don't know if you follow the story of the pakistani nuclear scientist who stole technologies from europe, brought it back. he is a national hero in pakistan. he lives in the open. he created the capacity to do just as you are describing in pakistan and was caught trying to export that technology to where ? iran and libya. what you are describing is not something -- they have tried. you have absolutely tried -- they have absolutely tried. we have to be real about this. they are trying. that is why engagement in the proliferation efforts that are ongoing are hugely important. l ook, the more i get into this stuff, there are some things

were you just go, holy. [laughter] as the rest of the world gets weak and more insular we have to be more engaged because these things will occur. great question. >> is is and it is going to have to be the last one. governor, we in chicago and the council hugely appreciate your time and the opportunity to take your principles from your remarks and to have a conversation with all of us around those principles. and we are truly pleased and privileged to have the first opportunity to do so. >> thank you.

[applause] >> a reminder. if you missed the speech you can see it again later in our program schedule and it c-span.org. looking ahead to 2016, the hill writes that bush is quoting public and lawmakers -- republican lawmakers. he has rounded up the firm backing of five members of the florida gop congressional -- marco rubio is also mulling a presidential run. he only has one clear backer. and 35 minutes, we will take you live to the white house. the summit has been going on all day long. we will pick up the afternoon session at 2:45 p.m. the three day event began yesterday. it looks at radicalism recruiting.

john chambers, chairman and ceo of cisco talks about the digital preservation of cities and countries around the world. hillary clinton and her potential as a 2016 -- and countries around the world, as well as hillary clinton and her potential as a 2016 candidate. >> babies and>> ladies and gentlemen, please take your seats. our program is about to begin. >> good morning, ladies and gentlemen. thank you very much for being with us this morning. i am terry baker.

it is a pleasure to welcome you all. we quiz some of the leading ceos of the u.s. and the world. thank you for coming out on this very busy morning in new york. you fight your way through traffic and police there is -- you foster way through traffic and -- fought your way through traffic and police barriers. it is appropriate this morning that we have with us john chambers, chairman and ceo of cisco. he is coming up on his 20th anniversary. congratulations.

we looking very much forward to hearing from john. my colleague, among his talents, recently came a father for the second time. if you noticed dennis nodding off, don't take it personally. it has nothing to do with the quality of the conversation but the quality of the sleep you can follow this event afterwards. if you get a chance, you can watch it all again. if it is exciting, you can watch it again and again and again on a permanent loop. this is very much a participatory event. we will

have plenty of time for questions and answers. be ready for that. once again, thank you for being here. >> thank you. a beautiful morning here in new york. john chambers, thank you for joining us. you recently predicted that over the next 10 years, some of the biggest technology companies will not be around. tell us about who they are and when they are going to go down. [laughter] go right to it. talk to us about it. >> if you look at high-tech industry, we have always been spartan. if i would take a step back, not one of my competitors exist.

a host of startups, they pulled out. 10 to 15 years. ago our competitors should have crushed us. and yet we're the size of all of them combined. people were worried about us three years ago. it is not cisco i'm talking about. i'm talking about how fast the industry is changing. out of five companies, three of us will not be relevant to our customers. if you look at the enterprise customers in this room, only three of you will be relevant. you're going to see transitions. look at the taxi industry, amazon airbnb -- you will see

those types of transformations come everywhere in the world. we are going to be right at the center of it. the internet will connect 5 billion devices. >> people get excited and feel threatened. >> they can buy equipment. >> you have a booth out front i'm sure. most businesses, whether they like it or not, our technology businesses. we have a lot of ceos in here. tell us about things that are changing. that technology and business decisions are merging. >> all of us in the high-tech industry have for decades has said should you --

in the last 18 months, if you were to talk to the new ceo of walmart for example he describes himself as a technology business first. they think entirely different in terms of image and how technology will give a different interface to customers and allow them to moewv in them -- to move in a market. if you talk to germany's chancellor, she says the future of their country is digital. i met with the key leaders in france. they're looking at how to digitize countries to make them competitive. israel is probably the most

high-tech companych country in the world. cisco was a partner all the way through it. as the number of devices go to a thousand to 500 billion -- 5 billion, our goal was to be in that. traditionally, he turned to the cio and say, educate me on this. it is not an option anymore. most ceos around the world believe they have to understand the technology themselves. their key advisors understand the technology. if the cio does not make the

transition they will be a group off to the side. this is where the cio has to change. >> so a cio will be irrelevant in five years. there you go. all right. >> if the ceo does not change, he or she will take their company down with them. >> the people hiring in this room today, should they be hiring for financial proficiency or technology proficiency? >> our education group is not a --does not do a good job. you have to think about had young people think -- how do people think?

what should the leaders in this room do? i try to get people who understand the business and technologies. >> let's talk about the sales culture. sales itself has been business changing. can you give me an example of how you reach your customers? how technology is a pending this -- a pending this -- upending this? >> we have to transform. we can sell routers and switches. we are transforming -- we were number one or number two. it is easy to say and hard to do.

how dohow do we as a company -- >> we know that productivity from the early 90's to mid 90's -- there is a missing productivity cu quotient. why should we believe that that will change? >> where you are leaving me as -- you have to catch a market transition. during the 90's, the entrance was the driver -- the internet was the driver.

we did very good on collaboration. you basically changed the base of your customers. what you're about to see is you connect these devices and think about 500 billion devices squared, where this will go, the challenge is how do you get the right information at the right point in time to the right device, the right person, to make the right decision. that is about architecture and transforming the business process. how countries are run is about to change. you have to have the instincts. you talk to mexico, -- how does

the transfer me to segment of business. can we still avoid to where we get people excited about it? >> there has been a lot of money spent. people in this room have spent billions of dollars. maybe that will be the case. i think people are looking for statistic examples of that. >> sure. let's go to a city transformation. barcelona. basically, the mayor and the vice mayor, in your city, that is with the power is. they outline the goal of

completely transforming the city. they're the only balanced budget in southern europe. they operate with a surplus. they have three billion dollars of savings over 10 years. they are networking their whole city. they will change how public transportation works. buildings are going to move to smart buildings with electricity p they will do paid parking. >> how long does that take? >> three years. also, in terms of implementation -- let's go to hamburg -- >> but debt -- but what does it cost? $25 million a year? >> not a bad payback or the potential. they will even go down to smart garbage collection. everything will be connected. they only pick up your garbage when it needs to be picked up. you cannot do these in silos and you get your payback by combining these functions together. that is where the mistakes are

made. people get excited about one area. the way to make people comfortable is to say i have the references to do it. hamburg in germany, the port of hamburg, it has 82 different train stations, 1200 ships a year, tens of thousands of trucks. they basically took technology in turn their whole existing systems on their heads, having 75% and improvement in productivity or costs. they will double their capacity and annexed five to 10 years without any increase in revenue at all in terms of implementation. and then they will tie it to their chest rotation company purity think well, that is a railroad committee. the ceo is using mobility. they're going to move to bicycles and cars, transportation, different customer experiences. you see a country like germany who lived in the industrial revolution where the government leaders and business leaders are

saying i am going to transform myself. the president of france is in a tough situation. he is thinking about what to change. if you watch what he is doing and he is an unbelievably good prime minister with him, and he understands how to transform his country. he is willing to say, how do we do this with companies? how do you partner with commerce? how do they put technology into each of the companies, and how did the companies guarantee one million jobs in growth? perhaps is is go with this concept could be right in the middle. >> back to cells, you are operating at a head of state level at this point. tell us about making that sell -- ms. merkel, you have a few things on your plate, i would like to sell you a connected port. then what happens? do you say, would i cut the check? what is that like?

>> let's use israel. even if identify what a country wants. they want gdp growth. the second thing they want is jobs. they have to include 2 million arabs in israel and the working force, which they do not do at the present time. they want to move their cities to the south for economic and defense reasons. they want to put connectivity and education and in health care. you line up with all three political parties. >> you are bringing political unity to israel -- is that what you are saying? >> know, the leaders understand how to work on a common goal. if you talk to prime minister netanyahu and ask about digitizing the country, he will say talk to my partner. talk to shimon perez awesome

jobs and cisco is my partner. you talk to the head of finance, you have to have them on board cisco is our partner. you make it nonpolitical. you're talking to a republican who supports democrats sometimes. it has nothing to do with what party it is. once you get your references that is when it gets really exciting. when you are able to say, here is what general motors does or here is what hamburg does. this is what is about to happen in your cities. what cisco does, we have a lot of witnesses but when we make a statement and we're going to do something, we deliver. >> all of this stuff sounds really exciting. the world is changing, probably for the better. yet, cisco's stock trades on a forward earnings multiple of 10. the s&p at large trades at about 17. the market has given a referendum on how much you want

to do with the company. why is there so little multiple happiness for the company right now. >> ok, you have asked a loaded question. we have outperformed the market dramatically this year. we are up about 10%. include dividends, 13%. that is better than the nasdaq. our earnings are up three-fold in the last decade. revenues of about 250% of the last 12 to 15 years. our p/e ratio has gone from about 205 to 10. it is not about our market share. the key is, can we grow? there are a lot of new challenges, concepts like cloud

and software defined networks. we had the same challenges a decade ago. our ability to produce the results and get the growth and earnings in this market, it is relatively close to where we are today. if we grow in the mid-single digits, it will be different. >> ibm has its own situation. so that is the challenge. is all this new change comes in, it is whether you can keep the margins intact. likes the challenge is, do you get the market transitions are? we're good on transitions. the question is, can we get revenue growth and margins in this scenario? a small company of 20 people could come right at us. we do not have an operating system that is proprietary. on the other hand, we usually get over 40% market share. we will combine the products together and architectures. we will move to solutions.

if we do that right, we will have very good stock growth. >> they have seen all the hype about the clout to tell us three things that are bs about the cloud and then three things that are real about it. >> i am going to get in trouble on this one. i guarantee that my team is sweating. >> make them sweat. >> the bs on the cloud is it is secure. it is not there yet. it has to have certain applications. how easy it is to get the workload balance, if you are offloading workload, it actually works very well. the positives, it will be the future. it will be for 25% consumption of i.t. for 50%, somewhere within that. we have a competitor, and we fight the concept if you talk to enterprise customers.

we are the number one player there in terms of private cloud. your key on that is, do you see it coming and can you use this market transition to become the number one player there? we entered the market and cloud and said we can combine server technology with storage with the network, and everybody said cisco will be a server layer. five years later, we're the number one player in that service in the u.s. 51% market share. hp 35% market share. do you get the market transitions right? are you able to economically bring those to the bottom line? some have huge pressure. some have committed subsite. we do acquisitions. we do that in cloud. we have done 174 acquisitions out of the last 18 months.

all but two of them have been in cloud software. >> so people have got a lot going on. they may not remember much from this conversation, that give one thing you need to know about the cloud -- take off your cisco salesperson had. take away one thing they need to know about the cloud and the business, it would be what? >> i think it allows for disruption of business. many people have their own private clouds. others use public clouds. i think understanding where cloud comes together with mobility comes together with social, comes together with security, that is going to be a large part of where this industry goes. but you just want to know how technology can enable your goals , how it can enable your goes

for productivity, how to get productivity back like we did in the 1990's. you want to know how it will enable any set of competitors to connect. your competitors will not be the same at all as they are today. they will be dramatically different in five to 10 years, regardless of industry. cloud is a technology that contributes to that transition. having people on your team that understand, not just a cio, but understanding the implications. >> the bubble. we had "the wall street journal ki" journalist talking about rents in san francisco and how more companies are losing more than ever before out in the valley. is the valley in a bubble? >> a segment of it, yes. >> which segment? >> [indiscernible]

i think what you have got to watch and john hennessy, the president of stanford, i wonder for man on my board, he will be first to say, and this is not about overconfidence or arrogance, probably 75% to 80% of the major transitions going on in the technology world today expertise is located within 25 miles of silicon valley. it is hard to explain how unique it is in the no fear attitude. people are willing to take risks, unlimited venture capital. companies are getting funded way too early. the ceo's, they know it appeared but they say i can raise a couple million dollars now and i will have that in the bank for a long time. i do think there is a very real worry -- dr. wang train me very well, smartest man i ever met. he said if you think you are

going to go into countries like china -- i believe you make money as you go. i know that is the difference. cisco has been very profitable since day 1, 1 of the most profitable companies around. 65% gross margins. i personally think that is a mistake, not focusing more on profit spirit your numbers are right for you can argue 84% of the companies going public today. no earnings. in 2001, we already went to the pain of that. 83%. if you get caught in an economic downturn or if you get caught with a social media segment on that, you will see the same type of breakage that occurred before. however i'm the positive side, business trends continue at the speed and committees will figure out how to make profits out of of it. if there is not a major industry disruption or an economic downturn, then you are probably

going to have more of a gradual landing for part of this companies. will a majority my competitors be part of this 10 years from now? no. if cisco does not change, we will might be in existence. will and number of the companies, including high startups be there? probably not. but it does not mean there will not be a good economic investment. >> do you see any impact on silicon valley, rising rates? not that they are ever going to raise them. do you see that question mark >> absolutely, you do. if you watch what most of my customers view, and most are concerned about the emerging markets. just to give you a data point the emerging markets for us for four five years, mid-teens. 18 months ago, mexico went from 15% growth to flat and one quarter year-over-year.

quarter, -12. it was a freefall. if rates raised dramatically to quickly, especially in the u.s., you will choke growth in emerging markets are right now there is only one engine going well and that is the u.s. i do not think it is going as well as it should. growth is not bad. if all of a sudden rates get raised, it could affect growth around the world. central banks need to be careful. so yes, it really does. >> interesting. china and speaking of emerging, it is the market in a lot of cases, describe how you feel about the complicated relationship between the national governments of china and the united states, the percentage of cisco as a representative of the china take industry -- where does that stand? how do you feel about it?

where is it going? >> both my parents were doctors. they taught me to deal with the world the way it is, not the way you wish it was. the complexity between our countries is the most complex it has ever been. and there is a great undersecretary of state but we're just not effectively communicating well between our countries. when you do not communicate well between your countries, whether it is us and russia or us and china, then you have a lot of fallout occur in the process. my view is china should be a great economic or in a with us and we ought to be able to articulate very well to get there. i think that is what the chinese would like. >> so what is wrong? >> i do not think we are communicating effectively. we have not said what the win-win is on both sides. this is not just five years and

china appear to have been there for 30 years. i have followed what is going on there. my meeting with one leader was an hour and a half. it is a market i know well. cisco and china can go either way. i wish i could tell you i control my own destiny there but i cannot. they're very smart and predictable. if our countries were able to work out issues, even security issues, there has to be rules of the road on what we will do versus germany and versus china and we have to agree on this. it is not an industry issue in my opinion at all. china could go either way. it is a wildcard. i like india. if you're betting on an emerging market right now, they have the imagination, and the leader has

the equivalent of both the house and senate in his terms. if i were betting on one emerging country right now, i would that big-time on india. china? they need 7% to 8% growth. >> do you view -- how would you rate them on a scale of free and open trade with cisco right now? >> [indiscernible] our business is up 30%. having said that, we just achieved one of the top social awards given out in beijing for what we did in the szechuan earthquake. 374,000 people were injured 85,000 died. the chinese know that we can bring transformation and innovation. >> foreign governments worry about u.s. espionage, and cisco

as related, whether fairly or not, there was an incredible picture of nsa personnel having basically stolen cisco here, put their software on it, and put it back. it is a rather incredible photo. >> first of all, none of us knows for sure the facts around that. secondly, it is a picture. the major danger there is -- take the transaction out. if we do not get trust in our supply chain, if businesses and governments -- remember, 30 percent comes out of china appeared if we do not have supply chain and worker trust, and the governments will come together -- if the governments will not come together, we have a big problem. secondly, you have no idea what a government does. all espionage is done it is -- in different ways. the easiest way to get into a network is the systems administrator. they're the ones with the key.

they use the same password on the system that they do on facebook. the bad guys get it to her the vast majority of espionage issues will be done by employees, rotation states, and, candidly, organized crime. we are going to try to transition to become the number one security company. the leeway you can defend his every mode of the network. today, people have 50 to 75 security companies and their environment. the bad guys will always get around it appeared you take the problem. you say, how do you solve it? our reputation in terms of honesty is very direct. way before people thought it might be an issue, we never gave information to another government. there are no backdoors. any government in any customer's network or data center, we give them up immediately. it doesn't matter if that is in china, u.s., or europe.

alexa germany has been particularly vocal about u.s. interests, perhaps invading german space, for lack of a better term. what do you tell merkel? what do you tell ms. merkel about that? >> if you share what you have conversations with any government leader, you do not have the very much. three american presidents reminded me of that. i think the first thing you say is, if you are not part of the technology transition, you are in a bind. the second thing is, we can do that better than anyone else. most people would agree. third, there is no facts behind what people say. people know it in terms of direction and you have to earn their trust and confidence. say, how do achieved your goals as a country and how do you partner with an s.a.p.?

we had the same conversation in france. it was a tough week when i met and he was -- we spent over an hour talking about issues. two of the heads of state visited the day before or the day of doing we knew very well. in palestine, we worked to take the economy from .5% to 6.4% in three years. people give cisco the credit with our palestinian partners to do it. in jordan, we worked on their education system. we did that 10 years ago. we're currently working on refugee capabilities in health care and education. business or government leaders if somebody can bring you huge benefits that you want and has a track record of being trusted --

this is an issue for merkel to solve with obama. they have to have rules of the road and conduct. you cannot put your businesses in between. >> there is a fitting note here. a few last thing spirit speaking of heads of state, hillary clinton came to address yourself meeting with 20,000 people or so. tell us, what happened? what was it like? is she going to get it? >> it was interesting. i have had the honor to interview probably 20 heads of state. i have interviewed her and her husband probably four times. she did not want to know the questions ahead of time. she gave good open comments for about 10 minutes. then we got right into it. several of my strong republican friends came up afterwards and said, we have got a problem. she is really good. >> mm-hmm. [laughter] >> she would make a great leader

. she really would. >> you are very good. at some one who appreciates other people at the top of their game, what is the one or two things that she has that makes her special? sex she has got experience. she is able to articulate -- >> she has got experience. she is able to articulate well. she can lead a country. when she says she's going to do something, she does it to comes with an experience that is very strong. having watched from the side, watched as a first lady and then as head of state, secretary of state, and being around government leaders. government leaders will be remarkably candid. she has progressed. she has a very good base. as a moderate republican, i hope we get a candidate that can really give her a run for her

money. i think we have a long way to go to have somebody in a position that will have that type of firepower. >> so you're willing to accept treasury secretary for either party, is that what you are saying? >> no, i am not into public -- politics. i like democrats and republicans. i like business. i like what i am doing. the have been on the road for two weeks, running like crazy. >> ok, speaking of transitions larry ellison is 70 years old. one also america's cup victory and one awesome company to his credit. you are 64. thoughts? >> six to five. -- 65 first of all, i thought larry did a very good job on transition. they will make it run very smooth. he will transition smoothly out. secondly, the next time i talk about transition will be with

cisco. next time you hear it will be when we make that transition. suffice it to say, i have got a great number of probably five to 10 people and the company who could be ceo of almost any company around the world. >> speaking of pondering, you spend a lot of time jogging. is that where you have your best thoughts? >> yet, i think you said it earlier. each of us finds different ways of thinking. i run in the woods. i'm not a fast runner but i love doing it. i run uphill first be itself for the first half of the run, that is when i organize my thoughts solve problems, think through issues. the second half of the run think goodness, i just enjoy it. >> let's go to q&a. we have done a great job here. please. >> thank you for this morning, and thank you for the interview. my name is pamela. in my for-profit company, we look at employee engagement.

so i'm going to take the conversation just a little around the bend, because you spoke a lot of that activity. over the last couple of decades we have found that a lot of the productivity is tied up in employee engagement. we have not come out of that yet. so as this productivity increases at unprecedented levels, that will produce operational well-being. but we need personal well-being as well and the office place. my question is not from hr adapt . what is the innovative crazy new idea that will take practices to another level? >> sure. i think it will be around social media and collaboration finally coming to life. just being very open, microsoft and cisco are probably the two leaders in collaboration. we do very well from the top of the organization and we do not do well with collaboration and

productivity down through the organization. so i think the future is going to be all around collaborative capabilities with video at the heart of it. you have got to change the processes that go with it. that is one of the reasons i am pretty bullish on the productivity. you can have what is a very advanced video capability that costs $20,000 in your home for $2000. so i think the ability to bring collaboration to its forefront is very important. being challenged. the two leaders in this industry need to find ways to interoperate. still compete, but interoperate. also, the ability to really be there when your employees need you is a key element of it. we move heaven and earth to help

people during the tough times. we saved a lot of lives spear that is part of our culture, as well. the majority of our -- we hold our teams, even during the tough times, pretty well. but it will be around collaboration, around how we understand this new generation what we expect with the smartphones. and it has to be easy to use. >> are your employees too distracted by their phones? >> not at all. we have loads of networks, which i love. [laughter] the most important technology device to every college graduate is their smart phone. if you do not understand that that is how you will interface to them and sell to them, if you do not understand when they are in your store buying something they will be contacting through social media the people they

trust most to ask what they think. so i view is the other way. you have to find the device will enable productivity. and we have to find a way to interface to everybody to get it right. >> please. >> could you talk about cisco's plans in 2015 versus for the 14, when you travel and what you see the telecommunication industry is like? secondly, i am on the financial side. i come from the school of thought that companies are supposed to buy back stock when it is undervalued. in 2004 -- since 2004, you spent $76.2 billion buying stock. what motivates the buyback that the company pursues in such a large quantity? >> ok, a series of questions

going in reverse order -- last year, we have a commitment to our shareholders to focus on shareholder value. we have committed that out of our 50% cash flow, this is a lot of money. we will return the profits in the form of share buybacks and dividends. we actually bought back and gave 120%. we're going to continue to give back a minimum of 50% of our free cash flow regardless of tax laws, to our shareholders. the share buyback has been good for the people you bought the storage from. the stock is up to pheromone amount versus where we did the majority of the buyback in terms of the direction. in terms of around the world, it varies dramatically. the commercial and enterprise market is going well. in the u.s. when you look at it,

the last order this year, everything i say today should not have any impact on the current quarter. i want to remind everyone, i'm not making any updates from the quarter. that is three years of law school. thank you on that. if you watch, what is occurring the u.s. and prize and commercial are realizing the technology again will bring huge change in terms of things that are important to productivity and taking on new competitors. it grew in the mid-teens last quarter in the u.s. when you look at u.s. gdp, it is usually good news and bad news and a pretty good in decatur of what is about to happen. that feels pretty good. europe, germany and the u.k. both through a double digits. gdp growth is happening in europe. you can almost follow that. we did see emerging markets continue to be very challenging. a little bit more standard deviation.

there is pressure on price points, a lot of pressure on spending around the world. they are competing against an amazon or google model or a microsoft model over the top player, and they are competing with a very high overhead structure where what they did before was provide transport. about 12 years ago i was saying 90% of the revenues will be free. same thing with data or video transport. they must transform themselves to a different level of content to customers, and many struggle with this. some are thinking out of the box. but [indiscernible] >> should verizon by time warner or something like that? >> people look at how the value

is sustainable to your environment. if you watch what comcast is doing with getting content that is one of the ways of doing it. they have been very successful. if you watch what netflix is doing in a very unique way in terms of content, so it is where you will get your revenue streams and also the you have sustainable differentiation. it does you no good to get intercompany if you do not have a differentiation. >> are activists out of control in enforcing a need for buybacks and dividends that are perhaps not the best use of capital overall? >> i think every ceo has to make the right decision for the company, period. if you worry about some of the second you or you get cautious, you cannot lead. >> but the activists are in control of wall street at this point. >> i respectfully disagree. but i think what you are seeing is focus on the shareholders, which is right. it is the right thing to do for

the guarantee, and we should do it. by the way, the stock is done really well. if the right thing to do is key acquisitions, i will continue to do it. if i get it up for an acquisition that does not work like a committee called flip which we paid six under million dollars for, and i got 20 companies that made more than that that were successful, then i will take that pressure. if it is the right thing to do for your shareholders and customers, you just do it. you have to listen to constructive criticism. you always have to have the courage to do what is right for your company. if you make the decisions in the short term and some of the puts pressure on you, your company is not going to have a future. that is like treating the symptom as a doctor. >> huge commitments to shareholders. it is a digression. other questions?

>> state your name and where you are from. >> [indiscernible] appreciate it. i wanted to go back to the security topic. you see what has happened with home depot and target and all that. what do you say to the leaders of those companies. and from more of a standpoint the on the government's need to trust each other and we do -- and we need to set that up, what can the u.s. do from a policy perspective that would engender more trust in even our allies at this point? >> so if you watch what is occurring in the environment, and i know i make some people uncomfortable here, there is no safe data center around the world. as a ceo, you have got to know what happened in these countries could happen to you. i think every company in the u.s. has probably been broken

into. people do not an ounce in for a bunch of different reasons. the majority of the time it has nothing to do with our government or our government counterparts. this is why we are going to try to become the number one player in security, because it will and him it -- it will inhibit have us the internet grows and inhibit cloud. i think what we have to do is be realistic that the majority of security issues are because companies do not follow policy and i will not talked about either one of the companies you mentioned. most of the times when we find security is breached, it is because somebody did not follow the policy appeared they left the back door open. or the system administrator has the password, like leaving the keys to your house with directions. this will just get worse. organized crime, the sophistication is unbelievably good. it is unfortunate. the attacks you saw out of asia

were way more than what you actually probably read about. i mean, unbelievably tough, sophisticated types of attacks. what i tell a ceo or leader is, first, you are exposed to it secondly here is how you can minimize the way to do it. third, i find the right time to do a sales pitch that has to be with the network and you have to be really stick and have your attention on it to pay attention to policy and direction. that is what our companies have done together in terms of infrastructure. it is something that i think our country has to address. this is where i believe the country leaders have to come together with rules of conduct of the road. it is the wild west out there. this is what governments should do. say, here's what we are going to do and not do. as long as people know that, you do not surprise your citizens and you do not surprise your companies in terms of the direction.

>> a question about one or two to a specific things you would recommend along those lines -- >> the first thing i would do is really educate your people that most of the problems come from somebody not following processes and procedures. usually the most important issue, some of you just left the password open or some but he took the code home. there is no reason for doing that. the second is you need an overall security strategy, and you need to put, not some at a good at it -- it is a kiss of death to say you are my chief security officer so go fix it for me. it has to the ceo, sing this is a top priority for the company. but it is the thing that can slow our industry and can do billions of dollars in damage. >> john with the "wall street journal." take us back to india and your enthusiasm about modi.

there have been a lot of ceo's comeback and said this is india's time. they said that with congress in charge. they said that with others in charge. what is different this time? >> i bet on india big-time almost 15 years ago as a vehicle for emerging countries getting 600,000 engineers a year. our country only graduates 60,000. it is the top 5% of their populace that goes into these schools. unbelievably high talent. india's issues in my opinion, have been self-inflicted. if you were to talk to ceo's three years ago, most of them cannot solve their own problems. much of their economy is internally generated. they do not have the same problems that china does.

the parties were so divisive and even though i think there prime minister was a very good man there was corruption within his party at the top. they do not execute and they had no courage. what is different is you have a leader who is growing, and you do not want to make the expectations so high that you cannot deliver. he will make tough decisions. he has captured the imaginations of the people and the business community. there is confidence from the business community and the citizens. he is streamlining government and controls all the political operations. so he does not have to deal with divided, using our words congress and senate in terms of direction. that is why they are enthusiastic. if they do not mess it up, they will have a great run. i will bet big on india. that is different than most other markets we have talked about. you have rivers problems in

brazil, russia and challenge -- and china in terms of the challenges -- you have worse problems in brazil russia, and china. >> i am not sure modi has had a chance to prove himself yet. there has been so much enthusiasm about india that gets caught in the bureaucratic traffic jam. it was interesting to hear you this early in his tenure so forcefully endorsing a belief that there will really be substantive change. >> part of what i do, i have been on market transitions. we will not always be right. is it a given he will be successful? no. they have weaknesses. but they have the youngest world population, great education system for the very top. if they execute, i think they will have a great run. you could hand it back maybe two times out of three and it will play out.

>> what was your thought process in the purchase of scientific atlantic? i always thought that the cable box or set-top box would be the center and gateway for everything, the center of the connected home. i was excited because i thought there would be no better company to make that happen. yet, nothing has really evolved on a set-top box in the past 10 years and the time since you bought it. >> whenever you interface to your customers, if you are trying to be something other than just a network, you say, where do they make their money? my view is not changed. the vast majority of service providers around the world maker money on video. it will be 95% of the load on the network, and it will also be entertainment. netflix, comcast this is what they are talking about, and some of the european committees are going after or buying sports teams. scientific atlantic, the

decision brought us into the most relevant space for customers. they had a unique expertise the customer did not have. what is occurring now, however is the set top boxes are commoditizing. the video capabilities are moving more into the cloud. that is why we bought mbs. the ability to move from set-top boxes into the cloud with video in the cloud is the next transition we have to make. it is hard to do. it is not easy. as you have seen as a shareholder, the margins on set-top boxes have dropped a fair amount. there are areas where we have to play. the number one area is usually video. number two is usually mobility. the number three area is how to transform themselves to provide a different level of capability to their individual customers too small and medium businesses, and to enterprise. and how quickly they can develop new services. if you are in line with their top priorities, you will be very

strategic and make good margins. if you are not in line, all you're doing is providing boxes and you will get killed by the white label players. not a particular vendor's name on it. that is the play we are making. it has been a good one for us in terms of relevance. all right. just a few minutes left. maybe a couple of more questions. yes. please. >> im and investigative reporter, and i would be serious if you would elaborate on the organized crime attacks on eastern europe. are they russia, china? they are everywhere. if you watch what is occurring it is like in the movies -- why do you rob a bank? that's where the money is. organized crime is beginning to

look at if you are going to try to take money from people or companies, how do you do it in the new electronic age? unfortunately, they are getting sophisticated. some of the strong players are out of eastern europe and some from latin america and some from this country. it is something every country has to deal with. unfortunately, their ability to get the sophistication of the attacks down and so many people think it is software connected to somebody's electronic device. 99.9% are done different ways. this is one that i think is going to be with us for a while. it is one each consumer has to be educated on and what are the implications if you open up a letter that looks like it was sent from your bank but from somebody phishing?

there is opportunity for companies to really be successful and the security segment and take a negative and make a positive for us. time will tell if we will be a success story. >> one last question. >> christian from warriors. -- reuters. you guys have been mentioned as being in the mix of looking at strategical alternatives and i am wondering if you like to comment on that. >> i think -- a very good leader and friend. they are a good partner for us. what we did with emc, is the storage business and we partnered with them and now ibm to lead and the data centers in terms of direction. what we have done different than our counterparts is combined all of our parts to work together and we really have uniquely gone across each of our habits areas and service areas in terms of direction. emc decided not to do that in

opening up to some of the challenges. you do not want to comment on activity with a given company but i will make an exception on this one. we usually get the opportunity and usually asked and are a good acquirer in treat people well, if joe and i were going to do something together, we would've done a year or two our goal in terms of direction. >> a very candid answer. glad we could end on that. great visiting with you. climbing up a hill with a smile on your face. thank you very much. give a warm round of applause to john chambers. [applause] final word. >> thank you very much. a terrific job. you are getting clear then more sleep.

if i may, 20 years on top of the technology sector in this country is extraordinary period of longevity. when you became ceo of cisco steve jobs was in exile from a apple. ali baba was a fictional character in a fairytale. it has been pretty remarkable and longevity are thank you for much indeed for being here. [applause] as i said at the beginning, you can see it again -- please join us for our next breakfast which will be december 8 with the morrison, the ceo of the campbell soup company. it will be a perfect time to talk about soup. thank you very much. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute,

which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> ♪ one of these days you know i am going to get things right >> just a reminder, tonight, a discussion on the use of digital sensors in everyday items. in a couple of minutes here on c-span, we will take you live to the white house, a day-long summit on combating violent extremism is about to start again. president obama will speak to the group. we expect that to be at about 4:15 p.m. we will go there live once they get underway. back to this morning's washington journal here on c-span. the political correspondent with the washington examiner. we begin with a one we were just talking about and that is immigration and what to do next. this texas judge rules it

>> we apologize, you can see all of this segment online. just as we started, the white house resumed. approaches to combating violence. we were thrilled to be chosen to be one of the three pilot cities to develop and implement a framework to counter violent extremism. the endeavor would not have been possible without the support of dozens of what i like to refer to as local champions, some of which you saw in the video, some of which are sitting here, and many who are back home in boston -- local champions who consist of community activists, service providers, faith-based leaders and educators that have been committed to the process. the framework we have developed really is the first step and it is a menu of options to help communities anywhere regardless

of their ethnicity issues, problems, to use identify, their own problems whether it is dealing with vulnerable use distrust in the government, whether it is dealing with vulnerabilities in social media -- but to identify those problems, and really, to help, and to steer, and to try to identify individuals who are on the path to violent extremism. allow me to introduce the key collaborators that are sitting at the table you will be hearing from in a moment. the doctor from the news -- islamic council of . the islamic society of greater lowell. the regional director of the antidefamation league. jody the director for counseling and intervention from the boston public schools.

the founder and the executive director of the somali community cultural association, and as you heard earlier, from site -- s aidad. the goal was to bring a group to inform the strategic plan that we have come up with. i will start first -- during the timeframe, and it will be short -- we hope to cover the process we engaged in developing it, the problem areas written a coming number of goals going forward. from the onset of this initiative, we have talked about the importance of using a multidisciplinary approach to countering violent extremism which requires a proper balance between nongovernmental and governmental stakeholders. can you share your impressions with the work that has been occurring thus far? >> thank you.

i think that i have been working with somali youth for 20 years. i am engaged in both research and intervention, and when i heard about the program, my first thing was we are often traumatized by the talk about isis. our kids see this on tv all day, others talk about it. how are we going to do this? i was happy as a community members to be part of something that will work, but how do we make sure it is inclusive, that it does not stigmatize, austro size a community, and the approach -- ostracize a community, and the approach was that this was an issue that was too complex to be contained within a small group. we had to bring all of this different expertise. also, we had to be aware of this complexity. we have to invite all kinds of

voices into that discussion. we have to hear all of them. the other thing was we did not have to label one community, because you know what, at the start of all of this, it is how do we protect vulnerable youth and the fact that we have someone like governor brown who has worked on issues in boston, and has worked on working with communities to prevent youth from being recruited into gangs so we said we would have an approach that says this is not about islam. it is not about a muslim problem. it is a boston problem, a u.s. problem, a world problem. islam is not the issue or the problem. islam can be the resource that helps us counter the violence, so that framework helped a lot. that framework was not only based on our feelings as

community members, but in my own research with youth. we talked to over 500 somali youth across three states and canada. one of the things we found is used that tells you -- youth that tells you they were marginalized or most likely to endorse violence. we cannot try to solve our problems -- paraphrasing here -- by using the same thinking that got us into them first. we can not blame each other. we can relate to each other, and this time jumping relationships and inclusiveness. that is the approach we are taking that will allow us to build a strong community. thank you. >> in developing the framework one of the challenges we had is we have a variety of different communities in boston. the pilot cities have different

issues, and in many ways that is the beauty of having three very cities. in terms of empowering the community to really help and do the work it needs to do to prevent radicalization that moves on to violent extremism there is no question about the relationship involving youth obviously, and the schools. i would like to turn to you given your experience in the boston public school system, can you tell us, how under this pilot initiative, we can work with existing school systems to engage people, especially youth who might be vulnerable to recruitment? >> sure, thank you, carmen. i want to say it is an honor and a privilege to be here and to be representing the public schools. the boston public schools counseling and intervention center provides five to 10 days of counseling and intervention,

and decision-making curriculums to students that have violated the code of conduct. we provide those students to more than 1200 students a year. this alternative to suspension serves to keep kids in school and engaged rather than out on the street, where we know they are more likely to have trouble. most of these disaffected youth have experienced trauma -- violence at home, or in the community, social exclusion bullying, and most have been impacted by poverty. even more, they have been unsuccessful at connecting with a caring adult in school, at home, or in the community. while the idea of countering violent extremism is new to the school, the work necessary to identify and intervene is parallel to the work long being

done in addressing street gangs. both street gangs and violent extremist lure the most vulnerable in with promises of a better life with a purpose and a place to belong. we see that the most vulnerable and easily manipulated are those that despite numerous attempts from an early age to engage have not been successful. these failed joiners, and you might have heard the term and talking about bullying intervention as well, it is the failed joiners that we are most concerned about, who feel angry disrespected, and humiliated, and are most likely to commit further acts of violence. boston public schools has a long history of providing trauma-informed student support services to all students with social and schoolwide

counseling, bullying prevention and intervention in lieu of suspension. these universal supports, and the emphasis is universal, are normalized for students, decreasing the stigma of use and access to those services. in fact, when a counselor goes to a council member asks to see a student, the question from the peers is am i going to see a counselor, because it is normalized in the actual fiber of the boston public schools itself. preventing an intervening in the cycle of violence requires early engagement with families and caretakers. the developing of trust takes time. by providing culturally relevant opportunities for families and caregivers through currently

existing forms. we do not have to re-create the wheel here. we just have to use the forms currently in place -- parent universities, welcome centers, school site council, and school and district wide family event increasing the likelihood of families reaching out for support. community partnership with schools, law enforcement, crisis services and child welfare services billed the foundation of this work. most significant is our partnership with the boston police department, and their threat assessment unit, and operation homefront unit. they are a combination of police , social workers, as well as clergy going into homes and supporting families and students who are most at risk's -- risk. parents have actually reported greater appreciation for this programs, and those who were most reluctant to have the

pastors and the police come into their home, once they are there they talk for hours, and sometimes called back and ask for intervention for their other students. they really see it as a support service rather than a police action, and that is the intention. normalizing the involvement of these partners before punitive measures are taken helps to build positive relationships and trust within the community. finally, this work takes resources and commitment from districts and municipalities however, in this area of measuring success and accountability through testing support services are often the first to be cut. this leaves a gaping hole for the most vulnerable students to be manipulated by those seeking to recruit them to do harm. thank you. >> thank you, ms. jodie elgee

kelly --jodie elgee. we are limited with time. focusing on social media, and there has been a lot said today but if you could briefly comment in terms of, with respect to the pilot initiative, can you talk about the goals and the solutions we have considered as part of the pilot program? >> one of the things that the boston group identified as a problem area was social media and that is something everyone in every community has access to, and we also saw social media as part of the solution, part of the work that we need to work on when we go back home, and that is because, as we have talked a little bit about today as technology has changed, almost on a daily basis, extremists are using it to recruit and justify and sanction violence and it is making it more accessible and

practical to get for everyone. one of the fundamental elements of extremist propaganda is anti-semitism, which is often packaged with explicit calls for violence against the jewish targets, but also against law enforcement, against democratic ideals. there are certain common -- common themes we see in the recruitment, the use of social media. these are used to recruit essentially, a cadre of would be extremists, whether it be in the united states, or other parts of the world. the days of face-to-face interaction are no longer a requirement the people, so we identified this as an area to focus on. we also concluded that communities needed to be educated about ways to protect people from being recruited, and that this called for essentially, a diverse counter narrative that had a very broad and far-reaching impact, and as

you have heard from everyone on our panel, we did not think that it actually impacted one particular community. we viewed it as impacting the entire community, and those of us in boston are no stranger to the impact that this can have. the focus, really, has been on strategies to deconstruct the extremist narrative by using communication platforms, and to disseminate a new counter -narrative, and we have to make that counter-narrative as attractive, and as appealing, as the call is to commit violence in the first place. so, the challenge on us is very, very high, and boston's political, religious and community leaders have to work together to improve the consequences of the spread of hateful rhetoric and ideology. the real work will be when we go home.

the real work will be implementing together. >> to work. we literally have to -- thank you. we literally have to end the panel. is that accurate? >> so i have to. >> 30 seconds, go with it. >> 30 seconds? >> all right. thank you for the honor of being here on the islamic council of newington, representing two dozen mosques, and in 2013, a few months after the bombing our counsel responded to the need for community involvement and intervention to prevent possible future digital action from misguided use. the council made a commitment to learn about the radicalization process and understand the influencers and create programs to stop recruitment from

happening card once that program is built around early education, and that is especially important to me as the father of a teenage son, which i will discuss in a moment -- but if we look at the data, we do not see compelling metrics. in less than a five-year period less than 6% of terrorism domestically was perpetrated by muslims, and in 2011, research said there was no signs of growth oreo and is in -- growth or alienation for muslims supporting extremism, but we know there is an expansion of extremism and they are always open for kid, and ideology impact people in this country and countries around the world. in doing that, we have kids that are always vulnerable to the seductive techniques of the extremists. just to get to the gist of what we do, we are developing a model of youth education. it is a workshop that is supplementing four ideas, a faith-based approach that includes rational problem-solving skills in the face of adversity and intimidation, exposing the tools that extremist used online and off-line to prey upon the unit.

we give kids a help option, and we give parents tools to deal with and understand all aspects of this issue. the program is meant to be shared with the moms -- with the imans, and the school teachers. we will create person to person workshops, have role-playing using nonviolent strategies if religious sensibilities are challenged. there is a flowchart of reasoning we want them to follow so that chemical best choices to act on, and we want them to follow good muslim role models, which in this case is the prophet mohammed and how he would react. it has been described as a dare program and a what would prophet mohammed do anger approach. we review and practice these techniques. we are designing components that deal with identifying a friend or fear that might be at risk and ways to get them approved

for help like suicide prevention guidelines. we also incorporating the history of islam in america using secular role models and respected advocates of nonviolence, and we want to emphasize diversity of all kinds, of which we are part. we're not trying to re-create the wheel, but want to create a wheel that we can take to new roads that have been inaccessible as far. so far the hope is we can create an online version of this once we have refined it, and share with muslims around the country and around the world. as a father, i never want to see any parent deal with what has happened to folks that have lost their kids to run extremism. in conclusion, islam is not to blame for the violent extremism learning our youth, but it can be and will be a solution for helping them to become spiritually educated and morally strong to resist the impulse of violence. when i was touring washington, d.c., earlier today with my son and yesterday, it was apparent that the values of our founding fathers were like the values of my father and his father before

him, and a reminder that islamic values are shared with american values, and as we have become a community that is boston strong, we will work as muslims with our fellow citizens to become america strong. on behalf of the islamic center and the islamic council of newark, thank you for supporting our work. [applause] text you like, everyone. >> thank you to our panel from boston, minnesota, los angeles. we have about 23 minutes left before we have to get prepared for our keynote speaker, so without further ado, i will introduce the final presentation -- jared cohen, michael davidson and ms. sasha havel's from the institute for strategic dialogue. come on up guys. [applause] >> thank you so much. i am told in 23 minutes will have presidential set up, so it will be slightly abridged.

the focus of this session is to highlight a partnership between google ideas, institute for strategic dialogue, on using technology to counter violent extremism online and off-line, but before we do that, i want to say a little bit about why google ideas is tackling the challenge of violent extremism as a supplement to the excellent work you heard from my colleague victoria grant. about four and a half years ago, eric schmidt and i stood up google ideas based on this assumption that we wanted the company to be proactive about the intersection of technology and some of the most complicated, difficult global security challenges, and if we wanted to build a engineering and product team, we could create tools used to address them. you hear government talk about needing to organize around challenges like my own extremism. it is the same in the private sector. google ideas faults in a unique place in the corporate environment in the sense of the challenges that we focus on from

the societies that illicit networks, to violent extremism do not fall into an obvious core business box or an obvious corporate responsibility/philanthropy box but they occupy a new space around international security and business. when we started a new chapter one of the area to focus on was violent extremism and we began with our convening power to break down the hall in a way that was sufficiently concrete for engineers to troubleshoot. we convene a summit against violent extremism june of 2011, and together about 100 former violent religious extremists former violent far right extremists, former gang members, and former violent nationalist literally from dozens of countries. what we were struck by was how similar the radicalization process was across each of these different context, and how much

they hated being compared to each other because it took away from each of them what they thought was exceptional and remarkable, and broke it down that these are violent organizations that basically exploit children. when we remove the mask of religion and ideology, we are found that there is a dangerous and exaggerated sense of the root cause of all of this is religion. we heard our colleague say they are offering young people a sense of involvement, enhanced status, and a group to belong to, so in many cases they're starting is broken souls that get access to dangerous tools. the second observation we came away with, before i turn it over to sasha and michael, is around technology. it is so easy to use technology as a lightning rod, but what we found from our research is that more connectivity is not feeling radicalization. it is quite the obvious --

opposite. if you go back to the not so distant past, at least be a ballot secrecy around the radicalization process -- it would happen in caves, off the grid, and there were not opportunities for intervention that we have today. terrorists have been practicing tactics for 1500, 2000 years and the digital tactics are much newer and less seasoned and we have more expertise than they do. i want to turn it to sasha and michael talked about the remarkable action network that focuses on taking advantage of one of the best assets we have, which is the fact that violent extremists are vastly outnumbered by those who oppose it, and that is even more the case online. i want to reduce you to sasha havel check. >> i am honored. i know we have to do this in fast-forward. we're delighted to share with you the tools we have developed to counter extremism.

i should start by saying that as a think tank that has worked to counter extremists and of all -- extremism of all forms, the most effective working we have done has been as a result of these kinds of private sector policy -- partnerships, perhaps unsurprisingly. we need more of them. just a couple of words about the project before we get started. i will let you look at this. is anybody recognize it? interestingly, this was a statement as far back as 2002 by osama bin laden and what it says is that long before isis extremist groups have understood the strength of soft power, and they were extremely quick to understand the opportunities in this regard that the digital era presents. i understand how to hyper charts their messaging. have a head start on us. we all know very well that isis can give master classes in

branding and peer to peer social marketing, and they have even created their own twitter app. we have heard about that earlier. no problem here in our eyes are monumental gift we've allowed to transpired between their tech savvy, 24/seven strategic propaganda on one hand, and our counter efforts on the other. that little guy there is us with the old-fashioned microphone. our response is a handful of small scale, unprofessional counter narratives. we are being done in content quantity, and quality, and in terms of strategies. the problem is governments are ill prepare to lead the battle of ideas. chronicle is credible voices and activists, many were here, have

lacked the skills and the instructor to reach the target audiences they need to be reaching. capabilities that are private sectors possessing this is that they are using to sell our stuff, but at this point, still not at scale to help us with his counter messaging challenge -- the communications challenge of our time. so, they have had a head start. we have had no serious strategy to date. we have started to ask ourselves, if isis has a branding and marketing department, where is ours, so we have turned ourselves into an experiment to steal back from the terrorist coming to the private sector on board, and to trial as many responses as possible is tailored to a specific audience, just as they do it, from upstream to downshift. we looked at the content draft. there's been focus on taking stuff down, and that has limited impact. instead we looked at what

competition would look like a man we turn to our network of informers and survivors, some of the most qualified voices in this, and we asked them to ideas. let me introduce you to abdullah x, created by one of our members. no -- it is not working? i will move on. go back. , the technology fails us. this is proving our point. let me tell you one we learned -- what we learned. he has his own youtube channel. i would direct you there. credible content is crucial, but on its own he does not do the job. without the support that we were able to give with our combined partnerships abdullah x was reaching about 50 random people online. as part of a pilot we did with any you working group that we

cochair with google ideas, we were able to hyper charge that counter narrative inserting abdullah x into what the extremists were using. it meant anchoring this to extremist twitter accounts, posting it on extremist pages. having it pop up when you search for jihad in syria, and within a few months, it went from reaching 50 random people to 100,000 of our target group individuals searching to go to syria for jihad. so, we now know what can work because we can measure the engagement that abdullah x has had with our target group online. we have that data, and of course, in a way, perhaps the best indicator of abdullah x's success was the five-page

education it incited from isis. this is not about going viral. we do not need to reach one million of you. we need to reach thousands come perhaps, of the individuals really at risk and being radicalized. what we are really doing is turning himself into an innovation lab, where we can provide the production, marketing, data analytics, and campaigns and put necessary to credible voices that owned that content themselves, but require that support. in 2015, with a combined support of google, now facebook and twitter as well, we will be supporting 35 such campaigns. we need hundreds, and that is i hope, what we will be able to do with the growing support in this space. here is another example of some of the stuff coming out of this innovation lab of hours. pioneering one to intervention

-- one intervention work. is about taking online we do with formers offline, and what we know what works to walk people back from the edge. right now, there are only extremist and intel services engaging with his constituency online. we were wondering, will inside maybe, a 1% response? with the people that we reach out to be aggressive? in actual fact, we had a 35% positive response rate, and that is a testament to reaching out with credible voices. these are former extremists talking to these kids, and in terms of reach scalability, we are now working with the private sector to see if some of that outreach can be automated -- automated so that we can reach more people in this way. the big question -- how do we get ahead of the curve? how do we start to inoculate young people before they get

pulled into these extremist ideologies and movements? this is the aim of extreme dialogue. it is an amazing new tool we are launching this week -- in fact, we launched yesterday in canada. this is chris. her son died in syria fighting with crisis. her absolutely heartbreaking story -- and i would challenge anybody here to watch the film that we have made with creative partners -- you can find it on the extreme dialogue website -- to watch it without weeping, and then wondering whether, perhaps, you're on children could end up with such -- your own children could end up with such a fate. these types of stories from chris and others in our network constitute part of an educational resource that combines these kinds of testimonials with a state-of-the-art educational package for teachers, for social workers to use interactively

with kids in classrooms, in community centers, around the world, we hope. the we are trying, really, to take these kinds of stories into every school and community center possible. to start to get those hard conversations going, to start to get kids questioning and thinking critically about these kinds of issues -- to mainstream that discussion in a sensitive way. what working with the private sector means in this particular context is that instead of taking chris and daniel into perhaps one school a day, we are able to being them -- beam them into hundreds and thousands of schools and a command that kind of scale that is what we need with the scale of the challenge that we are dealing with. chris's video has reached 20,000 people online in just one day.

it gives you a sense for the first of this kind of conduct that content. in conclusion, i would just say that -- kind of contact. in conclusion, i would say that in turning ourselves into this experimentation lab, are trying to bridge the soft power gap have allowed to emerge online and off-line. we now have the data to prove these approaches work. we have proof of concept. what is being done so far is really a drop in the ocean. help us grow the soft power machinery that we have started to build, managing expertise and credible voices with the private sector capabilities and resources that we really need, so that we can undermine delegitimize disrupt, and compete seriously with the machinery the extremists have deployed so successfully, and nearly unchallenged so far. so, the partnerships here that we have been lucky enough to

develop with google ideas, youtube, and jen next organization, and we are delighted with harvard facebook, twitter, and we hope many more, have allowed us to scale our work by 300 times. we need that to be scaled 300 or 300,000 fold, and we hope you will help us do that. do we have the stomach, the will to kick this into mass production question like that is a question i will let my friend and colleague michael davidson -- production? that is a question i will let my friend and colleague michael davidson answer. [applause] >> all right. thank you for the private sector philanthropy guy, it is cool to be at the white house talking about this issue and it is incredible to work with the two just to be in a room with all of you gives me quite a bit of interest of energy.

i want, though, to direct my comment to anyone from the private sector or philanthropy sector that is in the room that will happen to be watching c-span or television or who you know, and hopefully you can relay this message to them. our organization the gen ex foundation uses a model to do two things -- we look for long-term, lasting impact on ideas and put them in the hands of thought leaders to make them a reality. why am i attracted to this type of a calling? i really believe that ideas have consequences. number two is i really like people. but number three, and most importantly, is i really love my kids. i have two w of twin girls that are almost five months old. yeah, crazy. i also have a son that is five years old. when i think about my life's

ethos, there is a quote that i love, and when it comes to the future there are three types of people. those that let it happen, those that wonder what happened, and then there are those that make it happen. it sounds really good, and i tend to think of those moments when i think about that issue when i am watching my daughter's rollover for the first time, or i am watching both of them look at the, and i think about what their future is going to be, and what role i am playing in creating it, and i am also thinking about it when my son repeatedly asks me what it is like to be superman. i may or may not have helped him disclose my natural and real identity as superman, but when he asks me about that, then, will usually -- it is in the mornings that i get to spend the time with him -- then i start to read the news shortly afterward and i read about beheadings, crucifixions crazies taking over a school and killing children, and suddenly i do not

really like being superman. you feel helpless. you feel hopeless. it is confusing, and often, it is natural to be very afraid. this enemy is resilient. they are driven. they are agile. and they happen to be using tools that we as a free society created. so, when you think about the response, the people in the free society who are resilient, and agile, and driven, to take them on. there is a real opportunity for entrepreneurs and philanthropists to lead the way on this issue. philanthropists need to find a way to put money at work in a very long-term focus, and it is unnatural and the philanthropy sector. they also need to find a way to take risks. when you are dealing with cbe there is a lot of risk. on our noisy to think about their time, talent, and treasure, -- entrepreneurs need to think about that time talent, and treasure.

thinking about what you do to create jobs and make money is something you can do to counter violent extremism. a couple of examples -- you would never expect a san diego large for newer who has an online agency to do what he does for nike for counter extremism. joe martucci, from new york -- and men of the country, and the world -- he has a business that will append the way we look at advertising, and he is here because he cares about ideas to save people's lives. we need more people like him and what people like us to challenge them. again commit is not natural for them to think about being part of this as a cause. when i have those moments where i'm doubting myself as superman, and meeting the news and it is frightening, i would think to myself i really hope the government can figure that out. i just want to elect the right person, and i think that matters, but i think we should

all be completely and utterly engaged on this issue, and i believe that we are. if we are successful with our work, my kids, your kids, our kids, are going to be reading about isis in the history books. they are not going to be dealing with an issue that we were unable to deal with. so, if every single entrepreneur and every single philanthropist wakes up tomorrow morning and except -- and accepts that the greatest thing that all of us cherish is our children's future -- if we make the commitment tomorrow morning, then suddenly this is not going to be a problem. i'm not going to be afraid as superman. i will feel quite awesome, and going back to the quote about making the future happen, it is going to be just like living in a free society. thank you. [applause] >> so, i believe the presidential oscar music is about to happen, so i promised our colleagues at the white house we will end on time, and

i'm pleased to say we are ending on time to the minute. thank you. [applause] >> well done. thank you so much. thank you to anyone that appeared on our panels today. you have to take a short break because we need to set the stage for our keynote speaker. so, i invite all of you to take about 10 minutes, 15 minutes to stretch, use the restrooms, etc. -- you need to be back in your seats no later than 4:05 p.m.. if you're not in the room by then, will close the door. please take that to heart and we really mean it this time. we will see you soon. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]

>> day long coverage of the form at the white house, the summit on combating extremism. they will wrap up the session with president obama. he is the keynote speaker. we expect that in about 10 or 15 minutes or so. we will have that live for you on c-span. news from the white house today that vice president joe biden is heading to latin america and the first week of march. the associated press reports putting him out of the country while israel's prime minister is to address congress -- the white house has said benjamin netanyahu's march 3 speech riley's since invitation came from the house speaker, and the

vice president and his wife will be heading to -- violates -- speech violates protocol because the imitation can from the house speaker. his wife and he will be headed to uruguay. the vice president spoke about a number of issues yesterday and combating violent extremism. [applause] [laughter] -- thank you very much. first of all, welcome, particular to our friends from belgium thank you all for being here especially in this "snow emergency pickup most of you --

emergency or co-most of you from -- "snow emergency." i really want to thank those of you from boston, who view this as visiting the caribbean. thank you so much. [laughter] we are here today because we all understand in dealing with violent extremism, we need answers that go beyond a military answer. we need answers that go beyond force. we need -- countries, all of us, including the united states, we have to work from the ground up. we have to work from the ground up, and engage our communities and engage those who might be susceptible to being radicalized, because they are marginalized. societies have to provide enough

-- affirmative alternative for immigrant communities, a sense of opportunity, a sense of belonging, and that discredits terrorist appeals to fear, isolation, hatred, resentment. we also have to -- police have to build partnerships with an religious, civic and business communities, and we have also brought along those folks. we have religious leaders, the business community, civic leaders, all with one purpose in mind -- how do we counter the appeal of radicalization? in september, president obama convened the un security council assembly, you might remember and led in the passage of a resolution committing countries to take on the scourge of foreign fighters, foreign terrorist fighters, but more needs to be done than what has

already been done. leader after bitter explained that it is not enough to take on these networks of extremists that wish to do us harm. we also have to take on the ideology that attracts fighters from all around the world to join them. this meeting is a continuation of that effort. over the next three days we'll hear from leaders from government, from civil society from communities in nearly 70 countries around the world in this three-day conference, about how they believe we can make good on the collective commitment to build from the ground up here. and i'd like to thank again those from belgium and the netherlands who are dealing with the most recent manifestations of this challenge. we asked you both to be here today because you've been active and innovative. i just had a chance to meet with the european council and parliament. the topic of discussion in our closed meetings was about what to be done in europe now.

they're asking me to discuss some of the things we have done. both of you have been leading. we're anxious to hear what you have to say. the focus of today's events are on making sure that violent extremism never finds a home in the communities of the united states here. we're going to hear from representatives from los angeles, minneapolis-st. paul, as well as boston. as well as u.s. attorneys from each of those locales, who have been leading in this effort as well. your cities were chosen because of what you've already done. what you've already done. reverend brown and i go back a long way. i wrote the so-called crime bill in the united states, which everybody thinks put

100,000 cops on the street, but it devoted more money to prevention than any program we've ever engaged in the united states of america, so reverend brown, you've been at this for a long time. i'm not talking about radicalization, i'm talking about communities being left behind. and how to deal with violence. in minneapolis-st. paul, you've been working to build relations with the east african immigrants who have made your city their home. as the same folks have made my city a home on a smaller scale. a very large identifiable somali community. i might add, if you ever come to the train station with me, you'll notice that i have great relationships with them because there's an awful lot of them driving cabs and are friends of mine. for real. i'm not being solicitous. i'm being serious, so starting

in 2007, the minneapolis-st. paul, you've trained over 600 officers in the somali language and culture. you're actually stepping out to try to engage. you've invited hundreds of teens from the community to your police stations for sporting events and swimming and i'm sure you have pal-police athletic associations and the like in your city. and i know you have much more to talk about. we've asked los angeles to be here because you've reached out to the communities. you've reached out, you're building networks to try to connect the needs of your citizens with access to help everything from providing mental health resources to coming up with strategies for other interventions. sitting with us today is the head of the muslim public affairs council who came up with

a program called safe spaces initiative. teaching community leaders religious leaders and counselors how to deal with violent extremism in the city of los angeles. and in boston, you are planning to provide forums and platforms for community leaders in every community. the muslim community, all minority communities, for people to be able to advocate for nonviolence and be able to express themselves online, as well as in person. person. this is not something new to boston. as i said all the way back in

1992, reverend brown started the 10-point coalition, if i remember correctly, reverend. where a group of ministers worked to change the relationship between kids and police and kids on the street. and i might add, i'm very proud as vice president of the united states, to see how boston responded to the crisis that occurred in the marathon. it did not turn its venom, its anger, its frustration against any community. it resolved to pull the communities together. i think that was something that, as least i personally could take no credit for it, but i was very proud of -- i had the opportunity to speak on the one-year anniversary and be there for the second marathon. i was proud, i was proud of the way the bostonians stood up and moved on. i want to make it clear, though, i'm not suggesting to the press or any of our guests that i think america has all the answers here. we just have a lot more experience. by that i mean, we are a nation of immigrants. that's who we are. that is not hyperbole. we talk, teach our kids we're a melting pot. the god's truth is, we are a

melting pot. it is the ultimate source of our strength, it is the ultimate source of who we are. what we've become. it started all the way back in the late 1700's. there's been a constant unrelenting stream of immigration. not in little trickles but in large numbers. i had an opportunity to be in singapore with the former president who is now 93 years old and i was talking to him on my way to china, to meet with the president and i said, he's known as sort of the henry kissinger of asia, for real. a very wise man i said to him, i said, what are the chinese doing now? he thought -- because we were talking about how rapidly the man i've come to know relatively well, the president, has consolidated power. and he said to me and speaks perfect english, he said they're in america looking for the buried black box.

and i looked at him just like you're looking at me, like what's he talking about? he said, they're looking for that secret that allows america to constantly be able to remake itself. unlike any other country in the world. i said, i can presume to tell you what's in that black box, mr. president. i'm old enough now. i said, one is that there is -- in america there's an overwhelming skepticism for orthodoxy. from the time a child, whether they're naturalized or they're native-born, they think about it, a child never gets criticized in our education system for challenging orthodoxy. for challenging the status quo. i would argue it's unlike any other large country in the world. there's a second thing in that black box. an unrelenting stream of immigration. nonstop, nonstop. folks like me who are caucasian, of european descent, for the

first time in 2017 we'll be an absolute minority in the united states of america. absolute minority. fewer than 50% of the people in america from then and on will be white european stock. that's not a bad thing. that's a source of our strength. so, we have been -- we haven't always gotten it right. i don't want to suggest we have all the answers. but we have a lot of experience. of integrating communities into the american system, the american dream. a generation from now, as i said, things will change even more. it's not merely that we're a melting pot, but we're proud to be a melting pot. with that we've made a lot of mistakes, but we've also made a lot of progress. we've learned a lot of hard lessons.

but the most important lesson we've learned, we don't always practice it, is that inclusion counts. let me say that again. inclusion counts. being brought in and made a part of the community, whether as my irish ancestors with signs, no irish need apply, and the anti-catholic movement of the no-nothings in the late 1800's, straight through to how some respond today to the number of folks in the united states of america that are hispanic of background.