from vietnam, from india, from mexico, from countries all around the world take the oath of allegiance to the united states of america. it's an inspiring and heart-warming occasion, and of course many of them have taken that oath while wearing the uniform of the united states military where they have served with honor and dignity as they await the approval of their citizenship. one of the first bills that i passed when i came to the senate was with teddy kennedy from massachusetts, the liberal lion of the senate. what we did is we passed a simple piece of legislation that expedited the process whereby immigrants who serve in the military can become american citizens. that was one of the first bills that i was a part of that passed when i came to the senate.

and of course these naturalization ceremonies represent a proud day, not just for these new americans but for all americans and for our nation as a whole where we welcome new citizens with open arms to this country to find a better life for themselves and their family and in the process for all of us. but the president has now threatened -- and he's the one who has made the threat. he said if you don't do it on my timetable, according to the terms i prefer, i'm going to do it myself. he said that time and time again, and there is no president who has abused the authority to issue executive orders more than the current occupant of the white house. all presidents have issued executive orders since george washington, but no one has held congress and the constitution in such contempt that they feel

like congress is irrelevant except when i need them to appropriate money or help them serve my purposes. but the president is going to take steps in the coming days that would send men and women like those i have mentioned who come playing by the rules, pursuing legal immigration to the united states, he's going to basically tell those folks get to the back of the line. we are the most generous country in the world when it comes to naturalization. almost a million people a year. but the president is going to tell the people who have been waiting patiently in line, playing by the rules, get in the back of the line. i'm going to put millions of people ahead of you in front of the line who have not played by the rules. well, it's a sure way to send a message to the rest of the world that our country does not enforce its own laws, which is

an essential part of who we are, where everybody from the humblest to the most exalted in our country are all bound by the same laws. whether you're president of the united states or whether you're one of these new americans who take an oath to uphold and defend the laws and the constitution of the united states. and i have to tell you, because i come from a big state that sees disproportionate negative consequences to illegal immigration, this is a sure way to continue to reward the criminal organizations that get rich on the status quo. you know, the 60,000 unaccompanied children that came from central america that were part of this humanitarian crisis we had last summer? well, they continue to come and the criminal organizations that continue to profit from this money-making operation, they're continuing to get rich.

and it encourages children to take a perilous journey for many of whom it ends in kidnapping, sexual assault or death to get to the u.s. border. and you know, the worst part of this is we just had a national election, as we do every two years. i have been here when my side of the aisle wins elections. we had a pretty good election. i have been here when we have lost, like in 2008, but that doesn't mean we can give up on our job, which is to legislate. and one of the saddest parts about what the president is going to do is he will poison the well and make it much, much harder if not impossible for us to do the sorts of things that a bipartisan, bicameral commitment exists to do, which is to make serious progress on our broken

immigration system. i'm not sure whether we will be able to do as much as i would like or as much as the senator from illinois would like to do, but we all know that the status quo is unacceptable, it's unacceptable. so the president seems intent on provoking a constitutional crisis by adopting policies that he previously said were illegal. he said he didn't have the authority to do it time and time and time again, and now he has totally done a flip-flop 180 degrees, saying i have discovered i now do have the authority. i was wrong when i said i didn't have the authority to do it. and he seems intent on exacerbating partisan polarization and weakening democratic accountability. we're the ones who are responsible for making these decisions, and we are accountable to our electorate, to our voters, and unfortunately it's going to make it much harder for us to make necessary

progress on a number of different matters next year. well, the president says we haven't acted on his timetable in a way that he prefers, so he is going to go it alone, but just think for a moment about the larger implications of that argument. every president in history has clashed with congress. that's part of what we do. that's what the separation of powers is all about. it forces us to build consensus as opposed to pursuing our own agendas. and that's important, that's essential. failing to get your way in congress doesn't mean the president can simply override the congress with the stroke of his pen. there is broad support for passing a series of commonsense immigration reform bills. i know the speaker has said that publicly. the majority leader in the house, congressman mccarthy i

believe believes that. i certainly do, and the incoming majority leader, senator mcconnell, has told me he does as well. but what there is no support for other than purely partisan support is what the president is proposing to do. so, in other words, if the president were willing to negotiate in good faith and, yes, you know when your proposal is i want everything i want or i want nothing, you frequently get nothing. you always get nothing because nobody gets everything they want, and it requires genuine compromise, and it requires hard work, and nothing sustainable or meaningful will ever be done in this place without bipartisan support. we have learned that lesson time and time again, but the president seems absolutely allergic, allergic to good-faith negotiating and genuine

compromise. in fact, i'm not even sure he likes the job he ran so hard to get elected to because that is part of his job, is to work with congress in a bipartisan way to achieve genuine consensus and compromise, where possible. well, he is claiming now apparently on friday in las vegas a right that no other president has claimed, and in fact he himself said he did not have time and time and time again, and i know the white house counsel's office is preparing a convoluted legal case to justify the president's actions. most americans will correctly view this as an abuse of power, an abuse of power.

earlier, i asked the president to think with the human costs of encouraging another massive wave of illegal immigration. my state is disproportionately affected, given our 1,200-mile common border with mexico. and it's not just people coming from mexico. it's coming from central america and around the world. but i urged him to think about all of the men and women and children from guatemala, from honduras and el salvador who have suffered terrible violence and indeed some death during their long journey through mexico from central america, and i urged him to think again about whether what he is doing inadvertently rewards and helps fund the criminal organizations that are creating such havoc in mexico and in parts of central america. well, i can only hope the president will reconsider. certainly, i'm not optimistic

because now the white house is leaking press reports about this announcement on friday, but i believe his unilateral action, which is unconstitutional and illegal, will deeply harm our prospects for immigration reform. it will be deeply harmful to our nation's tradition of the rule of law and deeply harmful to the future of our democracy. many democrats believe, as i do, that this is a mistake. the president should heed their advice, stop making threats and respect the constitution. madam presiden

>> understand the fairness of it all. this will be a relief to many whose families are being torn apart by this broken system. remember, for my republicans friends, who are always , iferned about money republicans in the house would allow past here many months ago,

the past overwhelmingly and it would save and use $1 trillion in relief and. $1 trillion. is not aive action substitute for congressional action that he is doing what he can his authority and we have to finish this job. the first thing we have to do is fix our borders. senateill to pass the and the house we would have a border so secure. billions of dollars are in that legislation. when the president decides to do an executive order , the vigor heig can to do something just like this.

the fact that he wants to do something on immigration and is being forced should not stop us from doing our job, funding government. >> if the president does wave thinked flag, what do you the best way for republicans to retaliate would be? >> i do like words like retaliation. the american people chose divided government and that is what we have for the next two years and that is what we had for the next four. all of this inflammatory language is not helpful. we want to makerogress with the american people. it is my belief that a congress entirely controlled by republicans is more likely to make progress then we have for the last four years. >> how y fix it since you are opposed to it? years congress

and president has gone back and forth over the funding. this is not unusual, we have different priorities and at the did of the day have to work something out to make progress. how would you stop the president from taking executive action? >> it is always appropriate to usthe power of the first but the president has it -- an important trump card cled the veto. there will be ongoing negotiation to fund the government both this year and next year about priorities and this is not unusual. do have fferent priorities and somehow we will have to work out things. just becau the american people elected divided government doesn't mean the expect us not to do anything and we will not

get everything exactly the way we want and he will get everything exactly the way he wants, that is why we have compromise. oe will do the best we can change things an we think the last six years have not been good for america. the only tool we have is the power of the purse. we will have plenty of discussions about our priorities and his. jehecurities secretary johnson talked about homeland security at the press club. unaccompaniedn minors from central america. this event was hosted by the democrat network. >> good morning everybody.

you for being here rosenbergi am simon and we are excited today to welcome back the secretary of homeland security, this is the second time we have been able to of melandecretary security for an important talk on our border and immigration enforcement. we're been blessed to have many of the folks on the front lines on these touch issues come and address our 21st century border initiative. here in part representing this project we begin four years ago that was borout of a basic

sense that the conversation happening in the elite media about what was happening on the border does not reflect the true reality of what was happenin there. marriedky enough to be to a wonderful woman who grew up in new mexico, i spent a lot of time in thsouthwestern part of the united states and is somebody who is been part of the debate frothe beginning i felt there s a need to try to bring more data back. the truth to how we would fix a broken immigration system. i'm proud that over this. of time we've released many reports and writtenp ed's and conducted many events here in town. we have been directly involved in some of the more important advances we have seen in the

relationship over the last few importantuding the administration decision about tourism in 2011 and 2012. we ao, i would be proud to say led the effort to strip the border service out of the senate bill when it moved to the house which is something i thought was an enlightened -- an enlightened moment. effortsalso involved in which was not well reported to it increase the funding for customs agents which is

for, the we fought first time we had an increase of customs agents without an increase in border patrol. that was another sign of how important the trade aspect of this relationship is. who know me and heard me talk about this before i want our guest to reflect upon the five things we often talk the most about. i did not into this the enormity of keeping our border safe just given the mobility of our country this is an extraordinary undertaking. if you look at the border between the u.s. and mexico today it contains the busiest land crossing in the world.

i often say that in english we call it the border and in frontera which is what i think is a far more accurate word. it is not the edge of our relationship it is the cenr. it may be the most single most valuable piece of infrastructure the united states has today. and iwill discuss today just want to reflect on why i think that in future years will look back at this obama era and among the important policy successes of the administration has be the management of the border region and immigration enforcement. down along the side of the u.s.-mexico order.

the two largest cities on the border are the two safest large cities in all of the united states. flow itself is way down. net immigration is zero under the current administration. underclinton it was high bush it was 400,000, during the enre obama presidency there has been no increase in the undocumented population. mething that will become a major part of the debate going foard if the president takes executive action as expected is that starting in 2011 with the morton strategy this administration began to in a smart way it's

enforcement status in the administration. there also putting up resources to create a more powerful torn -- turn on the border. while althgh security gains have been made with seen an extraordinary increase in trade. tradeocene a double in since the beginning of the obama administration. it has been in a sure the very economic story, one that is the bulk of the worke are doing and today mexico stands as the third largest trading partner in the world. mexico buys twice as much from the united states as china does with 1/15 the population. i thinke will also

come to know that the management of the micro processes this year , while it was obviously tough, i think we will come to see this as a success and not something other than that. i think it will be marked down signs of the actual our ability to manage this complex thing known as the border and to work cooperatively with our neighbors to the soh. the basic premise of the work we have been doing is that we have made tremendous progress, this is a tough issue. -- 200 miles lon

ng. involved.fficulties the politics have been as brutal they come and despite all of this we have seen tremendous progress. heing to tell that story in the coming months if we are about to have a big debate around immigration it will be a critical part in a role that we will try to play to make sure it is told right. to reflect on all this we have a special guest today. hnson doesn't really need a major introduction, all of you know he has made his mark as a forceful, thoughtful and able

secretary of homeland security but when my wife whgoes to work there every day and enjoys think theo much, i one thing people don't understand is that this may be thhardest job in washington. the scale of what they deal with every day to emergency response and all the issues we discussed today the incredible folio of really tough issues that are super important for the country. we were lucky the president was ohnson. sway jeh please join me in welcoming him. [applause] >> thank you very much, sin. the number of people in this town willing to say nice things are getting smaller and smler.

for caitlin's service as secretary. i want to speak briefly and then i will be happy to take some questions. people often refer to the incredible folio that we have in the department of komen security , the diverse range of missions from counterterrorism to hurricanes and aviation security. asked, was it a mistake to create such a large department, is it too big to manage a my issue -- my answer to that is you have to look where all the issues and components were before 9/11. spread across literally dozens of agencies and number of

agencies, no one official isl responsible for homeland security, border security and so forth. months,hin the last 11 i have seen dealing with the situation we had somewhere, the virtue of having one conference table the officials of our government responsible for avtion facility -- security, port security to deal in a comp rancid strategic way, the various situations that arrive and that occur. is one cabinet level official responsible for the

land-c-border-error security of this nation as well as protection from the homeland in a number of specs. general towardn a risk-based strategy. most notable example of that is tsa. t.s.a. has t.s.a. precheck. a loof people here are a member of t.s.a. precheck, i'm sure. submit some information on background. you get to the airport, there's a shorter line. less aviation security screening when you get there. it enables us to free up resources to devote toward the class of individls we know less about at the airports.

so t.s.a. has become popular with the public. it's the agency of the government that the public deals with the most. at the same time we've developed and grown t.s.a. precheck. it's an amazing fact i like to repeat to audiences. just in the first three months of calendar year 2014. t.s.a. has seized from the carry-on luggage of aviation passengers people getting ready to get on the airplane that you fly, 1,855 firearms in carry-on luggage including 1,471 of which were loaded, over 3,000 various different types of weapons seized by t.s.a. in the first months of 2014 alone. i salute the work of this

organization. there is a lotf misunderstanding, misapprehensions about the state of our border security right now, particularly the southern border. i'm more devoted to the trsparency in terms of the numbers of people removed in the cose of a fiscal year. i think there's a fair amount of misunderstanding and mystery surrounding the numbers, so'm committed to more transparency and we're developing better ways to make at happen. , in fact, the case that under president obama in particular and over the last three presidents, president clinton,

bush, and obama, we've dedicated an unprecedented amount of personnel, technology, to border security, particularly the southern border. i gave a speech at csis about a month ago when i talked about our border security efforts, the number of additional patrol agents which has gone from 8,600 in the year 2005 to over 18,000 now. the day president obama took office, there were approximately 15,700 border patrol agencies. there are now over 18,000. the amount of fence has gone from 267 in 69 to over 700 now. we've gone over the last 15

years from two 84 vessels. all sorts of surveillance technology, mole surveillance technology, night vision technology, and this investment by our presidents, the congress with the support of the american public has shown results. a lot of illegal migration is driven by push-pull factors relating to economics, the economy in the countryou're leaving, the economy of the country you're going to. very clearly, the violence, poverty in countries where migrants leave from. there is an aspect to illegal migration clearly. but in fiscal year 2000, apprehensions on the southern border, which are an indicator of total attempts to cross the border, reached a high of 1.643 million. the last several years, it's been down 70% from that to around 400 to 500,000 a year.

as simon ned, the population undocumented in this country reached a high of 1.2 million in 2006. today it's now around, according to pew estimates, 11.3 million. it has stopped growing. it has actually decreased over the last severalears, it has stopped growing for the first time since the 19 80's. 55% of which were just in the rio grande valley sector alone. i saw the situation myself in a number ovisits to south texas to mcallen to new mexico to phoenix. it was clearly humanitarian aspect tour response, but we responded aggressively to the spike this past summer. an aggressive public areness campaign about the dangers of the trip for child -- for a child,nd the numbers today of unaccompanied children crossing are at the lowest they've been in almost two years. the high point w june 10, 2014. and it dropped dramatically om that point forward to the point where the number of unaccoanied children crossing the sohern border is in the rio grande sector in particular the lowest it's been in almost two years. all this is affected by push and pull factors, but we're determined that we need to do more ourselves for border

security. i'm concerned about the possibility of another rise in illegal migration. much of it is seasonal. it begins to climb each year at the beginning of t year, peaks in the early summer and drops off when it gets hot in the late summer so we're concernedbout another rise.

and we have to depart agait another rise in illegal migration of the type we saw this past mmer. so we have to be aware of th fact that the ecomy in this country is getting better. so we're committed to sustaining the infrastructure that was put in place. we announced seval days ago the opening of another detention facility in dilly, texas, that has the capablity to detain adults with their children. we've announced the closure of artesia last summer on the campus of fletsy in new mexico. that was intended to be temporary. we announced the closure of it. but we're building more detention infrastructure. some people are critical of that. in my viewit is essential that we have this infrastructure in place to guard against additional rises in illegal migration.

ice does it its thing, the ast guard does its thing. for investigations to support the other tw to bring to bear the resources to support those things. i've directed the creation of border security metrics that will definpublicly how we define border security. i will say this.

ashe president has said ny times, legislative action is always preferable but we've waited now for years for the congress to act and the congress has not acted. in 2013 the senate passed a comprehensive bill by a vote of 68-3 . a bipartisan coalition in support of immigration reform. the house did not act. the house did not act in 2013. house has not acted in 2014. the president has waited. in the meantime we've identified

a number of executive actions that we can take within our existing legal authority to fix what everyone recognizes is a broken immigration system. and so our reforms will be comprehensive. i am satisfied that our reforms are within our existing legal authorities and they will address a nuer of things including border security. the president is committed to border security. the president is committed to reducing illegal migration in the future. so we'll be announcing a set of comprehensive reforms all within our existing legal authority t fix the broken immigration system. so with that, i'm happy to answer questions. >> thank you. [applause] >> iyou would like to get your questions into the queue we have

cards on the table. if you do not have cards because people have been aggressive but we will try to find you more. we are going to take a few questions now but all the questions will be -- i will be reading them. most of them, except for alicia caldwell i don't think i can read her handwriting. she is here somewhere. we've already gotten some questions. let me start with a couple from me and then we'll dive into the public questions. first of all, in 2011, d.h.s., john morton, issued something called the morton memo which set new priorities for removal in the u.s. has itorked? has it been successful? are we safer today because of it? >> i'm very familiar with the morton memo.

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feel free to take a seat. i love you back. last week i had the honor of being sworn in for a second term as president of the united states. during my inaugural address i talked about how making progress on the defining challenges of our time does not require us to ignoreevery debate or every difference wmay have. but it does require us to find common ground and move forward in common purpose. .t requireus to act i know that some issues will be harder to lift than others.

me debates will be more contentious. that is to be expected. the reason i came here today is because of a challenge where the differences are wendling. we are -- where broad consensus is emerging and where a call for heard cannot -- can be coming from across america. i'm here today because time has ,ome for common sense comprehensive immigration reform. now is the time. now is the time. [crowd chanting] most amicansause

agree that it is time to fix the system that has been broken for way too long. i am here because business leaders, faith leaders, labor anders, law enforcement, leaders from both parties are coming together to y now is the time to find a better way to welcome the striving hopeful immigrants who still see america as the london of opportunity. to do this so we can strengthen our economy. and strengthen our country's future. think about it we define ourselves as a nation of immigrants. that is who we are in our bones. we see in those who come here from every corner of the globe, the has always been one of our greatest strengths that keeps our workforce young, it keeps our country on the cutting edge, and it has helped

build the greatest economic engine the world has ever known. after all, immigrants help to start businesses like google, and yahoo!, they created entire new industries that in turn created new jobs and new prosperity. in recent years, one in four high-tech stt-ups in america were founded by immigrants. one in four new small business owners were immigrants, including right here in nevada. lks who came here seeking opportunity and now want to share that opportunity with other american but we all know th today we have an immigration system that is out of date and badly broken. a system that is holding us back, instead of helping us to grow our economy and strengthen our middle-class right now, we have 11 million undocumented immigrants in america. 11 million men and women from

all over the world who live their lives in the shadows. yes, they broke rules, they crossed the border illegally, maybe they overstayed their visas. those are the facts, nobody diutes them. but these 11 million men and women are here. many of them have en here for years. and the overwhelming majority of these individuals are not looking for any trouble. they are contributing members of the community. they are looking out for their families, looking out for their neighbors. they are woven into the fabric of our lives. every day, like the rest of us, they go out and try toarn a living. often, they do that in the shadow economy, a place where employers may offer them less than the minimum wage, or make them work overtime without extra pay. and when that ppens, it not just that for them, it is bad for the entire economy.

becae all the businesses that are trying to do the right thing, hiring people legally, paying decent wage, following the rule they are the ones that suffer. they have to compete against companies that arereaking the rules. and the wages and working conditions of american workers are threatened, too. so if we are truly committed to strengthening our middle-class and providing more ladders of opportunity to those who are willing to work hard to make it into the middle-class, we have got to fix the system. we have to make sure that every business and every worker in america is playing by the same set of rules. we have to bring the shadow economy into the light so that everyone is held accountable. businesses for who they hire, and immigrants for getting on the right side of the law. that is common sense. that is why we need comprehensive immigration

reform. [applause] the is another economic reason why we need reform. it is not just about the folks that come here illegally, having the effect on our economy. it is also about the books that try to come here legally but have a hard time doing so, and the fact that has on our economy. right now, there are brilliant students from all over the world sitting in classrooms at our top universities. they are earning degrees in the elds of the future, like engineering and computer science. but oncehey finish school, once they're in that diploma, there is a good chance they will have to leave our country. think about that. intel was starting with thhelp of an immigrant who studied here and stayed here. histogram the starting with the

lp of an immigrant who studied here and then stayed here. right now in one of those classrooms, there is a student wrestling with how to turn their big idea, there intel or instagram in a big business. we are giving them the skills to figure that out, but then we are going to turn around and tell them to start the business and eate those jobs in china, or india, or mexico, or someplace else. that is not how you growew industries in america. that is how you give new industries to our competitors. that is why we need comprehensive immigration reform. [applause] now, during my first term, we took steps to try to patch up some of the worst cracks in the system.

first, we strengthen security at the borders so that we could finally stem the tide of illegal immigrants. we put one puts on the ground on the southern border than in any other time in history. today, a legal crossings are down nearly 80% from their peak in 2000. [applause] second, we focused our enforcement efforts on criminals who are here illegally and in danger our communities. today, dortations of criminals is at its highest level ever. [applause] third, we ok up the cause of e dreamers. the young people who were brought to this country -- [applause] young people who have grown up here, have their lives here, teachers here. we said if you are able to meet basic criteria, like pursuinan education, then we will consider offering you the chance to come out of the shadows so that you can live here and work here illegally.

so that you can finally have the dignity of knowing you belong. but because this change not permanent, we need congress to act, and not just on the dream act. we need congress to act on a comprehensive approach that finally deals with the 11 million documented immigrants who are in the country right now. that is what we need. [applause] now, the good news is, or the first time in many years, republicans and democrats seem ready to tackle this problem together. [applause]

members of both parties in both chambers are actively working on a solution. yesterda a bipartisan group of senators announced their principles for comprehensive immigration reform which are very mh in line with the principles of a proposed and campaigned on for the st few years. so at this moment it looks like there is a genuine dire to get this done soon. and that is very encouraging. but this time, action must follow. we cannot allow immigration reform to get bogged down in an endless debate. have been debating this for a ve long time. it is not as if we do not know technically what needs to be done. as a consequence to help move this process along, today i am out my ideas for immigration reform, and my hope

is this provides some key markers to members of congress as the craft a bill, because the ideas i am pposing have traditionally been supported by both democrats like ted kennedy, anrepublicans like president george w. bush. you do not get that match up very often. we know where the consensus should be. of course, there wilbe rigorous debate about many of the details. and every stakeholder should engage in real give-and-take i the process. but it is imrtant for us to recognize that the foundation for bipartisan action is already in place, and if congress is unable to move forward in a timely fashion, i will send up a bill based on my proposal and insist that they vote on it right away. [applause]

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d wli to wo hard to do it. and is wilngo edge tt legiance toufl. thank you. god bless you. and d bless the united states of america. [applause] ["stars and stripes forever" playing] ♪ this has reduce lineage. it comes from parliament. if you have seen the proceedings of the house of common they say something similar. it is a thinly veiled approach to trying to be polite to someone that you do not really care for. at least in the house where the are 400 35 members, a lot of these men and wom do not ev know who each other are when they are saying my good

friend. it is kind of disingenuous. , there is only 100. they probably know each other. at least there is a better chance of them being at least acquaintances if not actually good friends. >> david mark on the world of litical terminology. sunday night at 8 p.m. eastern and pacific on c-span. the president addresses the nati tomorrow night on the topic of immigration. he will outline his planned executive tion on the issue. live coverage at 8 p. easte here on c-span. >> the miami book fair is this weekend. joins at 10 a.m. eastern for a live coverage on book tv on c-span two. you will see best-selling authors talking about their nonfiction books and we will take your calls, e-mails, and tweets. authors include john dean.

television writer and producer in norman lear. and cornell west. buy all the saturday and sunday at 10 a.m. eastern. the republican governors association is meeting in florida this week. today's session included a panel of governors that have been touted as ssible 2016 presidential candidates. they are indiana governor mike pence, louisiana governor bobby jindal, texas governor rick perry, and wisconsin governor scott walker. in this rt of the discussion, they address the immigration policies. this is half an hour. >> your ego. press." "meet the

chuck todd. these are the only governors that expressed an interest in running for president in 2016. that is why they are up here. any other governor, governor christie, i assume that means you ar not appear anymore. any more. off in ack things minute. notecards.d be some there will be people on the sides collecting. we will go for about an hour and we will kick o with talking about some issues of the day. bere is some news that made made on immigration. i want to start with three of our five governors here have all served in congress.

and so let me start with you. you have served in congress. howhould congressional leadership respond to the prident's action that he is going to announce tomorrow night , what would you advise congressional leadership to respond? my view is ty should have beent this right away. s and is a heard he was going to do it. my sense is they should have asked him to put it off but to make it clear that they will not listen to the people that have no interest in a solution. and in our steveinhio, weood aproblems and ofred sutionshich iwh weid and h a grafyg n. thats at wld have done. i tnk sulha bn tryi tpa aie. ickly ou he sat if we haomcoonhings. t'haerhiou weo t edo ison anymo wells.

everhi cti me e ay we're not ia posionhe w argogo walk youave idliicolutio. no to look a when ronald rean y up with a plan, a yowa to work wh the president when y can. i think theris mta to mo fwa like this ilerly i thin cooler heads need to prevail. it is ner too late until it is too late area that is what i would suggest. >> governor pence, you were in house leadership area there is lots of stuff being talked about. the power of the pse. it couldet up a showdown that could make for some ugly politics. >> it would be a profound mistake to overturn american immigration law with a stroke of a pen. i truly do. issues of this

magnitude should always be relved with the consent of the government. the american people change the majority of the senate. what the president ought to do what john kasich just said. that is the president ought to sit down in january with the new republican majority in the large and the historic majority in the house and search for common ground. that is what leadership looks like. that is what we do is governors working with r legislatures. we sit down and hammert out. signing that -- signing an , barnstormingr defending that order is not leadership. the likes of which we practice. i would implore the president to toonsider this path and demonstrate the kind of leadership that the american people long see.

that this administration would sit down with this newly minted republican congress and find genuine common ground, border security, there is a series of piece by piece reforms that i believe could be advanced in this congress that would be the long-term interest of the american people on this issue. >> the thi governor up here who has washington experience. you have to hide that these ys. -- with the congressional republicans be in a better negotiated position, started this incremental and that is what the white house says. we have waited for the hou to do anything. >> i think two things. i will wait until theidterm elections toake action knowing this would be unpopular.

he went out and to us my policies would be on the ballot. overwhelmingly the american people rejected the policies and in blue states, red states, and purple states create i will delay taking action. he los and instead of stening to the american pele it ithe height of arrogance for any president to say i will ignore the constitution and do what i want. he is not the first president to disagree but he may be the first to ignore the separation of powers. what i think is amazing, if you do not have good democrats, there may be some who say i agree with him but this is the not -not the right way to do this. i will the way he has picked which parts of the affordable enforce.to

it is the height of arrogance for this president to go around the laws. he had a super majority in the senate. done d samacare stimulus bill. he keeps saying this is such a high priority. if you are serious about negotiating it would be sincere about securing the border. the president is the one that bearresponsibility. in the two years that they had the senate bill. we have to be a policy of solutions and reforms. we need to make it easier for people to come here legally. we need to say the president, how can we trust you when you are not securing the border? it has to be trustworthy. if he wants to build up goodwill and want thave a productive conversation, as john and mike said, he has to secure the border.

it is t hard. i will the fun the border as being secured when border state governors say the boer is secure. that is how you know. is not based on a 1000 page senate will. -- senate bill. >> it is basically codifying the executive order -- in executive order what is already there. we are not breaking up families. these are people here. are we arguing over something that nobody was ever going to enforce? >> no. let me address your question about the republicans from my perspective.

one of the reasons they did not do that is because t american people a not for it. you are going to see the president take this action tomorrow that is unconstitutional, in his own words. >> we do not know it is unconstitutional, yet. >> he said it was not legal to do, whether statutorily or constitutionally, i will let the lawyers hash that out. he said he could not do what he is going to do tomorrow. american people are not for this. you look at building a case that the republicans in the house and the republican majity in the senate will come to him with what is most important to the american people,ecuring the border. ey will a thoughtful bill that does not detract from the needed personnel, the drones, the strategic fencing. >> that is in the bill. >> and nee to clearly address the border security issue

singarly. you will not get amerin support for an immigration reform bill until -- not together -- until the border is secure. then, americans will be open to a conversation about how to deal with these people. it is interesting. the further i get away from the border of texas and mexico, the more inten people are. >> i agree wityou. i ve noticed the same thing. iowa, new hampshire, south carolina -- i had to put that in. there is a different conversation in the middle of the country than florida or texas.

>> that is true. it is clearly that the american people want to see the border secured. when sheffs, district attorneys, police chiefs say, governor, thank you for deploying the national guard to secure the border. wi have to pay inordinate amounts of money to prosecute individuals who are in the country ilgally and committing crimes. so, i think the president is taking a major political chance. i think he is putting his party in jeopardy and putting members of the senate and the house in jeopardy. maybe he does not ca. i suggest that, if he goes through with this and sticks a finger in the eyes of the american people with no thought other than what he wants to do, he jeopardizes democrats getting into power.

>> governor walker, you have not spoken on this. perry talked about a stand-alone bill on border security. >> house republicans put mething up. i'm saying that the conversation would be difrent with bill the republicans passed. >> i am an optimist. the president came and campaigned in state that was 99% for him in the last election and he went with one of our new governor elect's in micgan and across the midwest. i think the president looked at the fact tt the american peop rejected the policies of the president and he and his political team desperately want to get the topic changed. we did not get majority of the united states sena, whether for or against immigration. we were elected because -- >> you look at states like colorado andhe new senator elect did very well with the immigration policy.

i would say this president does not want a focus on repealing obama -- obamacare. he wants to reduce the national debt and those of the things that the republicans were elected to do in the house and the senate. that is why the president is making such a big deal about it after the election. he wants to divert attention from what the americans -- >> i was in congress in the most turbulent times and the most successful times. we went through government shutdond, after we won t jotyn e us whad to utowand the chrm o thbudget comttee beat u prtyad osarehehis that puicans were eleed to do inhe houseanthsete

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are weoing to deal with the real problems of health care and immigration? are we going to deal with the divided countr the thing i have learned is, if we did not get the clinton people to the table to notiate -- and we did not get everything we wanted -- had we t done that, we would not have balanced the budget. nothing gets fixed without bipartisan support. you cannot do it without bipartisan support. look, i did it. i was an architect of the balanced budget and u have madeleine albright coming in to talk to you and that is enough for a lifetime. >> governor, is there a limit on what you advise on how to fight the president? >> the power of the congress is

the power of the purse. the shdown was good. >> you are making a case that the shutdown worked. >> you have a catchall bill and every confidence that john boehner and leadership will get out of the lame-duck session and will keep the government moving forward. i'm also confident that the republican majority inhe senate and the hse are going to write a budget d adopt budget, going through a regular and orderly process with the apprriation bills. when i talk about the consent of the governed, that is it. if the president would go through this and he is not providing real leadership on this issueacing our country and in the way the american people would expect a leader to do.

that is where the american people can reject funding. with the stroke of a p, to announce policy and travel after the televised address, i want to say that is not the leadership we practice and not the leadership john kasich spirits. that is the leadership american people want to see in d.c.. the president and congress figuring it out. >> who is the aggrieved party? >> i think we are spending $12 million a month on border security and the numbers are just out in harris county.

3000 additiol students from central america. would cost -- the cost is an extraordinary amount of money that the president is exacerbating with the announcement that heill allow for this. i don't think it. i know it. i think there is zero possibility. -- a real possibility. greg abbott, the new incomg governor of texas will be a fabulous governor and his job description over the last six years when you was asked what he does, he says, i go to the office, i sue obama, and i g home.

>> you believe the state of texas will have standing to challenge the implementation of the executive order. >> i do. >> i think they should. thk about how ridiculous it is. we are talking about getting the president of the united states to follow the law. there are a lot of basis for him to follow the law. he has a decion to make. he is not running for reelection. does he want to roll up his sleeves? he has real issues. instead of distracting us, the selection, people we and said we do not like the bureaucrats when it comes to health care and we want a replacement for health care.

keystone is a small example of what the administratiois doing to stop us from being energy independent. they do not want government-run monopolies. we need to be bold and principled. we need to pass bold conservative reforms and show them how we can be energy independent and break up the monopoly and education. we need to make the esident choose a fee is inresting in leaving or -- leading or demagogy. the only reason welfare became law after he vetoed it was because he had a republican majority you work with. jimmy carter increased spending on the pentagon. the president needs to admit that his approach has been

rejected by the republican -- the american people. >> shouldn't the house have passed something? >> no. some form of a bill he did not like -- there was something there. it was a political tool. if he was serious, you would have dealt with it. this is been a political tool all long. he thinks it serves him well. >> is immigration and problem? >> politicians have been played on immigration a lot. >> let's be real. you have a house and senate. if you could ram through obamacare and you were genuine and serious about it, why wouldn't he push it through? he wanted the next election.

why wouldn't he have pushed that befo? he waited until afterwards. i think it is a cynical ploy to try to draw attention away from the success the republicans had connecting with the american people and look at what has happened. instead of talking about the states on the agenda, we are talking about immigration. i think the vast majority of the american people want to talk about this. and out with men the road i'll tell you there aren't a lot of people talking about immigration. ssue?u think it's an >> i thi it is a big issue, economics big as

reform, tax reform, energy reform, school choice. e reform. you goown the list. or securing the border. think that's where the president really misses it and i found out that the president is not particularly interested in it when he came to daas and i asked tom come to the border to take a look at what was going on -- on a second. let me share onehing that i think is very important here. the president of the united did not know that his border patrol agents were 45 to the border infrom anpprehension type of a thetion, rather thann border in a prevention position. looked at valerie jarrett and is that right? i said i can answer it for you, mr. prident, it true. th president does not care about securing the border, i think that's the pblem,