the vote is leaning republican. we will get underway. we will get underway momentarily. >> the 2014 u.s. senatorial debate between republican shelley moore capito and democratic west virginia secretary natalie tennant. this debate is sponsored by news,west virginia metro west virginia press association, and west virginia public broadcasting. here is your moderator. ♪

>> good evening. i am pleased to welcome you inside the walker theater for this 2014 united states senate debate. tonight's event is presented by aarp and the west virginia press association. we welcome our viewers on c-span tonight. you have an opportunity to hear from the democratic and republican candidates in their own words as we discussed many of the issues important to west virginians and their families. tonight's debate includes an opportunity for you to be involved in the discussion by social media. secretary of state natalie tennant, the democratic candidate. in as the 29th secretary of state in 2009 and reelected in 2012. she attended wb you where she

earned her bachelors and masters degrees in represented the school as the first female mountaineer. she worked in west virginia television broadcast media for more than a decade and was a co-owner of the video production and media training firm she operated with her husband. they're the parents of a daughter. to my right is congresswoman shelley moore capito. she is serving in her seventh term as u.s. representative for the second congressional district. university andke the university of virginia. she's a senior member of the house transportation and infrastructure committee. prior to her election to congress, she served as a two-term member of the west virginia house of delegates. she and her husband charlie have three children and two grandchildren. each candidate will give -- get

two minutes to deliver an opening statement. you.ank thank you for moderating tonight's debate. i want to thank the sponsors of the nights debate. i want to thank secretary tennant for being here with me. most of all, i want to thank the reviewers and home. -- at home. west virginia is at a turning point. the the last six years, our economy has been under assault by the policies of president obama. date, folksled this who have lost their jobs, people who cannot pay their health care premiums. we clearly need a change in the united states senate. i'm running to be a senator from west virginia because i believe that west virginia's best days

are ahead of us. we have an enormous amount of natural resources. i think my plan will help us reach our potential here in west virginia. i will continue to fight for west virginia coal. i think we need to use our natural gas resources. we need to make sure that west virginia's citizens, older and younger, have the tools and the education they need for the 21st-century economy. a future where we will continue to have washington pick winners and losers or are we going to elect the senator who will stand up and fight for us? i believe i would -- i have the experience in a practical way of solving problems. virginia needs to work in washington needs to work

for us. i look forward to discussing these issues with secretary tennant in this debate tonight. most importantly, thank you to all of you at home for tuning in tonight. this race is about you. the congressman wants you to believe that this race is about washington politicians. i'm here to tell you that this race is about west virginia. not president obama, not harry reid. they are not on the ballot. every time you hear the congresswoman say something about harry reid or barack obama, i want you to ask yourself -- what is she hiding? she is having the votes she has taken to hurt you. you know me.

you know i grew up on a farm, the youngest of seven kids. you know my record. you know i will stand up to politics as usual in washington just as i have done in charleston. 2010, when three the critic officials tried to steal an election, i led the investigation to put them behind bars. i do not answer to a party. i answered to the people of west virginia. saved $3budget, i million and gave it back to the taxpayers of west virginia. the congresswoman voted to give taxpayer dollars to ceo's on wall street. she voted twice to give bonuses to ceo's while we were bailing out those banks. that is the difference in this race. i'm proud to be endorsed by the senator jay rockefeller, the united mine workers of america,

west virginia teachers from an afl-cio. i know what it is like to work a minimum wage job. i know what it is like to run a small business. i know it is like to send a husband to war. thank you for your opening remarks. the remainder of the seizing debate will focus on questions posed to each candidate on a rotating basis. there will be two opportunities for a candidate to pose 32nd challenge to the rebuttal -- a 30 second challenge to her bottle. -- two rebuttal. you will push back against the president and the epa on coal. we avert similar messages from the governor, congressman rahal,

-- ray hall. why should we believe that you will be successful as a new person in washington were members of your own party have not been successful question mark >> i did have that commercial and it got some attention from a lot of folks. that is what it was meant to do. whether the president believes it or not, coal is still 40% of electricity in this country in more than 90% here in west virginia. i have been endorsed by the united mine workers of america, the coal miners. they trust me to help savevirgi. their jobs. they know i have a plan to save their jobs and that is what i have done. i have challenge the president to invest to have retrofitting our coal fire power plants.

that is why the coal miners have endorsed me. they know that i will stand up for their health, safety, and their pensions. they know the congresswoman capito was the only member of the west virginia delegation to vote against the safety act. she voted to cut my new specters -- mine inspectors. they know i will stand up to the epa just as i did a couple of months ago when i marched through the streets with 6000 workers and electrical workers, marching against the epa and president obama. my response is that my opponent has supported the president putting west virginia's out of jobs. in hisported him twice election. she gave money to his inauguration.

i do not think while -- she went to washington to try to talk to the epa and came home. the explanation was we have a failure to communicate. we have passed a bill after bill in the house and the obstructionism of president is -- stoparry reid says at every point -- stop says that every point. the only way to change this is to change our voice in the senate. this administration is out to destroy us and our jobs. repeatedly failed -- talked about the job killing regulations.

figures from the bureau of business economic research show that in 2000, the year you were first elected, west virginia was 49th in per capita income. in 2013, we are still 49th. you blame the epa and this administration. hasn't there been economic stagnation? why should west virginians believe six years in the senate will be different than your 14 years in the congress? >> you have to account for the last six years. we have lost 7000 coal mining jobs. effect,o the multiplier that is 28,000 west virginians who are out of work. talk to the alpha miners. 1000 coal miners who have lost their jobs. will we see the policies that have moved forward, we have a

to ah care bill moving us part-time economy. 63% of those part-time jobs are .omen salaries are going down. expendable dollars are going down. we are spending more on energy, more on health care, because of the policies my opponent supports. and saysit here everything was rosy for the first eight years, but these last six years have devastated west virginia. said inesswoman capito her opening statement, we need a washington that works for us. years. been there for 14 that is why it is time to send me. as she sits here and tells you what she will do, what has she done? the coal miners know and are

behind me in this race. they have endorsed me. they know i will stand up for them. when she talks about these coal miners, did she talk to them and say she has hurt them? she has hurt their safety by voting against the coal mine safety act in the wake of the tragedy in 2010? she has voted to cut funding to the black lung benefits. coal?out patriot when patriot coal filed for bankruptcy, the coal miners rallied. i stood shoulder to shoulder with those retirees trying to fight for those health care benefits. where was the congresswoman? she was going behind their backs and taking checks from the patriot executives, the same ones trying to slash their

pensions. i will stand for the coal miners. the most important part of coal is the coal miner. yth mym nk this opponent keeps pushing forward. i have been a supporter of the ung --i joined to convince the president, who was going to cut the million dollars from the black lung program, the president my opponent has supported, i joined my fellow colleagues to do that. we continue on the economic front. but me get on regulations.

-- let me get on regulations. in an ad you ran last week, the announcer says, the financial services committee, shields bankers get rich. rich. helps bankers get she gave her husband inside tips and they made more than $100,000. you said that she personally benefited from her position in congress. what she did -- what she did -- what should she -- what did she do to enrich herself and her husband? are you implying she is corrupt? >> she broke the trust of west virginians. congresswoman capito serves on a committee that is supposed to oversee banks. at the same time protect customers and consumers. the charleston gazette had the

headline in black and white were it says, whether they are large or small, capito tends to side with banks. that is breaking the trust of west virginians. stated --magazine politico magazine stated that lobbyists say that she is there go to person. who is your go to person? i will be your go to person. i will stand up for you and your families. >> just a point of clarification, did she and her husband personally benefit from her position in congress? >> from her own financial filings, you can see that she made money. access toas information the regular west virginians don't have access to.

during the financial crisis, west virginians were losing their retirement, losing their savings, and their homes. the congresswoman was making money. >> these kinds of personal attacks from the unfounded, untrue, undocumented, and unable to have any kind of factual basis. the person she is using after factual basis as i was not at the supposedly and i did not have insider information. this is a desperate attack by desperate candidate who wants to shift the conversation away from jobs, education, health care, energy. i'm not surprised because i understand she will do anything and say anything to get elected. i've built 18 years of trust with west virginians. they know me and they know my

family. i don't appreciate my family being attacked. that is not a west virginia value. the personal attacks are despicable and i would like to ask the secretary tonight if she would stop with the nasty personal attacks and let's talk about the issues. first off, what is she talking about a meeting? i never mentioned a meeting. there is no mention of a meeting. i am not sure what she's talking about, that i think she just confirmed the congress has access the west virginians don't have. the center for public integrity called you wall street's secret weapon. sure, you want to stop the personal ads. i believe you are the one who begun the personal ads back in july.

>> your opponent has criticized you of being too cozy with the banks and financial industry. you say you voted against the bank bailout twice. you voted against the pay for performance act of 2009 that was aimed at controlling the excessive bonuses that bankers received while they were getting taxpayer bailout money. why should financial companies that made poor decisions and were saved by the taxpayers be able to reward bad behavior? >> when the big banks came knocking, i voted no twice. i was the only member of the west virginia delegation that voted no twice. .'ve been fighting this i also voted to tax any bonus that may possibly come forward at 90%. the bill you are talking about and the statements i made at the

time was a very broad-based bill. not just executives getting bonus, but somebody in a local office that might be administrative person. i did not think that was fair. they had no bearings and wall street debacle. i will defend the west virginia community banks and west virginia credit unions. we need to have a full financial system in the state that does not include big banks. it includes the ability to get a car, get a mortgage, go to school. i have looked out for our community banks and credit unions and west virginia and i will stand by that. said shesswoman capito voted twice against the bailouts. she is correct about that. they kept coming and they kept

coming and they knocked again and not only did she open the door, she left the door wide open and voted twice to give our ceo'ser dollars to those in the form of those bonuses. that is the distinction. i gave back $3 million and gave it back to the taxpayers. the congresswoman is giving money to the ceo's. let's talk about west virginia. west virginia's are suffering. they deserve a pay raise, too. why don't we increase in wage? -- minimum wage? >> you have argued for expanded unemployment benefits. economic experts agree that

extending unemployment insurance would be a boon for the economy generating economic growth and increase consumer spending. if that is true, why not extend jobless benefits for even longer to even more people? what is the economic principle behind your argument? >> when you talk about unemployed west virginians, i the workers in the northern panhandle who lost their jobs, the company was over across the river. i think about our unemployed. i am worried about are call minors who have received -- coal miners who have received those notices. they lost their jobs at of no-fault of the round. minors who havethey tried to --t of their own. whileeed a little help

they are trying to look for other jobs. it is an economic boost. it would bring $20 million to the economy of west virginia. congresswoman capito has blocked that. we have 16,000 west virginians who could use the unemployment extended insurance while they are looking for jobs. let's hope create jobs. let's create good paying jobs. we have all the possibilities to do that. whether energy resources that we have and the research and technology and our manufacturing know-how. that is why i'm earning to help support and for the high-tech manufacturing that we have in our community and technical colleges to work. >> when i think about unemployed workers, i think about the over 7000 coal miners at of a job. -- out of a job. i think about the rail workers, electricians. attributable to

the policies of president obama, harry reid, who are supporting my opponent. she may say the president is not on the ballot. guess what the president said the other day. every single one of my policies is on the ballot. it was his representative on the ballot -- who is his representative on the ballot? west virginians out of work know that and they will vote like that in november. --you and your career president obama called for a higher minimum wage and you said, i believe congress should debate whether the minimum wage should be raised again. in 2013, you voted against proposing -- against raising the to $10.10.e

>> i don't think we have had a direct vote. i did vote in 2007 to raise the minimum wage. to be a wage to raise your family's. to look at theed ramifications of raising the minimum wage. the state of west virginia took it upon themselves to do a ising of the minimum wage. i think studies show that if you raise the minimum wage, it could cost half a million jobs. i did say i believe we should debate this on the house floor and i think i would look favorably upon raising the minimum wage. farm, we are taught

that actions speak louder than words. you'll see a lot of this tonight. her vote says something different in washington. i will vote for an increase in $10.10 an hour because west virginians deserve that. she wants to give bonuses to our taxpayer dollars to ceo's on wall street. i want to give minimum wage increases to our working families. congresswoman says yes, we should have a debate. certainly, we should have a debate. what is congress doing right now? another vacation. congress is on a six week vacation. to campaign?

i don't know. certainly, we deserve the debate and we deserve congress to get to work. >> let's move onto foreign policy. president obama has ordered u.s. military campaign against the c.amic state you said in an interview with me, i am not forbids on the ground. i'm not for boots on the ground. can you define your line in the sand at which point you would support sending troops from west virginia across the country into harm's way? >> i do support whatever efforts it takes to keep america safe by using the fewest number of americans. onm not ready to put boots

the ground because i don't believe we have exhausted all of our resources and all of our options. as a wife who has sent a husband to war, i know that when we talk about boots on the ground, our national security, the men and women who serve in uniform. we can have all the technology in the world. our men and women in uniform are the bases of our national security. we have already had our first fatality in this war on isis with corporal jordan spears. his aircraft lost power. that is a tragic reminder that airstrikes or boots on the ground, it is still -- our men and women in uniform we must be

standing up and debating. you're asking me for a definite line in the sand. that is not an easy answer. there should be a debate taking place in congress. information,ll the i will be able to make that definite line in the sand dancer. >> sand answer. >> visual of isis be heading to americans and threatening to behead another and british journalists and aid workers, or it is just jarring to all of us. i think that because of the iraq,ent week policies in we find ourselves in a position where this terrorist group has been fomenting, raising money, raising membership. i find it frightening in terms

of what could happen on our homeland. that has to be what you think about. there is nothing more valuable for us as americans than our servicemen and women and i appreciate her husband's service to our country. i take these decisions very seriously. i did vote to have the president train the syrian rebels because i feel like we need a coalition of people that will stop the terrorist group from further growth. >> let's move onto health care. the house has voted over four dozen times to revamp, repeal, or tweak that law. today, there are about 140,000 additional west virginians who have health care through medicaid and 20,000 have insurance through the exchange. e.g. vote again to repeal --

would you vote again to repeal a ca? repeal andvote to replace. aca has some very good things about it. making sure people don't get caught without insurance for pre-existing conditions. keeping our students on until they're 26. i think that is a good thing. we need to keep what is good, replace it with what will work. get rid of the business mandate. make sure businesses do not have a 30% increase in their premiums. said, if you like your health care plan, you can keep it. that did not work out so well.

it was sold as a bill of goods. we are hearing about people losing their physicians, the doctor both of gone up -- deductibles have gone up. i wish we had worked together. i wish we had worked in a bipartisan way. >> your response? >> here she goes again. she says one thing and votes another way. she says she is for all of these things, but yet she has voted to repeal it. i won't vote to repeal it. i know what it is like to go without health care. i got her had open-heart surgery when she was a week old. many folks prayed for her and those prayers were answered.

she is a healthy, happy 12-year-old. when my husband and i started our small business, we wanted to buy insurance. i remember the day i came home and he said, i talked to the insurance companies. he said, they will cover me and you, but they will not cover delaney because of her pre-existing condition. i was devastated. what parent takes something that their child cannot have? i will never go back to the day when insurance companies can deny coverage for someone with a pre-existing condition. for her to sit here and say that she is for that, too, she has voted to take that away. security, we know the problems social security faces. you said you favored raising the

cap on income taxable for social security to make the program solvent. 2014 report says if you raised the payroll cap to do and $40,000, it would help, but she would not eliminate the actuarial imbalance. do you support more than doubling the cap on the taxable income? what specific measures do you support? supportive of raising the cap to 240,000. not quite that far yet. wage. raise minimum if you have more people getting paid, they will pay into social security. i will look at the people of west virginia and i will look into your eyes and this is what i tell you i won't do. i will not privatize your social security.

i won't take it and put in the hands of those on wall street so they can gamble it away. imagine what would've happened had that been done like congresswoman capito wanted to do before the financial crisis. she will sit here and tell you she has never wanted to privatize social security and she does not want to do it now. most recently as 2011, she voted to keep the option on the table for privatizing social security. actions speak louder than words. votes speak louder than words, too. she would take social security and she would privatize it. i will protect it and i will help to strengthen it. attack to this is an scare seniors in terms of social security. i've been in office for 14 years

and i have opposed privatizing social security on down the line. when he wroteyer, to president bush in 2004, he said republicans are against privatizing like cumbersome and shelley moore capito. i think we should bust the cap on the social security taxes. find solutions. if we don't, i have younger children. there will be no social security. we have to lay down the arms and work together and solve a difficult problem. in 2037, social security is going bust. for those workers now, it it will be a difficult future if we don't have the promises made or the promises kept. >> let me segue into medicare.

the republican-controlled house passed a paul ryan budget. that plan had a number of reforms to entitlement spending. overhaulinged for medicare to allow americans who turned 65 to choose between right insurance plans or staying untraditional medicare. do you support a partial privatization of medicare? >> i support reforming medicare and keeping medicare for future generations. i've been facing this in my own family in terms of trying to help senior care with my parents. the wrong way to go is the way the president has gone. my opponent has supported, a $700 billion cut to medicare.

thousands of west virginia and have lost their medicare advantage options. is home health care system being cut. inexcusable.is that is what secretary tennant has supported. we need to look at -- the budget you are talking about gives the options for seniors to stay in traditional medicare. if that is what you like, you can stay in traditional medicare . if you want to look at another anybodythis is not for 55 or older, it is for the younger generations. our children and grandchildren, there will be no medicare if we don't lay down the arms. stop the name-calling and the name tacked -- scare tactics. there is not enough of working

people to support the baby boomer generation. there is no one more serious about cutting the budget than i am. i've given money back to the taxpayers of west virginia. i will not allen's a budget off the backs of seniors -- balance a budget off the backs of seniors. budgets are about priorities. her priority is wall street. she talks about medicare and she talks a good game, but those dangerous budgets she voted for four times cut and make medicare a voucher program. you are on your own when it insurance with insurance companies. don't take my word for it. take the alliance for retired americans. this is the record, the lifetime score they give for the

congresswoman. she talks about being on the side of seniors. she has a lifetime score of 18%. right there is the proof. the state court ruled 5-0 that they aired -- the commission blatantly ignored the law. as actions of the commission well the state's chief election official -- you -- is both disturbing and unconscionable. why should west virginians have faith in your leadership? that int to make clear have stepped up. our office has absorbed the cost of reprinting the ballots.

this was a decision from the five-member bipartisan group of the state election commission. we looked at the evidence. we looked at the evidence out before us. we questioned, we asked questions. we made a decision based on the evidence that we had. the supreme court said we did not get it right. so we got back to work. we corrected the problem. i have been a good steward of the money for the people of west virginia. i have cut my budget and i have given $3 million back to the taxpayers. i've cut fees for businesses.

i have made it easier for our military members to be able to vote when they are deployed. i have gone after election fraud when we have seen it. when you're asking for a promotion, the first thing people want to know, how have you done in your last job was to mark the supreme court told the secretary of state that she got it wrong. it was obvious it was for political reasons. now she is saying the ballots will be reprinted. i am astounded at the explanation. we made a mistake. we are reprinting the ballots. it is october. if you talk about using the office -- let's talk about putting social security numbers

on your website. a conference call website -- number on your website. let's talk about reprinting ballots. this is not the first time we've had to reprint the ballots. your job is the chief elections officer and you are getting it wrong. >> congresswoman capito throwing out a whole lot of numbers and hoping that some of them stick. the number you need to remember is $3 million. she talks about the conference call. -- is persis late purposefully misleading you as citizens. it was from the board of physical therapy. i have a letter here and i will give it to you. it is a letter from at&t and it

says the conference call was their fault. they are paying the bill. the people of west virginia never paid it. >> i will hang onto it. to congresswoman capito. was auary 2011, there mass shooting in tucson that killed six people and wanted 14 others. -- when did 14 others. used a gun with a high-capacity magazine. the nra opposes any restrictions. can you make an argument for why an individual has the right to buy a hype capacity magazine -- high-capacity magazine? >> the second amendment state

and i'm a believer in the second amendment. i know gabrielle giffords. she is a remarkable individual. i know she is working hard every day. best wishes to her and to her husband. the mentaloblem is health system. we saw that at newtown, we saw that in arizona. the mental health system has failed us tremendously. that is why worked with my members of congress to get a mental health system to make sure those who should not have access to firearms, that should not -- should be disallowed from ever having access to anything -- any kind of firearm. we need to make sure that is coordinated with all of the different background checks and other things. we have seen that the virginia

tech shooting. that guy was in the mental health system as well. we cannot keep going like that. congressman murphy and i have worked hard to make sure we are coordinating the mental health system to make sure these types of incidences don't happen again. >> if you're a law-abiding citizen, you should be able to purchase a weapon. we want to keep guns out of the hands of terrorists, criminals, and those who have been deemed mentally incompetent. i grew up on a farm surrounded by guns with my brothers going hunting. i do not need the nra. many west virginians will agree

that they do not need an outside group to tell them how they stand with guns. i represent the second amendment. strong inong -- saying that west virginians have a right to have their guns. i myself have a concealed weapons permit and i have guns of my own. gun control legislation that expands background checks for sales at gun shows and the internet. you said you had questions about the bill. you've been out on the campaign trail and you've talked to a lot of people. to support or oppose the bill? >> west virginians should be making the choice of what they want to happen in west virginia. >> i oppose the bill.

i've opposed it all the way through. i think the secretary has had a change of heart recently. on.et me move holdsing up, the pentagon -- [no audio]

>> we are having a problem with our live coverage of the west virginia senate debate the train republican shelley moore capito and democratic challenger natalie tennant. here are some ads running in the state. >> we are losing our choice of doctors, a higher deductible, a higher premium. supportsy moore capito having your health insurance cover pre-existing on this is -- conditions. >> is going to get more expensive. this administration has put a big damper on our way of life and our love of freedom. i am shelley moore capito and i

approved this message. >> ♪ our daughter had open-heart surgery that saved her life. friends and family and folks all across west virginia trade with us, the insurance company called her a pre-existing condition. there is a lot i will do to make it better for west virginia. i won't ever go back to the days of letting insurance companies deny coverage to our children. i am natalie tennant and i approve this message. >> we are seeing politics at its worst. my opponent is attacking my personal integrity and my family. i am disappointed, but not surprised. misleading voters on purpose just to get elected is not a west virginia value. i will fight just as hard for my family as i have for all of west virginia. i am shelley moore capito and i

approve this message. >> i am natalie tennant and i approve this message. >> what do we really know about congresswoman shelley moore capito? she helps bankers get rich. in return, they have given her nearly $2 million. west virginians were losing their jobs and savings to wall street, she gave her husband, a wall street banker, or insider tips. congresswoman capito, she keeps getting richer and west virginians pay the price. >> we will continue now with our live coverage of the west virginia senate debate. the candidates are shelley moore capito and natalie tennant. >> the lines that have been put through and continue to add. when you talk about job

creation, you are exactly right, small businesses especially, just last week, and economist said our job creation is going to come through small businesses here in west virginia. i'm a small business owner, so i looked through the eyes of a small business owner in making decisions. that is why i cut fees in the secretary of state's office. what thehat to congresswoman has done. she has written legislation to raise fees on our businesses. every time you have a credit card or debit card and it is used, there is a charge associated with it. it is either the customer paying it or the business. as i travel around the state, i , these areinesses some of the words i hear. it is terrible. it is killing us.

it is our worst enemy. congresswoman capito champion this increase. wells fargo spent $6 million lobbying to raise those fees. she sided with wall street and wells fargo. the question.er i do not know how we got from internet to swipe fees. that was a predebate talking point. we need broadband. i am deeply disappointed. the trillion dollar stimulus did not result in a job creation. we saw what happened with some of the internet money that came in to west virginia. we have routers that nobody is using. small businesses could probably use that, but it was unusable. county,as in hampshire

they have hardly any connectivity. how will you draw people in the d c area if you do not have connectivity? passions.e of my >> you and your opponent have spoken out against the epa's regulations on carbon emissions. they are trying to reduce carbon emissions and get other countries to follow suit to save the planet. concluded,port icecaps are melting, water supplies are coming under stress, heat waves and heavy rains are intensifying. do you believe the scientists are wrong? if they are correct, don't we have an obligation to do something about it? >> it is weaving a balance between the economy and the environment is always difficult.

epa overreach is unbelievable. not one power plant in the state meets the parameters set out by the president, who my opponent supports his policies. i think -- what are we supposed to do? let's have something that makes sense. the president says we need to lead on this. if the president is leading the globe on this issue and china and india and japan and all the other nations are not following, he is just taking a walk. he is taking a walk at the expense of the men and women in the coal fields. .000 jobs and more to come this is a travesty. we have got to stop this.

>> do think the scientists are wrong? >> i don't necessarily think the climate is changing. we need to find a balance in changing this. without hurting the heartland of this country. listened to the scientists. i know there is a consensus and i don't disagree with them. at the same time, we do not need to choose between clean air and clean coal. i know that we have the technology that can meet the demand and that is why had challenged the president and the epa. we have a lab in morgantown that can develop carbon capture storage. i've challenge the president to use the $8 million in the department of energy and guaranteed loans that instead of using them as loans, take the money directly and have this technology that will save our

jobs and have technology used around the world that will make coal were competitive. that is why the united mine workers endorse me. >> we have about three minutes left. year, the supreme court struck down the section of the federal defense of marriage act. we have had all of these court decisions, one just yesterday. it is paving the way for same-sex marriages in west virginia. i think both of you oppose same-sex marriage. opposesupport or same-sex marriage? this.ave thought about i have prayed about this. i think about how do i want to be treated?

i tried to live by the golden rule. how do i want to be treated? i want to be treated equally and fairly. under the law, people should be treated equally and fairly. does the church go against this doctrine? not at all. we assessed virginians know about -- we as west virginians know about fairness and freedom. >> is that a support? >> is support for you quality and the law being equal under the law. >> my voting record and my personal belief is that my -- marriage is between a man and a woman. i believe the decision that has been made is saying the states will make their own decisions. i will abide with what the state of west virginia decides in this matter. hank you both very well.

it was a spirited discussion. good luck on the campaign trail. we have reached the end of our debate this evening. to the candidates, we want to thank them for their participation. the election date is coming up. >> the pentagon holds a briefing on military response to the ebola outbreak. update onor gives an the ebola patient in texas. debatearolina synod between -- synod debate the between kay hagan and tom tillis. that is followed by the colorado governors debate. >> a few of the comments we have

recently received from our viewers. >> you don't have to be an einstein to know the only way to keep ebola from coming in the united states is to have president demand that no one from africa be allowed to come into this country for at least the next 10 years until this ebola is eradicated. i cannot comprehend how people are so nonchalant about this ebola. i am so glad c-span put out this number for viewers to call in. >> look at what has happened. are you kidding me?