intelligence that helped the united states for an attack plans. let me be clear. it we have not concluded that it was the use of eit's the allowed us to obtain useful information subjected to them. the cause-and-effect relationship between the use of eit's and useful information is unknowable. irrespective of the role in eit's might play, i believe effective noncoercive methods are available to elicit sus intimation. methods that do not have a counterproductive impact on our national security and honor international standing. it's for these reasons that i support the president's decision

to prohibit the use of vat's. host: here are the numbers if you would like to respond. "the los angeles times" leads with that story. "the new york times" editorializes what has been going on between the senate and john the report brennan's press conference.

what is your reaction to all of this? scott, good morning. caller: good morning. these terrorists are in the business of killing it. they are in the business of killing americans. now we have the news that isis has beheaded for christian children. that was in the news this morning. my question is to all of those

who continue to show compassion and concern for these people who want to destroy us, does the fact that isis committing these beheadings of for christian children, does that change are feeling at all? let's move on to wayne in georgia. caller: good morning. day.boarding goes on every it's called surfing. these people are getting saltwater up their nose intentionally. i think we to kill them for their own good. opinion aboutyour the senate report on interrogation? understand, what i i think there is a significant difference between emergency intelligence and actual

intelligence. it looks like they were able to get intelligence they could act on. i think i would be ok with torture. i don't think it's something we should do in non-wartime. danny is in alabama. are you with us? caller: yes. i want to give the cia my support. i want to for wars. , if it and the fbi wasn't for what they did, we would have a bunch of soldiers killed and a lot of civilians in

the united states. i think the investigation that they did was completely out of the water. i think they should be continued so we can get information that we need to protect this country. a little bit more from director brennan yesterday. uncharted territory for the cia. we had little experience housing detainees and precious few of our officers were trained interrogators. the president authorized the effort six days after 9/11. it was our job to carry it out. over time, enhanced interrogation techniques which the department of justice determined to be lawful and was

authorized by the bush of ministration were introduced as a method of interrogation. endured, a variety of these techniques were used on several dozen detainees over time until they ended in a 2007. the legal status has been revoked. host: steve is in oklahoma. just kind ofnk i'm amazed that so many of the who we try and set this worldwide view of being nowdly, moral country are actually defending a government that for the first time in our --tory started taking people

let's keep in mind that most of the people that they picked up on the battlefield were proven later to be innocent because they were offering bounties for people to turn in terrorists. a lot of these people were tortured and were completely innocent. ask people, if it came out tomorrow that obama had approved the torturing of anybody, they would want his head on a pike. the truth of the matter is we were wrong to do it and it should not be defended. we are not terrorists. we are americans and we don't torture people. clear, bush and that guy you just had on, they have been tried in court in other countries and found guilty of war crimes. they can't travel.

alberto can't travel around the world because he might get arrested for world times -- crimes. the "washington favorcare co 47% still enhanced interrogation techniques. brian is in kansas. my thunder.e told these good moral christians were

defending people he being rectally hydrated and some of them dying. we are supposed to be the shining light on the hill. wrong no matter how you look at it. we have signed all these treaties. we have said we would never do this. we saw what happened in vietnam. this,e get a chance to do we sink to the lowest level we can. it's amazing that all of these people that are calling in and supporting this. if you look over the history, it's been determined and it does not work. it does not work. when we do this, we cannot getain when our people

rectally hydrated. that's all i've got to say. host: jim is in new jersey. caller: thank you for taking my call. thinking about these signs that say we will never forget. i hear these people talking about terrorists. how do you think that these people ever got to be terrorists? ofy must've seen a lot things that made them extremely angry. what kind of person could be had somebody has to be extremely troubled. about we willking never forget, how about we will never understand? as far as america is concerned,

when we drop bombs on iraq because they have weapons of mass destruction that they never had, what do we say? sorry? the people that did this are war criminals. alberto gonzalez included. i think they should be punished for it. i think that these are regular people like us. not any better or worse than we are. from "the washington post."

that is a little bit from "the washington post." you probably saw the live tweeting that she was doing yesterday while john brennan was speaking. vincent is in new hampshire. thank you for giving me this opportunity. i would like to address some of the earlier calls. was a skew ine facts. we seem to be switching topics back and forth. this happened post-9/11.

time, we had a huge threat to our national security. we were very naive at the time. official in was washington was trying so hard to make sure something like this would not happen again. -- this was a mistake that we made. we had good intentions. this is part of our history that we are not going to do again. it is controversial. that theo remember toentions were not made belittle us. it was made to instill fear. was it the best method?

no. i think we got your point. this is dale in memphis. want you to know that i understand the mechanics of what went on and the reasoning why it went on. , i think wetime went overboard. i think we try to teach our kids about not being over the top. i think we should have leveled out somewhere along the line. that's all i have to say. clifford is in georgia on the republican line. everybody is talking about torture. to know what they call up lane flying into the

world trade center. i think the president done what they should have done. from "the washington times." the senate moves to give obama limited combat power.

mark is in lima, ohio. we are talking but the cia response to the interrogation report. i think it's absurd that we are debating torture. it's a war crime. you can't say you were following orders. for these people to keep defending it, do they realize that we raped women and children it? we tortured innocent people to death?

the only people it might agree with you are the people who defended hitler and pol pot. it's nonsense. torture is a war crime. those that did it should be prosecuted. we should let everybody that's in jail now out. it's absurd to me to be debating whether torture is ok or not. this is ted in a winter haven, florida. caller: actually, it's dave. say that unless your family member is part of what's happening in trying to rescue them, we are not killing these people. we are minding with the mindset that is different. you have to hate -- fight fire with fire. if that saved your family member , you need to put yourself in that position. you would do anything to get that family member back. is in atlantic city,

new jersey. you are on "washington journal." you are on the air. you are not on "washington journal." joe is in washington. caller: i just want to echo what dave said. every anti-torture person that is sitting in their little ivory torture, whenng they are asked the question if your own family members life was if you had to go somebody youture know might give you information, they always refuse to answer that question.

if they wouldn't condone torture, then shame on them. "the hill" newspaper. he will be replaced by david mcintosh. mike is in houston. they should have interviewed general hayden. they interviewed nobody from the cia. i would argue that the report

had a bias. it was odd that they would not interview the cia department. it's odd that you have a report like that that is so one-sided. the point i want to touch on is can remember when planes started flying again. was it normal to look up and wonder? there was a lot of uncertainty back then it. wasourse our president going to do things that were airing on the side of caution. we would want them to do that. in terms of weapons of mass destruction, i would argue that saddam hussein was a weapon of mass distraction. agreementwidespread that he was.

there are a number of things. if we don't look at the history of this and look only at yesterday and six months ago, you've got to go back to 9/11. on the front page of usa today. the gloom persists on main street.

another economic story from "the wall street journal here co --." on strongeris footing. the next call comes from louisiana. what is your view on what we've been talking about this morning?

condonesnybody that areure, this is why we godless right now. democrats, i used to be a democrat. i wouldn't be one. they are cowards to the republicans. they only went to iraq for the oil. all of you people that condone this, may god have mercy on your soul. you are evil. kids starving and they are worried about the rich. that's what i have to say. craig is in indiana. caller: hello? i've got two comments.

i would say quit doing that. if they don't know the religion, don't speak on it. said there is a time and place for everything. you get guys over there beheading americans. to remember why we started doing this in the first place. it was over 9/11. i don't think torture should be taken off the table. it should always be there. there should always be that threat. you let a bully to bully you, you try to suffice them by giving him things, he is going to continue to take. is donethis country with taking it.

i think it's time we started giving it back. the senate will be taking up the spending bill that funds the u.s. government through the end of september of next year. that will be on the senate floor. they've got a full day. they've got some things to do first. about 3:00ke it's this afternoon that they will begin talking about the bill. house passed it last night. they passed the two day extension. as well.e passed that the government is funded through midnight on saturday. it will all play out today. we don't know how it will come out. elizabeth warned will be one of those who is speaking on the senate floor about some of these issues. journal" street predicts stronger growth.

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would be willing to suffer the consequences for my actions. host: that is june in east .ansing, michigan we will see you tomorrow. >> after lengthy closed-door agotiations, house approved spending package to keep government agencies operating through september of next year. the vote likely concluded work for house lawmakers in the 113th congress. that measure awaits action in the senate. they are gaveling in about now.

the senate will also look to wrap up work on the defense authorization bill as well as bills to renew expired tax breaks. for more, we spoke this morning with a capitol hill reporter. host: what is happening in the senate today? now that there was the agreement that you just discussed and the house has omnibus spending bill. it's the senate's turn it. when the senate comes in this morning, there will be some end of the year business to begin forward toe looking the farewell speech from sen