>> members of congress return tomorrow for legislative business. the houses and at noon eastern for general speeches and legislative is this at 2:00. they will consider a series of measures that address human trafficking. later in the week, house is expected to debate a border security bill aimed at securing the mexican border. majority leader mitch mcconnell filed a motion last week to limit debate on the bill. the senate meets tomorrow afternoon at 4:30 eastern. for more on the week's agenda we talked to a congressional reporter. >> she covers congress for "the los angeles times." you tweeted that the gop's tough security bill is headed for a vote early

next week. what are some of the details of this bill and what does it tell you about the overall strategy of house republicans on immigration? >> right at the start of the week, this is a tough border security bill. the chairman is calling it the toughest border security bill that has been out there and this is the first foray republicans are trying to take on the immigration bill -- or issue. republicans have been very displeased with president obama plus executive action from late less cheer when the president put together some proposals to defer deportation for up to 5 million immigrants here illegally in the country. republicans want to respond to that and one way to do that is to start taking a look at their own ideas for immigration. first up is the border bill. it is a tough bill and requires

completing the 700 mile fence along the border. it requires the homeland security to have operational control of the border, some of the hot spots where illegal crossings happen, they have to have that under control within the first two years and and 100% control of the border shortly after that. it is on its way to the floor and looks like it's going to enjoy a lot of support house. >> let's move on to the abortion bill. you wrote about some of the emerging clout from moderate republicans, saying you expect this group to influence other legislation like the border bill. what influence on conservatives in the party? ask it was very interesting. we say don't call them moderates. these are conservative republicans.

they are pro-life, antiabortion conservative republicans, but i have concerns about a month the details about the way the bill was written and they really voiced their concerns and leadership and it up backing off the bill. that coupled with an earlier vote we saw, and immigration vote that happened two weeks ago where a number of house republicans declined to go along with the plan the party had put forward to roll back those executive actions by president obama that would help deferred deportations for the young immigrant. these republicans said i don't want to do that and this is a new flexing of that point of view after the last four years where we have seen a more conservative, harder right approach from the republicans in

the house and senate. >> a lot of that seemed to come out during their retreat. let's move on now to the senate and work on the keystone xl pipeline bill that kept a lot of reporters busy and the capital the other night. there was an interesting exchange between the sanity majority leader, mitch mcconnell, and the assistant minority leader, dick durbin on this amendment process. what happened there and what might this mean for the future of the building's week? >> what you see playing out has been what senator mcconnell promised as part of taking over the senate when republicans won the majority. he wants to return to what is called regular order. what happened was that bill ran into trouble because the senators, the majority leader

and assistant leader, senator durbin were having disagreements about how to proceed on the number of amendments, the kind that would be allowed -- the time that would be allowed for debating the amendments. in the end, the majority leader just plowed toward and left the democrats behind and started making motions to table all of these amendments. the senator stayed until midnight tabling a number of amendments. it was great for advancing the bill and they are almost in with the amendment process, however it left a lot of raw feelings on the democratic side. it left them feeling like senator mcconnell was not holding up his promise to keep the process going. senator mcconnell says he tried and tried and the democrats were stonewalling on getting agreements on how to proceed.

so that's a little bit of a standoff that left everybody a little bit raw. we will see how that turns out on monday when they have a key vote on the pipeline which is to advance the bill. republicans who only have 54 votes will need to get their democratic senators who support the pipeline on board for that vote and we will see if we can do that. >> you can follow her on twitter. you can find a lot of her reporting at l.a. times.com. >> house rules committee will meet tomorrow to consider the rules for debate on the border security bill that members will vote on later in the week. the committee convenes at 5:00 eastern. you can watch live coverage on c-span3. the interior department

announced it will seek a conservation plan that will designate more than 12 million additional acres within alaska's arctic national wildlife refuge. the action would seal the area off from oil exploration, giving it the highest degree of federal protection available to public land. they currently have 7 million acres under protection. in a video released by the white house, president obama announced his intentions to ask her congressional approval on the matter. >> alaska's national wildlife refuse -- refuge is an incredible place to stop or steam, undisturbed. it supports caribou polar bears, marine life, countless species of birds and fish. for centuries, it supported many alaska native communities. but it is very fragile.

that's why i'm proud my department of the interior put together a comprehensive plan to make sure we are protecting the refuge and including new areas including coastal plains for preservation. i'm going to be calling on congress to make sure they take it one step for their -- one step further, designating it a wilderness so we can make sure this amazing wonder is preserved for future generations. >> the white house's request has already drawn reaction from alaska senator lisa murkowski. on twitter, she said this white house ran on hope but is decimating alaska's economic hopes through moves like today's and more. the u.s. conference of mayors held its meeting in washington last week. the in bed -- the event included

a discussion between the house sector carry -- they talked about their experiences as former mayors and how it helps in their current jobs. they hope to encourage relationships between state and federal officials. [applause] >> yesterday, he heard from dr. barber who wrote a book called "if mayors ruled the world." i'm starting to think president obama read that book because he's appointed three former mayors to his cabinet. we have to applaud for that. three former mayors in his cabinet.

[applause] he just appointed a past resident of his organization -- we've had an incredible presentation over the last couple of days and a great relationship with this administration. i thought it would be interesting to bring before mayors back to the meeting and have an open and honest dialogue will stop we as mayors talk about what i like to call a new federalist compact, an opportunity to redefine our relationship with the federal government and for the federal government to redefine its relationship with mayors. i know we like to hear from these particular mayors. i want to hear what their perspective is in terms of what they used to think about the federal government when they were in city hall. i want to introduce them one at a time. are you ready? play my music real quick. i need my music.

♪ i feel good ♪ i knew that i would now ♪ here we go. first, secretary of agriculture, former mayor of mount pleasant and iowa. he was the mayor from 1987 and went on to become state senator in 1982. he's been in the administration since 2009. let's give a warm welcome to tom bosak. -- tom ville sack --vilsack next up -- he came on the national scene and has done a great job in his respective city. i'm proud to say he was a part of this organization.

he's the secretary of hud, he was the mayor of san antonio from 2009 22014. he has assumed this new office and is doing great things. a round of applause for julian castro. [applause] batting third you guys know this, the director of intergovernmental affairs will stop he has been with us since the conference article of days ago and has been here every day. i don't know if you know this for the new mayors, he was mayor of louisville from 1986 to 1999 and then doubt and they combined the city and county, which we have seen this happen around the country and came back a served as mayor from 2003 22011. let's give a round of applause to our very own jerry abramson. [applause] >> thank you, buddy. >> thank you.

the irony of this last one, the transportation person is not. . -- this is a new group of mayors. we are not late to stop i'm going to introduce him and when he comes in, he can hop up on stage. going to put it in perspective why he's not here. he was designated during the state of the union as a designated survivor. do you know what that means? he's a member of the u.s. cabinet whose part of the administration appointed to be at a physical distant, secure an undisclosed location when the president is given -- getting his state of the union. we just down him and we are getting him out of the bunker so

he will be here in short order. let's give a round of applause for anthony foxx. [applause] are you guys ready? we're going to start off a little fun and we'll jump in to some serious topics. i'll start with tom maybe you on the very end. give us a little bit of background. i kind of alluded to this earlier, going back when you were in city hall, you know, as a mayor, when you think about each mayor in here today, what do you think they most need to know about the federal government? >> well, i think it's important for folks to know the broad array of programs available through the federal government. when i was mayor i had no idea of the opportunities that existed in partnership, and that, i think the onus is on us in the federal government to provide better understanding of

programs, with websites and so forth. i think we can do a much better job of communicating to mayors you know, in my department when you think of the agricultural department you may think well what is he even doing on the stage, right? well we do infrastructure projects. we, like at hud, we finance homes. 905,000 homes were financed since i've been secretary through the department of agriculture. we've helped 19,000 businesses locate and expand. so when people look at the u.s. department of agriculture, as a small city mayor, you ought to know all about our programs, and would certainly welcome the mayors here today, and for larger cities it's all about nutrition and nutrition assistance. i had a chance to talk to mayor de blasio about the important role that mayors play in some refeeding programs and in school nutrition. so there is an opportunity here for great partnership. >> awesome. secretary castro, now that you're working at the highest level of federal government, and i don't mean this in a cynical way, but how do you grade the

administration's kind of performance in terms of meeting the needs of cities or what can they be doing better to maybe meet the needs of the city, and your perspective to help make that happen? >> it's a great question. i would give it a very high grade. and this is why. i believe that one of the lasting legacies of the obama administration, vis-a-vis urban communities, is going to be that with reference like sustainable communities, and promise zones our choice neighborhood effort at hud, strong cities, strong communities, what the administration has done, i think better than any before it is, to organize itself across the silos, across the departments of the federal government, and to encourage local communities to mirror that at the local level. so that the community college district is talking to the transit agency is talking to the stet government. is talking to the housing

authority. and the sum of all of that is very powerful benefit to overall quality of life in urban communities. so to the extent that those relationships at the local level, that way of doing business, takes greater hold because of, in part because of the work that has been done in the obama administration not only are we serving cities well today but for the long haul we're serving cities well. >> i think that's interesting breaking down these silos rather than each department kind of having their own lane. being able to do it across. which i think is important. once a mayor always a mayor. >> i've had the opportunity to be mayor for over two decades and therefore i had the opportunity to work with the person in my position starting

with president reagan's administration all the way through to where we are today. and i think what's interesting that i see in the little over two months that i've been in my position is that there's a great deal of interest of developing ideas and developing initiatives occurring, a great deal of interest in terms of what's happening at the local level. to be able to be realistic and develop a rollout of a program. take for example the president's initiative on free community will college. you know, you have to understand, as the white house does, from listening to mayors and others, that the community colleges and work force training is really important. and it should rise to a point on the agenda that is well ingrained in the administration's schedule and agenda for the next two years. and i could go through so many of those issues. issues that they reach out to me and then i reach out to you to

find out what's going on in your communities, around the country, regarding these initiatives, these domestic agenda initiatives, and if the white house did this, what would it mean to your community? if the white house did that, you've got an administration with more of a focus on communities, local governments than i've certainly seen in my two decades plus. and it's because a gentleman like the two next to me, and secretary foxx who will be here, and others who have had that local government experience, even the vice president was a county official. i mean the reality is, there's a lot of focus in terms of what is local government think and how realistic is what we're going to propose, how realistic is it at the local level? >> it's awesome. very helpful for us. i do want you to know, you and joe riley are the only ones who have the distinction who said you've been mayor since ronald reagan.

affiliated with the organization. >> he started with hubert humphrey. >> secretary vilsack, here's my question for you, kind of a light one. you served as mayor, state senator, governor, secretary of obviously in this administration, of all those distinguished offices which do you prefer and why, and remember your audience. >> i think it would be easier for me to answer which one i liked the least. which is as a state senator. you know i think the people in this room all have something in common and we have executive personalities. we want to get things done. we want to make decisions. we want to see results. and as a mayor and governor and secretary you have that opportunity to make things happen. i love this job that i have now. with all due respect to people in this room because i serve at the pleasure of one guy and if he hears me telling folks that i don't like my job i might find out i don't have it anymore. in a sense being secretary of agriculture is like being the

mayor of cities and towns all across rural america, it's like being governor of 50 states for rural america because all that you all do as mayors and governors do as secretary of agriculture is able to do. it's a job that i love and it's a job that i'm well prepared for because of my experiences as a mayor and a governor. >> secretary, let me ask you one follow-up. during your time as secretary of agriculture you've shown an incredible openness and sensitivity to our concerns, you know, as we work to improve our local food infrastructure. what do you -- transportation has arrived. >> undisclosed location. what do you see as the natural next step for cities in this growing movement to expand urban farming efforts and increase healthy food access in our cities. >> this is a great question, and it's a terrific opportunity for

mayors. i think first it does inquire and require your staffs to fully understand all the tools that are available through the united states department of agriculture in cities. we have microloans for folks who want to get started in a city, loans up to $50,000. we have the ability to extend the growing season by financing houses. we can provide resources to cities to establish farmers markets or food hubs to aggregate locally produced food within a city. we have a directory that basically gives you information about where this opportunity exists. and all of this is designed to build an urban agricultural opportunity that many, many people enjoy. i was in des moines just the other day at a homeless shelter. where they are basically training some of the returning vets who have fallen on hard times through this urban agricultural experience. and it was a wonderful thing to see people begin to learn a skill, begin to learn a trade and understand the nurturing

aspect of growing something. it really is a very powerful tool to help some of these returning veterans who are struggling a bit. so, we are open for business. we have our know your farmer compass on our website. would encourage you to take a look at usda.gov and encourage your folks to reach out to me. we'd be happy to partner with you. mayor emanuel in chicago, we've got mobile units moving around his city with fresh produce. we're expanding our food stamp and snap programs so that they can be used in farmers markets. talked again to several mayors about the summer feeding program where we reimburse for summer meals if we could partner with you in your parks and recreation department, and find locations for summer meals. and to the extent that you're running your school districts we really want to encourage you to participate in our school lunch program, our school breakfast program, and there are simple ways to reduce the administrative expense involved in that.

so lots of opportunities for partnership. >> so awesome. we're going to be at the white house today but we'd love to just get more information. because that's just such an important topic for all of news our communities. secretary castro at hud you made a commitment to an initiative, community development and local vision. could you talk a little bit about these efforts and what you think this partnership looks like for local leaders going forward? >> yeah, so, you know, one of the things that i've been talking about lately is that if you think about this 21st century, we're really living in a century of cities across the world places like china and india, those nations are urbanizing at a faster rate than ever. here in the united states, cities are hot again, people are moving back to cities. and particularly the younger generation, millennials. and so it -- the challenge out there for cities also competing in a 21st century global economy where capital is more mobile than ever and brain power is more mobile, is to make your

city as livable as possible. that's really the underpinning of our place based initiatives like choice neighborhoods, like promise zones, strong cities strong communities, and a host of others throughout the administration. how can we work with you from soup to nuts, from plan to execution, to create a livable environment in your community. again, it cuts across the silos. you know, you want neighborhoods that are safe, that are vibrant, in terms of the cultural amenities, that have access to good transit, strong educational opportunities, that are accessible and hospitable for different age groups. and we'd love to share more information with folks who are interested, and, you know, about upline for choice or for promise or a whole host of other programs that we do. and just to go back very

briefly, to wrap this up to the first question that was asked, i agree with secretary vilsack that knowing the programs makes a difference. the other thing i would say is that as someone who's been here about 5 1/2 months i can say that there is some truth to the squeaky wheel getting the grease. so don't be shy about that. so secretary let me ask you one -- >> quick follow-up. you met with mayors that suggest that cities start use inging bonds to finance political housing. do you believe this can have a meaningful impact in terms of using these bonds? >> i do. i cited the example of austin. that a few years ago set aside bond funds specifically for affordable housing. if you look at the federal level we've seen dollars that have been essential to create more affordable housing in local communities. cdgb has fallen by 25% since

2010 and home has been cut in half. so federal resources like the general budget environment have been constrained and i think that local communities, you know, have to find more way ss to invest in affordable housing. some communities use affordable trust funds but looking at preserving part of your bond issue for affordable housing where the constituents can vote specifically on that as a ballot measure so it's their choice and you can sell it that way, i think that that makes a lot of sense and i hope that folks out there will consider that. >> awesome. so jerry we as mayors spend a lot of time complaining about our state governments, you are mayor, lieutenant governor, and now in the position that you're in.

how is your perspective different now that you're working with mayors and governors. any advice for us? >> well the first thing i thought was interesting that you didn't, when you introduced secretary vilsack you forgot he had been governor. it brings to me the importance of mayors engaging with their states and governors engaging with the cities. in this day and age, with the types of dollars available for services, be they state, be they city or county, collaboration is the name of the game, these cabinet secretaries working with you in the projects that you're involved with ultimately create that kind of a base upon which you can grow your communities, and support and deliver the services. so it is different up here in terms of the interaction with governors and lieutenant governors, and state legislators, and even some of your city council people from time to time stop in to talk

about issues that they think are important. but the bottom line is, as we said earlier, you're the chief executive so you're the guys and gals 40 are the centers of innovation. if there's anything going on exciting in this country, it's happening through you. and through your communities. those that are working hand in glove with their counties. those that are working hand in glove with their states. so that is the way i see it. i want to know what the former mayor of charlotte's been doing to be able to understand the real significance of him being on the panel. >> wait, wait, hold on. don't try -- >> he's trying to help you out. >> i'm trying to help. i'm saving him. i've got it. i've got it. >> so secretary here's the first question. i kind of asked the former mayors before, you know, when you were at city hall, what did you want most, you know, from the federal government when you were a mayor? so touch on that then i'll ask you kind of some substantive questions. >> that one is easy. i wanted money. i wanted money, money, money. i wanted money for

transportation. i wanted money for housing. i wanted money for everything i could think of. >> you kind of understand what we're going to ask you for a little later? >> well, you know -- >> i'm going to defer those questions to these other gentlemen. but no, you know, i think we had a vision for our community. and it was built on top of conversation with our business community, with neighborhood leaders, with community activists, and the challenge that i ran into coming in to office in 2009, was we were running in to a headwind with the economy. and my job was to keep my community forging ahead on that vision. and i think what you heard the president say this week about how the long winter has passed and we are moving in to a new station where we need to be confident and focused and determined and moving forward, free of the constraints of the great recession, i think that's absolutely right.

and i would just encourage folks, dust those plans off now. let's get some good transportation projects done. let's lift up the country. let's get people connected to the 21st century economy, and let's grow america into the future. >> so secretary you talked about, you know, investing obviously in charlotte's transit system was a big priority for you when you were mayor. and now in the administration you have the proposal of renewing the map 21, you made higher transit, spending a key priority. how can mayors help you in securing a stronger commitment to hire transit funding? >> it ties back to what i was just saying. our country has gotten used to underinvesting in infrastructure. it's almost like it's what we're supposed do. and yet when we look back two generations ago, three generations ago, those folks were not thinking small. they weren't playing small ball when it came to infrastructure.

think about the fact that we have more manufacturing activity in this country than we've had over the last 15 years. and we have opportunities to get more of it. part of it with the president's trade agenda is bringing those jobs back here. but also part of even getting the real leverage effect of this new economy is having the ability to move goods from one place to another. so my feeling is, is first of all, you have to be really clear with your leaders here in washington. your house members, your senators, about what your vision is. you also need to be clear about why that vision isn't happening right now. and i think we can have a big dent working together the in helping congress realize that the highway trust fund, getting topped off, is really not going to take us very far. but putting more investment in infrastructure so that you can realize your vision will help this country create jobs and move us in to the 21st century. we need to grow the investment. we can't just top it off. >> let me add just a couple

things. first, this cabinet secretary has a very difficult issue which is that congress refuses to give him a five-year horizon. you got funding until may, right? >> yeah, right. >> so, they've had 18 consecutive continuations of funding for the department of transportation short-term. so one thing that we ought to be combined on is trying to encourage our friends in congress to give anthony a five-year and give all of you a five-year horizon so that you are confident that you're going to have funds. [ applause ] the second issue is i think we need to figure out creative ways to unlock the capital and investment opportunities that the private sector has. we had a difference here last year in july with investment bankers, commercial bankers, pension plans, asking them what it would take for us to be able to leverage our federal dollars more effectively.

and what we're learning is the need for our projects to be bundled in a way that could potentially create interest in the investment community. we do -- we've done nearly 5,000 waste water and sewer projects since i've been secretary. one-off projects are not of much interest even though they're $2 million or $3 million projects. if you could combine five or six or ten or 50 or 100 of those projects you could actually unlock a lot of private sector resources. so one thing mayors ought to be thinking about doing is reaching out within their community into their investment community to find out how could -- how could we at the city level do the same thing that's being done at the federal level. >> secretary foxx last question and then you'll be caught up with everyone else. you know how important airport investments are in terms of driving local economies, and some mayors obviously have control, and some don't. you know, to expand our airports, we are increasingly relying on passenger facility charges for the capital we need. how can we support the

administration's proposal to raise that cap and how can we support your efforts and vice versa on that? >> well, this is a vitally important issue. right now, there's a -- it's a $4.50 cap on the pfc charges. we proposed lifting that cap to $8. which would provide these are moneys that airports can use flexibly to improve their facilities. it takes a little bit of the structure of the airport improvement program away and puts that money at the local level so that you can use that money more flexibly. we are big supporters of this. and again this is a place where i think conveying directly to members of congress how this impacts you, what plans do you have for your airport that could be enhanced if you had more nimble dollars at the local level that could be used to enhance that vision? that's the area of disconnect that i think we have up here.

and by the way, there's a very vocal lobby against increasing those passenger facilities charges, and i think the more counterstory there is, that's based on real tangible improvements at your air ports and you convey that to your members of congress, that's the most important thing you can do. >> so jerry, i ask this question to you and then everybody can kind of address it going down. what does the administration need from us mayors? you know we're going to come in, we always have our needs and what we want, but we really prided ourselves on how can we be helpful? so i'll ask that last question to each of you. what does the administration need from mayors? >> the bottom line is we need your energy. we need your commitment. and we don't need you to sit back at city hall and complain. we need you to get engaged with your congress person and your senators to ensure that they understand the programs, the projects, the initiatives that the president has put forward. what it would mean for the middle class citizens within your community.

i just -- i sit with folks for many years lately, who have constantly sat around the table and complained, and complained. and then you would say, well did you vote? no, i didn't vote. then you would say, if they voted, did you ever contact your congressman? did you ever talk with your senator? this is a -- the only way a democracy works is in an educated constituents, the citizens of this country respond and connect with their congress congresspersons and senators. or those individuals are left as independent contractors doing their own thing. so where we need you, because you're there where the rubber hits the road, is putting in to reality for your federal electeds what it means if community colleges were free. what it would mean if child care was tax credit was passed. what it means if investment in infrastructure would occur and the continuation and expansion of the legislation that secretary foxx was talking about. you got to make it real. and that's -- that's where we

look to you to check with us if you don't follow or understand the initiatives that are being put forward or the legislation that's being proposed. so that you have all the facts and then engage with your congresspersons and your senators. >> i think jerry said it very well. advocacy. we need good partners for the interests of urban communities in the united states. in some ways i think that america is falling in love again with cities. folks are choosing cities again. but that's not always reflected in the priorities in state legislatures, and in the congress. and you have a powerful voice to help make that happen for the benefit of the folks who serve. so i would say that that really hit the nail on the head in terms of advocacy and being a good partner in that sense. >> i'd say a companion to advocating, which is extraordinarily important, is also educating. and that is, that educating

people about the fact that there are many aspects of government that are working well. far too often we have a tendency to focus on things that aren't working in government. and we ignore the reality is that many services that you all are providing are, indeed, providing valuable services to people, and i think you need to connect the dots for folks from time to time that this is government working. and certainly we at federal government need to do this, as well. i mentioned some of the things we were doing at usda. for the 905,000 families who got a home loan from us who might not otherwise have gotten a home loan, that's government working. and i think there are probably a multitude of examples in this room from cities of projects and programs that are working really well. so educating the public about the important role that government is playing, i think will help also provide some emphasis, and some energy behind the advocacy that you all have to do. >> i had some time to ponder this this week at the undisclosed location. so, i'm going to offer a perhaps

counterintuitive idea which is i think that mayors are uniquely positioned to do something that i think is almost impossible for washington to do. that is to help us bring down the walls between this urban rural divide that's happened in this country. the reality is that there is urban poverty and rural poverty. there are access issues in urban america, and rural america. and if you look at how metropolitan areas are organizing, increasingly there is an urban core, a suburban ring and a rural ring around it. and i think that if there's more visioning done that brings those elements together at the local level, and policy at the federal level that supports those visions, i think there's an enormous opportunity for us to

solve problems, instead of having them created by washington. so a lot of what we're doing at u.s. d.o.t. is trying to unearth the thinking that can happen at the local level to bring those elements together, because i think one of the most essential things we can do to fix washington is to really vision well at home and bring those visions to washington, and have folks working arm in arm together. >> so mayor -- >> awesome. [ applause ] >> so mayor we all want to just thank you because we know you guys are busy and you've never said no to an invite. and for us to have the real dream team here with us today is awesome. so i'm going to ask you guys one lightning round question. real light. have fun with it. and then we'll let you guys go. you up for it? >> i'm ready. >> all right. secretary castro, chris rock kevin hart, choose? >> cross rock. >> secretary vilsack, best

all-time movie? >> the graduate. >> whoa! all right. secretary foxx, what would you eat as your last meal on earth? >> oh, geez. oh, man. what i had at the undisclosed location. braised steak with french fries. absolutely. >> best retail politician you know? >> joe reilly. >> round of applause for all of our mayors. [ applause ] all right. thank you. >> the brookings institution will hold a discussion tomorrow in the budget scoring process. economists and tax policy experts look at the drafting of budgets and the steps to make information available to the public. that is live at 9:30 a.m. eastern on c-span two. then we will hear from the congressional budget office director who will be releasing the updated budget productions

-- budget projections through 2025 to stop that is also on c-span two. >> monday night on "the communicators" -- a discussion on net neutrality, reclassifying broadband as a net -- as a utility. >> i believe there is a bipartisan consensus that has been in place for almost two decades that has served us pretty well. the clinton fcc decided the internet would be an information service, not a more heavily regulated television service. the chairman of both local parties recognize that like regulation was a way to incentivize rod ban the pleasant stop both parties, the fcc and capitol hill, realize light touch regulation is the way to go. but the debate has taken a turn

starting with the president announcement in december. we now stand poised to consider what is called title ii or common carrier regulations. that kind of heavy-handed regulation developed eight decades ago would be a tremendous mistake for the american consumer. >> monday night at eight: eastern -- eight :00 eastern on c-span2. >> "newsmakers" is next with jeb hensarling. the look at the candidates who might run for president in 2016. then our conversation with andrew keen who talks about the overuse of technology in >> our guest on "newsmakers" this week is texas congressman jeb hensarling, who is the chairman of the financial services committee. congressman, before we get started with our two reporters here, i wanted to ask you -- we are are taping on this thursday morning. there is news out of the european central bank that they

are beginning a bond buying program of their own. what is your thought on the potential impact to u.s. markets? >> i have not seen the news. best, i have not studied it. i have concerns over the extended quantitative easing of our own fed. i fear the extraordinary measures of 2008 are turning into the ordinary measures of 2015. i fear that there could be asset bubbles being created along a different lines of federal policy, including monetary policy. i fear that we could be making the same mistakes that helped lead to the 2008 financial crisis. i haven't seen the news out of europe. so, i'm not really qualified to talk about it at the moment. >> ok. thank you. let me introduce our reporters.