sustained are small and i think putin obviously has been pursuing a strategy of fight and talk. and i honestly don't know what his ultimate objective is. certainly the conflict and even the annexation of of the crimea represent only a small percentage of the total territory in aah you ukraine you mightion peck russia to wan to carve out of the country. i don't know whether it is because putin doesen feel he is capable of going as far as he might. but i think that because of the price of oil in international marks russia has been badly harmed and putin may feel that he needs a respid from the fighting in the the short-term for the russian economy to recover, maybe get some of the sanctions lifted but that is why i don't have any confidence it going to be sustained.

certainly since the last settlement or the last cease fire along the lines of the september principles was signed, and then broken that russia's territorial control in the disputed eastern province has grown very considerably. do that every three or four months pretty soon the amount of territory effectively under russian control will be p much more substantial. i think the worrisome aspects about the deal in mensk are the political questions below the level of the cease fire. when is means for autonomy and the eastern provinces. the two eastern provinces and what it might serve as a precedent from putin's perspective for increased you tommy from kiev for other provinces that he considers in the russian sphere of influence. so i think this is an effort to gain a breather on the part of russia. i think it is satisfy to france and germany.

they want a breather too, they have to figure out what to do with greece and the crisis in the euro and they don't see the united states playing a roll at all. so i think -- playing a roll role at all. the strategy might be to freeze the problem in ukraine until they can deal with their other problems and then hope that america comes to its sinces. i don't think this is over in ukraine by a long shot and i very much fear it is not over in other countries once part of of the soviet union. yes, sir? >> chuck downs here. you just outlined a number of specific instances in which the obama administration has made things that many of us would consider to be mistakes given american strategic objectives and principles around the world. i'm always shocked by the statements that every once in awhile float out from the white house that suggest there is an ideology behind it.

if you think the global warming is something that has more i impact on more people than the murders of a few americans being held hostage by isis then you probably don't think that the loss of people in being, a few americans serving in being even benghazi you probably also do not think that comes up to a major point of concern. and in fact state department a the time of benghazi was i think too often heard saying those people knew when they were getting into when they signed up for overseas assignments, which is really a shocking thing. throughout your career, you have always focused on some very specific and sometimes very smallish somehows you have defended the situation of the

sirawis in western africa, very much loved in the lockerbee crash. what does it take for america to be shaken out of ideological drift that makes us think foreign policy doesen matter? it is only crimea, they had the ukraine since alexander and we all know it because we know music. at what point do americans welcome alert to fact that the individual little particles actually form together to a mass that rolely matters? >> i think it happens from time to time. i think it certainly happened on 9/11 and what is amazing to me is that 13 years after 9/11 we appear to have foregoaten about it or some people appear to have forgotten about it. i don't tout the president's policy a triben in large part by idoology. a lot of people have theories on

it. my theory. went to ivy league schools and believed when was taught. if you went to the faculty lounges of great universities today, he would just slip right into the conversation. he just happens to have been elected president. and that is what the danger is. i'm very worried that if we don't look at events around the world and draw what seem to be to be clear conclusions that it will take another tragedy, a tragedy of great dimension to bring america back to its senses. and i have feared for many years that that next tragedy involves a weapons of mass destruction. that is why i focused on iran's nuclear weapons program all theses, north korea and the risk of proliferation generally. if the terrorists could get their hands on a nuclear device, god knows the north koreaians will sell anything to anybody for hard currency. you know, how will that play out for the united states? and i just think that the risk

of this kind of terrorist attack is so acute that people have to be -- we have to have this debate to make people aware of it. and if we do have the debate, it will come out the right way. >> yes ma'am? >> last year i was monitoring a a aring hearing up here on the house. the witnesses were general kelly, commander of south command then admiral pat the commander then of our coast guard. they were discussing the national security threat coming from the south, the absence of our military assets in the caribbean central american region and more accurately general kelly was saying we have the communication assets we can hear what is going on. we are hearing in the coms, chinese, arabic, a new environment now in the

caribbean, russian activity. and in summary he basically identified what is going on south of our border in the region as a threat. could you a address his comments? >> secretary kerry has taken all that into account and he has decided the monroe doctrine is outdated and doesn't apply anymore. i think obviously we are threatened by a lot of interests by adversaries and potential adversaries in the western hemisphere and we governments all around the western hemisphere luke in cuba and venezuela and like in nicaragua and other southern american countries that would be receptive to these sorts of the overtours from these adversaries. even the obama administration indicted high officials of of the iranian revolutionary guards corps for conspiring to murder the saudi arabiaian ambassador in washington by infiltrating

assassins through mexico into the united states. a stunning document when you read it. and yet the president's response to all this is to throw away half a century of american strategy and in effect try and get open full diplomatic relations with the castro regime in cuba. another significant until to our adversaries that everything is up for grabs. and i think ignoring the geostrategic reallots realities that we face is something that we do at our own peril. it as problem for the united states. every president says we need to spend more time on the western hemisphere and then every president doesn't do it. and we really do need to spend more time and more concern with the threats we may face who face here in the hemisphere. i'm quite concerned about it. trouble it and as my i think

entire remarks dem monarchies stray there be so many problems that have fess at thed for six years because the president won't address them when you lay them all out it sounds pretty gloomy and in fact it is pretty gloom createy. if we are not prepared to face up to it as a country or even if we faced up to a limited number of these problems, others would still remain to endanger us or our friends and allies and it is not going to get any better. the presidents simply wrong if he believes that not talking about foreign threats and challenges is going to make them easier to resolve. it doesn't. it obviously makes them harder. i will take one or two more here. yes, sir. >> korean freedom alliance. you fisa of all i would like to -- first of all, i would like to say that i was a really moved by our excellent description of the failure of obama

administration. i think if you become the president i think it will solve the national security problem of ofthe united states. i notice that you haven't mentioned much about north korea. my concern is generally focused on that issue. i think that problem north korean problem as well can be solved by exerting pressure which obama administration is failing to do that because he is afraid of war like in crimea, ukraine problem when united states says that we don't want to war war is too dangerous then the enemy with win without fewing a war at all. >> right. >> if we pressure north korea not afraid of war then that is a way to solve the problem. no war and win over north korea. the worst dictatorship. >> an important question.

i didn't mean to slight north korea. i spent a lot of time worrying about the north korean problem and was duly insulted by the rulers of north korea in my time and still view it as quite an honor that they attacked me. my view is that the only long-term solution to the north korean nuclear weapons threat is to merge the two koreas. that is what we said we were going to do in 1945. the division of the peninsula was supposed to be temporary. obviously a lot of water has flowed under the bridge since then. i think the moment is at hand to make the argument to china that if they are serious that the north korean nuclear capability endanger arers stability in east asia and impair's china's chuck growth and risk -- economic growth and risks the peace which i think is all true then china has to do the unique examsity it has to do and bring the regime down.

it supplies 90% of north korea's energy and food and humanitarian assistance into north korea largely to keep the regime in power and keep the north koreans on their side of the border. i think among younger choy niece lead ares there is an -- chinese lead hes there is an increasing recognition the north core rean regime is an ugly piece of baggage and ultimate li it is in china's interest to see the two koreas united. unfortunately, much of the problem is in south korea which sees unification as a costly burden to them. i think that is a bad reading with what happened with the the reunification of of the two germanys. this would be an enormous accomplishment if we could reunify the two koreas. it would help economic developmenting for and south and stablize the region but it takes time. the chi noose have to be talked to at -- the chinese have to be talked to at some length. what to do with the american

forces on the peninsula. i would be happy to move them from the 38th parallel where they would bo woolridge no longer be needed to a base where they would be available throughout asia. the chinese see the threat of the americans a along the river they saw the movie in 1950 and they didn't like it then and they don't like it now. we can found a way to work this out with china but it takes time and we are not even approaching it. as you i think alluded to instead we just ignored north korea the last six years. that at least is better than making concessions to the north core creians in hopes that they will give up their nuclear program which is no more likely than iran giving up its nuclear program. six years of ignoring the north doesn't mean they have been sittingsitting there. they have made six more years of progress and if you don't think that north korea isn't a global threat ask yourself why north north core rewere in syria building a nuclear reactor that was a clone of their own reactor at

pyongyang until the israelis destroyed it in december of 2007? that is the very definition of a global threat. and i think the relationship between the iranian nuclear weapons program and the north korean nuclear weapons program is one the issues that nobody wants to talk about but i would be amazed if there weren't substantial work between the two. we know they are coop o a red cooperating on ballistic missiles. and that ought to be troubling to everybody. maybe we will take one more here if there is. i'm sorry. i apologize. you are too far to the right. [laughter] >> a concern that i have is that for as important as it is for the u.s. to have enough military power to defend its interest

overseas it seems as though a large number of our allies take our strength for granted and aren't spending enough for their own defense. what can we do to ensure that our allies hold up their end of the bargain? >> welshing i think it is a very legitimate question and a question asked for a long time since in the nato circumstance for example downward trend in defense expenditures by nato allies has been going on for a long time. and i think what is required is and perhaps it is happening now unfortunately if there is a silver lining in this debacle in ukraine that at least in eastern and central europe they understand what is at stake for their own safety's sake and what happens when the united states fades away. but americans for a long time have said we have got to tell the nato allies to do more and we do and they don't and we just act like it doesn't make any difference. i think a new president would

have to take a very strong line inside nato alliance to say we are not going to do this as business as usual again. i think there would be a lot of support for it. this goes to the critical question of american leadership. if you don't lead, don't expect the others to follow if you are not out there. now, by contrast on the pacific side i think the japanese are engaged in a very important and legitimate debate about the post world war ii constitution what it means to be a normal nation and i think they can safely say they are a normal nation and shouldn't a normal nation provide for its own self-defense. i think the japanese will have that debate but i think it is going in the direction of a a logical conclusion that theyville to be more active, especially if the united states is not. so the circumstance is different. different parts of the world. we could have a fascinating discussion about india in that regard too, and how they events playing out on the sub continent

and in asia generally. but all of of this says something about what happens when america withdraws from the world, when it doesn't play the role we need to play not because we are ail truityic. we are not out there doing this for the other countries for their benefit. we are doing it for our benefit. and if we don't do it nobody else is going to do it for us. thank you very much. [applause] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> oregon democratic governor john kitzhaber announced his resignation. he says his resignation will be effective on wednesday. in a statement he says he broke no laws but apologized to the people who helped him get reelected in november and supported him for the past three decades. john kitzhaber maintaind that he and his fiancee worked hard to

avoid conflicts between their roles. here is a portion of the audio statement that was released. >> i'm announcing today that i will resign as governor of the state of oregon. it is not in my nature to hawk away from a job that i are undertaken. it is to stand and fight for the cause so i apologize to all of those people who gave of their faith, time energy and resources to elect me to a fourth term last year and who have supported me the last three deck. i will continue to pursue our shared goals and common cause in another venue. it is deeply troubling to realize we have come to a place in the history of this great tate of ours where a person can be charged, tried, convicted and sense tensed by the media with no due process and in dependent vair fix of the allegations involved but even more troubling and on a personal level has someone who has given 35 years of public service to soriano

that some former allies and common cause have been willing to accept the judgment at its face have you. it is seriously undermining civil engagement in the state and the quality of the public discourse that once made oregon stand out from the pact i understand i have become a liability to the institutions and policies to which i dedicated my career and undeed my ensire adult life. i fully understand the reasons for which i have been asked to resign. i wish the spoker kotek and president core any and their colleagues success in the legislative session and beyond and i hope that they are truly committed to carrying forward the spirit of bipartisanship and cooperation that marked the last four years in oregon. in 1968 i was inspired to commit my life to public service by the last campaign of robert kennedy.

41 years ago i started work as an emergency only doctor in roseburg with a goal to make life be for nose my those in my care. i sought to make things where. i have had the extraordinary privilege of pursuing that work as a state representative, sought senator, senate president and as your governor. over the years i have had the honor to be part of some remarkable achievements. we responded to the worst recession and financial crisis since the great depression by rebuilding an oregon economy. and unlike many other parts of the nation we did it together with cooperation and respect for oregon and for each other. we successfully defended oregon's spectacular natural heritage of clean water, clean air, forest, farmland and special places. we cree yeahed the oregon plan for salmon watersheds and nearly 90 councils. we have also found ways to support the rural communities and cree crate jobs in the

natural resource industries while enhancing the environment. when forces of intolerance south to decide us we stood up for the principle that every oregonian deserves respect and the right to chose and marry the person we love. i'm proud that oregon has not invoked the death penalty. we have stood by our working men and women steadfastly supporting collective bargaining. we have transformed the healthcare system up proving access and quality while lowering costs. tonight over 95% of oregonians will go to bed knowing that they have health insurance coverage. we did that together. in the three day special session we reformed the pub luck pension systemmion provided tax relief to maul businesses and raised new revenue for meant tal health and public education the foundation of our future. communities of color english language learners and those in

poverty, those in rural parts of the state, the very young and the very old. we have laid the groundwork for eliminating the achievement gap and ensuring that over 90 pestrana of our children could be read at level in five years and poised to reach agreements this will resolve the century old water cry is in the kalamath basein'. how we accomplished it is perhaps even more important. we had a great tradition of overcoming partisan differences in state and doing what is right for oregon. that tradition faltered but over the past four years we rebuilt a functional political center reaching across party lines to do difficult important things by reducing polarization and building communities to help right the ship and chart a better course for the future. i ran for a fourth term as your governor to continue that progress but the questions raised about my administration specifically allegations against me concerning the work done by my fiancee in the contracts that

she obtained in the last term and escalating media frenzy that stemmed from this has clearly reached the point of no return. i'm confident that i have not broken any laws nor taken any actions that were dishonest or dishonorable in their intent or outcome. that is whew i i ask the ethics commission and attorney general to talk a full and comprehensive look at my actions and i will fully cooperate with the ongoing efforts. i'm confident ones they have been concluded oregonians will see that i have never put anything before my love for and commitment to oregon and faithfully fulfilling the responsibilities of the public offices. it is also clear that the process will take months. i have always had the deepest respect for the remarkable institution that is the oregon legislature and for the office of the governor. and i cannot in good conscience continue to be the element that underlines it. i have always tried to do the right thing and now the right

thing to do is to step aside. one thing i hope people know about me is that i love this state and its people, its rivers and mountains and its landscapes and every fiber of high being. it is because of that love that i tender my resignation as governor effective at 10:00 a.m. on february 18 2015. secretary of state kate brown will take the oath of office as governor as that time. oregon will be in good hands and i wish her well. thank you for allowing me to serve you and our state. it has been the honor of my life and i believe i can say that looking back over those years we have left it better than we found it. >> oregon does not have a lieutenant governor. the oregon state constitution puts the secretary of state next in line. secretary of state kate brown a democrat is expected to assume the of business and become the first openly bisexual governor

in the country. the governor said his resignation will talk effect next wednesday at 10:00 a.m. pacific time. on the next "washington journal." the georgetown university institute for law talks about white house eck eastboundtive action on cyber security. and brian brown president of the national organization for marriage and susan somer from lambda legal will discuss the state of same-sex marriage in the states and courts. we will take your calls and you can join the conversation on facebook and twitter. washington journal live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. here are some of our featured programs for this president's day weekend. on book tv saturday morning at 9:00, live coverage of the savannah book festival with nonfiction authors and books on topics like the disappearance of

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follow us on twitter. next former hewlett packard c.e.o. discusses politics in new hampshire and then rand paul with remarks at the american spectator magazine gala. after that perry speaks to republican women in new hampshire. carly fiorina who now chairs the american conservative union foundation spoke at a politics and eggs breakfast in new hampshire on tuesday. she has said she is considering a run for the 2016 republican presidential nomination. the politics and eggs breakfast series a dates back to 1996 and is cohosted by the new hampshire institute of politics and the new england council. this is almost an hour. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015]

>> i spent several years in wisconsin before coming to happy holidays and we have a word for days like today. it is culled summer. [laughter] >> it is my great oner to induce our speaker this morning. carly is the former c.e.o. of hewlett packardnd and the first woman to lead a fortune 50 company. before joining hewlett packard she was president of l under cent global and named by fortune magazine as one of the most powerful women in american business. in 2010, carly was the republican nominee for the united states senate from california. she has been a member of many boards including kellogg company, world economic

foundation merck and company and the united states-china board of trade. she currently serves as chair of the unlocking potential project which strives to engage women in the conservative movement. last week i was in washington, d.c. at a board meeting for the national association of independent colleges. our it guest speaker was chuck todd from nbc. i asked chuck who he thought had the greatest potential among candidates that we don't hear about as much as the primary ones today in today's media market and before i could finish the sentence he said without a doubt carly fiorina for her leadership her experience and her ability to relate with people. we are pleased to have carly join us this morning especially sips she traveled in a snowstorm to get here. so ladies and gentlemen, please welcome carly fiorina. [applause]

>> good morning. it as great mr. sure to be with you this morning at the legendary politics and eggs. i know in speaking with many of you that you all are sick of the snow but i think it is quite a beautiful winter wonderland i must say. see specially in this really charming place. a colleague of mine and i drove in from albany new york, yesterday. the mass turnpike was down to one lane but we made it. in any event we arrived here last night and decided decided to have dinner with another colleague warren carney who is here in the restaurant. and if you have never been to the restaurant here, it is really beautiful and charming and the food is delicious. but, we walked in, of course, it is pretty empty last night. except there was a couple tucked into a little corner and they

had and i and to the couple i'm really sorry we're probably disturbing your romantic evening and the woman said, no, this is my brother. good morning and happy to be here. you know whenever i receive a very gracious introduction like that it always sounds sort of smooth and no one's life is smooth. mine hasn't been either. and so i'll start just by telling you a little bit about myself because i think all of us in this room have benefited tremendously from living in this country and from meeting people along the way who have taken a chance on us. and certainly that's true with me.

when i was a little girl about eight years old my mother was my sunday school teacher and gave to me and the rest of her class that year a little plaque and it said what you are is god's gift to you and what you make of yourself is your gift to god. and i thought a lot about those words as i was growing up, probably because i didn't feel very gifted. i was a sort of goody two shoes middle child. my sister was more beautiful and talented and older and my brother was a great athlete and i was stuck in the middle. i went off to college and was fortunate enough to be admitted to stanford university, but i graduated with a degree in medieval history and philosophy. so i was all dressed up with nowhere to go. completely unemployable and so with apologies to the lawyers in the room i went off to law school. my dad was a law professor.

he wanted me to follow in his footsteps and i really hated law school. and i quit after a single semester. now i needed to earn a living full-time. i went back to work doing full-time what i had done part-time to put myself through school. i was some of you in the room are old enough to remember kelly girls. remember kelly girls? i was a kelly girl politically incorrect to say that now. i think it's kelly personnel but we were young women who tire typed and filed and answered the phones on a temporary basis for local businesses. i typed and file in the shipping department of hewlett packard. so i was pretty good typist. and i answered an ad in the want ads and accepted the first job and became a receptionist in a little nine person real estate firm.

i sat in the front of that office and answered the phones and greeted clients and typed and filed. i had no real sense of what my future was like. i just needed to pay the rent. and then about six months into that job two men who worked there came to my desk and they said, you know, we've been watching you and we think you could do more than type and file. do you want to know what we do? do you want to learn something about business? and those two men changed the trajectory of my life. because they saw possibilities in me. and because they saw possibilities in me, i saw possibilities in myself. i travelled all over the world. i have done business in many parts of the world. i've lived around the world. and i know that it is still true in 2015 it's only in this country that a young woman can

start out as a law school dropout and a secretary and become the chief executive of the largest technology company in the world. that's only possible here in the united states of america. and it's possible here because our founders knew what my mother taught me. our founders had what was at the time a radical insight and that radical insight is that everyone has god given gift and potential. and that everyone should have the right and the opportunity to fulfill their potential. that's what they meant when they said life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. and they further had what was at the time a radical insight when they said you know the opportunity and the right to fulfill your potential comes from god and shouldn't be taken away by government. over the course of my experience i learned that absolutely

everyone has god given gifts and absolutely everyone has potential. in fact, right before i came here i was in india for a week. i serve as chairman of an organization called opportunity. we are the largest microfinance organization in the world. we have lent about $8 billion, $150 at a time. 93% of our clients are women and 97% of clients in india are women. in addition to holding a board meeting there, i and others had opportunity to travel to the slums of new delhi to see clients. the slums there are pretty horrific. people are piled on top of one had opportunity to travel to the slums of another. there are mounds of trash, sewage, animals everywhere. and we sat with women to whom we

had given a chance to whom we had given a helping hand. and most importantly of all what we have said to these women is, you have god given gifts. you have potential. you despite your terrible circumstances, you have the capacity to live a life of dignity and purpose and meaning. and we're going to take a chance on you. so amidst this really desperate scene were beautiful courageous women dressed in multi-colored clothing. and in their eyes was a look not of desperation, in their eyes was a look of hope and optimism and confidence and determination to build a better life for themselves and their families.

everyone does have the capacity and the desire to live a life of dignity and purpose and meaning and everyone has more potential than they realize. i tell you that story about those two men because i learned something else that day although i didn't realize it at the time. you see, when i was a young woman i thought that leadership was about the people who had the big offices, the big titles, the big perks, the big parking place and if you had a big office, you must be a leader. and then as i grew older and wiser, i came to realize that there are a lot of people with big offices who do not lead. i also came to learn that management and leadership are two different things. management we're business people we know how important it is. management is the production of

acceptable results within existing constraints and conditions. managers accept the constraints and the conditions within which they operate and do the best they can within those constraints and conditions. it's important. but it's not leadership. you see what i learned from those two men many, many years ago is the highest calling of leadership. it's to unlock potential in others because everyone from those two men has it. and the highest calling of leadership is to unlock potential in others by changing the order of things. not by accepting the constraints and conditions that exist simply because they've always been there but by seeing something different, something better. having a has it. and the vision that says, yes, these women can live a life of dignity and purpose and meaning or this young girl can do more than type and file, or our country can be once again a

place where every american can live a life of dignity and purpose and meaning. leaders you see change the order of things and unlock potential in others. they see possibilities and they focus other's potential on seizing those possibilities. i've travelled all across the country in the last ten years. and i've talked a lot of different people about a lot of different subjects. and one of the things that i sense in this nation is dis quiet. people are afraid we're losing something and people think we're missing something. i think what people think we're losing is what a man told me at a rotary club in new hampshire last summer. i gave a speech at the rotary

club sea coast and a man came up to me and he said, you know, i don't think we think of ourselves as a country of unlimited potential anymore. and i think that's right. i think that's what americans fear we are losing. that sense of limitless possibility. and the sense of limitless possibility if it were worth doing we would do it and that anything we could dream about we could accomplish and that our children's futures would be better than our own. that sense of limitless possibility is as core to who we are as life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. people fear we are losing that and you can see it in poll after poll after poll for the first time. for the first time americans think their children's future will be more con strained than their own. and people, i think, know we're missing something. and i think what people know we're missing is leadership.

the leadership that understands its highest call is to unlock potential in others and understands that its mission is to see and seize possibilities so that this nation can once again be a place of limitless possibility for everyone. and that is why i am giving very serious consideration to running for the presidency of the united states. because i think our nation is at a critical pivotal point. and i think sometimes that the managers win the existing political system, not that they aren't good people, it's not that the bureaucrats within the federal government agencies aren't good people but sometimes people have been within a system for so long they cannot see it for what it is anymore. and they spend all their time constrained by what has always been in place. and cannot see the possibilities

anymore for changing the order of things. you see, i am absolutely convinced that all our wounds are self inflicted. all of our problems represent opportunities as well and we have marvelous opportunities in this the 21st century where more things are more possible for more people than at any time in human history. and so i think we need leadership now that focuses us on three fundamental things. first this must be an economy that allows everyone to find and use their god given gifts and what does that mean? what does that really mean? it it means first that every child actually must have a great education. every worker, every worker who is laid off has an opportunity

to be retrained so that they are qualified for the 21sts century jobs. i remember when the teacher's union in chicago struck was relatively early on in may yore rahm emanuel's tenure. it was pay for performance and the head of the teacher's union took to the mike phones and she said this, we cannot be held accountable for the performance of children in our classroom because too many of them are poor and come from broken families. what was she saying? she was saying if it you're poor and you come from a broken family you don't have potential. you don't have god given gifts. and of course every child wants to learn. it is a natural instinct of children and every child has god given gifts. may i say i think this is the

fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals. i'm a conservative because i know our values and our principals and policies work better to unlock potential in people i know they work better to lift people up and i know that everyone of us is equal to every other one of us. no one of us is better than other. everyone of us has god given gifts and ef one of us needs a helping hand. when i battled cancer i kneed a helping hand. when i was a struggling secretary i needed a helping hand. when we lost our younger daughter, my family needed a helping hand. we all face circumstances where we need a helping hand. but i also know that everyone has the capacity to live a life of dignity and purpose and meaning and i do not believe that some liberals believe this. i think they think that some are smarter than others, some are better than others and so some

will take care of others. they don't say it that way, but actions speak louder than words to me and beare not only denying too many children the opportunity to be educated which is their opportunity to fulfill their gifts and live a life of success, but we also are trapping people in a web of dependancy that it is agonizing to get out of. if you're a single mom with two kids and you want to build your own life, you don't want to be dependant anymore. the choices you have to make to get off our programs of dependance are agonizing. i met a woman yesterday in albany who runs a beauty salon. and so many of her young women she said will say they set goals. where do you want to be in two years and four years and so many of these young women come to her and say, i can't work this many hours because if i do i will

lose my chance to get programs that keep her dependant. what an awful choice we're asking people to make. so we have to make sure everyone has an opportunity at a great education and break this web of dependance and finally we have to make sure that people have jobs. if you ask poor people what they need they'll tell you three things, one, i need a helping hand. two, i need a job. and three, i need transformation in my life. because you see dignity comes from work. so when as conservatives we consider on a work environment on welfare it's because we're trying to save lives. and the only way that our economy will grow at the level it is capable of is if we reinvigorate main street entrepreneurship.

most americans get their chance the way i did, little firm, nine people, three people, 12 people, small businesses family-owned business create two-thirds of the new jobs in this country and employ half the people. i was proud of hewlett packard we had 11 patens a day. in other words small business, family owned business is the growth and innovation engine of our economy. what is happening today? for the first time in u.s. history we are now destroying more businesses than we are creating. 70% of small business owners say government is hostile to them. i'm not talking about -- when i talk about main street entrepreneurship i'm not talking about steve jobs or pwharbg

zuckerberg or bill gates. i'm not talking about that. i'm talking about two guys who started the real estate firm that i worked in and the corner coffee shop and the hair salon. these are the people that drive this economy. and these people are struggling. it's interesting because you know big companies are doing fine. stock markets doing fine. elizabeth warren is right, you know. crony capitalism is alive and well. but elizabeth warren is dead wrong about why. only big business can deal with big business. only big business has resources to hire accountabilities and lawyers and lobbyists. the bigger government gets businesses have to get bigger in order to survive. look what happened to results.

and the community bank banking system that gives family loans and backbone of main street america, the community banking system is struggling and the little guys aren't getting credit because they can't deal with all the complexity that's in place. or you know the results of obamacare as well. whether you like that or not the facts are these. obamacare as a piece of legislation is more words than a harry potter novel and accompanied by 30 plus thousand pages of regulation and no one can understand it. the industry is consolidating to try to deal with it. you got one hospital network here in new hampshire and hospitals all over are consolidating and we don't have a competitive health insurance

marketplace. we never have and we don't now. which is why the second thing that must happen in this nation in order at a people be able to use their god given gifts and fulfill their potential and for this nation once again to be a place of limitless possibility, the second thing that must happen is we must fundamentally reform government. we can't tinker around the edges anymore. our government has become to large and inefficient and so corrupt and so powerful and so costly that it's literally crushing the potential of this nation. and by the way, it's been getting bigger and bigger and bigger for 40 years. imagine a business that got more money every year regardless of its performance. imagine a business where there were no measures for success and imagine a business where investors had no idea how their money was being spent a business

further whose customers had no choices and for which there was no competition. that is the federal government today. fundamental reform is necessary and i believe it takes imagination and vision to think about what's possible in this the 21st century. let me tell you a little story. in 2007, less than ten years ago the iphone was introduced. i mean it's hard to believe. our life has changed so fundamentally in less than a decade. but that set of technological innovations permits any person anywhere to get any piece of information at any time. so here's the story. when i was in the slums of new delhi meeting with these women i asked everyone of them do you own a cell phone and every single of them proudly held up their cell phone. this is my cell phone. it's my husband's but mine.

why did i ask them? because i can deliver a line of credit to a desperately poor woman over a cell phone. but if you are a veteran and you return from the fields of battle you have to spend months filling out paperwork. you have to spend many more months having a bureaucrat somewhere in the v.a. review your paperwork so that they can make sure that you deserve the benefits that you have already earned. and when you're done with all that you got to wait many more months to get an appointment at a v.a. hospital to be seen. this is shameful. and it has been going on for decades. and you know there is a regional headquarters of the veterans administration in winston, salem where the foundations had to be reinforced because the weight of the paperwork on the bureaucrat's desk is damaging the foundations of the building.

what happened when the scandal about waiting times in arizona burst on the front pains. they passed a bill that said that the top 400 senior executives at the veterans administration could be fired if they didn't perform. it's not that that's not important. it's just that it should have happened a really long time ago. and it's not enough to fundamentally reform a system. we cannot unlock the potential of every american in this nation until we get the la vy than of the federal government off the backs of this economy and i believe this takes leadership. and citizenship for that to

happen. the world is a more dangerous and tragic place when america is not leading. i've had the great privilege of traveling all around the world. i know most of the world leaders on the world stage today. and i know that in every problem there is an opportunity. i have met vladimir putin and it's clear when you spend any time with him at all that his ambition cannot be stopped by a gimmicky red reset button. but in vladimir putin's ambition is opportunity for this nation to lead and rebuild the nato alliance and convince our european partners they must invest heavily in her own defense and opportunity as well to rebuild our eastern european defenses which are present and foolishly withdrew. i know i know

i know i know he has no desire to violate protocol. he is coming here because he needs us to hear how dangerous iran is. i remember being in israel five years ago and meeting with them and the head of military intelligence. do you know what all of them wanted to speak about? iran. and it is five years later. and of course we see isis and all the terrorist groups around the world who are trying to compete with them and the cycle of brutality escalating. i was at the national prayer breakfast the other day and sitting next to king abdula's remember active. i know him as well&i thought to myself while our president is comparing isis to the crusades, and betraying a lack of moral

clarity, king abdula goes home promptly executes two convicted terrorists and begins bombing. because he knows that forceful leadership is required in the face of such brutality. [applause] >> hillary clinton one asked what difference does it make? makes a huge difference when our embassiesy is purposefully attacked by terrorists on the anniversary of 9/11 and 4 brave americans including our ambassador are murdered, it matters. and it matters as well and sends a signal around the world where in the only response we give is to arrest one person, one year later and have them in a jail in manhattan. a signal goes around the world.

but in the brutality of isis is an opportunity and the opportunity is this to build a different kind of alliance in the middle east. king abdula said we're in this to win it but everyone must be in it and he was not just talking to his abe rab breathen but america. we face a common enemy to bring together israel and jordan and uae and the iraqis and the egyptians and maybe the turks to defeat the evil but it will not happen without american leadership. we face lots of challenges. we face lots of problems. but the truth is in every problem lies an opportunity. every wound we have is self inflicted. we can fix all of this. we can restore american leadership in the world. we can grow our economy once

again and we can give everyone the opportunity to find their god given gifts and to live a life of dignity and purpose and meaning. but it will require leadership that understands its highest calling as to unlock potential in others and to change the order of things. and it will require citizenship. citizenship on behalf of every american on the part of every american to stand up and say this should be the greatest century in the history of our great nation and we must fulfill the promise of this nation. because we are a force for good in the world and we are the greatest nation on the face of the earth and in all human history. thank you so very much, ladies and gentlemen. [applause] >> thank you so much.

thank you. thank you. i think we are going to take a few questions. works as we are going to do do do questions, -- >> if you are going to take a few questions i , can direct them. who has a question? yes? >> my name is rob warner. how would you change the order of things and declare american leadership globally with the challenge of climate change. >> so i think we need to look at the entire science. so there is a lot of consensus among scientists that climate change is real, that human activity contributes to it. there is also absolute consensus among those same scientists that a single nation or a single

state acting alone can make no difference at all. and so what i resent, frankly, is when people use half the science to destroy lives and livelihoods in coal mining communities because it will not make any difference at all. when people use half the science to destroy lives and livelihoods in the central valley of california, an area, the richest agricultural land in the world that has been decimated and destroyed in a man-made drought because of climate change. and i believe the answer to this problem is to understand the science. we can shut down everything in this country and it will make no difference because the scientists are clear. in order to really combat this we need an effort that is global

in scope over many decades costing trillions of dollars. and so i believe, as with many problems, the answer to this problem is not regulation, it is innovation. and frankly speaking, the epa is shutting down every ounce of innovation in this area and i do not think we are paying attention to all of the science. i think too many politicians are paying attention only to the part of the science that confirms their ideology. so let's understand the science and let's innovate. >> think we have one over your. -- over your career -- over her e. >> good morning, morgan. i was interested in your story about being a medieval history major. >> i bet you are. [laughter] >> largely because the people from the institute of art would tell you that the liberal arts have been the backbone of the

higher education community and yet today we are telling students they have to go into stem, they have to go into science and they should not study what they love. i think as you know, you study what you love and eventually you find your way. i wonder if you can talk about the opportunity for education and opportunities for students. >> with pleasure, because as i say to young people all the time, do not worry about getting the perfect job, just get a job. because whatever job you get you will learn something about yourself, the people around you you will learn skills that will hope you get a better job. -- hope you get a better job. -- help you get a better job. let me tell you why i was a medieval history student because i had a great teacher. you have a great teacher that inspires you to learn about. something.

but let you about something else. the most valuable course i took was a gradual course in medieval -- graduate course in medieval philosophy. why? because every week, we had to read a work of medieval philosophy. maimonides, aquinas. these were not brief guys. [laughter] any, -- hey, these were big weighty tomes. every week we had to read one of those volumes, works. and turn in a two-page paper that summarized it. we process i went through was i would first write 20 pages and i would get it down to 10 and then to five and finally to two pages. and what did i learn in that process? i learned how to think, i learned how to separate the really significant from the less meaningful. i learned how to make judgments.

what do you learn in philosophy, among other things in life? you learn about ethics. you see, as different as this 21st century is, and technology and globalization make it very different in many ways from any other century that comes before it. but as different as the century is, there are some things that remain the same. judgment matters. ethics count. character is everything. and the ability to separate all of the stuff that is around us and decide, you know, this is just superficial and this is really important, those are skills that last a lifetime. and so i think it is a tragedy when we are even contemplating saying, we are going to judge your colleges on the basis of --

four-year colleges on the basis of starting salaries of students. it is a tragedy that the government thinks the solution is to nationalize the student debt programs. which -- what happens when you get rid of competition? what happens when you get rid of competition? it happens every time it reached go up and services go down. -- every time it. rates go up and services go down. i come from the most hypercompetitive, these regulated industry in the world and it is the one industry that produces greater value at lower prices. there are a lot of things we have to get right. i think like any organization, higher education has to look in a mirror and say what else can we be doing to be efficient and effective and wise stewards of taxpayers or donors generosity. and stewards of the lives that parents have put in our charge. >> we probably have time for one more. in the back. >> r.i.m jerry brown.

-- i am gary brown. what is your attitude about the immigration battles that are going on right now? >> so immigration, it is important that we remember that immigration has been the lifeblood of this nation. and it is important as well to remember that, as many have said, this is a nation of laws. so here is what i would do. i think first, we have to secure the border. it is important we secure the border for three reasons. one -- sorry. one, because if we do not secure the border, the problem that we currently have keeps getting worse as has been demonstrated. over the past several years. secondly, we have to secure the border because do we doubt for a moment that our enemies have not figured out that our borders are porous? do we not think about isis --

that isis or the various other terrorist organizations are prime to exploit the porous border -- writing to exploit the poorest -- trying to exploit the porous border? and third, we have to secure the border because we obviously can do so. the most fundamental responsibility of government is to secure the borders and the homeland and when government does not do basic things, people lose faith in government. they begin to lose trust in government and that loss of faith and trust is corrosive. so we have to secure the border. we have to fix, secondly, our legal immigration system. our legal immigration system has been broken for decades. it is an example of tinkering around the edges. we have been tinkering with the legal immigration system for decades and as a result we have 16 different visa programs.

we send home the wrong people, we let in the wrong people, many of the people, as many as half that are here illegally have overstayed visas. we have to fix it. and finally, we have to decide what to do with the people who are here illegally. i believe there should come a point in time when they can gain legal status and work. but i think there have to be consequences for breaking the law. and so for me, i would say those who have come here illegally will not have the opportunity to become citizens. they may have legal status but they have foregone the right for citizenship because there are consequences for breaking the law and there have to be consequences for all of those who have followed below and worked hard to become citizens. in the end, temporary measures such as the president took right

before christmas, temporary measures make the problem worse, not better. it is an example of a problem where leadership and citizenship is required it is an example of , a problem that has been festering for a long time and we are playing political football with it and have been tinkering around the edges for a very long time. thank you. thank you for having me, i have really enjoyed it. thank you. [applause] courts i think that -- >> i think that the microphone wanted a snow day. on behalf of the new england council and city and saint anselm college, i want to thank you for coming today. usually at this point we give the mug out, but that is documents novak. i think you will get -- start in the snow. it -- stuck in the snow bank.

i think you will get commemorative snowshoes. thank you all for coming, thank you. [applause] [indiscernible]

>> this one is for me. for my daughter, she is three. >> what is her name? beautiful name. "the new york times -- >> her middle name is rachel. >> and then for my husband. >> yes sir. >> the last one is for the president of the institute. >> there you go. that's ok. that's all right.

>> thanks for coming. >> hi. >> thank you so much. >> heard you speak three weeks ago. i am the dean of arts and sciences. >> so nice to meet you. >> i have the same experience unit in stamford, i cleaned houses -- you did in the stanford, i cleaned houses. >> thank you so much. >> ok.

>> maybe that is a little easier. thank you. >> all right. [indiscernible] >> good morning, thank you very much, thank you for coming to new hampshire. >> ok.

[indiscernible] >> thank you so much. >> thank you very, very much. i am interested in finding out how conservative women's and get more involved. >> you may speak to that lady or an art, where is anna -- lady right they are or not, where is anna? [indiscernible] >> thanks, i really appreciate

it. >> where are you headed back to? >> new england. [inaudible] >> might have been a delay today, i am not sure. thank you so much again. thank you. >> thank you. >> we are going to have a five-minute and call on everyone. let's hear first. >> who am i talking to your? -- here? >> you guys can go ahead.

[indiscernible] >> should they be deported? >> i think it is probably not practical but i also think we can take legal steps. [indiscernible] [indiscernible]

>> he is a great man and would have made a great president. >> are you ready? >> you are seriously considering a run for the presidency. [indiscernible] >> i don't have much concern about that, i think we are a long way out and many republican voters do not know who i am. there is an opportunity to meet a lot of people and it is way too early to worry about

polls. [indiscernible] >> to continue to move about the country in forums like this. [indiscernible] >> i think that is very true. >> next question. anybody else? ok. thank you so much. >> you are welcome. you want me to sign the rest of these? >> two more minutes.

[indiscernible] >> i will take your card. >> all right, we will be in touch. thank you, thank you for coming. >> mind if i get an eight from you -- egg from you? [indiscernible] >> he warned me.

>> sorry that things did not work out at the house party. there are 50 people that want to be there so they rescheduled. >> sometimes it is best to go with the flow and services not going to work very well -- say this is not going to work very well. do you want them an egg? or are you too cool for that? >> no. >> one for you.

[indiscernible] >> mitt romney, actually. [indiscernible] >> good. >> good to see you again. >> thank you so much. >> take care. >> i am just going to make sure [indiscernible] >> you can always tell when i say that, the women around the room. >> get a job and make your way. >> thank you so much. >> you are so [indiscernible]

>> would you like an egg? >> she invited me. >> i called morgan. >> let me get you another one. >> it is hard enough sitting down by standing up, i just cannot do it -- but standing up, i just cannot do it. >> great. [indiscernible] >> if you go to the iowa freedom summit. >> thank you, so right.

-- so great. >> next, kentucky senator rand paul offers remarks at the "american spectator" magazine gala. embed rick perry speaks to republican women in new hampshire. -- and then rick perry speaks to republican women in new hampshire. >> this president's day on the c-span networks, on c-span at 10:00 a.m. eastern. >> to provide that leadership is our challenge and that is why today i probably announced my candidacy for president of the united states of america. >> -- probably announced my candidacy for president of the united -- propudly amounts my

candidacy -- announce my candidacy for president of the united states. at noon eastern, pulitzer prize winner david brian davis on his third and final volume on the history of slavery. elizabeth argues we are undergoing a six mass extinction as a result of human action. elizabeth warren talks about wealth and economic inequality. american history tv on c-span3 cartoonist patrick oliphant draws 10 presidential caricatures as a historian discusses the president's. at 7:00 p.m. eastern, an interview with herbert hoover discussing his life beyond the presidency.

at 9:30, our conversation with a playwright about before the theater presentation of "the widow lincoln." find the complete television schedule on c-span.org and let us know what you think about the programs you are watching. call us, e-mail us, or send us a tweet. join the c-span conversation .like us on facebook/, follow us on twitter. >> kentucky senator rand paul attended the "american spectator" gala on wednesday. he defended the 2013 government shutdown and criticized hillary clinton for the benghazi attack. this is almost half an hour. >> i go to a lot of barbecues.

i think i might need to alter my jackets, they are getting a little tight. i was at a barbecue in kentucky and the guy in front of me had a plate of barbecue. he was loading up another plate of barbecue. i said, you are not going to live long eating like that. he said my grandfather lived to be 105 years old. i said, i bet your granddad lived to be a hundred and 5 -- did not get to live to be 105 by eating like that. he said, note, -- nope, he lived to be 105 years old by minding his own business. [laughter] when we talk about the leave me alone coalition, we are talking about people who say to the government, leave me alone, mind your own damn business. [applause] if you want a unifying theme that brings together people on the right and left, talk about

leaving people alone. you can give that speech at cpac and at berkeley. it is received. people want to be left alone. what unites us isn't big government, it is a small government that wants us to leave us alone. it's also a lot less expensive to have a smaller government that leaves people alone. it is extraordinarily expensive to try -- pry your way into people's lives. we had a shutdown of the government a year ago. you may remember. everybody squawked, everybody in washington rang their hands and pulled their hair and said we cannot shut the government down. i go back to kentucky and they say why did you open it back up? [laughter] when i first came to washington i introduced a bill to cut $500 billion at one time. people said no way, that's crazy. you can't do that. i get home and they say what

about the $18 trillion debt? what are you going to do about the debt? people have wildly different expectations at home. nobody in this city city knows anything about america. [applause] i will give you an example. i'm on the foreign relations committee. i put forward an amendment that said that we should not send taxpayer money to countries that persecute christians. two countries that would have the death penalty, or life imprisonment for blasphemy apostasy, or god forbid, interfaith marriage. there are 25 countries that will put you in prison for the rest of your life or execute you. so i've proposed an amendment and asked people at home. i'm still trying to find someone at home who would not be in favor of this amendment. on the foreign relations

committee it got to votes. 18 votes said no. we have to give them money. you have to project power by giving people money. frankly, you don't project power from bankruptcy court. [applause] so the government shutdown, you may remember. that the president was concerned. he was worried that in flyover country where i live they may not notice the government was shut down. do you remember the government was shut down? the first thing you need to know is two thirds of your government is on autopilot. it never shuts down. it would take an extraordinary effort to even slow down the two thirds of government that is entitlement. we were talking about one third of government. we were only talking about half of one third because we did but -- we did what we should do and we supplied the money for national defense.

we are talking about a sixth of the government. president was like they may not notice. it was in a terrible message to the country if they did not notice the government was closed. so he closed down the overpass 50 miles from mount rushmore. he had to send people out to put the cones to close the overpass, which was where you pull on the side of the road. he decided he would wrap the world war ii monument, that has no entrance. it has no exit. the only way you can close it, it has no attendant. the only way you can close it is by wrapping it. so hundreds of workers, i guess getting over time, they are unionized. the first work they had done in years, they had to close the world war ii monument. so they proceeded to wrap it hours and hours, chain-link fences. i tell people who don't understand america, don't understand we need to shut the

damping down, i tell people -- dam thing down, the image you need to remember, of closing the government down, when the world war ii veterans got off their bus, took the wire cutters, and threw it on the lawn of the white house. [applause] it would be a useful exercise if we actually did close down government. after government was closed for a week or two we got a notice. in my office. and it said you must list your essential and nonessential employees. i said this sounds like a learning experience. maybe we can figure out what is wrong with government if we actually went from top to bottom and decided what is essential and what is unessential? i said to myself, call the irs and see what their numbers are. 95%, unessential. call the epa. 98% unessential.

and i thought we are going to learn something here. until i figured out this is washington. and nothing is as it seems. it turns out, if you are unessential during a government shutdown, you don't have to work. but you still get paid. everybody wanted to be unessential. so they are going down the rolls, at the epa, and they get to these workers. they were perplexed. they found one guy had not been to work in months. they did something extraordinary. they went to his boss and said the sky, jonathan beale -- this guy, jonathan beale had not been , to work in months. why is he getting promoted, why is he getting raises? he was the second-highest paid person of the epa. he created every regulation for the last 20 years. this guy is a big deal. you said, -- they said, why

isn't yet work? he also works for the cia. really? the epa and the cia. then they did something really extraordinary, government has never done this before and never will again. they asked somebody at the cia. have you heard of jonathan veale? they said jonathan who? here is what they discovered. he does not work for the cia. never did. he had been going on for 11 years. he is gina mccarthy's right-hand man. do you know what his specialty is? global warming. they find out he has been doing this for 11 years. they finally fired him. he is going to prison, if he is not already. even on the way out they could not do it in the proper way. anybody in corporate america would have fired him. he would not be eligible for pensions and this and that. even on the way out they could not do the right thing. i'm imagining what this guy's life must've been like.

for 11 years. his boss calls him, jonathan, we have not seen you. are you coming in? i imagine him at his house. i imagine he has got a swimming pool. he makes $150,000 a year. you know how many people make when thousand dollars a year in the government -- $100,000 a year in the government>? 100,000 people make under that a year. i imagine he is drinking a beer, he is in his lounge. the boss calls him. here is his response. no, i'm in istanbul on a secret assignment. [laughter] so they get to the point where they are going to fire him. do you know what they do? he says he will resign. what does gina mccarthy said? considering the regulations you've written, that will be fine. we will let you resign. seven months later they discovered he is still working there. and he's like, nobody noticed

for seven months that they paid him. he's like i changed my mind. i'm not sure. they finally put him in jail. so he's in jail, he owes you about $1 million that he stole over time. good luck getting it back. the president says he is not sure where we would cut. they have cut to the bone. they don't know where they would cut. so i've sent the president a couple of letters giving him some suggestions. but i have not got any answers. i haven't gotten any answers. i suggested a few things. for example, remember when we were talking about ebola russian -- ebola last year? everybody was going crazy about ebola, the republicans did not spend enough that the nih. it turns out, the budget had been going up for years and years at nih. do you know how much they spent on ebola? one 40th of the bucket was being spent on ebola.

we did discover they spent $1 -- object was being spent on ebola -- budget was being spent on ebola. we did discover they spent $1 million trying to determine whether male fruit flies like younger female fruit flies. i think we could've polled the audience and saved $1 million. we spent millions last year developing rollup beef jerky. i like beef jerky as much as anyone else but why is the government developing beef jerky? we spent $2.4 million on origami condoms. i'm in the leave you alone coalition. so i don't care whether you buy condoms. but does the government have to pay for origami condoms? we spent a half million dollars developing a menu for mars. if you have a 26-year-old kid in your basement, it is a great job. $5,000.

develop a menu for mars. where would you do it? hawaii, it looks just like the moon. it looks like a planet. they went to hawaii. all-expenses-paid, $5,000 stipend. a bunch of college kids. they were there for two weeks. what did they come up with? on the menu for mars? pizza. [laughter] so when we get to mars, and we are going to have pizza, do you know how we will have the pizza made? we spent $125,000 developing a 3-d printer for pizza. i guess you are going to carve the 3-d printer there to make your pizza. everything in washington is broken. nothing works here. we can't run the post office. we are not to be trusted with money. congress is not good with money. we shouldn't he trusted with almost any responsibility. most of government should be shut down and sent back to the

states. [applause] people ask me, what is the worst thing the president has done? that could take me a while. we don't have all night. what is the worst thing? is it obamacare, dodd frank, this regulation or that regulation? and i said no, it is the usurpation of power. it is the collapse of the separation of powers. it is the ending of the equilibrium. although the equilibrium between congress and the presidency has been shifting and listing the wrong direction for a long time. it is the collapse of the checks and balances. montesquieu wrote that when the executive begins to legislate, then a form of tyranny will ensue. there is a great danger. and i tell people, it isn't just about how bad this president is.

it is how bad the next one might be. and the next one after that. i will never forget, the only thing good that came out of the kilo decision, or you can take people's property. you can take it for private use. one of the worst decision in supreme court history. under there are a lot of bad supreme court decisions. so i go to the mayor of my town. one of the things, it spawned these votes. in my town we are not going to do that. my mayor's answer was but i'm a good person. and i would never take anyone's land. government is not about whether people are good or bad. madison said if government were comprised of angels we would not need any of these rules. but frankly open your newspaper. turn on your television. it is not comprised of angels,

never has and never will be. we have to have rules. the constitution is about -- is not about restraining you, it is about restraining government. [applause] when i think of the scandals of this president, which is the worst? i think of old mcdonald's farm. here a scandal, there is scandal everywhere a scandal. when i think of the scandals when i think hurts me to worse and angers me the most, it has to be benghazi. at this point, is it ok, you took the gloves off. can i say something about the clintons? all right. i wasn't sure, this is a pretty moderate crowd. we do not need to mention the cattle futures or how they are hard up for money.

i think things have turned around for them. i know it's not much but $200,000 an hour, someone has to be able to live on that. so i think it will be ok. i did worry about them for a while. their finances were down and things were terrible but they seem to bounced back. they know the right people. with benghazi, there is an important lesson. once again, they said republicans didn't provide enough money. not true. but if you look at the sequence of benghazi from the beginning of that year, from january on, it was one thing after another. first there were six special forces guys that were dismissed. not dismissed, brought home. why were they brought home? we didn't want to offend the libyans. we didn't want them to see guns. we didn't want them to see people in uniform. we wanted to make sure we knew that we trusted them. we have to be very careful about our presence there. the soldiers were told not to wear their boots, military boots. to keep their weapons hidden. not to show weapons.

this went on for months and months. one team was sent home. then another team was sent home. we get to march of that year. all along, the diplomatic mission keeps saying we feel vulnerable. we are not sure about sending these people away. we're not sure about relinquishing security. so in about march and april of that year they asked for a d.c. three to ferry them around in case they needed to get from one place to the other. rejected. about three days after they rejected the plane, the ambassador in vienna requested and got $100,000 for an electrical charge in station for a chevy volt. seems he has a fleet and he wants to show off how green we are. i am on before relations committee, -- the foreign

relations committee, half of the meetings are about how global warming is the biggest threat to our existence. it is an existential threat. they are worried about global warming. we get these charging stations. we cannot give them a d.c. 3. we have an electrical charging station for the ambassador of vienna who is greening up the place. we spent $100,000 sending comics to india. i imagine that was a barrel of laughs. not enough money for security, they say. we spent $5 million in the state department, did i mention hillary clinton's state department. $5 million, but we did not have enough money for security and benghazi. they spent -- hillary clinton state department spent $650,000 on ads to get more facebook friends for the state department facebook. all along, letting people go. security after security. we get to august.

there is a 16 person security detail theirre led by colonel wood. he said we ought to stay. the ambassador thinks we ought to stay. the cables become more frantic. the cables are sent home saying we think that we are at risk for an all-out assault. 9/11 comes. of course, the attacks had nothing to do with the anniversary, it was a film remember. august 16, he sends more cables home. the attack happens. the killing of the ambassador happens. we have hillary clinton and i asked her, did you read the cables? chicago brushed me off as if, -- she kind of brushed me off as if i'm too important to have read those cables. maybe you didn't read the cable asking for more glassware in bulgaria.

but this was a cable saying we have a life and death problem here. and you didn't read the cables. i looked at her, and said to her, that by your actions, by your dereliction of duty, by not providing security for americans mission in benghazi, you have absolutely precluded yourself from ever being considered for higher office. [applause] to get bigger, bolder, to win elections in our country, we do have to reach it out. we have a bigger party. the party has to look like america. with tattoos without tattoos. with long hair, without long hair. with earrings you name it. , we have to look like america. black, white, rich, poor. lincoln wrote, he said i find

mercy to bear richer fruit than strict justice. i like the quote. and when i think of the quote, i think of how do you find justice ? many believe in redemption, in second chances. many of us believe justice is a balancing act between punishment and rehabilitation. many of us think that violent criminals frankly sometimes do have to be separated and should be separated for a long time, or maybe forever from the rest of us. but many of us believe that if you have been convicted of a nonviolent crime, maybe you deserve a second chance. i think there is room in the concept of justice for discernment. we have had a lot of bad stories out there and a lot of unrest. there is an undercurrent of unease. something is going on in our country. but i tell people we also need to remember that every day there are stories going on that are

actually more heartwarming, and don't get reported. the media's all about bad stuff, not good stuff. just before christmas this year, helen johnson has two daughters, has four kids of those daughters at home. she is the one in charge. the kids have not eaten for two days. i don't know their circumstances. but she has not eaten for two days. she goes to the grocery store with $1.25. she is a dollar short. this is north of birmingham. she decides she is going to steal and. -- steelal eggs. she puts in her pocket. it wasn't to be her day. the eggs broken her pocket. she is then caught by the police. when you talk about justice, and discernment, the story of william stacy, the local police officer who came in, it is an amazing story and should teach us a little more about who we are and how we want to present our message of conservativism.

he did not put her in handcuffs. he scolded her. he told her that you cannot steal. and he bought the eggs for her. i'm not saying we don't -- that we don't have punishment for crime. i'm not saying that at all. but i'm saying that there are times when we say you know what, putting people in jail for 20 years for selling marijuana may not be the best thing. people may deserve a second chance. i went to ferguson. not to make a comment about the shooting. i think everybody has heard about that and knows it was a messy affair with no real clear cut conclusions i think that people want to make on this. when i got there, i found an undercurrent of unease. but i am finding about america. martin luther king talked about there being two americas. an america where people felt they were treated justly, and an america where they did not like they were. you are not part of that. but imagine what it is like to be poor and to get a $100 fine,

to have interest out of that, it to be getting people in jail for that. we have to figure out what justice is. civil forfeiture has put justice on its head. [applause] about a month ago in philadelphia, a teenage boy sold $40 worth of illegal drugs. the government to the house barricaded the house -- the house, barricaded the house and , evicted the family. these are poor, black, brown families that are disadvantage and don't see justice. in ferguson there were 31,000 arrest warrants last year for 21,000 people. mostly just petty stuff. but people's lives can spin out of control because of this. i think if we show compassion and if we understand that the big government can't run the post office. big government screws everything

up big government screwed up the justice system. we are going to show compassion for those who have been left behind and incarcerated unfairly. i think you're going to find that our message will resonate and is going to resonate beyond the bounds of where it is. when we show that, you know what what the other side has tried to do for poverty for 40 years has not worked. when we show that we have the ability, the compassion, the plan to make things better, when we can be judged on whether we care, but on whether our policies work, i think then we have always had the intellectual argument and then we win the emotional argument, we become a dominant force, america grows by leaps and bounds, and we have that are looking for witches once again a great america -- which is once again a great america. >> that, warmer texas governor rick perry discusses issues -- maxed, former texas governor rick perry discusses issues with

republican women in new hampshire. then a senate hearing on global threats. >> tear are future programs for presidents' day weekend. on book tv, live coverage of the sea that a book festival -- savannah book festival. sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern former senior adviser for president obama david axelrod. on american history tv on c-span3, saturday morning the 100th anniversary of the release of the film "birth of a nation." the showing of the entire film followed by a live call-in program with the civil war historian and author. saturday, on the presidency,

george washington portraits focusing on how artists captured the spirit of the first president. find the complete schedule at c-span.org and let us know what you think about programs you are watching. call us, e-mail us, or send us a tweet. join the c-span conversation. like us on facebook, follow us on twitter. >> former republican texas governor rick perry spoke to a meeting of the seacoast republican women on wednesday. he discussed a range of issues, including immigration and border security and the economy. he ran for president in the 2012 primaries and is considering another campaign in 2016. this is just under an hour. [indiscernible]

>> that is a great facility. i go down there, pretty often actually. the burn center is there, a lot of kids. >> i was there during vietnam. >> wilford hall. it was right outside. there was a facility, fort sam. -- it was such a great place. they have had some changes. >> five years ago, it was so

different. >> when i got out of pilot training in 1973, they had a 130 unit. 35's and b-52s. for some reason i think they had a unit there a 130 outfit. >> were they guppies? >> it was a little more modern than that, it was the js now and they have been around for 50, 60 years. >> that is incredible. >>'s last year is 60 years. a great airplane, we still use them.

i flew out of kuwait city into baghdad and i think -- andin i think 07. it belonged to a guard unit. it was like a 68, 69 model. >> bill livingood. -- built them a good. >> new things on it, what is needed. it is a good transition. a lot of times, you have crack and yous think it is the end of the world but it works out good. >> not much experience, i have been having lunch. you have done a good job. -- they have done a good job. >> i think they have a new

hampshire air guard as a refueling thing there, i think that is correct. still flying tankers. >> was some ordinance on. -- put some ordinance on. >> that has been out of the inventory for a while. [laughter] >> he said, come on over. i went again. [indiscernible] that was great. [indiscernible] maybe you ought to rethink the whole thing. [laughter] >> it is what it is.

>> are you driving? >> i am not doing everything. when you all have governors. [indiscernible] that is right, you have two years. i have been fortunate. i am a much better driver than i was when i got here. my wife says you are a lot better driver than you were last year. [indiscernible] my idea was to sit back. all right now. we have a car, that we kept for

our daughter, i filled it up with gas and got it all the interstate. so anyways, i go shopping. i still say, average citizen, 14 years. a good driver. so i have been driving and my wife says, you are a lot better driver now than you were. [laughter] >> she has gotten older though. >> she is still a good judge of my driving ability. i will take that. anyway, thank you. we are going to wait, i am going to say hi folks. [indiscernible] >> thank you, thank you so much.

this is one of my favorite people. >> stuck with speaker in the house. >> he and i knew each other, and i was trying to think. steve and i were commissioners back in the 1990's. it was really beautiful. >> steve is a great guy. >> really good man. >> two tours of the speakership. three. two separate, back to back. >> two tours. [indiscernible]