have a more open government starts with a bipartisan coalition to lay that foundation. what is critical is handing off to the american people, entrepreneurs, public and and to build more interesting by products and services. monday night at eight eastern on c-span two. >> we are going live to atlanta for the final debate between the candidates in georgia senate race. and crat michelle nunn republican david perdue are running for the seat. courtesy of wsb tv. >> from the wsb tv studios,

here is your moderator. >> good morning and welcome to this live interactive news debate. is big in georgia and for the balance of power in the united states senate. also the final debate. we want to welcome you watching our lifestream and around the nation on c-span. remember to treat as using your questions -- tweet us your questions. we determined podium positions by drawing. first, the republican candidate, david perdue. the the democratic candidate, michelle nunn. and independent candidate, amanda swofford. atlanta journal-constitution washington correspondent, daniel malloy. and lori gary.

candidates, you will have one minute for response. these are loose guidelines for today as certain topics may warrant wartime. i'm going to try very hard to get some clarity on this campaign ads. mr. perdue and miss nunn, have held public office. ms. swofford, you have, but clearly you are outside the beltway politicians. each of e you done -- you -- what have you done in your life to prepare you for one of the most powerful jobs in us government? >> thank you, justin. thank you, panelists. as i go around the state, the hear r one issue that i from hard-working georgians is they are really concerned about their jobs. that they have one and they are worried about keeping it. if they don't have one, they're worried about how hard it is to find one. in my career, i have spent my

entire career creating tens of thousands of jobs. provide nd help individuals the opportunity to provide for their family. the united states senate has about 10 people who have experienced. i think it is time we add a little depth about how to create jobs. i just believe that in this environment, the people of georgia want somebody who will fight for them and not fight for this president. >> if i may follow without. what would you do specifically if you say create jobs? what would you do as a us senator? >> for the last three for the for the last year, we have been talking about the things i would do. need serious tax reform. we have the only repatriation tax in the world. maybe most important is that we need to really pull back on our regulators. this president has created a

fourth arm of government and i believe they are really and ting down job creation growth right now. third, we need to finally unlock our energy resources to get this economy going again. >> miss nunn, what would you do as a senator? what have you done in your life prepare you for? >> thank you. i have spent my entire life make a difference -- serving people, creating an a few dozen from people and taking it to an organization that last year mobilized 4000 volunteers. i started hand on atlanta with a couple thousand dollarsand we ended up with an organization that had a $30 million budget. so i know what it is like to work across differences. i worked with george w. bush's points of light organization. i want to break the gridlock in washington and i know that the putting o that is by our country first, above party,

and above partisan divide, and actually getting things done that matter in people's lives. is different from by his own account, has spent the majority of his career outsourcing jobs. and who, throughout the campaign, has perpetuated the gridlock. >> ms. swofford. >> as someone who has held local office, i have stood up have a principled record for voting for less government. absolutely, the real action is on the line -- i stood up for small businesses. a lot of r citizens opportunity to have choices in the way that government services work -- were to be delivered. i have done a lot of things and local government and i stayed involved, even after losing reelection. i stayed engaged. i take personal responsibility step up and run for united

georgians ate to give a real choice for their next united states senator, instead of just complaining and not a lot of anything. i'm staying engaged and being responsible. >> okay, let's get to our kennels question. to first ask you, this has been one of the biggest races we have covered. to ask you -- there have been some really outrageous attacks against all of you. let me get your answer to this. mr. perdue, you have been you discriminate against women. ms. swofford, you have been asked to step out of the race because you have been called selfish. what is the most egregious attack you have heard about you? set the your chance to record straight. >> thank you. the most egregious attack is that david attack made saying that president

george wh bush was funneling money to terrorists. it has been called the worst ad of the entire campaign. not in georgia, but in the entire united states. by usa today, by time magazine, by washington post. bush said it was shameful and despicable and it should be taken down. it was really an affront not just to me, but really to the millions of volunteers who were of building an a ganization that is really legacy of president george hw bush and the work of so many so that is the kind of negativity -- that is the kind of negativity that so many people are tired of. >> mr. perdue. bit like s a little calling the kettle black. i had to do this for the former president. she has endorsed me.

this is her ex-boss who has me in this campaign because he is concerned about the future direction of our country. me just answer this. think the most egregious thing in this debate has been all the attacks on me about my character, my career. this ust seems to me that is an attempt to distract away from the real critical issue, and that his job creation here in georgia. she is trying to distract people away from the real critical issue. president obama said that his failed policy -- like obama is going to destroy two and half million jobs, the congressional budget office. it just seems to me that his in he said the and the state -- and in the state, goes by michelle nunn.

called selfish for taking alternatives in this race. for someone who wants to stand up for most georgians. for someone who wants to have more control in their lives. who don't believe that either party is giving them options to really take control. who want to have voices in this race. up against both parties who no longer allow us to understand that it is about ability and ponse individual liberties. that is the most egregious thing certainly that most -- that both parties are entitled to your vote. vote is your vote and it is your power and your responsibility to use that vote manner you see fit and vote for candidates that you think represent you the best. not when you believe is going to win the horse race. >> let's get some clarity on an issue, please. you both mention the bush family a couple times.

ms. nunn, your campaign is former president george bush in a campaign ad. but this is what was said by this president spoke person. her ng that michelle and team has been repeatedly told that president bush did not want them to use this photo as part of this campaign. apparently, the 19 can apparently, the nunn team feels they can continue to use his photo. >> that is a perfect embodiment of my message to say that i'm with whoever it is. clinton, president obama, president bush -- we have too much of the prosecution and not enough problem solving together. i spent seven years working with president george hw bush. unlike david, i do not want to

erase parts of my resume. this is a significant dimension what i have done and what this race is about. is no surprise that -- of course, we know that david can work with his fellow republicans. the question is, can he work with democrats? he said that is not a single democratic issue that he can find to work together on. when you talk about talk spectful, you should about the ad that has been called the worst in the nation. >> mr. perdue. >> well, let's set the record straight again. this race did not endorse michelle nunn. a press lly sent release out supporting our campaign. to change directions in this country. again, another distraction away from failed policy of this administration that my opponent, michelle nunn, supports. president on amnesty bill will bring 15 million new workers into this country.

this is a bill she supports. by the way, she talks about all working together. sounds like a story that our presidents told us in 2008 said he would work together in a bipartisan way. the first thing he did was cram obama care down her throat. is it any wonder why she is going to be a rubber stamp for this president? is it any wonder why he put on radio elect michelle none so she can get up there and continued his good work? >> david, i know that this is you line of attacks that would like to -- and someone wants to run david against harry reid, he should to nevada for that, are running against me and i have made very clear that i have real differences with the president and i will stand up for those differences, whether it is moving forward

i e keystone pipeline -- think it is important to reverse the cuts that the president has made in our defense budget. and i think that the president and congress should have done a better job of working together on a long-term debt. when it means raising the pay equity or r actually -- actually tackling the tremendous problems before us as a nation. >> daniel malloy. >> mr. perdue, you just said that the attacks lodged against you are false. have you outsourced in your career? >> no. >> what is the difference between outsourcing products and services and jobs? >> @dollar general, we created tens of thousands of jobs and we outsource products there. have said all along that these false attacks are taking away from the real debate. i have traveled all over the state. people are concerned about their jobs. we see a president bragging

about his policies -- which are failing us, by the way. have fewer people working in the united states right now, as a percentage, since jimmy carter. workers in ,000 georgia alone who had to go on food stamps. are not good works. it just seems to me that this president has said his policies are on the ballot. in the state of georgia, those failed policies go by the name of michelle nunn. clear david, let's be that in the ct deposition, under oath, you said you spent the majority of your career outsourcing. you then went on to list 16 countries where you created jobs. korea, china, taiwan, mexico -- not once did you mention the us. the head of sourcing all in asia. so, if that is not outsourcing

jobs, i do not know what is. question hat he will the business career -- your business career do not understand, but i do not think to clarify en able for us. >> you said just a minute ago talk to a farmer about this. and, again, all these attacks have been false. in the primary and run off as well. but talking to a farmer, michelle, it is interesting that you can do that without feeling like a hypocrite. he told the farmer how important he and his businesses in your own et plan, you rated farming issues your list of priorities and you actually rated rural issues that last. is the kind of distraction that i'm talking about. you don't want to talk about the sleight-of-hand when you say one thing to one group and another thing to another group. i think barack obama wants you in his senate to fight for him, not for the people of georgia.

>> david, you continue to reference the memo. something that was put together by a staff team that listed separate issues. you know very well that if you look at my website we talk about agriculture. your website, there is nothing on agriculture. let's talk about the issues where we are presenting ourselves to the public. if you want to talk to the issues, i would love to talk about the farm bill. something bill is that saxby chambliss said was perhaps the most important piece of legislation for most people in the state of georgia. are opposed to it.are opposed t.

the farm bureau said that they wanted it -- if we had your way, we would still have farmers that did not have the clarity of exley having a farm bill passed. that is not what we need in washington. we do not need more gridlock. >> and this is an interesting issue, mr. perdue, about the farm bill and what is tied to it. >> well, it is a perfect example of an ombudsman bill were only 20% of the bill was related to the farmers. the other 80% was related to the food stamp program. but let me go back to that plan. in her own plan, her own advisers said that she was too liberal for the state of

georgia. that she is not even a real georgian. they had to put her in a rural scenes so people would think that rule issues are important to her. this is not the kind of senator we need a washington. we need somebody to be a champion for the working men and women in georgia were concerned about the kids in the future. barack obama wants her up there to defend his policies. that is not the kind of senator we need in washington. >> we know that you have all been on this. now to our next panels, please. >> ms. nunn, short of seeing you in person, the most repeated thing that most heroes heard you say -- either on television or listening to the radio -- is that quote i differ to the president of the united states. an ould like to give opportunity right now -- what when you id you mean said that? >> i'm happy to answer that, go back until to david that he continues to cite the memorandum put together by group of staff people that his staff got a hold of and -- it is completely egregious. this memo said that this is how my opponent would attack me. and he has used those as truths throughout the campaign. i, frankly, do not believe that connect would ever george hw bush's point of life with terrorism. but david, you surprised me. as it relates to your question, another example, again -- it has been cited.

line from a ken one debate and used it to apply to every form of issue. line in the one context of a personnel decision related to the veterans of ministration. ultimately, the president does make personal decisions and i first to come out, shortly thereafter, to say that we should replace the head of the va. i have spent my entire career trying to make a difference. much of that focused on veterans. commitment to ep making sure that we're doing everything possible for veterans, but this is the kind that david has run in which he has taken snippets of pictures or lines -- and use them in a way that -- completely misread misrepresenting the truth. >> i'm sorry, she has gone all state talking of how important it is to have a strong military.

yet on the important issues that we know our disaster within the veterans administration's, she's going to refer to the president. i believe that if we are going to set this nation on a new direction, we need people in the senate to enact to be a stamp for barack obama. he said his policies are on the ballot and that she will be a rubber stamp for that. i want to go to the senate to fight for the people of georgia. >> ms. nunn. know very well -- you continue to use rubber stamp. i believe that everything you said in the campaign is that you want to be a rubber stamp for gridlock in washington. i have spent about 45 minutes of my life with president obama. i have spent seven years working for the points of light organization. and i have a deep and abiding commitment -- i have talked the entire r campaign -- for working across party lines. i believe we can work together to get things done.

it is a very different approach than the one captured on the i believe rail and that -- it is a legitimate are erence to say that you seemingly in favor of more of more of isanship and the gridlock and i actually believe that we directed us to work together. talk about gridlock. blames gridlock and congress, yet today, there are over $300 on harry reid's desk. this allows this president -- on harry reid's desk. we have a lack of leadership. you flip-flopped later after i asked for a travel ban. you now support my position to ask for travel ban. your story of coming together and working in a bipartisan way is a false promise, just like president obama promised it in

2008. >> let's talk about reform. on the one hand, the united states and the states without system in place. the borders are porous, yet there are families and children, in limbo. so to each candidate, where are you on immigration reform? the bipartisan immigration reform that mark rubio led. we need to make sure to secure our borders. legislation would have actually a compass that with an investment of 20,000 security agents -- that would be there already. talked about his concern, but remember, 20,000 security agent would have been put forward to this legislation. and i believe that people should have the capacity to go back of the line to

learning is, to pay taxes. and they must do that in order to have citizenship. david talked about jobs. this immigration bill would actually create over 1 million jobs. we know it would also cut the debt. so this is something that the said amber of commerce has that therefore -- they said, in fact, that david was lying about the bill and this legislation. a chance, mr. ve perdue. ms. wofford. >> both parties are talking for a immigration form long time, why don't we talk about the laws on the books until we -- before we write new laws. will remember, in 1986, we were given immigration form without entitlement reform. i think we really need to look

entitlement system. that is going to be paramount discussion on immigration reform. we have to ask why do we not have it already. we had a border security bill that passed in 2007 and we do not have that yet. both parties promised more and more reform, yet we never get that. it is paramount that we sit down and have discussions about is going to look and what we're going to do about instead of letting -- instead of relying on the bipartisan bickering. >> thank you. first of all, i agree that we have to secure the border, but this is not what michelle nunn was talking about. i am actually a part of the bipartisan opposition to the senate bill. the bill would bring 15 million new workers in over the next 10 years. this is not what the people of georgia want to hear when they're having trouble finding jobs. it just seems to me that this

is a bad thought about amnesty and this president has, action, put on the table that after the elections, he might consider my get amnesty. it just seems to me that right now, if we are to get focused and he components of this get after it, we can secure the border and provide solutions going forward. my opponent is nothing more than a rubber stamp on this issue of amnesty. if he comes -- she doesn't support his executive amnesty, she just wants to do it herself. be a is not only going to rubber stamp, he wants her in the u.s. senate because she will fight for his failed are cies that, in his mind, providing good work. understand sure i what you mean. work with john mccain and marco rubio. they have said that what you have characterized on this bill is simply untrue. you sat down with the us

-- they of commerce represent business -- yet you by your own account because you cannot have a conversation about this. they went on to say that you were lying about this bill and their position. the farm bureau has also supported this bill and farmers i have talked to say they need this kind of legislation to be able to be successful in terms of farming here in georgia. of , i am on the side business and farmers and people across the state to actually want solutions. >> mr. perdue, there has been a lot of talk about the minimum wage. do you think there should be a minimum wage at all? if so, what do think it to be set up? >> what i said is that i do not believe it is consistent with right now m we have with unemployment where we have fewer people working in the united states since anytime since jimmy carter.

the congressional budget office is actually estimated that an in the minimum wage from where it is now to $10.10 would actually kill 500,000 jobs. when people in the state of georgia are having trouble finding work -- or who have afraid of losing it -- that is not the time to be talking about something like this. the type of policy that this president is trying to perpetrate on the people of georgia. my opponent is in agreement with that. this is not the way to create jobs. you create jobs by correcting back ax policies, pulling the and regulators, and unlocking our energy resources. president obama wants her to be on the senate to serve as a proxy for him. the name of those policies are michelle nunn. >> michelle nunn, do think the minimal weight should increase? >> i do think the minimum wage should increase.

david perdue has yet to answer that question. and if so, what do you think it should be? i think we should raise the minimum wage. states that have raised the minimum wage have higher employment rates than georgia does. are at dollar u general, it took one of your minimum wage employees a four-year to make what you made in a single day. so i think it is easy enough for you to say that you are not in favor of waging -- raising the minimum wage. but for the thousands of dependent upon minimum wage, we need to make sure working families have the capacity to be self-sufficient. know the answer to do you believe there is a federal minimum wage rate that we should have? >> mr. perdue, what should be? >> first, i would like to ask your question. >> that is an and excitement --

next segment-- >> hold on. it just seems to me that this type of increase -- the question is be answered. which person out of everything are losing to tell their jobs? because that is what happens when you increase the rate at this point in time. are the failed e policies that this president is arrogant about and has said are on the ballot in this race. he wants michelle nunn in the continue his p him work, when 400,000 georgians one of food stamps last year they got jobs. >> ms. swofford, do you agree? i do not support a minimum wage. the government to not be involved in the day-to-day decisions of our company. minimum-wage laws minimize opportunities for everyone in the workforce. >> thank you all for that.

we encourage you to stay with us now. we are just getting started and the candidates will have the opportunity to question one after a short break. >> during this break, we will show you some of the ads the georgia senate race. >> i am michelle nunn and i approve this message. my dad founded softwire more than 60 years ago. what i hear -- when i hear david perdue say that he is proud to outsource jobs to points of the world -- parts of the world, i have to wonder. invest in e we georgia workers, they can compete with the rest of the world. perdue helps create save thousands of jobs right here in the united states of

america. we want to know where michelle nunn is on jobs, national security. >> she never says. supports ecause she president obama's agenda. >> we do not need more bad policies from washington, we need a new direction. >> that is david perdue. >> david perdue. >> i'm david perdue and i approve this message. >> now we are heading back to atlanta. >> now time for the candidates to question one another. we held a joint to determine the order. first question is from michelle nexus from amanda swofford, and the final candidate question will come from david perdue. tenure avid, during your at dollar general, he made over $40 million. yet the 2000 women who sue the company during your tenure and they said that they were paid less. it was found by federal investigators that they were paid low.

given your experience there, i wonder if you would join me, today, and actually supporting the paycheck fairness act. which would help ensure that women are paid equally to their counterparts, men. >> thank you, michelle. first of all, we have a lot in the land. this new law would only serve the lawyers in the country. worked my entire life supporting equal pay for equal work. this is another false attack that has been disproven by independent fact checkers. trying to why she is distract us -- you understand why. the obama care law, the signature line of this president, is killing 2.5 million jobs right now. yet she supports that law. to expand that law. when 400,000 t georgians -- more georgians have gone on food stamps that have actually gotten jobs in last six years -- that is

not the kind of why we need. the epa has killed thousands of new jobs. it is no wonderwhy barack obama wants michelle nunn in the senate. the people of georgia want a champion for them and fight for their families. david, i do think families in georgia want someone who will fight for them. women and k the children deserve someone who will fight for them to be paid equally. lot ink action speak a louder than words and, clearly, your history of and experience, i feel like you would be in the position to say to do better ed here. every time that we have the opportunity to talk about a sensitive issue like this, you move it to a conversation in decide you are running against the president.

i think -- again, women and families deserve pay equities and i'm disappointed that you will not join me and actually advancing the goal. michelle, i absolutely agree that we need parity. improvement ays around the world, but i have not got new yet to talk about obama care. you bragged about -- it is a great bill, i support the president -- yet it is killing 2.5 million jobs right now. go even further and let's talk about amnesty. talk amnesty bill will about 15 million new low-wage workers into a country. me that this to president is adamant about getting you in the senate needs you to be his rubberstamp in the senate. his failed policies are indeed on the ballot. in georgia, they go by the name of michelle nunn. >> mr. perdue, your chance to ask a question in just a moment, but miss wofford, your turn. >> my question is for mr. perdue.

you have had a lot of support in the senate race from senator ron paul, senator tankers, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, former governor and presidential candidate mitt former congressman allen west. from these support well-connected individuals, how can you call yourself a political outsider? >> thank you, ms. offered. that is easy because i can. never been involved in politics until now. they want to change in washington. i went into an event back in may and i was opening a door. a lady who looked like she was 80's said that you are running for senate. i said, yes i am.

she asked, have i ever done anything in office before. i said, no i have not. she said, well, you have my vote. michelle nunn was hand-picked by barack obama. she has been funded by him. is it any wonder why she wants her in the senate to be his proxy. is it any wonder why she needs her to support his agenda. i believe the people of georgia deserve better. in georgia, the name of those failed policies is michelle nunn. >> david, your opportunity to ask a question. >> can i get a rebuttal to that? mr. perdue, forgive me, but i do not agree you. i have to say that i am the outsider in this race. >> mr. perdue. >> the question or can i rebut that? >> this time, you ask a question. >> let me say that we are a diverse people -- diverse group of people

together and i'm very proud of that. even independent and have come to us to resonate our message. president obama's policies have been killing jobs. obama care alone is killing 2.5 million jobs, the epa is thousands in several industries, and this president loaded up $7 trillion of more debt with nothing to show for it on the job front. we have fewer people working today than at any time since jimmy carter was president. in georgia, 400,000 more people had gone food stamps the next he got jobs. i think the next us senator needs to understand how to quit us jobs. michelle, just a quick question. to create a job? all, let id, first of me address aca. i have said -- you completely misrepresented what i said. i have said that the line needs to be fixed. i have given solutions to fix

also making sure that we are actually extending tax credits to small businesses. i do not believe it is a perfect bill. it has many faults, but i also think we want to go forwards, not backwards. we do not want where the same gridlock that you seem to want to embrace. you are a new face, but you perpetuate the same level of gridlock. i do not think people want that next senator in washington. in terms of creating jobs, i eight point shot plan. some of the ideas are similar to yours. code, d to reform the tax invest in infrastructure -- that is accessible to create 1 million jobs. so those are just a few of the we need to do to create jobs.

>> rebuttal and then a question. >> that is interesting. you really, still have not answer the question. the you saying that government creates jobs. they created new jobs to administer obama care. i believe in smaller government. there is no wonder why this president wants you in washington. he wants a rubberstamp to make this government bigger. trillion tie added $7 to our debt. than s on track to more double our debt, even though he said he would cut it in half. his policies are indeed on this ballot. in georgia, unfortunately, they go by the name of michelle nunn. >> ms. nunn, knowing what you know now, would you have voted for obama care in 2000 and? >> i have said many times that there and i have said

that i wish there's more bipartisanship. we have people, like david, that think that compromise means coming to them and not actually working together to get something done. i have said many times that believe we should and must change the things that are not working. but again, i talked to people on the campaign trail who say that they have a pre-existing condition and have access to health care for the very first time. have talked to parents who are covering the children up to age 26 and they say that they sleep better at night. so i know that we should actually not be having the same conversation over the next six years. if you want the kind of gridlock that we have had in washington, david wants to pursue that path. i will say, david, that you have talked about covering creating jobs. i know the government does not create jobs, the private sector creates jobs. but there are instances -- people who do

seem to benefit from government, in that instance. >> i'm really glad you brought the port up, michelle. to 17 years -- 17 years deepen that port about 5 feet. i believe that is obama getting in ion is the way and keeping us from competing around the world. it is one of the reasons i got in this race. i believe we need to have some in the senate to champion the rights. not a rubber stamp for barack obama. >> it did take a long time to get the port -- and i think that is, again, because people are not working together, but you cannot prosecute you were to report. you cannot prosecute the other party and think that you will create a bipartisan partnership. i think that is very clear by

evidence of the 17 years it has taken. >> let me give you a good example. i have never said i would not work with the democrats. let me give you an example of an idea that would work across party lines. we have the only repatriation tax in the world. we have $2.5 trillion to cover sees. this is a nonpartisan issue, even his president cannot talk about this because they are blocking over 300 bills, passed in the house, on the desk of harry reid. this allows our president to run this country with executive order. the people of georgia deserve better than that. that is why i'm going to washington to work with anybody to grow our economy and build jobs right here at home. >> when you say you are that you g the agenda laid out, that is the very definition of not compromising. that is actually saying, when people agree with me, i will move forward. and when they don't, we will have paralysis and gridlock.

you have been spending time cruz was the architect of the washington shut down. you have said that you think we -- you know -- that it was a good political tactic. do want to continue to have political shutdowns if you're in the senate? >> what you defined to sell his leadership. i'm going to go to washington work every single day to work with democrats, republicans, and libertarians, anybody, to move this forward. right now, the soul prisoners gridlock is harry reid. until we -- by the way, let's talk about judicial appointment in the next two years if the republicans do not get the senate. do want someone who's own staff calls are too liberal for georgia? >> miss wofford, i have a question for you. if the polling is correct, some get just re likely to

enough votes to perhaps push this vote to a runoff. i know you expect to win not uesday, if that does happen, what about either of your opponents do think you can criteria might t you use in offering an endorsement? going to be tainly looking forward to tuesday. you know, the individual has the power and responsibility to vote for the candidate they are best allied with, not to they believe the parties are telling them to vote for. you are electing a senator for six years. our present only has two years left in his term. so that is something we certainly have to think about. but certainly, we are going to be looking for a lot of things to happen on tuesday because a lot of rights that this country has at stake. we have kansas, louisiana -- there's a lot that could happen between now and the first of the year. but we will be looking towards

the parties and how each party will respond. we will be looking towards and private erience sector experience and how the candidates run their campaigns. we are getting substantive discussion of the issues. terms of congress -- let's put a little bit harder on this. you know a lot about these people. you have debated with them. who is more aligned towards you? >> i think it is really going in the nd -- when we are runoff -- we are going to see possibly unprecedented amounts of money pushed into georgia. i want to see how that changes the electorate and how it changes the response of a candidate. by the actually going to issues and the directing issues instead of some of the things we have heard more about -- campaign and about depositions -- issues lly about how the are being addressed.

>> so you're not prepared to say that you are leaning toward either candidate today -- >> cracks, we are focused on what is going to happen on rest of the how the country goes down. >> thank you. >> at a republican form with opponent he talked about the internet sales tax and how you came from a different perspective. where do you stand on that issue now? do believe that the playing field should be leveled between brick-and-mortar stores and the internet sales tax? >> yes i do. i think we have to have a level playing field. first we need to have tax reform. the only repatriation trapped over $2 trillion offshore. we need to start reading real jobs in georgia. the people of georgia want us to talk about that.

they want us to find solutions to things like obama care. the fact that this amnesty bill that my opponent supports -- brings in over 15 million low-wage workers to this country. barack obama wants his policies represented on this ballot, and they are. unfortunately, in georgia, they go by the name of michelle nunn. you clearly have -- you are enamored by that line me just remind you that if you want more gridlock, i think that you go by the name of david perdue. we need to eve that change washington, that we need send people who both are republican and democrat to work lines, to take it to stop the paralysis, then i am the candidate. i have declared my independence

around a variety of issues. i have experience that is this entire s electoral platform in action having proven that i can work across party lines and i believe that is what it is going to take. i do not think it is one party or the other that is responsible. i think it is both. >> in the middle of the game, you cannot change your jersey just because your team is losing. this talk about bipartisanship yet obama care, the signature bill of this president, not one single democrat in the senate voted against it and not one single republican voted for it. this is the same bill of goods we were sold in 2008 when the president said he would bring us all together. i think he has been the most divisive president in our history. he said he would bring our presidents -- parties together, yet he crammed obama care down the throats of the minorities. no wonder he wants michelle nunn in the senate.

all three of you, would you vote right now to authorize war against isis? start with perdue. >> well, daniel, what we have right now, this president ignored his advisers. his advisers that said he needed to leave a stabilizing force. if you didn't, it would create a vacuum in which groups like isis would grow. we need leadership in that area. these people have said that they are going to come to our backyard. we need to take that seriously. -- need to secure our border separate from the immigration issue. right now, we need leadership in the white house to battle this issue here. my opponent has flip-flopped on some of these issues, like ebola. only after i came out and asked for a travel ban did she come back and say, yes, i agree with david.

that is not the kind of leadership we are looking for the united states senate. these policies are failing and name orgia, they go by the of michelle nunn. >> david, my position on ebola the same as chambliss. that is all i need to say about it. we take to be sure that extraordinary and -- and most important efforts there to combat ebola. and we need to make sure we are following our scientists as we do that. i believe that we need to have a conversation, deliberation along long-term deliberation in congress. right now, i'm continuing the right now e have around airstrikes and around continuing to arm the moderate rebels. david, a year ago, you are for d if you are intervening in syria and

armoring the moderate rebels, and i think that would've made difference in fighting isis, and you said no. >> please answer that and then, miss offered -- not think it is -- that is in total disregard. you have absolutely a ip-flopped on the evil travel ban -- ebola travel ban. i think we need strong the white house -- not just with isis and ebola. safety and security is the thing i hear from people in georgia and we are not getting it from this president. focused on his legacyand his obama care and his legacy bill that he is ignoring the very concerns of the people in georgia. that is why i want to go to the senate and fight for the people of georgia. >> ms. nunn.

>> again, david, you failed to your lack of leadership as it concerns intervening in syria a year ago. but let me just say that i have been very clear that the cuts to our military are dangerous. our e are jeopardizing military readiness and it is important that we cuts that have happened as a failure of leadership between the president and congress and, again,

again, emblematic of the representation you want -- >> the power and responsibility of the federal government of foreign policies to protect united states citizens. in regards to isis, we have to look at if there has been a specific threat. once that is in place, we have to have a declaration of war by congress. and that is the constitutional response to that, not unilateral action by the president. once that is in place, we have to look at -- looking at a specific enemy, no building of infrastructure, no weighting of france. at the current time, i would not support a current invasion

of isis, but i would monitor that and continue to look forward to what is happening in that environment and have a vote by congress. that is a proper response if we're going to go forward. >> if you promise very brief answers, next question. >> ms. nunn, the stock market is higher than ever -- live in a that we time in which there is a huge again, animus and to arization and we need send people to washington who are going to put the nation's issues first. i think there are a lot of things to be optimistic about our country. at the same time, the things that are broken is our government. the only way to fix it is to send people to washington who are to work together. people are still feeling a deal of economic insecurity and we need to do raise sense things like minimum wage, pay equity, to create the conditions that will lead to greater job growth. so, again, there are a lot of things to be optimistic about need to try, but we break through the government gridlock and paralysis that is holding us back. >> thank you, candace. i disagree with the conclusion. i think the president is failing. we have fewer people working in since any states time since jummy carter was president. middle-class income has dropped dramatically. in the last six years alone, into poverty.

these are not measures for successful administration. nobody is leading us with regard to our foreign-policy. our economy is failing the people of georgia. what i hear out there in the state of georgia is that they wanted leader in washington to stand up to the present. that is not going to be michelle nunn. i will go to the senate and fight for the people of georgia. you. it is now time for closing remarks. >> thank you, panel. thank you, justin. during this campaign, i have traveled all over our great state -- talking to hard-working georgians -- and listening to your concern. it is very simple, if you like direction of our country, a vote for michelle nunn will be a vote for barack obama and his and nothing ies will change. it just seems to me that if you frustrated as i am about

the size and scope of this government, about the fact that not secure ent will our borders, and about the fact that we are building up a huge then stand with me. stand with me and i will be your voice in the senate. every day for you to

solve the problems that are affecting you and your family every day, right here in georgia. president obama wants michelle nunn to go to the senate to pay for him. i want to go to washington to fight for you. i'm david perdue. i'm asking for your trust in your vote to be your next us senator. >> ms. swofford. >> we have two choices in the united states senate race. you can vote for more government, obama care, a rubberstamp for mitch o'connell, or you can vote for candidates, like me, who understands that government is the problem that the solution. a candidate, like me, will not vote for any of the current leadership because they are all doing a dismal job. a candidate, like me, who really understands that it makes no difference who controls the senate because both parties have a controlling us for decades. there are a lot of racist or at going to ry that are be impacting -- the first that i talked about. you are just going to get more the same. but when you go to the polls on tuesday, you will be able to vote for a candidate who the power and responsibility lies within the individual, nothing government -- not the government. >> first of all, thank you all. i got into this race because i wanted to continue and extend done for that i have 26 years, and that is serving people, making a difference in their lives, solving problems, and getting things done. got into this race

because i believe we can break through the gridlock in washington. i have seen throughout my entire career and throughout his last 16 months the campaign that we can do anything when we work together. contrast in this race in terms of experience, aspirations. david has done well in his the people around him have to often not been brought along. if you think we can break through the gridlock by more prosecution and let's david is e, then offering that. i think georgians want is someone who is going to bring justice and liberation. so i ask for your vote on tuesday. >> on behalf of our panels and viewers, we thank you for being with us this morning. best of luck on election day. this concludes our debate. being with u all for us, loyally.

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