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under this government, stations, lines and electrification are all taking place. >> will my right honorable friend meet me to help get more beds for hereford hospital? will he send a minister to meet the magnificent staff and, possibly, welsh patients who have acquired addresses in england so that they can access life-saving cancer care drugs that are not available under the labour-run welsh nhs? >> i am sure my honorable friend will welcome the £2 billion for the nhs in england, which the chancellor announced at the weekend. that money will go directly to the front line. obviously, we want to see continued improvements at the hereford hospital. there are pressures from people from wales crossing the border and wanting to use services in england. that is why it is so important that the welsh nhs has the improvements that we have been talking about. in terms of meetings and visits to the hospital, i will look very carefully at what we can do to help.
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>> cutting net migration to tens of thousands, reducing spending on welfare and, yes, eradicating the deficit by the end of this parliament formed the triple crown of the prime minister's promises to the british people. how does it feel, as prime minister, when you are once, twice, three times a failure? >> i will tell you how it feels to lead a government who have created 2 million private sector jobs. i will tell you how it feels to lead a government who have turned around the british economy, and i will tell him how it feels to have an economy in britain which businesses around the world want to invest in. that is the record of this government -- recovering from the complete shambles and mess that he left when he was part of the previous government. >> the prime minister experienced this summer, as he may well remember, the congestion regularly faced by my constituents at junction 9 of the m3 motorway. can i thank the prime minister, on behalf of the people i represent, for the comprehensive package of improvements announced by the transport
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secretary earlier this week? would he share my view that my constituents can benefit from this kind of investment only because we have a taken the decisions to get our economy in a place that we can? >> my honorable friend is absolutely right, and i know about the importance of the m3 improvements that he mentions. the fact is that all these things, whether it be improving our road network, investing in our nhs, building new railway stations, and electrifying railway lines, these things can be done only if we have a successful and growing economy, a long-term economic plan and a demonstration that the public finances are under control. with this chancellor and with this government, we have all of those things in place. that is why we have been able, over the previous days, to talk about improving our nhs, investing in our transport infrastructure, building the flood defenses that this country needs and putting in place all the infrastructure, whether it be ports, airports, or energy, that the british people deserve.
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>> in the past four years, the nhs has spent more than £5 billion on agency staff, about 20% of which will have gone into the pockets of the agencies rather than the pockets of nhs staff. how many full-time permanent nurses would that have paid for? >> what we have in the nhs under this government are 1,300 extra nurses and 8,300 extra doctors, and because we have cut the bureaucracy, we have managed to remove 21,000 bureaucrats. no one wants to see extensive use of agency staff. all well-run hospitals will have fewer agency staff and more permanent staff. and that is what is happening under this government. >> you have been watching prime minister's questions from the house of commons. question time airs on c-span2 every wednesday at 7:00 eastern. and again on sunday nights 7:00 eastern and pacific on c-span.
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past primed video of ministers questions. monday night on the communicators, v kimetter on stuxxnet, a computer virus that sabotage iran's nuclear enrichment program. >> it was a virus designed to physically destroy something. malware that stole passwords, credit card numbers, but we never saw something that was designed physically destroy, moved out of the digital realm and into the physical realm. that was the first thing that made it unique. other than that, it was very sophisticated. ands designed to increase slow the speed of centrifuges. while doing that, it also did this remarkable trick, which was
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to make the operators of the plant think operations were perfectly normal. what it did was it recorded normal activity on a computer and then played back normal activity to monitoring machines when stuxxnet was doing the sabotage. monday night at 8:00 eastern on the communicators. >> coming up next, hillary clinton talks about middle east issues. then is really labour party leader isaac herzog discusses relations with israel. -- a conversation with order former florida governor, jeb bush. >> at the brookings institution on friday, hillary discussed the middle east. she talked about nuclear talks with iran, the fight against isis, and the israeli-palestinian peace process. this is about an hour.
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>> i want to say hello to your friends before we start. >> i am waiting to everyone. nice to see all of you. ofbefore we start, on behalf the whole team at brookings and myself, we would like to send our condolence to administer lieberman on the passing of his mother. >> i think we can all join in that. >> thank you, hillary. secretary, we have had 11 forums sof -- so far. you participated in nine, traveled to jerusalem a few times. this audience has one important thing on their minds. the whole of the united rates,
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the world, has a question on their mind. and i hope and expect that you would give us a straight answer from this stage. how does it feel to be a grandmother? [laughter] well, i was in the senate or eight years, and i would like to the luster on this question. it feels fabulous. you and i talked about this with cheryl and other friends. it is an extraordinary, wonderful blessing. for our first thanksgiving with charlotte, it was just beyond words for both bill and i. and i am feeling particularly grateful that we are in the new stage of our life together. >> good. try not to be too busy.
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save some time for the granddaughter. [laughter] in the middle east, outside of bringing palestinian and is really fused, it is about bringing communities together. have we succeeded in our country in bringing communities together? when we look at ferguson and what happened in new york, or have we failed? i think we have made extraordinary progress over the course of our nation's history. for that, i am grateful and proud. but we still have work to do. when tragicbvious incidents like those we have recently seen occur. is acognize at root, there
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problem with our being able to put ourselves in each other's places, to recognize the challenges that our fellow citizens often face. so we have worked to do. but our founders were extraordinarily psychologically smart. because they talked about us trying to achieve a more perfect union, and that has been the impetus for all these years as we have taken on big problems like slavery, like war, like depression. civil rights, women's rights. like so many of the other difficulties as a nation we have had to face. doupport the efforts now to what the president and attorney general have advocated, and that
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is to work with our law-enforcement enforcement, work with our justice system, so that everybody believes that they are equal under justice. and that the rule of law applies to all of us. that will take some retraining and some additional outreach, into our law enforcement and criminal justice systems, because i would argue that by a large, the majority of people who work in both our honorable, our brave. are very committed to our values. but i also think it is about communities, it is not just about our in tuition. it is how we relate to each other as people. it is a task we have to be constantly focused on and doing better with. >> amen. i would like to ask you a very theoretical question. very theoretical. nothing to do with reality. what if you decided to run for
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president? assume that you got elected. january, 2017.of you walk into the oval office. you are familiar with it, so you do not need to get acquainted with the environment. thing, what isst jour, on thater du very first day, that you tackle? >> it will not surprise you that i have long learned not to answer hypothetical, theoretical questions. [laughter] >> next question, then. i was just joking. >> i am taking myself out of it. let's talk about whoever is our next president in 2017.
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it is going to be as it always is, and increasingly so in this complex world that we share. a long list, there is not going to be one thing. in ane we live interdependent, interconnected, networked world, where we see so much progress that is occurring around the globe. people making their way into prosperity, into middle classes, advances in science and research saving and transforming lives. there is a lot to celebrate in the world today. it is partly because of this interconnected world of ours. we face new threats and challenges that we have to be prepared to take on. it will continue to be priority of whoever the president is, in
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our own country, and through our own efforts at home, to grow our economy, to create more jobs with rising incomes, better standards of living, increasing the opportunities for americans, which in turn will have a ripple effect throughout the world. the united states economy does not service the engine for growth and prosperity, it is , at least in the foreseeable future, who else could. and the job numbers today were very good news. we continue to make economic progress. but now we have to work on the challenge of inclusive growth, roughly shared prosperity. that economy is at the core, not only of our well-being, but it is also at the core of our leadership. unless the united states remains strong economically, unless we remain committed to our role in the world, then so many of these
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challenges that we confront, that i tried to write about in those areard choices, not going to be as readily dealt with. because we will be rightly concerned with what happens here first and should be. i think as we look into the next couple of years, i anticipate economy will continue to grow. i think today was not an outlier. i think there is wind beneath our wings. we have some tough decisions to make here at home about how we make sure our economic good news is broadly shared and how we think of our own leadership globally in a way that makes us more secure. helps our friends and allies, like israel, have as much security and stability as possible. grow the economy, and do the
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work that will sustain american leadership in the 21st entry. >> you are absolutely right. i agree 100%. if we were to take just foreign policy, what is the one most urgent issue that we are facing? >> i think it is very difficult to say there is one. let me just quickly mention. i think the continuing threat from terrorism, especially the way we had seen it more -- morph into a more sophisticated delivery system, in the form of isis and one of these in other parts of the world, we have to remain vigilant. we have to take the coalition that the president and secretary kerry have constructed and make sure it is more than just a rhetorical debating society. oft it is a commitment
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nations by good will and a commitment to deal with the threats that the new brand of more socially adept, more well organized terrorism, particularly as we see with isis holding territory, trying to establish a state right in the heart of the middle east. so that remains a high priority. certainly, i think we have to deal with. of other issues. russia's aggressiveness. is intending to go, whether he will be slowed down by economic problems at home. the drop in the ruble, the oil price. i think that will remain a challenge for him. tries to deal with the challenge or instead tries to be more nationalistic and aggressive is going to have to be addressed. i do not think we will be finished with our work in trying
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to deal with him in two years. i think you'll be a longer-term effort. , such a of china consequential, his story event. we want china's rise to be useful. -- peaceful. to see aggressive behavior, nationalism, coming to the forefront. ofdo not want to see a war words with japan or other neighbors in the east china sea or any territorial dispute reach a flashpoint. thinkose are areas that i you have to particularly pay attention to. the middle east, as always, russia, china. and try to do what we can to manage each of those. >> you mention isis. what do you think we can do differently than what we are doing now, because they continue
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gaining territory. and they continue expanding. is there anything more or different that we can do? >> i think we are in for long struggle. but i think we have in the last month put together the pieces of a strategy. starting first and foremost with the removal of maliki as prime minister in iraq, something that was long overdue. unfortunately the instigator of a lot of the bad theings and fears that sunnis and the kurds and others within iraq felt and were trying to deal with in their own way. with no positive outcome. i think getting him off the
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stage has led to a couple of positive changes. one that was just announced finally after years of effort, getting an oil deal with the kurds. being able to get the government in baghdad to recognize the importance of the kurds in the north and to permit the quipping ofng -- ree peshmerga units. i think you will see a more concerted effort on the part of the kurds with respect to isis and joining forces, to some extent, with kurds across the border in syria. we are still a long way from an iraq he army that can defend territory and take back territory. but we are doing more than we have been doing. retiredpresident asked
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general john allen to take on that responsibility. and i have the highest regard for him. he is trying to help undo the did to the maliki iraqi army after we left. i think it is fair to say that, withdrew,nited states the time, effort, money, expertise that had been poured into the iraq he army, gave up tohting chance to the iraqis defend their territory and be in a position to use the army and a positive way to unite the country. what we saw instead, unfortunately, was mailii -- maliki used sectarian measures to make the army of personal militia for him instead of a national army. it did not serve him that well. it served him well enough until
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isis posed a threat. >> they are still there. >> the iraq he army had been destroyed largely. it was not willing or able to defend territory. it was a shadow of its former self. strongwas a very incentive for the sunnis to either sit on our hands or join with a group like isis. the enemy of my enemy kind of thinking. so what the united states and our partners, arab and european have done in the last several months is laid a stronger foundation for the potential of a unified iraq, able eventually to take back the territory that has been lost. to drive isis out of iraq and across the border.
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as we keep air pressure on them across the border, to look for ways to finally deliver the death blow to them. but this is not going to happen easily or weekly. >> as you said, it will be a long haul. would you like to take a sip of tea while i asked this question? >> is a hypothetical? [laughter] >> you do not have to. too: -- not want to get cold. should we talk about the israelis and palestinians? a concordant was i'm 21 years ago. a palestinians date was supposed to come to be five years after that. are the clinton parameters, or some version of that, still relevant? worldwe need to live in a where we manage the crisis
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versus solving it? >> i think they remain relevant. is i believe that there a necessary-- imperative to achieve a revolution between israel and the palestinians. -state solution, the hallmark of the clinton parameters and the work under president bush, the work under president obama, remains an important, and i would argue, essential concept to bring people together. i am well aware of everything that is going on right now. tensions thatsing are existing in the region in israel, in the west bank, to say
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nothing of the continuing aggressive behavior by hamas coming out of gaza. but i am one who believes that the absence of negotiation leaves a vacuum that gets built d by problems, bad actors, threats. other kinds of behavior that is not good for israel and not good for the palestinians. so i think that the efforts that were undertaken in the last several years from when i was secretary, now with secretary kerry, are very much in the interest of israel and the palestinians. >> i hope it happens. but we will see. , what isry of state the one thing you wish you had done differently? >> oh my gosh. >> is there a list?
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>> there are a number of things, and i write about a lot of them. that,in my book one thing looking back, i believe that we could have done differently or reaction to the iranian unrest following the election in june 2009. we consulted broadly, and a lot of experts on iran, sources from within iran, sources in other intelligence agencies. long list. the consensus was that it would not be productive for the united supportivee vocally of the demonstrations. and really speak out persistently against the abuses
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of the iranian regime. the reason for that is -- it did spring up from the iranian people. the concern was that we will look as though we were directing it or supporting it. just for excuse, not the iranian government, but for people that might be on the sidelines, worried about the outcome. to move away from the movement. and looking back at that now, i wish we had spoken out more. but they would have been against a majority of people with whom we consulted. obviously, for me, the work that we did around the world to try ,o bring people together whether israel he or
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palestinian, after the revolutions in arab countries, they were fraught with faculty, hard choices. trying to decide exactly what to in retrospect, you could say, maybe we could have done that, or maybe we could have done that. we were trying to do the best we could under circumstances that were not within our control and were rapidly changing and had been predicted, but nobody thought they would happen as they did in egypt and elsewhere, and then, of course, i deep we regret the loss of life of any member of our state department family, whether it was an aid worker in iraq or in a worker in or foreign service officers in libya. that is always something you think, ok, what more, what more, what more could we have done?
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