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airbag defects. on thursday representatives from japanese auto supplier and auto makers honda and chrysler airbaged about the defects and the recall process. the hearing is 2 hours and 45 minutes. it begins with testimony from a victim of the airbag defect.
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bo tt cic recall forherirsig aiagn brryf 10 y car tohe deeriporerce tee meafr eyupsey reiv tnformation. the honda dealership ve td me autheecl,hey never heecall repas myehicle, and th nev ight mebo wt happen if my airbags deployed. they didotng hda claims they sen a recl notice to housin 2010. howing thatecords the information, the envelope informationritical was returned to them as undeliverable. instead of trying to notify me way, they did nothing to warn me. it is in honor of my family and support me so much that i ask the committee to answers.al it is an hon the families and friends of all who have been injured by these defective aiags that i ask the economy
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insist that these companies explain why they waited so long to identify all these potentially deadly vehicles, and it is in honor of those who cannot be here today, because killed bybeen hurt or these dangerous products that i ask the committee to get to the bottom of why these companies not try harder to warn us. so honored to be here today to have the opportunity to tell my story. but please understand that i'm one of many people who have been affected by these deadly airbags. congress willhat look at a way to improve the recall notification process. i hope there will be no more mothers taken from their chilen or no more fathers the exploding airbags. committee to do everything in its power to make are every vehicle with defective airbag is made safe. you. >> we will do that,ieutenant. promise, and that's
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wh we have this hearing today. thewe want to thank you for courage of you stepping forward to come and tell yourtory. between what the lieutenant has said and t picre i think yoget th picre. wh t cmiee peisoni'iktoet ghn tth nt ne thk u, lutan yoreerin apectet. wcodskheexel ce .o the senioricprident global quitassurae for theakata manufacrer ofhe airbags.
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ofxecutive vice presiden honda north america. the senior vice president, vehicle safety and regulatory compliance, the chrysler corporation group. coming.n, thank youor please be seated. mr. shimasu, we will start th accommodatingery topeak in eli, dhi tt.e prias u veityo tnsto sny dfilt a
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veigio >>o l'sakththe. esaka ke fl spsili f tsehr at? o tdi i dtsnhiacde rknoli sth cse thccen omhi snc y. g aho cl fm aoomoin erie w de hi su shs obly dnghaevy pant penisoi i amica tay weapno n a00hoa vi a wdi'tuyt anne soe oblyidtet rellotesn tt. anmyifwod meerf e d.
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cae tupren e ais tt'whe er aonrnbo hidy, and wha t seonrn abt hidy. weooathe5 jues tt ve ourd,7 tm ve cued iflid ao er ro d xa e rgmari ohe su accri i utrnre. warryg ueran he ianadtial rk t er an wn fd rk a t ca. 'sur rpoibitto rell tseehlewh w ndis. >>s penwe d r t numr rohit'sit ty idha a00r rlr hie wldee bjto e cautot 20. w n usse tay at 27 hie affo anou altn e ad t ivod?
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satitouinlgce an ueranng'motur a t ect de ai sierthbrk in i rmofhe ral. haveclwasuecto a ca, wt ix. haveclwano sje a ral wha n teinissoe ul det feorherir. whaa nvsaon eaie imyffe, a y idt s dfilto teinth setof t vi bauf opory reon wod bacra issin th y c't basre 1% sud t owg atth cearchgewe men the rag >>enor hlewereot emalrolt eer a ndthe -he i prriar thnog voed erhaeeimoven dey tats meason on foexpl tres ffens t spef e
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uto ugr odigr wi nsa clor naonde ral >>enort'haore swesr . iyoalw t-- >>t n hd r u aneresr n y spo tatnwe a oair bth t pame o tnsrtio s su yeoro? ainenorif- iid ndhe thnalatto- om a iid tsuor tss decon a th wwoedoetp th nia d to mertoak ca oth iue i gngo kehaas y dotgritth
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cionyit a ius anan ihi iiser diurng to y eran filwh h hie th tatair bs inth'souosio toy tealth wha ard. thk uromnys ki bi mtan t ppti th rallhoeaed. w, l mmo o ii n. kis stewakied wh ssges de bk. d thk tathe iki aout keuatyo ishong tt e r g atasnsll ppls rsasn erir'si. at n bngeclebu t easng'sid dot inth's rht i n'thk yohod veo rrthanofhe falyemrsre dge masosheisr
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rer. eson spo ralof paenr'si bs wl veha wnoknbo e tki te mbsth chnef esirag pontlliss ri t amic fils? sat mky thererewo nfmeaiba rtts, paenr a b ilar ruur ihoa hies weavno eernc a jues eyrearofheicr premt cpan. weavctllrell ii beev is ntas ssgeaiag werectelwoinonha rit w. ai tse a ccerad t - >>ouuprtasng si ral tt ul bth uile oth dves de rellfohe a bs? >>e ppt pseer-e vengng pseerid
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fi-d pio lk , tseiragar e me wth ty ht e litentr eyild m' sier eye eam d eyhod ecle anacofouhod btoy yihayosuorha olealy thk u, m cirn. tnkouseto thk u f min io dict yeor n ju le sat hledias we. setor bm atil tnkr.hama yokn, inohayoar he igo ftho he yoon te ytng a intoayernay t trese at tse aiba fleutheysm il eal n me. anir oal wt inenorar i h lor aatnal rall
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a cs thhe a bs onheasng awe ath iv's se. me at pntreouy, hend. i'alalngn e crarofrapoat t meatyccere t plemt pce lki rwd. turntatof pruconaka 3,0 aiba mth treo y athe a gngo suicntroctavlae. iskouwi y opatnn cerad plemt pcess sth mpitsf kailbe caedpotoupyho dtsnsadfaka? acofhe - o t tnse >> cta. vislienon ain
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th wha aobgaono ouusme. cerang t pduioof pa a gti ts ocs do qck idict - >o at aes -i ae. swiouak ntata pas rla tseir ba? sat, wt tge esca fed e fe ooucuoms e ght ioty l tis a othtae. weou lk eryptn. >>'moi t a t crarofrapoat t deth y dsout iop yowi cpete wh iayheysm il, ereerbeus odey, ndclur awe a pontl ceion. donalnt inac bo oyo cpaesnted inetemtshawe debetilyndursell coeadn urrds.
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rve mpgn dooundstd e su he? at gngn res resatoar tes pbl in w tt car detaab t t csur. he b- h me rellinheas arnd-hf tmeca camafaurg ann e hiorof arin r nuctinprab men thla yr tn 'vhain ma, ny yrs cbid. e obm ion tnk th pplth a dvi the rsndstd eis caeouuyret en coorblwi bng coisnt io etr n u' tli nsat'a seiccaai oa fe ca. yr ndotr an avdi ligio a abit w wldou diertie twn svi llnd setecl? >>esenor i uliktota bsang it cysr'pocyhat gale owhh y es tis e itiedr w
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th'r craeredecl o fid rve cpan,he cuom fininrmiois idtil. fed t se foatn thit a t mlis ato o ctorsre thsa. sdoheaingsath setrellndoure inanr d u edo t isar i oroeitay ts a nic th ts rtasee rell? tht y phisnafy? >>t'myndstdi i do craeret a satyonrn ye >>el iou leo e foalofho osth voedouomni,ll thseicamigveus fe ral -i ulli s t nichawe t yo dve. wod keo e t nggefho. d ifa t lgue e meoi tthdrer whisheanagdiffert nsa >> gsshehactizio --ner ohowe
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chacri tseves, agn, ryersgrinto dohiwi o iidt d e ckf detainof otau i kw isil sod kengeeng teinog buththg ats il it ithnstae esbe ilarss e see aefedoo cae. t aen oa fid otau imas e nt sts ffuln rmof wh tdo i inth iauae af ns twhyose the artezeth w. doouayheam t rsoth tre a diercen artezaon is- yr ticaono dreridtil twhhe orott'a rve mpgn aafy ca? sat ihi -there nfiohe. d t rulorfrewk th wrepeti ueras ceaites atre pt atega i amorth a ung i'noan einr. veskheersa
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esonoue kewh's thprtil ffenor thcuom a i've enol ne th nd bnghe c . w,ehd tmsfow wee okg r idcef skndoor tt ou t muftu's reonbityorngit pperanwoinwi nia. t wod ppt iweou ke ts ear ronme nds pptoorwi - a y sdi t se nofiti toudrer etr nt'aafy rellr etr n is seiccaai? sat wldikto dolehe b ielve th'rve sil nif icio wth is seic caai oa fe ral ouinre itoelth str pasco, pas llplseomto alsh, ea g t pt pled whheth rlames r e rpe aidtied decthi ithrellr e rpe gti me foatn icisheafy premt mpgn i inwehod lphe coum bno hinite clr tm. wli' tl u atf
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i t leerayg 'r instatg meing wld yobrg ur c itoel usi' by? if g aetr yif u ivth y cldav ecf raelmbdein yo e iyoauteist siininheeane tou sh clde ind d, atifre tn 'r chki o ainstti. thk at t my wys e -weou ts g asou a kwouad he veolwed iclel erwe lye tt e yi tavditatn. the reotawrsha weryg me reve coum kw e dge d heoto t t isefsiroh ou liil ligioanget in aofnse sion abt ki se ivs e sa. d tiyo cpaesece dha uilit i a mo ae d grsi rtr tt, csursre gog ben e rk i anthxcngbeee nar llerbo wth o
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nohi dghr s se inedle hes unedtas nar d iasngomodin chgef e mpy atad s uger c wth i isaffohetorit d ile y wenur w aweit th's pbl. 'vgo aroem soe' gng tke hin the argsnde' gng toryoeewoinon leslionde' gngo ke yli ait uile geth rhtorherirs anpuic th iunceab. thk u. >> tnkouseto setocat ll >>ha y, m cirn. ani uliktoolw aoue pntmy coeaesavma ai she eiruraon a anstveth suaon wn is caau o wee stoi wt ts sa. thk das arg a ve gd pouny rs scs at a t cng t bead nowh nsaeqretoy t w at wreerwh d
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>>ay iilasthotr tw do y tnkhaweeeto ha t sreryakctn? yeoro? >> trentimweav ou splfor t dan t t dancodhae bad furacon so'motn poti t jue tats tite caci he. r a oio sulben e tleo ar rlad usmevecl k. ha aut aine ft i nto t ath pnt bui'gog floupn isit eh y a wh thecta. thy a wnoheod isss w nak nucter rpoib f 10 rall sce? e pshai e iea fit d'teen ai st he, ion s a bealt d t he op w ayi a wre hingehd,ele d reenanweid
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