my national capacity as representative of chad. i also thank the a.s.g. for political affairs and the a.s.g. for human rights. i thank them for their briefings. the report from the c.o.i. on the human rights as a great many of us have just said has brought to the fore, a situation marked by massive violations in the dprk. flagrant human rights violations that have been and are being committed by the dprk

. the report concludes that in many cases these violations constitute crimes against humanity. the nature of these violations is according to the report, inherent to the political system of the dprk. hence we urge action from the community in order to tackle the human rights situation in the dprk to include having the iccc to this matter. we also express our serious concern over the gravity of the situation if the veracity of the information in the report is established. we must note that the authorities have rejected the report. as well as refusing acsess.

regarding these restrictions the members have not had the latitude, the inquiries were undertaken with a great many north korean citizens outside of north korea. over 400 were interviewed. we call for prudence in order to avoid a politicization of the human rights matters, particularly when we know that vis-a-vis some situations where massive and flagrant violations have been committed and continue to be committed the international community has not even had the courage to report as much. how do we explain this double standard? there are many examples that show the errors committed in the past by the council in

taking decisions -- hasty decisions based on certain reports. the report indicates that the situation of human rights in the dprk has existed throughout the entire history of the country. if this is the case, then we would ask why has this not garnered the attention of the international community since then? to conclude, we call for the countries with an influence over the dprk to help, to clarify the allegations of massive human rights violations against the dprk encouraging the indance members of the coi 2 have free access to the country and to leave the country. along these lines we call upon the dprk to make a commitment

to a direct and candid dialogue with the international community and the countries of the region. i thank you. and i now return to my role as president of the security council. the security council has concluded the item on this agenda -- its conversation of this agenda item and the meeting is now adjourned.

>> on september 23, 1972, about 9:00 p.m. i reached john mitchell president nixon's former attorney general and campaign manager, by phone, about a story we were running. said he had controlled a secret fund for underexover operations such as watergate. mitchell was quite upset. responding jesus several times as i read the story. he threatened to reveal a certain part of katherine graham's anatomy which would get caught in a big fat ringer

if we released the story. and he then said we're going to release a story on all of you. i called ben at home. woodward and i did not follow authority. did i have good notes? yes. did i properly identify myself? yes. ok, put in all of mitchell's comments in the paper but leave out mrs. graham's -- >> tell the desk it's ok, he said. a top official of the nixon campaign called me a few minutes later to make an appeal that mitchell had been caught in an unguarded moment. he's been a cabinet member and so forth. he doesn't want to show up in the paper like that. mitchell then called brad lee

at home to repeat the appeal. it just boils down to this question, mr. ploor, of whether mr. mitchell said it or not and whether the "washington post" reporter identified himself as a reporter. and if he did that all my rec sits have been satisfied. mitchell's comments stayed in the paper. >> ben brad lee served as editor of the "washington post" for more than 30 years. he died in october at the age of 93. we will have his funeral service tonight. >> monday night on the communicators, amy mitchell of the pew research center on political importantlyization and where people get their news. >> you look at facebook in particular because they are still really the largest and the outlet that has the greatest percentage of the american public using it in terms of social sites. about half of our respondents said that they got political

news from facebook in the last week. that puts facebook in particular about on par with local television and some of the other really top outlets among the 89% of the population. so it clearly does play a role in people's environments in how they're learning and who they're communicating with. what we found when we broke down the differences is that the consistent conservatives were much more likely to have circles of friends and see political posts that are more in line with their own political thinking, more so than those that are mixed and also more than consistent liberals. but consistent liberals are much more likely to actually defriend somebody, if you will to drop somebody because of their political views. >> monday night at 8:00 eastern on the communicators on c-span 2.

>> now, a look at some of the issues portrayed in this year's editorial cartoons. this is 30 minutes. >> here is one of the recent political cartoons out there called 1963 updated. it's a shot of martin luther king back in 1963. and in the bubble, the caption, it says, i have a dream. but it's crossed out and it says i can't breathe. jack drew that cartoon. he is president of the association of american

editorial cartoonists. he is a cartoonist at the sacramento be. thank you for joining us from san francisco. what was the message you were sending in this cartoon? >> well, good morning first of all. the message i was sending was i think that the original optimism of 1963 and civil rights has been very much obsecured by the terrible events of the last couple of months where it seems like we had been making so much progress with the election of president obama and in 2008 and it seems like our race conversation has turned into kind of a mobeyuss strip that turns in on itself. and we keep having the same conversation over and over again. so that was what i was getting at. >> what's 2014 been like for folks in your profession? what were the most important or top issues that folks were drawing about? >> well, certainly race

probably is very close to the top. and i think also the -- i did a lot of cartoons about importantlyization of american politics and -- polarization of american politics and what's going on in washington right now. and just the lack of simple diplomacy between the parties. it's very disturbing. and i think -- i'm 54. when i actually got started in cartooning in 1978, i had worked in politics prior to that and i was a driver for a congressional candidate. it seemed like back then there was just much more comety as opposed to comedy. and gerald ford and ronald reagan tip o'neal they all talked to each other. now it seems there's no real communication between the leadership in congress and the president. that's very troubling.

it's great for cartooning. >> we'll put phone numbers on the bottom of the screen for our guests. we're talking about portraying the news cycle in terms of what these folks are drawing. so we look forward to your calls and your input. here's another cartoon that was drawn by our guest. it's sort of a takeoff on the three wise men called the three wifi men. and one of the folks is saying i'll map quest this. another is saying we can old gold franken since and mur on franken son. the third one says, forget it. i lost the signal. i think north korea just hacked us. how do you decide what to draw? where do the ideas come from? >> i had a friend once who i think very accurately portrayed cartooning as editorial writing

in high coup form. so people always think of cartooning as a drawing job but i think of myself primarily as a writer in short form. so i am looking for phrases before, in the actual execution of the idea. the first thing you're really looking for is the subject. and there's so many things going on in the news. i remember senator howard baker saying, what did he know and when did he know it? and i'm always trying to decide what the reader knows and when he knew it. so once i've established that i can work backwards from there. so i'm just looking for some small phrase. in the case of this annual christmas cartoon three wise men, i just keep running phrases through my head all day. that's really all i do. three wise mep, three wisemen, three wifi men. so then i had the first wise man saying i'll map quest it.

and they were all on devices. of course the biggest criticism of the cartoon i got is nobody uses map quest any more. it's all google map. i'm 54, i'm obviously technologically challenged. so that's really the job in a nutshell is to be reductionist and to be quick. i've always said that there's a hundred thousand people who can draw better than i can, but there are probably only 50 who can get it done by 4:00 every day. >> here's another one from our guest. tortured logic with dick cheney it's called. the shot of the former vice president, a drawing there. pouring water reference to water boarding here some kind of suspect and it says, it may not be who we are but it is who i am. tell us more about this one. >> well, i have to say that cartoonists are -- they have

favorite subjects and they have favorite characters. and i would say that cheney is certainly somebody who probably falls under my favorite subject. and so in this particular case i'm referring to his ink overinterest in having fun with waterboarding. and again, i like to try to do simple concepts when i can. and so i was -- i really like drawing cheney. >> what kind of response do you get from readers about the cartoon that is awe draw? what do you hear most? >> well, you know, in the pole rised society that we live in, you get either, you're my hero or you're the worst thing in the history of american journalism. so i would say at least in sacramento i'd say the majority

of my responses have been positive. and cartoons i think at their best provoke thought on both sides. and i think that the people you hear from are probably the same people that congressmen hear from which is people have a very strong vested interest in one outcome or the other. so consequently, you know, i very rarely hear from people in the middle but i just hear from people who are horribly offended or i hear from people wo just think that i should be running for governor of california. >> we're going to go to calls in a moment here. but the role of the cartoonist. how influential do you think cartoonists are to the political process in this country? >> it's hard to say. i think it depends on the market. i think somebody who is drawing cartoons in new york probably

isn't as influential as somebody who is drawing cartoons in sacramento or dayton ohio, or someplace like that. particularly when you do a local cartoon you could really get some things done very quickly. and i recall in particular when i was a cartoonist at the oregonen and nike at their world head quarters had their child day care center named the joe pa terno child development center. so i spent several months hammering on nike to get them to change the name of their day care center. i think it worked. and they did it. now, when you're in washington, d.c. and there's this vast horn of information coming at you all the time i don't know how influential they are. i think in the media what you always hear is the cartoonisting will have a field day with this. so there's a cumulative effect i think of cartoons, whether there's a specific effect in a

market like washington i'm not sure. i think back in the 50's when herb block did a cartoon there was a huning effect. and i think there's so many information sources now. when i started in 1978 there was no internet, there was no cell phones, there was no c-span there was no nothing. and now they're just, everybody has a rock in this flowing stream of information. so it's hard to gauge our impact. >> as we go to calls for our guest we'll go first to lou in richmond virginia. lou is a democrat. for all the bullies, beware of the cartoonists who dwell among you. part of our guest's recent work. kiveragetsdz thank you for taking my call. the thing that i would like to know is how does the gentleman keep his personal opinions out of the cartoon? or does he actually express his

personal opinions? because for me in my whole life i'm 55 years old, the political cartoons have been very funny, have been very engaging and has actually made a lot of points, even the stuff that was written and drawn before i was born, make a lot of impact in a very poignant to the topics of the time. so how do you keep your personal opinion out of it? or are you expressing your personal opinion when you make these wonderful drawings? zoo which one is it? iveragetsdz those are my personal opinions. that's what's good about political cartooning. now, i think if you're one side or the earth, i think that in my own case i feel like i've got an obligation to be somewhat eek mencal in my commentary. that doesn't mean that i contradict myself. i don't. but if i see that a democrat is

messing up, you will call a democrat on that. if i see that a republican is messing up i i will call them on that. but you have to be partisan. you have to be opinionated. otherwise, what do you have? you have a bowl of oatmeal. it's unobjectionable and nobody is going to eat it. >> one of our guest's recent opinion. here's a cartoon. it's a picture of capitol hill and in front of it is a sign. how much have you drawn about this immigration topic and where did this come from? >> well, being in california i've done quite a bit. and it's such an obvious subject where people have

completedly lost their minds and i think when there's this collective mania in washington which seems to be more and more prevalent about almost any given subject i mean when you have a situation where you have a congress where about a fifth of it is completely unreasonable and seems to be the rudder on a great ship, then immigration reform is one of those hot button subjects. and so i think it's very troubling to see the debates steered the way it's been steered. and so that's obviously one of the thing that is all cartoonists have been commenting on. host: independent caller. hello, donna. caller: my call is addressing the three wise men and the hacking incident.

i just want to say that so many of our officials seem to have adopted this something i learned along as a child, that if you can't take it don't dish it. so what i don't understand is how come there's so much fuss about north korea hacking sony or entertainment system or corp? how come there's so much fuss about it when i thought the united states are the king and queens of hacking? host: jack. guest: well, all i know about hacking is, you know, my i phone. this is not my department. but i have to say that i notice that the north korean internet was shut down for nine hours so obviously we've got some expertise in that area. i have no idea. obviously this is something

where i think it's fascinating that, yes, sony got hacked and yet sony -- we've just been talking about sony pictures for the last week, and that's also an interesting marketing opportunity for them. and now they've got the hottest movie in the united states because of it. so i can't speak to our culpability in hacking versus north korea's other than through cartoons. host: to politics. do you consider all political figures fair game? any conversation about ruffling feathers by what you do? guest: well, this is the job. i mean, we're one of the few parts of american journalism i think where ruffling feathers is part of the job description. and i think it's a key element to what we do. and if we don't do ruffling ftsdzers and more, we're not very effective. and i think political cartoons

quite frankly are way more effective than they were 50 years ago because i think it's a more pointed culture in a lot of ways and i think that we're able to say more in a lot of ways. and i think that our ability to say those things illustrates our ability to make a clearer point. and that's really important. >> one of the other cartoons out there these days. now, from our guest a picture of a new york police officer looking over a casket, a coffin with a flag draped on it. in an emergency don't call the cops call your local thug. murderer or mayor. we have paul from maryland on the line. caller: good morning. thank you, c-span. and i -- there was a comment that the gentleman made about cheney that was -- that i

wanted to get my take on. he said cheney was having fun or -- with waterboarding or something to that effect. something absolutely preposterous. cheney's about protecting the united states. and doing what's necessary to gain valuable intelligence from the extremists islamists who want to commit mass murder on a grandiose scale. ok? and moreover, many people would argue that waterboarding is not torture but it is an enhanced interrogation technique that we used on a handful of high valued traringtses. so his comment was absolutely pathetic and it just shows you how divorced he is from the reality of the threats that we face. host: let's get a response from our guest. guest: well, there's a ruffled

feather right there, steve. i mean, you know, we speak pointedly and feathers get ruffled. i don't think that dick cheney's interest in waterboarding reflects american values. i really don't. and i'm not the only one who thinks that. when you have a situation where america is supposed to stand for something that there are american values that are important and everybody -- you know, any -- i've heard so many security experts say that this kind of torture is not an enhanced interrogation method, it's torture, it doesn't really work. they say the buddy method works. i heard a very interesting thing on n.p.r. a couple weeks ago where an interrogator said younger trainees said ok, where's the waterboarding and torture? they basically said this isn't 24, this doesn't really work. this isn't the way we do this.

we get to know them and work it out of them that way. and i'm fully aware the united states faced with terrorism. i was a naval officer candidate right after 9/11. so i'm certainly well aware of the security threat. but i also don't think that pulling people's finger nails off or waterboarding them is a particularly effective method. host: as we take this next call from peter we'll show this cartoon. it's jeb bush. you can see him looking to overcome any number of obstacles. there's a hurdle here with some barbed wire on it, a hot bed of coals, a snake coming down, a ring of fire and a crocodile at the end. tough road ahead they're trying to say here for the candidate or potential candidate. peter, south carolina, independent. caller: the dartoonist, whether

he's ever made a cartoon marking the sharia or the koran as he has marked christianant? guest: i think jesus had a sense of humor. i don't think that i was mocking christian tradition by using the three wise men which is thousands and thousands of cartoons have been drawn over the years by many, many cartoonists where this was used as a metaphor. so i don't accept that. host: twitter. guest: just on this show apparently. no. yes, all the time. that's the one thing that is very -- it happens. and there's misinterpretation. one thing i don't want to do

when i'm drawing a cartoon is make what i think is a clear point and then have some little problem with the cartoon that i missed somehow, that makes that other problem the point. and so that's important to be clear. host: back to politics the a shot of an elephant here as we look back at politics. tea party insurgents have been beaten back and the establishment won. and as those different lines get said the elephant more fs sort of into a teapot itself. published in the "washington post" today. we have another one to show you from mike from the atlanta constitution a shot of the president and his daughter sasha and they're going to a middle school open house and sasha is saying to the president, i'm in a close race for hall monitor so we don't

know each other. caller: i was just as disturbed by his remark about dick cheney as the last person. and he calls himself eek mencal but all the cartoons that i have seen prove him to be very much liberal and this business before he came on you had a promo of your program tonight saying the myth of the liberal media. i mean, come on. it's not a myth around we all know it. and the only cartoon you did show that was really basically like a conservative or people who care about other people was the one with the police officer and the coffin. and then the rest of them were definitely like against the republicans in congress. and as far as the religion

goes, the last caller was right. christianity -- and i love that expression. it's a liberal expression that jesus had a sense of humor. and i'm sure he did have a sense of humor but let's get real. host: jack. guest: well, this has been really fun. thanks, steve. well, look i think you have to look at not just my work in its totality but every cartoonist in its totality. and so i'm drawing cartoons in sacramento and i'm writing a column in sacramento and i'm writing editorials in sacramento. and so you have to look at the whole sweep of what everybody is doing. so what the caller has seen is some randomly selected cartoons over the course of 20 minutes and so she's not seeing everything that i've done she's not seeing everything that tom has done. so i do try to be ecumenical. i'm not saying i don't have a

point of view. i do have a point of view. and i do get to express that and conservatives get to express theirs and liberals get to express theirs. and c-span has democrat i can, republican and independent callers at nating. to me there's no essential fairness. john kennedy once said life is unfair. it is kind of unfair. but i'm sure that there will be lots of conservative voices coming coming up in the next -- you know. host: one last call here and one last cartoon that came out december 22nd. a serious note. a picture of al sharpton. what do we want? they asked. dead cops. when do we want it? now. he's sort of holding a bull horn over a slain new york police officer. we have a call now from georgia. caller: i'm listening to your

program this morning. cartoons are great. but what disturbs me is just we have so much division in this country that we are totally -- can't even seen the truth. and these cartoons are really telling what's going on in this country and it's just so sad that the people of this country are so divided that we can't seem to move forward against racism cops, it's just really sad. host: any response from our guest? guest: well, there is a great deal of division in this country. i suspect that when you look at the election returns it's a very closely divided electorate. i think that the most important thing to remember is that we are still one country and that we still must keep talking to each other. and that is the basic way to succeed in this country is to keep lines of dialogue going.

and so some of my best friends are republicans and you know i think it's important. but i also know that i work in a very hot medium. when i say things and other cartoonists say things, it can be disturbing to people. but i also think that they do illustrate an essential truth and i think that people need to see an essential truth or some version of somebody's essential truth. we're all human and we're all mortal and i think what i've tried to do is at least be intellectually honest in my work and i know most of my other colleagues try to do that too. host: jack, cartoonist, thank you very much for your time from california. guest: thank you so much for having me.

>> you look at facebook in particular because still the largest and the outlook that has the greatest percentage in terms of social sites. about half of our respondents say that they got political news from facebook in the last week. that puts social media, facebook in particular, about on par with local television and some of the other really top outlets among this 89% of the population. so it clearly does play a role in people's environment and how they're learning and communicating with. and what we found when we broke down the differences is that the consistent conservatives were much more likely to have circles aff friends and see political posts that are more in line with their own political thinking, more so than those that are mixed and also more than consistent liberals. but consistent liberals are much more likely to actually defriend somebody if you will to drop somebody because of

their political views.

>> now, a panel of conservative african americans discuss crime, gun laws and raise. we're looking at second amendment rights. the national rifle association cohosted this event with the frederick douglas foundation. it's an hour, 15 minutes.

>> right away. we're going to hear from professor ken blackwell. and he is a member of the board of directors of the n.r.a. and i'm going to let him tell you a little bit more about himself and kind of explain to you where the n.r.a. is now and a little bit about their history and what they're doing. >> thank you, regina. it's my pleasure to be with you all today and to be a member of such a distinguished panel. i've been a mayor of a major u.s. city, cincinnati, ohio, and an undersecretary at a the u.s. department of housing and urban development, under the leadership of the late jack kemp. three years i served as u.s. ambassador to the united

nations in charge of the human rights portportfolio and the representative to the u.n. human rights commission. but i am a son of a veteran, who defended the constitution of the united states, and brought his family up in appreciation of the constitution of the united states and in full understanding of the history of black people and exercising their right to bear arms and to defend themselves. whether that was as an associate member of deacons of defense, because of his colleagues who came back from world war ii who started the deacons of defense in the south, or as a concerned husband and father who wanted to make sure that he was always

able to protect his family against harm. he was a commonsense fellow. he basically raised us with an appreciation of the constitution and the declaration. but he was fond of the second paragraph of the declaration of independence. as you remember, it starts, "we hold these truths to be self-evident." he was found of saying that is a sophisticated way of saying "any knucklehead should be able to get this." we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal. what he said is we're not all equal in height, weight, intelligence. we're not all equal in skin color. but we're all equal in human dignity and we're all accountable to god. we hold these truths to be self-evident that all men are created equal, that they're endowed by their creator with certain uninalienable rights which means are most fundamental human rights are not grants from government.

they're gifts from god. and that among these are life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. he was always quick to underscore that it was very difficult to pursue happiness or to enjoy liberty if you're dead. and that the first obligation of an individual, a fundamental right, was the right of self-protection and to protect your family and property. and so this was one simple man's understanding, hardworking man, god-fearing man's understanding of natural law and natural right that were encompassed in the declaration of independence, but also protected by the constitution of the united states. and as one who had gone to world war ii to defend that constitution and all the

blessings that it bestows on those of us who were blessed to be raised and be citizens of this country, it gives me great pleasure to work with an organization that since 1871 has defended our constitutional right to self-protection and the right to bear arms. ladies and gentlemen, as a former mayor, i know that the first obligation of elected leaders of a city is to provide a safe environment. i also know, from working with budgets, that what we are now experiencing in city after city, county after county, are budgets that are so tight that it has actually reduced personnel on the street and reduced response time. and whether it's sheriff david clark in milwaukee county or james craig in detroit, as police chief, they understand

that when you have situations where police response time is 20, 30, 45 minutes, all harm can be done to you and your family. therefore, you have a fundamental right, if you so choose, to protect yourself, to protect your property and to protect your family, and no government, at any level, has the right to stop that natural right that we have. and so as the chairman of the grassroots development committee of the n.r.a., one of america's first civil rights organizations, and one that has been on the frontlines in community after community, whether it is in washington d.c. or chicago, illinois, we in fact have been on the frontline of defending that fundamental natura