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sexual images with my head on it . to view the ads as highly sexualized rather than a highly competent state leader. there were also suggestions that i abandoned my children when i went to law school. instead, attention was diverted from a achievement. i was no longer to be applauded for graduating law school with honors while also juggling responsibilities of caring for my young family. i was to be revile for self-improvement at the expense of doing my full-time to child rearing. >> you can see that entire event with wendy davis tonight at 8:00 eastern on c-span. on the next washington journal eric of the washington institute for near east policy talks about the arab league halt to counter

-- called to counter extremism and political instability in the middle east. cq roll call reporter joins us. we talk about nations that currently have nuclear weapons and how they are monitored. we will also take your phone calls and look for your comments on facebook and twitter. beginning live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. chicago residents will choose their next mayor in a runoff election on tuesday. the candidates are incumbent mayor rahm emanuel: and jesus garcia:. the two hosted off in a debate. this is just over one hour. >> smart people may disagree about what makes a great city.

but heart of what makes chicago great is that we don't have to agree. to run a city like ours, debate is needed. we need to give the men and women that shape the policies, lead the industry's, and until the stories that the divine our -- define our city. the city club of chicago. host: on this today, march 31. the final four between the two candidates running for mayor of chicago. that is next on "chicago tonight.' ♪

host: the stakes in the mayoral election could hardly be higher. the bond rating teeters two notches above junk status. the city faces what appears to the unsurmountable pension debt and reliance on borrowing threatens every other function of government. the question on the table tonight, what qualities the candidates for mayor have to change that trajectory. joining us, the city club is helping to underwrite tonight's forum. we are live streaming this on our website. wttv.com. welcome to our viewers around the country on c-span. our political reporter is meeting at wttw online. we invite you to join the online conversation. joining us are rahm emanuel, and jesus garcia. before we begin, tonight we are doing things differently. we will start by talking mainly about finances with each

candidate individually without interruption from the other. that will give the mayor and the commissioner an opportunity to clearly answered the questions. then we will engage both on a range of topics. let us get to it. mayor, your administration is in the process of arming $500 million -- borrowing for $500 million short-term expenditures. aren't you doing what got the city into trouble? rahm emanuel: what i have done is ellen's four -- is balanced four projects. we are ending the gimmicks of the rainy day fund. more importantly, we have invested in our children. in addition to that, we have changed a lot of individual things that were inherited. we got here because politicians in the past kicked the can down the road. host: let's talk about the future. you are in the process of borrowing this money. do you plan to borrow money to

pay the $550 million due for police and fire pensions? mayor emanuel: we have three pension agreements we have done. a balanced approach that asks a little of everybody. nobody has to give too much. in 2011, the legislature passed a bill mandating property tax. i laid out a specific land of how to get out of that. first and foremost it it involved reform of what we fundamentally discrete. my opponent does not agree with any reform as part of any pension deal. host: this is before the lynn noise supreme court. rahm emanuel: it is an approach just like the city approach. it spells out a way to avoid a property tax. first and foremost, a progressive sales tax. second, a chicago-based casino. third, surplusing tif.

that allows you reform revenue to avoid a property tax increase. and the fundamental difference we have is that i not allowing any reforms saying they are off , the table, you put the onus on taxpayers. i have given you a specific plan on how to avoid a property tax. by actually having a balanced approach. host: thje e three items you mentioned are dependent on state action. what makes you think the state is going to come through on that? rahm emanuel: let's go through this -- first, the progressive sales tax which i have been enforcing. the governor's legislature is talking about it right now. host: but that would require a constitutional amendment. rahm emanuel: you are talking about income tax. it is what my opponent is for. it is viable today because the sales tax was designed 30 years ago. second, a chicago-based casino. in fact, they are talking about that as a revenue source for them. i tested, and governor quinn v

etoes it. those three revenue sources allow you to avoid a property tax consistent with 40 years in which i have not raised property taxes. host: mayor, on the topic of the casino, who would own it? rahm emanuel: chicago. i have been consistent. my opponent came out against the casino. i think a chicago-based casino is a revenue source dedicated to paying for police and fire pensions. host: how much do you think it would raise? rahm emanuel: depending on how you do it would raise additional resources. anywhere over the time of 10 years a billion dollars. host $100 million a year. :rahm emanuel: yes and you a , progressive sales tax. the reason i am for reforms, part of this is you don't have to put the burden on taxpayers. where we disagree -- when you have reform off the table, taxpayers and neighborhood services have to cut. and where my opponent and to the commission --

host: we will get to the commission in a second. who wouldn't regulate it -- regarding the casino, who wouldn't regulate it? -- who would regulate it? rahm emanuel: chicago would own it. we would have a third-party operating in. would be looked over by the state board of ethics. the good news is the first time ever in 30 years i have passed in springfield and the governor vetoed it. the one source, you can't rely not because it requires a constitutional amendment. we have the needs right now. a balanced approach where everybody gets a little and nobody has to give too much is a distinction between my opponent and i where i like the counting and like three pension agreements to work through and done a reform revenue model. it adds a balanced approach for everyone has to do a role to stabilize the funds.

if you take reform off the table, there will be cut to police officers, tax increases and there is no reason for taxpayers to bear the burden. one last point. our employees didn't cause this problem. our taxpayers didn't cause this problem. it was politicians agreeing to things that we couldn't afford getting us into this problem. what i have worked at for four years just to work her way out of commitments made for people kick the can down the road and now we have gotten to a point where we have serious crisis but i trying to work through am an end what has been 30 years of politics and getting us in a potential mess that is been around for career politicians. host let's spend some time with : the commissioner. it has to be a matter of shared sacrifice, including pension reform. jesus garcia: shared sacrifice will be something that we engage in.

first, however you have to make , sure any reform you undertake is constitutional. the bill that he passed through springfield is pending before the illinois supreme court. the court will rule, and then we will know. the legislature will act to provide relief toward the obligations we have. you cannot move it and risk the chance of it being struck down which is, in my opinion, likely to happen in illinois. host: say the supreme court surprises you and says those pension reforms that are in the law are acceptable and we give , it our blessing. would you implement those reforms with other union? jesus garcia: i would sit with those unions and talk about it. it would shed new light on the parameters. we would have a new guide to approach it. the problem with some of this is, and the question you asked is about more borrowing.

this administration has already engaged in borrowing $1.9 billion. almost $2 billion more than the previous administration borrow -- borrowed innate tenure. -- in a 10 year period. one last thing. the short-term borrowing has been used to pay for some of responses he has been talking about. it is not a single. host: one of the the non-springfield revenue proposes you have made is a luxury tax. jesus garcia: the purchase of luxury vehicles, boats, jewelry over $5,000. it generates a modest amount of dollars, but it is a part of the mix we're looking at.

host define a modest amount. :rahm emanuel: potentially between five and $10 million. it is one of the things that i put out there. it is not the only thing. i support modernizing the sales tax in illinois. it is been around for a long time. it is essentially geared toward goods. it is time to expand services. i'm glad to hear the mayor say he supports making progressive as have been most of his measures for the past four years. totaling $700 million of fines hitting especially low income earners and working-class people. it is regressive. that is how he has balanced the budget over the past four years. that is not sustainable. it is unfair. it needs to be progressive. i'm glad to hear he now agrees with me making the sales tax a progressive one. he is not defined it at the last debate. we are still at the : commissioner. you have had one executive position in your career.

a nonprofit that headache $2.9 million bullet. -- million dollars budget. you said you left the nonprofit in the black yet tax returns for the year you left shows a deficit of more than $650,000. is that wrong? jesus garcia: you are mixing apples and oranges. when i left the organization i , said it was in good fiscal health. i grew up in a nine year period. when i left it experienced a deficit, which is not it that -- not a debt. host; the: the two years before you

left, they had a deficit of more than $2 million. jesus garcia: you are mixing things up. when i left, it had a modest deficit. host: figure you left in 2009. jesus garcia: a deficit is not a debt, it is an accounting procedure. the important thing is that the organization never had to borrow money, never line of credit, it never missed one payroll. it was a good financial health. you strength you distort the record of a -- he is trying to distort the record of a nonprofit. it now has a budget of over $5 million, it is nationally registered. host: it must be safe to assume that your started to put together on your commission. who is going to be on it? jesus garcia: we have a variety of financial expert. we have labor unions. host to meet some:: give me some

examples of names you might r ecognize. jesus garcia: a former cfo at koch county board. there are other people like that. representatives of labor different labor unions. i'm not at liberty to give their names. host: what with the balance between labor folks and not labor folks? jesus garcia: i'm not authorized to release the names. when i'm elected, i will release their names. probably about 12 people. host: i turned to both of you. -- turn it to both of you. rahm emanuel: he overestimated by 72%. if you're going to recruit jobs to the city of chicago, your veracity is what people will

hang their hat on. it is a good organization, it does very good work. on a $2.7 million budget, but you left it in a deficit and claim this organization is how you prove your management chops is not going to be great confidence. jesus garcia: the organization is in solid financial health. i left it in black. they changed their reporting your at the time that i left. -- their reporting year. host: were they in the black when you left, or was a deficit? jesus garcia: there was a deficit, but no one was missing a paycheck, no one had to borrow money. as a result of the great recession that he helped usher in-- jesus garcia:rahm emanuel: single-handedly i ushered in the recession.

only my mother and you think that. [laughter] host: let's get the mayor's response. rahm emanuel: first of all, i served on the board in 2001, the recession happened in 2008. i appreciate rewriting history. i did not create the recession. [laughter] [no audio] i know something about recessions, which is why obama wanted me to be chief of staff. when i became mayor, there was still a recession. we the structural deficit in half, and now chicago is number one in corporate relocations number one city where families are moving in, and the number one little league team in america. [laughter] [applause] jesus garcia: chicago has as one

of the slowest recovery in the top five cities of the country. we are third, but we come in and number eight in terms of recovery the great recession. chicago is not all that he touts. that international terrorism has expanded in chicago -- it hasn't. we lagged between most cities in the country. he likes to paint a rosy picture. the organization, after i left it crated and awarded my name after the service that i provided to it. today, people come from all over the country to look at the expertise of the organization. rahm emanuel: he is right, it is a right organization and it does good work. that is not the point. the point is that you click your ferocity as a manager of a $2.7 million organization, which is what we have for basic afterschool programs, to be part of a major mineral program. -- mayoral program.

second, you estimated the budget by over 72%. jesus garcia: that is peanuts. the numbers that the mayor is talking about is a protected deficit -- projected to visit next year of $432 million. going to almost $600 million in the following year. host: with moveon -- let's move on and talk about the future. specifically, in terms of additional revenues the city will need. isn't it fair to say that both of you know what needs to be done in forms of property taxes but do not want to give voters the good news for the election? mayor, i will you begin. rahm emanuel: this is where we differ. i presented four budgets ina a row that put money back in the rainy day fund, and save money for our kids.

i laid out the claim without a property tax. here's the difference between us -- you ask us who was going to be on the commission, and he says he will appoint them on the date of the election. jesus garcia: that is not true, i give him some names right? rahm emanuel: he said i'm not at liberty. liberty means you will not tell people not only upfront-- host: he talked about union membership, yes. rahm emanuel: you asked names. here's what it is. as you are walking around all over the place like typical career politicians, promising everything and then the day after the election, the taxpayers get the bill. like my grandmother used to say, such a deal. and that is what your commission will be for everybody. host: is it there to say that you know exactly what to be

done, but are not telling voters what needs to be done? jesus garcia: i do not know everything that will needs to be done. i have said that when i become a mayor, i'm going to engage in audit of the city's finances that have not an independent audit. there haven't been any performance audits on any of the department in the city of chicago. rahm emanuel: we performed 25 infections. -- inspections. jesus garcia: those are not audit. --audits. host: let the mayor respond. rahm emanuel: one of the most premier accounting firm in the world do audits not only of chicago, but austin texas major fortune 100 companies

every year they audit chicago's books. also, the inspector persecutor analyzes the services that we provide. the idea that you won't run for mayor and also claim that the city of chicago's finest to permit the inspector general in cahoots without doing any audit is ludicrous on the face. your running for mayor and thing we do not do audit-- host: you said the city is cooking its books. jesus garcia: there is a veiled secrecy and you can get information about where the real revenues are going in the city of chicago. there is the receipt in the finances of the city of chicago. i want to open the books. before i can look any taxpayer in the eye and tell them i'm going to increase any taxes on them, whatever they happen to be, including property taxes i want them to know what we cap in the city of chicago. that has not occurred under this

ministration. there is a deal. -- there is a veil of secrecy. you cannot get that information online. host: you have said that a major accounting firm of the world -- rahm emanuel: you said that a major accounting firm and a former prosecutor are cooking the books. you said they are hiding information. the question is, how you called the u.s. attorney? that is a serious charge. have you called u.s. attorney on a serious charge-- jesus garcia: whatever you provide is and what taxpayers can verify. -- isn't thatwhat taxpayers can verify. jesus garcia: there has been not any audit in the city that are verifiable. they are not independent audit of the city of chicago. rahm emanuel: we are in the black. host;: gentlemen, let us move on.

give us one new revenue idea that the city council and the mayor can't enact with no action from its prefilled. mr. garcia, you took about increasing the luxury. -- luxurey tax, what else? jesus garcia: a lot of our taxpayer dollars has gone into the downtown area. you give him a lot of time. pleae. --please. wealthy holding runners in the downtown area -- wealthy building owners in the downtown area healthy law firms who have lots of clouts, they go into the board of appeals and receive dramatic reduction in the assessment of those buildings. the potential for recouping hundreds of millions of dollars by sending our corporation counsel to those hearings and to

intervene on behalf of taxpayers for buildings that have significant value could field -- could yield a lot of money to citizens. hundreds of millions of dollars. 11 buildings sold in the last year in the downtown area could easily generate $100 million. rahm emanuel: let's take the example. we do need to collect taxes. chicago actually doesn't receive a letter money went when property goes to another. host: what the commissioner is saying that a fair assessment on which these taxes are based. rahm emanuel: yes. jesus garcia: empire state

going, which is a similar negative generates 3-4 times amount of property taxes than those of the willis tower. rahm emanuel: on taxes here in the city of chicago, i have talked about in one of ways to avoid a property tax increase is a tif surplus. third, i talked about the casino. also, i talked about a progressive sales tax. because the sales tax we have today failed. it is structured on the economy 30 years ago. the classic example of what i mean. a single mother buys schools place for her child and pays a sales tax. you join a club, you do not pay a sales tax. the reasonable you join a health club, you do not pay a celtic. -- sales tax. i believe those organizations

should reflect-- i think it is an honest statement, isn't it? host: let's move onto a different topic of concern. this is a viewer question. you can't soundproof your guard, your park, your neighborhood. soundproofing and noise monitors are just a dog to deal with the only real problem, which is hundreds of loud toxic polluting playing flowing -- planes flying over our communities. what do you say to those? rahm emanuel: you can insulate your homes, but you cannot insulate outside. the solution to this is getting faa to expedient its studies of that we can have a pair -- have o'hare to have all of the runways used as an appropriate time.

if faa controls this, between the two of us, it requires leadership of someone to give us the answer and solve the problem. too often anonly two parts otf the runways. the residents are correct in the defense. we have expanded insulation. your impaired because of flight patterns. jesus garcia: the first thing that i your shouldn't do -- that a mayor should do is meet with neighbors. the area around the airport has been complaining about this. you can at least do that. why not go there and for yourself? why not engage them? that is what a mayor should do. you may not be will to solve their concerns, but i support keeping the old roadways as well

as the utilization of the new ones. engaging in new measures that would mitigate the existing noise. yes, they have some ideas, they ought to be heard, and i advocate them. i will have the faa come and meet with them. that is leadership, and that is being a good leader. host: speaking of leadership, we have testers outside of channell 11 11 as this is havingppening. rahm emanuel: i feel at home now. [laughter] host: why haven't you met with the people affected by the airport? rahm emanuel: i have met with them. i met with the ultimate affected area. -- alderman affected area. i called and wrote a letter to the faa to speed up the report.

it is a major job engine, a major economic engine, not lethal across the area. host: you met with the alderman, not the community. jesus garcia:rahm emanuel: understand you cannot use your backyard when the expansion comes with it. jesus garcia: i met with them. rahm emanuel: chuy, it's not hard. the hard part is getting the answer, which what i am working at. that is what it needs to be a mayor. jesus garcia: disconnected. give them a half hour. they are your greatest investment. to be heard? rahm emanuel: meeting with people in petco facilities, we did that. in closing coal plants, i met

with them. jesus garcia: going to coal plants again. host: this is the second time the commissioner has expressed skepticism about your role in closing: plants -- in closing coal plants. rahm emanuel: i'd appreciate, they have been advocating for 20 years. i was listening to them. they said we need to get this done because kids are showing up in the hospital with asthma attacks. chguy did play a role. when they needed to get the job done and not just protest, i called the ceo into the office and said his would be easy or

hard. today, under my tenure, the city leaders finally got it done as i opened up the floor to them. host: commissioner, we give the mayor credit for closing the deal? jesus garcia: i get the mayor credit for getting in ad for his reelection giving. host: you do not given credit? jesus garcia: no i don't. part of the recently caol --- of the reason coal plants were going to close because they were uneconomical to the operators. this is been worked on for a long time. community residents have been working on that in little village or 20 years. it was the result of people in the working -- in little village working for a long time.

rahm emanuel: in a negotiating is a mayor, you use that as leverage to shut down. the effort goes into the community groups. the difference is that protesting is not the same as making process. not to shut down coal plants, but to invest in neighborhoods so that they-- jesus garcia: not money came the state. host: we have a viewer question for mayor emanuel. many of your donors receive contracts in the city and are exempt from your new revelations. given -- your new regulations.

rahm emanuel: that is a fundamental reform of chicago's hiring practice where corruption to occur. here are the three things that i thought supporters that they are wrong. we are raising the minimum wage in the city of chicago by 40%. if you work, work should pay. 2, i told the real estate development that you put $90 million into the fund. 3, i closed the loophole that exist in our taxes that left companies to take luxury

skyboxes. when it came to asking chuy garcia you couldn't name one thing. having a no-bid contract is one of his supporters in the camp. jesus garcia: what kind of a donation has been made to the campaign? that's false. has he given me $1000? no. according to forbes magazine, he has received from 600 investors $7 million.

over $20 million and 100 donors. they are all rich and powerful. when you have or suspect that involved in politics, what happened to the little guys? what happens to taxpayers in the city of chicago? they get shut out. you by the airways, you monopolize the discourse, you get away. -- you get your way. he figured he would get reelected because he is wealthy donors decking his campaign. -- backing his campaign. that is why he is in a runoff. that is white voters -- why voters wanted change. rahm emanuel: that family was thrown out of the airport free tenure no-bid deal. -- for a 10 year no-bid deal.

when i came to office there were 3 cranes in the city of chicago. now, chicago is finally on the move again. if you don't know how to manage city finances, copies will not have the confidence to come here. -- companies will not have the confidence to. host: it was recently revealed he received a 250 thousand dollars donation magic johnson. is that not another example of your interviews benefiting from the deal? rahm emanuel: no. it was a low-bid deal. i am proud we will give 5000 kids who never had an opportunity for a job and alternative. i'm happy that magic just solved the problem of chicago's youth.

jesus garcia: the chicago tribune has called pay to play with it. that is construed as in -- pinstripe patronage. it is as robust as ever. he plugs when it wasn't made any significant financial contributions to my campaign. that is distorting. host: as he discussed potential contracts with you? jesus garcia: he is discussed giving me those in the ward in which he lives. rahm emanuel: you still haven't named the three things you will tell -- that is what really matters, is telling the mayor he is wrong. host: your son has been arrested local funds. in 2013, he was arrested with a

felony of attacking a police officer. is he still a gang member? jesus garcia: my wife and i live in a neighborhood that is how it share of problems, -- had its share of problems. we try to be as loving and caring as possible. he made some mistakes, i am not proud of it. all about love we do not give him if he was not enough. he now has four children that he is raising. he is a chef and mentors in the community. he turned his life around, and i am proud of him. host: is he still in a gang? rahm emanuel:jesus garcia: no. rahm emanuel: i don't think this is a fair line of questioning. [applause] rahm emanuel: with respect, a lot of voters may wonder, if you can keep your own son out of a

gang-- [crowd boos] rahm emanuel: how can you steer the city away from gangs and violence? jesus garcia: it was growing up in a neighborhood with gang violence that depend -- deepend our resolve to stay there . it was one of the highlights of my work. today, people come from all over the country to look at the organization we have done. host:my son has only been convicted of two m misdemeanors. what you are spreading is something that was published anecdotally in the newspaper. we did the best that we could for him. there other things that you do not know about my son and the

work that he is done. he has been a mentor with the ymca intervention program. he has mentored kids in the neighborhood and many other neighborhoods. he is also worked on trauma issues in the city of chicago. is a great story stop. [applause] host: i am happy to give you the opportunity to tell stthat story. let us get back to pay-to-play. jesus garcia: when my son received services from the law firm, i do not ask the law firm to provide them. with a mutual who referred him there. host: it was a campaign lawyer. jesus garcia: it was before i was elected to the cook the board.

they have known him since he was three years old, he went to them asking for advice. i did not see any conflict of interest. to this date, i see no conflict of interest. it was before i was elected to the cook county board. how much the from gets with meniscal amount from what they did. the comes with a complete package. that is my ethics as a politician and it public servant. [applause] host: would you support advert to keep his job at finance chairman? -- ed burke? rahm emanuel: first of all, i have not got elected to say that. host: i will ask the commissioner of the same. one of you will be elected. will you keep ed as finance chairman? rahm emanuel: the answer is yes. host: why does he still have a

security detail. it is diminished, but he still has one. rahm emanuel: we have made it smaller. we have cut back everybody's, including my. host: still costing the city money. rahm emanuel: i have it, other individuals have it. there is no part of the budget that is not get reformed. everybody got cutbacks. i made it happen. host: commissioner, if elected mayor, would you keep ed burke a s chair of the finance committee? jesus garcia: we will discuss that with the chicago city council by a vote. host: your vote would be a big one. jesus garcia: context is important. on february 24, voters in chicago voted for change. that is why this gentleman here is in a runoff.

that is white 19 members of the city council are also in runoffs. to me, that is a strong message being sent to the next mayor and the city council. we are going to have those conversations. host: you are suggesting there might be a change. jesus garcia: yyeses. we will review the security detail of the alderman. part of the reason we have to do that is the terrible management of the city's finances that have resulted in five downgrades over the past two years including two public chicago schools where we have to look at all of the expenditures of the city of chicago, including those of the chicago city council. rahm emanuel: first and were most, the bigger issue is making change how we deal with insurance as it relates to workers comp. it is a major source of saving money. second, let's deal with the downgrade. host: get back to that.

rahm emanuel: that committee you save a lot on worker's comp. host: a lot of people have no idea what ed burke does. [applause] rahm emanuel: let me get to the bigger point because of the downgrade you just brought up. the downgrade very specifically points to its pension at cps. the state senate, you cast a vote to allow cps to skip the missed in the teachers pensions, they wanted that it will create the financial mess. the problem we have today is that your hands and figure prints all over the shovel and you are now pointing guns at people. -- pointing fingers at people. it took 30 years of career auditions casting votes in -- career politicians casting a

vote in springfield. host:, the credibility of moddiodies? rahm emanuel: exactly what they said, the crisis of the pension. is years and decades in the working. the first time that cps skipped payments is that when chuy was in the state senate. 3/4 of the financial errors at cps are related to the pension. host: it is not a statement on the past, it is a projection of the city's credit worthiness. rahm emanuel: i want to end the dual taxation of chicago

taxpayers. host: all requiring action of the state commissioner. jesus garcia: there is long history of financial mismanagement related to rahm emanuel. can make fun of it and say that i accused them of bringing up the great recession but he was a rubberstamp on the board that approved any physicians that were passed. -- many decisions. host: we were talking about bond ratings. jesus garcia: the pattern here is that he promised four years ago to fix on finances. now he wants to highlight about i did on education and health care with a $30 billion budget. he claims that i ushered in an era of pension fund being out of whack. that is crazy.

that is like me leaving him personally for the recession. he has to reach that far back? he said four years ago he would put the fiscal house in order. now he is in a financial reform. chicago's finances are in the worst of the country. rahm emanuel: chuy, you can attack me. but everybody knows the attacks on the right smokescreen for the fact that you like an agenda to it tech -- to attack the city of chicago. the crisis on pensions did not happen overnight. we have inherited it is day one. -- since day one. we have rolled up our sleeves but the structural deficit in half. we have restructured it, which is white businesses and jobs are finally coming back to the city. they have confidence in the city.

nobody is going to have the confidence-- jesus garcia: the federation has warned him to stop borrowing for the wrong policy. they've told him to stop using that borrowing to fund short-term operations. you given more time, can i have equal time? host: this is a follow-up on what you what set. you up increased --you have increased to the cap to $1 million. why is that? rahm emanuel: these problems we inherited. the first everyone recommended discriminate cuts across the board. -- in discriminate cuts across the board.

some have asked to just raise taxes. i rejects both of those. i ended the gimmicks. the worst and to do is to do with the other politician has done. host: he gave some names. jesus garcia: i have 5 minutes here. rahm emanuel:it is an accounting gimmick. he traded to do a property taxes

increase lester through the state legislature. is trying to pass a $250 property tax the general assembly. last today, he admitted there is waste water in the budget -- in the city budget. rahm emanuel: every year, we make structural reforms. you find efficiencies. you increase afterschool funding and summer jobs. we have gone throught the budget, found that waste.

you go through every year and find deficiencies. our job isn't done. we cut the structural deficit in half. host: how would you lower tensions between african americans and latinos over pensions and taxes? jesus garcia: chicago cannot move forward until all communities get a fair share. until there is equity in the city. chicago cannot offer as long as some doing -- cannot prosper. there is not equity. there are barriers that have kept out of the mix in terms of

promotions and contracts. the culture of objects in chicago is in part responsible. it is also structural racism. barriers that have deny people the opportunity to advance. i have been a consistent reformer and aggressive and coalition builder. that is the type of government i want. rahm emanuel: i want to speak to this issue. the reason i sent the letter to businesses in indiana, is because their bigotry there is wrong. diversity is our strength.

look at chuuy and i, two different ethnicities. is the greatest city in america where you can still achieve the american dream for your children. working together and sharing the experiences. where does that happen? educationally. host: let us talk about education. rahm emanuel: is a big issue given the history of our city . while this has been a weakness this is one of our greatest strengths.

jesus garcia: part of the acrimony with respect to this mayor is he triggered strikes. is confrontational tile is not conducive to coming to terms and achieving outcomes in the city of chicago. i will be collaborative. i will end pay-to-play politics in chicago. host: 90% of teachers voted to strike. how much of a disadvantage or you, given the hostility you have engendered? rahm emanuel: let me be clear about three things. 28 unions agreed and worked with us.

we've worked through about two dozen contracts in a very amibale way. chicago kids were having the shortest school day and school year in america. my opponent does not agree with that. jesus garcia: i will represent myself. do not let him represent me. what is he my attorney? host: we are out of time. thanks to rahm emanuel: and jesus garcia:. special thanks to the city club members and guests who joined us this evening. you can watch videos of the news conference later tonight. there, you can find more information about the candidates. union on april 22 -- tune in on

april 22. we look over to seeing one of you in april. thank you gentlement very much. [applause] >> tony perkins talks about the religious freedom of easily passed in indiana and arkansas. he also discusses the 20 16th presidential election and the role conservatives will have in the race. watch the interview sunday at 10 a.m. and 6 p.m. eastern on seas. -- on c-span. >> this weekend, the c-span cities for has partnered with cox communications. >> frank phillips was an oil man. it became the headquarters for

philips 66. today, you see the familiar shie ld. philips 66 has become familiar to people out here as a coke bottle. it is that iconic in the minds of many motorists. he was part of the flamboyant oil fraternity that came out of the late 19th century into the 20th century. these were very macho men who had amazingly solid egos. they were very sure of themselves, and that was very important. but, he was human. that is part of the story. he was many things. but always, first and foremost,

he was an oil man. announcer: next, former texas state senator wendy davis talks about politics, and after, a discussion on conservative messaging. texas state senator wendy davis spoke for more than 10 hours in 2013, opposing a texas law on abortion clinics. she was the texas democratic nominee for governor. she last -- lost to greg cap it. she discussed the difficulties faced by her and other women running for political office. this is one hour. [applause]