and what they are doing needs to be stopped but in order to do that we have to do as much as we can with as many different components in syria and it goes back to some of the complications, it is all interconnected. it is as complicated a set of directions then we have dealt with for a long time. >> can you talk about specific items when the chiefs talked about the 21-day quarantine, and doesn't medical science ever factor into the fact that the majority of workers down there are not going to be into contact with the bola? -- with ebola? process, tell you that first and welcome of the men and women we have deployed over there are in larger numbers than any other group. the anticipated we would reach 4000.

secondly, they will be there longer than anyone else. health care workers come and go because it is such an intensie environment for them. they may give 430 or 60 days then leave the area. we are going to have our young men and women there for six months of time. not in direct contact with you paula -- ebola. they are not held their -- they are not all health care workers. we factor in science, physics is the science we factored in. -- this is not about small groups of people who are transient. there is protocols for that. there's also not about health care professionals in contact with ebola. this is a major military operation, and big things on a

global scale. we took a conservative approach, and we will assess in 45 days, but we will keep them safe. >> the other thing i would like to say about that, science does the tate that there is a 21-day monitoring -- science dictates dayt there is a 21- monitoring period. this was reviewed by health care professionals in all the services. >> were you concerned this would have a larger impact in the u.s. or it would drive other governors in states and whatnot -- >> i am not unaware of society. but i have one responsibility, and that is the security of this country, and that means the security of our men and women and their families. that is not disconnected from

the good of this country. cannot come at eight cannot be. i thought it would be a smart, prudent,is science-oriented decision based mainly on what the chairman just articulated, but also the reality what else is going on. the other thing i would say about this, ebola is one of those issues that everyone is paying attention to. there is disagreement across the board on every decision, every issue, and every part of that i decision makers. and at onel that, time i was in that political arena. i have never had a decision made by everyone where everyone thinks it is exactly right. you have to base it on what you think is the right thing for your people, and that is the decision and why we made it. >> one more question. very quickly, "the new york

was sharplyit critical. do you have reservations about the syria policy, and could you expand upon expanding the mission in akbar? quite a bit about the serious situation, but i would add to what i already said in answer your turn your question. first, baseline is this is a complicated issue. we are constantly assessing and reassessing and adapting to the realities of what is the best approach, how we can be most effective. that it responsibility of any are a, and because we significant element of this

issue, we owed the president and we owed the united nations security council our best thinking on this, and it has to be honest and direct. so i would just add that to what i have already said. >> there are three components to the mission. security the iraqi forces, including the passion eshmerga, and in the issue of the tribes and trying to find a way and and power or enable them. that is what we are now beginning to explore. you have a program in place where we are beginning to restore some offensive capability and mindset to the iraqi security forces. we need to think how to do that with the tribes. we need to make sure the iraqi security forces are not spread out in ways that prevent them from supporting each other. al assad is sitting out there

somewhat isolated, seventh division, ninth division, somewhat isolated, so we need to help the iraqi security forces to help them link these groups up, and that becomes a platform for reaching out to the tribes. then the national guard concept, which the iraqi aches a decision to pass a law will probably begin to implemented sometime in the new calendar year. those.d all three of right now we are focused on the iraqi security forces. >> happy halloween. secretary hagel answering questions about the newly announced policy, the 21-day you policy of military personnel coming in from west african countries.

today at the ideas form, secretary of state john kerry was asked why reported slur by an unidentified white house official about the alleged strains between the u.s. and israel. kerry's secretary t response. >> josh earnest came out with a comment about the u.s.-israel relationship, that it transcends individual leaders. jeffrey goldberg, my colleague -- --i heard the article >> what is the american long game that keeps ripping itself apart? me, as everybodyga knows from the investment i made last to come is find a way to make peace in the middle east. we still believe it is doable. strength.es kurds,

you have to be prepared, both sides have to be prepared to compromise in order to do it. i thinkhat i know, and all of you know this this early and intellectually -- viscerally and intellectually, and i have asked this question of the the greatt -- one of challenges for israel is obviously not to be a national state, it wants to be a jewish state. to be a jewish state, you clearly have to resolve the issue of two states. if you do not, then you are a unitary state and people have equal rights to vote and participate as citizens, is a asrael going to have palestinian prime minister? i do not think so, not going to happen. therefore, what is the solution here, how do you move forward, and what we are trained to do is evenhandedly and hopefully

israel'slly strengthen ability to be free of rockets, not strengthened, to make it free of rockets, to end this perpetual conflict in a way that provides for the complete security of israel, which has a right, totally, to be free of into its country, terrorists to be out of a tell with handcuffs, tranquilizer drugs, guns -- no country would tolerate that. >> do you think it is time for you or the president be a little bit more evocative in terms of defining what you think the deal would look like -- work, i think we need to quietly and effectively and we condemn anybody who uses light would such as was used in this article that does not reflect the president, does not reflect me, it is disgraceful, and iptable, damaging,

think neither president obama nor i -- i have never heard that me in the white house. i do not know who these anonymous people are, but they difficult,uch more and we are proud of what we have done to help israel through a very good difficult time. president obama is the person who committed to iron dome. he made it happen. president obama has consistently -- he was supportive of israel's right to defend itself in this recent more. at the same time, the president wants to try to nurse the parties together to resolve these differences. >> on that later in our schedule also on c-span.org. later in our schedule, our campaign 2014 debate coverage five days until election day. we start tonight with the illinois governor's debate, pat quinn facing bruce rauner.

acent polls showing the race dead heat. it :00 eastern. in new york, andrew cuomo tonight in a debate facing rob two independence. here is a look at some of the ads that the new york residents are seeing. five, two, three, four, seven, six, six -- >> 10, 9, 8, 7 -- --2, 1 these are the stakes. to be reelected a governor and and up in jail? >> can we trust ultraconservative rob astorino? when he ran for westchester county executive, he promised to

cut property taxes 20%. then he broke his word and vetoed a property tax cut. under as to reno, westchester has the highest property taxes not only in new york but in the nation. the highest property taxes in the nation. if you cannot trust him to manage property taxes in westchester, you could never trust him as governor. >> the governor is supposed to represent all the people, but andrew cuomo only represents elitist liberals in the city. cuomo does not care about you. that's why cuomo forced extreme gun control. cuomo banned popular rifles, magazines, and violated the privacy of law-abiding gun owners. andrew cuomo took constitutional freedoms away from you. take the governor's office away from him. >> trust is everything to me. that is why for all we have accomplished to fix state government, our job is not done until we have cleaned up the legislative corruption in

albany, so i am appointing a new independent commission, led by top law enforcement officials all across this great state, to investigate and prosecute wrongdoing. the politicians in albany will not like it, but i work for the people, and i won't stop fighting until we all have a government that we can trust. >> andrew cuomo is spending millions of our tax dollars on ads that are not true. guess what state ranks dead last in economic outlook. cuomo's new york. has the highest property taxes in the nation? cuomo's new york. cuomo's new york. andrew cuomo's policies have new york last into many had a glorious. historyork has a proud

against discrimination. astorino is the only county executive in the nation to refuses to comply. diehard resistance to civil rights laws that did not work for the south a half a century ago will not working now. he is wrong for new york. jeanneew hampshire, shaheen is looking for a second term. real clear politics says is a tossup. senator shaheen has a small lead in most polls. here are some of the ads running in that new hampshire race. >> that's one thing i'm definitely going to change. i'm definitely going to change. >> new hampshire, we have some of the highest energy costs in the nation.

>> $42 a month more out of your pocket. >> $12.47 per month extra. 83,000 is this is an homes in new hampshire. 50% more, and they have about 130,000 new hampshire customers. >> i'm definitely going to change. >> i have never voted to outsource jobs. >> your involvement of a company

you are on the board whose business practice includes shipping jobs overseas to minimize costs, outsourcing. >> i have never voted to outsource jobs. it's interesting when you look at that. [laughter] >> anyone who turns on the tv these days knows we face challenges to our way of life. radical islamic terrorists are threatening to cut the crust to our country. i want to secure the border, keep out the people who would do us harm, and restore america's leadership in the world. i'm scott brown, and i approve

this message because protecting the homeland is the first step to making america strong again. >> they don't call us the granite state for nothing. i never back down from a fight for the people of new hampshire. i do not work for the big oil companies. i work for you. helping businesses compete, allowing families to refinance due loans. getting the job done for new hampshire. i am jeanne shaheen. i didn't just moved here. i live here. campaignt of c-span's coverage, follow us on twitter, and like us on facebook. to get debate schedules, video clips of key moments, previews from our politics team, c-span is bringing you over 100 senate, house, and governor debates, and

you can share your reactions to what the candidates are saying. the battle for control of congress, state and touch and engage by following on this on twitter and liking us on facebook. now onto south carolina for debate between republican incumbent tim scott seeking a second term. he is in his first tour in -- first term. dementt open after jim resigned to run the heritage foundation. senator scott was picked to fill the seat. this is listed as solid republican. >> this program is made possible by aarp south carolina. the state newspaper, the greenville news, association

with the florence morning news, the sun news of myrtle beach, the herald of rock hill. tonight, candidates for u.s. senate. and now your moderator. >> good evening. welcome to tonight's debate for the unexpired u.s. senate term. we want to welcome our radio listeners. joining us, andrew shane of "the state" newspaper. the candidates are tim scott, the republican senator from charleston, joyce dickerson, the democrat from columbia, and jill bossi. each candidate will have 90 seconds to respond to our questions.

if necessary i will allow a 30-second rebuttal. we drew names with the candidates arrived for the order. >> good evening. thank you for hosting tonight's debate. i am grateful the people of south carolina afforded me the opportunity to serve them from county council to the statehouse, and now the united states senate. it is one of the greatest honors of my life. i'm here tonight because life has not always been easy. i have learned important lessons and met remarkable people and have benefited from the strength and blessings of the great state of south carolina. our nation faces many challenges today. i prefer to see them as opportunities because i believe the best is yet to come. my commitment to you is simple. every single day, i will work very hard to afford all south

carolinians opportunities to succeed. i focus on education and jobs. i believe we will have the tools necessary to succeed. god bless you. >> thank you and good evening. my name is jill bossi. i am not a democrat, i am not a republican, i am an american. e pluribus unum, out of many one. we need to take control of our government from career politicians like my opponents to -- who take their orders from special interests and big money. tonight you have the opportunity to interview all three candidates and determine who is the best candidate for the role of u.s. senator. i hope to demonstrate that i am not bound by party, money, or by ideology. i am a public servant, and i hope to demonstrate my ideas of what is broken in america. i want a better america for our future, which includes a strong

economy, strong military, term limits, campaign finance reform, and tax reform. i'm asking for your vote, and i hope tonight you will make a decision on the person and not the party. thank you. >> good afternoon. thank you for having us. we are so grateful. i am running for the united states senate because i believe that this is a humbling opportunity for me to present to the people of south carolina a new idea, a new person who will always be there for them, who will stand for them, who will want to serve them in every way they possibly can. i am focused on our seniors, i am focused on our veterans, and i am focused on women's issues. those are the three main issues i will be focusing on tonight. i believe this is the greatest opportunity for me to represent the people of this state and the nation. i am here tonight to ask for the people of south carolina for your vote and for your support on november 4.

thank you. >> let me start with you, senator scott. you got a free pass to the senate. you didn't have to run the state and now you are running statewide for the first time. why should you have the benefit of incumbency? >> i don't think the benefit of incumbency is what it used to be. i have spent monday through thursday in washington. i come back home every weekend to go to my own church, hanging with my grandfather, take my mom to lunch because these are the reasons why i serve. i look at my nephew and say to myself i can prepare a future for him. that is why we came up with the opportunity agenda that focuses on education, skills in the workplace, and focuses on allowing people to earn while they learn.

people that like washington are very few. if it wasn't for relatives are not sure we would be popular at all. the truth of the matter is incumbency has major negatives. i look forward to not running on the fact that i am in office, but running on the fact that i love south carolina. i have benefited from being a south carolinian. and standing strong with me, and forcing me to look in the mirror and take responsibility. i am running because it is an opportunity to continue to serve from my days on county counsel, being elected twice to congress, and now having an opportunity to ask you for your vote to the united states senate. >> let me ask a slightly different version of what is essentially the same question to the two of you.

senator scott has the somewhat tenuous hold on incumbency. but he does have washington experience that you don't. why should south carolina voters give that up? >> i think what we have to understand is that a lot of the voters these days don't like what is going on in washington. they are asking for something to change. it doesn't matter whether they are on the right or left. i think the majority of americans are somewhere in the middle. what we have seen go on in washington with the gridlock, with hyperpartisanship, with the fighting, it is not short of untenable for us as citizens to accept that this is what we are paying our representatives to do. what we want our representatives to do is go to washington, d.c., sit down, negotiate, talk, find ways to fix what is broken with america. we've got a $17.6 trillion debt.

we've got an economy that is still struggling along. we need to restore the middle class. they have been eviscerated by the great recession. we have got to work for our vets. we have to work with our military. i have three of my four children served in the military or are serving in the military. we have got a lot of work to do. i have two sons who are still in active duty and could be called up at any time. there is a lot of work that needs to be done. incumbency is too much on how long they have been there. i am a big supporter of term limits and campaign finance reform. that is why i am here. >> same question. >> i am here because i believe in the people of south carolina. i believe it is time for a change and people are looking for a person that will have their interest. i am here because people have asked me as i have traveled all

over this state, 46 counties in this state, i have listened to the people, i have heard them talk around their kitchen tables, saying how they are having a hard time making ends meet. i'm hearing people say they are kicked off their insurance. i am hearing people all over this county talk about what they need and how washington is broke and how we need to fix it. they are looking for new people with new ideas, to go there, to help them be their voice, someone who will listen to them and take their interests at heart. this is why i am here. this is a greatest opportunity to go to washington. i think tim scott is a great person, but it is time for a change. it is a challenge i look forward to, and i'm happy to be here tonight because i believe that i will be the best choice to be the voice of the people that the state of south carolina in

washington, d.c., and that is what i'm here to make sure their interests are being served. i thank you for the question. >> i've heard each of you allude to the notion that washington is broken. a lot of americans have that perception. what i have not heard how you would approach fixing it or correcting it, changing that perception that a lot of americans have. could you address that? that this thing doesn't work terribly well and you are running for an office that may not be held in particular high regard? >> thank you. yes, one of the reasons why i am running as a member of the american party of south carolina is that like many americans i felt disenfranchised. i felt like both parties have left me. i was almost ready to go on the the towel.in i found that term limits

addressed my desire to see things change. as i looked into that more i came across the american party and the centrist project. if you think about it, if there are anywhere between 3 to 7 independents in the senate, the u.s. senate is the only body still elected by voters directly. if a majority is denied to both democrats and republicans and there are enough independents that can caucus separate from the democrats and republicans, they can begin to create a dialogue that will move us toward what can only be compromises, negotiation, and discussions so we can start to fix the problem and come up with solutions instead of just fighting and kicking the can down the road. i have four grandchildren. i don't want to leave them worse off than i am. i want to make sure that we do for posterity what our parents and grandparents did for us. therefore, i think that part of

-- that is part of the reason why we should change. they should all go home and we should start over. it could not be any worse than it is. >> i'm looking at the fact that we used to have between democrats and republicans, there was a good opportunity for dialogue. i remember in 2009 when the tea >> the democrats and the no longer sit down together.

i believe some of the tea party people that there have a better opportunity to sit down and have a great dialogue with them between the democrats and republicans, i don't believe that at my age so that i am saying that i will hope to open the door so that many other people could come through and have the greatest opportunity that i am having. the state of caroline and this nation has offered me this opportunity and i believe they want me to goso that i could give a woman's perspective which at this point we do not have, so i'm looking to represent this state and this nation and do it from the perspective of a woman, and i believe i am a very strong woman to do it. >> washington is broken, what we do is work to you the people, it's not about republicans is not about democrats is not about about putting t's americans first. the $17.6 ok at

trillion debt. see a obama hat we care. will create more pressureon those people and they are paying the highest corporate tax rate in the world, washington is broken. would i offer is common sense from north carolina. that's one of the reasons why every weekend i come home and spend time talking to voters, listening to voters, i did a listening tour so i could understand the issues that impact folks today.

i went through and did many jobs i did a job store, i worked on public buses and i have also waited tables, and i took took the time to appreciate what people are doing today, so i can take their best ideas, my best ideas today and not mine. i want to fix a broken system. >> how should the united states itself in world affairs? should be be a police officer that conducts order or have a more hands-off approach? >> knowing the situation that we are dealing today with isi el and knowing that our borders need to be protected at all time i believe it is important we have hands on with the national, but i'm very that rtable with the fact

we should have a contribution and we should have a hands-on nation so that we can have the greatest dialogue between these countries where we can all work together so that we can all in our perspective nation, so i believe that we should have a hands on approach. >> what we have seen and what we have need to see from america is americans first. we should evolve ourselves in the includes long as it our national interest. when we look around the world only super is the country onon earth withdraws itself there is absolute disaster. we should stand strong and use to help the world by order and structure and we do that by looking at our first, i believe psalm

26, i believe our enemies fear us and we should not spend money we do not have. and doing things inconsistent to our best interest. if we are going to be consistent in helping the world have ess we are going to to focus on our national interest and how do we impact the world for our best interest. how do we protect our allies three how do we make sure our enemies respect us. frankly what we have seen so from behind, red lines -- me thank you, obviously from this is personal.

i want to make sure that we are using diplomacy first before we other alk about using any kinds of means, obviously america is the greatest nation on the face of the earth and i agree with america first. take a elieve we need to new look, i think here with the radical islamic terrorists we have to do the same kind of and begin to require that it minimised and we have

to ask all the country that are in that area that most impacted by these issues to stand up and take their rightful place in it be refront, whether iraq, iran, turkey, syria and take care of their problems that are affecting the rest of the world. we must all ways be their allies and always protect them what comes but at the same time i want to make sure that we are following a part of diplomacy and we are using our economic might now we become more energy dependent we will be able to do so. how will you tackle isil at this moment? >> all of us have relatives in the military and it is very important to see three kevin ted america's that the future of our country. my other brother is a colonel in the air force, what i look at isis we

it's our responsibility to coordinate a correlation to protect folks in the middle east tour in most danger. what we have done well is our airstrikes and the collaboration and other our tries coming to assistance and seeing isis as a global threat. continue to do is make sure that the boots that are on the ground lived in the middle east. it is important to make sure that our middle east partners are leading the way, we can provide the air cover, we do that very well. we can provide intelligence. that has been fairly effective but what we cannot do is what

we have seen done is the administration got in the game very late and allowed isis to grow very stronger when we could have stopped earlier on. >> as i said before and i'll agree what i do senator scott said. i applaud his brother service but as father's service a mother and the mother of someone who serves in the air national guard i want to make sure that i'm not sending my home or anyone who -- or anyone else's son in harm's way. -- to use our diplomatic

might and our airstrikes strategically and we need to use our strategy and our technology to help to format that strategy within that region to help them battle it again, i go back to the idea of the containment and i feel we to work very carefully with countries in that area and i think we're starting to see that, the way that turkey is beginning to stand up and take role in the area. i again i think we need to assist that that happens but i to be a lot of work needs done diplomatically before providing strategic air strikes. i think that it is a little too little and little too late but we need to keep a focus on it and we cannot let it go because we cannot let that kind of evil stand. do agree with both, i am the wife of veteran and i have four brothers who served in the i have one nephew, and i am very concerned about the situation in the middle

east and i realise that the middle east is our strongest ally but those nations need to take a little bit more responsibility for their have been over there a long time, almost 14 years. my sons and my brothers have been there and it's time for our troops to come home and i think the airstrikes are the best way to resolve this issue at this time. i refuse to put more troops on the ground in those countries because we are putting our troops in harm's way. our borders need to be protected and the only way we can do that is we can continue to have a very strong military presence in the world, yes we are as superpower and yes we are looked at was one of the leaders in the world therefore to continue that going,

sharing that we are a very strong nation, and yes i do support my president because he doing the job and doing can to make sure our voters are protected. the privilege of having the support that president obama has. >> i wanted move on to our economy. whatever it else it may be it is about the economy, and it is all about the economy. what are your priorities and how are you going to achieve them? >> aristotle said " of the most perfect political communities where the middle class has the control and outnumbers the

other two" and i believe that is a very accurate statement. middle class has been administrated and they are the most important part of our economy. they are reassuring initiatives that are going on right now in corporate america that can bring good jobs back here that will create middle-class jobs good pay ld provide and benefits to those people who are qualified and have the training necessary. obviously we have to have a lot better education system is not only through pre-k through to 12 but throughout post secondary education and training people to take those jobs. at the moment we have 4 million jobs that go unfilled, so we have a lot of opportunity to and innovate and america and to look on a global scale and make sure we are doing what is important not only for america but to create the

created that need to be in the business community that will address our health care issues and our economic issues and i believe our immigration issues. i believe a sound economic policy can bring as out of what we are in. >> my economic priorities are to focus on the middle class. i have been going all around the state as i said earlier sitting down tables, talking to the people who are suffering, talking to people have lost and speaking to students who have high college loan debts and this to me is so important. they're worried about how they to pay their college loans.

we've given so many tax credits to people to take those jobs, if the middle-class declines, the united states in my opinion is it on the decline because the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. i believe this country is going to have a great downfall because the middle class is the backbone of america. when you remove that status you're going to have problems. look away through education, which is one of the main things, so we can retrain workers to go into the workforce, to me that is the most important thing. >> senator scott, economic priority? >> our economy needs two things to going to prosper, we need certainty in the workplace and we need predictability. business people hire people

when they know that. i was the ceo of my own comely further 32 years and if i had i rtainty predictability hired more people and invested more in equipment and brought back into the economy. what the government can do is a couple of things, one, look at taxes and regulations, we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world, we have seen burger king and other companies looking to move their businesses to other countries. regulations add pressure to businesses and if we want to see a robust economy we have to and with certainty predictability, reduce taxes to become more competitive.

i would also say that my opportunity agenda is to focus on education and skills in the workplace and providing people skills to do so. in south carolina we have done it very well. south carolina is a great place to do business because our regulations are our taxes. >> i hear this time all the time, and as i travel around the state i've been hearing people say, i do not want that obama care but what we need to understand is that deal is not obama care. it is affordable health care we need to make sure that that is the messagewe need to get across.

>> i want to talk about the issue of taxes, one of the problems we have with our tax code because it is so highly complex allows the companies to look at, we have apple moving over to the ireland, we have burger king moving over to canada, what we have to do is simplify our tax system, i agree we have to bring taxes down not only further corporations but the individuals as well. we need to get affair, flat tax and allows businesses to generate a lot a lot more nd business. >> helping the middle class? about the minimum wage? it is 7 1/4 the federal wage, what would you do to change that and contract the wealth gap between the wealthy and the less so?

>> that is a very personal thing with me, as i stated earlier and i heard, we have to realise our senator is the elected senator and not the elected senator and when i heard him say earlier that he around to various places, i ondered if he asked wondered if he asked whether or not $7.25 was a good wage for them? the middle class are declining because people have to work two or three jobs 20 hours a week just to make a balance wage silicon food on the table and educate their kids and take care of their families. we are living in a crisis situation when a person leaves jobs, their whole lively goes down the tube.

we don't have this that is to going to t that is lose jobs, raising minimal you to re going to cause we need to consider to raise minimum wage so our people can have a decent lifestyle. >> senator, how about those folks who work with? >> when i talk to the folks i those waiting on tables and riding the bus, the one common denominator that was glaringly obvious was that the educational achievement has made a impact on your lifetime earnings. was a kid in freshman's about to drop out, what i many people hat so

are begging and hungry to improve their ways of education. one way is to focus on the four-year college. giving people real work skills so they can go right into the workplace. i visited a company's south carolina that are doing this so well they have a chance to earn and learn at the same time. what i suggest is that we do is make sure we focus on poverty, if we can eradicate poverty, the fastest way to do so is by increasing the educational achievement and this will actually help us have the same challenges on the top end that we are talking about today on the minimum wage. we have had great success stories, so the wages are going up by $2.50 an hour. that is very important

for us to have. >> one of the things that jesus said was that we will always have the call with us, and to see h i'd like poverty eradicated but the reality is we will always have it with us and we have to work towards supporting those people. the minimum wage has not been made since 2009 and the economy has faltered and stumbled and it is an important think we need to reassess and evaluate but at the same time i believed by bringing jobs back we will be able to create charts that the middle-class workers that are trained and that our skilled can take. we need to provide jobs for younger people and for people to supplement their income. a minimum wage is not a living wage and so we need to recognise that.

i also believe that at the same time as we look at the educational opportunities it is important that we recognise it is not just hyperbole, is not just what we talk about it is about what we do. we have to be able to support our education from pre-k to to support and able our collegestudents and look at training programs for when they come out of college and create trade and technical schools, all of those things are going to be important to help us adjust the minimum wage here in the us. >> senator scott you voted against the immigration report that the south carolina aquaculture is considered vital for the economy so what have the do you immigration issue?

>> the reality of immigration is an important issue for the workforce should find a way that we have the workers that we need to make sure that we continue to build the best economy in the world. first about the immigration process, i think that my sister-in-law who came from korea and spent about 10 years getting her citizenship, she learnt about this country, she focused on the success and the opportunities and she seized upon it. that s to create a system we reward folks on the way that they came here is inconsistent, the ways that we start the process on immigration reform starts with our borders. by securing our borders and in doing so we need three basic parts, we need more human capital to we need physical obstructions to stop them from coming across and number three we must make sure that we have

technology used 24 seven because borders are not immigration issue today it is a national security issue. if we found terrorist coming across our borders we would find ourselves in a serious condition. i believe that after we secured our border we could absolutely increase the number of visas, whether those are starting jobs or stemmed freezes in order to make sure we get the wall force that we need in the future. >> i think the first thing of the sea we have to secure our borders and we have a big i think the first thing of the sea we have to secure our borders and we have a big problem, we have estimated over 11 million illegal immigrants in the country and that's not something we can deal with to address we have it long-term, we have to redo legislation and

make sure that the requirements that we have our sound and strong so that the people should stay here, are able to work towards legal citizenship or legal alien status, but i think it is important to note that not only has senator scott voted against immigration, he is voted against budget and infrastructure and equal pay and military justice, there is the only things he is voted against and very little he is voted for. that is part of the problem we are facing, we have to start working on the solution and whatever that solution is there are very smart and intelligent sit down at can together that, come together and devise a good solution and policy from us that will secure our borders and won't cost billions and billions of more and have that money wasted, and at the same time have that pathway to citizenship that semi-people strive to have. again i go back to building up middle class up again, we can potentially create global

jobs and keep people at home where they're s coming here. >> i do believe that we do to protect l have our borders, that is the one thing we are going to agree on tonight but senator scott i would have probably had a better economy if he knew the word yes on some of these is voted cause he against -- he did not show up for the vote when we were talking about refinancing student loans and so i know this is not a border issue but i know when we talk about securing our borders we have got to make sure that the immigration persons are here, that they go through the process and they go through the process and they get legalised through that process and so that they can become a citizen in the united is costing use it american jobs.

because they taking jobs away from america i think it is get rtant that they need to this process straight and they do the process that all and all the citizens, goes through the process and get legalised but i do believe that if we had a better working congress, with people who are try and together to resolve problems, then we would have a more secure and our immigration problem will be taking carroll's. -- taken care of. women on the o stage, what is your stance on reproductive rights and pay for equal work?

>> thank you, this is one of those hot issues that polished petitions like to throw around. quite honestly the issue of productive right has already been addressed in america and i wish that we would stop pushing that so hard and start dealing with the problems that we do have. we talk so much about reproductive rights and do not take care of our children, how many children do we have that a hungry and homelessand lacking the basic needs that they have. we have to start dealing with issues that we have and stop what people are doing.

i am a woman and i stand for a woman's right to choose, i know that my god has given me the right to choose whether or not to believe in him and therefore i believe he is give me the right to choose on anything i choose with my life and how i conduct my life so i have to believe that if the creator of the universe has given me that choice, it is give me the choice on reproductive rights. when it comes to equal pay very personal ing to me, i started out as a single parent and i started out on a minimum wage job and i worked hard all my life to get my college education and take on new and harder jobs but i knew every single job that there was a man that was earning more than i was. we have to correct that. it's not an easy answer but we have to start working on it. >> that is very close to my heart and i believe i started when i said god gave us the joys from day one, he gave us a choice when you put all those trees in the garden and of all of the treaty can eat from except one so from day one god gave us a choice. i believe that a woman should have a right to choose, i have

five ious problem when the justices in favour which was against women's right to choose think it's an insult to charge women more than insurance because they are a woman. women and girls have the same same to have the opportunity as men. i support choice and i think women should have the right to choose and it should be between her god and her doctor. hispanics it ing, is cheaper and for black

african american is lower and white americans is different. >> i'm certainly pro-life. i do support the decision by the supreme court. i had the opportunity to bring a young lady who went from being a secretary to hewlett-packard to becoming the ceo of hp and i will tell you what she has taught me about the issue of equal pay. since 1962 and 1963 has been illegal to discriminate but it hasn't stopped it. her research has led to very important conclusion that the seniority system that we know today actually benefits men and discriminates to some extent women.

when a woman decides to leave the workforce to have a family what happens when she comes back into the workforce because of the seniority system and the paid more they get so how hard she works or how of l she performs the fact the matter is that she does not catch up from where she was. eliminated the seniority system, and actually decided to they did e on how well their jobs that woman would fare much better in the workforce. one of the silver she helped me understand. i am very thankful to her. >> i have two hands up.

>> thank you, as a woman, i'm very glad that senator scott has finally decided to investigate the issue that women deal with but i will be very honest in terms of saying that it is not just the fact that women go out to raise their children, that kind of equal pay discrimination happens. i and the breadwinner for my family. i never stayed at home for my family that was something my husband did, and i was discriminated against job after job and after job. to meant moving my position increase my salary. women don't have to leave their jobs to have families. >> i would like to concur with what she said. today disturbs me when i see a who's having a baby who works are up to the days she

has a baby and after the baby she is back on the job in a matter of days so for someone to use an excuse that people have to leave the workforce will we do more work than we are dead than the average man because we are almost there are time on , we spend more our jobs so i would have a serious problem that women of the workforce, we do not put in the time, we do. >> let's turn to a different subject is the balance between federal and state responsibilities. i have in ic thing expanding the charleston harbour, which i understand is going to be half $1 billion. 40% federal and 60% state? are you for it' this a fair breakdown? do to re you willing to achieve that?

>> i think this is a wonderful idea and i think expanding our shores has been greatest thing from south carolina. the fact that we have great tourism and our borders are so am all in favour of that expansion because i know it's going to bring more revenue into our state and it's going to stimulate our economy to the point that will have more jobs coming in so i believe that this is a very good move and i support at 100%, and as i stated i do think that this is a great thing and i will not be in favour of anyone drilling on our beautiful shores, i think those shores need to be protected. i'm all in favour from protecting our shores.

is upport it and i think it a great idea. >> i'm not sure if we would agree with the 6040 split but the fact of the matter as it is is plit but the good news the statehouse put some money aside. the bill that i just voted for has just been passed. giving a $40 million. the good thing from my being in ve, the port my backyard is a very important part of the economic factor. one of the things that we celebrated the success of the englund railed that provides more ways to get the goods from

upstate to the port which is very important for us and continues to be successful when i was on county council we worked very hard to bring on one of think the resort was major asset for us was support. america's port is in south carolina, there is something like the harbour maintenance to fund the used charlton port and will allow us competition brant and see us get our goal of doubling at export from this country. >> the charleston harbour project is absolutely essential to the state of south carolina in favour of it, the 60% 40% split is that what it

have to live at we with. let's get it down because the longer we hold off on it the higher the costco and i believe the cost is gone high while we have been talking about it. what's also important is looking at other infrastructure projects and making sure, i have travelled all over the state and our highways link. my brains have been rattled by how many potholes we have on 77, 95, 26 and 20. we have to put more money in infrastructure everywhere. those are all essential, we way to do that, not only will help us as citizens but it will help us put people back to work a good middle class paying jobs and i

think that is important so i'm in big supporter of the harbour, i believe the split is an equitable one and it is a return on investment. once that investment is done the return on that through lines and shipping lines through trade that comes in are all going to pay off handsomely for the state. >> the ala is waning and i'm response artificial to to this question. one of the things on a lot of folks minds is medicare, had we had we sustain it? children, for your grandchildren? >> thank you, one of the first ways that we could help sustain medicare for the future is to take a look back at obama care where we saw $716 billion in order from medicare to encourage people to buy insurance, i don't think our be subsidising

to help the cost of young americans. at medicare the number of fraud and abuse is around 9%, the average in corporate america is close to 2% and 1% so we if we were to into medicare and reduce fraud and abuse we would find a path. >> thank you. far as health care is concerned we need to protect medicare, my two parents were depended medicare but medicare is a good program and the sound programme and we need to keep it going but i think we need to the holistic issue in america.

we need to look at our veterans we haven't spoken about them and 87 not to be homeless and not to be hungry and have the health care that they deserve. we need to bring the insurance company to the table and the experts to the table and come up with a plan that provides a kind of insurance all of america needs. >> i have been hearing a lot about medicare and one of the things i'm hearing is a medicare, this f is something that is on my mind so i believe that we have got to really make sure that we protect our seniors, protect their investment and some people call that entitlement i made this mistake, but i got my pay n i cheque, we saw that they deducted that cost from our paycheque so how can you say

that that is -- you are into and you deserve it and i support medicare and make sure we protect it because it is vital to all citizens. >> this is the last question get about 20 seconds. if elected you only get a two-year term. win or lose what have you learnt about the american political process that you would address differently next time? >> tim scott has raised $6.438 million and that is 16% from the state of carolina and all the rest from outside, our country is being bought and paid for, we have to pay for it. i would implement term limits. one dollar for every registered voter. my lesson is that, when you are in office you will notice it takes a considerable amount of time to get some of this project is taking care of.

know about i do campaign refund -- greatest tion is the nation on earth, we are exceptional and if we do what will e supposed to do we see the most amazing things happen. working together creates major opportunities for success. i've worked with my liberal and my conservative friends and one thing we all do is we put america first. >> thank you for being with us. keep tabs on what is happening in the election process and don't forget to vote next tuesday, good night.

>> each candidate will have one minute opening statement each candidate will have the opportunity for one minute closing statement at the end of questions have solicited, members of aarp.

i will ask the questions on of all three partners. each candidate will have a 32nd rebuttal if they feel they have to need it, they will have equal opportunity to respond to let's meet n, now our candidate, gordon howie, former united state senator larry pressler. thank you for participating in our debate tonight. mr ryan and your debate was drawn first.

>> in over the past 18 months i've travelled to every town in south dakota listening and learning to the people of our state hoping to earn the privilege to represent them in the united states senate, i got into the state like many i believe i talk to that washington has been corrupted take back our government and put it back on our side again. harry reid mitch mcconnell have given us probably the most dysfunctional government in a generation and they need to step aside. i will be voting for mr reid if i'm elected and i would like to might tonight to not he e for mitch mcconnell if is elected because i believe they have both failed this country greatly and it's time to find new leadership. coater ple of the deserve more and our people

have been anything but -- >> it is time. . >>south dakota needs a powerful senator and an in dependent i can bring back my seniority to the state senate, i've served three states in the senate and

i can bring my seniority back and that will be great power to the state of south dakota, also independents will play a big role in the senate and it appears there may be for independent state senators and they could basically work to elect new leadership in a closely divided senate, we could also insist have basic role on budgetary matters to balance the budget and passed procreation bells. i'm very eager to serve the united states senate and i can deal of power to north dakota. >> time. you now have one minute to show your thoughts with the coater. >> president obama said his policies are on the ballot. rick and i agree neither one of us will be voting for harry is a majority leader. we wanted to build our economy, reduce expenditure of best as we could and to keep our young kids in south dakota. washington is truly dysfunctioning it needs a real dose of south dakota's common sense and we need a lot less washington. there are two types of government here tonight.

one thinks that big is okay, i disagree you will hear my vision tonight, reducing and building the economy. we face a real crisis when it comes to safety and security. there is another ebola patient today in the united states. as a governor -- >> that is time. >> thank you and thank you virginian tonight, one thing south dakota's agree on, they're disappointed on the leadership of both the republican and democrat party in washington dc and all you have to do is turn on the television today and you see the partisan rancour visiting south dakota. commercials blast everywhere.

south dakota deserve something different, i believe most of the people we talked to say they want something different, more of the same doesn't take us in the right direction, we need a new representation and a new leadership and frankly that to kind of leadership needs talk about vision and purpose and freedom and absent that i believe, south dakota loses, it is time to south dakota to win and my conservative traditional values represent a win. >> names were drawn to determine the order after the first round of questions we will rotate who goes first. again these were all taken from south dakota and and this one is on eb five. is a federal program to development and properly administrate,, does

this program have merit? continueor be shut down? >> any federal program has the opportunity to be improved, this particular programme was a taught economic development, investment n in to people and projects and even turkey 5000 jobs and created but like any federal project it can be made better, as a united states senator real interest in improving, and if you take

these things one step at a time you learned from what your experiences are as a governor and you do your best to improve those projects and it is not just the immigration system in the united states, it is one project after another and one department after another that we have to go through. the federal government is so big it is about the 10th largest economy. this is something we have to bring back under control and every single project can be made better than what it is today. >> thank you sir, you need me to repeat the question? whittle about the eb five federal program, if properly this program does have merit, should it continue, be overhauled or shutdown? >> the issue is about the corruption that apparently occurred in south dakota, let me say that today there is an agent in the state, not to investigate this, but i do understand this is under investigation for the fbi, is campaigning for me.

he is in his late 70s and i'm so proud to have his people i've other brought in but i am very proud to have been endorsed by the leading corruption fighting the he praised my nd role but he went much further because i have a plan to eliminate the money system lobbyists in the system. lobbyists should not be in the money scam. they should not be able to give campaign contributions nor be able to give money so i think there is a great deal of corruption both at the state level and the federal levelin dedicated y and i'm to fighting that. >> thank you sir. >> well i said from the very beginning when this thing blew

up last year that i just didn't like the program, the policy of handing out green cards which a pathway to citizenship, to foreign millionaires and billionaires who can buy their way into the united states and then cut to of the immigration think that don't squares with my south dakota commonsense values, i don't think people appreciate because you have got the money you can cut to the front of the line so i would vote to repeal the program. that's not justmy reason but that is my major reason. it has led to a cultural corruption because frankly and i know mike likes to beat on the democrats, there has not been enough oversight on the program and if we have a little

bit more engagement in south not have more t questions about what went wrong and more answers. i'm hoping to the cause of it the next couple of weeks more get hese questions will answered but, cut in front of -- immigration line you because you have more money should not give you priority. should eb five continue or be shut down? >> south dakota's have not idea of whether it is a good program or a bad program because all they have heard it is bad. you reported on by skipping refusing to answer questions.

i believe that even when you have been willing to answer a question or two, you have given us false information and the people i'm talking to a south dakota frankly governor, do not trust you. i would implore you tonight to say that you testify under oath and answer all these questions for the sake of your state, your party, and this country. get this behind us and do it quickly so that the people of south dakota can begin to get on with the issues rather than to deal with the scandal that stinks every day. is it a good program? is it a bad program?. we have certainly seen the fostering of capitalism and that has got to stop. >> thank you, it is now time for rebuttals. >> the program was created in

1998 had bipartisan support. i believe senator jonathan has been in favour of the program as well, the plan behind it is to allow for economic development little canada did. bring economic development into areas. it is up for reauthorisation in 2015. >> mr pressler would you like to rebuttal? there we go. thank you very much. dispute whatould you can have a federal or state program, but we are talking about the death, the mysterious death of him, and all the matters around it.

supporting the program in the beginning. >> out of time. you have 30 seconds. >> i do not think a lot of people realized until he committed suicide that there was even a visa program where we were selling citizenship to people for half $1 million. i just, again, i will not get into this candelas -- the scandalous nature now. >> the fundamental issue has to do more with oversight than whether witt -- whether the program was bad. it seems a little disingenuous for use it -- to suggest you go

to washington to make things better. i think the whole thing smells and it is time to come clean with soft the coda. >> moving on to the second question. here is the question. it was about a year ago the federal government shut down. in the event congress should have to consider a government shut down again and you are eurosd, what will be bonds and efforts? >> i would oppose that. i would hope we can make the united states senate work much better. senate doesis the not really vote on anything anymore. --t is why i am running in as an independent in the new senate, which will we -- which we will have. there may well be for independence. i want south dakota to select me as independent.

for the first time, there will be a force to work with democrats and republicans. so we would finally start getting some votes going. now we have to give credit to bill clinton. i have been critical of premises -- president obama and also republicans. let's remember republican senators vote for higher deficits because they vote for corporate subsidies. -- the way we are building of the deficit. recently, i would have voted up an increase in the gas tax.

we are adding on to the deficit. and roads are not being repaired meanwhile. >> that is time. you get gonads. -- you get to go next. shutting down the federal government, for reasons that we did not get our way on a piece of legislation, or threaten to andult off the good faith credit of our government. i have not gotten any response from candidates in the race. too not think that is a way run a government or a railroad or a business. with thatw happen shutdown is that it ended up government $24 billion, which is what they were shutting the government down for

because of the food stamp program they wanted to cut. a real fight was going on. the fact of the matter is, we do not have a farm bill. when the winter atlas hit west river, rangers were left high and dry with a dead livestock to call,ency bureaucrats there at the beck producers, and no government and no farm bill to return to and it was a disaster. when they tried to do it again, extremists in the republican house of representatives tried to do it again and they were rebuffed by their own speaker. i will give john boehner credit for that. we can never do that and we should never do that. >> thank you. eventestion is, in the congress should have to consider a government shutdown and you are elected, what would be your response and effort? >> i was watching with great cruzest when senator ted

courageously took a position and the mitch mcconnell style leadership in the republican party sabotaged his efforts. the media and the republican and democrat leadership alike have demonized the fact that we andot put a lid on our debt our government spending. if we look back in history a short distance, we will discover that ronald reagan actually held his ground and the government shutdown on a number of occasions. bill clinton did the same thing. why have we come to a place in american history where we think holding government accountable and putting them on a diet is a bad thing? someone whobe stands with senator mitch mcconnell. i would not vote with him and i will not stand with them. i will be a friend to senators like ted cruz who suggests that

america is at a pivotal point in its history, and we simply have to become fiscally responsible peter noted to do that, we have to put a lid on our debt and we have to cap spending. sendnnot afford to somebody who voted for barack obama and his liberal agenda, or a governor who nearly doubled the state butter -- state budget, we need fiscal responsibility and my campaign has been very clear i will be a representative of that. less it is now your turn. the reason is because we get our work done on time. occasionally, we all have our battles.

a lot of this is because of the failed policies of barack obama. this is a case where people get fed up because the leadership is not there. he is not making the deal and not setting it up. he is not working with both sides. the house is passing a budget and the senate is not. harry reid has 1500 bills on his desk right now and he will not let them come up to vote. it is dysfunction and that has to stop. budgetone, we pass a every single year. you have to start off by passing a budget in the first place. respect the fact that last year, it is true we were behind the times. we do not have the egg bill. it would have saved a whole lot of people a lot of time and effort. this is washington, d.c. at its worst. the dysfunction has got to stop.

>> thank you. it is now time for rebuttals. you have 30 seconds. >> i have been a professor mostly since i left the senate. a state, we studied that. we need to close some of our obsolete, overseas world war ii basis. it would help us balance the budget so we would not get into government shutdown situations. number.a huge 34 world war ii obsolete military bases. put on the southern border, where they can secure our border. >> that his time. i apologize. it is your turn now. >> thank you. it was for that shutdown, before he was against it here when i asked all of the candidates to join me from appalachian never put the american people at risk, again, no one responded.

we have got too many extremists in washington polling both parties. leaders.ysfunctional i will not support harry reid. answered my yet question. they are the problem. >> you have 30 seconds. >> if you balance it by limiting spending, but in south dakota, the way the balanced budget has you just,ted is that as some people would call them, revenue enhancements. i was the only one to vote against it. because it continued. 10 million over the previous year, and a lead to $170 million deficit. to become fiscally responsible. >> a 32nd rebuttal. >> in a time like this when we have safety and security of the

utmost concern, we have our men and women overseas and we are in the obama campaign. dysfunction continues. >> thank you. we will move onto the next question. you will go first. this was sent to us regarding social security. i have worked the continues. >> thank you. we will move onto the next question. you will go first. this was sent to us regarding social security. i have worked the -- my entire life but as i get closer to the entire men, i fear i will have to work longer and longer before retirement can actually occur, even though i've done my part to repair. biggest fear is for my children and grandchildren. what will you do to protect social security so people in future generations can retire young enough to enjoy it?

>> part of my career was spent as a state director. i spent a lot of time with over talking about that issue and medicare. two programs brought to the that have given them financial security at their old age. not onlyke sure we protect social security, but i believe we should expand it. make $117,000 a year, you stop paying into social security. i am not talking -- i'm talking about making sure bill gates so we canaxes actually make social security more solvent. tom harkin from i was just out

last week. we cannot only protect social but wey going forward, can actually give people a little more each month by lifting the tax off the payroll i bet bill gates and warren buffett and millionaires think that is ok as well. you will get a strong vote. what will you do to protect social security? >> you only have to look back in history to find out. it was politicians who dipped into the social security trust fund and made it in solvent. .ou cannot solve that problem the crew are going to go and say we need to expand the government, continue to increase spending. you have to do it with fiscal responsibility and you do that

by first cutting government spending, reducing the level of debt, and stopping government growth. the way social security will be aotected is when we have robust economy. the environment in america that andonducive to job growth healthy, small businesses. democrats and republicans really do agree on some things. two great presidents agreed on how you stimulate the economy. i do i -- i do not hear it talked about anywhere else. they understood if you reduce taxes, you stimulate the economy, increase job growth, and protect small business and in the process, protect social security. raising taxes, expanding subsidies, and growing government, is the wrong way. ruin not only social security, the very security of our generations that are yet to come.

>> thank you. your turn. >> during the time i was governor and during the time i was in the legislature, i worked with the the lodge committee. the retirementke system even stronger than what it was when it first started and we succeeded. removing not by services from people currently receiving them. you make long-term, intelligent choices and you never quit managing. you work it through on a case-by-case basis and make all to makeons available intelligent decisions about building the trust fund and maintaining it. the one thing you do not do is to stop job creation and economic growth. i know some folks want to take the cap out of an amount of tax dollars businesses put in. i think that is wrong and those are the job creators.

if you're going to make social security stronger, you need more people paying into the system. you need more people employed and you need employers successful at adding dollars on napoleon by employee basis. make long-term changes. you do not hurt the individuals counting on the dollars right now. you protect those resources for those individuals that need it the most, the ones counting on it right now and in the near future. you protect those benefits. >> thank you. mr. pressler, is now your turn. detectll you do to social security? >> i have always been a guardian of social security. i am proud of my record a lot of attack ads are running against me saying i did not vote to support social security. those are totally false. it is the oldest and perhaps cheapest trick in politics is to say somebody voted against social security. one of them cited goes back to the 1970's, when i voted for the

mcgovern substitute. another one appears here it is hard to know from the advertisements what they're talking about. there was a tabling motion and i voted for a substitute. i have always been and are of social security. i asked the people of south these not believe all of attack advertisements. i'm the only candidate in the united states under attack by both the republicans and the democratic party because they are so afraid an independent might break up their monopoly. i think it is important for all the citizens of south dakota to know that i only have about 1% as much money as my opponents so i cannot answer those attack advertisements but they're totally false and put out by all of my opponents, especially the democratic and republican parties. they are 180 degrees lies, especially about social security. those votes were cast in such a way to move something forward for social security, either to help tom out when he was the

leader, or to help my colleague out when he was there. i ask you to be very careful. >> thank you. we will move to rebuttals if anyone feels they need it. >> i would only point out i think both senator pressler and are looking at reforming entitlement programs. they are not willing to quite give you the full story. i know the simpson bulls immission several years ago, think the senator was supportive of, is to push out the retirement age and cut the benefit to save the benefit for social security. i am not sure what mike's land is to save it. save it by taking the taxes up so you can get warren buffett involved and bring some money to the system. >> i believe america is at a pivotal point in american history. we are in a deep crisis and if we do not do something different, we will only propel

this nation farther in their own direction. career politicians place is in a mess and this will only exacerbate the problem. mess>> thank you. you only have 30 seconds. >> thank you. what he is proposing is a $100 billion tax increase on the american public. $100 million coming out of the economy you could use for job creation. putting more into paying social security taxes and the system. i disagree with $100 billion tax increase per year. >> all right. you two have 30 seconds. >> i support social security and leaving the retirement age where it is. to tie thee coalition to the price of food because the coalition would be higher. withe do not associate me

simpson bulls and these other plans. i have studied them and they have done a good job of raising issues about our best at. our deficit is our biggest problem, at the end of the day. we have got to adjust that. i have been talking about my own ideas and my own campaign positively. >> time. thank you. directed at leadership skills. a gridlock in washington, there have been obstacles securing funds for the lewis and clark water project and federal highway trust fund money for south dakota roads. other than blame the party, if you are elected, how will you contribute and compromise for the good and advancement of our state so that projects like these and others are funded? >> a great question. all you have to do is look in the rearview mirror to see how someone would approach the partisan rancor that we see creating a gridlock in our nation's capital.

early in the campaign, i issued an invitation to all of these candidates to sit down one-on-one, no moderator, no rules except each would take two minutes and have a civil conversation about meaningful and important issues. my friend and advocate -- and adversary took me up on that and we had a civil discussion that demonstrated our differences but brought us together. we realized we have some things on which we agree. that is a formula for success. ronald reagan was doing and when he was dealing with the o'neill, one of the most difficult speakers to embrace the planet. weelieve instead of saying need to find a republican or democrat solution, we need to find principled solution. that my friend is wrong on most things, one

thing i will say is he is genuinely wrong. and he was how it to you straight. i believe that is commendable and that is a good starting point. we have to talk straight about issues even when we have deep issues and find areas where we can move forward and not compromise principles. principle is a losing formula for america every time. >> your turn. washington,dlock in there have been obstacles securing funds for the lewis and clark water project and federal highway trust fund money for south dakota roads. rather than blame the other party, if you are elected, how will you contribute and compromise for the good and advancement of our state so that projects like these and others are funded? >> thank you. during the time i was governor, we pretty funded south dakota's share of the lewis and clark water project. basis it on a bipartisan

because we understood how critical clean water was to both republicans and democrats. thinks something i republicans and democrats can both agree on if you have appropriate leadership in washington dc it is when you do not have someone in the white house who is prepared to sit down and work through those that you run into problems like they're running in d.c. today. dysfunction will continue until we have true leadership there. policies there right now, they truly are on the ballot this year. they are failed policies. the example, the lewis and clark water project, is a great example of what happens when you do not have true leadership, that recognizes the opportunities of economic development. highway trust fund, there are folks out there right now taking a lot of money out of the ohio trust fund. if we leave the money in the trust fund for the projects we originally thought it would be for, bridges and highways, and if we get back to the point where we allow local units and government to realize those more efficiently without all of the

federal guidelines that go along with them, we would actually be able to complete more of those projects. the other part of this i think is important to talk about is the fact a lot of the physicians need to be made at the local level. i would rather see opportunities come back in when it comes to the highway funding. but then together and make them more in advance so they're not always way behind in getting the funding necessary. >> thank you. it is now your turn. you may begin. >> and specific answer to your question, i was the originals officer of the lewis and clark water pipeline. original sponsor of three other water pipelines that have been successfully completed in south dakota. i have worked across the aisle as an independent. i've also worked with the administration. it is said i am a personal friend of obama's. is correct and it does not mean i agree with him all the time, but i'm capable of walking into his office and talking to him about south dakota projects.

south dakota needs a senator not going there to impeach him but to work with him because he will more years. two i do not agree with him on hardly anything, but that does not mean he will not be the president of united states for two more years. but we need help in south dakota and various other departments and a united center senator has to go to the agencies and work .ith them thelso have to protect waters of training. we do not have much portable drinking water in south dakota. most of it is deluded because of a variety of things in our state. water pipelines for human beings to have drinking water. i have been the main sponsor of all of those pipelines that now exist. and i would continue to do so. the water in the missouri river is palpable. we need to do that in the future. toould bring great power

south dakota in these projects. >> thank you. it is now your turn. >> mike brown supports paul ryan's budget. i will start there. there is no money left over if the republican blueprint gets passed in the house and over to the senate. that ryan budget would literally $6 trillion in taxes for the wealthiest of the wealthy. we are talking average millionaires getting a $200 tax cut and big corporations having and theyes lowered will pay for it at the expense of programs that affect the middle-class. we are talking about cutting head start, cutting pell grant programs. we are talking about going after medicare and medicaid. voucherizing medicare and turning it into a coupon program so you can take your check, if this goes through, and cash it. frankly, to get your health insurance. i just do not think that is the

direction we need to go. when you look at what we have been in the last 18 or 20 years, where big money is actually calling the shots in washington and anybody that seems to be alyssa get there is usually a long that road paved with political contributions and lobbyist knocking on the door once they are sworn in -- if mike wants to talk about a $100 billion tax increase, you tell me anybody out there making 100 you're worried about bill gates getting a tax increase to shore up social security. >> thank you. let's move right into rebuttals. 30 seconds. >> the project you are referring to is significant. what we need to find in washington dc is effective leadership. effective leadership sets priorities. we are not setting priorities in washington dc. there is no motivation for these senators to get sitting down at the table together.

what will motivate them to set priorities as when they put a lid on spending and debt. so they are compelled to sit down at a table and make hard choices we have to make to move the country in the right direction. >> thank you. your turn. >> thank you. i admire mr. ryan for doing his best to create a budget, but i never said i have supported it. talking about the lewis and clark pipeline, it is an example of one people do not work side-by-side to get a job done that is good for everybody. i will work with both sides of the aisle to make sure we get the best possible quality in our water systems in south dakota. i believe in them. >> thank you. you have 30 seconds. >> i should have also said i am andiend of mitt romney also i cohosted a fundraiser for him. every republican in the state has received a letter saying, he is a personal friend of obama. that does not mean i support him all the time.

all democrats have received a letter saying, you are a friend of mitt romney. that is why i'm running. you can be friends with oh size and work with both sides. i am an independent. i do not vote a straight ticket. i vote my conscience and what i believe in. the business of categorizing --eone >> out of time. this might be our last question. i guess you get 30 seconds. go ahead. >> thank you. i believe there needs to be a partnership between the federal state and the local units of government. one you have got certain people that all they want to do is bash government and yet they want to go as an elected official in the government to try to make things different, i do not buy it. people who continue to go after the federal government on handout, and yet have a and want the money so they can put in whatever they think it is

the best interest, it does not make a lot of sense to me. >> that is the time. .ur final question here is the question. two years ago, following the general election, it looks like congress would finally tackle immigration reform. here we are today, still without a comprehensive immigrant policy in the united states. what is your plan for comprehensive immigrant legislation? >> thank you. it begins with securing our borders. nothing happens until we secure our borders. howtart to recognize critical it is for the safety and security of our country that we actually have policies in effect that will protect our borders. ths