>> statement of the prime minister. the right honorable prime minister. [applause] >> mr. speaker, in recent months, the international community has reacted, with virtually unanimous outrage and alarm at the rise of isil, the so-called islamic state of iraq and the levant. isil has established a self-proclaimed caliphate, at present stretching over a vast territory roughly from aleppo to near baghdad, from which it intends to launch a terrorist jihad not merely against the region but on a

global basis. indeed it has specifically targeted canada and canadians, urging supporters to attack, quote, 'disbelieving canadians in any manner', vowing that we should not feel secure even in our homes. it would be convenient to dismiss such statements as the mere rambling of lunatics were it not for the fact that isil's deeds have been fully in line with its words. more shockingly, isil's words are matched by its actions. in the territory isil has occupied it has conducted a campaign of unspeakable atrocities against the most innocent of people. it has tortured and beheaded children, it has raped and sold women into slavery, it has slaughtered minorities, captured prisoners and innocent civilians whose only crime is being or thinking differently from isil. indeed by late last summer, isil

stood on the brink of committing large-scale genocide in northern iraq. it was at that moment that canada's allies in the international community, led by president obama, decided to intervene. canadians have joined in this response. on september 5th, i announced that members of the canadian army, in a non-combat role, would advise and assist security forces in iraq battling the terrorists. we had already begun, through the royal canadian air force, moving weapons and supplies donated by our allies to security forces in northern iraq. and we indicated that canada was prepared to do more. today we are bringing forward a motion asking this house to confirm its confidence for a government decision to join our allies and partners the united states, the united kingdom, france, australia, denmark, the

netherlands, belgium, jordan, saudi arabia, bahrain, the united arab emirates and likely others in launching air strikes against isil. in addition to these air strikes, the government of canada will, in response to requests from iraqi authorities as well as other allies and partners, continue to assist in other, non-combat, counter-terrorism roles. we will also contribute one air-to-air refuelling aircraft, two aurora surveillance aircraft, and the necessary air crews and support personnel. in addition we are extending the deployment in a non-combat role of the up to 69 members of the canadian army advising and assisting security forces in iraq. there will however be no ground combat mission, which is explicitly ruled out in the resolution. these contributions are for a

period of up to six months. let me be clear on the objectives of this intervention. we intend to significantly degrade the capabilities of isil. specifically, its ability to either engage in military movements of scale, or to operate bases in the open. this will halt isil's spread in the region and greatly reduce its capacity to launch terrorist attacks outside the region. to be clear, this will not eliminate isil nor automatically ensure that alternative governance is able to occupy its space in iraq or syria. it will, however, open the opportunity for others to do so. but again to be clear, while isil will not be eliminated, the

risks presented from the territory in which it operates will be significantly reduced to those of other similar ungoverned spaces in the broader region. there are, mr. speaker, two other matters on which i wish to elaborate. first, the resolution confirms the government of canada's intention to strike isil and its allies. we will strike isil where and only where canada has the clear support of the government of that country.

at present this is only true in iraq. if it were to become the case in syria, then we will participate in air strikes against isil in that country also. the revulsion of the government of canada to the actions of the assad regime is well known. but we are participating only in a counter-terrorism operation against the terrorists around isil. we have no intention of participating in a war against the government of any country in the region. second, let me assure canadians that the government is seized with the necessity of avoiding a prolonged quagmire in this part of the world. the actions we have announced are ones that could be ended with relative ease.

indeed, we and our allies are acting now precisely to avoid a situation that was clearly headed to a wider, protracted and much more dangerous conflict. let me also say that the military measures we are taking do not in any way preclude humanitarian actions. there is no either/or here. in response to horrifying human suffering, we have already been providing emergency shelter and urgent health care for thousands of civilians in iraq through support to humanitarian organizations on the ground, and substantial assistance to the government of iraq. this is in addition to large scale financial assistance already being furnished to the significant number of countries in the region that have been impacted by the humanitarian

catastrophe in syria. let me also assure canadians that the government will continue to be seized with the broader terrorist threats against canada. we have strengthened laws in this country to deal with the issue of so-called canadian foreign fighters. we have broadened the grounds for passport revocation against such people as well as allowing for the stripping of citizenship from dual nationals who engage in terrorist activities. we will soon bring forward additional measures to strengthen the ability of our security services to monitor aspiring terrorists to where possible prevent their return to canada or to where that is not possible give greater tools to be able to charge and prosecute. mr. speaker, to return to the matter before us today, i urge all members to consider and to support the motion we have presented.

i do this, mr. speaker, in recognizing that in a democracy, especially one approaching an election, there is rarely political upside in supporting any kind of military action and little risk in opposing it. nevertheless, for regional and global security and, of course, the security of canadians, this action is necessary. the evidence of the necessity of this, mr. speaker, there is none better than the fact that the mission has been launched by president obama, the leader who had withdrawn american troops and proudly ended the war in iraq. of course, mr. speaker, one could say that while the mission is evidently necessary, we don't

have to be the ones doing it because others will. but, mr. speaker, throughout our history that has never been the canadian way. it has never been the canadian way to do only the most easy and praiseworthy of actions and to leave the tough things for others. indeed, mr. speaker, colleagues, we should be under no illusion. if canada wants to keep its voice in the world, and we should since so many of our challenges are global, being a free rider means you are not taken seriously. the threat posed by isil is real. and it is grave. and it is explicitly directed, in part, against this country.

left unchecked, this terrorist threat can only grow and grow quickly. as a government we know our ultimate responsibility is to protect canadians and to defend our citizens from those who would do harm to us or our families. we also know that our country, like our allies, shares the duty and burden of all free peoples, to act against wider global threats when it is in our capacity to do so. and when our allies recognize and respond to a threat that would also harm us, we canadians do not stand on the sidelines. we do our part. on monday, this house will debate the motion put forward for an air combat campaign

against isil. i call on all members of this house to show their support for this mission and of course our support for the brave men and women of the canadian armed forces who are now and always ready and willing to answer the call of their country. >> the honorable leader of the opposition. >> thank you, mr. speaker.

would like to thank the prime minister for coming to the house of commons today. , it democracy like ours ,hould go without saying because the prime minister will be determining the fate of many courageous young men and women who will be serving the country with their lives and risk making .he ultimate sacrifice the prime minister is asking for the support of this parliament. he is asking for canadian support but the prime minister has refused to answer their questions. let me quote the prime minister. understand, you can i have neither the will nor the desire to get into detailed discussions of military operations here. neither the will nor the desire.

that was the fear of this parliament and it was not just about the details. the prime minister has not outlined a strategic blueprint for the mission. he cannot answer basic questions about the breath or cost of canadian military deployment. when will canadian forces arrive in iraq and how many? no answer. what contribution of our american allies requested? no answer. how much will this mission cost? what are the rules of engagement? what is our exit strategy? no answer, no answer, no answer. these are not hypothetical questions. -- what, ate gave supposedning, was also to be a short-term and restrictive mission in afghanistan turned into an operation where our military personnel were deployed for the longest time in our history, 12 years.

$30 billion. over 40,000 veterans of that war, 100 60 dead, thousands injured, and thousands of others who now suffer from post-traumatic stress. is that mission accomplished? in this case, at the beginning, the afghan mission only included a few dozen soldiers. 39 days ago, conservatives insisted the canadian was only in anada was only engaging noncombat mission for a few months with a few soldiers. ally of the prime minister was the liberal party which unreservedly supported the mission, but without a doubt was going to lead us to where we are today.

even though there wasn't a shadow of a doubt that that would leave us exactly where we are today. but now the canadian troops are committed. theervatives are telling us mission will be expanded. airstrikes, refueling capabilities, aerial surveillance, and now, the prime minister is specifically opening the door to bombing in syria. from mission creep to mission leap. the united states has been in this conflict for over 10 years. they have been fighting isis under one name or another for over 10 years. while isis has renamed itself several times since 2004, al qaeda in iraq, mujahedin council, the islamic state, the islamic state in iraq and syria, this is literally the same insurgent group that u.s. forces have been battling for over a

decade. even the foreign affairs minister, in a moment of rare candor for this government, admitted there were no quick fixes in iraq. he called this the struggle of a generation. that may well prove to be an understatement. the prime minister said canada would be in iraq until isis no longer has the capability to launch attacks in iraq, syria, or anywhere else. now he says it will be only six months. it can't be both. the defeat of the insurgency in iraq is a goal the united states has been trying, without success, to achieve since the wrongheaded invasion of 2003. all of the horrors unfolding before our eyes are the result of that failed mission. remember back in 2003, it was as prime minister, at the time leader of the opposition, who

went to the americans to be rate of the canadian government for in what he involved considered a just and noble cause. their nostalgia is such that his immigration minister, during the emergency debate in this house just a few days ago, actually dusted off the canard of western -- of weapons of mass distraction to try to justify this war. the prime minister and says -- insists that iraq will not become a quagmire, but isn't that precisely what our american allies have been facing for 10 years? we have a plan for the war? do we have a plan for the thousands or tens of thousands of veterans that we have the sacred responsibility to fully support in years after? we must hope that the debate that will be held monday will

bring as answers and that unlike theemergency debate, ministers responsible will be there and will be able to inform canadians who feel these questions have not been answered. the case for canada to go to war in iraq has not been made. no.courage to say the toronto star editorial, the prime minister failed to make the case for canadian combat role in iraq. there are dozens of editorials and opinions like that across our country. intervention is not the only tool at a candidates disposal, and iraq is not the only place where arendt is violence has been committed -- karen this violence has been committed. in congo, 5 million dead. the prime minister has never

considered military intervention in congo. indoor four, hundreds of thousands of people dead -- in offur were hundreds thousands of people dead but the prime minister never considered military action there. why? i is military action considered our only option in iraq when it is not even considered elsewhere? what does the prime minister think he will be able to accomplish with military force that has not been accomplished since 2003? isis has thrived in iraq and syria because those countries lack stable, functioning governments capable of providing security within their own borders. canada's first contribution should be to use every diplomatic, humanitarian and financial resource at our disposal to respond to the human tragedy on the ground and strengthen political institutions in both of those countries.

with the well-deserved credibility canada earned by rejecting the initial ill-advised invasion of iraq, we are in a position to take on the task. syriaagedy in iraq and will not end with another western led invasion in that region. it will end by helping the people of iraq and syria to build the political institutions and security capabilities they need to oppose these threats themselves. canada, for our part, should not rush into this war. canada, for our part, should not rush into this war. thank you, mr. speaker.

>> canadian prime minister stephen harper will talk more about his plan for combating isis on monday when he and his cabinet will take questions from members of the house of commons. we will have that live at 2:15 p.m. eastern on c-span. it is being reported that texas congressman ralph hall has been hospitalized following a car accident. the 91-year-old lawmaker is the oldest serving member of congress in one of two remaining world war ii veterans in the house. he is currently being treated at a medical center in texas. in about 35 minutes we will be live from montana for the first and only scheduled debate between the candidates running ,or montana's only house the john lewis and ryan xing key. the debate comes courtesy of the

montana television network. until then, a look at some of the governors races this election cycle from "washington journal. host: next up we will talk with james hohmann a reporter for politico about the group -- gubernatorial races then highway safety and trucking regulations. host: our next guest is james hohmann a reporter for politico to talk about vulnerable incumbent governors across the country. guest: good to be with you. host: you wrote a story with headline incumbent gives fear wipeout. you wrote since 1960 four out of five only two were defeated in 2010 and none lost two years ago. but this year all of that could potentially change. right now republicans control 29 governorships and democrats 21.

how do you see the balance of power changing come november? a states like connecticut and in play.are right now republicans control 29. a y are likely to pick up seat in arkansas where a governor is retiring and up crats are likely to pick maine and pennsylvania with two elected in d those the tea party who have never been very popular, have truggled and the states are returning to the natural democratic inclinations. gives u have a bunch of out that folks who won in 2010 good he republicans had a year in states that barack obama carried twice and now they have to defend their seats. of them are household names. scott walker in wisconsin a tough race. he probably will win but by one or two points because wisconsin is a blew state. in michigan. rick snyder ran in 2010 and up trailing in on, some polls. then some surprises. former s sam brownback

senator and presidential candidate he said he wanted to for kansas a laboratory conservative experimentation and tax cuts a lot of big that forced spending cuts and he is not very popular. in a state as right as theas the democrat leads in polls. i ranked the 10 most vulnerable incumbent who i think is the to the least e based on talking to operatives and people on the ground and in campaigns and looking at the polls. right now they are vulnerable one month out. overarching e an theme why they are vulnerable and a coincidence conflict of the factors you just mentioned? uest: there are a lot of local factors and the natural complexion where republicans

but a lot of it is the economy. you are seeing these debates like the 2012 presidential campaign in the ense that the republicans are saying there hasn't been as much economic growth as we would like the way. on you will see it soon. good.p line numbers are unemployment is going down but like the queezed,le country is on the wrong track so there is back and forth where wants tolican governor blame barack obama for feeling like things are broken and the democrat says you have been in of the state four years why haven't you turned it around. michigan is a great example. snyder who ran as a former .e.o. of a computer company a moderate persona came in and he has made a lot of very big big reforms. he took detroit and put it into bankruptcy, the largest ever and it has come out

take on ptcy trying to the 50-year problem. good top line economic numbers people are struggling and wages are down unemployment one of the highest rates in the country. so, rick snyder had been running commercials that said michigan there's been a michigan comeback. e have had a comeback in michigan but the last couple of weeks he changed the commercials feel it yet y not but the michigan comeback is on its way. indication that people don't feel like the economic gains have come. that in a bunch of other states, especially the ust belt like pennsylvania and wisconsin. host: we want to hear who you will vote for in the november elections. can call us and let us know , the republican line democratic line and the independent line. on us on social media

twitter and on facebook or send .s an e-mail you mentioned earlier about the president's influence on some of gubernatorial races. a colleague wrote that the resident is spending more time campaigning for gives than he senators. what is the impact there? guest: barack obama was in thursday and a lot of senate democrats because of of the map where democrats made gains in 2008 senate were elected in 2008 and gives unning for election were first elected in 2010, a good republican year. o the senate democrats are defending seats in places where bama's popularity has taken a hit and people in arkansas, louisiana.

alaska, colorado, iowa, don't barack obama around because right now his approval rating is 40's. low on the governor's side the emocrats are trying to defend seats in illinois and his home state he is incredibly popular pat quinn the governor there who is vulnerable was happy to president not just campaign but raise $1.35 million fund-raiser in chicago. so in some states like michigan candidate very much wants obama to come because thean motivate and activate drop-off voters. michigan has a lot of african-americans and young the became coalition when you look at polls they are not seen as likely voters and that he could motivate them even if overall his approval rating is lower than he carried the state. host: we will take the first rich from easton,

pennsylvania, on the democratic line. taking my nks for call. if they got that all the republican senators and to just vote no and take a pledge to just vote no that nothing would happen in this united states? thank you. guest: well, on the ebola legislative remedies are difficult. you are seeing a lot of members differentrs, call for things. we saw a lot of republicans call basically banning flights from the united stat -- from africa. it is not clear what they could pass because they are home campaigning. it is not clear what the legislative remedy with be what ou would be voting against or for. host: next is david from

arnegie, pennsylvania, on the republican line. caller: i was calling in only , i would usually don't say 70% of the time vote republican but this time i to be not [inaudible] even though they say pennsylvania is on the rise and the gas ause of underneath us. but i see the jobs are going to becauserom other states we don't have enough qualified people in this state to take those jobs. i'm tkpwg going to vote. tax go up 28 cents and yet aware not charge -- we charging anything to bring the gas out from nderneath us and from what i understand pennsylvania is almost like the saudi arabia of gas. west virginia and virginia charge it bring it out ground. i don't understand why they don't make up some of the money

aware losing that way. guest: david just captured the reason tom corbett is going to 20 points. host: you rank him as the most list.able on your guest: three years ago i wrote story called him a dead man walking which was early. it has been one of the things daingerfield.ney gets no respect. e did raise taxes in some ways and arguably he had to make a lot of tough decisions because here were bucket problems when he took over but he has been handling over his handling of jerry n state and sandusky situation when attorney general and for two years there over him and to vote s point i mostly republican when you look at polls in pennsylvania about a hird of republicans are defecting from corbett t. is a emocratic leaning and bluish purple state but a lot of

republicans are not voting for attacked d they have wolf and thrown everything they have at him but it hasn't dynamic he underlying and at this point a lot of the big outside groups that might kind of all here agree it is off the table and have moved on. brian from s michigan on the democratic line. james other state on hohma hohmann's vulnerable list to watch. caller: good morning. mr. rick g about snyder the flip-flopper. he gave money to schools all four years of his office and he's lying like a horse thief. $1.7 billion taken out of education. given back about $1 billion. hat is his idea of paying education ahead four years and right it opped on the work law.

last for that until the legislature. so he is a liar. you capture one of the reasons the democrats are feeling very good about michigan. there were all teahese ads abou spending and organized hit rick snyder because he signed right to work legislation and aid he didn't want to didn't have a position and then it because e signed he didn't feel like he had a choice and that upset the unions. so probably higher than beating wisconsin who is the public enemy number one of target.snyder is a top with that money the governors association ran brutal attack highlighting education cuts the first year that snyder was governor and he didn't respond.y there was a degree of

overconfidence and he felt like achieved big things and he is pretty popular with the d.c. set didn't respond his negatives started to rise and approval rating took a hit they are running the ads bout the comeback and now a month out you have the give shifting his messages, he still a one-on-oneo have debate with his democratic challenge challenger former congress plan is a very interesting dynamic partly because they allegations d to they are in much more dire straits than three months ago. host: a caller on the independent line from roger on the independent line. wiveragetsdz we've got kshsksh caller: we've got another flip-flopper. he's supported obama here and

we are definitely as independents going to be supporting brink scott for reelection. >> and it's going to come down to what the independents decide to do. thank you for bringing florida into the conversation because i haven't mentioned it and it's probably the most important and truly toss-up governors' race of the year. rick scott, former health care ceo was able to spend his way to win that seat never been particularly popular. but barack obama is really unpopular in florida. so much more kind of conservative than it was in 2012 or 2008 and he is now running against charlie kris ho is the rick cot's predecessor and then shortly after the 2012 campaign after being a surrogate for obama became a democrat and a lot of the ads in tv highlight his flip flops saying i think obama

is terrible, then it's great saying he's pro life then pro choice. so that race is really a race to the bottom because neither guy is particularly popular. the republican spent close to $30 million on attack ads and they really did take a toll on charlie kris' image. they used to like him and thought he was a nice guy but that's changed. so rick scott has opened a slight lead but ultimately still in the low to mid 40's. you have to find a way to improve your vote share. so now then chiffs has been defined and the crace is on can rick scott convince enough people that he is the lesser of two evils. he's trying to do that. there's an ad running in florida and it features his wife and he taking a long walk on the beach holding hands and nare rates how they lived the american dream and supposed to

be very sweet ad that's supposed to make you like rick scott. and all of charlie's ads are just hammering rick scott on his tenure as a health care ceo. host: another state that is in your circuit that we haven't mentioned yet is connecticut. the candidates, dan malloy and tom foley faced off in a debate. they got into a very heated exchange about foley's decades old arrest in which he resurrect add 2004-2005 corruption investigation into malloy. >> people don't always do what you do, tom. they don't bankrupt companies, they don't lay off workers. they don't treat people the way you've treated them in the past. you've questioned me and questioned my integrity. i would not have done that to you but raised these subjects but for the fact that you've gone a little over the top. >> mr. foley, your response.

>> have you seen any of your ttack ads? you're a better prosecutor than governor, sir. listen, you repeatedly have not been truthful about things you've said about me including tonight. i think the leadership an important aspect of leadership is being truthful. and you refer to a fine. i was never fined. by the sece but you were investigated for corruption. ings people would much rather hear about your plan to get the state on track and get people's lives moving forward. >> if you believe in telling the truth, tom, why don't you tell us how you lost $2.8 million in two years and why

you didn't pay any income taxes in 2011 or 2012. why don't you disclose that information to the public so that they can put in context what you say is a great business career? host: that was the debate on thursday night between the capped dates in connecticut's governors race. are all of the races that you were talking about in your story quite excite sng >> steve cully was on twitter as that was going on saying this is the most intensive debate we've had on c-span yet tweeting some of those exchanges. that captures just the mud-slinging there. and it's more than we even covered in that window. that debate was particularly nasty. a lot of these debates are nasty. it's because it's an off year, a nonpresidential year. a lot of the commercials are aimed as much at getting people who might for your opponent to not show up at all as to vote for you. it's less persuading people to

vote for you but persuading people that the other guy is terrible. and you saw that in that debate and it is a lot of negativity because you have these governors who are not particularly popular and you have to -- their approval rating might be in the low 40's. so you can win reelection but it's only by being a little more attractive than your opponent. so we've seen that in wisconsin where scott walker is outperforming his approval rating and this week both walker and the republican governors association are running ads attacking mary burke for plagiarizing part of her jobs plan. so that's kind of a good effective hit and they're going to keep hammering her on. brownback the -- sam not particularly popular. paul davis, currently in the lead in a lot of polls, he came out, found police reports that he had been at a strip club in 1998 during a meth bust never

charged with any wrong doing but looks bad. he's in the back room of this strip club and now republicans are running commercials in kansas pointing that out saying what happened? you judge a person by their past and on and on. so your question about the negativity when you're seeing those kinds of ads come up in these races you're definitely seeing this race to the bottom. >> the mud-slinging is happening fast and furious. back to your own lines. an on the drabtic line. caller: i'm not an, i'm kim. guest: hi, kim. caller: the flip-flop going on here in california, too, and i'm one of them. i have voted republican quite a while and i'm going democrat straight ticket. part of that has to do with there's just no competition. we're here in a drought and all i'm hearing from the republicans is that there's nothing to see here, keep it

moving. and they're not dealing with the issues. everything is no. i look at what they're doing with the president and in congress and just -- the scales have finally -- host: that's ann from california. next up legislator rain on the independent line. caller: thank you for taking my call. i am an independent. i don't think christy is running on new jersey but i have to tell you i would never vote for a democrat at all. and even some of the republicans i have big questions on. i mean, as far as flip-flopping, geez. there's so much money that they make from the lobbyists and every one of them. and people are struggling with their balancing their checkbooks and the money that being spent is awful when

you look at it. host: so which part are you going to vote for in november? guest: well caller: well probably republican bhaws what is the choice? i think cory booker is up for senator at this election. i would never vote for him. and -- but he has a big chance to win and it's mostly a democratic state and we don't really have a choice even with republicans. guest: thanks. first on california. jerry brown is not on my list. he is going to win that reelection, win another term. it's not competitive despite any republican hopes that state is just solidly blue. in new jersey, it's interesting there's not a governors race, chris christy kind of ran up his margin a year ago with reelection with kind of a presidential campaign on mind been on defensive for the last year trying to put that behind

him. in the senate race cory booker won a special election last year in october of 2013 he's going to almost certainly win reelection. he's facing a guy named jeff bell who is a ronald reagan speech writer in the 70's ran for senate in 1978 and defeated an incumbent republican senator in the primary then lost to bill bradley in the general election that year. he came down moved to virginia has worked at think tanks for decades and decided as kind of a late life crisis i guess to move back to new jersey and to try running against cory booker. and it's been a funny campaign. he's close friends with bill crystal the editor of the weekly standard so he's gotten a lot of kind love from the right and the right-leaning blogs and magazines, et cetera but cory booker will win that race in new jersey. it's kind of fun to watch though. host: next up, ohio, republican line. caller: i'm calling about john

casic and do you think he really is going to take the state and the other guy doesn't have a license and he's not -- you know, but he's writing obama's coat tale and maybe because it is a democratic leaning stated that they have a shot? and kind of wanted to get your opinion. i mean, he's like the chris christy of the midwest. guest: thank you for your call. that is a race people thought was going to be competitive on the early list. it was high. ed fitzgerald there, has been a disaster. his campaign has imploded. he was seen in the arguably there was some questions surrounding it but he was in a car with a woman who wasn't his wife in a parking lot in a police report that came out and very sketchy. then he didn't have an active drivers' license. but it's much bigger than that.

he just ran an awful campaign. and the fund raising numbers came out yesterday. john casic raised $1.6 million last month and ed fits gerald, in the thousands. but i think he is going to run for president and going to run up the margin this year. he doesn't want to talk about it but he ran for president in 2000 dropped out when bush became the nominee. but he has the right kind of profile. he has a record he can point to in ohio, obviously a presidential swing state. in congress, chairman of the house budget can he in the 90s. so i think he is not on a lot of those 2016 lists, he's not in washington so we don't talk about him as much as a marco rubio or rand paul but john is someone to definitely keep an eye on. host: that's a good point you bring up, which is what does the outcome of these elections sort of say about which party will sort of have momentum

going into 2016? guest: in a lot of ways the governors races are more important than the senate races for deciding the 2016 dynamic. and really, because there's going to be gridlock in congress no matter what, the republicans are going to control the house so obama is not going to advance any agenda. but if democrats control some of these state houses where they already control the state legislature they could expand medicaid in states where they haven't. they could implement a lot of key priorities. but there's a lot of frustration among democrats that obama isn't doing more to help the governors help the democratic governors association. on some of these races there are very important 2016 implications. scott walker in wisconsin very tough race he won the recall election in 2012, walker is going to run for president if he wins the election this november. if he loses, his political career is essentially done but i think he is going to end up

win big 1 or 2 points. i think rick snyder might try to run for president. if he wins. so there are a lot of people. it's fun to watch because chris christy is the chair of the republican governors association. he's traveling in this past week he was campaigning with both scott walker and john casic in ohio because both of them are probably going to be his competition just next year for the presidential nomination. host: friends are enemies. right? next up is from stfment florida on the democratic line. caller: good morning. i'm calling about -- we have christy here, we have chris and scott. what do you prefer? well, i don't like either of the two but i'm going with the flip-flopper who was governor for a while, was good to the people. d he's got a good family

record, better than scott. scott now is a family man when he's only a material businessman. e was dalled when we had the opportunity with the obama funds for the rail from orlando to tampa which would have given us jobs. he said no. but when they said that they should background check people on stands he said yes. when we all know that his wife's business has been drug testing medical lab for years. so what do i prefer? i prefer a flip-flopper that is honest. not a corrupted one with a lot of money. guest: she has just captured an important dine nick in florida, which is why are so many democrats supporting this guy who was a republican governor only four years ago? nd a lot of it is because it's rick scott. -- they hate rick scott and they want to win. so kind of one of the amazing stories of this year is that

who was able to coast to the democratic nomination. he had a primary opponent but not a credible one and has the support and backing of everyone here. but what is interesting and is becoming an issue is that unlike other democrats in marginal states where the president's approval rating has taken a hit, those governors have tried to distance themselves from obama. on the health care law, on a lot of the unpopular stuff. charlie has actually gotten closer to obama. he's someone who want obama to campaign with him eevep though it probably wouldn't be that helpful for him politically but that's their mentality. and because he is trying to shore up the democratic base for voters like the caller he has kind of praised obamacare repeatedly said it's great and that helped him shore up the democratic base but now that might make the difference with the independent call we are

heard from earlier. which is do you want an obama democrat who is a flip-flopper or rick scott the person you know host: from indiana now. dean. caller: yes. i was thinking if we didn't democrat independent or republican parties, these people just ran on their name and not on any democrat ticket or republican ticket, we just ran on their ideas, i think at people would vote for the person and also i think that every american should listen d watch the documentary on michael moore's documentary on sicko. and after these, all these

politicians leave, they're all ing to be working for -- you know, for -- trying to say, you know, for the stock market people. that's all i have to say. guest: thanks. well, on the no label thing, labels are helpful and you kind of have to put on a jersey in a lot of ways in these states. it's an organizing system with two parties. host: we have a couple comments rom twitter. guest: thanks. i think that's right in a lot of these places. you don't see any inspiring uplifting kind of messages these days especially in the final months. minnesota is my home state

where i grew up and i don't see the governors' race as competitive. i spent time around both candidates. jeff johnson the republican nominee. the poll showed that he is down double digits. mark dayton is not super popular but is going to win that race in the business community really hasn't stepped up on the republican side to help republicans win the minnesota state house which was a priority for much of this year and so it looks like he will win. al franken is also favored at this point although republicans nominated a fairly impressive businessman but he hasn't been able to make that race still double digits in the polls and there's a couple i want resting house races in minnesota actually. sturelt mills who minnesotaens will know is in a very competitive race with nick nolton in the upper part of the

state by lake superior so that's kind of fun to watch. but i don't expect any change at the governors' race or the senate level. host: another state we haven't gone into detail is kansas which you've mentioned a couple of times. senator jerry moran actually joined or will on sunday. here he is talking about kansas politics and governor brownback's race and why governors' races are different than senators' races in kansas. >> it's not that cansens are frustrated with republicans, it's that they're frustrated with washington, d.c. incumbents, a belief that the country is headed in the wrong direction and nothing is being done about it. >> how does that splarne governor brown gak? >> when it comes to gube toral campaigns, kansas is much more divided. when i say we haven't elected a democrat to the united states senate, that is true. we haven't done that since 19

32. we'd a number of democrat governors over the years. in fact it's a pretty rare thing that republican governors get reelected. i just think that when it comes to the governors race this is typical kansas having this bate about the role of state got. i think brownback wins the race. kansas is not going to be a democrat state in with the november election. but i think the dynamics of a governors race is significantly different than the dynamics of the senate race. host: your comments on the clip. guest: i'm covering both races very closely and they are different. the key for republicans to win in the senate race is to connect the independent candidate. sam can't really connect his democratic challenger to obama. these are stain issues that state issues. i think senator moran is right about that but republicans could lose both races. host: we have time for one last

caller and that will be from ohio on the democratic line. you have the last word for the segment. caller: thank you. there are only nine excuting states left. one is ohio. and therefore we want to get rid of governor casic who also has cut library funding five times while he has given increased money to teach children to kill animals with bows and air ost. he has sent virtually one half billion dollars back to washington and quashed our mass transit program while at the same time the health department promoting guard sill for cervical vaccines which is a drug which has destroyed the ovaries of countless women and killed dozens. guest: interesting you mentioned capital punishment there. obviously we're having a renewed conversation about it. there's been botched executions. but that's not really surfacing

in these races and it's kind of remarkable. it really isn't coming up in ads, not coming up on the trail. i think in a lot of these states the reason is capital punishment is still popular and no democrat wants to run against it. thank you for your question. ho more on the ebola outbreak with a look at the u.s. response at home and abroad. >> now our coverage of campaign 2014 camp -- continues but a live debate. the candidates are john lewis

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