years ago in a debate in the studio, you said that you would increase access to pell and you would not have supported the rhyme budget that would ts.sh funding to pell gran yet you did. what changed? >> nothing changed. a -- thathat it was was a ryan budget that was done before i was elected. that was a much different budget from the one that i supported the balances in 10 years. look at the rhine-murray bipartisan appropriations package that i supported with increased pell grants. it's not just about putting a vision in place. -- only ington, d.c. washington dc can a zero growth

be considered a cut. if we can get away from that process, you will not have things like across the board cuts and sequestration. he will let a rank-and-file member of congress who is a freshman to have a say in spending and make sure the college is affordable. i am proud that i actually voted to stop the student loan interest rates from doubling in june and july of 2013. this is something that should never have happened because, at that time, that is something that should never have happened because, at that time, congress was in the business of setting student loan rates. congress should not be in the business of setting student loan rates. sam is should be able to take advantage of student loan rates that are at historical lows. we have to change the debate for how much a student will pay for for ever-increasing debt

at the end of college education and what interest rate it going to be because we stopped them from doubling. and we need to do what i have been doing is a member of college -- of congress. campuses, i college talk to those who are in charge about -- when they ask me to ll again, i say what are you doing to make sure those pell grants go further for our students and that students have the ability to work on the university if they want to to help pay their college so they don't have that debt when they leave college? that is the type of leadership i have been exhibiting on this issue and in this district and that is exactly what i intend to continue to do in my next term. >> would you support an increase to pell grant funding? and how would you pay for it? >> -- and how would you pay for it? >> absolutely, we need to increase pell grant funding.

a bill out there called the government waste reduction act. it will go after and see where we can cut, see where we can/, see where we can save dollars international economy. set in the studio and said you would not vote for a ryan budget to cut pell grants and then you voted for a ryan budget that cut pell grants. another urban we have that can bring in billions of dollars is the heat program that goes after medicare, fraud, waste and abuse and medicaid fraud waste and abuse. i think it is seven united u.s.s cities and it is a attorney-driven program. it is those types of programs that, talking to students, they do rely on pell grants. whoseed to one woman husband and partner was deployed and and she was struggling

going to school so pell grants were very important to her. and that was at the campus of southern university -- southern illinois university at edwardsville. it is the next bubble. that trillion dollar student debt. how do we address that? i think people who graduated and have this student debt should be able to renegotiate their student loans at the current rate. you should not do with the ryan budget does and that is charging students interest on their loans while they are still in school. >> earlier this year, congress cut off funding a comprehensive transportation bill until next year. >> would you support an increase gallongas tax, 18.4% per

federal gasoline tax for bridge and highway repairs and other transportation items given what jennifer has laid out? '>> no, i don't. it would overly burden are middle-class and working families. down the roadcan which causes a lot of uncertainty for our labor, whether they will have any infrastructure project are not. i have heard this from a lot of our labor unions. again, i would be against a gas tax. >> use it on the transportation committee. what do you think? >> before i get to that, let me just what my opponent has said. let me be clear. the ryan budget i voted for did not cut tell grants. -- pell grants. the only issue on pell grants that i have raised is raising pell grants. i will continue to make sure that we put college affordability first because i've got a daughter who is going to be going to college next year. i know that many families are facing costs that they did not

imagine would be that high when they took their child to kindergarten for the first day and dreamt that they would be able to get that college education. we need to work to reduce the cost of attending college, make sure the state lives up to its promise. transportation. during my endorsement from the chicago tribune, i was called an infrastructure wallop. i was one of the few republicans who actually stood and said we need to invest more in infrastructure. how do we do that? do we do it by sibley raising the gas tax? even -- do we do it by simply raising the gas tax? it is agreed it will go down and dwindle and put us in the same position we are in today with an ever decreasing amount of money that we can dedicate toward infrastructure spending? that is not the best idea. what we need to do and what i have been talking about is

putting together a portfolio funding sources. us look at energy independence. let's build the keystone pipeline can mistake revenues from making america energy independent and put it towards our crumbling infrastructure. it is exactly what we did on the water for structure bill that i was proud to cosponsor and pass. that is exactly the type of bipartisan leadership i will continue to exhibit when it comes to our highways and our bridges. i want to make sure we have that debate. as a matter fact, i drove an electric vehicle here in the champagne area because it was a trade with my colleague janice hahn who talks about having an electric vehicle and never putting one penny towards the highway trust fund. it was a great example of bipartisan -- a bipartisan example when we talk about the different transportation needs in her region, which is downtown los angeles, and my region which is 14 counties.

in the electric car, i could make it home to taylorville. these are issues we need to address. locally, there is a lot of talk about high-speed rail in central illinois, especially through champaign-urbana. how can an expensive project [indiscernible] >> it is being financed and it is becoming a reality in the chicago-sailors corridor. -- chicago-st. louis corridor. we have seen the improvements. what we need to do is make sure that we put the policies in place. we need to make sure we get that good portfolio of sources. >> i guess what i am talking about is the one through champaign urbana would operate to 20. is that really possible, the cost of that? >> i don't like to say anything

is impossible when it comes to infrastructure, tom. we have to make sure that we put our good possibly as -- good policies in place and make sure that america's able to afford that infrastructure so that champaign can be the beneficiary of a high-speed rail corridor. with all ofo work the officials who have come to me and talk to me about this project. we will continue to make sure that we put infrastructure first. that is exactly why i requested that seat on the infrastructure committee. it is why i want to remain on the committee. >> do you think that is a doable project? >> i wouldn't absolutely say no. my role as your congresswoman if i am honored to be elected is what kind of infrastructure projects are feasible and what we can do to improve our communities here. mr. davis said he was in leadership on transportation in he sea -- in d.c. why was the can kicked down the road?

i'm sure it is fun driving around in an electric car, but i don't know how it helps the people of this district. we need to get back to serving the people that we were honored to be elected by instead of serving ourselves. so it's an entire philosophy change that needs to be done here. >> we are getting down to the last couple of minutes. tom, you had a question you wanted to ask about military gear to local police departments. demilitarization of local police, we reported that a federal program sold several gear. and is that something the federal government should do? >> it probably sounded like a good idea at the beginning because it was excess military gear. but seeing the visual on tv, what happened in ferguson with these tanks and these police officers dressed in absolute military gear and armed with assault weapons was -- with

demonstrate is on the other side should not happen. so there should be some transparency and oversight. i can't tell you my son is an expert on m-four assault weapons. that takes a lot of training. it concerns me that police officers would not have the training to handle these types of weapons. so, yeah, i think this should be looked at and see what you can do with this type of program. >> commerce and? >> i think some of our police officers are some of the most well-trained individuals we have. but i am also concerned about amber apps, about the visual that we sign ferguson, missouri. and that is why this program needs to be looked at by members of congress. we need to ensure that it is going to provide the equipment that will be beneficial to our communities. >> would you prefer that it be shut down? amno, that is exactly what i getting at. you can throw the baby out with the bathwater.

in --me program has gave has given to a county a humvee. that takes deputies that when it is snowing and pulls drivers out of the ditch. this is good military equipment and we have to be diligent in making sure that we don't get rid of those opportunities. we have to make sure that we address the visuals that we sign ferguson with the mrap and make sure that those driving through dewitt county have an opportunity to get served. >> you had a question about climate change. >> do you believe that climate change is real and man-made? and what can the federal government do to reduce the effects? >> i have been clear. climate change is real. we can discuss, the chip -- we can discuss how much of it is real and how much of it is man-made. we can lead the world in

emissions reductions. but at the same time, not sacrificing growth and jobs in our economy. change, absolutely exists. man-made climate change exists. and all we have to do is look out our window on sundays and absolutely have -- on some days and absolutely have first knowledge that it exists. i think in emissions restrictions should be a place but not at the expense of jobs. it is not a black or white issue but it is a fine balance in but -- balance. but we continue -- we have a great opportunity here with our nine colleges and universities to really go to explore the alternative energy and renewable energy sources and really be a in thisn our nation district with renewable energy sources. >> i have to ask this. if you had a song that played -- [laughter] when you walk in, what would it be? >> what would your theme song

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100 debates for the control of congress. >> one of the more closely watched house races this year is new york's 11th district which includes staten island and parts of brooklyn. the incumbent michael grimm is n representinglica new york city. he and his democratic opponent domenic recchia met last week. >> this is a special vote 24th team addition of eyewitness news. >> all eyes are on the race for new york's 11th congressional district. his democraticnd challenger are vying to represent staten island and seven brooklyn. the issues in the 11th district race from superstorm sandy

recovery to police relations following the death of eric garner. the candidates face off in the first allies debate. >> welcome to this very special election edition. i am diana williams. the election is over two weeks away great many voters on staten island are still undecided. we hope that this neck cap will help. joining me this morning is michael grimm and domenic recchia. a lot of questions to cover. we are limiting responses to one minute, with rebuttals at 45 seconds. each candidate will have one minute to make the closing remarks. we want to get started right away. we will begin enough of that order with michael grimm. we are starting with a big topic, ebola. your republican colleagues are saying that there should be a travel ban in place, staten island has the largest liberian population outside of liberia. do you support that? >> i support a serious restriction on travel. people should not be traveling for recreational purposes.

at a minimum, the first that is a serious restriction. if we see another instance of people in united states, then i would support a ban. at a minimum, a serious restriction should be in place. >> a series restriction. another ebola case, ban people from liberia coming to this country. and other countries as well where ebola is raging. >> i just met libyan leaders in -- with liberian leaders in staten island, their biggest concern is to be stigmatized. if someone does have symptoms, we don't want them being fearful of going to the hospital because they are worried about that stigma. i have met with the library community. -- the liberian community. i spoke with an infectious disease specialist at both hospitals. an infectious disease specialist at both hospitals. there are procedures in place. whatsoever. i do have concern that as we

approach the flu season, and the symptoms are so common, that there is going to be some panic. >> where do you stand? >> i think the process and places the right process. physical exams, philip paperwork, and we have to make sure that is kept up with. you have to monitor the future. we have a new czar that was appointed today. the ebola czar. that was the right move. , beink we have to work prepared. the governor, mayor, has stated we are ready for any ebola crisis in the city. we are working in the right direction. we are prepared to move forward to help anybody. we also have to look out for the issue of the cbc -- cdc. they are funded properly. my opponent cut the funding to them. and the hospital preparedness -- >> that is not true.

they have actually had increased funding. >> you bring up a cdc. think that the head of the cdc should go? >> right now, in a crisis, we need to address it. we need to assist those people. we need to get the message out to work with the hospitals. think we need to focus -- >> do think he has done a good job to do thing president obama has done a good job? >> we need to focus on helping the people of the city. i'm worried about the people of my district in this country great we have to focus on them. we have one of the largest liberian communities. what you think about the head of the cdc. >> i think has been a lack of leadership. what i am hearing when i go to the hospitals, i'm speaking directly to the nurses that say they get information every day. they don't feel like they have the equivalent they need. first of all, there should have

been procedures in place at the cdc before there was a problem. ginny, eerilythat n -- they should have been prepared for that. i don't think the president has handled it that well. i don't think the cdc has handled that well. there was a nurse who was exposed to in a public patient and allow the fly on a commercial airline, and the ministrations that she should have been on a private jet of some sort. like average nurse can of fort charter flight. you cut the funding. you cut the funding for hospital preparedness. face the facts. you cut the funding. fundingdc has had more than ever before. >> you argue to cut the funding of hospital preparedness. ok. you know what? now you're lying. and i dress that?

-- can i address that. you are indicted for lying under of. i ask you as a gentleman. -- you are a lawyer. you have obligations. i would never say anything that is false. >> gentleman. gentle and. -- gentleman. , we cannot allow this to become a shouting match. you have brought it up. your trial begins on december 1. this is because of issues with a restaurant you ran in manhattan hiring illegal immigrants, not paying taxes on the earnings. it does become a question of why should people vote for you when you over the next month and years may be dealing with a very difficult trial.

? ? >> it would not be years. do all democrats out there and republicans believe in the resumption of innocence. that is part of our constitutional rights. we have the presumption of innocence. i am entitled to my day in court. when my opponent makes these assertions, as a lawyer, i think there are very offenses. it proves that he does not believe in the constitution. opinion, it is supercritical. allow me to have the same constitutional rights that every person in this country has. >> it raises questions of effectiveness. can you be effective if you're dealing with a trial? many on capitol hill steer clear of you. recently, before we broke, i passed one of the

biggest pieces of legislation, landmark insurance reform, bipartisan, working across the aisle, all the while this investigation was going on. ofassed the most legislation my freshman class. i have been truly effective. i don't think my effectiveness is being called into question by my constituents. i would also say that my constituents -- i would put up against any member of congress in any district -- i move mountains for my constituents consistently. they know that. >> would you resign? >> if i could not serve. i would step aside. there would be a special election. that is obvious. >> the bill was passed before he was indicted. he is not being truthful. the insurance bill was passed before he was indicted. he's talking about the flood insurance bill. the bill that would lower premiums. that, three years

prior to that, he voted to increase the premiums. he is ineffective right now. his leadership does not want anything to do with him. he has no committee. he can't get anything done. he is going to be on trial for several weeks. people of this district were not be served by a congressman, because he is too busy dealing with his own problems. that is not right. he should step down. the people of this district deserve better. they deserve somebody who will fight for them 20 47. i am that person. i have a track record -- >> can i rebut that? no one in the world thanks that the house is going to flip to democrat. it is a republican house. the democrats don't even have -- he won't be even at the table. talk about ineffective. we already have 12 other democrats in the house. what is one more democrat?

>> you are not at the table. >> lets not get into another shouting match. i want to turn it now to sandy, superstorm sandy. a lot of homes on staten island have not been rebuilt. domenic recchia and this is directed to you. many of the homeowners blame dysfunction and red tea -- take in the programs. mayor bloomberg, when he announced that program and june 2013, why has that program not work. ? neededprogram improvements to when the new mayor came in, he made improvements. a lot more needs to be done. we have to wait 80 days before a ,ill was passed in congress when the katrina bill --

we did not want to make the mistakes that were made on katrina. we had to wait 80 days before a bill was passed. in addition to that, in my committee, we passed a bill that is open and transparent. all of the spinning -- spending went online to see where the money is going. i will talk to my district. i was setting up everything. i was moving money around so we could open up the schools and hospitals. >> people on staten island dealing with this parsing there is way too much red tape. >> we tried to make less red tape and get the money moving faster. when i am a congressman, i will work with the city and state to get the money we need faster. to get those people back in their homes. those who want to get reimbursed, need to get reimbursed. i will to make sure this moves. >> you know about the frustration. >> i'm extremely frustrated.

he keeps talking about an 80 day wait. the 80 day delay, most of that time was the president waiting for the governor and the mayor to give us a number. that was the first month and a half. half we hadnth and to wait for a number. had a veryina, we complicated system here with subways and so on. other thing is, after the money was given to the city, my opponent did not hold one press conference. >> i work for the people. >> let him finish. >> i don't grandstand. >> there were no results. there wereline was zero starts in staten island. there was your reimbursement checks. it was a disaster. i called on mayor bloomberg --

do you remember what the first tranche of money was? how much money? >> utilities and you know so much. >> of easy you don't know. $1.77 billion. do no know much was given for family homes? >> i wrote the bill. >> let me take you the priorities of congress. we gave it to the city. the city was posted give it to homeowners. you know much they allocated, -- 300$1.80 billion million. i don't think that is what was best. that is why people are still waiting today. it was the wrong decision. -- e do know people lets move on.

lets move onto another issue that folks in staten island are concerned about. police brutality. a community, great concern about the police community relations there. you voted against having an inspector general, domenic recchia. you voted against the nypd racial profiling law, which allows people to sue police have they been profiled. would you still vote that same case?ven the eric gardner my thoughts and prayers go out to eric gardner and his family. out of respect to that family reservenypd, i will decision and till the district attorney finishes his full investigation. i have confidence in the district attorney. he does a great job. he will be fair in his investigation. i do believe that i would still

-- those bills i voted for. we have district attorney. we have internal affairs. we did not need that. it is an opportunity for people to sue. felt were not the right bills. i expect us to work together with the community and police. years,istrict, over the we bring the police and the community together. that is what i'm going to do as a congressman. i am going to work together with the community and the police department to bring them together to foster a relationship and bring crime down. that is what we need. >> do you think the justice department should take over the investigation? decision that the justice department has to make. i am holding off all decisions until the district attorney comes up with his final report. >> your response. let me go back to the beginning of the question. inspector general, ability to sue.

>> we have a big difference between my opponent and i. as a congressman for staten island, the one thing is that the constituents in my district know where i stand. i think the mayor made a big mistake by bringing al sharpton to center stage. why? al sharpton is divisive and exploits the opportunity. my heart is broken for that families will could this is a tragedy. to bring in someone like al sharpton who will exacerbate the situation -- that is the wrong thing. when they wanted to march across the verrazano bridge, i was one of the first to say that this is inappropriate. this should not be done. since the wrong message to staten island. the rest of staten island thought this was a march against them. anyone in any agency can make a mistake. i was very outspoken. we have someone qualified and

capable. when they didn't do the rally -- didn't do the rally, anti-nypd slogans were said. they have a difficult enough job. >> i want you both to characterize height you believe community-police relations are. you characterize the relationship? it can always be improved. >> a good, fair, poor? >> i think they are good. this is an isolated incident. this is strained relations. overall, i would say the relationship is good. >> a couple of great yes or no questions. we will break it up a little bit. there was a study to find out tourist, should pay to ride the staten island pharisee -- fairy. more tould cost implement a system for them than

it would yield in revenue. hurt the would businesses on staten island, cultural institutions. that is what i'm going to do as a congressman. i will work with the cultural institutions to increase the attendance. since the tour went up on the verrazano bridge to $15, attendance at the museum has been going down. that is what we need to do. they have been going from manhattan to brooklyn, bring them to staten island. >> my opponent keeps talking about how we need to have more tourism. he voted for and a dollar toll. >> i did not vote. i did not vote to raise the toll. >> you lied under oath. you were indicted. >> i did not vote to raise the toll. no. i did not vote to raise the toll.

>> gentleman. another yes or no question here. another yes or no question. lets find out where you stand on adding pedestrian bike lanes on the island. yes or no? >> that is something we should look into. i believe in having community input. one reason own coney island. we had the input of the community. communityt with the and be their voice before arrested decisions. >> they did an entire documentary on how domenic recchia sold-out coney island. >> jobs were there. >> $9,500. your record is a 20 count criminal indictment. calleden island is often

the forgotten borough. what have you done in bore .orough, stat island going to make sure every hospital had what they needed, including backup generators. i went to each other, making sure they had food and everything they needed. from day one, even before the storm, on the ground, making sure they were not forgotten. the staten island university just received a $40 million federal grant. the medical center just relieved 12 main dollars -- received $12 million. funds for twoed new ferries and infrastructure. recchia, if you are in congress are presenting staten island, what would you specifically do for staten island? addressld work hard to the transportation issue, to lower the tolls, and fight to

get funding for a library. that needs to be addressed. transportation to get cars off the roadway when i drive to my mother's house, i'm feeling the impact. in addition to that, we have to address jobs, raise the minimum fairness, paycheck equal pay, and education. lets face it. we are going to fight hard to bring education from headstart programs to high school and the school. >> let me ask you this. you live in brooklyn. are you staten island enough for staten island. lives on staten island. my three sisters live on staten island. i have been working staten island. i have supported many cultural institution, the nonprofits. >> are you staten island enough? >> i have lived there for the last 21 years. >> you live in queens.

>> i just said i lived there for the last 21 years. obvious he am a 21 years old. i live somewhere before i was 21. besides that, we hear about light rails. he was the finest or of the city council for 12 years. the mta did not put a light rail in the budget. the reality is it is the local electorate that light rail. had 12 years to do it. he never did anything for the only thing he did is that he voted for congestion pricing and added in a dollar toll on the brooklyn bridge. >> i would like to address that. the city council put the first part of the money -- we needed another $5 million. you know what, we couldn't, michael grimm voted for seacrest raise in pay that close that program. programs were going

to close because of micrograms vote. grimm's vote. you are the last one to talk about fiscal responsibility could you can't bounce your own checkbook. the minority leader came to me and said we have to say these programs. people were not going to have day care because of the damage he did with sequestration. if that had not happened, we could have put the money in. >> how does that make sense? >> we pay down debt. >> we had a surplus. the sequestration bill, what president signed into law? a republican president? >> general and, let me go to the next question. gentleman, let me go to the next question.

>> let me talk about my record to your record. why don't you talk about why you voted for that. you hurt the people of your district. >> absolutely not. >> one to go to some of these headstart programs? >> i don't. dca, the very following year we changed it and took us cut back. again, the sequestration was signed into law by the president and voted on by 94 democrats. >> i was in washington when that happened. let me move on to another question. if you were to be in washington, you would be working with president obama, at least for the next two years, do you disagree or agree with the president? >> the president and i will not agree on all the issues.

i'm not in favor of common core. it is data driven. it was not rolled out the right way. it is a problem. school want to help district this country, it should not be tied to any curriculum or what you should do. any other areas where you disagree? always agree on everything treat i will stand up to the president for the best interest of the people in my district. i will stand up to republicans and democrats. i know how to work to get things done. >> in areas where you agree? act wasffordable care passed. we have to help people. more people are covered today. that is something we have to work on. i want to go to congress and correct the a formal health care act. there are things that the president and i do agree on. we want to pass a jobs bill.

we want to pass a guns bill. we need to do something with the gun violence in this country. >> your response? >> the only thing i agree with my partner on is common core. as far as obamacare and therefore will health care act, he is crippling our health care system. it is a disaster. it is on the backs of seniors. $716 billion. and more doctors, more and more patients are being dropped from the policies. that is one area where i disagree with the president. he has had no foreign policy. >> i have to stop you. point where you'd each get a closing statement. it is limited to one minute. we start with domenic recchia. >> thank you for having us here today. congressing for because this district has not been represented by someone that they can be proud of. represented by someone who has

not been put under a criminal indictment or 20 counts. we deserve better. i am that person. i went to go to washington to fight or every person in my district. i will to fight on transportation, fight to get funding for light rail, we've make transportation improvement, lower tolls. i want to go to washington and get a jobs bill passed, raise the minimum wage, and get funding for the things that we need for our schools and middle schools, from childcare to a college affordability. in addition, we have to stick up for women. i want to fight for women to make sure that they get paid just as much as men when they are doing the jobs. i have three daughters. i'm married to a public school teacher. i know what families are going to. look for me on november 4 as your next congressman. >> thank you very much for having me. i appreciate it. listen, i think people in my district know that i'm accessible. they know that i'm there when they need them. i think they also know who i am as a person. when i was 19 years old, i

enlisted in the marine corps because that's what i believed in. i give up her career on wall street to become a special agent of the fbi. as a congressman, i continued my service treat i have been in service for my of the life. i have a passion for serving my community and country. at the end of the day, if you look at my results from day one, i passed legislation that was important. more important, i am proud of the fact that my constituents know me and they know that i move mountains. most of my time in congress, even during the time when congress cannot get anything done, there was landmark lands legislation. i am part of my record and the people are present. thank you very much. >> that is this first televised debate. the election is november 4 could we want to thank the candidates. a lively discussion could we thank you for watching. don't forget to vote. it is your right and privilege.

c-span. one of the many debates we are bringing to you this campaign tone. >> leer are a few of the comments we have received on ourp ebola coverage. >> why can't we get behind the president and what he wants to do for the good of the people? and that is this ebola thing. as i told someone this morning, i think it is over hyped by the media. they give it 10 to 12 minutes evansry morning, and they are

still talking about it. there are other things that are important to talk about, too, but they don't do it. >> i would like to see c-span do a question about is this ebola virus the proof that we need a national one payor health care system. we have just seen what happened in texas with this capitalistic health care system. now it is going to cost us millions and millions to clean that mess up. >> regarding ebola and hospitals not being ready, you had a guest on eight or nine years ago. i forget the author's name. she wrote a book called pandemic, and she went into how our hospitals weren't prepared. it was under the busch administration. there was readiness for nothing. we had a shortage of doctors and nurses. i wonder how that fares today.

her book said it all. we were not ready then. we are not ready now. >> continue to let us know what you think about the programs you are watching. call us at the number on your screen, e-mail us or tend us a tweet. join the c-span conversation, like us on facebook and follow us on twitter. >> our campaign 2014 debate coverage continues with the race in illinois' 10th istrict. democratic incumbent brad dold defeated bob narrowly. they meet again. abc 7 bate is courtesy in chicago. bc seven eyewitness s presents the 2014 congressional

district debate. >> hello. we welcome you to the debate in the race for the 10th congressional district of illinois. abc debate is presented by seven eyewitness news as well as the league of women voters of illinois. our candidates are mr. bob dold and brad schneider. your responses. i want to welcome you. your responses are limited to 60 seconds. only 30 seconds for the follow-up question. in addition to our questions, something a little different, you will have the opportunity to actually ask a question of each other and have the person respond to that. at the end of the debate today, you will have one minute each for your closing statement. we will begin with my colleague charles,. we will begin with charles snyder. served af you have term in congress representing the 10th illinois district. when either of you returns to

the house next year, what specifically will you do individually to help break the gridlock in that chamber. ? >> thank you. it is good to be here. i want to thank abc seven in the league of women voters. i travel around the district. i talk to people. the frustration that they feel is blocking real progress. it is blocking progress on immigration reform which passed the senate one year ago and is stuck in the house without having a vote. wage,g the minimum extending an appointment insurance, passing a long-term transportation funding bill. all these things are stuck because of the gridlock we see. the republicans refusing to bring debate or vote. my goal is to work with colleagues to find a way to get these issues to the floor. i let the effort last winter and tried to force a vote on extending unemployment insurance. boehner toforce john

bring it to the floor. i respect people's right to vote yes or no, but the citizens of the 10th district, the american people conga deserve a congress of votes on these issues. your answer to the same question? >> i think washington is not working. realize istalk to that they are falling behind food washington is not stepping up. i am pleased to have been ranked as the most independent bipartisan member in the congress. i work with those on the other side of the aisle. it is a hallmark of the 10th district. it is something that i used to say that i have upheld. i have gotten the endorsement from the daily herald in chicago tribune and they have said that bob dold is the one who will in gridlock in washington. i believe there are bipartisan solutions, putting people before the politics and get solutions done for the 10th district and our country. that is the record that i have amassed. that is what i will continue to do when i go back to the united states congress. with all due

respect, i did not hear anything but talking points. what are you going to do specifically when you get back there? what are you going to do individually to break the gridlock? >> what i did in my first term, find the people i can work with and introduce legislation in -- a republican from georgia, indiana, north carolina, people have good relationships with. work through the process of trying to build coalitions, bring people together, make sure that we can get it to the floor for a vote. we passed legislation to put sanctions on has a lot this summer. we passed legislation last year to protect israel, to increase their military edge. there are things that can get done. >> thank you. , what can you do? >> this comes down to leadership. it means sticking your neck out.

working with the other side. something i have been able to do. specifically, lets take a look at the budget. in 2012, for the first time in a generation, there was a bipartisan budget. it was based on the residence deficit reduction commission. they stuck in a cap to cosponsor the budget. i was one of them. these are the types of things that the 10th district has grown accustomed to bring everything i did was with bipartisan support because i am so that he who meets a budget and a payroll, small business owner, i realize we have to work together to solve problems, and that is what the american public needs. >> this is a question for both of you. i want to begin with mr. bob dold. in 2011 at 2012, you voted several times to repeal the affordable care act. will you continue to vote with your party to repeal obama care if you are elected this time? >> i think what is important to know is that we need to take a step back and take a look at what we want in our health care system. what we wanted to look out going

forward. i think what we have right now is far too politicized. when you talk about the affordable care act, people say -- people should be saying what we want in our care? i think we want hastened centric care. patient-centric care. if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. so many families and small gone toes have been -- the mailbox and found their plan was canceled. they can't see the oncologist that they have been getting treatment for. those of the things that we have to fix. i will step up to try to fix those problems, something that i'm committed to do, because we need to have a health care system that works are everybody. be changed need to about obamacare question mark >> sure. i was disappointed years ago when i watched my opponent vote 28th times to repeal the affordable health care act. it is far from perfect. it is an important step forward in a health care system. we can't go back to a time where

people can't get insurance because they have pre-existing conditions that we can't go back to a time where families are not able to keep their children on their health care plan until age 26. when someone gets sick, they can receive a notice from their insurance company kicking them off of their plan. all of these things were dressed by the affordable care act. we need to move forward. it is not perfect. i have legislation that would repeal the medical the vice tax. this is a tax on innovation. we need a innovation to move our health care system forward, to provide the technologies that will allow us to reduce our overall taxable health care. he joined with his party every single time, repeal the affordable care act, and moved is backwards. i'm going to build on what's working great i will fix on what is not working. we cannot repeal this. you want to fix the affordable care act. i think it's critical.

that is called fixing this. he wants to call it fixing. when i do it, it's called the lake. there are a lot of problems great if we look at what is going on, it is one party putting through 1/5 of the economy without a bipartisan solution, we will have a lot of issues with this and need to be fixed rate frankie, we need bipartisan solutions, people coming together. >> i will take you with all due again,, time and time avoiding other issues to repeal the affordable care act. mr. bob dold voted with his party. that is not fixing it. we could find agreement. iere we disagree is that don't want to repeal the full affordable health care act or you do. we need to move forward. we need to build on what is

working could we can't go back to that time where people are not able to get insurance pay >> thank you very much. now we will move on. we have questions that were submitted to us trade these questions coming into our abc seven facebook page. this first question comes from a gentleman who opposes this, workforce participation is at a 30 year low. what are your plans to integrate the jobs market? mr. schneider? 200,000 new jobs created every month last year. you that is the right direction. i talked to people. they are struggling to there having a hard time making ends meet. they are not feeling it. quality,ou create more welcoming jobs. manufacturing is a key component of that food we have in this 600,000 300,000 open manufacturing just because these company's cannot match people with these openings. i have been working hard to close this gap. i introduced legislation that would work with educational institutions.

community colleges, technical schools, to make sure that the people were going to the schools, get the skills they need, expand our manufacturing. we weren do that, adjust to our konica that is growing our economy. it will help people get on-the-job training through co-op and internship spear that will expand our economy. >> what would you do specifically. >> i do believe that manufacturing is absolutely vital. we live in the third largest manufacturing district in the nation. what is interesting is that my opponent voted against it. that is 70% of the time. he voted against manufacturing 70% of the time. that is a step backwards, without question. i think we have to talk about how we fix our tax code. we all know businesses that have -- people have been put out of work. we need to fix our tax code to make it work for everyone, not just for the well-connected. fix jobs, in terms of

how we train them, how we extend education, science, technology, engineering, mathematics, to make sure the students have the skills they need to get jobs in the 21st century. i believe we have a key ingredient here. we have to make washington worked at we have to make able come together to solve these problems in a bipartisan fashion. right now, washington is not working. people are falling behind. that is what i think is absolutely critical. i have put together a main street jobs position which talks about access project vendors and small businesses to get resources, invest in this is. of you thegive each opportunity. if you have ever wanted to ask the german across the table from you one question, this is your chance. we want to start with you mr. bob dold. doyou say one thing and another. you have rallied against the koch brothers in the fossil fuel industry, yet invested hundreds of thousands of dollars to line your pockets. you say you are for small businesses yet you voted and small businesses. over 70% of the time. you say you are going to be

bipartisan, get you have produced nothing but a partisan record as noted by the chicago tribune and others. you are running a bipartisan campaign -- partisan campaign. you have gutted the program. after you miss by the voters this many times, how can they expect to trust anything you say? >> again, you criticize folks. the votes i have taken to protect the affordable care act -- i will protected because it means we move forward. to protect social security and medicare, affordable health care only one of us has voted that way. that is you. you voted for twice. it is the medicare guaranteed. aarp says it will cost the nation's $6,000 at your more for medicare insurance. the wall street journal says it will end medicare as we know for you voted for twice. you voted to this fund, dismantle, or rebuild your

formal health care time and time again. you voted 200 times against our environment. sierra club, league of conservation voters, i have their endorsement. that is why planned parenthood have given me their endorsement. i said i would fight for a woman's right to choose 100% of the time. i have. i work to protect our environment. i have. the voters in the 10th district can judge -- >> thank you very do have a chance to rebut. about hownent talks it will end medicare. that was the lie of the year. he was to go back -- what is interesting is that he is running a campaign because he has no record to run on. he wants to poke holes at me. in actuality, he did cast a vote that is cutting $700 billion out of medicare, 156 billion dollars out of medicare advantage. lake, the singers are

sitting around the table, they are having a real problem. -- thank you very much. at this point, it is your chance to ask him a question. >> let me first respond. it's and we did not happen. the scots. the affordable care act, i voted to protect it. you want to repeal it. i won't. two years ago when you served in congress, a simple yes or no question, didn't you vote every time all four times when they brought the repeal to the floor? get a vote to repeal the affordable care act? >> do i have a chance to respond? >> yes or no question? >> we need to have a bipartisan plan. downdoesn't need to go without a single republican a vote. net to pelosi says we had to

pass it to find out what is in it. that is not something we want to put people's health care on the line for. i'm committed to fixing the problem because it needs to be fixed. when women are able to see their doctors or go to the , or smallans businesses have been thrown off the plan they are in, that is a problem. it is a problem i will fight for for the people. >> you voted to repeal it for. >> you legislate as well as you listen. >> mr. snyder, you have a chance to rebut. >> i want to go back to the conversation about medicare. journal says it would plan -- and edit -- end medicare as we know it.

[talking over each other] >> they said the affordable care act does not cut medicare benefits. you tend to say that it was cut by $150 billion? >> that is false. >> we will move on. this is not from an individual. it is a comment we heard from many viewers who have written into our abc 7 facebook page. it goes beyond that. have to do with the negative tone that they see in many cases in terms of the political ads being run in the campaign. my question for you is, what do you see as impact overall on voters? are they disillusioned? >> let me start by saying we out.put four ads every single one was positive. we tell them about what we want to do and our vision going

forward. i think that is imperative. you want to give them opportunity to vote. i focused on reasons to vote for me. please have gotten the endorsement. look. some may not come from your individual campaigns. >> i think what voters want to hear is the record and not just the rhetoric. what did i vote for a what am i fighting for? .hat has been the key focus this is across the country. it allows them to spend unlimited quantities of money and say anything they want and not be held accountable.

you do not know who they are. karl rove, $600,000. we saw another one come in again. could putdividuals money onto a candidate. what happens when they're talking to this individual? candidate.pose a we need to fix the citizens united decision to helping support legislation that will do just that. we need a constitutional amendment that will take our elections and put them back into the hands of the people the voices of the candidates. >> we have another question. >> i want to go back to what mr. dole alluded to years ago implying that you are just a pond of the house democratic

leadership -- when if ever have you broken with minority leader pelosi? >> thank you for the question. i'm a proud democrat, but i don't think either has a monopoly of the good ideas. we need to work together to solve our problems. we need to protect our environment and clean air and clean water. ensure women will have the right to make the choices about their own body. i broke with my party on the medical device tax and broke ago lastarty a year summer to extend the penalties with affordable care act. i also broke with my party during the republican shutdown of the government. i thought it was irresponsible and reckless. others were saying to let the republicans dig a hole, i was willing to vote -- >> thank you.

you watch the house in session during the past year. on what issues would you have broken with the house republican leadership? >> i think what is important to know is that the people i work for are the citizens of the 10th the district. that is who we are looking to work for. those are the people we won't put first. it was ranked as one of the most independent bipartisan members in congress. that is what people of the 10th the district are looking for. my opponent is saying we are just a vote for the republicans. we laid out on a sheet all the people who were voting with the parties the most. i was one of the least purist it up to the parties and others because it was i believe the right thing to do at the time on a particular boat to go and represent the people of the tent the district whether it be on a woman's right to choose our the environment. >> you broke with -- -- i haveany will be and i will again if it is the right thing to do here to put

the people before the party every time. >> if elected, you would like to with barackext term obama in the white house. how do you think he is doing? know aboutwhat we the jobs deficit, known as talking about the leadership deficit in washington, d.c. i think leadership is critical. >> how did think the president is doing? think i have a front anyone who believes that washington is working well. i think it is incumbent upon the 10th district to have a strong voice to hold administration accountable where they need to be and work with them to solve problems. means coming up with bipartisan ideas -- >> thank you. >> let me follow up on that question. only washington could a republican vote seven times

against a woman's right to make .er own choice ryan budget for the . makes it harder for families living on food stamps. they would cut that. in only washington -- >> we are facing challenging times around the globe. ishave isis or isil that taking action in syria and northern iraq. standesent has taken a here. at what point do believe it is necessary for american troops to be involved in the fight against isis on the ground? >> we have to take a step back

and look at leadership. i will not take things off the table when of national security interest is at stake. interesting is we that they'reagain using political judgments to decisions. i think that is a problem. putill never say we won't troops on the grumpy and we don't know what tomorrow may bring. whether they believe it is a national security threat, we need to have all options on the table and not take it off. you see when time it would be necessary to put american troops on the ground? >> there are times when it is appropriate shared the only way

isis will be defeated is that the people living under their rule rise up and break the shackles of the isis ideology and brutality. isis is a clear and present danger to the people living there and to the people in the region and the rest of the world are dealing to look at the brutal beheadings of the u.s. journalists and british aid workers. we need to contain isis and pushed it back. about the people living there. provide closed ground support work with our allies to do that. we need to make sure the people living there take back their country. we need to keep our eye on the ball. the biggest threat to the region of the world is a nuclear capable iran. we need to make sure iran has no pathway to nuclear weapons. >> i would like some quick

occasion from both of you get you both claim to be pro-choice in your positions pit yet there seems to be a lot of ads out there that cloud one position versus the other. is your stancely and be specific on this in terms of your support for pro-choice as it currently exists? >> i'm pro-choice. i do not think roe v wade should be overturned. i believe there are things that we should be doing and things that we shouldn't. the democrats were in control -- i do not believe when you're talking about a few months, it is not something i would encourage or agree with. >> i'm 100% pro-choice.

they would for a bill that would allow hospitals on their decisions to deny women a life-saving termination irrespective of that woman's choice for her faithfully's. seven times currently seven times he voted against a woman's choice. the people of someone in congress who they know will be there fighting for woman's rights to make her own toys for her own body. as i've ever gave me 100% score. >> incipit is proposing you do .omething that you will have a minute, each one of you, to. >> this is an important election. we need to continue to grow our economy in the middle out. it is about to fight for our children's environment for the future and education for every

child regardless of where they live have the opportunity to a quality education to get the skills they need to succeed long-term in a global economy. to invest in innovation infrastructure, make the decisions that would put our country first, people first come and help middle-class families find a way to provide for their children and at the same time secure their retirement. i'm proud of the fact i have been in congress fighting for the priorities and values of the 10th district. i believe we have a generational commitment just as our parents did just the idea that each generation will have a future as more prosperous and secure. i'm committed to do that. i hope you'll give me one more chance. >> thank you. aroundle are sitting kitchen tables and worried that their falling behind. the cost of food and develop your truck with fuel, the cost of higher education and certainty -- uncertainty around

ofirement and the policies my point of making it harder for families to succeed. i think we ought to make it easier for families to succeed, it easier to invest and hire more people. when you look at what is going on, my opponent voted against small business 70% of the time and votes against manufacturing. i'm pleased to have gotten the endorsement of the chicago tribune and the daily herald who said that i am the candidate that will end the gridlock. my point range one of the least effective. the endorsement i'm looking for is yours. this is an important election. i ask for your help and i'm asking for your vote. >> thank you very much. great having you both here. the whole point of course is to enlighten you.

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debate. district i will be bond rating along with -- i will be moderating along with reporters. former congresswoman hayworth was elected in 2010 pit she held the seat for one term before maloney punishment won the 2012 election. they are facing off again. they will be answering as many questions as we can fit in. sponsors will be limited to one minute. the candidates will have a chance to ask each other a question. we will have an opening statement and a closing statement. these are one minute each. there will be rebuttals at the moderators discretion. go ahead. >> good evening.

neighbor. dr., and a i'm some who cares deeply about the direction our nation is heading in. i believe washington is taking our nation in the wrong direction. has been voting with nancy pelosi and obama care. i fought to protect social security and medicare. cut billionsaloney of dollars in medicare benefits. i want you to pay less for your energy. congressman maloney wanted to pay more. he cannot defend his record. he is running one of the most vicious campaigns the hudson valley has ever seen. i stand with you. washington has failed us. thank you.

>> good evening. thank you to time warner cable news and to all of you. to years ago you gave me her voice and your vote it you told me to get to work. i heard it. you're a sick of the fighting gridlock. i told you i wouldn't forget and that i came from a middle-class family. my dad works as a disabled veteran. i won't forget that we need a government fighting for the families like the one i grew up in. i went to washington. i'm proud that i have passed 13 bipartisan bills. in each one of those was a response to listening to you. they were solutions to local needs. i want to keep doing this work. i have gained the support of people right here in the hudson

valley. i have heard -- under a hearing king -- earned the ranking of -- if you give me her voice and vote come i will keep fighting for middle-class families. i look forward to a discussion of the issues tonight. >> thank you. the first question will go to dr. hayworth. it is pretty much the topic of the day. it is about ebola. it is a story that is moving so rapidly. it is difficult to get a handle on. there are talks of testimony being given on capitol hill. widespread have a outbreak. we're talking about travel bans and closing borders that summer coming for. you confident the cdc can handle the situation?

that is a crucial question. as a doctor, i'm deeply concerned about making sure that the american people and our public health is protected. i do feel that we have institute and restrict travel restrictions so that we contained the epidemic and where it is located. we could get workers in and out through special transport. and praying for our troops or over there. we have a u.s. military deployed to help control the epidemic. we need to do that. the cdc hasn't inspired confidence unfortunately. they haven't been aggressive about controlling the possibility that the epidemic could spread in doing the united states.

i think the cdc is doing the right thing and directing patients. >> do you believe that he should continue to serve? >> i think the cdc has not provided the leadership that it should. being abe open to there replacement for those with more expertise and maintaining this kind of epidemic. >> it is clear that administration has been slow off the mark on this. i'm very dissatisfied. they need to do better and they need to do better fast. the most important thing is we need new protocols for anyone who comes into contact with some of who has been exposed to the virus. they shouldn't be getting on an airplane and exposing more innocent people to infection. we need tighter protocols and have a travel and immediately on travel from these countries. there are many ibo, to the u.s.

from the countries where the ebola outbreak is the greatest. we need tighter screening procedures for all folks. -- one of the things he must not do is keep cutting the centers for disease control. the congress wants budget took $600 million out of the cdc. those are the funds that we need right now to be fighting an epidemic like ebola. when no one to give tax cuts to millionaires -- >> forgive me for cutting you off. regarding the director of the -- do youw you do not believe he should continue to serve? >> i think you could stay in the job right now. the better measure him against a better yardstick right away.

if he can get the job done -- cannot do the job done, let's get someone who can. what is important is action. we need a travel ban. a fully funded cdc. tighter protocols on health care workers. we need to make sure we know what is good happen with our men and women who will be put into the hot zone. we better know what we are doing before we do that. i think it has been slow and in adequate. we need to do better. >> would you like to respond? >> i read the guidelines. by the way, it isn't a matter of politics. we had to deploy the resources appropriately to deal with it today. they are not adequate. not confident that he has this fully in hand. we saw what happened to these

two nurses. they were not given appropriate everyctions here and health care worker in contact with any bowl should be completely covered and completely protected. that is one example of the -- ure for interrupting. it was something that he said that he had asked for additional dollars in the fiscal budget of 2015. it has left them less able to address the problem. the cdc and i believe the cbo has come out with figures on this. the cdc has had a bearing budgets on all of the kinds of leadership spewed in needs adequate resources. known as questioning that.

this is not the canopy politics. >> -- this is not the time to play politics. >> thank you. >> job creation remains a top priority. new york is like in behind other states. states.ng behind other how would you make sure they are getting enough help? please try to be specific. >> it is a broad topic, but the most important topic. we need good jobs. right now are middle-class is getting squeezed. that is why i am working to grade a whole new generation of wealth. that is i want to invest hundreds of billions of dollars in american infrastructure. we need to invest in our country and we can do it with private dollars.

i think we need to train our workers and invest in our schools. i think we need to help local businesses. i have worked to keep creating jobs right here in the hudson valley. i have worked with the original development council on things like the biotech sector. i'm working on a renewable -- guys like jim taylor say she's killing small business. congresswoman hayworth doesn't believe washington has any role to play. i think that is wrong. cognition be a good partner as we go jobs for the middle class. -- congress should be a good -- as wes it is across grow jobs for the middle class. the follows a for and obama agenda.

it has kept prices skyhigh that have indicated hiring. small businesses are free to hire because they cannot afford .o ensure that workers the have failed to rein in the regulators who are raising energy prices right here in the hudson valley. valley is our hudson this is afford to be able to have operations here. let's stop the avalanche of red tape and regulations coming out of washington. the congressman has done nothing to help with that severe problem. it has to do with his pockets being lined with campaign dollars. >> if you could get into what you would do differently -- .> i would lift these burdens the health care costs are out of

control. obama care did nothing. help -- if we want to folks, we have to actually lower the cost of insurance. obamacare doesn't do that. that is the sure way to keep people from being able to work here in the hudson valley should i voted to rein in the regulators and stop the avalanche. they're making it impossible to hire. nonsense. a bunch of the truth is we have got the farm bill done. the cumbersome it didn't even bother to get on the agriculture committee. i got that bill done. it is the best farm bill that has ever been written. local working with businesses at you should be ashamed of yourself for running down jim taylor. used it in this very room and

you said it was a great project you hope it arrives and you wish them well. and you start supposing that than you said you wouldn't lift a finger to help you and now he is a bad guy? we have got to help everyone. it is my job to be a good partner. enginesto create job again in these small cities. the private sector will always be the job creation engine. i created hundreds of good jobs here in new york. i know what it takes to make payroll. . passed legislation what it does is it reduces red tape and bureaucracy. so veterans get the disability claims heard pastor. those of the local solutions i have heard. >> congressman, you are over your time. >> may i rebuy? >-- rebut?

>> very quickly. >> there's the national federation of independent business. only one of us has the strong endorsement of the national federation of independent is nice. that is me. i voted consistently to help our small businesses. compass minerals maloney -- congressman maloney voted against small businesses. he did not gain their endorsement because he has not walk the walk. he has voted consistently to place burdens on us and not to lift them. >> we have to move on. >> we move on to a topic you both have talked about. that is veterans. do have an ad out that criticizes congressman maloney's record on veterans? he supported the bipartisan budget agreement that included those cuts and was supported by 332 of the house including some

of your republican colleagues. that -- it is a two-part question. why did you leave out those details in your ad? please point to sums specific policies that you differ with when it comes to veterans. >> i'm blessed to be the daughter of two world war ii veterans. in thector, i work veteran system. i care for our veterans in the v.a.. well how crucial it is that we provide the right kind of care and compensation to our veterans. one thing i would never do is cut $6 billion from veterans and military families benefits. i do not care which members of which party voted for that legit. it was the wrong thing to do.

what i did do when i was in the house of representatives was to recognize that the obama administration was trying to sell off pieces on the campuses for private development. i stopped it. i acted on behalf of our veterans and stop it. when i get back, i will make sure they have health insurance, no questions asked. they deserve it all. they do not deserve to have $6 billion cut in benefits. >> point to some specific policies that you disagree with when it comes to veterans. what else has he done wrong? >> clearly to cut veterans benefits is something that indicates that this is not the way to care for our veterans. what more do you need to say about that? i know because i have fought for our veterans and for preserving

theya hospital aspect need. i made sure that those campuses wouldn't be sold off for private development. --you last a great question you asked a great question. itt check. board called orgmefully -- factcheck. golden shamefully misleading because it is not true. that was the cut in the ryan budget that you voted for twice. here are the facts. the navy andt of was 100% disabled it he spent three months of his life in a hospital trying to walk again. charges throw around like that, you should think about who you are talking about and what you are saying. --have held 600 individual help to 600 individuals in my

office. you want to help speed up the disability claims. we are fighting every day for folks. congresswoman never did anything for veterans. that is why a republican comic-con that veteran and army colonel, is praising my work. they know my record. stop lying politics with the veterans. -- stop play politics with the veterans. i respect senator larkin should we have worked very well together. he introduced me to the r&r project in middletown. it is a crucial project to help

bettors at post-traumatic stress disorder. i was introduced to the folks this past july. i'm concerned about our veterans who have post a medic stress. i think this is a promising new therapy. as a doctor, i have studied it. i started his support network started a support network for them to make sure there are effective therapies for this enormous suffering. everywhere i talk about this project, i will encounter veterans to say i know what you are talking about. .> we will move on ms. regarding the farm bill. there was a deal. it took more than two deals. there were fights and both sides. the main focus was about food stamp funding.

there are billions of dollars cut. would you have voted in favor of the final agreement? the foodlieve that stamp should be part of this discussion at all? or should we take food stamps out? >> having served in hudson valley, i know how crucial our family farms are. we have tremendous sources for healthy food. i have certainly fought for the farmers when hurricane irene struck. back dollars for relief and restoration to our devastated regions. that is how important the farms are. we worked very hard to try to thebetter drainage for

soils that are so important. food stamps are obviously an important part of our nation's safety net. it was very troubling when the congressman went out of his way to vote for an amendment in agriculture committee. i'm curious, would you have voted for the deal? >> less cuts from food stamps is obviously better. $20 million? that is too much. do we need a farm bill? yes. it should continue to be part of the discussion going forward. >> i think is reasonable to

consider them separately. we have to make sure that we respect their role in the safety net. had to make sure our family farms are represented. we need to fight for our family farms. >> and shaking my head. sometimes when you debate congresswoman hayworth, it is like she is debating her own record. you realize that she voted for a plan when she was in congress that had $140 billion of cuts in food stamps and not 20. seven times greater than what she is now complaining about it when she said she worked for the farmers, she didn't bother to get on the agriculture committee. i did. it is the best farm bill that has been written for the hudson valley. we got a farm bill that had very few foodstamp cuts.

we made the cut so clever that the governor was able to work with us. there are no foodstamp cuts in new york. what the congresswoman gibby was a bunch of rhetoric. i'm shocked that you brought up hurricane irene. she said we cannot help until we cut the budget somewhere else. -- compared it to a family cutting vacation. it was insensitive and wrong. >> i will give you an opportunity, but i want to be clear here when the debate was going on, you did say that you thought that large subsidies --uld be cut, but in the end >> we did both. >> some democrats here in new york were so upset about it. did in the end of vote yes.

there were cuts less than originally planned you'd they were considerable. >> let's focus on that. it was dramatically less just as i predict it. we knew working with the senate and the white house we would reduce them. we treat them in a way that made it possible for the governor of new york and very little expense to eliminate them. we did cut big corporate subsidies by tens of billions of dollars to end of the cash payments that for so long was such a wasteful program. this saves tens of billions of dollars for the taxpayers. it is also the best farm bill that has ever been written. we got it done. there are many times when i disagreed with my own party and president if it was right for you yet i think that is my job. i'm very proud of the farm bill that we got done. that is a very big difference to did congresswoman hayworth and helped the big inks. -- big banks.

>> if you want to respond directly to hurricane irene. >> $11.5 billion in relief came back because of my efforts. i was the first to call for our devastated counties to be on the president's disaster list. he did that. we succeeded in that. they showed me the fields. i took that immediately to washington. i was there the night of the storm.- a i major we fought to get that relief and reconstruction that our farmers needed. that is a fact.

that is the actual record created on taking credit for work that i did. you do it consistently. >> on this point -- >> very briefly because i would like to move on. anti-relief package i was asked was $6.5 billion and it was an offer new york. they waited 75 days. remember they were bickering and fighting. it is one of the first things we got done. there is a record and the facts speak for themselves. >> we will get back to it i'm sure. next. about controversial drilling. i know you oppose hydro fracking. what do you propose to make energy more affordable?

>> congresswoman supports fracking in the hudson valley. i think that is a terrible idea. that is what opening up that are land would mean. she doesn't support disclosure of the chemicals being pumped into the ground. my goodness. if we are going to do it, let us at least know what toxic materials are being pumped into the ground. there is a frack act so we could follow the science. congresswoman opposes that cute she had a radical agenda. i think we could do a lot better. that is why i support a project in orange county she has been making fun of. technology developed right here in the hands of valley that would create hundreds of new jobs. do support the use of natural

gas. i have a plan to bring back manufacturing jobs to the hudson valley. i have a bill that would bring in good jobs and good manufacturing jobs back to the hudson valley. we could to get bennett of the low gas prices created by the natural gas boom cute i do not want fracking with our fragile water resources. that is crazy. i sure wouldn't do it on federal lands. i wouldn't do it until we knew what the sciences were. she has been one of the biggest recipients of contributions. >> i do want her to respond. >> that is stunning. no one is talking about fracking in the hudson valley. you have just spent a minute wasting people's time on something that has no relevance whatsoever. do we need to recover natural gas? we certainly do. for me talk about pollution and about disclosing what is in

fracking fluids, i'm all for disclosing. i think it is something that we should do you let me tell you what the congressman supports what he claims to be an environmentalist. this is an absolute disgrace. i think you have talked with them. they will tell you that the has brought at least $100,000 into the congressman's -- the screws will tell you that moreproject will pour dioxins and arsenic into the environment of orange county of -- ll pour multiples >> you mentioned transparency. regulations --

>> i stand with the communities in the hudson valley. i stand for accountability. whatever they need to know so that they could become double with what is being done in our communities obviously that is the direction we need to go in. we need to have representation there. when the talk about representation versus regulators , when a city didn't want natural gas, i stood with them against regulators did congressman maloney didn't even listen. >> do have a framework that you would like to see? i think it remains to be determined. i do feel that we have to have safe, sound, rational recovery of these resources not in the

hudson valley. no one is talking about that. we need standards that are fit for our community. >> there is some and talking about it, and it is congresswoman hayworth. she sports opening up the federal lands to drilling. this isn't some academic exercise. the fact is the project she is running down with great hundreds of good jobs. and.one supports fully -- and it someone to get a loan guarantee. the reason the cumbersome and doesn't like it is because there's a role for government to play. she didn't have an answer. the reason she doesn't have an answer is because she supports this tea party fantasy.

a radical and unnecessary attempt to destroy all sorts of health and safety regulations. it is one of these tea party bills that says every -- any regulation was still need a vote in congress to people like congresswoman hayworth who believes there's no room for government to keep you safe and keep your hair clean -- listen, if you think the tea party radicals -- >> i'm sorry peter we have got the red light going. we will move on. >> let's turn to another source endless conflict in washington. entitlements are a huge driver of spending. would you support changes to entitlements? would you support raising the entire mintage for future retirees? >> absolutely not. these are one of -- is one of the biggest differences. went aroundo, she

scaring us sing medicare would go broke in two years. we had to scrap it and turn into a voucher program. right now through smart reforms, the medicare trust fund has been extended for years and years and billion ind $800 medicare savings because the cost inflation that was in the program was coming down. i don't support the congresswoman's radical plans to privatize social security and turn it over to wall street and let them gamble was social security. these were two proposals that she would push it appears she wants to and medicare and turn wall street loose on social security. terrible ideas. >> you would support no changes? support funding social security and medicare to keep the promise that we have made to our seniors. >> what about those who haven't retired and are not close to retirement age? >> i think the programs are

working well and we should keep them. dealing reason they wouldn't is people who want to give huge tax cuts to multimillionaires. we have to give all these tax cuts to multimillionaires. they come after medicare. they try to sell you on it. they will turn it over to wall street and cap it and privatize it. we have to stop that. we made a good decision not to panic and keep the promises of those programs. the congresswoman would end that. >> the congressman is ending medicare as we know it. seniors are suffering from the effects right now. he's voted consistently to cut billions of dollars from medicare benefits. our seniors cannot afford that. i have. to rely on their medicare and if it's and i know that if we want to protect medicare, the most important thing we need to do is

take a fresh approach that puts that money that was taken out by obamacare. he wanted to forget about that. we will not privatize social security. we want to make sure that they are able to go to work. under the agenda at the --gressman's of sports supports, we will not see those people go to work. they're losing jobs all across the hudson valley. .eople are losing their jobs >> would you support raising the notrement age so they are collecting social security at 65? maybe they should collect at 66 or 70? >> you know what i would like to do? .eep social security as it is that is what works for people. here is what we need to do.

we need to put americans back to work. we need to make sure those folks have jobs. if they don't have jobs and that is the agenda that is supported, we have obamacare, a chilean dollar gifted insurance industry , energy prices that are -- trillion dollar gifted insurance company, energy prices that are rising. that is the security that people need. >> it seems like you guys have a lot to say to one another. dr. hayworth come if you would like to go ahead? voted 10 times to cut $716 billion from medicare. please explain that and why you would do something like that? biggest, bogus charge that has been out there.

i think we should put that $700 million back in medicare. it was taken out by the budget you supported twice. the congresswoman's plan is to destroy the traditional benefit of it. you're listening to someone who wants to cap your benefits. it would cost seniors thousands of dollars. you are dead wrong when you said we would run out of money. one of the reasons we ran out of money was because she wanted to toe a tax cut is multimillionaires like yourself and take it out on middle-class families. we stopped that. poses ahink a democrat threat, i do not know what to tell you. i do not support a changes to the medicare program. we have done it the right way. >> congressman, you are not listening to seniors. it is that simple.

they are losing access to their doctors and are paying more than they can afford because of the agenda that you support. the congressional budget office that works with you and the congress said that the affordable care act you support obama care take 700 $15 billion of the medicare. the matter what they try to distract you with, the facts of the matter is our seniors and byr parents are being harmed a vote you have taken repeatedly with nancy pelosi hit you are pelosi democrat. just admit it. ask her a question and she will have an opportunity to respond. to youtube, igoes invite anyone to go to youtube and type in privatized and

social security. they will see you at a town hall meeting saying you want to privatize it. you said you wanted to leave it alone. sometimes i feel it and debating you and your own record. why did you want to privatize social security? what you said i thought was interesting. he said people need to realize that we as a government are not going to take care of you. then even compared people on social security to sheep. do remember that. he said that we are free men and women. what did you mean by that? why do want to privatize social security? do you really think people are sheep? payingle have been social security and suffering under a terrible economy. they would like to know why you raise the energy prices it i talk with the seniors. the prices are out of control because you failed to rein in

regulators are you could point to an everett videos you want and slice and dice and whatever you want to do. i'm not going to privatize social security. i will not take anything away from medicare. i will put $760 billion back into medicare that you took out. >> i thought we could follow up .n the question >> for the cumbersome it to say we could slice and dice, we're talking about a video of you. .lease, go to youtube you will the congresswoman not just supporting it, but arguing fiercely for this radical lan p she was government shouldn't take care of anyone. >> we would like to move on it it has been brought up a number of times.

if you would like an opportunity to talk about it, she did say that you voted in favor of an increase in people did see that their energy bills did go up because of the decision as it has been referred to. that.esponse is to peel >> let me tell you something, that is flat wrong what you just said. let's be clear. i do not want anyone seeing confused. messages weof the found when we got in washington. they cook up this artificial price hike. they said not one word of it at the time. we checked. if you write a letter? did she gave a speech? if you do anything? no. it. not a -- nope. zip. nada.

the poughkeepsie journal said we have done excellent bipartisan work on this. we wrote petitions. stink.her this thing you have got to fix it. this she is talking about is here tea party fantasy. the tipsy journalist has said we have done -- the poughkeepsie journal has and we have done good work. they have agreed to reopen this in response to my registration it we will win this by working across the aisle here i can't believe she wants to talk about it. she has no record at all on this issue. >> dr. hayworth. >> you did say the rhetoric and fantasy is there. before, i took action this price hike ever could have happened.

that is something that i know you would rather forget about. what the reins act does is make federal regulators accountable. i know you support the president's agenda that raises our taxes and raises price. what it would do is simple common sense. it says if any federal regulator wants to impose a regulation that will cost more than $50 million they have to be accountable to the congress for an up or down vote. that makes sense. if that had passed, we would never have had to deal with this at all. congressman maloney voted no and that's why