president's -- he remains an inscrutable figure. there was a fundamental ministry on what the real election meant. one of the things that has been really striking, how the democrats should of figured out how to deal with obama and accept the good of him. the relationship between senate democrats and the white the reln democrats and the white house adjusted. rated in the lead up to the election. just deteriorated in the lead up to the election. things areow how going to go forward in the lame duck because they are not great

between harry reid's office and obama's office. on theere breathtaking record quotes from harry reid's advisor. >> there is a data point. you hear talk about democratic representatives and, what he is saying about obama is reflective of the campaign. reluctance to be a to go out and defend the president and there are these problems. >> you must have aged. you have become a wise man. he reflects and he learns. 's reflexes to go into denial.

deflectx is to go to the nial. >> i have had many losses. you do not obsess about the wins. people are driven by a fear of failure. >> i thought obama was going to the democratic nomination because he lost the house race. gotought dan malloy reelected by 3%, a landslide. i agree with those who say that we jump too early to 2016. let's jump to 2016. run?b going to

does paul see any competition for hillary clinton? which of you thinks that she needs some? maggie's overall perspective. i will start with jeb and take it from there. >> i hate this question more than the root canal i got this morning. friends andmy tenent. i see him all the time and we talk like normal people. we do not just talk politics. i think he is today where he was and 2012.8 he has not shut it off. he has been transparent in

saying where his head is and what his timeline is. he is seriously considering it it.stop -- considering he is setting a timeline for himself at the end of this year. it does not mean that you will know. i may know. if he makes an announcement, it will not be until the first water or so of next year. quarter or so of next year. everyone thinking of running to president has to ask two questions. do i want to run? what is my agenda? can i tell the american people what i stand for from a positive place? i think jeb may have answered that already. is, "shoulduestion i run?" vortex of politics

has become a blender. it means that you are guaranteeing that you are going to be fighting for your life blender-type hunger game under national scrutiny for, at least, a year. by being in aed higher level of scrutiny for an additional year. if you happen to win the damn thing, you are in that the rest of your life and you come out of the white house looking like you have been in an aging room. question forty somebody who is in a good place in his life, that is the failed, that is happy, that is making a difference, they get to spend time with his family, see his

grandkids. the answer is, i do not know. i do not think he knows. he is considering it and is serious. bushst people regard jeb as the former governor's son. we have someone who regards him as a tenant. that wethe copy do not know if hillary ariuss going to run. i have never seen this kind of early support for a candidate from the grassroots level and people who were not even born when her husband was running all the way up to the biggest donors and supporters. it is remarkable. i think shethat,

will have a primary opponent and it is a good thing. the challenge of hillary clinton is the best thing that happened to barack obama and hillary clinton. they improve each other. i saw her after she got out of the race. she was really admiring obama because she likes toughness. the question that voters have, is he tough enough. es. -- he is. >> rand paul? >> he could. someone could. >> ron paul. .w. bush prosecutor and patd won it

buchanan got a third of the vote. is herng it will force working through the question of obama. you cannot run from him. my view of him is that he has done a ton of good for the country and his legacy could be great. like all presidents, except my boss, he had a six-year dip. andound down the bush wars killed bin laden. he won a latin grammy -- nobel peace prize, i am sorry. there are people on the left who are dissatisfied with obama and they will be with hillary. it is good for the party and for her as a talent. it is a pain in the neck. nobody likes to get attacked. i do.

think -- i think -- i covered hillary more than jeb. i saw that. >> transferring her soon. >> i think it is right that jeb bush has been straight:. i think he wants to be president wants tonot sure he run. once that is true of everybody. not all of us will run for president. in terms of hillary clinton, i think there was night and day between the first half. i think she was pretty terrible. i think the book tour was ready terrible.

correction.course i think there will be a primary challenge. that is where the party is. i do not know who it will be. you had andrew cuomo, who has , overall,ar especially after the spitzer and patterson years. we had a primary challenge from a professor who appealed to the grassroots. >> what did she get question 38%. >> she got 37%-30 >> the coolest professor name that we have heard is johnny rottencrotch. >> my mother made me go to confession after that. money.had no she got almost 40% of the vote.

clinton.l be hillary she was not sitting well on the lead. and she tends to resort to tactics over message. that will be a big challenge. she will have a primary challenge will stop what does she say about obama? does she try to run away from obama? i do not see how she can do that easily on domestic issues. i think she has opened up space with him and it has the benefit of being true, on foreign policy. foreign policy is not what voters will be basing their votes on all stop my question about hillary clinton is not about who primaries her. i think she is in a better position now. obama was a unique center and a

unique candidate. -- senator and a unique candidate. elizabeth warren is not. obama. -- elizabeth warren is not barack obama. it is a question of whether she is prepared for the modern modern campaign. i was struck by watching her the last six months on the book tour. the bookstore was not what i thought it was going to be. i thought it was going to be an opportunity for her to connect and speak with voters. she was doing this. signing books and sitting at a table, not speaking to people. her stump speeches were really good. not all the time. much of the time, better than 2007. she was not connecting with

voters. it was not natural. at that as ay good senator and is good in small settings. it is hard to be the head of year to going to the iowa steak fry over and over. i am not sure if she is mentally there. it will be a question she has to deal with. ofi want to open the idea the secretary of state at a stake right. -- steak fry. can we see hands? think of this as the second or 10th question. what is this on? can you dare me -- >> is this on?

can you hear me? my sense is that the democrats achilles' heel is the extent to which turnout is analyzed by group. there was a lot of talk about how african-americans did not come out because obama was not hispanics notor coming out because of disappointment on immigration policy. do you see that with hillary mark noquestion african-american on the ballot in 2016 and the possibility of not a lot of advancement of immigration issues. do you see the democrats as having a weakness, and not being able to energize? as a republican -- is the

republican achilles' heel the first three primaries that favor far right candidates who never succeed in the end. huckabee.rcomes romney overcomes santorum. those further to the right candidates pulled mccain and romney into positions that hurt them in the general. is that the republican problem? >> you make a great point. it is fundamentally unkn owable. i don't think anybody really knows. obama has really changed the way campaigns are run and the way the electorate is assembled, for the better, if you ask me. he saw this coming. he saw this coming before anyone else in the business.

the rising american electorate, young people, unmarried women, people of color. they had been poor performers. -- itesident phenomenally was the combination of the man, the message, it and the mechanics. man.ll not have the i hope we have the message and the mechanics. here is one of the reasons i am excited about hillary. the formula, it seems to me, is take the obama coalition and inspire them the way he did. and, because i am greedy, do better with white working-class voters. 39% of the white vote. the worst any president has done

since mondale. he carried one more state that my grandmother. than my grandmother. you do not want 38%. i don't. my party has the ability to do better with white working-class voters. i think hillary can rally the base. it is fundamental. this happened all stop i went through the exit polls of demographics and it is astonishing. two completely different countries. it is astonishing. young people voted at 21% turnout. 36.4% overall. overall, 21% for young people. i say this at every college campus.

get freeold people health care in america? take a guess? 100%. what percentage of young people get free college? 0%. why? called, a great song you cannot win if you do not play. old people vote will stop -- openable vote -- old people vote. president impressively inspired young people, unmarried women, people of color. can we pick that up? democrats need to remain in

the game and build on this. that is the roadmap. continuing to lift the rising american electorate. , ion't know if you can see am white and a dude. we ought to be able to get some of us. southern, straight, white, catholic, male, one owner, democrat. owner, democrat. from the primary issue, the way it looks and shapes up, i think we are heading towards something similar to what the 2012, that -- similar to in that we will have a host of characters on the debate stages. rnc has tried to get some

logic. -- putting some restraints so that it does not crazyike it is, you know, parade day in school and we do not have debate after debate, where people are trying to make a name by saying colorful and memorable -- >> 9-9-9. >> it looks like ben carson, rand paul, are going to run. ted cruz is scoping out space. peopleill be a lot of running. myself throughd a lot of therapy and liquor that it is a good thing.

with somethis conviction. it is good. to have these kind of primaries because, as painful as it may you,s entertaining for soul-searching, at the end, you come out with a defined voice. runningyou may see some know,nnot do that, you shift to the right. it did not work for romney. i am not sure how far to the right chris christie could turn, assuming he runs. or, rob portman. records. solid i don't think they can do the metamorphosis quickly and not shoot themselves in the foot.

you will see a realm of voices. some on the right and on the more moderate side. we are going to come out with one nomine -- nominee. >> i love the campaign slogan, navarro -- therapy, liquor, leadership. have these two answers. parties are?e the saidnot top what anna about liquor or therapy. having two parties that are trying to figure out where the soul is, the fight for

that on the democratic side will look different than the republican side. i the democratic side, -- mean, the irony, and you will hear hillary clinton supporters say this, was that she was more populist. >> absolutely. definitely. not even close. not in campaign mode and wrote a book about foreign policy. you do not hear about that. this is a huge debate in her campaign. a lot of advisors were against it. you will see the fight, it hillary clinton runs. she is likely to be the nominee. i think she is running and will be the nominee. you will see a hard effort to pull her to the left, even though it will be largely

rhetorical, unless she is already there. the language of economic populism in the democratic party has changed. --t has been to extensional substantial from when obama got elected. there has been a lot of discussion about the system not working for everybody and you see it working with elizabeth warren. it was interesting to see her campaigning for martha coakley. hillary clinton was out of her comfort zone and it did not end great. she will have moments like that. on the republican side, there is the media primary. we are all writing various versions of who is up and down. mitt romney is not running. i cannot keep protecting that he

is. nor can i pretend that hillary clinton is responsible for democratic losses and mitt romney is responsible for republicans. debate on the republican side has shifted to the right. what will become a major issue is immigration. you saw this play out in the primaries. when it comes to what paul described as a void that has and you haden on it a catchall of stuff. you had the border crisis, the sil,ened economy, i ebola. you saw numbers going sideways in these races. , the republican

party is about to have a big definitional moment on this. to dok obama is about something through executive action that will please neither side of his party and will be where republican stakeout around stop. -- stake out ground. >> hi, i am sarah. ccourtt the mo school. as a voter from florida -- >> sorry. >> it is rough. goot of my friends do not out to vote because they feel frustrated by the name-calling and slandering. they were turned off. candidates, i don't think anyone was enamored. >> anyone who met the candidates would agree.

maggie, the day of the election, i think rick scott needs it out. out.eaks it song, ike the country shaved my legs for this. shave.d a reason to used to beinge disciplined and going out and voting for our guide, even -- guy, even if it means holding our nose. question? >> almost. was in a lot of that part, at least with the younger

generation -- i just graduated college -- it was like seeing issues get put aside. not the bestald is newspaper and rose around names. flying.s are this blending of obama and pushedlling is getting more partisan. i am interested in hearing your thoughts, looking at 2016 and further into the future, if that is possible, on how you think and it's would have to approach -- how you think candidates would have to approach this. >> our candidates in florida are not a microcosm. presidentialat the candidates look like, we should start crying. >> let me ask maggie.

about thesomething harshness in this campaign. i blame lots of things on citizens united and some of it in the congressional races, the outside money. almost all of the advertising was negative. >> yes. >> there was a turnoff going on and you see it in the generation. your generation. they got really inspired in 2008. watch, theazing to thing, the sarah palin line. can you talk about it? >> younger voters dropped off dramatically. that when obama got --

and we talked about this -- that they had changed the dynamics of the electorate. that is not the case. the midterm is different than the presidential. it is citizens united. we saw a republican candidates getting by with a suitcase and $50 in their bank account if they had a super pac. ran against mitt romney by people supporting obama were devastating. president obama -- look, you see this in 2010 -- you have less polarized house districts. makings the way to win, the other guy's numbers negative. is involvedc paul

with ran effective and devastating ads against mitt romney and his time at bain , which was his private equity firm. became, among reporters mitt romney killed a guy. that was what one of the ad said. >> he gave her cancer. >> right. not white like that. -- quite like that. not far off. >> i will defend that. >> i want you to defend vicious campaigning. >> i will. -- and, and his allies frankly, some people did not like priorities usa.

the approval rating was not great and unemployment was high. the campaign identified mitt romney as the likely nominee. there was a moment where they thought jon huntsman would be. >> eyeblink and it passed. "kill kmitt"oped a strategy. some of the ads ran against romney were devastating and some of the ads romney supporters ran against gingrich were devastating. romneyer pac backing gingrich withnst tiffanythe color of ring boxes as a knock on his wife. they were rough. -- i'med newt gingrich

not laughing because it is funny -- they tied newt gingrich to china's "one-child flows quote "one-child" policy. that became the cycle. everybody's favorable-unfavorable was at 50% or negative. atch daniels had net-negative. that is ok. when --better than hat than pat quinn. it is starting early and is becoming ugly. it is baked in. the race to the bottom used to

get punished by voters. they would punish the person leading the race. now, it is excepted. >> it is outside groups. now, you don't have to blame the candidate. i don't want you to defend comparative advertising. that says, "i ad want to raise your taxes," it is true. >> any good negative ad has to be factual. two negative ads that i thought were across the line. david perdue was running against michelle, who was the head of the points of light foundation. she worked for a former republican president for a long time.

foundation gave money to terrorist. they did not fund terrorism. it was not on bush's agenda. it was despicable. it is the only one i can think of, honestly. 100% of our ads were negative. more.ied to run one i love negative ads. love, love, love negative ads. if they are factual, they are great. they are really good. it is not that i am mean. toughen up. you guys are on twitter. you say file things. -- vile things. got said, whyt ig

don't you drink rat poison and jump in a wood tripper -- chipper. i was happy to retweet. not do it. there is science behind this. there is research on this. the more negative the campaign, the higher voter interest. edwin edwards, who is in a the federalntly of penitentiary, was running against david duke, recently of the clue" and. klan.klux it was the highest turnout i have ever seen. >> you can get pretty high turnout. edwards linedwin

is that my opponent is so dumb that it takes two hours to watch 60 minutes. >> they do it because it works. all the political science suggests no. run anodyne they issue-less ads. i can procreate. what the hell? who cares? >> political science on this is mixed. that is for another day. did we go over 10 minutes? can we go the full half-hour? we will go till 7:10. >> i am liz murphy. like in theooking

spring when you have take ruse have ted cruz anding or rand paul running the debt ceiling. what does mitch mcconnell do? >> hillary clinton gets a big smile. what do you think? let's take that and the immigration question. i agree with paul. the republican have done the anti-obama thing and i do not see how they reverse it. mitch mcconnell has a hard job. harder than before. he has to keep the caucus in line with the presidential candidates. while doing that, explain what your party is going to do about immigration. will theo that, you

president. mcconnell istch one the most undervalued politicians. do not underestimate mitch mcconnell. ,e is more strategic, wiley and, frankly, good at what he does than people give him credit for. everybody understands that some of the senators may be running for president and there are a number of stars coming who are going to end up being pragmatic amperage and the gap the between where some stand and others stand. ie, she iser, jon unique. by supported and was helped

-bird and the moss-covered stones. that is what mccain calls ted cruz and what ted cruz calls mccain. they have a lot of love for each other. elected -- he has not been elected -- we assume he nol, he said there would be shutdown. that sending a message on and he plans to be tough. will he be able to actually implement that edict? we do not know. my money says, "yes." i think he is a lot more

impressive and can be a lot more persuasive. this is what the guy wanted to do his entire life. he is not going to let ted cruz mess with him. him runt going to let .im a mock -- amuck there is not a lot etc. to do to get things done. immigration, good grief, i hate where the issue is right now. i hate everything about it. i support comprehensive immigration reform. i think some of us think that there is a chance, with a republican house and senate, of them probably together some sort of pragmatic agreement. it is not going to be what we saw come out of the senate 1.5 years ago.

it is something that will pass the house. it is not going to be something that everybody likes. i think it will be something that has sticks and stones -- carrots and sticks. i think the issue of executive action will drive some people really crazy and mad and it will be difficult to control that because, i do not know any legislature that like the executive doing things that they think should be done legislatively. here is the problem. everybody is in a box. obama has little, if any, credibility left with the latino community because he has been making promises and saying, "wait your turn." there are other political priorities. rahm emanuel doesn't want me to do it. whatever reason, he has been

making thomas's since he was -- promises since he was a candidate. on the other side, obama has zero credibility, republicans are at negative numbers on immigration. you have a constituency of hasgration advocates that no credibility. you have obama, who has run out of time and excuses. luis was going to change them so to a white house fence. -- himself to a white house fence. they may send the dogs. think, you know, i think the smart thing for the white house to do is to write down what they intend the

executive action today. peopleknows and it has nervous because we do not know how big or little it will be. write it down, show to everybody, tell the latino community, tell the immigration "this is what i intend to do if republicans do not act." you have until august to get this done. if the republicans do not get her act together, he wins. if the republicans get something passed, he wins. action, thatcutive is the easiest out. say, "we are not going to do this because he killed the chances and we are not going to try." if he delayed it and bought himself some time, which he would need to do with the hispanic congress -- caucus. if he did that, there would be

such a burden and pressure on republicans to act. if he does executive action, there is no pressure on republicans. >> you wanted to come in? >> i want to add an addendum to the debt ceiling. anna is right and you are likely to see more fight play out in immigration and less on debt ceiling. paul are gearing up for presidential and are pragmatic. they have been gearing up to appeal to big-money donors. the government shutdown was a mess and had the donor community up in arms. disestablishment money towards primaries. immigration is another issue. >> the government shutdown issue

came up in every government -- republican debate. my friends, a republican they aach, was -- my friend, republican debate coach, was working on 10 campaigns. know, at every turn, in every debate, the issue of the shutdown came out and they had to defend it. newly elected senators understand that it was not a good thing. action, i think he will do it and it has a trigger. it does not all take effect right away. i do not see how he has any choice what to do it now. -- choice but to do it now. losing on gun control made this a redline now.

he cannot hold back. the trigger could be, this will not all take effect instantly. >> it is like net neutrality, which he talked about, where he is leaning forward for strong executive action. he was four-leaning. -- forward-leaning. you can accuse barack obama of a lot of things. not dumb. i am certain, before new year's eve, you'll have a strong executive order on immigration. it is going to happen. you, so that we can get a few more people in before we close. >> thank you for coming. you talked about the republicans having to appeal to the right and the democrats having to

appeal to the left and populist messages. what will that mean for everyone else and the large chunk of people who do not identify with either one or who want a centrist candidate? >> hold on. grab the mic. >> i am richard, a senior. i have a question about citizens united i came out. -- that came out. have doubled and most have been negative. how will that affect political campaigns in the future? will it be more and more negative with no punishment for the race to the bottom? >> do we have a mic on the side? >> this is directed towards paul. i am a freshman and a self-identified blue-dog democrat. i saw the republicans winning as

a victory for her america as a democrat. gridlock and it is the republicans versus obama without a third-party. what is your view on that? >> a great question. all are great questions. lightning round. a, and then,aul, ann maggie. >> it will be gridlock on steroids. campaignedwho won for gridlock. ted cruz ran. the huge and chronicle said that he would be a moderate. -- houston chronicle said that he would be a moderate. a landslide. stockmaned running

against cornyn. he was not out there killing it for george p. i think it is wrong. >> let me go through it. senator cruz did not lie to the people of texas. he said that he would lay down in front of a train to stop obama and obamacare. the houston chronicle announced their endorsement. denounced their endorsement. -- as called for the impeachment of the president. i quote, "he has become a dictator." >> it doesn't count. elect,cotton, senator

voted to shut down the government and said he did not regret it. the new center of elect from electa said -- senator from montana said he signed. thom tillis is a new senator-elect from carolina and ,aid he calls our president "king george." ran an impressive race and was ranked one of the 10 most conservative members of the house by the national journal. these people did not lie. maybe they did. they are talented and principled people. one of their principles is not compromised.

-- compromise. as we say in texas, "don't key g and leg -- pee on my le tell me it is raining." >> when you are a senator, you behave like a senator. moore understands that it is difficult to represent one state.t versus a purple >> can we take up any of these questions? >> if i remembered it. you will have to wait until the general. i'm not sure there is going to -- hope thatarly hillary gets a left challenge. herhat will assert

centrism. that is why i want a left-wing challenge. >> you will see a lot of centrism. you will get your wish. >> you will see a lot of policy. >> that is true. >> on citizens united, it is not that they are more negative. they might be. there are so many. the conversation is moving away from facebook. the first contested election your country ever had was thomas jefferson versus john adams. adams an called manlyhrodite who lacks virgins of strength and womanly virtues of kindness. that jefferson was half-black. negative thane

anything now. we like negative campaigns. >> definitely true. >> the patriotic thing to do. >> there will be a lot of populism. i think the working-class vote is key to both parties. i think there will be fake populism and real populism. the very last question, 15 second answers, can we do it? paul will do negative ads for you. >> this is for you. you mentioned the president will be acting on net neutrality. asked as an activist more than a policymaker. he encouraged people to put pressure on congress and did not

push the agenda. the grand strategy is to suppress the crisis rather than head off the crisis. i don't think that anything we have done with the ukraine has changed rush' laois and. a's calculations. extent that the president continues to act, and that is the nerd of, -- the narrative, to the extent that he is a cheerleader driven by events, how will he do? >> i think he is showing, since the election, as i mentioned, real leadership.

i cannot let the ukraine go. i have spent a lot of time there. that we get so narcissistic and we think that everything in the world happens because of us. it is a big probe in washington that obama was week and that is why we move into crimea. ia.moved into georg that did not stop him. was atin, when there soviet union, they rolled into budapest when eisenhower was president. i think obama has caused real pain to putin. [indiscernible] >> that is correct. as it was when eisenhower.

eisenhower. with my point about all of that is not for the president is wrong. he has come to the right place. the optics and style has been typical no-drama obama. calm and a lot of voters misread that as not answering the trumpet. that was part of the critique voters had for the president and why republicans were energized. >> i want to close by saying two things. -- nobody needs therapy or liquor. this may be the most civic-minded panel. if politics were more entertaining, turnout would be higher.

i salute all three and invite you back here in november of 2016. thank you all so much. [applause] >> on the next washington obama's president intentions of using executive action on immigration policy. we discuss the items that remain on the agenda and look at the salaries and perks of new members entering congress.

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