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the march's chief organizers, reverend al sharpton. then, larry pratt, executive of gun owners of america. ♪ host: it looks like we're going to see the u.s. senate this weekend. the agreement cannot be reached in several areas, including how to get to a final vote on the $1.1 trillion bill to fund the federal government. current money runs out at midnight tonight. setting up today's showdown on the senate floor. c-span2watch it live on today. we will explore what the problems are in the senate and now the senate might get past them. we also want to hear from you. here are the phone numbers to
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call. republicans you can weigh in on social media. or send us an e-mail. here is one of the many stories this saturday morning as the senate remains in limbo here. nomineesll from the are at issue as senators try to wrap up the 113th congress. the story comes from alex. alex all us from -- folsom. caller: harry reid wants to move a batch of 20 nominees. he has been saying for weeks now that these nominees will get
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done in the lame-duck and republicans don't want to provide any expedited consideration. the democrats have the votes because they changed the precedent one year ago. they only need a simple majority to get these guys past and they haven't but republicans are not cooperating. they are not giving back anytime. we are going to have a votes throughout the day today. perhaps as many as 40 procedural votes. -- it's justally pettiness. this is something that these nominees will pass anyway. reid said he would vote on them but republicans don't want to speed it up. we will be voting throughout the day starting at noon and possibly going until 1:00 a.m. sunday morning when the senate will take up the spending bill. host: talk to us about the spending bill itself.
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but that legislation is still problematic? on the democratic side of the aisle, what lawmakers don't like is this provision that would soften the 2010 dodd frank wall street reform bill. eliminate, get rid of the prohibition on fdic from trading risky derivatives. elizabeth warren has been leading the charge on that. she says by allowing government-backed banks to trade these risky derivatives, which warren buffett called the weapons of mass destruction, you put taxpayers on the hook for future bailouts. she is pushing an amendment to strip that provision and has cosponsored it with david bitter . apparently won't get it appeared on the republican side, jeff sessions of alabama and ted cruz ng to theare objectiv
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president's executive order. they say this bill should defund that executive action. they're pushing an amendment that would do that. that is not going to get a vote either. it provides a great opportunity for democrats and republicans to make their points loudly. it would probably get more attention of the government shutdown were imminent. i don't think that's going to happen. itemsother legislative option out there. what are they? caller: in addition to the on the best, you have a package of tax extenders. this would extend a variety of expired tax provisions. that is fairly noncontroversial. a one-year extension.
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ron white, the chairman of the finance can we try to get a two-year extension. he will make those tech specs permanent. that did not go anywhere. we will get a one-year extension for a variety of tax breaks. that is certainly going to be approved whenever it comes to the floor. in addition, we are more obligated, the terrace risk insurance act. 2010 doddoftening the frank reform bill. they say the extension will not go anywhere. they're looking to amend it and pass it before your path and. year's and. -- end. host: anything else we should be looking for today or tomorrow? things the of the
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senate democratic leader's office was highlighting is this split between ted cruz and mitch mcconnell. the democrats thought they would get a deal to postpone this work until monday and they thought mcconnell was on board with it. , sothen ted cruz objected cruz is saying forcing the senators to vote throughout the weekend. interesting to watch what he says on the floor very carefully as he pushes for a vote on a constitutional point of order objecting to obama's order on deportations. how many shots will he take at his own party's leadership for not fighting harder against what he calls amnesty? host: thank you for the insight. we appreciate your time.
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caller: thanks for having me. host: you can watch the senate live today on c-span2. we are taking your calls this morning on this spending agreement and the senate in general. before we get to your calls and comments, we want to show you a bit of the dialogue, a bit of the drama from the floor yesterday. mike lee came up and on his mind with the immigration issue. senator read wanted to send folks of what the weekend and come back and start a new on the monday. [video clip] a post-cloture to make remain on the motion to concur. >> is there an objection? senator cruz.
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>> reserving the right to havet, the american people great concerns with the president's decision to take action unilaterally with regard to executive amnesty. this is an action that is rather unprecedented and rather unsupported by the law. it is an issue of concern to a great many people. right now, we are being asked to punt our activity until monday at 5:00 p.m. to dot see any reason this. i don't see any reason why the united states senate should operations while the american people are waiting for us to act. i don't see any reason why we should wait until monday at 5:00 p.m. i certainly don't see any reason why we should agree to move forward then and not have any assurance we would have at least
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have an opportunity to vote on an amendment that would impose a spending limitation of the president's ability to implement his executive amnesty action. would respectfully request if the majority leader would modify his request to assure us that we would receive a vote on a spending limitation amendment that we could have in connection with the cr omnibus when we reconvene. >> i'm unable to do that. host: this current schedule was put into place by the majority leader. meeting at new today, possibly up to 40 procedural votes involving nominees. immigration issues, dodd frank issues, the point when $1 trillion bill, tax extenders -- the $1.1 trillion bill, tax extenders.
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new jersey. democrats line. caller: i just wanted to alert the citizenry of some of the dangerous things in this bill. husbandne, to me, my was a union sheet metal worker. i understand there is a pension cut back. trustees of the multi employer plans make cuts 's provisions and their pension plans come up to 60%. that is very bad. if you go to the other publications like the christian science, less money to fight climate change. why are we going backwards and fighting is putting more money
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-- the irs funding being cut. a lot say the irs is a bad agency. it is to cut down on the fraud. i pay my taxes, honestly. sometimes, it does hurt. it needs to be done to run our country. , it cuts downanks on the dodd frank act. there is a lot more in this bill that we needed to look at before it is so hastily and sneakily passed. host: thank you very much. one of the other headlines today, senate funding measure hits delays. the house passed a few more days of temporary funding. yet yet as for the senate to do the same thing today. as of right now, the government
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went out of monday at midnight tonight. kathleen in chicago. democratic caller. caller: i'm sick of hearing what g these republicans saying what americans want. i think god for the republicans this morning. i hope and pray that these republicans stick it to the s and independents and democrats that crossover. they told us they were going to do this. holetold us the campaign. it is sad that the people who voted democrat and try to keep these programs that we have paid for like social security and pensions -- we have to sever along with you. stick it to them. have a good day. this time, if the bill
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upon thepass, it's dem's backs. it is fitting for congress right as one of the least productive in modern history, a chaotic and the session filled with bitter .artisanship michael in lancaster, california. pelican. -- republican. caller: good morning. i'm from the long-term caregivers union. september, they signed up 327,209 getting access to quality health care through the affordable care act because they can't get it because they are undocumented. we are footing the bill for all
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this. this union is a fraud. it is rapid here. i can get a job because i can speak spanish. it. had host: back to the issue of , a bit of insight from roll call this morning. a senior senate democratic aide said democrats wanted to confirm 20 nominees before adjourning for the year. republicans oppose murphy because they believe he is unqualified and the nra opposes reporting than control policies. policies.trol the list also includes some investors and nine judges. on friday, senator grassley who will be the judiciary chairman
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said he opposed letting judges getting confirmed were nominated after the election. julie from california. caller: good morning. byirst want to start out talking about a comment by the gentleman about immigrants coming to america to make money. i was in construction most of my life. even though they don't have social security cards, they pay taxes and by our goods and shop our stores. it's not like they are just taking. of what we are talking about here, i think both haverats and republicans been on a spending spree for
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quite some time. it is a matter of how they want to spend it. wouldstance, republicans like to probably doubled the military industrial complex while the democrats would rather take care of the people of the united states. i want to thank c-span. i think it's the only -- it's the best newscast there is because you hear it from the horse's mouth. thanks again. host: kevin from iowa. democratic line. say, the just want to lady from california is right. last night, i was listening to ted cruz and jeff sessions blaming obama for this and stuff like that. you never hear the republicans and say anything about the big banks getting a free-for-all again.
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we did that in 2008. now, we're doing it again. now, they basically get the free-for-all to do whatever they relaxed and do moneyer so they can lose and taxpayers can build them out. -- bail that out. why should we do it again? the executives who make the mistakes with big bonuses -- calling,nk you for kevin. the numbers are on the bottom of your screen. at twitter, linda writes --
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she is talking about the headline related to this topic in the new york times. wall street wins a round in this dodd frank fight. when they sense opportunity, they pursue it with a sharklike intensity. elizabeth warren who had a strong voice on this topic has made several trips to the floor in recent days. the democrat from massachusetts spoke yesterday.
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[video clip] a dangerous provision was slipped and we must pass funding bill at the last minute to solely benefit wall street. prohibition against federal government bailouts of swaps entities. on wednesday, i came to the floor to talk to democrats come asking them to strip this provision. on thursday, i came to the floor to talk to republicans. republicans and say they don't want bailouts, either. i asked them to vote the way they talk. if they want bailouts, they can take out this provision that puts taxpayers right back on the hook for bailing out big banks. today, i'm coming to the floor not to talk about democrats or republicans, but to talk about a third group that also wields
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tremendous power in washington. citigroup. in recent years, many wall street institutions have exerted extraordinary influence in washington. citigroup has risen above the others. its grip over economic policymaking and the executive branch is unprecedented. host: elizabeth warren from yesterday. washington post has this editorial. push out, push back. jeffrey from michigan. democratic line. caller: good morning. thank you for letting me get on c-span. i want to make three comments. this spending bill -- all the
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,aste and corruption going on that's the first priority. i want to say to some -- as long asans he says he did some kind of deal -- i told youns about this man. he turned his back on you protesting against police brutality. host: moving on to andy in any abou indianapolis. caller: my son work at goldman
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sachs in 2008 when they went through that whole crisis. he signed off on a lot of those credit default swaps and derivatives because he knew they were backed up by the government. we are going right back to the same thing again. host: the new york times has a little chart here on page a10, talking about berries issues involved in the legislation. doddpoint out. frank. .ampaign finance several callers talking about pensions. we had a pension related guest on yesterday.
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there is an epa provision that cuts funds for the epa prohibiting the agency from regulating the lead content of ammunition for fishing tackle. one more point about health. 5.4 billion dollars to fight ebola in the u.s. and abroad. the affordable care act largely intact. we are a lot about what is inside this $1 trillion piece of legislation. on the line from a, virginia. independent. -- manassas, virginia. the amount of control of the banks for using their riches , this is the reason why the financial system came down in
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2008 and almost brought this country to its knees. i don't think it will back away from it -- i'm so disappointed. i wish he had a backbone to stand up. giving in to been republicans. he gives in and gives in and still gives in. i'm so disappointed. ofpplaud senator warren massachusetts for standing up the way she did. i really applaud her effort. go on, senator warren. host: let's hear from gail from irvington, new jersey. what do you think about all this in washington? caller: i agree with what the
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callers have said about the amendments. what i don't understand is there were over 100 amendments. why could they have not just and give themhem back some from the beginning and focus on the appropriations bill itself? there is a lot of stuff in the bill we are not aware of. times, it is of wasted. this is my first time watching the political process. -- thisly not that much would be way better. we're not talking about give and take. about comingmore
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together where possible. you said this is the first time you are watching the political process. what got you in front of the tv or papers this time? -- thingsat got me bad in the area i live. a lot of where things were happening. people seemed to be upset and fearful. things like that. i just wondered what was going on so i started watching the tv news programs every day. host: thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. to the elizabeth warren piece we just showed, here is jody at twitter --
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following senator warren's remarks, lindsey graham came to the floor as well to respond a bit. [video clip] >> we will address the executive amnesty action and the response next year. we will not deny our troops the money they need to fight the wars they fight. he will not deny those working the money they need to protect us all. we will not deny the infrastructure improvements that have been long overdue. colleagues,atic welcome to my world. tempting to go the road of least resistance, but you will regret it. it hurt our party. it will hurt yours. if you do what's best for the country, over time, it will work out for you.
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to my colleagues on this side cover remember last year? did we learn anything? i hope so. i will make a prediction. the voices on my site that saint bernard out and blow it up and start all over again -- burn it down and blow it up and start all over again because they are mad about executive amnesty. the voices from this side saying because we've done something for wall street that we should not have done, most of us will put this in context. most of us will understand there are things in this bill we don't like, but we have an overriding duty to our country to govern. host: lindsey graham from last night. the senate back in at noon eastern time today you can watch it live on c-span2.
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votes. see up to 40 once the time expires, it could be as late as midnight or 1:00 in the morning. gabriel from california. independent. i am an american citizen. i'm very grateful that we have had the show presented this evening. thatt to thank the essence had got a good message to the world. i don't want to take up too much time here. i want to say maybe we can look into state prisons in california , maybe florida, federal prisons. there are some in his people in all kinds of prisons. i've don't know they will get to the world prison in england. something be probably
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that i'm confused on. nonetheless, i wanted to say thank you for hearing my voice, america. usa. host: david on the line for michigan. democratic caller in michigan. what do you think about the lack of agreement on this spending bill? i'm curious about the republican party being against annexed a burden on the american public through taxes, but it when it comes to billing out the banks, they have no problem making us carry that loaded for their bad decisions. when grandma first but that legislation through to get rid of the glass-steagall act, the banks did all they did to cause all the problems we had.
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then we tried to put some restraints on them again. i don't see how the american people have been learned that this is going to take us down the same road we just are now getting out of. it strikes such hypocrisy that the republicans will go with this. let's keep up with their idea of not putting the burden on american public. elizabeth warren is right on with that. that is my comment. host: from michigan to kentucky. ronnie from gilbert spell. caller: i enjoy c-span very much. i just want to say that those we have in congress are millionaires and billionaires and they are going to vote in a manner in which they can have money coming in from when they run for reelection.
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they are all hypocrites. we the american people put them in office, all of them. they were bragging about taking over the senate, but it could be reversed. mr. grandpa's speech last night -- mr. graham's speech last night, whatever, and they want stopke -- it is time to big money in washington, d.c. it needs to stop. thank you. host: we will do this for 10 more minutes and then al sharpton will join us. they are holding a major rally today in washington called the justice for all march.
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here is a piece on all this economic and spending matters in the wall street journal. they're looking ahead here. the wrangling between the white house and congress over this trillion dollar spending bill is the first test of how political forces unleashed by the midterms will influence governing here. they go through some of the factions here and write that liberal democrats say that steep
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midterm elections -- that is in the wall street journal this morning. dave from arizona. good morning. caller: good morning. i just wanted to comment on senator warren's objections to the movement. is there any senator or congressman that has never proposed an amendment that is even slightly related to the building trying to pass? it is not about the amendment, it's about who is getting their power from their party. i'm not happy with anybody, republican or democrat or ddsependent that a amendments that have nothing to do with the bill at hand.
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it should have to do with the bill at hand. to complain about that is ridiculous because they all do it. your researchers find out if there are any senators or congressmen that have not ever presented a bill, an amendment to a bill that had nothing to do with it. they all do it. that's how they get reelected. host: tom calling from vermont. independent caller. caller: good morning. host: how are you viewing everything here in d.c.? caller: it is very chaotic there and everybody is in it for the buck. i'm calling about president obama telling us that immigration will benefit our economy. it seems like it's already causing us over $2 billion in this budget. ande people at the store
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they are sending their money back to mexico. i don't see them paying taxes. i don't see them going to the bank and making any deposits. thank you. host: laurel, maryland. democratic caller. how i feel elizabeth warren is good, but we have to pass the bill so -- it's bigger than just a few of us. i wanted to respond to the caller before. there is so much going on in our area that you don't understand. it would bring people out of the shadows. -- that should not have been put in the bill at all because i'm one of the union workers. 40 years construction here in d.c. i don't feel it was fair to open up a law that affects my
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pension because i earned it. we have to move forward with what we got. we know we have a lot of crooks. at the same time, we must vote. this morning on facebook. no one should easily agree with spending trillions of dollars. -- warning on facebook. the newark star-ledger talking about the budget. the atlanta journal-constitution today. they have a story below the fold about the new house budget chair . his name is tom price.
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the house budget chair will echo ryan. , thethey mean by this incoming chair says he is going to follow the outgoing chairman 's lead by drafting a fiscal blueprint that would balance the budget in 10 years and offer transforming medicare to a system that places future retirement -- george from knoxville, tennessee. caller: i just had a couple of comments. talkingthe callers dodd a rollback of. frank. i'm trying to find the specific amendment and am having trouble. it doesn't apply to the really large banks. applies to the smaller banks, tried to make life easier for them.
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the other comment i would make callers in the discussion here have talked about the fact that the house most of the annual appropriation bills. however, they have harry reid preventing the senate from even voting on them. that is why we are in this last-minute deal for an optimist bill. -- omnibus bill. unions, aent on the lot of discussion on that. these are private unions eared these are not government unions. there are a lot of people who -- the facto have that the companies and the unions and management agreements
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that is in the "washington post." -- myronn in louisiana in louisiana. caller: i think the answer to all this is to grab hold of every amendment that was dropped in in the middle of the night and take it out of the bill and then pass the bill. dimon is calling the floor of the senate and the house of representatives and lobbying for a bill, we're in trouble. thesed to get all midnight amendments out of this bill and go ahead and get it passed. host: houston chronicle front page this morning. the budget may stall the 40 initiative -- border initiative. could slow down a number of
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obama administration initiatives on the southern border, including the controversial new family detention center in texas for undocumented immigrants. we have one last call here from oak ridge, tennessee. democrat named david. caller: good morning. the wording from the previous caller saying the bill was weakening the dodd frank in theions put in middle of the night. it would be a service if they would identify who did that pretty work. -- dirty work. host: the chance to talk about the budget and anything you want to talk about later on in the program. ,fter we take a short break coming up next is the reverend al sharpton. he is here to talk about race and justice for all, the march here in d.c.
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tomorrow marks the two-year anniversary of the newtown school shooting. we will talk about the future of gun legislation. we want to give you a small taste of this year's newsmakers segment. .alking tomorrow with john yoo he will talk about the so-called used by the bush administration to guide them through their enhanced interrogation techniques. [video clip] , have therefind out ever been medical issues with our soldiers and officers who have undergone waterboarding? waterboarding and not most of the other interrogation techniques which we felt fell short of waterboarding, like solitary confinement or sleep
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deprivation. that we did not do. we thought waterboarding was the one that came close to the line that you just read out. this goes to the other question you and everyone else has asked about, it doesn't strike most americans as being torture. the movement we proved or what's in the report. that is a hard question to answer what most people think is torture. there are things we agree would be and would not be. most americans would take solitary confinement is not torture. we use it quite often in our own domestic prisons. no courts have found that to be in violation of torture statute. there are things we agree would be torture. the cia is asking a question about -- i wish we do not have to answer this. what things can we do which don't cross the line but are close?
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that is a hard thing to do. i don't know whether most americans, most human beings think these enhanced interrogation techniques would be torture. if you look at the opinion polls , i've been looking at opinion polls this week, americans roughly 2-1 think these are justified to get information from terrorists. i'm not sure if i agree with what people suggested when they say i know what american people think. that is one of the faults of the feinstein report. -- senator feinstein seems quite clear she knows what torture is and is not and this is what happened in the cia actually authorized torture. claims the cia covered it up deliberately from congress and the white house. >> "washington journal" continues. host: at the table, reverend al sharpton.
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