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spanwj. a tweet, @c to facebook.com/c-span. you can e-mail us, journal@c-span.org. tom friedman talked about the cdc rethinking their approach to ebola infection control. here's what he had to say. [video clip] "washington journal -- >> the existence of the first the of ebola spread within u.s. changes song things and does not change other things. we know how ebola spreads. it is possible to take care of ebola safely. wedoes change how approach it. rethink the way we address ebola infection control. even a single infection is unacceptable. host: dr. tom frieden talking

about rethinking the agencies approach to controlling ebola in this country. we are asking you, should congress increase public health funding in light of what we are seeing with ebola to address all public health issues? other pandemic are possible infectious diseases. we have a fourth line for doctors and nurses. .02-585-3883 phone lines are open. this is the front page of the washington times. bipartisan blame for cutting cdc funds. the feud over billions of dollars on ebola research. they put together a graphic. taking a look at a centers for disease control and prevention's funding over the years. feeding the beast. hasrnment spending on ebola

become a hot topic as republicans and democrats trade accusations that the other party star the cdc of funding that could have helped stop the outbreak. democrats say the gop cut ebola sending and republicans say president obama misdirected my to the affordable care act. the numbers suggest funding for the cdc branch that handles ebola has arisen, part of that comes from obamacare. about $52e of million. should congress increase public orlth for the cdc or nih other agencies? dr. francis collins on the talkedgton journal" about their efforts for vaccination over there. he quoted in the huffington post criticism at budget

cutters. saying his agency probably would've had a vaccine by now. the washington times says the nih statistics show the division that handles infectious diseases has seen funding chap from less than $1.8 billion in 2000.

those are some of the numbers for you. look at a budget of some of these agencies trying to combat ebola. bobby in columbia, maryland. a republican. what do you think? caller: the funding for ebola, for the cdc, was increased over $500 billion. is anot think funding problem. i think procedure should have been in place.

have had this done. there were procedures that were by thised in 2010 administration. i don't think this is about funding. i think this as an not getting somebody new to run the cdc. maybe a doctor or someone else. i do not think this person is doing a good job. i think funding is not the job, it is how the money is spent. friedman -- tom friedman is a doctor. caller: he's not doing a very good job. not to have procedures in place, it is nowrong. have procedures in place. you had generic procedures and you break it down to different diseases. he does not have that. host: dorsey and new york, democratic caller. >> i still say a lot of it is coming from the

other countries. even if they are checking in at the airport, you can have a fever two days later. they need to stop bringing people in here and spreading the disease here. host: you want to see that. what about increase in funding? caller: that would probably help. your main problem is they should not have let that man into this country to begin with when he was sick. it is by fluids, how did that nurse get sick when she was covered up in protective equipment? you must be able to catch it somewhere else. host: lots in the papers about how she was able to get the transmitted. also wanted to show you the washington post op-ed section. a piece written by the executive

director of the national nurses united. the largest union for nurses. "not ready for ebola" in the washington post. she also rates -- canada,untries, notably which adjustable vulnerabilities after the sars epidemic, has empowered public health agencies to coordinate. itsu.s. cut funding for already weak system. federal funding for preparedness and response was when billion-dollar less in fiscal 02.r 20 13 than 20

august, andas inspector general report concluded that the department has no assurance has sufficient personal protective equipment and antiviral medical pandemicasures for a response. we know what works, a federal agency with the authority to ensure local, state, and national coordination in response to outbreaks. local health officials are assured of having resources. let's go to san rafael, california, republican caller. help me with your name. as simple as it sounds, where the u.s. to think we do not have the ability to fight off ebola is

absurd. when is the head of the cdc not going to say they need more funding? the last caller said it perfectly. -- you justink cannot give more money to the situation. don't think money is the problem. we need to get careful and who to be carefuleed in who we let into this country. tomorrow, california, republican. what do you think? caller: i agree with the previous callers. it is how the money is being allocated. in the washington post article, it is talking about policy decisions more than funding levels. dr. frieden needs to step down. he's doing an abysmal job. we need to stop traffic between west africa and the u.s. sites ino set up ebola

this country. communities need places where ebola patients can go. a single case of enterovirus -- a single case of ebola all that shuts down a hospital. the healths under and human services agency. another agency should take this over like homeland security? should there be a different agency that takes us over? not only a person, but a different agency? caller: i think hhs is the right agency to run the cdc. the cdc is not being properly run and dr. frieden should step down. host: this is from the new york times. the democratic response has just begun. bob casey of pennsylvania released a letter demanding more money for the hospital preparedness program.

. gives you an idea of the money that has been allocated for training hospitals in this country. democrat bob casey from pennsylvania giving the numbers out. saying this has not been funded adequately. a democrat in missouri. what do you think? more funding? is not the issue. they should give the facilities to fight ebola.

it is like a filter system with a hole in it. they are not doing something right. cecelia, illinois, independent caller and a nurse. good morning. caller: you are looking lovely as always. i'm calling because we really do need to do a lot. money at this would be epidemic. we do not know how long the cars is going to live on surfaces. nurse could take is that pushing her glasses up or she may be did not double glove and taking off and doesn't have a second pair of gloves on.

she could touch anything and that would spread to we have supporters, all these people coming in. just doing a temperature from where they embark to here is not outbreak.stop the it helps a little bit. not symptomatic. look at the guy, thomas eric was in dallas. he had a fever and they sent him home because mistakes happen. they do not have the hazmat suits, which you need with the phone when you have something so virulent. host: your nurse? a nurse for 26en years. mosley and cardiac care but i did public health as well. host: what do you make of national nurses united? are you part of that? caller: not anymore.

but i stand behind their statement. toe had to have cuts in pay keep my job. because there were so many people who did not have insurance, hospitals would lose money or cause. they are trying to get by on the cheap. the problem is that they did not throw money at ebola when it was emergingafrica, first for the 2014 season. we cannot play catch up now. host: let me ask you this. we referenced this earlier. in august, the inspector general put out a report about dhs and its preparedness for a pandemic. is not ready for it. take a look at this picture from the inspector general's report. ofs is one of 432 pallets

covered suits the dhs stockpiles in their warehouse. the inspector general rights there no justification or documentation. available to support the coverall suits were necessary. below that, the department has million inventory of 16 surgical masks without demonstrating a need for that quantity of masks. look at the warehouse. you have the department did not develop alternative use our location plans for its stockpiles. department's entire respiratory stockpile has reached or will soon reach the of guaranteeddate usability. the entire stockpile will not be usable after 2015. during site visits, they of pandemic stock

ppe includes 200,000 respirators that are beyond the five year usability. stockpiles include expired hand sanitizer as well. ,982 bottles, 84% are expired, some up to four years. what you make of this? caller: that is really sad commentary on our country and how we view public health. out in my mask and gloves now if i'm going to be around groups of people. i have a very low chance of catching ebola from anybody. for me, it is better to be safe than sorry. this thing is going to spread like wildfire. host: why do you think that? there are articles saying that is not likely. say.r: that is what they

we do not know how many people just going to the er and that time, sitting waiting area. we do not know how many of those contacts infected other people. then we do not know how many people are infected by the nurse, how many people did she take care of besides mr. duncan? how long was he symptomatically was it only two days? to your point about how many infected, take a look at banner.ington post up to 70 exposed, that is what the cdc said. potentially worried about 70 people that had been in contact with thomas duncan at the dallas hospital. they are tracking that. of the the banner page

huffington post. loretta and ohio, independent caller. should congress increase funding and light of ebola? caller: now. one of the health department had to run a test that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. the result was the test they were doing was that women who went to bed angry have more stress. why spend all that money on tests like that that do nothing and ask for more money? it is the way they are spending the money. wasn't dr. freed the same man the dangerous viruses in a refrigerator or something? they just caught it lately. host: he's been testifying about that. caller: i thought so. they do test, study. if you go to bed mad, you have more stress.

why spend hundreds of thousands of dollars, foolishly. it's like any other agency. they waste so much money. that does nothing. like what you are saying about the expiration on the supplies. moneyuld get them all the in the world and all they are going to do is put it in a rathole. host: about the inspector forral report, the supplies a pandemic emergency response were bought in 2006. $46 millionpending in 2006 to prepare for some sort of pandemic. appropriated for these stockpiles that we told you about. cambria heights, new york, democratic caller. caller: thanks for taking my

call. do not necessarily think the agency should be a lot more money. said, morecallers money does not necessarily take care of the problem. what they need is standard operating procedures. have they should designated hospitals where and testwho have ebola positive, they should be sent specifically to one hospital. host: bloomberg is reported that dedicated ebola hospitals are sought after the nurses infection. officials want to set up ebola hospitals in each state after a nurse tested positive. itscdc is reconsidering

infection control protocol and will boost health worker training with a series of calls and online seminars. they will be holding one of those conference calls to date with health care officials. -- today with health care officials. rethinking the protocol for ebola infection control. justin in ohio, republican. caller: i'm not a republican, i'm a democrat. i guessed i called the wrong line. host: no worries. caller: if the money is spent wisely, it's a good thing. as far as the decaying products, doesn't that go back to the anthrax scares and different biochemical weapons we were worried about during the war? lives, wes are shelf have medicine in our house that is no good.

if the funds are spent rate it is important. if there's oversight and people , i'me field that protect all for it. there has to be some other site. that's all i have to say. one other comment. maybe you can ask this. saweems to meet last week i an article about how they prepare zmapp with leaves and plants. it will take two months for them to come up with a new product. -- who ishe woman contaminated now --that is available to her. it was not available to mr. duncan. is it going to be available to the nurse? host: yeah. caller: it is? host: i don't know. caller: can you ask that question?

it is available for the nurse and spain and other people in the country. i'm curious about that. host: dr. francis collins, the head of nih was our guest recently on the "washington journal." he talked about zmapp and where it is, they have run out of supplies. he talked about the process for making this treatment. eenr question i haven't s anything recently about that. , youblic health spending brought up responding to other and mx that have come up over the years and other countries. public health the emergency preparedness funding over the years. in 2001, $1 billion. $1spiked in 2006 to over billion. $585 back down in 2013,

million for public health emergency preparedness. this is from figures from the cdc and local and state readiness budgets by scientific american. the washington post has this a u.s. dr.brantly, infected with ebola this summer while treating patients in liberia. he went to the dallas hospital on sunday and donated his blood for the nurse. the hope is that giving an ebola victim and injection from a survivor could deliver antibodies. brantly was later released. the third time he's donated blood since recovering from ebola. he gave blood for another infected american doctor as well cameraman, both of whom were treated in nebraska. offered to donate blood

to duncan, their blood types were not a match. the nbc cameramen tweeting he is doing well and getting strength. david, ohio, republican caller. caller: good morning. the issue of spending more money, i do not agree with that as well as the previous callers mentioned. that they spend money on grants to study why lesbians gain weight or why to put shrimps on treadmills or to stress on chimpanzees and how that affects cocaine use. it boils down to a priority of how they spend their money. hospital for 30 years as a purchasing director. if i had inventory that was going to out of date on such

strategic supplies, i would have lost my job in a heartbeat. why these people can't seem to suffer a consequence for their internet mess, i cannot understand. i don't think throwing money at is going to solve the issue. as the previous caller said, they need a ban on travelers except medical personnel from that part of africa. we need to look at what happens when it comes across the southern borders. it just seems like nobody has really put a plan in this. the issue ofght up should it be placed under the department of homeland security -- lord, no. they've proved their anin eptness with everything else. host: what you think about john

mccain calling for an ebola czar? caller: czars are not what we need. we need people that know what they are doing. e-jerk reactions when something happens and we see it start to get out of hand. all of a sudden, everybody comes up with a knee-jerk, naming a czar. from what i've read in the news, i think a caller alluded to it, obama administration cut some programs in dealing with these issues. host: are you referencing bobby jindal's piece in politico. the obama administration redirected some funds that were

within cdc. caller: i didn't see the politico article. was may have been wahhat referenced. put: the washington times together a piece about both sides blaming each other and they took a look at the numbers. both sides are not exactly right on who cut what. caller: not surprising. this is the washington post about reaction from the white house. the white house said monday that president obama met with members of the national security team to discuss the situation in texas. and sylvia mathews burwell detailed the personnel and resources that have been sent to dallas.

the new york times reporting about reaction to ebola. city,rry spread to kansas kansas, where a medic who had coast,on the african shut up with a fever -- showed up saying he had had a fever. that's the reaction in louisiana. you have this from abc's website.

with the headline and cabin cleaners strike over ebola exposure fears. notly 200 cabin cleaners off the job at new york city airports overnight. involved cabin cleaners in terminal d at laguardia airport. tony in california, you are on the air. should congress be increasing funding? big question. i'm reflecting on when i was an emergency medical technician at the beginning of aids then later during the arizona hot to hantavirus. , had there nots been a lot of money thrown at those diseases, we would have

been in serious trouble. aids first came on the scene, medics did not use they didn't have to mouth. it was not until research came out and someone developed the rebreather mask. the big player for us was oshaa. they stepped in with guidelines .o protect us we were restricted to lead our , not use any lipstick. they were still telling moms

they could breast-feed their babies because it could not be passed in breast milk. if we hadn't have started hitting that hard, we did too late -- host: what do you make of ebola, need dedicated hospitals. or that that person is transmitted to one of the 4 hospitals that have successfully treated ebola. caller: it's the same situation as aids. until we know every way a person can contract that we are in trouble. host: the cdc has laid out the ways. caller: they thought they did with aids, too. they did not know you could get it through breast milk. host: to the point of dedicating certain hospitals or transmitting patients to the four hospitals that have treated ebola patients, the wall street

journal has this about hospital. it took a team 26 medical staff to treat kent brantly. it takes a staff of 26 for that alone. it goes on to say -- the people at emory have been training for 12 years to treat ebola patients. the biocontainment unit has a withat emory of 40 workers 5 or 6 at a time caring for one ebola patient.

ebola becoming campaign fodder during this election season. wall street the journal. "crisis becomes fodder for season." one democratic group put out and at, the agenda project has put together this online ad about funding for ebola and the role republicans have paid. [video clip] >> washington can cut spending. >> the cdc says discretionary spending has been cut. >> less government. >> cut. >> our budget has been flat since 2003. responding to an infectious disease threat, this has been threatening. >> the nih saw its budget

slashed. >> cut, cut, cut. >> there are outbreaks happening we are not able to prevent. >> cut. >> cut. >> cut. >> cut. >> make a cut. host: about this ad, the wall street journal reporting the video is only online now. a spokesman said a television campaign will begin next week in kentucky, where mitch mcconnell is battling alison lundergan grimes. it will run later in north carolina, south dakota, and kansas. response --

the senator's campaign said it ineffectual it should be paired with an apology. response is that the administration has moved around money for the cdc. john, independent caller. caller: good morning. host: go ahead. should congress increase funding? caller: no. it needs more funding but it needs to be done through reallocation. we waste funding in other areas. callers have pointed it out. i've been in the budget process in dod years ago. i know how a crisis comes along and the media solution is to pour money.

you get a lot of waste and abuse. it's the priorities of where you are going to spend the money. for instance, how much money are maybe just for pr purposes, to make people feel measuring the temperatures of people who get off the planes. they say that if you do not have , you're not going to get it or you cannot pass it on. we we are spending money, have to check all these people. i do not see where that is going to make a big difference. the money you are wasting their could be reality to spending other money. i would like to make a comment

about centers. i think there should be centers. you still have the problem of when they first start feeling willf they have ebola they lock into any hospital. what do you do? does hospitals are not set up -- not set uptals are properly. yesterday on cnn they had a program on the type of protective gear the hospital in dallas has. skin was exposed. when you compare the picture you just showed of the hospitals teamsre prepared and have of 50 people, they are completely covered. that's expensive. host: right. caller: there needs to be more money. i don't think we need to throw money. it needs to be reallocated. host: there's money being spent for the military to combat ebola

in west africa. this is from the atlantic. the american mission in liberia it will take 4000 troops and cost $750 million. it could last more than a year. that is from the atlantic.com. anthony, colorado, democratic caller. go ahead. youer: i would like to say should not increase funding. you should put a chattel ban on western african countries -- you should put a travel ban on western african countries. the countries of west africa and countries that allow travel from west africa. host: chris, maryland, republican. caller: thanks for taking my call. hear me out. to the u.s.nsultant government for 15 years.

to john mccain's point about a czar. there was a great article, i think it was bloomberg, how fragmented all of the bio and ebola-type research is across the agencies. different agencies touch different things. summary has got to get their arms around that. host: vaccinating and treating it or across the board, preparedness, etc.? there are different components. there is an operating division at hhs doing preparedness. you have dod. fed cio ise the old giong -- is going to go. a lot of fragmented activity. host: i don't think people know

this. foreign, an agency secretary in charge of the ebola response in africa as part of our foreign aid assistance. this person is in charge of overseeing what we are doing in africa to combat it. caller: that's correct. then you have the dod doing their own research. as far as looking for funding, let's take nih. emergency, what do you do? you cut back and handle the emergency. moreo not go look for money. nih has $41 billion in funding. a lot of that goes to grants. look at how the grants are spent thatay if we have things

our current risks right now, let's shift the funding to current risks like ebola. as opposed to keeping basic research when we don't know where they are going. we need the reality of funding. got 27 institutes doing their own thing because of their allegiances to different universities, that is a great place to look for how do we really optimize the costs? the washington times reports this about the cdc. they put together this graphic. the cdc budget suggests moderate republicans or democrats have it right. ebola falls under the national center for emerging and zoonotic disease branch, whose funding has grown $100 million. $52 million of that is from obamacare. that is where they come up with that number. at cdc, thedivision

emerging enzymatic infectious disease -- the emerging and zoonotic infectious disease branch. caller: i'm a phd in biophysics. biotechnology group that worked on targeted antibodies to kill disease cells ithout affecting normal cells. you're talking about $20 million or $200 million. oft you need is a new family targeted antibodies to handle any other diseases that occur. instead of spending $20 billion on ukraine, which is just lost money.

$20 billion should be taken to the major universities, mayo clinic and the rest, and have a shock and awe of funding for these universities. controlledses can be or eliminated. host: usa today with the headline u.s. lacks a si ngle standard for ebola response. as thomas duncan's family mourns, a series of missteps. who was in charge of ebola response? there is not one person or agency. there is not a single national response.

we will go to bob in florida. republican caller. caller: thank you for allowing me to be on c-span. -- as at response, first response team member, one thing i realized is that maybe we should have a title -- a total ban on travel from those countries. othertoes and flies and rapids can also cause

transmission from one to another. , their thing , the thing is, and a lot of times it takes 5, 10, or 20 minutes for disinfectant to work to kill ebola. pass this on. dr. tom frieden took a lot of heat on sunday for comments he made about the dallas nurse getting infected. saying it was a breach of protocol. nurses and others felt he was blaming the nurse. here's what he had to say. [video clip] i spoke about a breach in protocol. that is what we speak about and public health when we are talking about what needs to happen. our focus is to say with this protocol -- our focus is to say what this protocol ha

ve prevented the infection. as findingreted fault with the hospital. people on the front lines are protecting all of us. people on the front lines are fighting ebola. ebola. the enemy here is a virus, it is not a person, country, place, or hospital. it is a virus that is tough to fight. i am confident that we will stop it. we need to all take responsibility for improving the safety of those on the front lines. host: dr. tom frieden at the atlanta cdc headquarters yesterday addressing the pushback he received for saying there was a breach of protocol. getting your thoughts on whether or not congress should be increasing funding for public health. on twitter, one of our viewers is weighing in at about the

dallas nurse being infected. at least none of the family of thomas duncan have contracted ebola. they are almost out of the 21 day window. withy who had contact thomas duncan when he was in the apartment has shown any signs of ebola. nbc's medical correspondent nancy snyderman, who was in west africa and possibly exposed to ebola. she was under voluntary isolated when her and her team returned. she was seen outside a new jersey restaurant, in the car, picking up some food. the new jersey health department put her and her team into a mandatory isolation. on monday, she put out a statement apologizing for breaking that. saying as a health professional i know that we have no symptoms

and pose no risk to the public. i am sorry for the concerns this episode caused. putting out a statement monday night. others are looking at nigeria and how they were able to combat ebola. the "financial times" has a story.age a lesson for the west in battling ebola. inside the financial times, they emergency presidential

decree enable officials to access mobile phone records and empowered them to lean on law enforcement agencies where necessary to track down people at risk. that is how they were able to combat ebola. they are almost clear. they are within days of being clear. a week short of being cleared, ebola-free. dorothy in ohio, democratic caller. caller: i do think it has to do with a lot of the protocol. every nurse and doctor in the u.s. and in every hospital should be properly trained to handle how they go about dealing or a personatients suspected of having it. another thing that bothers me is that this blood plasma is being

, youto help combat this already have for cases where blood plasma was used in some form. bloodk those people's types need to be out there. so if a person does have that blood type, they can automatically know that one of people who have healed from this could use that blood type. my blood type is o positive. rare form. is a when you do not know the blood type of the person, just like the nurse who got infected, we don't know what her blood type was. there are reports this morning that one of the doctors that was successfully treated for ebola has given a transfusion, donated his blood to the nurse in dallas.

to do so ford thomas duncan but their blood was not a match. he has so far done this three times, donated blood since recovering from ebola. two other people who have the disease. exposurebit about the that health officials have to this disease from the new york times. ebola patients lose enormous amounts of fluid from diarrhea and vomiting, 5 to 10 quarts a day during the worst phase of the illness, which lasts a week.

that is from the new york times. should congress increase funding for public health in light of ebola? toe other news before we get more of your calls. the new york times front page this morning. a symbolic vote in britain .ecognizes a palestinian state the outcome of this bill, 270 4-12, was not binding on the british government. the latest evidence of how support for israeli policies, even among allies, has given way to more calibrated positions and in some cases opposition. that on the front page of the new york times. inside the new york times, the upshot: it is taking a look at fight forgn 2014

control of the senate. a republican majority in the senate is starting to look likelier. he puts the chances at 68%. we talk more about campaign between 14 coming up on the "washington journal." we told you that turkey had agreed to the u.s. using basis racetracks. -- using basis for airstrikes. turkey said they did not. they have allowed the u.s. to ases for other things, they've not allowed to allow the u.s. to use bases for airstrikes. some other headlines this morning. next to that in the washington post, the islamic state seizes another iraqi base. post thise washington morning. we will go to justin in connecticut. independent caller. good morning. caller: how are you doing?

say, i doould like to not think throwing money at the the best thing to do. the first thing i would say crisise quarantining the . all would entail stopping airlines and all leaving those countries. the possibility of more people going to different countries. and that deadly disease spreading throughout the world. host: ok. randy and i look, democratic caller. i think that they show

to restore some of the funding that was cut to the cdc. that pharmaceutical companies, it is almost like in order to make money they are holding back research and they progress forack cures. the federal government has a role to play in this. it has been crippled through all was left behind by president bush and his administration. theent through this in creation of homeland security, 2002-2005. when they equipped first responders and fire departments in case of a terrorist attack. they borrowed all that money and did not pay it back. they had tax cuts and sent jobs overseas and outsourcing and all that stuff, no child left

behind. we are in that situation where we have to worry about dollars being spent instead of common sense and looking forward to the future. this stuff happens and we have to be prepared. think we are stumbling over the republicans' inability to legislate effectively. their disrespect towards our government, at times, in the way that we have done things in the past. it upsets me. have a great day. host: you too. we will have to leave that there. we will talk up with ilyse hogue of naral pro-choice america. abortion aref playing out in campaign 2014. we talk with russell moore of the southern baptists convention. evangelicals

in the election. first, in the debate in the kentucky senate debate between mitch mcconnell and alison they talkedimes, about the role of government. take a look at their exchange. [video clip] >> i do believe government has a place to help make the lives of kentuckians better. we are a superpower in the world. objectives. to advance our economic interests and to protect our homeland. that does not mean that we have to be the world's police. wehink we have worked out need to do with battles right here on our home front. kentucky, they include helping to put thousands of kentuckians back to work who, under senator mcconnell, 30 years in washington, they have found themselves in dire circumstances. unable to put food on the table and gas in the cars. it begins by making sure that

the women as kentucky get equal pay for equal work. something. senator mcconnell has been against. it is making sure that our seniors, my grandmother, that they have a senator who strengthens and protects medicare and social security. and our veterans have someone -- >> you see that as the role of government? >> a senatorhave to have that knows kentucky through and through, not one that is out of touch. one that knows the people of kentucky are struggling. hasqual pay for equal work been the loss of the civil rights act of 1964. the job of the senator in my view is to protect, to the maximum extent possible, to this great country. -- the framework

involves making sure people realize their ambitions. that means too much government can frequently be a deterrent to opportunity. that is something we have to , debt and taxes. what it does is depress the economy. in the senate, there is an opportunity to check jobs almost every day. the cleanup that the diffusion plan, the new diversion build there, all about a guy you are looking at here. over here in richmond, the chemical weapons arena is the people,ndreds of

stepping in this year, when they a little fish was endangered by raising the water level and solving that problem so we can get tourism up and running this year. it is a combination of attacking the opportunities people have to better their lives and create virtually weekly basis , appropriating funds that create job opportunity. senator mitch mcconnell squaring off in last night's first and only debate for that kentucky seat, part of our campaign 2000 14 coverage on c-span, bringing more than 100 debates for control in congress. --j we will continue we will continue tonight.

c-span two. that on we will turn our attention now to campaign 2014. thank you for being here. what is the role you are playing ? we have seen so much terrible antichoice legislation in the house and we are also focused on the governors races. that is really where we are seeing a lot of the damage done in this country. there is a lot of energy out there. host: what is happening on the state level? guest: since 2010, we have had a houses that are

restricting contraception, restricting a woman's right to choose when and how and with whom she has a family. both of these are coming through these statehouses. seven in 10 americans support legal access to abortion. we only have governors for support. we are just seeing the constitutional right shrink and shrink at a state level. not only of what it represents nationally on all these issues, for 2016.hat it means >> what sorts of resources do you have? how many people? is it money? how do you do it?

we do contribute to campaigns where elected officials carry our values forward. the world of post-citizens united politics, there is a lot to contribute for politics. done it in colorado and wisconsin and minnesota. whenf the things we see is their words become so crazy, -- who will take enough time to come with me and make sure the truth gets out. >> it is a little over 300,000. how do you get your message across? people spend money for a reason.

because it works. >> absolutely. we have been able to run very sophisticated programs that goes right to the voters we know make a difference in these elections. enormous number of voters who believe senators in the cases are focused on wrong priorities, when they spend their time and energy and political capital restricting rather thances, actually job creation, for example buried we have done sophisticated mail programs, and we are on the phones every day funneling our members into these , good old politics, making sure these politicians records are exposed. they cannot hide from the issues. and they have to answer the question. we went to wisconsin with an advertisement about seconding --

setting the record straight. he has done more to restrict legal access to abortion and many governors in the country. he is trying to back away. he went up and said, no, it is ok, i will let you choose. we had one of the members in wisconsin who wanted to set the record straight. we went up with that advertisement today. >> what are you doing? number of measures dealing with personhood. explain that and how you are trying to push back. >> there are three ballot , oneres about personhood in tennessee, one in north dakota, and one in colorado. these are extreme antichoice , granting the same legal rights as full citizens here. many of these measures if not

most all common forms of contraception that completely outlaw entirely. they interfere with interview different.s not that we are trying to get that truth and information to voters, particularly voters who might be motivated to go to the polls if they know what is at stake. it is television advertising. a lot of it is door to door and it takes a little while to explain these things. >> are you concerned president obama's popularity is a drag on getting democrats who are pro-choice out to the polls? year like this, republicans tend to vote more than democrats. >> i am not so concerned about president obama specifically as i am about overall congress as a whole.

for both parties. i think that does make it a bit of a challenge to get people to go to the polls to vote. you have voter suppression laws and you have to go to people and say, it is ok. but i do think people are engaging more at the state level. that has been my feeling. their understand the role governor has. that is heightened now. know aree things we that the issues we work on, contraception, the fundamental right of women to make decisions about how we have families and those are driving issues. we know they go to the polls here that is our focus. we do it through phone calls and door to door.

that is how we incentivize people to get to the polls. going to politicians obsessed with abortion, you say. guest: absolutely. said the sameave about tom udall, democratic colorado. his campaign, he is talking about women's access to birth and access to abortion. the sender is on the right side of the public on this one. there are a couple of issues with that narrative. we are seeing more international press than being in colorado. one is that women's access to our own health care decisions is not a single issue. you're talking about an issue that, if we cannot make our own choices, there is no such thing as economic equality, no such

thing as job security, if we cannot have access. what the voters of colorado understand is that this is a fundamental issue, different than a single issue. what our ads seek to point out is you have governors like governor brown who has literally pursuing entire tenure an ideological agenda to outlaw those choices for women at the of other priorities in the state like the education system, like jobs creation. hashe extreme that he actually spent over $1 million in taxpayer money defending his laws, which are at laws with most people. we're talking about women's issues in campaign 2014. the president of nave i'll pro-choice america, ilyse hogue. --

here he iste in becoming a new type of republican, most creating an example when it comes to women's issues. guest: he will say whatever to get to office. he still has his name on federal which would outlaw contraception, and yet, on the flip side, he is saying we will make contraception available over the counter. the fda has not even said that is possible yet. i think he is trying to confuse voters. and also not discuss the fact that if he could even records -- reconcile those, which is almost impossible to do, he is still

asking women to pay twice. there is still an economic penalty for women who would have to buy birth control over the counter when in fact it should be covered by our insurance. i see that as a very old style of outfits to pander on both sides and get elected and pursue your own agenda. the washington post this morning -- - host: can he? guest: i think he can. it is a challenge, it is a challenge to make people feel like their vote matters. i think he really well. womenk that point that make the difference in colorado is something we see all over the thetry, which goes back to

problem of defining our fundamental health care satiate -- issues, our fundamental decisions about family reading -- family rearing. it affects over half of the population in a way that links to everything else in our lives. >> is the strategy working to focus on women? when you have a tight race in colorado and wisconsin for the governor's race. it is tight in kansas as well. in florida, the republican is up in the polls a little bit. is it a strategy that is working? i do not think people will know until election day. you cannot win without women. meansg women to the polls appealing to the fundamental things that matter to us in daily life here it that does mean family planning and legal to abortion. that is not all it means. pay,ll talk for equal those things go hand-in-hand. we cannot have economic security

without reproductive health. host: robert is waiting, and independent. caller: good morning. when you have to say the liberal politics -- policies have brought ebola here? we will move on. that is not our topic here. outside of washington, a republican caller. caller: thank you for taking my call. i support women. i feel terribly sorry for women who are pregnant and did not want to be pregnant. and yet, so many times, everyone is told the easy answer is to have an abortion. i know planned parenthood would support that. i wish those organizations would really start putting out the truth that there is really no such thing as having protected sex without consequences. there are dire ones. when was the last time a woman

gave birth to a toaster oven? never. it is always a human being. some live longer than others and some are smarter than others, but always, from the moment of conception, it is a human being. it is the way that things go, unfortunately, that in order for that to survive, the woman must carry that life for its time. that is quite a burden and i recognize that. ok.: jump in. guest: thank you for the question. there are a couple of pieces to what you said. we also support accurate sex education. all of the studies show that abstinence only sex education does not actually work. it increases on intended pregnancy rates. i think robert feels the way

many feel. i think that is legitimate. sex outside of procreation, constance szczecin, abortion. what most people agree on, which is critical, is that they would rather their family retained that decision in conjunction with their own faith and dr. rather than people telling their families what to do. our phone minds are open. i'll in with your comments or questions. charles, a republican in tennessee. nice to hear from you, c-span. the republicans, we do not really care. i mean, i do not understand. let women call in if they have not been able to get an abortion. are there children that were supposed to be aborted? that women had to take care of

them? access is a very big problem right now. home state of texas has seen almost all of the clinics close with legislation that came to the statehouse in the court decision last week. we are seeing women all over the being prevented from easy access to abortion. some of them have to travel 400 miles round-trip just to get basic health care and access to abortion services. have seen in texas is that means 7% of women who need abortion -- the point thats when abortion is illegal or difficult to access, the number of abortions do not go down. the number of injuries to women do go up. we are on the precipice of that

in our country. we have seen more restrictions than in the early 70's. >> what is your priority list for them? we have got legislation introduced into both houses. that is modeled on the civil rights and voting rights act, which would address some of the state attacks on reproductive health and reproductive freedom. it would say no woman should be punished because of her zip code and where she lives in terms of access to abortion and contraception. priority. be our and the will of american people is not being served by these extreme governors in extreme statehouses. for us, butriority as i said, we are really focused in the states on undoing some of the damage done in the last few

years. >> legally, do you see another route as the hobby lobby decision? do not know.y, i we are definitely pursuing the state based decision spared in a number of different states, it is still live in the vote chambers and at the federal level. i do think we will see more court cases. i think we will see cases coming up from the states. guaranteesution access without undue burden. certainly, most people, including myself, believe there is a significant undue burden put on women seeking constitutional rights right now. host: a republican, you're on the air. male birth control? birth i think male control is fabulous. anyone who has any building to

access any family planning tool means that every child is a wanted child, that every life being lived is empowered, which is what we care about. if you have access to family planning and women around the world, we see that not only do but individually thrive, families and communities and even countries thrived with better access programs. colorado, independent caller. what do you make of the senate fight in your state? and the access to birth control, personhood, amendments, and etc. ? ? caller: i wanted to say, all the races, it is working for them, or it appears to be. because i saw the debate that c-span aired and when the

for the issue of cory gardner's initiative in congress, hr 182 or 1082 or something, he denied the whole thing. but i have read the bill that he .rought up he wanted to criminalize. you know, he lies about everything and people know it. it is hurting him. so i agree with mark udall in the congressional race. host: you are an independent. have you voted for republicans before? caller: i have. when i was in the army, when promised to end the

draft, i voted for him. i do not mind saying that. i am a true independent and i have been all my life. host: is this enough of an issue as an independent, the issue of access, nothing of access, nothing that issue to sway you tour the democrats? i have a wife and a daughter and two granddaughters. i know what this means to women. it is not just abortion. it is other women's issues that pertain to them. caller ishink the resonating a feeling that i really encountered being in colorado and knocking on doors, which is, this is not a single issue. it is pervasive for women and people who have limited their lives. the important thing about what the caller said is it goes to character. people want to be able to trust their elected officials.

they have twisted themselves in knots and straight out lied in order to backpedal from his extreme positions because he knows there outside of the mainstream and he knows most people want to reproductive health care, family planning to be a family decision. of ther to get out extreme positions he has taken, he has flat out lied. that undercuts trust with the voters. what about the debate were cory gardner asked senator udall, if you oppose making contraception available over the county -- over-the-counter, and he would not answer the question. guest: i am not sure what happened there. there is a big challenge. it is not that it does not sound great. we care very much about expanding access for contraception. thatundamental problem is because the affordable care act, for the first time ever, women do not have to be punished for

getting that prescription, because their insurance will cover it, what cory gardner is trying to do is say, we will make it over-the-counter. he cannot snap his fingers and make it over-the-counter. the fda has not suggested that. but women will have to pay twice for it. i know senator udall has been a of making a woman not a pre-existing condition. simply saying, let's make this over-the-counter, is saying, you are being punished again for being a woman. you have to pay twice for health care. that is what congress works so hard to eliminate for the affordable care act. next, democratic caller. go ahead. for taking myyou call. a quick statement and a question. it is abortion, what we are discussing here this

morning. the democrats of both parties of the presidency, they did not discuss this issue or pass one single law for this issue. it only comes up in campaigns. , shehe made a comment stated that women are getting hurt more. i would like to know where she got that information so i can look it up and see if women are being hurt or because they do not have access to birth control, which is at every cvs and walgreens in the world. thank you. are a number of different studies that show that when abortion is hard to access were made illegal, injuries go up, and the world health organization has one. the u.n. has one. the one i was specifically citing in texas was done by dan grossman and you can look that up. but i would actually challenge the caller's premise. we are not just talking about

abortion access. although that would be enough since seven in 10 americans believe abortion should be legal and the decision should remain with women and families. what we are seeing with people like cory gardner is that abortion is a piece of an extreme agenda. that extreme agenda includes granting same rights to women, -- two fertilized eggs as to women. that would result in outlawing certain kinds of contraception, having it, no affect on end-of-life decisions, in vitro fertilization. there is a particular ideological agenda that drives that isike cory gardner really out of step with mainstream values. it is about legislating a kind that fundamentally, americans believe it is part of why americans live in a free country, so we get to decide what a family is for ourselves. host: texas, tom, a republican there. caller: thank you for taking my

call. wondering, if something was created to determine if a child in the womb was homosexual, would you object to abortions of those homosexuals? if so, on what basis? guest: i do not think that exists and i'm not particularly interested in doing with hypotheticals. i am from texas as well. a fourth-generation texan. thatnk those hypotheticals are not actually grounded in reality is the kind of thing that drives the extreme legislation we have seen take over my home state of texas and it is hurting women. most women facing unintended pregnancies have very valid and personal decisions -- regions that drives them to make that decision and what the government has ruled in what the court has ruled is that that is a private and the-making process

supreme court has said the state has no business in regulating that. that is what we are about. host: judy is next, new york, republican. i have two statements i want to make. why is there a need to play on women's emotion for money during elections when abortion is legal in the united states? why can't women buy condoms if they want to have sexual relations? they are the least expensive form of birth control and most needed to prevent sexual disease and -- diseases? i think the question about abortion remaining legal ,nd contraception's accessible they have an important place in our discourse. we have seen a slew of restrictions at the state level. there have been a number of films introduced in the house at

a federal level that would restrict a woman's right to choose her own family planning and restrict her access to have a safe and legal abortion. these are legitimate issues that people want discussed, alongside many other issues in determining who they want to vote for. lots of women do by con dems. why shouldn't women have access to a wide range of tools to support reproductive health care? have accessshould to as much health care as we need so we can live healthy lives and make every pregnancy and intended one. host: vivian and texas, democratic caller. what bothers me the most, i have friends who are republicans. they are postwomen, police

women, even reporters. none of them got there by themselves. they are angry at the 1960's protesters. none of them got there by themselves. it was women getting thrown in jail for voting and women thatsting for the rights got them there. they did not get there by themselves. yet they belittle people that help to get them there. there are women who burned their bras, as silly as that may sound, it got them where they are. long fighte's been a for civil rights in this country for women and anyone who has not traditionally holding power. i could not agree more with the caller. whether you have chosen to onome a post woman or are

the pathway to become a corporate ceo, those who came before us fought for the right to vote and access to the marketplace. they deserve credit. underlying that is our ability reproductiveur health. if we cannot choose when to have cutdren, other choices are off to us. this has not been a traditionally democratic issue. the first state to legalize abortion was colorado under a republican governor. llowed by a republican governor in new york. it has been a bipartisan issue because it is one of human rights. when you go out and ask people whether they identify republican, independent, , this is still a bipartisan issue. it is only at the elected

official level it has become so polarized. host: a few minutes left with ilyse hogue, president of naral pro-choice america. go to prochoiceamerica.org. sonya in florida. good morning. caller: thank you for c-span. i appreciate the guest you have right now. i am a retired air force vet. more dominantly i have worked -- i have worked in a mayor -- i have worked in a male-dominated career field. i appreciate the caller discussing the women's activism in previous decades. getout them, i did not where i was throughout my military career. on women's issues, i do

moreciate -- i'm independent, stay out of my business and i do not like the government. have --ame time, i do your guest was going on about this is a bipartisan issue. i do differ on that. is not a bipartisan issue. it is a human issue. i went to make the point. democratslot of against republicans and back-and-forth. as got a tell you, a lot of us independents or more libertarians are tired of that. it is not one late or the other. these are issues facing everybody. host: i will have to leave it there. guest: that sounds like a great idea. i think these are human issues. seven in 10 americans agree.

as human issues, they belong and not in families the state or the federal capital. host: one more phone call. jack in rhode island. caller: good morning. i would like to discuss with your guest something in the shadows. conservative women, for example, she seems to be a very strong ofdidate, joni ernst out iowa. i do not believe your organization is supporting her. and other conservative women. like sarah palin, michele, who i think is retiring. host: are you wondering why they do not support republican women? caller: know. i am wondering why, overall, it is not more prevalent in the news cycle. this is my concern. joni ernst, that woman is a

patriot. she is smart, she's a patriot, she has guts. she's totally honest. i do not understand why she does not get more support. i believe she is going to win that election and i hope so. smarten up. host: ok. guest: we actually support both men and women. our valuesthey share and the values of most americans, which is to make reproductive health care accessible and to keep decision-making within families and with women and our doctors. host: ilyse hogue, thank you for talking to viewers. rica.org.choiceame coming up next, russell moore will be our guest. we will talk about evangelicals and he rose they will play in the election cycle. we check in on senate races in

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we believe we ought to be good citizens. we believe we ought to be the people working for the common good and for human flourishing. i think evangelicals are going to be very engaged. we have certain things we are concerned about uniquely. those issues are going to be coming to the forefront. host: what states and races? guest: in 2014, there are all sorts of elections. the senate battles are often having to do with issues that evangelicals are concerned about. there are particular amendments. amendment one in the state of tennessee, and that has to do with the abortion question. are is one evangelicals paying attention to. not only in tennessee but around the country. you to respond to the supreme court's decision recently to not hear an appeal to same-sex marriage bans. guest: this non-decision was in under the radar reverses wa was inthis nondecision

under the radar of throe v. wade. it is clear where the court is anting to go, finding constitutional right to same-sex marriage. i do not think there is any such seems to beourt moving in that direction. it is not something i was all that surprised by. windsor decision last year laid the groundwork for what they wanted to do. i was surprised it happened as quickly as it did. host: doesn't settle the debate? guest: no. we will continue to debate what marriage is and why the government ought to have an interest in marriage at all. short-term the situation looks very bad for people who believe in traditional marriage, as i do. long term, i am more optimistic. i think marriage is resilient. i think we are going to be

having this conversation for a long time. i do not think the sectional revolution -- i do not think revolution will be able to keep the promises it is making. host: scott walker saying "for us, it is over in wisconsin." guest: i have no stones to throw at governor walker. he's dealing with the short-term, legal question in his state. is the decision that wisconsin was having to make about whether or not they're going to pursue a process with a court that seems hellbent on imposing same-sex marriage. host: should people of faith in the four scott walker if he is saying we are not going to fight it anymore? i don't endorse candidates. i do not think scott walker is saying the issue does not matter. i think scott walker is saying we recognize what the court is doing and we do not have a

hearing with the court on this issue right now. that is a judgment scott walker is making. it may or may not be the right decision. i don't think it is a moral question. host: what about in 2016? eyeing 2016. nbc news has this headline. evangelicals warned 2016 candidates do not support gay marriage. don't see many candidates who are supportive of same-sex marriage. rob portman would be the only one on the list to does. i do not think he would get that evangelicalsfrom and really from any other social conservatives or others within the party. because of that issue. most of the other candidate are very strong on the issue of marriage. when you dobout surveys -- more americans supporting the idea of same-sex marriage. you have got this from the pew research in september. studyal congregations

finds more church acceptance of gay and lesbians. our churches have always been accepting of gay and lesbian persons as persons. we do not hate they and lesbian persons. we do not want to see them mistreated. we do think sexuality is within themoral confines of marriage. marriage is defined as the union of a man and woman. we make a distinction between the way we ought to love people and care for people and what it means to call people to repentance. myth out there that younger evangelicals are moving towards accepting same-sex marriage. i don't think it is true let all. when one looks at evangelicals who actually go to church. one finds viewpoints that are just as conservative as their parents or grandparents. even more so in many cases on issues of marriage and a family and sexuality. today, a headline

on many of the papers. the catholic church expresses new acceptance of gays and divorce. bishops expressed tolerance towards homosexuality and divorce monday. could and the rigid stance on those issues. i want to read one quote. law expert saying "it looks at the individual person the way jesus looks at individual people." guest: it is confusing what a church is trying to do with this synod. who havetholic friends diametrically opposed interpretations of what is happening. if what the charge is saying is that we have to people who do not agree with us and who are people we are seeking to reach with the gospel, of course i agree and that is what our

churches are doing every single week in the communities and around the world. if what the church is saying that we ought to mute or make and issu -- and to make ambiguoe , i do notepentance agree. i come from a model where we believe who the people who are received into the church art repentant and has experienced new birth and wish to follow christ. i'm committed. it is a very different model from a catholic model. host: what is the southern baptist convention? guest: a fellowship of 45,000 million people around the united states. where people committed to the gospel. the understanding of following being forgiven for since. sharing missions around the

world, sharing the gospel and participating in disaster relief and administering to our communities. , who has all moore phd in southern baptist theology from the southern baptist seminary school. taking your comments and questions about the role of religion in campaign 2014. william, democratic caller. you're on the air with dr. mo ore. caller: good morning. i find many of the stances of the southern baptists their hypocritical. , for the most part, you guys support republicans. so much of what the republicans are doing nowadays goes against god's teachings. they do not want to raise the minimum wage. mitt romney says we do not care about the lower 47% and it will not help them.

gaysmake comments about and try to pass laws to allow businesses to discriminate against gays and other minorities. so many things that do not follow god and go against god's teachings. yet your church groups support republicans. how can that be? does notr group support candidates at all and any sort of official endorsement. we do not see ourselves as republicans or democrats but as christians, people who follow christ. mentioneds the caller are issues people can disagree on. minimum wage, we have differences of opinion in the southern baptist church and other churches about minimum wage. those differences are about whether or not the wage will help or hurt the people we are seeking to help. we understand we need to help the poor. there is a debate about whether or not this will happen. just as there is an congress and

other places. we do not want to see laws that would harm gay and lesbian persons. what we want to do is protect the religious liberty of those people who say i cannot, in good conscious, participate in a same-sex wedding. or i cannot participate in something that would go against my conscious. that is true for all americans. not just for us. we want religious liberty for everybody. host: ralph, wilmington, delaware, democrat. caller: good morning. thank you for c-span. i would like to ask of this gentleman. ,he southern baptist church was the name was designed to distinguish it from black baptists and they did not allow want to bests or affiliated for years. i believe one of the gentlemen from the southern baptists apologized for their stance on that. i would like to know what their black really is on

baptists as opposed to southern baptists and why they had the southern baptist maname instead of baptists. guest: the convention formed .ight before the civil war there was a split within every denomination over the issue of slavery. the southern baptist convention was wickedly wrong and in sin in our position in that time. 0th anniversary, the convention a knowledge of our ancestors were wrong. they were biblically wrong and wrong in terms of fighting the gospel. what you will see when the caller says we want to distinction ourselves from black --tists, we are actually that would be distancing ourselves from ourselves. the fastest-growing demographic group in the southern baptist convention are african-american

congregations and persons. that is not an accurate reading. host: springfield, virginia, bob, republican. caller: thank you, c-span, for preventing this program -- presenting the program. i wanted to ask a question with three parts. it has to do with the strategy in political campaigns in three frontiers. that evangelicals may have surrendered territory. one is indymedia, it seems -- one is in the media, it seems that evangelicals are painted in a negative light. another is in our educational system, kids are not being exposed to principles and values of our forefathers. the third is in the large hispanic community of the u.s. which culturally is very profamily and very committed to work ethic. it does not seem in those three dings evangelicals are ce

territory to those who wish to destroy our culture. i would appreciate your comment s. guest: i would not agree we are territory, especially when it comes to hispanic evangelicals. that is one of the most dynamic parts of my church constituency and evangelicalism as a whole. yesterday there was a list on faithstreet.com, hispanic evangelicals you should know. these are all massively whoessive, gifted leaders are latino in the evangelical community. i have been working very hard over the past year and a half dealing with fixing our immigration system. and in working with hispanic evangelicals on issues of concern to the hispanic community. for instance, the border crisis. the migrant children on the border. and latinolo

evangelicals working together to minister to those kids. one of the things that was most surprising when he border crisis started, i was immediately receiving nonstop calls from our churches of people wanting to go to the border and help these kids and minister to the kids and their mothers. i had to say the government will not allow you to calm in and directly do ministry in the way that you want to. behind that was a heart that really cares about people and kids. host: does your group support, supported the gang of 8 bill in the senate? guest: we did not support specific legislation, we supported principles. a secure border, the board or ought to be secured. also that we ought to have compassion on the 11 million persons living here in invisibility. we need to find a way to make things right. host: amnesty? guest: not amnesty. amnesty would say it is ok and

simply go on. it needs to be an and path. host: do the gang of eight bill have an armed path -- an earned path? guest: it did but it had a lot of other things. we think there are several different ways that we could get to the same goal. host: oklahoma, independent. good morning. caller: i have a couple questions. question, wel i am so gladl --to see that the southern baptist convention is not compromising its doctrines at all. it.it's sticking with it is showing compassion. there are a lot of people out there who do not.

they say it you must do what we do, how we do it or you are not right and you are going to burn up and go to hell. like they are doing what they are doing. host: dr. moore? guest: not sure what the question as but we do not think we can revise our doctrine because we think our doctrine was handed down to us by jesus. we have a responsibility to be compassionate to people and understand we are to love every person and respect the dignity of every person. we believe every person is created in the image of god. we do not see people who disagree with us as enemies to be vaporized. we think we got to be talking to one another and seeking to persuade one another. i do not think that his weakness or backing down. i think that is the way we move forward. supportes your group the personhood amendment and colorado? guest: our group does believe

life begins with conception. we support any effort to support -- we support any effort to reasonably protect human life. host: cory gardner running against mark udall at a recent , excuse me, ran a campaign ad telling viewers he no longer supports an antiabortion personhood amendment, despite past support. i want your response. [video clip] >> his record -- here's what is happening. barack obama's guys think they can play politics. attacking me for changing my mind about personhood after i learned more and listen to more of you. andonder senator udall president obama cannot relate. their takeover of health care is a disaster. and obama refused to listen while everyone else paid.

i am cory gardner, i will listen. host: do you agree with his decision? guest: what he is talking about is a tactical decision of finding other ways to achieve the same goal of protecting human life. i think cory gardner is pro-life, from everything i know. particularever the it is going on in colorado, i do not know. what i do know is that we support protection of the most honorable among us, including the on board -- the unborn. host: do you support over-the-counter contraception? he does. guest: i am not a supporter of over the counter contraception. we are seeing the government in this. i do not think it is the best way to do it. host: do you support the idea of cory gardner for senate? guest: i don't endorse candidates. host: you still believe he is pro-life? guest: he says he is pro-life

and he says his record shows that. host: florida, democratic caller . caller: good morning. host: go ahead. a littlen your guest, while ago he had a question thet the diversity of southern baptists. i would agree with him that over the last 10 years they've been very diverse. i think that was to recruit new members because they were losing members. they've also had in african-american leader. the question i have for him is that if he understands why there is gay marriage. and let me take my answer on the air. host: ok. what is your question? caller: does he understand why there is gay marriage? my opinion is that the religious by and said nothing

for equal rights. they did not want to get married, they just wanted to have the same rights as other citizens are other people when wanted to do something with their livelihood or whatever. host: ok. hist: i'm not sure what point is. i think every american has the same rights and ought to have equality before the law. i do not think that means redefining marriage. i think there is a reason why the government is involved in marriage between a man and a woman, because it is a unique relationship. that at least possibly, and ideally, can produce children. there is a different government interest and there is in other relationships of any kind. host: what about civic unions? the idea that you do not call it marriage but had the same rights. guest: i would not support

marriage and some other name. when i would support our ways for two people who want to take care of one another, two sisters who are living with one another to say we want to have a arrangement where we can see each other in the hospital and make arrangements in terms of wills. host: rodney in los angeles, republican caller. stick andhave a quick a question for mr. moore. as a gay african-american male who votes conservative, i want to inform the public that the part of my group only ones gay marriage for their ability to slap god in the face because god and marriage is connected. all the rights they required at the beginning was legitimate.

they wanto take it to the extreme with gay marriage. host: do you agree? good: i think they have intentions for the most part. they are following a way they think would lead to a better life. god hasthe way that revealed is a better way. i would question the motives of people who disagree with me. host: democratic caller from florida. caller: i have been listening to what you have been talking about. when the southern baptists talks government, the reason that people have to run to the government is because the church is not doing their job. go go todn't need to the

the government. when we talk about gay marriage, it is not us against gay marriage but god against gay marriage. if you follow god, you want to follow his principles. host: dr. moore? guest: we do need government to be here. god ordained governments. we need churches that are doing ministry in their own communities and there are many people who find themselves in crisis who need their local church to be ministering to them, and the bible says to do that. we need congregations who know what is going on in their churches. they know how to minister to those people in their

congregation who are hungry and in need of food. that does not eliminate the need for a government safety net. windy churches who do not believe human need is the government's problem. host: is there a role for ebolaes to help with infection control? guest: i am not sure how local congregations can do that. this is very much under the control of the center for disease control. we need to pray about this issue and to be informed about this issue. we need to stop the people who are demonizing missionaries. several people have said people who would minister to those in africa who are suffering from ebola, one person said these are losers. that is deeply obnoxious. we need people to minister to

those who are suffering. we have always been willing to do that. we need to continually do that. somehow we can become fortress america and keep ebola across the seas in africa, as though africa is not our problem. we need to recognize that these are human beings who are suffering. we need to try to remedy this in the few cases in the united states but also in africa. host: william in ohio. caller: thank you for taking my call. i am curious about the recent credit streams -- and intimidation while going to clinics such as planned parenthood which to other

andices such as std testing education. anyonei haven't seen involved in tagging cars and doing those sorts of things outside of.abortion clinics i see roman catholics outside of abortion clinics praying and offering alternatives to women, who only feel they have a alternative by planned parenthood. host: if that is happening -- guest: that is awful and should not happen. people of christ should understand we not going to do evil in order for good to come. people involved in the pro-life movement, that means persuading people to see life as a gift and not to make this awful decision

that the abortion industry is offering. i see people offering alternatives. not just alternatives to abortion but after a child is born, there is job training, community support for women in crisis, help for those caught in domestic violence or anything else. what we see are armies of compassion helping people who are in need. host: this piece in the front page of "the new york times" yesterday about chris christie. host: we do at that meeting? guest: i was at that meeting.

host: do you have skepticism about governor christie if he were to run? guest: it is really early right now. i think governor christie, many people do not know governor christie right now in evangelical circles. there is time for him to make the case. he is staunchly pro-life. he talked about his pro-life conviction. it is not politically convenient to be pro-life in new jersey. he talked a great deal about that. there is some skepticism, it comes in three places. one is judicial nominations. can a be trusted on judicial nominations?

religious liberty is second. he has not detailed his views on protecting religious liberty in this country. he has to make clear where he stands. he can do that. the third is getting to know him. there are many evangelicals and traditional roman catholics who do not know him outside of this immediate orbit. he has been concern about education. kept turning to education. he has a verdant to see kids den tod -- he has a bur see kids succeed and i resonate with that. he has time to address those issues. host: these types of meetings are not new. have the other potential 2016

candidates met behind closed doors with you and others? guest: several have. host: how do they come to take place? guest: they want to see what is on the map out there in terms of evangelical concern. of a talkingmore session and getting to know one another meeting. host: why do you think they are important? guest: these candidates are seeking to lead us and to lead every constituency in this country and they need to be in touch. host: callie in georgia. caller: thank you for taking my call. , for your mr. moore service. i have been a christian since i was 12 years old and a southern baptist.

i have done a lot of explaining along the years as a republican and christian in my time. i wanted to talk about the minimum wage. why as aied to explain apublican we are against federal minimum wage. i have tried to give my analysis why we do not agree with giving a federal minimum wage. maybe you can give your explanation of why i am right or whether i am wrong. i have tried to explain it. i will take my call off the air. guest: i do not think the bible gives us the right to number 48 minimum wage. i don't have the authority to speak to what it should be.

i think we should have a debate of what it should be. none of us would believe a minimum wage would be as high as we can possibly get it. we know what that would do to the economy. people would be laid off. we should find a balance. host: should it be higher than it is now? guest: i do not know. we should debate and bring economists in. i think christians can disagree about whether there ought to be a minimum wage and whether it should be at a certain point. we cannot disagree that we have a responsibility to care about the poor and to minister to the poor. we can disagree about the best way to do that. we need to care about those who

are poor. that is a family issue. we have single moms working sometimes three and four jobs in order to provide for their children. inneed to care about that our churches and in the public square. host: what is your legislative priority for this congress? guest: religious liberty protection. case, thehobby lobby decision came down the way i wanted it to come down. we had to go to the supreme court to say the government shouldn't have the power to save over the consciences of people is morally wrong. i think that is a troubling sign. we should make sure we continue to support the first amendment, not just for us but for every

person in this country. that is my number one priority. host: richard in florida. caller: hello. i am a baptist preacher. i want to say it is people like the southern baptist convention that run people away. you guys, you sit up and act like you are so holy and thou when it comes to abortion. when kids come into the world you forget about them. perfect example. , thelack community are trying to stop them from voting. i believe they would be on the stop blackying to

people from voting. been insistent on voting rights for all people. host: do you agree with voter i.d.'s? guest: we do not have an official position. is ok to voter id prevent fraud if there are protections put in place to make sure those people who cannot get cost. can get them at low when it comes to caring for kids, the cliche that pro-life people care about children from the moment of conception to the moment of birth is not true. people helping children, these are pro-life people who are doing so throughout the lifespan. we have a massive movement to

care for orphans around the world, which is consistent with the christian position. that means involving people in foster care, helping orphans who are diseased and maybe cannot be adopted or received into families but need care and the human touch. and those who need families for them, finding families. of the so not in spite fact that they are pro-life but because they are pro-life. we reject the people who would see immigrant children as parasites are people coming to sap our resources. we think every person is created in the image of god. host: you can go to the website

to read more about the southern baptist convention. thank you very much for your time. we turn our convention to campaign 2014 and ask if cies is anobama's poli issue for you. will you vote for or against the president? we will get an update on some key senate races from reporters on the ground in kentucky, kansas, and louisiana. but first a news update from c-span radio. >> reports that the world health organization is projecting 5000 to 10,000 new ebola cases weekly by the end of november. if the response to the crisis isn't stepped up within 60 days, a lot more people will die. there will be a huge need on the

ground to deal with the spiraling number of cases. there have been about 1000 new cases per week for the last four weeks. who is aiming to have 70% of cases isolated within two months to reverse the outbreak. more on the group isis. the islamic state group may possess chemical weapons that it has already used, this according to photos. the group making gains in iraq syria may have captured agents and use them in july. there is a strategy session today in washington to consider ways to enhance the campaign against the extremists in iraq and syria. defense chiefs are participating in the meeting. the focus is the fight against

militants. josh earnest will brief reporters later. that is some of the latest news on c-span radio. c-span's campaign 2014 coverage. debateate schedules, previews from our politics team. c-span is bringing over 100 debates. you can share your reactions to what the candidates are saying. the battle for control in congress. follow us on twitter and like us on facebook at facebook.com/c span. "washington journal" continues. host: whether president obama will be a driving force for the midterm voters.

we ask all of you. republicans, 202-585-3881. .emocrats, 202-585-3880 .ndependents, 202-585-3882 we want to get your thoughts. a remains a vote -- motivating force for some voters. take a look at the polls. they break it down. look at the numbers. 18% said the vote is a vote for or against the president. 4% of republicans said it is for the president. 6% of independents said they would vote for president obama. take a look at against the

president. said that isicans why they are going to the polls. 36% of independents say they would be going to vote against the president. you can see here, those are the numbers for george w. bush in the 2006 midterm election. president. said it wasn't about the president then. it matches up to past midterm elections. phone lines are open. start dialing now so we can get to your thoughts on this. gallup has a similar poll they

put together, similar to 2010. 20% said theying, were sending a message of support to the president. 46% not sending a message at all to the president. you can see how that lines up with 2010. is the president a motivating factor to get you to go to the polls? 22 days before election day. we going to go to kentucky. sam youngman is a political reporter with the "lexington herald-leader," talking about the kentucky senate race. we will try to get to him in a few minutes. we cover the kentucky senate debate last night. the one and only debate between

mitch mcconnell against alison lundergan grimes. at the debate, they talked about the role of government, health care, taxes, etc. they also talked about whether alison lundergan grimes voted for president obama. she would not say that last night's debate. if you missed it, you can go to www.c-span.org. 100 debates for control of congress and the states. patty, good morning to you. is president obama a factor in these midterm elections? caller: somewhat. host: why is that? caller: you might influence the democrats. i don't think he has much influence on the independents.

i think he has done a horrible job when it comes to defend america. period. not putting ground troops overseas. that is one of my issues. i think it is awful to see people over there you don't do much about it. host: michael in kansas city, democrat. is motivating you to go to the polls? caller: hello? i think obama is doing a great job. people need to start using common sense. if you don't use common sense, there is something wrong with you. it is not his fault the economy isn't right. just wake up and use your own sense. host: alison lundergan grimes is running in kentucky to unseat mitch mcconnell.

she was asked if she voted for president obama. she would not answer. mitch mcconnell picked up on that and put out this ad. [video clip] heardno not answer around the country. >> she refused to answer. a they expect her to cast tough vote. is she ever going to answer a tough vote on anything? i i am mitch mcconnell and approve this message. host: that was mitch mcconnell's ad that he put together after alison lundergan grimes would not say whether she voted for president obama. the issue came up again last night. here is how alison lundergan grimes responded. [video clip]

>> this is a matter of principle. the constitutional rights for privacy at the ballot box. you have that right. every kentuckian has that right. i am tasked with overseeing and making sure we are enforcing all of our election laws. i work very closely to ensure the privacy of the ballot box. >> your reluctance is a matter of principle. >> i am not going to compromise a constitutional right provided in kentucky in order to curry oror on one or another side members of the media. >> you will answer that question tonight? >> you have that right. every kentuckian has the right for privacy at the ballot box.

who in kentucky will stand up for the right? host: that was courtesy of kentky education tv. we brought that into c-span. go to the website if you missed it, www.c-span.org. sam youngman joins us now on the phone. what about her answer last night? was it effective? guest: i think we're all a little bit surprised, given the amount of time she had. with her advisers to come up with a more palatable way to answer this without giving senator mcconnell fodder for tv commercials. the larger commercial is does it not affect swing voters? beenrn kentuckians have

bombarded with ads drawing ties between alison lundergan grimes and president obama. if people do not make that connection, they are not going to. will this hurt her with the base? the position on the issues. host: last night's debate was the one and only debate. did anyone win? guest: i do not think so. au can lose a debate -- campaign at a debate. come mcconnell, would he across as condescending or would .ave a moment i thought that he managed to keep his cool throughout by avoiding that pitfall.

, it islundergan grimes coming to a head. she has talked about who she is not. she is not mitch mcconnell and president obama. you have to tell voters who you are. host: where is the latest polling? guest: we are lacking for polling. has a smallnnell but steady lead. poll,ll, the bluegrass last week showed alison lundergan grimes with a two-point lead. it is a big change from what we have been seeing. is a close race and will probably continue to they. host: isn't president obama a factor in this race? guest: nationally the

environment is somewhat poisoned by his low approval ratings. they are even worse in kentucky. his approval ratings are around 30%. mitch mcconnell knows that. he is use that as the essential facet of his campaign to cloak alison lundergan grimes in this veil of unpopularity. what we saw in may, look like he was having success doing that. we won't know if he is ultimately successful until election night. host: what is mitch mcconnell's popularity like? guest: marginally better than president obama's. he is not a well like politician. he attributes that to his leadership role. kentucky is fed up with washington and that is reflected

in his approval numbers. the biggest question will be answered will be what do you dislike more? host: sam youngman, we appreciate it. let's turn back to all of you. is president obama a factor in the midterm election? caller: he is not a factor to me. i did vote for him. i have supported him. whichned the patriot act, takes our rights and liberties away from us. there is a few other issues on not happy about. he has turned the country to a better stance then we were with bush. americans have to be graver and quick sucking their -- and quit sucking their thumbs. i will stay with anybody i think

who says the right thing. hopefully they will. help our fellow man will remember what jesus said, have no enemy. i am fully for president obama appearea. what do you think republicans are going to give you? it's going to be much worse if you put republicans in there .aire they're going to try to eliminate health care. what are republicans going to do? that is a question we have to ask. host: bob in florida.

republican. caller: i think what's resonating with america right -- we have a huge unemployment problem right now. i'm looking at this capitol dome behind you and i saw somebody report on that where they were rebuilding in and sending it -- as sanding it and they were talking about a couple million dollars to make the dome pretty. retired, she was gushing saying i'm so proud of the workers and we get into the immigration issue and they are underreporting that saying is 11 million. most people were briefed and 90 forcing it was 36 million --

most people were briefed in 1994 saying it was 36 million. be a dumping ground for the entire united states. when you throw the mix for the abortions into it, girl at 36 million abortions -- you are saying 36 million abortions, you are bringing in 36 million taxpayers to balance the economy. gary, is president obama's policies a motivating factor for you? caller: very much motivated. election started, the democrats have been running away from this man.

he comes down to help them and they don't want to be next to them. -- to him. get out ofy has to regular people's business. they have to stop running the businesses that are owned by regular people. you buy a business, you own it, you run it the way you want. john in south dakota. independent caller. caller: i think this election is not about obama. it's about the middle class. that we haveortant a strong middle class in this country. host: what about the south dakota senate race? pressler.m for larry he is the most qualified. you have two mediocre -- three

mediocre individuals running the system. they talk a good game, but it when comes down to it, it's the same old thing. divide and conquer. this country needs more independents. going back to the middle class, 40 years ago, i was standing at class if the middle stopped paying taxes, this country would go broke in 45 days. let's face it. , if theh comes to shove middle class starts shrinking, who is going to pay for social security and medicare? host: i ask you about south dakota because it made the front page of the new york times this morning. a free for all.

reporting from south dakota. says -- you just heard that caller saying he plans to vote for larry pressler. the new york times reporting on that senate race. denver, colorado. i watch c-span all the time. i love c-span because it gives

us so much history. the reason i am on today is because of our wonderful president. he will go down in history as one of the best presidents we have ever had. policies he has supported himself and passed. pay for women, encouraging equal pay raises for our middle .lass host: do you think senator mark udall -- he has not campaigned with the president.

do you think that's a mistake? mistake.er: i know it's a they should listen to how they should run based on the republicans telling them what to do. udall is an excellent senator appeared he has been supported by the president and he continues to let people know that the president is going to get it done. we have health care, we are focusing on clean air. i have asthma and i have worked all my life as a public servant. i suffer because of what is going on as far as the air is concerned.

our president is bringing people together. host: from the washington post this morning, they note this. barack obama carried the state in two runs for the white house. bennet's senate victory has come to be regarded as a prototype for how a democrat can win in a tough year. theoes on to note this -- denver mayor was at the opening of a mark udall field office earlier this month and a historically backed community. "ready forng a hillary" pin. when barack obama was going to

go to colorado to fund raise, mark udall did not appear with the president and stayed in washington instead we go to david in new york. his president obama a factor for you? are -- yes, his policies i don't necessarily agree with a lot of them. host: i want to go to kansas now. joining us on the phone is tim carpenter. talking about the kansas senate race. the two candidates are going to be squaring off in a debate and c-span will have that coverage of it on wednesday at 8:00 p.m. between pat roberts and greg .rman a guest: good morning.

i think we will see more of the same from two previous debates. will go on the attack against the independent candidate, mr. orman. host: is this debate more important for one of these candidates? caller: that's an interesting question. it is broadcast statewide. the previous debates -- one was in johnson county for business executives. the first one was at the state fair. so far, the state fair debate gets the purple ribbon. the wednesday tv debate will be important because more people will have their eyes on these gentlemen. undecidedshandful of out there and they will decide

this election. both have a lot at stake because polling shows it's anybody's race. host: greg orman came out with an ad. republicans for greg orman. [video clip] i grew up in a republican household we have seen such gridlock in washington. they won't work together. i'm ready for a fresh face. someone who will represent the best interests of kansas. greg orman will find innovative ways to solve problems. being an independent gives him the opportunity to find ways to work with both sides to end the gridlock. i will be voting for greg orman. host: a new greg orman at. he has not said whether he will caucus with democrats or republicans. is he appealing to republicans in kansas? caller: of course he is. he can't win without winning a

large number of moderate republican votes. ad isdividual in the sandy kreger, the state insurance commissioner. she is endorsing the independent. senator roberts campaign is centered on the train mr. orman as a democrat. orman as a mr. democrat. this is opportunity for orman to get a republican out in front of him and show people that republicans can come to the orman camp as well. host: here's a piece in the washington times this morning. senatety backs roberts bid in order to defeat greg orman. folks had tea party campaigning with the incumbent republican. you had gop establishment of

also campaigning for him. the key to this is winning the support of martin wolf, who has the tea party backed candidate that greg orman was able to beat heading into this one. what are you hearing about his endorsement? caller: he was a tea party against senator roberts. he was a very challenging primary for this senator. senator roberts narrowly won. he was a troubled candidate. he had been posted to the internet -- he was a damaged candidate, but really dug into roberts on a couple of points. winrder for roberts to coming he had to alienate a bunch of tea party people. --the general election

sometimes candidates drive to the middle towards victory. roberts is pushing back to the outside to try to reclaim those tea party votes. -- theyparty expressed endorsed roberts. occur, i would be surprised. it is certainly possible. host: i want to show our viewers 's recent ad against the greg orman, trying to president obama. [video clip] debt.llions in new obamacare. nearly 10 million americans unemployed. --ack obama says >> these policies are -- >> his candidate>

greg orman. a vote for greg orman is a vote for the obama agenda. is that strategy working for pat roberts? two people in kansas believe that? caner: a couple of points be made. the president is not very popular in a very conservative republican state like kansas. senator roberts has done everything in his power to try to attach greg orman to the president. in debates and public appearances, roberts will speak more frequently of harry reid and barack obama then he will greg orman. convince voters that greg orman is a clone of the president of the united states, senator roberts has a much better chance of victory.

he doesn't really talk about policy issues or ideas. it's more of a labeling attack. it appears like that is working. the polls are narrowing. host: what is the latest? caller: the latest polling they came out yesterday said that orman was up 3%. that is within the margin of error. it's a tossup. host: we will be watching wednesday at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. c-span will have live coverage of the kansas senate debate between pat roberts and greg orman. tim carpenter, thank you for your time. let's go to anthony in maryland. independent caller. his president obama a factor for you in november? caller: thank you. i don't think he is a factor.

what should be a factor to me is the position of these people we are voting for. like russia invading ukraine. the isis issue. in the bowl and the spread of it in our homeland. homeland is the factors. and the spread of it in our homeland. factors. the host: the racist folks are the races-- wh

watching. another closely watched race is the one in louisiana. c-span2 tonight.wri joe in flint, michigan. independent caller. caller: i just have a couple of questions. missouri -- kentucky

democratic candidate vote so important? what does that have to do with anything? fromle back, the man oregon seems to think that we should send troops in to fight isis. i'm wondering if she is willing to join the military. we go on to elizabeth in las vegas. the makati caller. -- democratic caller. suggest tot i would our listeners and our country is that we start thinking of ourselves just as a global economy. all of these things are theening because of catastrophic things happening around our world. that's why prices are soaring.

we buy from japan, we buy from south america. see all of our prices raised. in regard to obama, the fact that hillary clinton was the was aary of state blessing in disguise. she did do that. john kerry is doing a great job. trying to keep it all together. we have to change our thinking as a country. we are all brothers and sisters in this world together that we call our home planet of earth. twitterme reaction on for you.

his president obama a factor for you in these midterm elections? we have 10 minutes left in the phone lines are open. we will get to your calls in a few seconds. the washington times has this headline this morning. they're disappointed with the midterm candidates.

that from the "washington times" this morning. joining us on the phone is: avery, the state politics nola.com.ith -- joining us on the phone is cole avery. give us a preview of that debate. caller: good morning. theyll be the first time come to the debate stage and we are all pretty excited about that. i saw her the other day and she was fired up because she is frustrated that she has not had

an opportunity to face him in public. really goect her to after him. she was reserved in the first debate with the tea party candidates. this time, she is going to really let loose on him. -- for cassidy, he is going to be attacked and he has to stand his ground. cassidy is going to have to fend off attacks from both sides. he is winning right now because of his party. the toxic nature of being a democrat in the south. he doesn't need to say anything that will give his opponents ammunition to use in the home stretch. explain what three

candidates on the ballot means for november 4. haver: you are going to two conservatives and a democrat. i don't think the polling numbers show that senator landrieu can win this out right. we are going to go to a runoff. louisiana will be the last ticket. depending on how the ballot ships out on november 4, there could be an awful lot of attention on our state if the senate rests in whoever wins our december runoff. host: the louisiana debate is tonight? caller: it is tonight. it will be broadcast on louisiana public broadcasting. host: we will bring it to our viewers tonight on c-span2 at 8:00 p.m. eastern time.

louisianaout how structure works. thisor landrieu want when out right. she has to get more than 50%. because of a unique primary system. is running in the same election. the top two vote getters move on to the runoff. if it's to republicans, it's to republicans. i think it's going to be senator landrieu and probably representative cassidy. i really expect it to be landrieu and cassidy. host: that debate is tonight live on c-span2.

last week, senator landrieu decided to replace her campaign manager. why? are a couple different ways you can look at it. the republicans and say it's a sign of desperation. on the surface, it looks that way. you change your top manager of your campaign with just a few days to go before the election. landrieu after the debate last week likened it to a baseball game where she is bringing in her closer. ryan is somebody she has worked with in the past. it's somebody that has worked ,or her brother, mitch landrieu the mayor of new orleans. democrats are not all that excited to go out and vote. landrieu needs to get those people to the polls.

it's a combination of the two theories, really. she has done all she can do with tv and she does need to make sure her voters get to the polls , ifared on the other hand you think your guy can go the distance all nine innings, you leave him in and she obviously doesn't think adam sullivan can do that. thank you for breaking it down for us. we have a few minutes left. getting your thoughts on campaign tony 14 and if president obama's policies are effective for you. joseph in mclean, virginia. i'm perplexed by the campaign slogans of republicans.

usually when you have a president in office, they have been able to do stuff like turn the economy around. we all remember how bad the economy was . a lot of people have managed to come out of the situation. to make a referendum about it 's policies,esident it's laughable. a lot of people are focused on , the basic part of dealing with the budget and coming out of debt and getting this country out of debt. i'm not going to say it's about race because i am leaning towards singh it's still about race but they are disgusting. people can read through the

slogans -- it's sad that they are reaching out to other states where people are still against the sky because of his color -- against this guy because of his color. host: greg is a republican in north carolina. support the not domestic policies of barack obama. kay hagan is a big cheerleader for barack obama. hissupports over 90% of votes. there is no way she could be a moderate. i would not support her and i urge all north carolinians -- she has not been a good supporter of our constituents. look at our fuel bills and electric bills. look at the whole picture of things. host: we have covered the debates in north carolina as

well. go to our website, www.c-span.org. you will find our campaign 2014 coverage there. >> the subcommittee holds a hearing on the use of government credit cards. witnesses well testify as to what they are doing about the misuse of these cards.