the local level. and then we moved to florida standards, and this next year, what i'm going to do, is look at all the standards we have. some are at the state, and district. mature everybody knows what the standards are. there's way too much testing in our schools today. and, the reason that is, is that rick scott signed a bill, i vetoed that bill, because it put too much about teaching to the test. that's not right and it's to the fair to our children. we need to have somebody like me, as governor, who served as education commissioner. we have had 4 educational commissioners, in four years. we have to get it back on track.

and we need somebody who went to our public schools. i'll do that, and we got to get it right. fourth graders are number two, and they have the highest gains in the last 3 years. spanish students, have some of the highest graduation, and 4, 5%. the national council for teach you are equality it, has the highest, in the country. and, when charlie was governor, 3,000 teachers got laid off. because of his cuts in education and, she called his office and, he would not return her call.

governor, under your administration, and ungovernor scott, scores of children have died under the supervision of the department of children and family. why are we unable to keep kids safe? it's tragic. challenges, and the difficulties, and even if one child do is, it's a tragedy. but this is an area where i decided to reach across the aisle, when i got elected, i reached on out, and one of the smartest thing is to surround yourself with the best and brightest. and george did a tremendous job. what's important is to be transparent. there's a story about a lack of transparency on this issue, from rick scott's administration and, i can't understand that. but what is important, you have to be clear and, open or

you can fix the problems to begin with. and one of the first questions i got, when he was secretary, when we add challenge, with a child, he said, what do you want me do? call a press conference,. thank you. i mean it's -- it's tragic, right after the bell shootings, i went and met with the survivors and, my heart goes out to them. we have grnd kids and here's what we did, we increased the pay for our child protection investigators, and charlie had cut that. and then we also brought in the casey foundation to review, and they made some recommendations, and i askedded for more and, now 270 more, and they're going to

spend, more time per family. number of child deaths has come down, and it's not zero. and every child death is a tragedy. thank you

>> on that note, the lightning round is over. we started late. that concludes question and answers. the candidates have 20 seconds for -- i am sorry -- one minute for closing arguments. governor crist will go first. that was determined by a coin toss. >> i want to thank people watching at home. you have seen the differences between rick scott and myself. i want to do everything i can to make sure the middle class has the opportunity to do better. i want to make sure that we invest in florida businesses. not bringing in big corporations.

i want to protect the environment. i love water. i love being out on water. i want to make sure that, for future generations, they have the opportunity to enjoy the beauty of this great state. i'm asking you your vote. i would appreciate it. god bless you and god bless florida. [applause] >> governor scott. >> i thank my wife for standing by me. i want to thank my mom for divorcing an abusive husband. i thank my daughters for being a great members of the family. my mom called me a good boy. i ran a campaign of getting the state back to work. it is a great honor.

i would love to get your vote. i will do everything i can to make sure that this is the state where you can live your version of the american dream. [indiscernible] great to be here. >> governor scott. thank you very much. governor crist. thank you very much. that concludes our debate. governor scott, thank you. thank you. thank you. ♪ c-span's campaign

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this evening's debate will engage the two leading candidates for wisconsin governor, republican candidate governor scott walker and democratic candidate mary burke. the debate is made possible in part by generous grant from the wisconsin association of independent colleges and universities and the aarp of wisconsin. i would like to introduce the moderator for the night, a veteran reporter from the milwaukee public radio, aaron --erin. >> here is tonight's format. have twoidate will minutes for an opening statement, determined by a coin flip. the format requires each

question be directed at both candidates and not one or the other. each candidate will have one minute, 30 seconds to respond, followed by rebuttals. we will alternate the order. candidate ms. burke and candidate walker, preach -- these provide answers to panelists' questions and stay on topic. if you give us the specific answers, i may call on the panelists to restate the question and give each of you 30 seconds for a focused reply. please adhere to the time limits you have agreed to. if you exceed your limit, i will remind you that your time is up. should you persist, your microphone will be silenced. we will conclude the debate with three-minute closing statements. finally, we will be addressing the candidates as governor walker and ms. burke. let's begin with two-minute

opening statements. ms. burke, your first. >> thank you to the broadcasters association, governor walker, all of you at home watching tonight, and my family, my mother and relatives who are here with me tonight. the election is about wisconsin's future. not only can we do better, but we must do better, so that everybody has a fair shot to get ahead if they do the hard work. governor walker sees it a little differently. he says, and i quote, "we do not have a jobs problem." the average family who are seen income drop $3000 over the last four years, that is a jobs problem. it is not fair and that is not good for the economy. instead of building up the middle class, governor walker has aimed to tax breaks to those at the top. it is not working. wisconsin is dead last in the midwest in terms of job growth under his watch.

that is the jobs problem. i want to make sure that every wisconsin family has a fair shot to get ahead if they are prepared to do the hard work. a fair shot means first and foremost great, affordable, public education, starting in kindergarten all the way through college. i will invest in schools and make college more affordable. a fair shot also means a growing economy with growing small businesses, raising the minimum wage, increasing good paying jobs. a fair shot means reducing the tax burden to those who are being squeezed. and a fair shot means a government that is accountable, responsible, and working for the people of wisconsin, not special interests. and finally, it means an end to divisiveness. we are all on the same team and we are proud wisconsinites first and foremost, not republicans or democrats. i look forward to sharing my plan with you that gives every wisconsinites a bright future.

>> good evening. thank you to the wba for sponsoring the event and particular thanks to my wife and two sons, matt and alex. thank you at home for tuning in to what i hope will be an honest and open debate. i have great news. more than 8400 new jobs were created last month. that is the best september with had for private sector job creation in more than a decade. on top of that, unemployment is down to 5%, the lowest since october of 2008. wisconsin ranks fifth in the nation for new manufacturing jobs. that is why we have invested $100 million to worker training to help people get the skills that they needed for the good paying jobs available right now. the most recent fiscal year ended with a cash balance of

$517 million. the next budget will begin with a surplus. that means that we can invest in priorities. economic development, quality schools, technical colleges. helping needy families. helping people who are victims of domestic violence, like my friend who is here today and has been such an inspirational advocate. overall, wisconsin is better off than it was four years ago, and we have a plan to make it better. i invite people to go to scott walker.com to look at my plan. i will share details tonight. working together, we can continue to move wisconsin forward, and that is why i ask for your vote. >> thank you, governor walker. the first question tonight is from charles benson, a political reporter.

>> let's talk about budget numbers. this week, the nonpartisan number crunchers told us that wisconsin has a $517 million surplus. at the same time, we are hearing that the state faces a $1.8 billion projected shortfall in the next budget. voters are asking how can both be true? my first question, you agree that there is a surplus, and what is the priority for that money? secondly, do you agree that there is a projected deficit for the next budget, and what we do specifically about it? -- would you do specifically about it? >> it is important that the people of wisconsin understand the financial position of our state. i have been a business person my entire career, balanced a bunch of budgets, and the numbers can be confusing.

the fact is that the $517 million refers to a cash balance. if you have a bunch of bills that have not come do yet, it may look like you have a lot of money, but you have to pay them. we have a lot of deferred bills. there are uw colleges and universities that are putting building projects on hold in order to inflate this number to make it look better then it is. governor walker has spent money that we do not have. this year, we are projected to spend a $400 million more than we take in. where way that i would approach this, and the projected deficit, is that we have to make tough decisions. we have to get the economy going so we have revenues coming in. we have to make sure that we prioritize our spending based on economic development and getting the economy going.

because that is what is going to make sure that wisconsin is in the strongest position financially, when we get the economy up and running. >> there is no disputing the fact, the facts are clear. wisconsin just finished its last fiscal year, june 30 of 2014, with a $570 million surplus. the next -- 517 million dollars surplus. the 120 billion figure comes from an assumption of zero growth. that just does not happen. -- $1.8 billion figure. if you combine that with the fact, just making some reasonable adjustments to be budget, as we have over the past year, i will put us in a place where we have a surplus. the priorities will be the ones we just talked about.

i will ask my moderator for a second, that clock just changed twice. is that the way it is supposed to be going? i thought we had a minute and 30 seconds, but it switched. >> you do have a minute and 30 seconds, so we will check the situation. >> i apologize to be viewers, but it was a little odd for both of us. >> we are going to check it. and now, your 32nd rebuttal? -- 30 second rebuttal? let's make sure we have 30 seconds on the clock. go ahead. >> the fact remains that we have a $1.8 billion projected deficit. this is a difference of $2 billion from the last budget, because of the fiscally irresponsible decisions that governor walker made, and

because the revenues are lagging because the economy is lagging. this is going to be a tough budget. as governor, i am prepared to take on the tough decisions for the next. -- next budget. >> we inherited a deficit and we turned it into a surplus. we did it the old-fashioned way, paying off the money that we owed. the paid back the money taken from the patient compensation fund. we even paid money back to minnesota. the rainy day fund is bigger than when we took office. our pension is one of the only fully funded ones in the country. we are putting a focus on fiscal responsibility, and we will have a surplus in the next day budget. -- state budget, based upon the

reasonable projections that were laid out. >> next question is from kent. >> the debate is taking place in downtown milwaukee. you have both talking about the importance to all of wisconsin of having a thriving economy in the city. but unemployment in inner-city milwaukee, particularly among african-american men, remains exceptionally high. some put that number at 50% or higher. voters tell us that if there are jobs, they are not here, and they are desperate for change sooner. can you give us some specific examples of what you can and will do to tackle the and -- unemployment problem in the short term in the heart of the state's largest city. >> this is a real problem. i noticed that when i was the milwaukee county executive, and tried to act on it as governor. in april of 2012, we announced a program. we projected $200 million from the state to try and invest in

new developments, new projects, things that would put people to work. not just with jobs, but with family supporting jobs. we have added to that. the transform milwaukee program for jobs, it is part of the transitional program elsewhere in the state, and we will build on that. i have asked people to head up a task force on minority unemployment to tackle that very issue. they have made a series of recommendations. that is why we have made academic plans. in the short term, we need capital investment in milwaukee. we did that by putting it, and the heart of the city, our new children and family headquarters. we are going to continue to build off of that and not just talk about it.

put our money where our mouth is. >> this is a real issue, because wisconsin cannot have a thriving economy without a milwaukee economy that is thriving as well. the milwaukee economy has not come back as well. that has not happened. under walker, it would be six more years before milwaukee county would get to prerecession unemployment levels. -- employment levels. that is not good enough, and governor walker has had four years, and forming a task force now is not good enough. what i would do, with my experience as an entrepreneur, is a new concept used in cleveland called anchor institutions.

use anchor institutions like hospitals, health care, educational institutions to start new businesses, help them to grow the businesses, and give contracts. we also need to invest in the local communities, in neighborhoods where we have boarded up store fronts. give the people the business skills that they need to start their own businesses there. >> that $100 million i talked about is more than just talk, we invested it. we invested another $100 million on top of that on top of that, we put money into the african-american chamber of commerce. we did the same thing with the hispanic chamber of commerce. but let's be clear. my opponent referenced governor doyle, and that led to the losing of jobs.

we have had to clean up that mess and will continue to do so going forward. >> getting back to the central city, in milwaukee, the most important thing that we have to do is focus on not only the jobs themselves, but our job skills and education. i look forward to taking on the tough issues on education in milwaukee, because that is what is going to drive economic development and jobs in the long-term. we have to make sure that people have the skills and the training and a career plan when they leave high school as to how they are going to make sure they get that, along with affordable access to higher education. >> the next question is from cbs 58 reporter mike. >> both of you have said that you need more information from an economic impact study before taking a position on a high-stakes casino proposal.

what are you going to need to see in the study that would convince you to say yes or no? and furthermore, what does your gut say? what does your moral or philosophical core say about expanded gaming? >> i look forward to taking on this issue because it is very important to the people of kenosha and also in milwaukee. governor walker has had 14 months to do this, and before this was ever even approved by the federal government, he laid out three criteria that he said he would use to make a decision. he has now flip-flopped, and he is not even using those criteria. in addition, not one of those criteria had to do with job creation and economic development, which is the most important issue we face here. i would make sure that we have an impartial study that looks at the impact of the casino both on milwaukee and kenosha.

we are in competition with other states like iowa and illinois, not only for gaming, before entertainment. -- but for entertainment. if it creates a significant number of new jobs and adds to the employment and tax base, i would approve the casino. but we do need to have the impartial study done, and as soon as that is done, i will make the decision. i would not kick the can down the road. >> i love kenosha. i go there often. as the mayor knows, i spend a lot of time down there, and i am pleased to see how many jobs we have helped to create, many have come from northern illinois, across the border. whether it is manufacturing or amazon in the town of summer. the "milwaukee business journal" put out a story talking about 4000 new jobs in the kenosha area.

but the biggest thing holding us up right now is really two words, jim doyle. jim doyle put in compacts a decade ago that specific we said that if a casino is put up and kenosha, -- in kenosha, they could hold out on $100 million or more. they have talked about withholding part of those payments to date. to me, a $100 million hole in the budget is significant. if we did not have that factor out there, it would be a different discussion. we will take the full amount of time that we need to to make sure we can get to a point where we can create those jobs. create the jobs there and create jobs in other parts of the state without creating a $100 million hole in the state budget. >> there is no doubt that it is not an easy situation, but that is where you have to be a tough negotiator. make sure that you have the best interest of the state as a whole in mind.

understand how you can bring together the parties to do something good for the state. i think we have that opportunity here. but we have to make sure we get people to the table. that is what i have done through my entire career, is billed -- built those kinds of public/private partnerships to make sure that we end up on the right side of this. >> this is one of those were my opponent, and supporters of her, criticize us when they ignore the fact of the federal government took nine years. both the obama and bush administrations dragged this out because they needed the time to make a decision. we're going to take the time to make sure that we do not put a hole in the state budget. we started negotiating, and are going to continue that, but we are going to put the stewardship of taxpayer money first. >> i see that you would like to press for specifics. would you reset your question? -- restate your question?

>> you said a significant number of jobs. is there a set number -- 1000, 2000, or a revenue number -- that you would need to see in the report? >> it would need to be in excess of 500 jobs, but in we need to look at not only the direct jobs, but also the multiplier effect from additional people spending that money in the community. i would look at both the direct and indirect jobs. >> for me, a win-win is we make sure that we add jobs and -- in kenosha and do not subtract from other parts of the state. >> our next question from a fox news anchor. >> sadly, it is not being used in the fall due to a collapse by the brewers, but miller park is here. it would not be here without the

public support and persistence of then governor tommy. it is likely that whoever wins will have to deal with an issue with the bucs, who could be seattle bound. would you allocate public funding to create a new arena, or would you pledge to block the use of any state tax dollars needed to build the project? governor, i believe it is your turn to inbound the ball. >> good metaphor. i have two sons who love to go and see bucs games. i have said in the past, and i will repeat tonight, i do not support the sales tax for this project.

what i do think we should look at is what is the actual value -- not the theoretical value, but what the milwaukee bucks as a team bringing into the state of wisconsin in terms of revenue to the state that we would otherwise lose. i think you are right, the mba has said that if by 2017 they are not up and going here, they are going somewhere else. we do not want that. part of our goal is to assess -- we have been working on that over the past few months -- assess the actual amount that the milwaukee bucs and their players -- because the players and the visiting players are taxed on a prorated basis when they play a game -- what is the actual dollar amount, and what would we lose. that is a legitimate basis on which to begin a discussion. >> your response? >> i grew up in heartland, not too far away, and i certainly remember watching the bucs when they won the championship in 1971. i know the glory that we can see in a community from having a

thriving nba franchise. as i mentioned previously, what we have seen right now is that milwaukee county has not come back from the recession. six more years before we get to prerecession employment. we have to look at what investments are needed to have a thriving milwaukee economy. that represents a lot, not only directly to milwaukee but to other communities around it and certainly to the state. i know from my experience that sometimes you need to make investments in order to grow. the public option should be on the table but it should be the last one, and we have to protect the taxpayers here. but we have to understand the impact it has on the community, not only the direct impact but the indirect impact on milwaukee. we have to make sure that we are thriving and keeping young people in the community, and things like sports teams play a role in that.

i want to look at that from a business perspective. what is the impact overall of that team on the community, how can we bring people together in public/private partnership to make that happen while protecting the taxpayer. >> i love milwaukee. my sons were born at st. joseph here. i love this community and i love the state. i want to make sure that my sons and others like them want to stay here. part of that is quality of life, which is not just the bucks, but all the great assets we have across the state. i want to make sure that we do that responsibly and the tax-and-spend policies in place before i came into office are largely responsible for jobs we lost in the past. i do not want to repeat those. >> this is an important decision for milwaukee. i applaud the owners and community leaders that are

putting resources into this. as governor, i want to look at how we make this happen. again, we need to protect the taxpayers, but a lot is on the line here, and i am going to take a position to make this happen. >> back to charles benson. >> we have seen a huge tv battle over these ads saying who would do a better job creating jobs, throwing numbers out. "the milwaukee journal sentinel" analyzed the numbers and found that wisconsin lagged the nation for growth for the past 10 years, including governor walker's years and ms. burke's years in commerce. why shouldn't taxpayers expect better results? give me some plays that will allow the state to outperform the country. >> that is why i'm running for

governor. we are not taking the steps to make sure that wisconsin has a thriving and growing economy. that is why i laid out in my plan five core strategies to make this work. these are five strategies that are unique to wisconsin, ones that i think will work here, that are the best ideas i gathered from across the country. two of them -- i could go on for a lot more than a minute 30 on this. it is on workforce training, college affordability. small businesses being able to grow. right now, we are 46th in the country in terms of new businesses started, and it is new business growth that actually creates 70% of jobs that are created. when we are in the bottom five of the country, it is not good enough. we have to make sure that we keep good people and the

workforce and they stay in our communities. that we have a strong public education system, kindergarten all the way through university. we have to bring down the cost of college, because 70% of the jobs created in the future require education and training past high school. it will take a lot more, and right now, we do not have a plan or vision of how we can make sure that wisconsin is actually leading the midwest instead of lagging. >> we have an exciting plan and we are building it. part of my opponent's plan is based on some of the things we are doing. the investment we made in the clean water center. i was just an chippewa valley for the new energy center they have there at the technical college. we have invested in those. what we need to build on

bread-and-butter, manufacturing and agriculture. we will accelerate the amount of growth in those key industries in the coming years. but it is not your grandma and grandpa's markets. we have seen an increase in imports and exports. this reckoning those areas and going into new areas, beverages, clean energy, biotech. the things that we have invested in are evolving. our plan will continue to come back. in this area, i think we agree, it is about investing in education, but we target investments. we just put 28 million dollars more this summer in buying down the wait list into technical colleges. we want to grow off of that. >> the "journal sentinel" review

governor walker's jobs plan and say that it is more of the same. that will not get the job done. it will not move the needle. we have to be more aggressive about the investment that we have. what i have seen for governor walker is that he believes that if you give tax breaks to those at the top it creates jobs. i am a business person, i know how jobs get created. you need to have small business growth, workforce training. you have to have a real plan, and it has to be aggressive. >> 8400 new jobs were created last month. that is the best september for more than a decade. unemployment is down to 5.5%. the lowest since october 2008. compare apples to apples. the last time the unemployment rate has been worse were during the three years that my opponent was in commerce.

>> the next question is from kent. >> i would like to ask each of about your reaction to a jobs related issue. there is a saying in politics, the buck stops here. when asked about your failure to reach your stated goal on jobs, you blame that on uncertainty due to capital protest and recalls. ms. burke, you blame the controversy over the multiple copied passages on your jobs plan on a consultant, saying he should not have used the same words. how much responsibility or blame do you accept for those situations having occurred, and should voters hold you accountable?

>> wisconsin lost over 133,000 jobs due to the policies of my predecessor. i met people who took a cuts and lost her jobs, like michael from heartland, who had been a press operator for 20 years, only to see his job eliminated during the downsizing. those are real people. so i set a big goal, 250,000 jobs. because i believe in wisconsin. we are not done yet, but we have come a long way. over 100,000 new jobs in the three and a half years since we have been in office. there is plenty more work to be done. as voters look at the contrast, i do not think they will blame us or criticize us for aiming at big. look at the contrast between us. in the last three years, we have created twice as many jobs as were created during the three years that my opponent was in charge of the department of commerce under governor doyle. at that time, we were 42nd in

the country for job creation. we have just come off a september with the best september for private job creation in more than a decade. i think that is a good sign for the future. >> with the number of times that governor walker has mentioned jim doyle, it is clear that he would rather be running against him than me. we are different people. i am a business executive, and that is the experience i bring to this. as for being the secretary, i would like to clarify, the and -- unemployment was 4.8 percent, and we had more jobs than we have currently. governor walker is cherry picking numbers. the fact is, we are not keeping up in terms of job creation. 10 midwestern states, and we are 10th if you take the entirety of the term that he has been in office. we do need leadership and we need a real plan, a solid plan. that is my jobs plan. i have been straight from the

start in saying that these are the best ideas that we need to make sure that wisconsin is a thriving and growing economy. i sat down with the number people, from michael porter, the global guerrilla on clusters, and other folks were experts in those fields. the consultant that i cut ties with use ideas in similar plans to great plans are about great -- plans. great plans are about great ideas, and the more that they are used elsewhere and proven successful, that is what is going to make sure we are able to move wisconsin's economy forward. in my plan, i lay out my metrics and how people can judge me on the job. >> this is one of the things that people hate about politics, when someone says one thing and do something different. my opponent worked for jim

doyle, she said, quote, "i support his policies entirely." now she says something different. my opponent's campaign is saying the body of work is based on her time at harvard and her personal experience, and then we found someone else had written the plan. i just credit them for it. >> governor walker is just trying to distract from his own jobs failure, and failure of achieving the promise that he created. my jobs plan is based on my experience, but to run hundreds of attack ads against me, to try and question my integrity is just trying to distract from that failure on jobs. that is something that is not accurate and also something that does not reflect wisconsin's future and the plan for moving forward.

>> the next question is from mike. >> this dmv report shows that 185 people died in drunk driving related crashes last year alone. wisconsin is the only state in the nation where a first drunk driving offense is a ticket and not a crime. the attorney general's do not support criminalizing. do you support criminalizing, and what are your ideas to deal with the problem? >> i am on record as saying that it should be a misdemeanor. right now, there are not enough consequences for the first offense, and we have to make sure that there are consequences. not only is it 185 deaths, 5000 crashes that are alcohol-related. this is costing us, costing our society a lot of money along with the personal injury that causes. we have to take a tougher stance on this. i have been endorsed by the wisconsin professional police association, and i will work

with law enforcement to make sure that we have in place what we need to cut down on the number of fatalities, cut down on the number of crashes. and also work to make sure that this is not overburden our justice system by having alternative methods to address this. we also have to make sure the people who love addiction problems are able to get treatments. right now, we do not have tough enough consequences that are going to make a difference in really addressing this. we have not moved the needle enough. it is time for wisconsin to join the rest of the country and realize that this is something that is important. >> this is one of those tragic issues. i remember, years ago, when i was first elected, one of the most heart-wrenching cases we had to talk about was a family from our area that had lost a

son because of a multiple, repeat offender. the problems are not just the numbers, it is the number of people who have been out multiple times committing drunk driving. i agree with the attorney general candidates that the first time offenders, criminalizing that is not the answer. it is going after repeat offenders, toughening up the penalties. i think this is an issue that republicans and democrats can come together and work on. for me, it is one of those where i will work with law enforcement and the police. i have endorsement of the men and women in the milwaukee police association, and the troopers association. they are the people on the road to understand that you have to crack down on the people who are repeating the activity over and over again. >> governor walker has had a four years to address this. you would avoid repeat offenders if there were tougher penalties

with the first offense. people need to know, right off the start, before they get into habits that there are real consequences. >> again, it is one of those where i was just at the annual governor's conference on traffic safety. we have actually seen traffic accidents go down. we're going to continue to build off of that. the way to do that is to crack down on repeat offenders, show the consequences are serious, particularly for those of you back on the road -- the way and that is who on repeat offenders.

>> let me tell you a story about a family. they own a small business, raised four great kids, and, own a home. the home that they own happens to be one of milwaukee's most dangerous neighborhood. they cannot sit on their front porch because of gunfire. they are prisoners in their own home. specifically -- and give me specifics, please -- two or three reasons why that the family will be safer and central city violence will be addressed if you are elected governor. >> first off, living just a few blocks away from milwaukee, being here often, and having my kids be raised nearby here, that is an issue that i have seen all too often on each of your programs in the past.

it is a challenge, not just now, but in the past. one of the most important things in the past year was working with the city of milwaukee, coming together, republicans and democrats, to support funding for the shot spotter program. we would like to expand that in the future. it is a good pilot to begin with. we can find out, with remarkable accuracy, not only were the -- where the shots were fired, but pool police resources. when they go on look at this to begin with, many of the individual instances in which a shot was fired, very few times do people call it in. we have to provide security and safety that a family like that needs here and across the state

of wisconsin, particularly in milwaukee. >> it is a very serious issue, and you think that even in one of our own cities, families cannot be outside and feel safe, means we need to make changes. the things that governor walker has done has made it more difficult. he cut money to municipalities, which strains budgets in terms of providing police and fire and local services. according to the latest fbi reports, we have seen an increase in violent crimes, second in the midwest. out of 10 states, the second largest increase in violent crime. we are not doing enough. we have to provide adequate funding to communities to fight this. when governor walker mentions shot spotter, this was something that he would not include in his budget. he turned down the request by milwaukee to do that. it was only after pressure was put on that they resorted to partial funding.

-- restored it to partial funding. enough is not being done. we have to work with community groups and encourage the police to work with community groups, so that it has a grassroots effort. and we have to improve the job situation in the central city. we know that, when we increase employment, crime goes down. it cannot be about just law enforcement, it has to be economic development. >> again, here are the facts. the fact are that because of our reforms, in the first year alone, saved roughly $25 million. they have money to add to the police department, and raises to public employees in the city of milwaukee. >> we have a lot of work to do.

they have to realize that this takes a concerted effort. it is not easy work. it will be difficult work. but it means bringing people together and it is the type of public/private partnership that i created around education and closing the achievement gap in madison. we have 1000 teens in this program, mostly first in their family to do so. it was the schools, the boys and girls club, our universities. that is how you address those issues, bring people together. >> we have three minutes left to go before we transition to closing statements, so we will have one more final question. we have to shorten responses to one minute with no rebuttal time. we go to charles benson for the final question. >> i call to ted.

>> i think we have time for a short, fun question. a personality question. you are forbidden from campaigning for one day, doctors orders. you are told to get out on two wheels. where in wisconsin are you going? who are you bringing? and why are you going there? >> one of my favorite routes is from 108 up to the falls. i would go over to scenic highway 35 -- and then i would pan over to scenic highway 35. and i would take my buddies and i like to go riding harleys with. >> i would head towards heartland, where i grew up. where my mom, my sisters, two of my sisters and their families live. that is a great area, and the heartland/holy hill area, one of

the most beautiful areas of the state, and just spending time with family. from my nephew all the way up, that is what i would do. >> thank you, panelists, for the questions. it is time for three-minute closing statements. governor walker, you are first. >> my first job as a kid was working at a dishwasher. it is amazing to me to think about the son of a small-town minister and a part-time secretary growing up to be the leader of this great state. for that honor, i want to thank you, the voters. i ask for the opportunity to do it again for the next four years. i want to thank the moderator and the panel and my opponent for joining us tonight, and all of you for tuning in.

before i took office, wisconsin had lost 133,000 jobs. taxes were up, tuition was up. we had a $3.6 billion budget deficit. as i mentioned at the beginning and repeated throughout the activities, we have a september where we saw the creation of 8400 new jobs in the state. unemployment is at a low. we ranked fifth in the nation for manufacturing jobs. we were able to invest more than $100 million to worker training to help people get the skills that they need. we took a $3.6 billion deficit and turned it into a surplus, the old-fashioned way, by paying our bills off. the rainy day fund is 165 times bigger than when we took office.

we took the surplus and invested it into tax cuts that are so effective that a typical family will see an extra $322. we froze tuition for the first time at all of our uw campuses for two years in a row. we want to put more money into helping cancer patients. we put more money into mental health services than any governor in a quarter-century. we created a new program to help people with disabilities find meaningful employment within communities. looking ahead, we have a plan to make the next four years even better, to build off the successes and make it even better four years from now. i invite you to go to scott walker.com and look at the details. it is a plan to make sure that everyone that wants a job can find a job, help you keep more of your paycheck, learn more to

earn more, and move from government dependence to work. growing up as a kid, i do not remember anyone in my class who said, hey scott, someday, when i grow up, i want to be dependent on my government. freedom and prosperity does not come from the government. it comes from empowering people. that is the american dream. i want to help everybody live their piece of the american dream, and that is why i ask for your vote. >> i know wisconsin can do better. i know that by ensuring that everyone has a fair shot, it -- we will do better. governor walker has had four years, and his approach, the push those at the top ahead of you, just is not working. we are dead last in the midwest in terms of job creation. and it is not getting any better. 2014 is on track to be the worst year in job creation of the last five years.