classroom.s in the though i think we've seen a greater and greater impact of education, i still don't think there's a amount of completelyat it will replace that fundamental student-teaching relationship for as long ased universities have existed which is over 25 centuries. host: the annual budget for the billion.y, $1.4 an endowment of $2 billion. alumni, 370,000 worldwide. as far as the annual budget is concerned, you talk about personnel. what about facilities. how much do you spend to keep up facilities?nd add host: this is been -- this is my fear as president. is a major focus of our board of trustees it over this period. institutions, we actually had a very large deferred maintenance bill. his is the -- this is the kind

of stuff that's not glamorous. it's the roads and sidewalks and tunnels, etc. but there's a rule in business that every dollar you don't pend now, you're going to have to spend $4 in the future to rectify that. so we've been putting in the seven or eight years or so an enormous amount of effort to try to at that level catch up significant burden of deferred maintenance. nd more recently, we've had just excellent support from the state. now on top of that, we're also ooking at renovating major buildings on the campus and bringing them up to the kinds of standards and to provide the inds of facilities that are required to support the type of research one expects of the 21st century university. the last seven years, we have under cted or over 50 major

facilitie facilities. it's costing $1.5 billion. and only 30% of that has come state.e the other 70% is coming from the hole variety of other areas, including a considerable amount of individual philanthropy. 202-585-3880 for parents, 3881 for 202-585-3882. and for residents, 3883. good morning, ann. caller: a beautiful campus, a beautiful town, blooming ton. to talk about my direct experience as a single parent of daughters without much economic help from my ex. my daughters are in their 30s, to be excellent students and that was their job. did. i was in middle income and they scholarships great

at small private schools. my oldest went to overland. ended up having to pay $4,000 a year there. other one went -- they all got to small private schools. what we experienced -- i mean decided to go to the university of colorado. nd they didn't give great -- great package. and we found out that after her and we went into debt for the first year, that we ran lot of extremely wealthy kids who were lying about being a large status at school. nd then getting in state -- in state pay which she did get after jumping through all of the of living in state in her freshman year for a year. do you have that same kind of thing where wealthy kids are getting to be in state, money from parents, happening at the university of colorado big

time. schools and small giving, i believe, better scholarships and funding than state schools. and i hope c-span goes and visits some of the small private schools. so if you could address that issue? thanks. host: thank you. go ahead. let me say that we take by the state the distinction between in state students and out of state students. rigorous e pretty requirements as to what the residency requirements and other students to are for be regarded as an in state student and to get tuition at rate versus the other state rate. we have committees that deal appeals and requests to be considered as in state on a regular basis. but they are very hard nosed about what the criteria are when on ort of pride ourselves applying them consistently

across the whole university or all campuses. to financial aid and scholarships and so on which about, we're a large university. have on this campus 46,000 students and 36,000 undergraduates. but we also pride ourselves on the students with incomes of 50,000, they tuition because the combination of state, federal, and university-based financial total oh cost of tuition. for students with family incomes or less, they pay somewhere in the vicinity of of the total costs because the financial gain available to them. get some students

form of financial aid. it was a major focus on our last campaigns. it will be a major focus of our upcoming campaign. last campaign for the blooming ton campus, we raised $200 million. graduate lude scholarships, $300 million in support of scholarships, on, for p, so undergraduate students of both ability to come to the indiana university of bloomington. host: look at accepting potential students. look at the same thing that all institutions do, gpa, school, ., class rankings. what other extracurricular in.ivities they have engaged but we also use what we call holistic evaluation.

that is on the whole, most decision is relatively easy to make, yes or no. ut there are a number of students who fall somewhere in the middle where you want to -- you want to actually take into everything about that student, maybe the gpa is not that great. gpa, it ou look at the started low and in their freshman year in high school, to the he time they got senior year, it approved. so on.gn of maturity and or maybe extracurricular ctivities they've been major leaguers or innovators at their high school. we want to take all of that into account and assure the institution that we are doing to identify and find those students that we think will prosper at indiana university. host: what about students that

need remedial help once they the university. what kind of assistance are they offered? well, indiana as a state, most of the remediation is carried out by the community college system. actually on this campus remediation little anymore and that's actually provided externally. students on the whole arrive pretty well courses of r the study that they are intending to undertake. if they need remediation, it's an extra 15 to 20 around the state. host: how many are taking humanities classes versus technical l and majors? what's the breakdown? guest: i don't have the exact in my head, pedro. but i think the college of arts and sciences probably something

of the students there are taking courses in the amenities and social sciences. we are a university that is very in the humanities and in the social sciences with highly anked apartments in those areas. i'm not sure this is an that we're to add to going to have particularly strong and weak. 70 each somewhere between and 80 different foreign languages which makes us in of the number of languages taught one of the top institutions in the country. are few other universities hat teach that many foreign languages. we teach foreign languages in every part of the world. ones and the less commonly taught ones as well. we also teach the culture and history, soconomics,

on, of most parts of the world. we have a series of federally unded what i call title 6 centers that cover the whole -- as well. of the world but we decided that we needed to bring all that together to increase the kinds of ducational opportunities that we provide for our students. o now about two years ago, our board of truls tees approved the formation of a new school of international studies. your colleagues will no doubt see the large building that at the moment that will house the whole of that new school. and that school will house programs and add 70 to 80 different foreign languages nd all of the associated programs in the culture of those particular culture history, economics, politics, and those regions of the country. appointed a -- a new dean of foundation, dean of the

-- last a year. and he's just commenced his position here. former u.s. ambassador to the d and has worked in white house and elsewhere in washington. that area isrankly going to be one of the top study school unless the midwest and consequently provide not only specialists' qualifications in nternational studies, but to expand and enhance the kinds of that we can provide to our students. in my view, it's a problem of our in the universities and trustees. one of the most important things a have to provide as university is international literacy. noblesville, from indiana, a parent, hello? caller: how are you doing. $85 aid the endowment is

million plus. what is it used for. we see a lot of date rape and campus.use on what is the university doing about that? line.take it off thanks. thanks. guest: there is nothing more than the welfare of the students. we're deeply concerned about the welfare with all of our students. earlier this year, we announced a student welfare initiative a comprehensive of sexual problems iolence and all other kinds of issues that you have raised that s actually managed an administrative in the class level of the institution. two class presidents, co-chair,

executive council that is esponsible for the improvement and the implementation of new policy in this area. of thehould add that one things we're most proud of on this campus is in the university. our students are not just sitting around waiting for the dministration to do more to address these issues and so on. the students a number of years of their own initiative formed an initiative called culture of care, which is student-led initiative that is managed, y run, initiated by the students which is students helping students by awareness as well. something i have nothing but praise for. the work of our students to put

place.rogram in and it has had a significant i know it's being widely praised and looked at by the institutions. first part of your question, of the l endowment university is across all at $1.8 billion. uh should note we're proud of his compared to harvard with a total endowment of $1.8 billion in endowment we have goes to a purposes different and those are defined by the donors. for example, i'm a donor to the institution. wife and i support four different graduate fellowships there. there. those are defined by a league the university endowment and that's true of tens of thousands or hundreds of

people.ds of other it sounds like a large amount of money, the great bulk of it is identified for specific purposes and undergraduate scholarships, endowed professorships, funding to upport research programs and the schools within the university and some of it to the building and construction of new infrastructure. and guest on end the c-span bus is michael mcrobby, the president of university. how did you end up the president? know i was aid you native of australia? recruited here for --

i was recruited 18 years ago. vice president of research and progress and appointed president. i never expected when i moved i would end up president of the university. but honored and delighted to be position. and i must say as much as i njoy visiting my home country, i'm an american citizen now, i never regretted the move for one nanosecond. this is home, indiana, blooming ton, wonderful place. fabulousniversity is a university. university. and i enjoy every minute of my life here. lawrence, pennsylvania an educator, hi, lawrence? hi.ler: to get to your general education program. know kind of a follow-up, what kind of human y

english,s, philosophy, a student -- well, all students are likely to get in those important first two years of college. thank you very much. > yes, we have a general education program that with some variations applies across all of the campuses of the university, seven campuses, campuses of the university. campus in particular, students will -- it's a large campus with many courses, many areas, it -- in expected tudents are to have done a series of onsecutive courses in the humanities, social sciences, sciences, mathematic is nd also to have done a number of years of foreign language. and this was -- in was put in our faculty through their initiative now about eight

years ago. and has recently commenced -- program in the general concept of general something that has my complete support. t is, to me, one of the real fundamentals of american higher education, it's what's called liberal education. education in both the different areas of human knowledge. but you also get an education in certain areas that you major or minor. ou get the education in some depth. that model, the american model of liberal education is frankly the best in the world. i speak to someone who comes from another part of the world. lot of other systems of education around the world.

the most envied things about the united states is the education you get an american universities. in china now maybe five meeting with chinese university presidents. they told me -- they have studied your system of education. poured money into higher education in china. we're still not getting the right kind of graduate who is so innovative as the kind of graduates that come out of american universities. system and we believe the key thing that we're missing is the system of liberal in the n that you have united states. you'll see some of the major universities developing that approach because of enormous see is the success they've had in the united states. 202-585-3880 for

students, 3881 for parents, 3882, and for indiana 202-585-3883. you talked about getting a liberal education, you heard the rgument that you should go to college, get an education that job?d guarantee you a >> i go back to what i said the fact that we're certainly aware of that concern. initiative of the major university that we announced which provides a classic's degree of the kind that i was just describing with a one-year master's degree business and provides it on an accelerated basis. yearsly it would take six or so. provide it in five years and the opportunity for the last year to be on-line. that's -- that's in direct response to that concern which i

some cases is a one.timate as i said, we have already and are looking at expanding that across all of our schools. example, the process of eveloping the same kinds of accelerated bachelor's degrees on masters degrees and so that provides somebody with a informatics and computing on top of a bachelor's degree of a more classic kind. i said, we're very much aware of that. enormous benefits that i was just describing. an when coupled with additional qualification in informaltic -- informatics, bus

so on, what qualifies a student to be successful in the work place? competition does the university get from for profit universities? guest: i don't -- i don't see at all, competition frankly. going for profits. very little. i see that -- i think a major competition is for the rest of the big ten and the colleagues you're visiting around the midwest. we all compete among ourselves i in a very neral healthy way for the best faculty.and the best that you're ies visiting are in some ways one of the real unheralded strengths of country. people maybe think more of the west coast than the east coast. the big ten universities that you're visiting, now there are 14. universities n that you are visiting, collectively, there's an

of all of rcentage the research. the enormous percentage of studentsstudents, phd. in the united states. it's something of which the big ten are very proud. you think about the quality of for profit universities? guest: sorry, could you say again? i didn't catch it? host: what do you think about profit ity of for universities? guest: i'd leave that to others. quite a usly it's been of controversy about that question and i think the key we g as i said is we see -- see -- and if -- i mean, by for profit, you're not talking institutions which are not for profits. but different to the public see rsity, but we -- we very little competition from them. beach, a om virginia parent, hi. you doing? how are host: yeah, go ahead a ler: and i'm trying to ask

question about he explained explained about being a liberal education. how does he mean liberal? mean by liberal? hopefully it basically it's in basically he's teaching the foreign languages basically for a full

cost of attendance for all of athletes.nt so everything that is involve in

is covered ion through the kind of scholarships we provide. nowmore importantly, we are going to provide full four-year scholarships so as a student comes, student athlete comes to and even if rts, for performance reasons, other reasons, they are no longer in athletics, we will guarantee them a scholarship for that for years. o it completely removes from any worries about the cost of their education. mindful for reasons, sometimes reasons, sometimes family, sometimes other reasons, students may leave before they graduate. inll guarantee at some point the future that student -- we'll cover the remaining costs of the assuming education they're in good economic standing. think about that. a student comes to our u.

has been a fantastic athlete. after two years they're ecruited to go to the professionals. they don't finish their degree. they break their leg and never again.y what are they left with? probably little. we will guarantee the cost of their education back at indiana finish their degree so they have a chance to re-establish themselves in another profession with that ndiana university qualification. there's a series of other major components that a student will arrive to, 10 major components to it. much focused on comprehensive approach to improving all aspects of the engagement of student athletes in the university. host: what do you see as the future of the university, not just yours, but the universities as a whole. what do they face as the future?

guest: i've had a particular -- interest of the american universities. universities are the longest face institutions on the of this planet. the claims to have been founded in 200 bc. the catholic n church. you look at the history of some of the great universities in indiana. over 1,000 years before they finally came to an end and what you. o universities really have the lived.f being long that doesn't mean there aren't fundamental changes coming in of already here, in terms of the model of education that we provide. an information technologist. impact of he

information technology in education for the past 40 odd my career. effect for the last 40 years. for me, that effect is more incremental. who believes dy the apocalyptic vision that it all collapse tomorrow and suddenly become a new model. it will be changing. the chairman is quite right that wake up tors should scared every day about where the changes should go. but seen incremental constant change as opposed to complete paradigm change in the gos. host: if you have to look at one thing that you would say that universities have to do to what would tive, that be? well, i think clearly where we started the interview,

-- they haveave to to remain affordable. i give an example of that -- that we for the last year had our lowest ever in 40 years tuition increase. focused on uch keeping an iu education affordable. other thing is that we at the same time have to be able to compete for the very best intellectual talent out there. universities you mean american universities, it is a the hot competition for very best intellectual talent out there. we compete now seeing this in recent years, very ood faculty from asia, from europe, who probably would not have considered going back to agohome countries ten years who have returned to their home countries because they simply

there.ot better offers and that's -- that is -- it's the very best faculty doing the research and the great -- the great teachers. pedagogists, it's hese people who are really fundamental to our institution retaining them and recruiting them to us is a critical part of what we do. >> we're about to go to the house, kathy. if you can jump in with your ahead.on, go >>. caller: yes, sir. it's crippling to our family happening to us at iu. i've been served seven times the sheriff's office that we've been late on our student loans. could be done about this? we signed fun for scholarships. e did everything that was supposed to be done. when it was time to go to

college, it fell through. now her american dream is not realistic. to will not be be able married, buy a home. she's so far in debt. now has nothing to do with the degree. a degree t even need for it. the economy tanked and we're just sunk. story you kind of tell is, i'm afraid, all too common. we reduce that kind of problem in that kind of future. i think that's earlier in the interview, one i describe comprehensive approach to financi financial literacy and an approach that both educates in personal, financial management. it actually -- it educates them consequences of taking loans. t helps to educate them in

understanding what they really need money for as opposed to given what's the equivalent of the credit card the limit on it. we anecdotally are aware of the are that a lot of students getting loans beyond what they need for their education. 2k3we89ing handle on it and is again tudent debt one of the most important things we're doing as an institution. the impact of this 11% indicated before eduction in the amount of bothered by indiana university $51 ents in the last year, million reduction is at least the beginning of a way of problems he kinds of that you have just described. now, all this i described, we'll

enhance on it, build it, so on. i continue to see a continued the amount of student debt at the university increasing h an amount of funding for cholarships, fellowship, student financial aid coming through things like campaigns and the institution. a major , it will be focus of our next campaign which will be announcing shortly. host: what do you do to keep in touch with the student body? with them o you meet directly? guest: i spent -- let me think, three hours bly last -- just last friday group of with a advisors through the president. years.ad this nearly 100 and i meet with them on a regular basis. i meet with.oup

i have lunch with all of the student leaders on campus. so i'm probably interacting on a eekly basis with student leadership in some form. i have a number of student inerns who work on my office a variety of different areas. we had a very d, large institution. across seven campuses the state. students in 000 total for indiana university. so comprehensively keeping in of them is ll obviously going to be difficult. have a good ly sense of the feel for the -- from the student body. have to say that the kind out of ourt has come students, i mentioned the culture of care initiative i talked about. they provide me with annual reports on a variety of agree nt areas that we

on. and saw the quality of work that students.he host: i apologize -- guest: as good as any work coming oh it of faculty. we have to leave this answer with you. the president joining us now. mr. president, thank you. and it's a joint meeting to the house of representatives to hear from the ukrainian president taking place. live coverage on c-span.

the speaker: the joint meeting will come to order. the chair appoints as members of the committee on the part of the house to escort president petro poroshenko into the chamber. the gentleman from california, mr. mccarthy, the gentleman from louisiana, mr. scalise, the gentlewoman from washington state, mrs. mcmorris rodgers, the gentleman from oregon, mr. walden, the gentlewoman from kansas, ms. jenkins, the gentleman from california, mr. mckeeon, the gentleman from california, mr. --