking this topic. because i know when i talk to it, they look at me as though i'm an alien or alarmist.n but i live here in florida, i know one of your other callers problems here in florida regarding our electric companies and how they operate. like to see more federal control here of that. question is, with

washington actually in a grid ock, how are we going to take care of our grid? and get these bills passed? host: i believe -- guest: that's a good question. there's no pun include there had wa being grid locked. one encouragement i have is this seems to be largely bipartisan. democrat support for this for legislation like it in the past. i don't think partisanship will issue. i do hope the white house will respond effectively to this. i don't want to take this in partisan direction here. but i am dumbfounded that the hite house has not been more forthcoming this area. they talk some about the natural but they talk almost never bout the potential of an enemy ex-mroilting this vulnerability, especially in the 911 world that lived in. and in recent events of the

world, terrorists don't have to to a nuclear war head damage our grid. i don't want to get into too much detail, but it's been in -- in the open now in the could t that terrorists attack our grid with kinetic bombs, major weaponry if done coordinated right could be very, very serious. host: tomorrow, the 13th 11,iversary of the september 2001 terrorist attacks. talking about this here in the washington journal tomorrow as obama's speechnt that he will be giving to want, :00 p.m. eastern time on the threat posed by isis and how he plans to combat that threat. congressman franks. you want to hear from the president? >> well, you know, i'm trying so here.hough be bipartisan this is an area where i think he president has failed the country in the most profound way. if the president had listened

even to the warnings of george ush, george bush said, you know, if we withdrew from iraq -- he said this is not an exact quote. station andnge this others to look at his words. if he withdrew before the it was time to do so, then we would face horrific mass killings. only have to uld see american troops return. and confront an enemy that was more dangerous. that sounds almost prophetic as here.t's happened a few members, 55 members and i, bout three months ago before isis had done all of the damage that they're now guilty of doing, wrote a letter to the telling him how this s this was because administration's known about isis for years. they put out reports showing the damage they've done trying to gain financial support. it's like a corporate report. astonishing, i think it's annual. makes a difference.

but this should not have caught the administration by surprise. -- you know there isn't there is a moment in the life of almost every problem when it's be seen and still addressed.gh to be and when isis first started to come to iraq, it would have to keep them e out. but this president simply ignored this situation. crisis.ace a it appears to me -- we'll see, plans topears to me he follow the george bush model hat he criticized so vociferously of putting together a major coalition and going after the bad guys which is do.ctly what we should he owes george bush an apology of the most profound nature. host: president obama does? guest: absolutely. chaney met behind closed doors. he's talking about the danger of

isolationism. in "the new man york times" talks about the conversation that the former ice president had with the republicans. he said vice president cheney id not discuss the fact that many isis leaders wither former iraqi military officers who were mprisoned by the american troops nor did he dwell on the sectarian divisions and blood american nce the 2003 invasion. the crux of the argument centered not on mr. obama but isolationist voices on the rise of the party in the 2016 presidential campaign. lot of convoluted meaning there. vice president discounting the significance -- the vice resident in my judgment is correct in trying to suggest we're in 're in -- if isolationist mode that we are in danger in this country. i believe that. trotsky that said

you may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you. and so the president -- the vice suggest and criticize isolation. i believe that. that they are going through something different is hysterical. hat's always the blame game we see the friends on the left doing, blaming america -- it wasn't americans that were at the airplanes that hit those buildings. and this is something that comes ideology that feels transsen dentally justified in innocent people to further their religious goals. eradicated n if not from the country and human devastating e a danger and heart ache for a long time to come. c-span radio telling our

audience moments ago before we president will not ask for boots on the ground. do you agree with that decision? guest: i hear that phrase all time. i wonder what the special operators and advisors are going to be wearing. to be wearing ballet shoes? the notion is that the boots on have some seems to special meaning to the president. withdrewhe fact that he precipitously that advanced isis into iraq. that beggars my ability to articulate within the confines of the english language. yet, this president will along, skate across it and act like he's got nothing o do with it in the world in the public policy choices. we're facing isis now because president vacillated and ignored reality and was so busy criticize george bush for dealing with a real problem that he -- he overlooked it himself.

i think that somehow this wants us to take a vacation from history and that's want to do ins to his answer to everything is just another speech. matter isng to really if he will have the courage and the commitment to do what's dismantlenow to -- to and destroy isis. ecause if he doesn't, america could face very serious concerns and problems in the future. pennsylvania, n independent caller. thanks for hanging on the line. go ahead. caller: hi, good morning, greta, good morning representative french. >> good morning, sir. caller: i vice president been on here for quite a while. was, i spoke i with a young fellow from washington, d.c. i don't know what department he worked in. subject came up about istrolling the weather which going to be an issue next year for subsidizing the running for campaigns. but my point is today,

representative, there is a book brought it up before, written by dr. nicholas beggage, activist physician from alaska. is a alaska, there tation up there and also in puerto rico that has the capability of doing exactly what you're talking about. this technology was invented the and modified at tesla technology. it was modified in the 80s. of star wars t that the -- that the ronald about.had talked and atlantic power technology a subsidiary of invented refinery that these products. 10 patents came off of it. can modify weather. that was my subject with the young fella. but modify weather.

host: have the congressman weigh in. uest: i can't speak to the weather modification aspect of it. i can suggest to you that you correct in that there's significant research and emp lopment in the area of generation.

generation. to get nt units trying possession of nuclear weapons nuclear storage facilities.

this happened but the military and responsible commanders from navy and the army and the intervenewere able to and retake the possessions of the nuclear weapons which, you of custody and all sorts of security-type stuff. but these types of stories were floating around the internet. you please comment on what senator graham meant when he aid if we did not go to war with syria, there would be possibly a nuclear attack on charleston, south carolina. guest: lindsey graham is a very close and valued friend of mine. i don't know his exact words. so i have to inject my interpretation. point, syria was building plant that could have allowed them to have plutonium

production capability. replica, ost an exact a mirror image, i should say, as in pyongyang in nock north korea. continue wed that to to be built, perhaps syria could ave regained a nuclear weapons capability at some point. thank god the israelis, that plant was destroyed. e should be grateful to our ally, israel, that had the courage to do that. the did a great service to whole world. but what senator graham is terroristsf we allow ponsoring nations or nations that are willing to use a blackmail or terrorism to effect their goals, that at some point we could have a in one of our american cities, and i think million. on that.s correct host: sherry from arkansas,

independent caller. caller: good morning. host: good morning. caller: i live out here in rural southern arkansas. and i have been such.ing up on emps and oh boy is it scary from what i read. so we have started to prepare. i'm wondering, ask the congressman, does the -- do you in the government have any ind of publication that we could order or anything out we could get our hands on to educate the american potential o the devastation of something like this? host: yeah, okay? congressman? is there? guest: there have been 11 major government studies now, on the g the commission electromagnetic pulse that have in depth died this that civilians can order and

look out. i would suggest you take a look of the xecutive summary emp commission report. very act judgment rate. i was going to suggest people contact the heritage foundation, they've done extensive study and policy.rity they have excellent studies on it. the american people are more esponsive to this issue than government officials have been. has been b a major the drum, especially in military at first. the military is doing a great job. they're doing what they should do to harden the assets. i applaud them for it. purview over the civilian grid. hey need it badly for their missions.

so they're kind of in a difficult situation. to the people are responding this. the reasons we sometimes had trouble wrapping our minds in a long time ago, someone said to deal with this comprehensively, you would have harden every element of our electric infrastructure, every tr, refrigerator, even, every car. those are all important considerations. if we had to do that comprehensively, it's a job big for us. rick maintain oure likt grid, the ability to have electricity, we can deal with inconveniences. if we have to do without electricity the way we have society, it's a devastating thing for us. i have 6-year-old twins that me than i could possibly express. and people wonder are you creating some sort of underground facility or -- and

or trying to beready to recover survive something like this? the answer is no because i see a worse case scenario so bad that think that all of my time should be on -- should be spent on preventing it. that's what we're trying to. o host: cdog on twitter said representative franks, it's time for a smart grid. waste 30% of our electricity, europe wastes 6%. i'll get joseph and then you can respond. host: ' republican caller and last. you can respond to both. guest: okay. caller: i have a question. here fighting with isis and they're want to come to s, iraq has their money and they're ready to revalue the urrency, why does mr. obama keep telling them to hold off, hold off. if thai get their own power, help fight can themselves.

overpricedy is it was and overinflated. to revalue or reconstitute the raqi currency is not going to have a tremendously significant impact on their economy or their ability to fight. that's one thing. related to the previous question about a smart grid, our smart problems.ne of the i'm all for the smart grid because it -- we have -- we do have smart grid technology. and it allows us to share load throughout the different grid in the country where we have a number of different power grid companies. nd it's very important that we do have that. but the problem is is that smart the grid to grated such an extent if there's a outage, one system can affect the other. it's not just a minor effect. one can throw load to another.

and we can take out the entire grid now. is wet we've done, again, outsmarted ourselves. nd i would just say that ultimately, this is a -- in some ways, what the israelis call a attractive problem. it has great serious ramifications. it's a tremendous threat. but it's fairly straightforward to address.ive and i believe it's time we get on with doing that. is paying white house attention. oth to isis and to the things that relate to our civilian infrastructure. nd that we work together to make sure that our children get to continue to walk in the light of liberty like we have. host: congressman trent franks, arizona, thank you, sir, appreciate your time this morning. guest: thank you.

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but c-span 3 especially this weekend, has been so wonderful. >> continue to let us know what you think about the programs 202-626-3400.ng, e-mail us at comments@c-span.org. or send us a tweet at c-span #comments. join the conversation. follow us facebook, on twitter. washington journal continueses. ost: this week, we kicked off the monthlong series of interviews with the university presidents as part of our c-span bus's big 10 college tour. this morning, joining us on the at the campus of the university of nebraska in interim s the president, dr. james linder. thank you, sir, for being with us. begin with the size of the university of nebraska lincoln. and also the cost.

thank you, greta. it's a pleasure to be with you today. guest: i appreciate the fact at you're doing this service to educate the students and the public at large about the education.of higher the university of nebraska's system has four campuses, one of university of nebraska lincoln, which is a big 10 school. 15,000 students in the system. that represents record enrollment for us. the cost of an education in lincoln is about $8,000 a year, is lost in the big ten. of state tuition at $22,000 a year. how much financial aid is there available?

three quarters of students receive a grant or scholarship depending on what year they're in in education. host: the gallup did a poll in april. young adults cite college costs as their top money problem. wondering, and this is -- this has sparked the debate in our country. college worth it? how do you answer that question, dr. linder? guest: well, i think the university of nebraska regents the state legislature have had access and affordability more many riorities years, even before the recent costs.ions on and we believe nebraska, the it, the s worth opportunity to educate the next that tion of nebraskians go out, form companies, service have degrees to

support technology is essential growing technology and having an informed citizenry. are how many majors available at the university of nebraska. guest: wow. that's a stump the president sort of question. e have many colleges and many degree programs. some lead to a bs, graduate rograms and certificate programs. it exceeds 100 in total. nd that includes both on-line education as well as education campus.curs on you address the issue of job place m. after kids graduate, what's the getting a job? and how do you encourage or do pick courage kids to

majors, professions, that will get you a job when they graduate? guest: a lot of important questions that you ask there. i'll dissect that a bit. first of all, in terms of the college experience. we want our students to be aware of the fact that they should obtain some skill during college to a potential employer. now, that doesn't mean we want provide a technical education. e want to make sure that students first of all have the range of experiences that lead them to have a full and productive life. so that implies there to be good counseling for those students as well as opportunities for internships, working with companies, seeing what it's like workforce so they can develop the critical having skills, and experiences at other campuses or outside of the country in terms abroad.

host: "the boston globe" recently reported with this business leaders downbeat on workers' prospects. despite an improving economy and record corporate profits, skeptical aders are about their ability to compete abroad and downright pessimistic about the prospects of increasing pay or improving living conditions for american workers. report, they cite issues of higher education. challenges you see in higher education that impact our economy? guest: i think there are eluded challenges as you to. compact change in between the companies and the workforce. the companies are looking for important with technical skill. which is why there's so much dialogue about stem education. this year at ate

the university of nebraska lincoln to see an 8.6% increase enrollment of students in engineering programs. students are at realizing that having these skills is important because it is what employers are looking for. james linder to as the interim president of the university of nebraska lincoln s part of the big ten college tour. we kick that off this weekend. we will continue next week. here on ng series washington journal talking to university presidents about higher education issues. get your thoughts as well. we guided the lines by students, education -- educators, excuse me, and nebraska residents. 202-585-3880. parents, 202-585-3881. educators, 202-585-38882. and nebraska residents,

202-585-3883. an e-mail if you like. james linder is aboard our nebraska in lincoln, to talk about his university and issues of higher education. we'll begin with michael who's new jersey. michael, are you a former at the university of nebraska? caller: i want to comment on career resources providing for students. a lot of students in my xperience in the past felt as if their career service didn't offer them that much. you couple that with the fact they may not wholly be aware of all of the resources in addition to the fact that a lot lot ofents really lack a confidence in knowing themselves and how they belong in the workforce. has to do a lot of it with career resources. jobs after time college.

and factor in the fact of searching for jobs and careers part-time job. o, with that said, it's about time and of understanding themselves and themselves dence in afterwards guest: i agree with you completely. beingess as one goes from an interim student to graduating. for t can be enlightening students to have the opportunity individually or as a group walk nto a work place and feel the excitement of a team, say they're trying to bring a new product to market. their eyes to what the world will be after they graduate. we try to bring that experience our students. host: dr. linder, we want our viewers to call in. e've divided the lines by students, parents, educators, nebraska residents. nebraska residents, talk about outreach to the state of

nebraska and how much support, university of nebraska gets from the state? guest: the university of nebraska has always felt we have strong mission to educate the next generation of nebraska. the state is geographically very long. 500 miles. and so we often talk about a 500-mile campus. resources in every county in the state through our services, through telehealth, through teleeducation, and a variety of try to bring the university to every community. and we're very proud of that. we're humbled by actually the pportunity to shape our future in this state. host: you have an annual budget of $1.2 billion, endowment of

$1.3 billion. and alumni over 188,000. can you talk about those numbers what is the costs? how is the money spent? the budget is $1.2 billion. of that money, it's spent instruction.n there's also a strong outreach program in our service to vities through the state extension. and, of course, the research udget is substantial approaching $300 million in itself. e have been fortunate in the state of nebraska to enjoy solid upport from our state legislature. which has helped us keep tuition rates low. a very successful campaign through the university foundation to raise funds for student scholarships, ith campaign that just ended, created more than 1,000

different scholarship funds. s well as building the infrastructure that's supporting the university. we see a broad gap in the state nebraska working hard to support education. ost: aggie is next in castlewood, a parent, good morning, aggie. parent. yes, i'm a i wept back to school after i got laid off from work. nd got a degree -- an associates degree in engineering. and half my classes were classes for i really didn't need that degree, like history, p.e.c, and i want to go back and get a egree in engineering technologies. the first two classes inhave to take is u.s. history one and two. problem.hat's a big they ed at all colleges, all have classes in the degree programs that you don't need to do that job. rounded students

out of high school. want college, we well-trained students in that profession. i think it would drive the college costs down if they would get these classes that you don't need out of these degree programs. nd the colleges don't want to admit that. but that's half of the costs of classesiates degree was that i didn't need. for the degree. you could get the degrees in half the time. host: all right, dr. linder? severalthe caller makes good points. first of all, if you can get a lot of courses in high school, ou can shorten your college experience. here in nebraska, we operate hat's called the university of nebraska high school. and this provides university to students throughout the state that are basically dual credit. satisfying some other college requirements while they are in high school. the other important point that is the issue of

transferability. nce you've had certain courses in one educational experience, you should have systems that transfer e courses to to your next degree. programs here in nebraska between the different campuses, between the community our state and the university and we actually have are que program that we piloting reverse transfer of credit back to community colleges. did not complete the associates depp gree can use some of their university courses for that purpose. the more dialogue there is between educational institutions, the more efficient it is. and the more cost is reduced as you pointed out. host: you said earlier, $300 million for research at the university of nebraska lincoln. what is the university researching? what's the different areas? what's the main focus?

host an agricultural state, some of the focus is on how we resources andwater how you grow food with less water. we face a population crisis in world. we have more and more mouths that need though be fed. they need though be fed to ensure political stability in the world. so we have a strong initiative with water for food program. we have me innovation campus food, fuel, d on and water. and this is just a handful of ome of the programs that our faculty are working on. our ey ones given agriculture roots. host: and medically. of re a professor pathologist and microbiology there. this is a headline in "the washington post" this morning. u.s. lacks personnel trained to fight ebola. shortage will hamper the

military's efforts against the disease. "the the headline in washington post." a recent reuters story that says the third u.s. medical become infect in the ebola virus was wheeled on a gurney to the nebraska medical center in omaha for treatment. why the nebraska university hospital? guest: just for clarity. campuses, the university of nebraska medical center is based n omaha, no it no the university of nebraska lincoln. years worked ent hard at the medical center in omaha to address some of the posed by infectious agents. ago when therers was the sars outbreak, we developed a comprehensive biocontainment unit to provide care for patients who might be agents. by infectious

and the u.s. state department capacity at the university nebraska medical provide careked to for this physician. now that's been an important for our experience staff at the medical center. discussing ently with government official, the dc and others and how they learned for caring for the patient and biocontainment unit programs for health care providers around the better so they're prepared to deal with this type of infection. now.itical issue right host: another issue for many universities the athletic program. twitter wants to know how do you feel about college athletes forming a union nd being compensated for generating millions for the universities? nebraska iversity of lincoln has had very successful

athletic programs. i believe we had 23 different sports, representing womens and men's and 620 athletes. the atth athletic department is revenueficient from the that it generates. student ion about unionization and how money is spent is in the headlines. to focus on student athletes first being students. as students, we like to see they compensated with full scholarships and support of their expenses. some of the dialogue that's happening now to better is very hose students important. compensating students as if they were employees and unionization, that sides to the own student experience. host: a strong mission to educate. is that why the football coach

makes more than the top three teachers at every big university in the u.s.? guest: well, i think compensation of football coaches is very high. exists in a ersity marketplace. football coaches' salaries would be an interesting discussion. but not one i want to participate in. host: why not? you sound reluctant? that?in guest: i think that the any ion about capping a coach, an salary, ceo, is more of a conversation than we could take on this morning. we live in a marketplace. trying to talk to your

coaches at any school, you're competing for the coaches for coaches yment of the with other schools. that's what's driven the salaries to a level of where they are. guest: at the university of what is the oln, state of tenured professors. how many do you have? how does the process work? guest: at the university nebraska lincoln, the so-called density is about 60%. and the process at the is ersity nebraska lincoln that a faculty may enter a 10-year track. be the portfolio is going to assessed to determine whether that will be tenured or not. country and the medical center, all faculty profession's lth tract.

and sometime during their career, it could be three years, years, they may opt for a consideration for tenure. upper isn't the classic out of situation that you see in some tenure programs. ost: back to calls, bryan, texas william is watching us there. go ahead, william. i would like to ask mr. linder how the philosophy of those that are established 100 years ago has changed. originally organized to era, t the agricultural the agregarian society. how has that changed? is the change in the right direction? guest: the university of 1869ska was established in as a land grant institution. measures, we still

function as a land grant institution to provide for the al support agricultural efforts in nebraska. we have the institute for ag and natural resources that has many faculty that are working to better agricultural techniques throughout the state and throughout the world. this is part of the food, fuel, and water initiative that i mentioned earlier. the scope of the land grant institution has certainly increased. so in 1902, the medical center joined the system. so the activities have grown as increased.eds have but we still focus on the core e as one of missions at the university of nebraska lincoln. ing ary cull chufrl second showed the highest increase in enrollment this year. talking to the

president of university of nebraska lincoln as part of the tour.n college we kick that off this week. monthlong series and interviews friday.esidents on the bus will be at the university of iowa and we will alk with the president there, sally mason on friday. this morning, james linder c-span bus in lincoln, nebraska, charles in next. sioux city, ein a apartment will. go go ahead with your question or comment? caller: good morning. i have a question, two grandsons going to your university in the ag department. and i was just wondering why is to find ficult moneyrship or any kind of to go to school. if you don't do the right getting you end up none.

none. guest: the university of nebraska lincoln, there are a ide variety of need-based scholarships. the of l, students attend university with no tuition charge. relatede other academic scholarships depending on what field the student is in. scholarships nt re actually focused on the potential research a student might be interested in doing. a graduate ey're extensive we have support for students pursuing mappsers degrees or phd. degrees. get more money out of the out of state students. do these students get preferences? guest: in my experience, out of state students do not get preferences. to njoy bringing students nebraska to both diversify our

student body and to hopefully reate a student who will stay as an employee of a nebraska-based company. we would appreciate if if costs in students could be lower. but it wouldn't be fair to the of nebraska paying taxes to support the in state students. and, you know, look at students from outside of -- ska, to gers if diversify the student body. thecurrent year is probably most diverse student body we have relative to ethnic of theies in the history university. host: how many slots for foreign students? slot, we n terms of don't think that way. on evaluate students based academic activities. a pus of the university has

different number of foreign students. here are several thousand studying here. they come from doumentryes around the world. we have exchange programs with brazil, with china, with eastern europe. fascinating to walk cross the campus and see students from nebraska, natively, interacting with a come from t may have brazil. teaching them about our culture and learns about the culture from another country. they pay the full price of college tuition? nonresident rate. host: charles -- excuse me, bill in florida. good morning to you you. ear up next. ahead. >> yeah, good morning, bredty. to know if you have monsafnto tions with and what they're doing with all of the food and their 2ek and all that.

the university of nebraska lincoln has had a relationship with a variety of seeking to at are improve both crop yields and to develop crops that are resistant to pets. that includes the monsanto corporation. host: on twitter -- know, i think that, you he question is the use of revenue that comes from college ports, if i understand it universityand at the of nebraska, largely to support

the athletic programs. ut there's also some strong benefits to the academic mission example, iversity, for in our eat stadium of the football stadium, we have two activities.search one is the nebraska athletic at what ce and looks athletes might have and tries to optimize their performance. donees to research studies on gate disturbances, people problems have.al the center for biology and behave your is studying at ussions but looking developmental abnormalities in children. so it's not just the business. integrated to the academic experience and for the again i thletes, and get size students, they

valuable experiences. i had the pleasure of teaching former university nebraska football players when they were in medical school. who hese were individuals have learned time management. they've learned how important it is to get tasks done. they're very motivated. >> ost: the columbus dispatch reporting in june that big 10 chancellors and presidents have four major reforms for athletics, a four-year cholarship regardless of if an athlete is able to compete on a playing field, maintain a scholarship for a player even if leaves college early to pursue a professional career. provide improved consistent medical insurance for players an end sure athlete scholarships of r the full cost attendance as defined by the federal government. why do you think these reforms needed? do you think they're needed?

are needed.ink they they've led to the current of -- of how students are treated when they are athletes. they are very fair to the the nt and help assure chances of success in the rules in life. we want to make sure they have while ancial security they are in school so they can complete their degree program. ost: a few minutes to discuss higher education with dr. linder. big part of c-span bus's ten college tour. "the washington times" this morning with this story -- more for are saving college. the college savings plan network that the average college savings or prepaid tuition is unt known as a 529 plan now worth $20,671, almost double

what the accounts were worth in the dog days of the recession. william in st. paul, minnesota, a parent there. william, go ahead. caller: yeah, i want to touch on the question. nd it's kind of a two-part question concerning american citizenship versus financial aid. reason i'm asking is i and my wife, we barely make about $90,000 together. but my daughter is going to college this year. didn't qualify for any pell grants or scholarships or anything. why is itst wondering hat foreign students -- american citizenship a qualification on the pell grant an - are you required to be american citizen to get -- host: we'll leave it there? dr. linder? guest: i think the question was

are you required to be an a rican citizen to receive pell grant? and that's a question if it came my desk, i would call the director of financial aid and learn what the rules are. you an excellent answer right now. host: how much support and money does the university of from the federal government? guest: well, you would have to different categories to support that the university of nebraska gets from the federal government. guest: there are grants that eceive from the national institutes of health and financial situation. approacheswide, that over $420. moneys come from the university of nebraska and spent n research that benefits the faculty and the students were

involve in that research. financial aid dollars that come in to the university, counted as part of our budget, then those are distributed directly to the students, including the loans and pell grants. that's part of the aggregate budget of $1.2 billion that you mentioned earlier. money flowing through the university system. texas, a m in midland, parent. good morning to you, jim. caller: good morning. i've been to nebraska. state.e i've been in omaha. a beautiful city. i felt dr. leonard dodged the question earlier. you're getting a degree, you have to have history which gives you a lot of cost to your tuition. thanks. the question comes if

ou're pursuing an engineering degree, should you learn anything else other than engineering? should you take a history or an course? and i think education in the humanities, includinge history, essential for all citizens to have. there was an extended political occurred before i came on the air and if our itizens don't have an understanding of world history, how could they properly vote in lections and understand the issues that face our communities. i think it has to be balanced between your degree program and things that round you out as a human being. but i do think those programs essential. they shouldn't be duplicated, a of the caller which she to take it and asked again in a different university which is why transfer of credits is important. another issue is campus

safety. did an interview with domestic violence, the ray rice video in the nfl. he had this to say -- host: dr. linder, do you agree? hat does the university of nebraska do on this issue of college safety? guest: well, i agree with vice president biden. issue that iss an front page on the news right now. we've always had the good of having a safe

environment at the university of nebraska lincoln. attention to this issue has grown, we've doubled down on ur efforts to make sure that our students are aware of their each sibility to treat other in a respectful manner, to may situations such as occur with bing drinking that could lead to unfortunate behavior. they want to make sure there are counselors available for our so that they're handled in a proper manner, including necessary.ement when lot of the bad behavior on campuses is targeted towards maybe cutho have been a break. at the university of nebraska, if there are any allegations athletes that have occurred on other campuses, it's by the athletic department. it's handled by the separate part of the university or by enforcement. so we -- we take it very

seriously. policies s passed new in may, both for student and employee conduct. to make do our best sure that that's a safe campus. the new website for the university of nebraska lincoln last ecame live in the couple of weeks have a link on there that's called tips. any student, parent, or citizen the opportunity to what they believe to be an unsafe situation that we can address. ost: a couple of other tweets for you here, dr. linder. this one from our viewer who across the w -- nation, there's a movement to privatize parts of state colleges. on the privatize it bandwagon? and james says, have the for-profit businesses affected you in any way? guest: these are two tweets

that address an important issue american education. the current number is $1 rillion in student loan debt, 13% of the students who have been in for profit colleges of that or a third debt. and this is driving a lot of the higher education. so i think that privatization activities have carefully scrutinized and atched to make sure they're fulfilling the core information to benefit the students, not the for the company. caller: my question is the students that are accepted and the students that aren't accepted. what do you say to the local that are not accepted like you mentioned thousands of

foreign students. new laws we the have for employment, a lot of hem are getting the first chance at jobs and for pay. say, engineering, $65,000 for a foreign national student. mike. okay, dr. linder? qualified student ho is from nebraska is guaranteed acceptance from the university of nebraska. n no situation would a qualified student be denied a seat in one of our classrooms because we had a relationship to bring international students to our program. role re very aware of our to educate first and foremost our citizens. we believe that the students that come here and most of them do go back simply home country, add to the cultural experience we have on campus. if there is one thing you could change about higher

what would it be? guest: wow. if you ind of like -- can get a wish, what would it be? i think the awareness of both students as they pursue ntry into college of the citizens in the united states of a college le is of experience and the interaction and the he employers students as they come out. awareness is the answer. answer.road but i firmly believe that if you a ieve understanding of problem and a situation, you can the optimal situation that you want to be in. of i think there's a lot misunderstanding, misawareness

that currently is surrounding discussions of higher education. >> dr. james linder the interim of the university of nebraska part of c-span bus's big ten college tour. that off this week as we told you. if you missed monday -- you can to our website c-span.org to watch that or today's interview well.r website as friday we'll talk with the university of iowa president sally mason. linder, we want to thank you for your time. now live coverage of the house. tom: the house will be in order. -- the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the chair lays before the house a communication from the speaker. the clerk: the speaker's room, washington, d.c., september 10, 2014. i to act as speaker pro tempore on this day john j. duncan