congressman green will also join us and is a member of the oversight me -- committee. we will also take her facebook comments and tweets. the president changed his travel plans, a second trip for today canceled. the white house coordinates

federal response. this is new information about the second nurse who contracted ebola and traveled by plane after permission to do so by the cdc. he will join national institutes of health director anthony ferrechio and others before a house sub committee hearing today and response. you can see that hearing live at noon on c-span. listen to it on c-span radio and also monitor it on c-span.org. for our first 45 minutes this morning we like to hear from you about the white house response, the federal response to the handling of the ebola cases in the united states. and if you think it's enough. you can post your thoughts on

twitter at c-span wj. make your thoughts known on facebook. and you can e-mail us, too, at journal.org. the president holding that cabinet hearing a lot of topics discussed when it comes to handling of ebola. the "wall street journal" this morning, the headline, president promises review of problems, saying mr. obama speaking after the meeting with the senior advisors involved in the ebola response promise to review every step of the government's response since the first case appeared in the u.s. he said u.s. officials will more an aggressively monitor incidents where the virus could spread. one of the people covering those events from yesterday, that cabinet hearing, katie zesma joins us on the phone. good morning. >> good morning, peter. host: could you tell us about today's activities at the white

house? what is planned specifically when it comes to monitoring ebola in the u.s.? >> we know that the president canceled a trip to rhode island and new york state and that's significant because the president does not often cancel trips. he did so yesterday when he convened the cabinet meeting. it kind of underscores the seriousness with which the white house is taking this outbreak. host: from the cabinet meeting yesterday what was some of the topics discussed? and first and foremost did cdc direct door friedman come up in these discussions? >> he was on the call. he was in a meeting, and you know, what kind of came out of it is the white house is doing a very delicate balance. you know, as you said, they said that they're going to be reviewing everything that happens with the cases in dallas but on the other hand they're trying to assure the public that the risk of a widespread

outbreak is very, very low. and the president held himself up as an example, saying that when he was in atlanta a few weeks ago he hugged and kissed nurses who worked with ebola patients, and so perfectly save doing so because they took all the necessary precautions while treating thish payents. so you know, they talked about the protocol comes, they talked about the fact that they need to really take lessons learned from dallas, and go from there. host: as far as more pressure on the cdc to handle this matter, did you sense that from the cabinet hearing? >> well, you know, from what the president said, they are sending s.w.a.t. teams out when there are additional cases, because they have conceded there probably will be additional ones. so the cdc has been directed to send a rapid response team, be on the ground as quickly as possible to help local hospitals, you know, go through protocol and do things in a way

that will try to ensure that it does not spread further. host: what about the political undertones to this? there have been calls by some in congress to remove the head of the cdc, calls by some for travel ban. how does the white house take those recommendations? >> well, they're -- house speaker boehner came out yesterday and called for a travel ban. he's by far the most high profile member of congress to do so, but the drum beat is growing for that. there has been, you know, more and more lawmakers calling for travel ban. two countries that are accepted, there has been some lawmakers that have todayed for the resignation of cdc director friedman. that drum beat is definitely growing and will likely do so in the next few days. host: so events canceled yesterday. today has the white house indicated that other events might be canceled, as well?

>> no. as far as we know the president was supposed to travel to rhode island to give a speech on the economy today, and then he was supposed to go to long island and new york to fund raise. those events are canceled. as far as we know that is all -- that is all we know right now in terms of events being canceled. yesterday he was supposed to go to new jersey for a democratic fundraiser and then fly to connecticut for two rallies for the government for, who is embroiled in a very tough re-election bid. that has parenly been postponed. the president is supposed to go back to connecticut at some point but unclear when he will do so. host: any indication that the president might address this concern directly in a speech or address the public as far as this matter is concerned? is there anything along those lines from the white house? >> we do not know at this point whether he will or won't. that is something that we will definitely be watching very closely for today.

host: she is the white house reporter talking about the white house response to ebola. there is a story on "the washington post" web site. thank you. >> thank you. host: when it comes to response by the federal government to these incidents in the united states we want to ask you if you think it's enough and if you want to give your thoughts, it's republicans (202) 585-3881, (202) 585-3880 for democrats, indiana indian interests. we'll start first up with charles from georgia, on our democrats line. charles, what do you think about the response so far? >> i think the president is doing a good job. he got out in front of it. he been down to the cdc. he doing a good job. i think people need to calm down a little bit, and observe what the president is doing. host: so to go further than you've already seen it and what about the head of the cdc? should he be removed?

caller: no, he doing a good job also. he got out in front of it. he told people about it. he doing the best job he can possibly do. we don't know who is traveling from country to country who might have this. make sure we train our nurses. host: saint joseph, michigan, this is john, john hello, go ahead. caller: thank you. i want to know who made the call from the cdc to let that nurse on the commercial plane. that's one point. and i would like to know how that works because you know, somebody told her it was okay, and frieden says she shouldn't have gone on there. so there's some kind of management problem at the cdc. the other thing i would like to point out this stuff is so serious and in west africa it keeps getting bigger and bigger, and those people are going to go all over the world somehow, get treated, how they going to control that, you know? it's a given fact that the virus is increasing in west africa.

so it is a concern of mine. these people getting out and goggles where in the world. and if a nurse can catch it in a setting in a hospital, what about just regular people? thank you. host: so john, before you go, as far as response is concerned should more be done by the white house and specifically what? caller: well, i think -- i think the white house has to step up and admit that we have a big problem here, and that we can't control in west africa but we can control our border somewhat by instituting some kind of quarantine for anybody coming out of that area because if the virus keeps climbing in population in west africa those people are going to get out, try to get treatment and/or somehow just travel anyway. it's just going to get worse and worse. host: that infected nurse a story that leads the houston chronicle coverage this morning, just to show you the headline.

they characterize it this way, another miss step in ebola battle. we're getting your thoughts. lights hear from bob on the republican line in salem, oregon. how you doing? host: fine, thank you. go ahead. caller: that old movie, outbreak with dustin hoffmann, they're going to bomb a city, and the president hugs and kisses somebody who is sick, takes eight to 21 days for incubation, and now it's in salem, oregon, it's in washington, and it's coming to our country, and the cdc has to get their head out of their -- do-do-do. i'm scared, okay? i go to a lot of clubs, a lot of supermarkets, and it's in america. i don't know, i'm just very concerned. i hope the president doesn't get ebola, and i know we have a joke

for it, i hope. host: the president talked about his interaction with those emery nurses, talking about protocol comes, here is what he said yesterday. >> use myself as an example so the people have a sense of the science here. i shook hands with, hugged, and kissed not the doctors but a couple of the nurses, at emery, because of the work that they did in treating one of the patients. they followed the protocols, they knew what they were doing, and i felt perfectly safe doing so. and so this is not a situation in which like a flu, the risks of a rapid spread of the disease are imminent. if we do these protocols properly, if we follow the steps, if we get the information out, then the likelihood of

widespread ebola outbreaks in this country are very, very low. but i think what we've all learned over the last several weeks is that folks here in this country and a lot of nonspecialized hospitals and clinics don't have that much experience dealing with these issues, and so we're going to have to push out information as aggressively as possible and that's the instructions i provided to my team. host: the "washington times" lead story this morning, the headline bam ignored 2008 cdc transition advice on ebola. this is jim mcalinton.

bob, new york city, good morning, democrats line. caller: good morning and thanks for c-span. you know, stephen colbert did a piece last night showing sean hannidy unnecessarily criticizing president obama for something that was politically meaningless to begin with. so like exercise, it was ridiculous. but i don't think you can criticize obama, but i'll tell you, this frieden, the head of the cdc, to me seems really like an insincere individual. i don't like the way he talks. and i don't believe it. on some level. you had a -- someone from the cdc on c-span a few days ago, a few nights ago, that was asked a question by a caller. and it was a two or three part question, and part of it asked

about the spread of it through either mosquito, et cetera, flies, bugs, and the person didn't answer the question. in fact, it wasn't even addressed. and i know that one of the workers in -- i forget what state, their dog was put down. you know, they were -- i don't want to get too graphic here but dogs have a way of, you know, doing their thing around human fluids. so i think there's like information -- i think frieden probably should resign, and you know, if i was a health worker and i worked with an ebola patient, without anybody telling me anything, i would go home, once i was dismissed from work, i would stay home, i wouldn't leave my home, i would be there for the incubation period, and i would have groceries delivered to my front door. if i had children i would tell them go stay with grandma for three weeks, and i would take

the responsibility on myself. host: that's bob, dr. frieden from the cdc, and the head of national institutes of health will both be at a hearing today. other people testifying, as well. again, you can see that live at noon on c-span. also listen for it on c-span radio. if you want more information about this hearing, go to our web site at c-span.org. debra is from canton, georgia, independent line. hi. caller: good morning. i'm curious, i'm curious that trying to get my thoughts here, little bit nervous, that c-span some months ago i watched this, has one of the main directors who was actually in the infected areas just begging congress to do something. and i think it's been going on

over in the infected areas in africa for more than six months. the way he was ex-treeing himself he was extremely nervous about the outbreak and predcting if they didn't do something soon, if we didn't do something soon to assist them over there, that it could spiral out of control. host: what do you think about the response so far, debra? caller: you mean over there? host: over here in the united states. caller: over here, well, i -- i'm not sure they're telling the whole truth, either. i'm just not really sure, especially when cases are coming up in germany, and -- i mean it's touching everybody. well, not everybody, but you know what i'm saying is it just seems like it's going to be a bigger challenge than what most people feel. host: the global response was part of the president's conference with his cabinet

members. also spoke with video conference according to "the washington post" this morning, video conference with the leaders of britain, germany, france, urging a more concerted response to the epidemic. we're getting your thoughts on the u.s. response to ebola here in the united states. if you think it's enough, lines will be on your screen. this is robert, go ahead. caller: good morning. i'm primarily concerned as to why obama doesn't cancel these flights in from these countries. it seems as if these people keep coming in here and these nurses, i mean the one girl on frontier

airlines, 75 to 100 people were exposed to her, it just seems like there's going to be more of an outcry from the public to get a handle on this epidemic, and that's what it is. and to look at this press conference that obama had with his cabinet yesterday he's reading -- he has no idea what's going on, and this guy frieden is just pulling it from the hip. every time he reads something in the paper he quotes the paper, and he doesn't know. got to get rid of these people and i think obama has to put himself -- when he sends our troops over there, 3,000 troops to take care of this, and all of them are exposed to this situation, and now the public is exposed in the country, i think obama has really got to get himself together. host: members of congress weighing in on this issue, representative gardner talking about that hearing that you -- that we talked about, you can see live at noon. i'll be at a hearing tomorrow to discuss solutions to stop the spread of ebola, including my call for a travel ban.

steven finch ner, adding his response. againers just some of the members who have weighed in this morning, including the house speaker, as well. we're getting your thoughts on the u.s. reaction to and your thoughts on if it's enough. sylvia, broken arrow, oklahoma, hi there. caller: hi. how are you? host: good morning. how are you? caller: i'm blessed. and so are you. i have three questions. host: go ahead. caller: are you there?

host: go ahead. you're on. caller: okay. the first question is, we have a blessed president that last month he made three announcements that they were trying -- he was trying to contain it, find out where the main source of this deadly disease, there's no experimental drug that an individual can receive to get help. they've been talking like me and you and others, but i want to say this, is that he did a whole lot sending help and medicine over to the middle east countries over there, in africa, since the world thinks that this junk came from one location. individuals i believe that the airlines need to be shut down, transportation needs to be shunt down because you don't know who

got it. even the children are suffering, even in the schools, they're taunting one another, saying oh, you might have ebola, so i want to know what are the schools, superintendents, what are they saying about the children that are in schools, that can get this from an individual that looks okay but they're not okay? host: that's sylvia in oklahoma. and this is mike from monroe, georgia, independent line. caller: how are you all this morning? good morning, america. i think they ought to stop the travel in africa. this to me seems like it would be the best way to prevent it from coming over here, because if you stop and think about it, we got it over here, because somebody traveled from over there. i think the president needs to take a second look at this, and as far as the cdc man if you've

been paying attention to him seems like their guidelines have changed every day. i think that playing catch up to this. i think they're way behind, they were way behind going to of a ay today. and they're way behind here. and we're in trouble if this can get out of hand in a hurry. host: i will continue taking your calls on this. jim from florida, good morning, go ahead, please.

you are on. caller: good morning. my main concern is another topic that never seems to get covered. what about the insect born infections? you got areas and villages where there is infection and that, doesn't anybody seem to think they can attack that can transmit this once they land on the soiled laundry or even mosquitoes? i mean, it's a virus. what about the west nile virus transmitted by months key tows? what about insect control? this doesn't seem to be covered along with that. and that is my comment. thank you. host: larry up next, from south memphis, tennessee, democrats line. caller: good morning. host: hi. caller: i blames republicans for this more than president obama, we should have a surgeon general, when we are having problems like this, and i blame them for cutting the funding for

the cdc. it's mostly being followed. now they're trying to blame president obama. somebody needs to call these republicans out. host: what do you think a is your general general would do? you can continue your thoughts. hps. caller: good morning, c-span and thank you for c-span. pedro, i feel like this. it's similar to the aids epidemic back in the 70s and 80s. it can really be transmitted in any kind of direction, from -- what about our currency? like the nurses that touched cars that, whatever, did these people not have money that they paid for airline tickets and it spread that way? first and foremost, the

republican party has broke this country. we are not prepared for any kind of anything. people here in tennessee are suffering and struggling. and people throughout the world are struggling also. host: why do you direct those concerns specifically to the republican party? caller: because -- because the funding and the flashing of all of the programs kill the nurse careers, the health care professionals don't have the tools to work with. they barely can afford toilet paper in hospitals. we're not equipped to have anything. inflation, no money, people are poor, people can't take their children to the doctors and get medicine. host: if you noticed, louer gas prices around where you live you may have noticed that.

lower gas prices or oil prices around the world also a concern for especially oil producing countries. from massachusetts this is chris on our republican line. caller: yes. my main concern is looking forward to what the -- with the

amount of beds that are there for ebola patients, and i heard there's a total of 27, and if we had the incidence in the boston area, what might happen to the patients, and where could they go and how would they be transported to one of the main hospitals? host: hospital preparedness that's your main issue? caller: yes, and transporting. also there's just -- i heard a total of just 27 beds, less than 30. host: what do you think about the calls for travel bans? caller: i just -- i think it might be too late if there's a travel ban, if there's a big incident somewhere, something is -- you know, it starts to spread in one location, and my concern is that there isn't enough beds to take care of people right now. and also, if there was a metropolitan airport where a

large amount of people, two, three, four people came in, it would be difficulty. host: john from florida, democrats line, hello. caller: yes, good morning. host: you're on. caller: yes. my thinking is by watching the news on the report, the presbyterian hospital in dallas is incapable or misleading the public and they should be immediately isolated, all the patients have to be moved out, and then those two affected nurses should be sent to the qualified hospitals such as in atlanta, for treatment. now is not the time to blame who, blame the cdc or obama. it's the time we have to take action, immediately, prevent ebola outspread. i heard that china has ebola success produced, so we should try to get those medicines to

u.s. to test it out, see if it's effective. and then the obama should issue executive order to control the ebola, not let the state or federal -- the city to handle the problem, because it's a nationwide problem, it's spread out to the united states, will be very difficult to control. that's my suggestion. host: that was john in florida, and speaking of florida an incident broke out last night in the debate over the two men vying to be florida's next governor, governor rick scott and his rival, charlie christ. this incident being called fan gate. you saw it if you watched the debate on c-span. for those of you who didn't here is a bit of what took place yesterday. >> ladies and gentlemen, we have an extremely pay cruel yarr situation right now. we have. governor charlie christ.

governor, florida governor rick scott, our incumbent governor and the republican candidate for governor is also in the building. governor rick scott, we have been told that governor scott will not be participating in this debate. now, let me explain what this is all about. governor christ has asked to have a fan, a small fan, placed underneath his podium. the rules of the debate that i was shown by the scott campaign say that there should be no fan, somehow there is a fan there and for that reason ladies and gentlemen i am being told that

governor scott will not join us for this debate. ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, this is a debate. rose flary good row, i don't know, what can we say? >> well -- host: again, the miami herald goes on to report it was rick scott who emerged six minutes later to start the debate. the miami herald also saying that on stage scott went on offense quickly but some of his supporters fretted the fan incident could be a defining and damaging moment for then cook bent. you want to see that whole thing. if you do go to our web page, part of our campaign 2014 coverage at c-span.org, to watch that incident and the actual events and issues that got debated yesterday in the contest for florida's governor. again, find out more at

c-span.org. back to your calls on white house response to ebola and if you think it's enough. this is washington, d.c., independent line, chris, good morning. chris, go ahead, please. caller: good morning. thanks for taking my call. yeah, i just had a couple different pointed i wanted to make. the first point i think a lot of the fear right now, especially being driven by the media, is irrational. i think the coverage has been overblowned. we've only had one documented case of a guy traveling from liberia over here. his family never contracted this disease. he's alive, not cincinnati. he wasn't contagious, only two health care workers contracted the disease because they had intimate contact with him, changing his -- cleaning up his bodily fluids and such. i think the focus needs to be more so on protecting the health care workers and getting them

trained and up to speed, making sure all the hospitals and all the necessary protocols and guidelines are in place in the event of another person arriving from overseas with this. again, i think that's highly unlikely. i think a travel ban would also be premature at this point. i think most people who are suggesting it do not understand how international travel work. there are no direct flights that come in from liberia, guinea, or sierra leone. host: gary from georgia, republican line, hi. caller: good morning. how are you? host: fine, thanks. go ahead, please. caller: thanks for c-span. yes, i just think, you know, it's been handled, you know, just terribly, you know. i don't know where the breakdown is, you know, whether they need to replace the cdc guy or -- i mean, you know, when the nurses

come out, union comes out and has such disdain, you know, somehow we're missing the mark as far as getting the appropriate information to these people who know how to treat this. i feel terrible for them. and really, you know, no sign of getting it right, in my opinion. i don't know what the secret is to having these guys trained properly, but my goodness, i watched this morning the doctor try to put on the gas garb on te fox station and coming out of a room. i mean, that is -- it's just spread -- you know, tremendously off his garments. so i just hope and pray for the country they get it right. there's so much at stake. host: if you go to the page of "the new york times," they have several photographs that talk about these containment suits that you have probably heard about, talking about containment

suits that were originally issued by cdc guidelines, goggles, mask, one layer of gloves and gown that covers the arms and body from neck to mid thigh. you fast forward to the current level three suit as it's shown, it shows quite a different suit with a field hood, thicker outer glove, the seams of the suit that are taped, a breathing package suit made of material that's difficult to tear. again, to get the full effect of that you want to go to the page of "the new york times" on the web site, as well, kind of gives you the pictures to show you what's going on when it comes to protected gear. diana from wisconsin, democrats line, hi. caller: hi, thanks for taking my call. my thought is that there is a small amount of people in congress especially that are fear mongering people out there, and unfortunately they have tied to a lot of media waves, and television programs, and the

correct information is not going out all over this country the way it should be. equalized. this is a very nasty, nasty virus, very unsafe virus, but if people are just try to get onboard and listen to the experts, that's what they're they're for, this could be contained. as far as texas goes, that was a private hospital. the cdc could only do whatever they allowed them to do. the cdc could only hear whatever they toll them. so unfortunate for the people who worked there and other people who had been there. and i hope that they have learned a lesson now that this is an important thing. just because it has federal government tied into it doesn't mean that you should walk away from it and make your own rules. host: one of the things that came out from that cabinet hearing yesterday was the

president's desire to see rapid response teams to potential new outbreaks of ebola in the u.s. here is what he had to say. >> what we've been doing today is reviewing exactly what we know about what has happened in dallas, and how we're going to make sure that something like this is not repeated, and that we are monitoring, supervising, overseeing in a much more aggressive way exactly what's taking place in dallas initially and making sure that the lessons learned are then transmitted to hospitals and clinics all across the country. first of all, what i've directed the cdc to do is that as soon as somebody is diagnosed with ebola, we want a rapid response team, a s.w.a.t. team, essentially from the cdc to be on the ground as quickly as possible, hopefully within 24 hours, so that they are taking the local hospital step by step through exactly what

needs to be done and making sure that all the protocols are properly observed, that the use of protective equipment is done effectively, that the disposal of that protective equipment is done properly, that the key thing to understand about this disease is that these protocols work. we know that because they've been used for decades now in ebola cases around the world, including the cases that were treated in emery and in nebraska. so if they're done properly, they work. but we have to make sure that understandably certain local hospitals that may not have that experience are walking -- walked through that process as carefully as possible and going to make sure this rapid response team can do that. host: again, if you want to see that full statement from the

president, c-span.org is the way to do it. to keep up with campaign 2014 related issues the front page of the milwaukee journal sentinel out of wisconsin talks about latest polling in that state for governor. governor walker his democratic candidate challenger mary burke currently tied at 47% each. and that's from marquette university law school, which released the poll yesterday. both of these folks will debate this coming friday, live, 8:00. you can see that on c-span. again, our main channel, 8:00, the wisconsin governor's debate takes place then. and it's part of our coverage of campaign 2014. maxine, new baltimore, michigan, high there. caller: good morning, pedro. thank you for taking my call. first of all i have to say i do not trust this government. i do not trust it whatsoever. they have dropped the ball so many times and they've lied about the ebola to start with. i watched on tbs a special on

the ebola, a man caught it in africa, all he did was touched the bed of a patient and he caught it. they don't even understand how this virus is transmitted. and now it's just -- it's mind-boggling to me, how they can say that they're experts when they don't even know what they're doing. it's -- we'll catch it the next time, and 24 hours for response team, that's too long. this virus will grow. host: from norris town, pennsylvania, republican line, this is cliff, good morning. caller: good morning. how are you, sir? host: thank you. go ahead. caller: i'm under the understanding that the president's primary concern is to protect the citizens of our country. if that's the case why didn't

obama decide to allow these ebola patients to come to our country? why didn't he restrict travel from people that are obviously infected with this disease? host: from georgia, this is georgia, gonzalez, louisiana, democrats line, hi. caller: good morning. host: hi. caller: people need to calm down, because number one, we need a different blood type in order to get the serum. you have to understand logic. i cannot give you blood if you're not compatible with me so therefore we need different blood types so it becomes universal serum for everybody. may god bless all of us. thank you. host: off of twitter, jack hutton adds his thoughts this morning.

the story was first reported by nbc. brian from massachusetts, independent line. caller: yes. host: brian, you're on. go ahead. caller: i think they should close the border, put machine

guns every hundred feet, and shoot anything that tries to cross it. and also they should ban any flights from there. this let stuff spread over there, give some wildlife a place to live. the thing for this country, it's illegal. they can't vote, they can't say anything, and it's destroying our country, it's lowering the wages. we need to put a stop to it. if the american people don't stand up for that we are doomed. host: one more call, this is from new york. sheila is on the line. hello. caller: hi. good morning. host: hi. caller: i think that many things should happen, especially mostly in west africa where people are suffering terribly, but minimally here i think there should be short-term quarantines on people entering the country from west africa, rather than waiting for someone to demonstrate that they have the

disease and then trying to i can't teen everybody they might have had contact with. i think maybe short term quarantines coming into the country would, you know, provide some level of safety from spreading it. but mostly the work has to be done in west africa where people that truly, truly are suffering. host: how would you rate the response so far? caller: i think that it's people are just learning as they go. there's an idea that there's a lot of safety here but i don't see that. host: again, our next guest joining us this morning will not only talk about the federal response but the congressional response, as well. this as a hearing takes place at noon today. specifically looking at the response, it will feature the heads of the cdc and nih at noon. susan ferrechio from the washington examiner will talk about that, hearing the presidential response. other issues as it enters so close to the midterms. she will be up next.

we'll hear from one of the members from texas who will be at that hearing, that's representative gene green who will join us to give his take on u.s. response and what should be done. again, as part of our coverage we've been showing you sections of these debate which you can catch in the entirety at c-span.org. it was in last night's third and final debate in the kansas u.s. senate race, greg orman, senator pat roberts, they debated immigration, taxes the farm bill and u.s. foreign policy. here is some of that debate. >> how should we deal with the ebola epidemic, senator robert? >> the ebola epidemic along with isis shows you how we should secure the border and not be grabbing amnesty, but i -- i issued a statement just a couple days ago, why can't we do now what we know we're going to have to do down the road? and that is to have a quarantine on west africa, stop the plane

traffic, the air traffic from west africa to the united states. we ought to get our best and brightest to that country just as fast as we can. the world health organization just said if we do not take action, within the next 60 days, we could lose 10,000 people a week. that's a humanitarian disaster, but again this all goes back to isis, ebola, and the other problems that we see on the border. we must secure the border and secure the national security of our fellow americans. >> okay. thank you, sir. mr. or plan? >> ebola is a serious issue and we need to have a serious coordinated public health response to it that includes sending the best and brightest over to west africa to deal with that problem. i also believe that we should suspend air travel with west africa for the time being until the crisis is contained.

but this goes back to sort of a crisis in leadership. you know, senator roberts has come back and has made very strong statements about ebola when he's back in kansas, but it just came out the other day that when he was in washington last month, he skipped a hearing on the ebola virus. and so i think it's inappropriate to talk tough here and yet when you had an opportunity to do something about it, senator, you chose to skip the hearing. and i think that's a real problem for kansas. >> rebuttal, senator roberts. >> the hearing was held out of session in september. it was held on the health education and pensions commit e a. nothing of substance came of it. we have a crisis of leadership all right, with regards to this whole situation. i think that the administration especially the president has been two steps behind and asleep at the wheel. we ought to do now, he just said that this was a much -- he will have a much more aggressive program. we don't know what it is, of course, yet, but we're going to have a much more aggressive program. it is the president that i think

that we have to look to for this kind of leadership, and we're looking forward to his plan and strategy. we don't know it yet. we have to do this now. >> let's -- >> the crisis in leadership in washington is on both sides of the aisle, and senator while you didn't attend the hearing on ebola it's come out that you didn't attend two out of three hearings in the agriculture committee, a committee you want to lead someday. and so i think that crisis of leadership is a crisis of leadership that you share in, too, sir. >> warn journal continues. host: joining us now, susan ferrechio with the with a examiner. there's a hearing today on the ebola crisis. what do legislatures want to learn? >> i think we're going to see lawmakers do a couple thing its. they want to show they're getting involved and not sitting back and doing nothing when it looks like the public is

becoming increasingly concerned about ebola in the united states. this is the energy and commerce committee. they will be interviewing people from the cdc about what they're doing to try to control this. and i think what we're going to hear is probably eight lot of what we already her about new protocols they want to put in place, increased staffing at hospitals where there are ebola patients, and additional efforts to keep the health care workers protected. and i also think you're going to hear a lot of talk about how the virus is passed or not passed, about whether or not there should be a travel ban, whether or not there should be other methods of quarantining people who come in from other countries that are afflicted by ebola, all of these things are going to be part of the discussion. forget you got to go through each lawmaker, they're all going to have questions and they're he getting questions from people back in their districts who are calling them up, saying hey, what's going on? just listening to your callers, that's what they're hearing, too. they're going to went to get

these answers from the cdc and other experts to find out what should we be doing here? congress is out of session right now, won't be back until november 12. it's important for them to look like, you know, congress with a low approval rating they don't want to lack like they're just sitting back on their hell heels this happen. they need to get them in front of them at the table, ask lots of questions and that's what we're going to hear today. host: the man in the hot seat is tom frieden? guest: that's correct. tom frieden has been there since 2009. he's been relatively low-key. you don't hear much about the cdc until there's something like this that occurs. and i think we'll hear him again explain the new protocols that they announced earlier this week to protect health care workers and to limit or stop the spread of this to health care workers who treat ebola patients. i think you'll hear him talk about regrets about the way the initial case was handled in dallas, about not having cdc

staff on the ground more quickly, and in gritter numbers. i think you're going to hear him talk about whatever shortcomings they think may have happened in the first case versus what they're doing now to deal with the two health care workers who have been diagnosed, and also about the really interesting isolation hospitals, places where they can treat patients with contagious diseases and specialized isolation units, one of them is at emory university in atlanta, they moved a second health care worker there yesterday to treat her at that hospital. i think you're going to hear him talk more about that today and the possibility of using those hospitals more, if there are additional cases diagnosed in the coming days. i think that's going to be a big part of it. you will hear him talk about travel ban. we've already heard the cdc director say he's not a big fan of a trial ban, doesn't think it will do good. he thinks it will do harm. a lot of people disagree with that. there's likely to be back and forth with limb and lawmakers

who disagree about whether or not there should be a travel ban. host: we heard from some lawmakers already calling for his ouster. what's the likelihood you'll hear some of that talk during this hearing today? guest: you may hear that. there has been just a few people who have been calling for that. it's not the gavel lynch of people calling for resignations. i know pete sessions of texas called for his resignation. he's a relatively high-ranking republican in the house. a few others have, as well, talked about that, because they feel like the cdc did not act quickly enough to begin with. i think you may hear a little bit of that today. i don't think it's going to be widespread at this point. people calling for his resignation. he's under a lot of criticism, no question. i think he will be criticized, i think people will question what he's doing. and but i think he's got another chance at this point. i don't feel like it's the end of the line for the cdc director. he's got some time here to get this thing under control.

of course, that could change if, say, in the course of the day we hear about another diagnosis, if we hear more about maybe transmission from the second health care worker who boarded an airplane. there could be more of that just to add to the sense of outrage that some lawmakers are expressing about why the cdc did not take more action to make sure these health care workers weren't moving around during a period when they might be contagious. host: again, that hearing is at noon today, featuring the cdc director and others. watch it on c-span, listen to it on c-span radio. you can see it there. our guests joining us to talk about the congressional response and the white house response to the ebola outbreak in the united states. susan ferrechio is with the washington examiner. she is their chief congressional

correspondent. the first call comes from donald in maryland, democrats line. donald, go ahead. you're on. caller: good morning. i think everybody needs to look at this as a national crisis, and quit making it political. you know, this is a disease that can touch any and everyone of us. we must work as americans and come together as a whole. this nation needs us all to come together and this is the time that we must come together. we got to stop the foolishness. second point is, we're independent of each other, and what happened to the waist when it gets to the treatment plant for those people working those treatment plants, how are they working or anybody looking at the water treatment plant and saying you know, when the sludge comes in, this disease is in that splodge, these people -- just looking at health care

workers. we got to look at the water system, because it's interdependent. it gets to the treatment plant. we're looking at those people that far down the road. host: thanks. guest: interesting the caller mentioned politics. i think politics is part of this now, because congress is not in session but we are a couple weeks out from a big mid term election, two, three weeks away. so it's important for everybody's position themselves running, to look as though they are taking action. i think the caller is right, politics is certainly being injected into this by everybody. the president is looking -- wants to look like he's being author tait i have on this. congress, the same. republicans would love to paint democrats as not doing a good enough job handling the crisis, as being in charge of the administration and the cdc. you'll see some of that going on, as well. certainly you will.

but i think even in this case though politics will take a little bit of a back seat to the urgency that everyone feels in trying to find a way to address something like this quickly. so i think that's a great point the caller made. the water system issue, you think of all kinds of possibilities here, you know. the person who rode the airplane, took public transportation to get to the airplane, who else did you come in contact with, all these questions underscores the difficulty with a disease like this, and it can spread very quickly. i think that's something we'll hear discussed today at the hearing. host: from sun valley, california, tony up next. tony is on the independent line. hi. caller: hi. how is it going? there was a gentleman earlier kind of putting blame on the republicans, you know, throwing in the politics. and mentioned about the surgeon general, and he was obvious question is what would the is your general general do now.

i think he wouldn't just coordinate a response here he would also be able to coordinate a response to the public misinformation. right now we have a bunch of people that are panicking, not really knowing what to worry about, just fearing for something that they don't have very much information on. i think that that's where the surgeon general comes in very handy at this moment. i have to blame, you know, inaction and dysfunction in congress, which has been brought on by the wave of freshmen republicans. guest: i think the president really actually best handle might be tom frieden. he got his start treating tuberculosis in new york city, and also in india where it was a huge problem, helped get it under control there. he's got vast experience dealing with controlling outbreaks. and i think that that's one of the reasons why you're not going to see a medical for him to step

down, not yet. because he probably is in the best position to figure out a way to get this under control. not only here, but also in africa, which i think the point he made is that the best way to control this here is to stop the outbreak in africa, because if you don't do that, it's going do spread around that continent ad may be impossible to keep people out of the united states who might have caught the disease. surgeon general it's true we have an acting surgeon general. and surgeon general normally isn't super visible person. they're more like a public face of health for the united states. and it's certainly underscoring the idea that there should be some kind of czar, somebody in charge of this whole thing who should be the face of this going forward. ..

in this particular instance, but democrats are right in that many government agencies lost staffing and money, including other parts of the government because of this thing that we

call the sequester, that they are trying to undo right now, trying to refund that money. both sides can claim victory on that one. they have gotten additional money to deal with this. i suspect there could be more money coming when congress gets back, depending on how this thing is going. don't forget, we are also sending troops to africa to help combat this at source, about 4000. it is not as if the government is not spending money on this. for democrats to make that claim, probably not true. , bobby.rth carolina democrats line. caller: i have a question. i was listening to c-span a few weeks ago and someone called in and said the united states had .nvented the ebola virus that that the cdc done in

-- did invent some sort of virus in 2010, so why would you invent a disease and not come up with a cure for it as well? if it ever gets out of the laboratories, you could get care find aithout having to cure for it while it is out already. that was my only question. why would you invent a disease? i think you might be thinking about the origins of ebola, which comes from monkeys in africa. eventually, it's great to humans there. it is possible the cdc would try to replicate a disease to try to find a vaccine. certainly, their storage of diseases has been controversial. smallpox, anthrax. there have been cases where lab workers have been accidentally exposed to the disease, has been

left unsecured. certainly some questions about the cdc handling of diseases, but what they try to do is figure out a way to come up with vaccines and that is why they have the diseases at the cdc, to find a way to stop people from catching them. california.ide, jim. republican line, go ahead. i think the cdc can contain this. isis and al qaeda will use this across the southern border. we might be able to contain it. i have heard people express fears about that, too, including some public officials who say it is worrisome that maybe someone could harness this virus and use it as a weapon or

any virus. anthrax, remember the capital was gripped in fear, years ago, when anthrax was sent to the capital. there is always a fear of that, that somebody will be able to get ahold of this virus and somehow spread it around. it is definitely something that people on capitol hill are talking about and thinking about . i don't know what plans they had to try to stop something like that from happening, but definitely something people are talking about. host: how much of the midterm talk and debate, how much of that will become ebola-based? guest: it is funny that we have these october surprises that comes along before an election and suddenly dominates the campaign trail. this will be part of it. each side would try to use it to their advantage. -- obamans administration, why are they handling this differently?

democrats will say the opposite. there is a poll that just came out where two thirds of respondents said they were concerned about this either mildly or seriously, about what will happen with a bullet in our country, whether it will spread here. it is dominating the news, therefore, it will be talked about on the campaign trail. when people go to vote, is that what they will be thinking about? i think the economy is still the dominant issue that voters will have on their mind when they cast their ballot, foreign policy, what is happening in the middle east and our actions with the islamic terror state. those are the one and two dominant issues right now. it is hard to know how something like this will fit in. we have a few weeks left here, so the cdc can look like they are steering this in the right direction, no more outbreaks, no more people coming into the country, but let's say in a few

weeks we have a couple more people arrived and it spreads more, things do not look like they are under control -- this will not help democrats because we have a democrat in the white house and people naturally blame the president because he is the guy in charge. host: tammy is next from south dakota. you are on with susan ferrechio. go ahead. guest: good morning and thank you for taking my call. know, if duncan did not come to texas and give the -- they said that they tested his friend in africa, and he caught it, and then when he came here he was with his family and friends, and they never got it. how is it transmitted, how could that happen?

is a really interesting aspect of the disease. i only came to understand and by listening to tom friedman explained it over and over. spreads theke it easiest when the person is quite ill and having vomiting and other problems that spreads the disease more easily. if you are just sitting there with a fever, you are not bleeding or throwing up, spreading it is not necessarily going to happen. these nurses caught the disease from handling the viral matter that the -- duncan was producing when he was very sick. i think that is how you are looking at the transmission at this point. someone with a fever who is not sneezing, coughing -- even sneezing which they say will not necessarily spread it. i think that is why his family did not catch it but the health care workers did.

james, oxon hill, maryland. democrats line. guest: thank you for taking my call --caller: thank you for taking my call. ago when the africa health care workers contracted this, i called in to c-span for the first time and understood my opposition to that and said why would they bring these people to this country and exposed 300 million human beings to this deadly disease when they could have treated those folk over there? i think these three people were cured, but the situation with mr. duncan, you will never pointing a that temperature device at somebody's face is supposed to appease someone's fear and anger about allowing the people to come here , when every time you do this, you expose the rest of the population. death does not care about your

political persuasion. it is all about killing you. guest: it is interesting listening to the callers. a lot of people saying how worried they are, let's just stop people from coming here. some think that eventually the administration will impose a travel ban if things do not get under control in sierra leone, where the disease is spreading particularly quickly. i'm not sure what they will do. it is hard to say whether they will decide -- succumbed to this fear that the public has. it would be very controversial if they do. you heard last night the house speaker, john boehner, say that he wanted the president to consider a travel ban from these three nations in western africa. it is out there. it is possible it will happen, i'm not sure that it will, but hearing the public talk about it, it's interesting. people are really concerned

about this. sometimes that will influence the administration to take action. host: as far as the director, tom frieden, has president obama expressed confidence in him, concerns, what has been said about him? guest: he has been neutral. he did that come out and say i have full and complete confidence. the administration said they thought the cdc had exhibited some shortcomings at the start , ande crisis in dallas that they feel things need to change. theink that is suggested of president sending out a warning signal to the cdc. we do not like how this has gone so far. we are going to watch and see if you can string things out. that is the impression i get from the administration right a little bit on probation right now. they are watching what he is doing and they want to see how things are handled, moving

forward, at this point. host: the president canceled trips yesterday and today because of this. do you see this continuing? guest: it could. we are that close to an election on the public could sour idea of our commander in chief disappearing on the campaign trail to raise money instead of being here in washington to deal with a health crisis that people are really afraid of. the administration can be really responsive to that sort of thing. however, if days go by and things seem to be under control, no more outbreaks, the health care workers are improving, no more spread among the 125 people considered most at risk, i think we will see him back out there. they need the money. that is also an important factor for the democrats as we head into november 4. host: susan ferrechio with the "washington examiner."

we are talking about the congressional and white house response, taking questions about their effort. vivian from pennsylvania. republican line. hello. guest: where is rick perry? he is overseeing the department of health and we all know that they have more say so in what is going on in texas. nowis he in europe right when he should be out there every day giving updates? no one has taken him to task, no one has taken the local department of health. it seems like the media is not asking them the pertinent questions. the cdc only gives recommendations. it is up to the hospitals and the local department of health to follow them. i think that you be more people held responsible other than just barack obama and the cdc. guest: two good points.

rick perry is returning to the events dates immediately, i believe. he has cut short his european tour. be hiss supposed to attempt to burnish his foreign-policy expertise as he is a potential 2016 republican presidential candidate. he stopped his tour and is coming back to texas, he announced. i think you will hear from him soon. in fact, i can almost guarantee that he will be out in front of the cameras talking about this. you also bring up the point about who is really responsible for dealing with ebola crisis. repeatedlyd this from officials and nonmedical experts who say it is the local health departments that are primarily in charge of this. health,s department of the hospitals where the patients are being treated. they need to be the first line of defense against this. i have heard a lot of people say this. so you really have a split right now where there is this idea that the local health apartment

is supposed to be doing more to do with this, yet, people are also wondering, should the cdc be the thing in and controlling all of it? i think we are seeing a transition now where the cdc is definitely getting more involved. at first they treated it like they do other epidemics, letting hospitals take the initiative, but now they are putting their team in faster and in greater numbers, and with more experts and equipment, to do with this. so you will have a lot of cooks in the kitchen some of which could be another problem, but the cdc has kind of taken charge at this point over the local health department in texas. host: u.s. by the containment centers in the u.s., four locations. will part of these discussions in congress about money to open up more of these containment units? think so. each one only has a certain capacity. one of the interesting questions

on the conference call was the cdc director yesterday -- what exactly will they do if they have more patience than they do isolation units? that is a question that every hospital will be facing. so their answer was, they are moving the second health care worker who was diagnosed this university emory isolation unit. we have others at nih. i don't know how big those are, what are the capacities at those institutions, how many people can we put their? -- there? it is a huge question, they are toensive, are we ready handle a widespread epidemic where we need to isolate people? that is certainly one of the problems in africa. there is no way to isolate these patients. that will be part of the discussion on capitol hill today. host: phil, pennsylvania.

democrats line. to know how you figure the cdc did not drop the ball or is not just lying to you when they say the health care workers that was taking care of that man in texas, they would watch every day and take their temperatures every day, and that woman was allowed to leave the state and get on a plane. that is strictly in the protocol to keep her there. they were supposed to be watching her every day. if they are lying to you about that, they are lying about how the disease is spread. they are dressed up like the michelin man and they still caught the disease. now you are in an airplane sitting in a seat that should have been decontaminated. the cdc initially declare that the health care workers, 75 or so, that had direct contact with the original patient, they were going to do self-monitoring.

take their own temperatures, isolate themselves, make sure they were not developing symptoms of the disease. we learned both patients still had contact with others, one got on an airplane with a temperature of 99 degrees which is technically a fever. because of that now we hear the cdc say they are taking a tougher stance on this and are prohibiting travel -- public travel by any of the 70 or so people they are monitoring right now. the cdc has gotten incrementally tougher as the days have gone by and this thing has spread a bit. that was a big question. the question you asked is a question a lot of people ask. the nurses were certainly wearing protective gear, but there is question about whether they put the gear on the wrong way, or they put too much on, and when they took it off, it was easy to transmit the virus. we heard the nurses union talk

about lack of protocol, lack of training, oversight, all kinds of various shortages for how they were monitored in trying to deal with the transmissibility of this. the cdc responded to that yesterday by saying we are putting our own people there to monitor every step of the way so there are not any more questions or gaps in how people are protected, held the health care workers are protected. should seerd, now we this thing not spreading to new health care workers because the cdc says that they are there to make sure that if there were gaps in how people were protected, now there will not be because we will be there making sure people are putting the gear on properly, taking it off properly, and handling the patients properly. a single person at the white house overseeing these various agencies in response to this event? guest: that would be the head of the health and human services. she was on a conference call

with reporters yesterday and said very little other than they were coordinating with homeland security on ensuring that the nation was cap safe from the spread of ebola. over to the cdc director in terms of how they would try to control the spread of the disease here. i think there has been some call my folks, lawmakers and others, , a let's create a czar position to have someone oversee all of this. there has been some discussion of that. so far we have not appointed anyone to that position. that could change. host: cleveland, ohio. hello. guest: i think we need to close our borders --caller: i think we need to close our borders. we cannot just ban people from west africa. they may have gone to another country and may have taken a plane to the united states.

we ought to close our borders. we already had an incident here in ohio. all of us are wearing -- worried. get their jobe to done, so i will not put them down and i do not think the director should be criticized for his job, but we need to close our borders. we cannot let anyone in. just like the first man, he went over to west africa to visit and then came back, and boom. host: are you still there? what is your level of worry about this, particularly since it is coming to your state and city? ofler: you have a lot people talking in the background. i cannot hear you. guest: are you worried -- host:

are you worried about the possibility of ebola where you live? caller: yes, i'm concerned. guest: what are the arguments made by people who say that we should not impose travel bans is that if we do that, people may get in that we do not monitor. right now we are monitoring five coverts which supposedly 95% of all passengers arriving from west africa daily, about 150 people, the monitored for the pictures and other signs of the disease. that is the big argument being made there. the question of closing the we havetoo -- definitely heard people call for that, and increasingly so. i don't know if a travel ban could be coming. it is under discussion but a lot of people. it will unfortunately take more cases before pressure is put on the it ministration to do this. the key is controlling this in west africa, stopping it there,

and they say it is easier to do that by not closing the border. host: you may want to read alan today talking about sealing the border as part of discussions that go on about ebola. just to show you the article. arkansas. charles. hello. let's say one person wrote on the airplane and there were 100 people on. and those people had three friends. sudden, 300 people you have to follow. cdc said they would contact and monitor. you have people on the telephone -- i cannot hear you. in the background you have people talking. the time you compound that, that could be 8100 people within a day or two. they are going to follow all of

those people? that does not make sense to me. if you do not want to shut down the border, there is no way you can stop this. dr. what the cdc director had to say about this yesterday, which is that he did not think the health care worker should have gotten on the airplane, that she should of stayed off public trepidation, but the possibility of transmission was "extremely low." he said that because her fever was below 100.4, which is the temperature where it is believed to is more transmissible. it is difficult to transmit -- not impossible -- but hard unless the person is really exhibiting signs of the disease. which this health care worker was not. the assurances from the cdc include the fact that she was not showing symptoms of the disease.

and that means it is very unlikely that those 132 passengers caught anything from her or spread it to others, that they know. why contact all these passengers? they are doing it just to be extra cautious, to make sure they are not leaving any stone unturned here in terms of trying to control a potential outbreak. the possibilities of it being transmitted are lilo. i know people do not always trust the cdc these days -- if you look at the people who pass the disease, it is not the people who knew duncan. towards theding second half of that 21-day period. the people that cockpit are the people that really handled duncan when he was in the throes of this thing. front-line workers dealing with bodily fluids directly. plane, even if you are sitting next to somebody,

the chances of you catching it according to the cdc is zero. if you look at it that way, it makes sense the cdc is saying we're not particularly worried that people on the flight caught the disease, but she was right that it could have been potentially dangerous if it was the day after. what has been the response from these other countries that the president has called on? guest: people are responding with the u.s. is certainly taking the lead role. we are sending 4000 troops to africa to deal with this. everybody has to get involved. europe is very worried about this. have been cases in spain. people are concerned about it. the u.s. is again called on to take the lead response. that has also been controversial. people question whether we should be sending our military to deal with an issue like this. the theory is if we can stop it

there -- the cdc director is confident we can get it under control. it is just a matter of living good health practices in place. that is difficult to do in africa because their health industry is not even close to how things are here. is athey have talked about long-term fight, which is concerning because the longer it goes the more it spreads. people are understandably worried about this. in africa, it is a disaster basically. the u.s. involvement has been controversial. haven, idaho. carried on the independent line. hello, have you ever heard of hemorrhagic fever coming from korea? back in the early 1980's, three out of five marines died through this hemorrhagic fever, and it was contracted because of field

mice. this monkey business that you mentioned coming from africa, in korea, this hemorrhagic fever pops up somewhat frequently every few years. same symptoms. in africa, it is ebola. in korea it is called hemorrhagic fever. protocols,nt on the if we cannot use a word like protocol, because it is misleading, because there is a lack of understanding about the transmission of the virus. has been around for years, we know that. low, this years it is at a record high.

that is why we are seeing it takeover west africa the way it has. i think one of the most interesting things about the disease is the death rate. it seems to fluctuate. in africa it is much higher than here because you do not have the same level of care. right now, the health care worker that was treated first is in stable to good condition now because we were able to treat it from the get-go. handrica, it got out of and it was too hard to treat patients, keep them hydrated, treat them early. i think what the viewer is trying to say is hemorrhagic fever exists all around the world and certainly ebola follows that category. it has gotten to the point where it is getting out of control in africa. host: maxine in florida. independent line. caller: i have two concerns. everyone is hollering about the ban on transportation from those

countries. we have aness president that is thinking things through. there is no nonstop service from those countries to the united states. they are going through other countries. them fromuld ban entering the united states, but what about the people of those citizens of those countries where these people are allowed , where those citizens may have come in contact and could bring that disease to the united states? not necessarily the citizen from the african country. the other question i have is, there are certain diseases also where people can have the disease themselves and the carriers and never show any symptoms of that particular disease themselves.

both great points. that has been under discussion. what do this thing spreads in europe, are we going to ban european travelers from coming here? if someone arrives in liberia or sierra leone, you can see where they come from, and that is how customs and border security are checking people who arrive at these five airports that they have targeted. they can see where they originated from in their travel. even if they stopped over in another country. spreadst, what of it generally because there is no travel ban in europe, and then the europeans come here? of ais part of the fear global pandemic, i suppose, and that is one reason why the administration is so focused on providing resources and troops now in africa to try to help us get under control. cdc is over there working to get

it under control in africa. managed to already get ebola cases down. people are hoping that in these other countries it will eventually be under control as well. host: one more call. daniel in elizabeth bell, pennsylvania. questions.ave two actually, this is a comment. i had heard that there were 50 , would fitla viruses .nto a teaspoon how long does the virus last on a surface? may, the obama administration sent military people to these affected countries. and theys 600 doctors

have treated 58 million people over the years with medical diplomacy. harder surfaces is where the virus can survive the longest. it is not that long, a matter of hours on a hard surface. that is something that people are thinking about. what if somebody gets on a bus or they touched something, door handles. all of this is part of the general worry about how the disease could spread here. i don't think it is at that point, anywhere near that point right now, but everybody wants to know about transmissibility. cdc of the reason is the has been so emphatic about it not being transmissible, yet, people are hearing about transmissibility. two people have it now. it makes it look like the cdc is not being forthcoming with the

public and that is why you hear people calling saying i don't understand this. clearly seems to be a tough disease to understand in terms of how it transmits to people. so far, it is just to health-care workers that had real contact with this patient and not anyone else in the general public. if it stays that way, confidence in the cdc will increase. has a toughden situation on his hands. host: no matter the result of the midterms, congress has a lot to handle after the break. what is the chance ebola gets to the top of the line? happens, will if more if people are catching them more frequently here. more passengers arrive from africa with it, more transmissibility going on. numero bet it will be withor what congress deals on the budget, money matters.

the public cares about this. already you are hearing people get upset about this. people are really focused on this. if it stays that way, congress will respond and they will talk about it and take action. if it stays out of the picture because it is being treated well, no more cases, congress will be back focusing on lame-duck issues that they need to resolve, including a budget bill to fund the government into 2015, which is again something they need to do practically every few months these days. that will be at the top of their list when they come back in november. ebola has the potential to be a real headline here after the november elections. host: susan ferrechio with the "washington examiner," joining us to talk about congress and the white house reaction to ebola. thanks for your time. from one, we will hear of the legislators that will be at that hearing at noon. you can watch it on c-span focusing on ebola.

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like us on facebook, follow us on twitter. host: joining us is representative gene green, representative of texas, a member of the energy and commerce committee. he is here to talk about the hearing that will take place at noon. what are you hoping to hear? guest: this is a work in progress. i want to find out what authority the cdc has to actually order the health care provider to do certain things. i know it is advisory typically. i also want to see how we can fix this problem, the problem in dallas, texas posted. should not have happened. -- respite terry and should not have happened. we have a good panel today. a lot of regulatory agencies have the authority to do with it. our oversight investigation subcommittee is not a legislative committee but all of

us who serve on their also serve on the health subcommittee, energy subcommittee. what we learned today, if we need led inflation, will come back and put it in. will be at theen hearing today, is he handling this well? with: like most physicians a disease or any issue, it is evolving. i want to hear some of the testimony, what he says about what is recently happening, that they did not have a team there quick enough in dallas. they need to have resources, whether it is dallas, new york, or anywhere else. we also do not have a lot of these containment beds. texas presbyterian does not have what ever has, or nebraska. even in texas, we do not have a containment facility. now some hospitals are talking about doing it.

we may need to assist them on the federal level. host: we have heard from two members of congress saying that tom frieden needs to resign from the cdc. would you agree? guest: no, he has been doing a good job, i have been on the health committee since 1997. i have seen a lot of officials come and go. he is serious and he is a problem solver, and that is what we need. host: as far as travel bans, would you be in favor of something like that to keep ebola from spreading in the united states? guest: the administration is slowly tightening things up. we may continue to do that if we continue to see people coming out of these countries with the .pidemic they have to have a visa to come to the united states. to do that, you have to go to our consulate. they could not issue visas. weticularly the issue that had with the gentleman that came hisho ossified -- falsified

application. i do not know yet, we could be there tomorrow. if we see a lot of people coming through with flights from europe. more cases, aw travel ban is something that you would support? i would support a travel ban if we cannot deal with it like we are doing now. these are countries we have worked with historically. liberia was settled by u.s. slaves hundreds of years ago, so we have had relationships with these countries. we are friends with them and that is why we want to help them. we have armies their building hospitals to be able to help them. host: what about funding for the cdc? both sides say the other is responsible for cuts that took place. where do you go from here? guest: in congress, because the budget deficit, although it is down historically in the last out, we we found that

have always had to do with budget cuts. we need to spend our money smarter. there have been budget cuts. , and you will see even states and others who are trying to tighten their belts. maybe some of those cuts went much further and took us away from being prepared from what we have to do now. host: did you support those cuts initially? guest: no, i support expansion of medical research. i think we ought to do more on health care, not less. host: we had bob casey of of sabina: for restoration of cuts. will congress take that up once they get back, or will there be other issues or go to the head of the line? guest: i think you will see that he would we also have what is going on with isis in iraq and syria. there will also need to be budget adjustments to pay for what we are doing over there. i think there will be some opportunities once you get back after the elections to look at

both the health care budget but -- we are undertaken tuning resolution right now that will have to be renewed sometime for december. that is an opportunity to adjust the budget to reflect our need for today, whether it is health care or the military. host: should there be a single person heading this up, and ebola czar, so to speak? guest: i don't know if we need a new one. if you create too much layers of bureaucracy, you lose the folks doing it. i am not a big supporter. we have cabinet officials, we have agency heads. if they do their job, they do not need somebody over them. host: deborah simmons from "the washington times" talks about this. she says -- sports --een hibbett his performance in all of this? isst: the president

listening to his advisers, but this issue did not originate with president obama. to ronaldd czars back reagan. i know the president need some help. the to have somebody, but somebody who is appointed, not confirmed by the senate, overseeing appointed officials who are confirmed. those folks need to do their job instead of have somebody created above them. host: gene green will be at the hearing to talk about ebola with tom frieden. you can see that live at noon. you can ask questions about it now. here are the lines. erica from maryland is up first. you are on, go ahead. caller: good morning. why the u.s.g

public health service have not been called in on this. elite cadre called ready responders who are equipped to handle everything that comes down the pipe related to health care and emergency preparedness. has there been conversations about tasking them with front for ebola patients in america, and even across the world, that is their specialty, public health. guest: i agree with you. that is what we'll find out today at the hearing. i represent houston. devastationcane ike and then before that, katrina. we had 250,000 evacuees from new orleans. we could not have done it with the national public health service even though we have three medical schools in the area and hospitals. they were assets in the tragedy. i agree with you. if we need to bring those folks

in, whether it is dallas or any other place, i have no problems with that. host: sheri from arkansas. independent line. morning.ood i just changed over from cnn a few minutes ago and they are reporting that the second nurse and reportede cdc that she had a low grade fever and someone at the cdc told her it was ok, go ahead and get on the airplane. why -- are they going to answer for this person putting all those people at risk? it makes no sense. this is hearsay, it may have been reported a few minutes ago on a news station, but we do not know if that is true. there are lots of things that come out on an immediate basis that may not be true after you

look at them. we will find that out today. that could be one of the questions of the cdc. if you have someone in the control room that you are monitoring, i don't know if you should let them fly on a plane. frankly, you ought to keep them in an area where they will not contaminate someone if they all of a sudden develop the illness. n is great, but what you hear may not be the breaking facts. story this morning, the nurse got clearance from the cdc before going on. guest: that will be one of our questions today. also the status of what the protocol is for someone in the group that you are monitoring. do you want them going across the country or the world? again, i'm not a physician, but i would not do that. host: what about the hospital hospitalsty --

issue travel bans? guest: they may not have any authority to say that this is what you will do. it is not quite voluntary, but we will find out today from tom frieden. what do you need to make sure you have that authority? theas already talked about fact that they should have sent in a team into dallas earlier. i want to make sure that we have the resources to do that. host: julia from atlanta, georgia. republican line. caller: i am not on the republican line, i am independent. let's go back to aids. it is a well-known fact that aids itself was man-made. some doctors were sent to prison, bailed out, and it was

proven that aids was made. , we do not know how it actually started. we do not know if it was man-made. we know that certain people in the world would love to bring down the population of the people of the world -- guest: first of all, i do not have the information on whether it was greeted by a man -- created by a man. a pretty unusual person to figure out about is how we would control the population. no matter where it came from, we need to deal with it because it is impacting our citizens. the reason we are bringing the doctors back who are volunteering in most cases in west africa, those are u.s.

citizens, and we ought to be able to take care of our own. says a viewer on twitter to ask about the position of surgeon general. it was created for the such situations. there are a lot of nominees that the president said to the senate that had not been confirmed. even though there is not someone officially confirmed, we still have the surgeon general's office. that is part of our health-care network of administration between the national institutes of health, cdc, we have a whole alphabet soup of agencies. including the secretary of health and human services. online them all to be and know what is going on and also be part of the solution instead of sitting back and maybe making mistakes. host: representative gene green is our guest to talk about the response to ebola. walter from ohio. good morning. caller: good morning.

is, this involves convenience for the people that want to fly over from those three countries overseas to the united states. reasons have been cited, family reasons. in hotelsput them up for 21 days, make sure they are not infected, and then let them fly over. .usinessmen can videoconference other people may decide to thepone coming over until situation has been resolved or tampa down in africa. that is my question. there is lots of opportunities, if we had a travel ban, if someone was a businessperson, in library or any of the other countries, there are ways that you can do your business without having to fly. but that will all be on the table. i know at the hearing today we will talk about a restriction on

these is issued in those three countries -- visas issued in those three countries. host: what about the issue that has been talked about today, closing the borders in response to this? guest: it is easier said than done. i know some of the republicans want to close the border near texas and mexico. we have families -- it is just much more difficult to do that. to say it is easy but it is difficult to do it. host: something you would advocate? be ableo, we ought to to deal with the folks who are ill, whether they are in west africa or wherever. we can deal with them without saying that we will shut the country down. host: one of the papers say today there are four of these bio containment units across the u.s. should there be more, will there be -- will that be a topic today? guest: i think so. when i was at our medical

facility in houston, one of the hospitals there was talking about doing what we see in every and the university of nebraska. i think there is one in north dakota. and then one here in the d c area. host: what kind of involvement is there to have a biocontainment unit? guest: it is expensive. texas presbyterian did not have the capability. -- it isto set up this really expensive -- and there has to be cooperation between local funding, state funding. the one that i know of have been a combination of funding from state, local, and federal government. host: what about texas presbyterian's performance in all of this, what would you say about that? guest: it is still early, but the first issue is that the person was sent home after he identified he came from liberia. somebody should have picked that up.

of course, he went home and then came back. maybe they were not prepared for something like ebola. in all honesty, we have a lot of other illnesses in the country that are more threatening to us than ebola. diabetes, obesity. you and i may have more trouble with diabetes someday then we would ever dream of having with ebola. host: would you characterize their actions as negligent? guest: maybe they did not realize the threat that was there, but we will find out then and ask what the cdc knew about. host: kathy from a memory, texas. good morning. --montgomery, texas. caller: i have a question for you. the head of the cdc says that the second there's should not have taken public transportation. whyd you please tell me these infected africans are allowed to fly into our country also? --s african duncan did not

it this african duncan did not lie on his application, we would not be in this predicament. and the family is trying to sue the hospital? this is a disgrace. someone was knew infected, they would not be traveling on any kind of public trepidation. groups, there is a possibility there. they monitor their temperature, if we had known mr. duncan falsified his application, as we understand in liberia, there were mistakes made there, and also when you came to the hospital. our goal is to fix the problems. calling,ther texan this is mike. hello. good morning. thanks for taking my call. i have a question for mr. green. seeing as how he is in the hot , somebody made

the statement a minute or two ago, that we have for facilities -- four facilities that are capable of handling these people scattered out throughout the united states. it will take hundreds and hundreds of facilities to be able to do that. how long will it take for us to be able to build those facilities? that passed away was in contact with probably 100 or more people. now we have a nurse -- we do not know how many people she was in contact with. this thing could load. i want to know how long they are going to jack around and discuss what needs to be done and all of that kind of stuff before they get off of their duff. we are almost $18 trillion in debt in this country right now because they have spent money we do not have. there has been cuts in

all federal programs. because we are trying to get a handle on our debt. but you cannot say that we have too much debt and then expected, with millions of dollars -- expect to come up with millions of dollars to build these facilities. those facilities were partnerships between the states and federal government and local communities. like i said, in the houston area, there is some interest in doing it. i think we need to have a containment lab. we are an international city for air travel. i think we need to a spot them around the country. we may not need every hospital to have this, because it is expensive. most of the time, those facilities are not used, so we are paying for them even though they are not being used, but now we need them. host: from georgia, this is elaine. democrats line. i am kind of all over

the place on this but i just wanted to share some pots. anybody with a tv, this summer, this is why congressional hearings do not make me feel a lot other. the congressional hearings about ebola this summer, people were borders,octors without for example, and other wherezations over there, the first two people treated came from, were begging for certain wings which i understand are sitting around in container ships, not even delivered yet. there were 800 people dead at that point. now we are hearing about 10,000 a week producing. -- pretty soon. now we are going to expose not only 300 million americans but our military. i do have a point.

the crisis in trying to understand our leadership is damaged right now. back, remember the irs situation and the secret service and the cdc losing samples and president obama calling isis the junior varsity -- i hate to interrupt but did you get to your point? caller: we need to help people like doctors without borders and they have been the only ones that have been able to contain it in africa under the worst of circumstances. we could surely learn from them and set up the same sort of things that we are sending our military over to do without building giant hospital containment units. army is over there and there are more troops over there to build a hospitals, not to provide direct care of you you are right, maybe we should have recognized and had it earlier.

we have a lot of members on the war probably raising cain with the president, sending our troops over there to build a hospital. hopefully those folks and doctors with orders -- without borders have a facility they can use. far as the global outreach is concerned, "the wall street journal" says -- guest: the u.n. has a lot of problems, including the world health organization. i don't know if there is as good a response. i would much rather the cdc. of how not use the who we respond to epidemics or emergencies. host: do we fund the organization? guest: i'm not sure even there are some issues with israel.

we have not been funding those agencies -- we do not agree with their politics. host: as far as? of the u.n. agencies have done some things with the palestinians that our country does not recognize. caller: good morning, can you hear me? thank you, congressman, for being here. two ideas. first, we need to have free urgent care for anyone right now. we have to modify this so people will come in. they cannot afford a doctor. it, they need to make perfectly clear and undocumented notle seeking health will be deported. otherwise, we will get a pool of people who will not come in until it is too late. thank you. have two, centers

level one in the houston area. it does not matter if you can show up there. if you go into any emergency room, they need to see your illness and they are required to do a few. -- to deal with you. you may be transported to a hospital. if you are in a number emergency room, you have to be treated. illness, youyour may stay there but also, you may be transferred. >> you know if there is a plan for ebola? life not that i know of. level one trauma centers just two days ago or yesterday, that would probably be the ideal place because they have a level one trauma center. a public hospital system, they are both in the medical center next is heather. that would probably be the place where their most prepared. sorry, let's go to matt,

summerfield, florida, independent line. caller: good morning. i want to know, when something happens, if the horse leaves the gate, you just close the door. muchn, there is so nepotism coming on. no one knows what anybody is talking about. you listen to a doctor and he will tell you one thing. you listen to a politician and he will tell you another. he will tell you anything that is likely correct. thank you. should bear as what done -- matt is gone. let's go to georgia, republican line. caller: good morning. the question i have is it was my understanding that both the governments of the u.k. and france have seen fit to not permit entry into their countries. i believe commercial flights from those previously most

affected countries in west africa. do you have any knowledge as to what their basis is and what the reasoning is and why we should not an sitter the same? >> we ought to, but i am not sure any nation has done that. the hearing today, that might be a good question to say, what are those other nations doing? to duncan actually went frankfurt and europe and came to d.c.. host: leonard, minnesota. caller: the news media is the biggest culprit in this whole thing. one person has died that i know of. he does had ebola in texas. that is not an epidemic. the doctors are doing their job.

i am sure they will do ok. giving american people in whole bunch of garbage. canada might have a vaccine. it has not been approved yet, but they might do it. is, let'si am making let the medical people do their job and let's quit hyping american people. you do not get ebola by touching somebody or walking across the street. it is not like it is floating around the air all over the place and it will get us. let get our facts straight and let the american doctors do their job. i appreciate your opinion. in a country with freedom of speech and a 24 hour news cycle, way it has to be dealt with. but you are correct, we just want to make sure it doesn't get

any worse. host: indepdent line. caller: i just wanted to mention, which is really important, the virus actually kills 250,000 people a year. ebola is really, although it is waking us up to the fact that we ournot part haired, hospitals are not prepared because of the type of infection it is, that we need to wake up to do fact that we need something about this. it was written in 1996 by a prizeo -- pulitzer winner, which he predicted in 1996 haired but i think we have options of what we can do. i do not think hospitals are prepared to handle a large pandemic. what we could do without taxing takereating more debt is some of the profits from hospitals and pharmaceutical companies and let's build the centers in the cities to deal

with some type of endemic, whether it is a mutation influencing the virus, which they're really concerned even more so than ebola. but there are definitely options we have without breaking the bank, where we can really get things done. where the cdc will not be so incompetent to deal with more pandemics decide ebola, which are more dangerous down the road to thank you for listening. guest: i appreciate it. congress has responded on one. we have a lot of illnesses where we really need to have the next generation of antibiotics. a bill that is very bipartisan. we probably will not pass it in this congress. we will introduce it again to encourage pharmaceuticals to go to these drugs, not the high-cost ones, but the ones we

need to deal with, some of these and germs.ruses but you are right that we need to see these facilities around the country. talk our guest is here to about the u.s. response to ebola not only from the federal level. it is the topic of a hearing that will take place today. that is at noon. you have heard representatives be the cdc director will there as well as the nih as well as others. you can watch that hearing live at noon today. c-span.org. it on anna, hello. go ahead. you for giving people the opportunity to call in and express opinions and concerns. for me, i think the ebola management issues have brought to light a long-standing problem with hospitals in the united

states. the containment of any type of infection. practices disease have been problematic to some degree. just look at hospital rates us -- of antibiotic resistant that have not become community acquired diseases, not just from the hospitals. practicesion control are often compromised by staff out of necessity because of decreased numbers of staff and increased demands on their time for tasks and electronic record electronic record means of administering medications that, though they provide important data, for our

people that reviewed data, it translates too much longer clinical the livery times for , and that is not reflected in the staffing numbers. bring up aink you good point. ebola is a threat and obviously, in africa and they heard world health care system, it is very tragic what is happening. we have a lot of other illnesses. congress and the federal government has tried to respond. the infection rate in hospitals, even some of our great facilities we have, are way higher than they should be. there have been efforts over the last few years to make sure you should not go to the hospital to get sick. houston, texas, is our next call. hello. good morning. i am glad we do not have to have a translator since you are from houston. caller: yes, how are you doing?

thank you. i believe the hospital that and patientsses died, maybe the hospitals need to be closed down and they need to decontaminate the hospitals. sick in dallas, i have family members in dallas, and i'm concerned about their protection and their health. i do not want to go to that hospital right now. should be more concerned about the patients in that hospital right now. the nurses are the ones, they the disease in the hospital. believe thate to the hospital needs to have that are protocol. i do believe this also, that it is going to be up to the

citizens. i recall john f. kennedy said, don't ask what your country can do for you. ask what you can do for your country. i can tell you the hospital in dallas will probably be scrutinized more than they'd ever want to be. can deal with we it, and hopefully, we will learn that at the hearing today. this is the volvo. we are seeing more action. i think what you said is true. if you do not -- you do not want to go to the hospital or get sick. host: a story taking a look at the president's strategy going to isis. what you think about airstrikes and the campaign so far? how would you rate its effectiveness? >> i had concerns in the last days. we have seen a lot more airstrikes. i watched in the 1990's, how we war andwe stopped the

we can still do it, but we cannot do it with seven or eight airstrikes today. it has to be pretty massive. we have got a good coalition of other countries and also have military assets there. without be going after them every day. not a dozen strikes, we have to go with them dozens if not hundreds. if you want to really disable them, you need to make sure they cannot move or do anything. , theost recent issue malaria there they were threatening to overrun. the latest information is we have done more airstrikes and that may be protected. if we are going to be in their, we ought to do it. but i do not want to see u.s. troops battling. we have an iraqi army that may not be doing their job, but we of our blood, lot sweat, and tears and debt and we need to help them do their own job, not with another u.s. soldier on the ground. host: how long until we train

enough troops to do that? be a: it will have to coalition doing it. should not be on our ticket to pay for all this trading. but we have out now, jordan, a number of countries, i wish turkey was more aggressive because they are a border country, to deal with this. isil is a threat. to the folks in that region, it is an immediate threat here they need to step up and deal with it. we want to help and train them. i have been to kurdistan and northern iraq. it really just need support and i think they can do it. they are a very motivated military unit. host: should the president come back and get a former -- formal authorization or is that by the wayside? congress, iember of want the president to come to us

and ask and answer questions. i think congress ought to make that decision. the president of the work hours at, the president of his authority to do with the president is doing even without congress. i think you will see an extension and there might be more guidance from congress on how to do that here we want to make sure it works. not forget we spend a lot of u.s. money training the iraqi army that literally disappeared when isis appeared in northwestern iraq veered we want to make sure we do not train false unit. again, we do not want to waste our u.s. tax dollars a second time on something that cannot work the first time. host: florida, here is greg. caller: i have a question and a comment. my daughter is a health care professional in omaha, nebraska. the four centers, emery

university, of the brassica, and the other ones, would be overwhelmed if each of them got 25 people in the isolation unit, number one. theuestion is, do you think $2 billion spent on the obamacare website would have been better served or an emergency like this? guest: i think we are more likely to be hurt by a lot of other illnesses. in fact, i have a district and 43% of my constituents worked and today, 19,000 of my constituents have insurance through that website. i would rather those folks get an insurance product than worrying about a containment facility. so far, we only have one death in our country. i am a supporter of the affordable care act. i was on a committee to help drafted. there are problems with it, but we have a health issue in our

country. people want a job that they want to know if their employer provides insurance and in our district, that is not always the case. call,one mole -- one more independent line. thank: i would like to senator green for being there. and havented to call on a state level what we're looking at as far as, right now, everything is only on the federal. on the state level, taxes right now have had this happen. shouldn't the states come in and designate the hospital and and set it up and tried to work with what we have, instead of costing more money with backgrounds of people that have traveled, to come in and be tested and screened and the

americans and stop worrying about blaming everybody and turning it this way and that way, and come together as americans to get in front of this. you are correct. it will be a conversation between the state government and federal government and local communities to stop the problem. the facilities i am familiar with are typically partnerships. we did not need them for all these years. most of them were built specifically with federal money because of the epidemic back nine years ago. but ineed more of them would rather solve some of our illnesses. doing a lot more americans than ebola will ever do. in the washington times this morning, about the houston mayor and calls for her to get

pastors to give over there sermons. i do not know if you -- if you have been following this. >> i have been following this, like the city of houston and a lot of communities. there is a lawsuit filed and a referendum on the ballot and in the process of that lawsuit, there is a group of pastors who .ave supported repeal you can subpoena a lot of different things, including pastors sermons. what do you think of that effort overall? it does not sound right, but that is also part of our judicial system. if you have two different groups youourt with each other, want both sides to have all the information they can to make the

best case they can. it is a speech issue, although to pastor should be able preach the word of god as they see it, no matter what the religion is. host: senator gene green is joining us. looks at ae hearing bowl and the federal response. thank you for your time. campaign 2014 specifically, issues you might vote on. this time, we will talk about education. see education on the high school level. here is your chance to participate. -- education is your thing and you will vote on it in november.

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. the response to the ebola virus, fonts and other news outlets are reporting that the centers for disease control and prevention are considering adding the names of health or workers a monitored. the move is being considered as a response to a dallas nurse being cleared to fly on a commercial airline earlier this week, despite having been exposed to ebola. you can hear it again -- here again later coverage of today's -- or listen to it live here on c-span radio. listen -- those are some of the headlines. >> follow us on twitter and like us on facebook to get debate schedules, video clips of key moments, debate reviews from our politics seem. c-span is bringing you over 100

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on education and if it is something you are passionate about and you have issues with it, give us a call and tell us. the democratic incumbent. here is the exchange. i have a problem solver. schoolsernor opposed on

that are performing different assessments. that they are satisfied with. they're doing a good job with education. i do not know why he would do that. he imposed evaluations on teachers statewide. these were mandated in school districts and schools, even where local control was working well. they have their own teacher evaluation methods. i think this governor made a tremendous mistake in both the way his education reform bill was conceived and that it was never really implemented properly. it was not funded and he did not fight for the funding in the legislature and most of the initiatives were never implemented here at i do not believe we should mandate common core across. i believe that was a mistake. i will not do that when i am governor. common core was instituted by a republican governor of connecticut. yes, we are in the process of implementing it. i am working with school

districts across the state to make that as easy as possible. that is why we have made millions of dollars in technology grants to school systems. that is why we are reaching out even as we speak to the federal government to make sure we can lessen the amount of test's 11th graders would take. mark the first call is from rockville, maryland, independent line. wanted to say, i am out of montgomery county, maryland, one of the richest counties in the country. i have got a 15-year-old who attendsng on 30 one of the top 50 public high schools in the country. they are very well-meaning and of putting on the children to the next level. but the amount of knowledge they amazing tois just

me. maybe it is a generational thing. i just do not see them being prepared to move into a college. this is an international school. host: is this something you vote on? caller: yes. host: south carolina, democrats line, high. callingi am mainly because i see misleading , showing that tv nikki is for education. attendance at some traditional colleges, is down by 30%. it is primarily because of the tea party agenda of the congress and how nikki haley is one of the tea party patriots and somehow, they have a formula oft does not allow 30-40%

those parents to send their kids to college. nobody is talking about it. like she is taking a lot of that same money and channeling it into private schools. they use a cold -- a code word. i cannot think of it right off hand. but they take vouchers and allow other students to go to private school with some of the same money they were using. these people were majoring in pharmaceutical studies, pre-medicine, mathematics, and things like that. loretta, mississippi, independent line. know if i heard on the local news about mississippi in the school. , that the principle of the own measures go was in nigeria at a brother's funeral.

to theents came elementary school and checked out their kids and found it he came back from nigeria. i do not know if that is one of the countries listed or not for sure, but they gave him a three weeks leave until they made sure he was clear of ebola to make the parents more comfortable. host: you heard a previous caller talking about education. we are talking about education issues. if they influence your vote and who you vote for, you can pick the line that best represents you. -- to the idea of ads out of michigan, the governor's there. two at that have been airing, taking a look at education issues in that race. rick snyder and his challenger. here they are. manner -- >> rick.or ridge -- governor

>> not mine. >> not mind. >> death we not mine. teachers -- definitely not mine. from a goodb comes education. >> he did cut a billion dollars from education. we know because we see it everyday. >> school funding is always tough, but at least we are not cutting education funding. governor snyder has increased state funding every year he spent in office, in spite of what you have heard. increased spending. he even shored up teachers pensions. i taught for 31 years. the direction governor snyder is taking in education.

host: education issues in november. eugene. caller: everyone should be able to get a free education. taxes went up. i am 63 years old so i am not going back to school right now, but i would not mind my taxes going up to provide free education. elementaryeve school, all of that, teachers should be paid what they're worth. our entire future is dependent on these children. if we do not invest in our children, and we do not invest in our students, we get lost. we cut our own throats. houston, texas, republican line. to make theuld like

comment that i recently saw a textbook of my granddaughters here in houston, texas. it was an english course. it was just nothing but political indoctrination into environmental issues. so i am totally against any more money going into public usedtion when it is being to indoctrinate our children. in thisngle article textbook, this english course textbook, was all about environmental issues. i was absolutely appalled at how blatant it was. so i'm just calling in to tell every person, every parent should look at your children's textbooks. you should read these textbooks and see if you agree with what your children are being taught. the money being spent on this. you, hasuestion for

this issue come up either in the governors race in texas or maybe locally where you are in houston? is education one of those issues that plays out overall this november? in the races you have been paying attention to? caller: you know, i do not hear it so very much. texas is a pretty conservative state. i just want to call in and make the comment that we as parents and taxpayers really ought to look at how the education system may be being used to indoctrinate our children.

western civilization, writers, it was nothing but environmental issues. surely is in iowa on the democratic line. it is time to educate everyone in the country about the attacks in europe that is paying for those children to asian. they leave their schools without any big nets, and they have a lot more chance of getting an education in europe and australia. they have got all kinds of help. tests whichn their you never hear of anna c-span program. it is how we get by in all of these other countries.

every bit of manufacturing. that is how they raise the money to pay their bills. we get snowballed by the republicans and instead, they say, we need to drop the taxes on this country on the corporations that three fourths of them do not pay any taxes and they do not say that. i think we need a lot more education on worldwide taxes. the iowa governors debate where the idea of funding dollars came up. here are the statements. >> i heard a lot more people talk about we need to throw money at the problem. that may be true, but one thing you need to look at before you start throwing more funding is how then education dollars are being spent right now.

when i talked to teachers around the state, the primary complaint to me, one, they do not have enough training on how to implement, tour and they believe it does not make sense, and they say not enough money makes it to the classroom. i priority as governor is not recommendations, but rather should take a hard look at the education budget and making sure the dollars get in as quickly as possible. >> i do not know any business that tried to hire the best employees by paying the least dollars. it will be very difficult to maintain good teachers if we pay lower than anyplace else. ,s i travel around the state they talk about how difficult it , from montana, to organ, to

washington, to utah, part of that funding is very important on how we spend the money. is a votingcation issue for you and you have concerns, here is your chance to weigh in on it. -- the washington post this morning takes a look at standardized tests when it comes to education. leaders are saying too many of them are taking place, say no child left behind using test ,cores to evaluate schools since 2011, the obama administration exempted most states from the most ciccone and aspects of the law, but in the monthly test scores to evaluate teachers and decide which ones to keep, reward, and fire.

average, students in large school districts takes 113 standardized test between pre-k and 12th grade, according to data being collected by the council of schools. students in the 11th grade are tested the most. an average of five days taking average exams required by federal law, as well as other state and local test. from atlanta, georgia, independent line. good morning. caller: good morning. it is interesting to me listening to the conversations you have on your program, how much education is really needed in this country. unfortunately, we have a money sequence value system and education, along with other aspects of our society are commodified. there should be no money involved in education whatsoever. there should be available to

everyone throughout the country, but unfortunately, with a capitalistic system and being a business. about profit, unfortunately, when we should truly be educating everyone in this country, it is always touted. you see politicians speak to it constantly, but politics will not solve the problem of traditional institutions that will not assist and educate. money should be removed. host: i do not know if you talk with legislators or people running for office on these issues, but what -- if you do, what is the response? pretty much the same as, some people look at it as being a radical view. i understand that because it is a condition thinking in this country that we do things by

lowering taxes and throwing money at it. it all goes to things being commodified and unrealized solutions are usually looked at and frowned upon. betty in pennsylvania, democrats line. caller: please do not cut me off. i have two points to make about education. neither party has a handle on this. put our kids in school like an assembly line. we use one criteria -- age. not all kids are the same. we should be putting them where they do the best. if that means mixing 10-year-olds with seven and eight-year-olds, then that is what it means. we also need to give our teachers more freedom to teach according to the child they are

teaching, stead of teaching to the test. it is pathetic. the second one is money. everybody complains about the money. the put a principal in school and they say, now, you are responsible for the test scores. but he has no month -- no idea how much money is being spent on that school. him,him the money and tell this is your budget and this is how much your school is ending, and let them decide where the money will be spent. host: it sounds like you think a lot about this stuff. how did you reach those conclusions? caller: i do a lot of reading on the such -- on the subject. i listened to a lot of specialists. and i have an eight-year-old granddaughter. unfortunately, she is an immature child at eight.

great at math, but she lacks in reading. but she is not getting what she needs. that is betty from has a in you. on twitter, people say, if are tooelieve schools top heavy, they should take it up with the board of education. education issues, your vote in november, you want to make those thoughts known, call the line that best represents you. -- bruce from florida. i have two ideas. my main thing is about rick scott. he promised the people of florida he would not cut education. after he was elected, he cut $1.3 billion from education. a bunch of teachers lost their

job. all of the republican campaign ads are talking about how he did not cut education. the other thing is i would like for c-span to do a show about the map. when the doctors over in africa that they brought back to mathca, they were given before they left africa, and they were almost killed by the time they got home, now you do not hear anything about the method where it is at, how much sittingted, is somebody on this medicine so the government can take it for themselves? thank you. in -- frommarist maryland. we should have a balanced view of education. education should not be measured

by the amount of money spending in education. i had a woman from texas talk to about schoolbooks i was giving to the kids. that is where you came to educate children on those values. when it comes to important education, let them do it. understand do not education in this country, because there is no access to it. the government had a role to play. host: a piece this morning takes a look at top charter schools. a little noted development, that the change of educational landscape. nearly a dozen have gone to

midsize school district. this is a clear departure point. clinical and tropic leaders who encouraged charters to take a fresh look at creations here it publicly funded, independent schools, are they what we had in mind? teacher union leaders had to ask if they should stop stonewalling and collaborate instead both answers. it was a topic that came up in the race for governor. this is the race featuring rick -- er and his talking about the curriculum the use and charter schools overall. here is the exchange. charter schools were allowed to expand with no oversight, it was a big mistake by this governor and it is hurting our kids.

the free press did an eight-day series on what is happened to our public schools. 80% of these charter schools are by for-profit companies. public education should not be a profit-making venture. dollars should get from the classroom to our kids. these are unregulated schools, lack of accountability. it is hurting our kids. so yes. expect my opponent, with his record, to sign into law overexcited charter schools. i will do it when i am governor. >> governor, are charter schools hurting education in michigan? questionnaire giving parents choice. we have a lot of failed schools in our state. give parents an opportunity to get education and create competition. that is important. they are not unregulated. there are authorizes behind them and the destiny department of

education helps provide oversight. one thing i can tell you is i think we need higher standards for all schools. host: let's hear from caroline in detroit, michigan. caller: i think it is really interesting you show that and i happened to call in. as far as charter schools go, i agree, i think they take out some of the tax base for a lot of school systems that need it. it is such a low tax base, a lot of these super disenfranchised aser-city neighborhoods, much as i want to say that i cannot stand them, they have taken amazing strides with a lot of really disenfranchised children in the city that would not have had a good opportunity otherwise. i've seen beautiful videos and read articles in local news

about some artistic programs and stuff, things that have been taken away, that these children have access to. need more oversight, yes. i am a university student in detroit. i had to take some time off. i had a really bad car accident. on the flipside of that, just like charter schools are for-profit, i think most universities are as well. i have higher rates on my student loans than i do my credit card. accident, i had credit card companies stop charging interest but my student loans would not. i believe nelson mandela said education is the most important webby -- weapon we can use to change the world and we are really holding children back. the woman that called in from texas who was worried about the curriculum. the point about education is not to make carbon copies out if exposeildren, but to

them to a vast array of new ideas. they come up with new ideas we need in our future. the creativity is what compels move forward with technology and science and mathematics. i think we need that in this country. this the first time you're watching us? caller: yes. host: i hope you continue to .atch us a story in usa today takes a look at iowa and the senate race there. it says in this story that amongsteats braley 43% likely iowa voters, taking a narrow lead in the race. undecided.rs remain both of those candidates debate tonight and you can see that

live on c-span at 8:00. , 8:00 tonight. go to our website for more information on that. also, take a look out of wisconsin, one of the governors races being washed. released wednesday showed governor scott walker in a dead heat. his challenge remains to convince enough voters that his push to the right is working. if he succeeds, the results will affect not just the governors looks att how the gop 2000 16 peers wisconsin is a deeply polarized state and the governors race has become a battleground, a victory which would provide proof to both parties that a conservative could win in a swing state without having to governor -- to govern from the center. both will debate is coming friday.

you can watch the 8:00 on c-span. issues in education 2014 from connecticut. hello. -- c-span.org caller: caller: hello. a lot of things need to be addressed. of course, further and further, the foundation of what the 13 colonies wanted for the country. if you go into the bill of rights, you understand there is freedom of religion and freedom of the press. those things are being abused by people who are terrorizing the world. i will not get into religiosity. a lot of people will not understand this. but i've been in the prosper many years. i went to many games at yankee stadium. i know the thing about ebola has

been around for years. thatd somewhere in a book 20 years ago, before he died, that the next fire us that will contaminate our country will make hiv look like -- you can with hiv, butars this ebola, it will kill people in less than two leaks. we are talking about education issues in the final minutes of the program. illinois, republican line. caller: thank you for taking my call. i wanted to point out several things about education. i worked in the public schools for 15, 16 years. i have watched how things have been handled. basically, there are two things never addressed about education.

i have many teachers in my neighborhood, i play in a group with them and talk to children. one of the issues is that it is very hard to and shall the children. they do not behave. they will not stay in their seats. the children pretty much run wild. theve a teacher in neighborhood who told me, she went back to southern she and thelast year, kindergarten and first in -- first grade classes are so awful, she will not do it again. the children are out of control in the public school and they have a hard time managing them. the schools are overcrowded. until we address the way we culture is our children, and until we address their behavior, they will not learn when they cannot be quiet. they will not learn when they cannot pay attention. the schools have

turned into a reward party thing. it is more of a relaxed atmosphere. the second thing i want to say is, in these schools where i they threwerience, money constantly every which direction. i am not in favor of increasing funding. i do not need it will be money that helps things. comes down to voting for people, you examine education policies for those you consider voting for? caller: i actually do. i think the time has come, we already pay an 8% value added tax through obamacare. most people do not think of it that way, but that is how obamacare is. it is an 8% value added tax. speaking of illinois come the debate over the 17th district, and that is from the former republican, and the current democratic. education was the topic, but

this was college debt. here's what they had to say. >> what we have to do is we have really got to work hard in focusing on creating more competition. we're seeing in illinois millions and millions of dollars being completely wasted that should have been spent a little more appropriately. what i believe we have to do is focus a little bit more early on with kids in high school where they can actually look and try to find a field they want to go into. not all children will want to go to college. it is ok to have people who might be plumbers and things like that. when you have got kids who are going to college headed it is $60,000 per year, that is ridiculous. think the competition, whether it is online or through the states or the country, i think we'll definitely help to draw down those prices. >> a graduate of a four-year public university. a middle son went to a four-year labor are -- liberal arts school

to his son, i am proud to say, is gainfully employed as a welder. my middle son is getting his mba. he does not want me to mention the amount of his death, -- his -- his debt. i have supported legislation that allows students to refinance student loans, i have been a lead sponsor of legislation that expands pell grants. cannot go tos who school because they cannot afford it, give them an opportunity to do that. theseif you want to see debates for the advertisements, all of that is being collected on our campaign 2014 website at c-span.org. eaton, ohio, democrat line, gary, hello. caller: yes. is each stateere

and each school district in each a report,y, they file like an income tax return. this money is like dealing with two sets of books. the schools system is worth so much money. all we ever deal with is the budget. it has nothing to do with how much money the school system has. that is the reason the hierarchy of the school system, they make it money, big plans, and it is all because there are two sets of books. host: from ohio honor independent line, good morning. caller: good morning.

i love your show and thank you for accepting this call. i think a lot of the problems in this country is education. the skids are smoking these cigarettes, marijuana. they are not actually getting anything out of school because they are burning their brains out as fast as they are trying to learn. i do not know exactly what the oughttics are, but they to take a survey and find out how many children in early grades all the way up to are smoking marijuana. they want to legalize it and they are just destroying the system. to not care how much money you pump into the schools. the test result will not be good. you might have a few students doing things right that are not smoking these drugs in destroying their brains. fighting an uphill battle as far as these drugs if they do not control the drugs.

a story in the new york times, looking at a digital presence when it comes to setting things. web videos andes promotional posts on social media. a super pac mainly funded by tom stier has spent more than 306 million to help democrats while in nonprofit backing republicans has spent more than 660,000. a partner has spent an additional 141 -- $141,000. -- $541,000. represented 82% of independent expenditures in a general election has reported to the sec, up from 75% in 2010. kevin, you are next. hello. when i was growing up,

we got substandard books. it has a lot to do with education. old books while other kids got new books. our education was stunning. as time and on and the policy education, we have got to upgrade this. from one morear call, maryland, democrat line. caller: good morning. i am curious because i came from the islands where our education system is its own colonial type education. i was 10 when i was getting ready to go to high school and had to be put back into a middle will, which is disheartening. i doing so, i find there is a

lot of racism in the school system in the united states. not only that, the so-called counselor they assigned to you basically never anywhere to be found. not only that, i find there was competition. education was not an epidemic have aou can basically platform in which to reach a higher level. not only that, the states seem to, they seem to have different platforms. we will have to leave it there. don't forget the hearing at noon. the house hearing on ebola. that is it for this program. her addition comes your way at seven tomorrow morning. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 20]