there are people considered disabled that are on disability. almost half those are on disability due to mental illnesses, but we don't have a voice in any party anywhere. we have no one who represents us. i'm not asking for representation. i'm asking when are we going to be brought to the table to represent ourselves. where is our voice? i don't think people are capable of representing us. i heard a phrase called behavioral health. my behavior is not a problem. i think we need to start thinking about this as a global problem, a health problem. and we need to really talk about it and listen to people dealing with these illnesses, who are dealing with the realities of a

stigma that leave us jobless that leave us out of the educational system, that leave us having our children taken away at much higher rates than other people. i will have my voice heard wherever it will be heard. thank you. >> just to offer a comment on that i think what you are raising about a set of women's issues these aren't issues. these are what human life is about. we have a political system that last the capacity to respond to

humanity in human ways. what we are trying to do in bringing about reform is that they can do that. that is what the movement stands for. that is what the fundamental principles are. i appreciate your statement. thank you. >> i don't want to add the mechanism on top of it, but i will. when only one person represents you, you get winner take all where dangerous perspectives or minority opinions or those in the minority have a hard time getting representation and millions of people can lose out from that. if you crack that open so more people are representing you and allow 20% to represent each group of five, then you crack that wall. we have to have that conversation. thank you for those remarks.

>> i am here from atlanta georgia today. i am active in the georgia independent voters. many of us will go back home where a few of us collaborate on reform. what is one action item you suggest we do at home in grassroots organizing? what is your call to action for those of us in the audience? [applause] >> anyone want to speak to that? >> i will say quickly every state has their own rules and structures that can be examined. there is a toolkit to examine them. maybe that's something we should work on. we do have runoff elections so that an independent can run strong and no one will call them a spoiler. if they are put in the spoiler role there is a runoff.

look at your primary system. we need to make it easier. >> i also think you don't need to know in the sense of go knock on 10 doors and ask that question to 10 people and go to a local meeting and engage. i really think in some ways the environment the question is going to be answered is much bigger than rob and i and all of us. it has got to be to engage local dialogue, and you can lead that. >> you have to start by speaking up. you have to start by being engaged, by talking about the things you care about.

you will find other like minded people. as you find other like minded people, you will start to find like-minded groups. at the end of the day it's going to have to be a compromise on a local basis. the journey of a thousand steps begins with one. the one great thing i believe exists in this country is our ability to create change. it's much more likely in a state where you have the referendum process. i think 30 states do. you have the ability for the people's voice to rise above the legislative and political interest voice. it starts with organizing, getting involved talking with other people, or social media. >> maybe one other suggestion is let's start a chapter for the book club and have you be the organizer.

[applause] >> thank you. good evening. i'm ashley bruno. i agree that clean air clean water, and clean food are basic fundamental important things. let's just say recently my last two recent facebook posts say partnerships for independent power. it says to sign a unity letter to stop the keystone pipeline. i look at both of them. on the issue of how can we make independent power a hot topic it's what is our stance on

independence from oil, gas nuclear, and how can we merge these issues? on the forefront of wanting to conserve our resources we are knocking on doors. we are getting signatures from people where let's get a thousand people in front of the governor's mansion to shout and say we are angry. let's get 300,000 people in new york city to show them we have a voice and are angry, get we have to lobby with these people who don't care. we have to get to the root of the problem. if we can elect people who care, we don't have to spend so much time chasing them around, seven taunting them until we say they care.

i think that is a step in the right direction. i am thinking independent power for independent power. >> my name is freddie. i am from oregon. i walk with these independent voters. she said something i was thinking about. we talked about getting rid of the mess people can make a difference by voting.

if people think they can make a difference simply by showing up twice the year and checking a box, it's not going to happen. all of the major reforms have passed because the people have gotten together and fought for it. the gentle man, the second from the end spoke about the difference between president obama and candidate obama. i believe candidate obama was the right guy at the right time. the difference between the people shows you know matter who you put in place they are to some degree corruptible by the

system in place. the problem with candidate obama and so many dichotomies like that is the people that got him there, they said, we have done it. it will be ok. we need to stick around. the squeaky wheel got the grease. it happens to be the tea party. they were louder than us. that has affected the obama administration. my fear is a lot of what we have been talking about today is setting things up so people can show up two times a year, check a box, and hope it works.

if these types of reforms pass it's going to be because of this because of people showing us getting together and making it happen, but if we pass reform and put the right people in place and don't stay on top of them, they will get corrupted by the system. there is no reform we can pass that can create a hands-free democracy. that is what i would like to staay. we need to stay involved. >> i would simply say i think there is a difference between being constrained and being corrupted. i think what it shows is nothing happens in a vacuum.

i think it was a step forward having elected obama and they elected him into a constraining process. i think what people are trying to do with this movement is to ensure the process doesn't remain a vacuum, and you can open that up and change it throughout. >> i think it is so important. i forgot the exact words. i will paraphrase. the activity of the american people self organizing to take the democracy back is transformative in and of itself. we cannot go to sleep after

that, but that might wake us up. >> i think i want to move on. i'm going to run this discussion until 4:30 so the folks at the mike are the speakers. we are going to close off after you. >> my name is sarah, and i am from kentucky. i want to say first i caution alienating the tea party, the republican party, or the democrat party. as a republican, i am just as disenfranchised as you are living in a county where only democrats run. they are decided in the primary. i don't have a voice either. don't alienate people to that extent. it is nobody else's fault except the american people. they are the one who got us in the situation.

i have a question about proposition 14. i did some research on it. wasn't it also one of the most expensive primaries in recent years, and are you planning on putting any methods in place to stop it from being whoever buys the most media wins? that is what we got right now. california is not going to work the same in every state. each state has a different political coulter. what is the next step to ensure -- political culture. what is the next step? they are just going to click the button for the thing they heard the most. are you planning on making the next step? >> i think that's a good question. you cannot dissociate what is

happening with what is happening in the media. when they report on not increasing voter turnout, they fail to report everywhere else in the country it has dropped off. when they talk about more money being involved they don't talk about more competitive elections and more votes matter. of course you have to spend more money because there are more voters at play. they talk about it. the one thing fascinating about california's primary that most people have no idea -- we have the largest black caucus in the history of california. three black people got elected who did not have the democratic party endorsement. get to educated us that we have the largest black caucus. the media. >> arizona does not have an open primary, and we had the single

largest election in terms of spending as well. why? money rules have changed the game in terms of money that is going to be spent. we are going to try to curb it. i will tell you the supreme court left that pretty clear. you are going to see a lot more money being spent. the question you ought to ask is would you rather allow the money to influence the system where they can have a much greater influence moving your candidates towards an extreme or one where every voter gets to vote in every election? i feel much safer with the latter. >> the last point on voting and money in politics, it is used in about a dozen cities. minneapolis and oakland and portland, maine. one consistent thread is candidates spending the most part mayor are losing.

they are running a more traditional campaign. the scrappy or candidates who ultimately win our ones who do a grassroots campaign. second or third choices you really need to win in a competitive race. you don't win with a 32nd tv ad. you have to -- 30 second tv ad. there is no magic answer to money and politics, but there are ways to reduce its impact. >> my name is william. i am from brooklyn, new york. i have two quick questions. as we move forward with ballot initiatives and legislative initiatives, i'm wondering if there is a possibility of combining the runoff with proportional representation.

the other question i have is senator chuck schumer from new york has come out in favor of open primaries of some sort. >> sure. >> i don't mind addressing that. >> i mentioned a need to simplify. i think we should have other systems and we see if they work. our lawsuit we have an oral argument on tuesday. we explain different symptoms. what we need is a discussion about the electoral process itself and to go into the discussion knowing that none of us have the right answer or the best solution because very few solutions have been tried. how would we know? packs>> we have a system where

everything goes to the november ballot. if it is a legislature, you have more than one person winning. rather than one seat in elected you have three. that is a statutory change. that is an example of how they fit together. >> a question on the campaign the gentleman asked. senator schumer wrote an editorial punished during the summer which came out very vocally and strongly in support of the top to open primaries, and he never said another word. we decided let's remind him this is the position he took. there has been a campaign run in new york over the last several

months where thousands of new yorkers are signing on to a letter to senator schumer calling on him not only to lead the effort to bring the primaries to new york, but in particular to have the democratic party make a decision to open its primaries in new york to all independent voters, something senator schumer is in a position to do because the party could do that without having to go to the legislature or any such thing. how many signatures? over 7000 signatures. there you go. people can sign at the open primaries table. please do on the way out. >> the congressional lobbying of the new york delegation. >> there has been a series of meetings to push them to follow the lead of their senior

democrat leader with regards to the top two issues. we continue to push the issue from the bottom up. >> the question is inspired by the acronym. committee for a unified independent party. my question is we try to define the future of the independent movement. i would like an opinion from everybody. are we to think about it as defining a new third party that is going to have policy and platform and eventually rank and file and may be more power, and it would be easy to get a voice because of the money that would go with it, or might we retain that independent spirit and take as heterogeneous parts scattered through the country loosely affiliated through the country but retain the freethinking spirit?

the question would be where do you see the future of the independent movement? >> i will back it up first. i am speaking just for myself, not for the movement. i think becoming a party is the single worst thing we can do. [applause] i don't want any organization controlling my way of thinking. nor do i want the other candidates to be controlled by it. i want the voters to have a right to listen to me and make a decision as to who they would like to have. i would like all the voters to be involved in the process. i think there are things the independent movement can do.

it can be helpful in changing the structure so more people can participate. i think it can help in education. i think having more candidates running is a good thing. they may not win but they can change the debate. somebody mentioned teddy roosevelt. teddy roosevelt lost the election, but he changed the outcome, much like rush limbaugh did when he ran against bill clinton. having an independent candidate running for president that was talking about the importance of allowing all people the right to vote and that the right to vote comes from the voters maybe is the catalyst that begins to help move the change forward. helping independent candidates i think that is a good idea. endorsing independent candidates -- that is terrible. we are trying to get more people a choice and that is what we should be doing as an

organization. [applause] >> one minor correction -- it was ross perot. [laughter] i think that we need to have a flowering of association. this is a room of people that feels connected, or seem to be a lot of connection as independents. it is not like no one wants to be connected. it is ok to be connected to people. i think that to be rigidly boxed in democrat/republican that is it, that is not it. but if we can have a balance that allows association to be shown, to connections to be shown, that you can call it a party, but it is not rigid in

their mighty in new one and a couple years -- that brings people in and makes people feel connected. i think there is a whole conversation to be had about how that can be put into our politics. watching states that i have talked to -- it starts, and you have a certain number of characters where it says you can say what you are connected. you can say your association. people are very creative about that. whatever they feel connected to. if we move that direction and allow more choices on the ballot, where we have a right to choice system to accommodate that choice, i think we have a politics that brings more people in. >> go ahead. >> the committee for a unified independent party, which was the founding name of our organization, was created in

1984 in the context of the creation of the national reform party, which grew off the perot run. the reform party came together, basically as a left-center-right coalition of independence who were working to form an national party to leverage against the standard behavior of political parties. we had beautiful experimental period from 1995-1999, into during that time we brought americans together from across the political spectrum and looked to bring other independent parties into a relationship with us, to build a broad, unified, independent party. one of the things that happened after about five years of existence was that the major parties came in in different ways. essentially wrecked to the reform party. one of the things we learned

from that experience is that literally the form of organization that is a party gravitates in a particular direction that ends up deflating and depressing the very cause that brings people into independent politics in the first place. i am extremely sympathetic to paul's decision. after 2000, we made a shift away from party building to organizing independent voters into associations that could leverage political power that could engage with the political establishment, including political parties, but without turning ourselves into a political party because we found that culturally and politically eight us to vulnerable to do that. we are creating new forms of expressing political power in this movement. i think there is a unity between form and substance. that is what we are searching for.

that is why we have been cautious -- we don't want to create anything that is premature or pre-decided or prepackaged, because this is a movement with a new vision in new ideals and it has to have forms that can express it. [applause] >> i went echo -- i would echo. i don't think you can start with parties because i think the whole idea is opening the process. in order to change the process you have to be able to bring people into the process, and i think that is the voting cache. i think it opens the process so that people who feel like they can't participate can participate, and as paul said, once you get one person taking one step and collectively taking that step, than the structures that will support that will begin to naturally develop.

>> thank you for your question. yes? >> hi, i am a community college student and a student of dr. rafael mendez. [applause] i question is -- where does development fit in in your reform? without development, we do not have a democracy. if we do not fit development into democracy, we cannot change the law. without changing the law, we cannot change the culture we live in. >> i think that something freddie said earlier speaks directly to that, that no reform leads to a hands-free democracy. that goes with the development issue. in my mind development is the key issue. credit part of political reform is can you get the party's

grip off the process for a moment, for a second? can you create some space for development? that is not a guarantee. there are lots of departments for development. -- lots of environments for development. medicaid create new conversations. once you enact top two that is when the challenge starts. not before. when the system is close down, the opportunities for development are nil. to open it up, and that is when we have to get to work and create the new conversations. i think it is a very crucial question. >> thank you. [applause] >> hi, i am rebecca feldman from new jersey. i want to thank you for doing this, for inviting me. i have learned so much today and

i am so inspired and i have a practical question. i think political reform is popular with the american people. do have shown that with the surveys you have done. but to connect with people when they are listening, when they are going to the polls, for the 30 some odd states that do have the power of initiative and referendum better to pursue it in a presidential year? an off year? do he know yet what that pinpoint is -- is it about turnout and getting the right audience? can you tell us something about timing? >> i think the landscape might be different, at first, we should all thank rebecca -- [applause] obviously it plays a huge role as it relates to -- we file in the primary, which is counterintuitive and against the

advice of a clinical consultant. -- a political consultant. i don't think we would have passed it. but consultants were saying this is a partisan primary. independent voters don't turn out. but we had done the polling to know that, with a lower turnout all we had to do was communicate with a lesser number of nonaffiliated voters and we could do it while the party was sleeping. institutional money wasn't going to come around until the general election. we said keep it on the ballot. we drove a campaign to voters that the parties don't talk to because it doesn't matter to them. the increased voter turnout by 450,000 that election, which was enough to margin a victory. [applause] >> it has been very state-by-state. we and arizona cap put hours on

the primary election day. what we do know is that in all collection years the year when we elect our governor, turnout drops by 20%-20 5%. what we know is that it is disproportionately young people, independence, and minorities. we can statistically show that. those are also groups we tend to do better worth in an open primary. but i don't know what exists in arizona for every state. i really do think that what chad provided and what his dad provided in california was the ability to be strategic, to look at it, to think about it, and to try to figure out a campaign strategy that would get them to a win number. at the end of the day, all that matters -- what do you win and what do you lose? at least the people we care about that are affected by these

policies -- if we lose, we have done nothing. we may be moved the ball a little. but you have to think about whether you are ranked voting or talk to, whether you are on a. primary or general election. what are you going to do to lose it? it will be enough to create the change that we want. >> i would only add one thing to those very good remarks, which is that study your yes vote and factor that in, because it may be different in different places. take some time to build support for it, like rushing can be seductive but it is usually dangerous. >> thank you all. >> yes? >> my name is katie byrne and i am a freshman at the university of north carolina-greensboro.

in relation to progressive panic and the independent party being reestablishing humanity within a very politicized right, specifically with the clear and trans community, i would wonder how that is going to happen without a specific set of partisan things in regards to -- you can think of the lela alcorn act being put into place, but only after she killed herself. how is this going to help me as a queer person? how many more queer people have to die before real change is going to happen? the democratic party is failing queer people beyond the very agreeable point of gay marriage. we are very much left out of a lot of political movement. >> i might just get a comment from arizona's standpoint.

in arizona, one session ago, we had a bill that got out of our legislature that said you couldn't do anything to stop businesses from being able to discriminate against someone for being gay. i can just about promise you that it would have lost in front of the voters, it would not have been successful. why the disconnect? because the majority of the legislature is elected by 4% of the people. they are captive to them -- they can't speak to the general electorate because they can't get reelected if they do. then when you combine that with the caucus, where they become afraid the moderate republicans become afraid of the more conservative ones, it becomes very harsh on minority groups. my answer is that the idea you have is good. they are things that are important.

the things that will motivate the public like the martin luther king movement when it reached a broader audience. we are at the most risk dealing in an isolated room with a group of people who quite candidly don't put your interest as a priority. >> i would add one thing to that, which is that i think bringing the american people together around democracy and around taking control of our political process and asserting ownership of our government, our country, our political culture the way we wanted to organize ourselves as a society means that we can't break out of a certain kind of atomization or identity-based politics, where every group is looking at a situation based simply on an

identity that they have been given. it allows people to come together and learn from each other. my issue with respect to the questions that you are raising is that i want all of america to understand by virtue of knowing and being close to and working alongside with. i want all of america to understand that the queer community is dealing with. right now we have the political situation that doesn't allow that to happen. unless there is a tragedy where headlines are made, that is the only time we can break through. we can't allow that to happen. we have to have a political system and a political process that allows people to be who they are and work together to make a better america for everyone. to me, one of the things that is most exciting -- and i have been a political activist since i was three -- [laughter] -- is that we can do that, now

we can break out of issue orientation, identity politics and say, hey, we are going to come together as a country, we are going to come together as a people, we are going to make sure that justice is done for everyone, that everyone has the right to live the way they want to live, that everyone is protected to live the kind of life that they want to live, and we are going to build this country in such a way so that everyone can fulfill their individual and creative potential. that is what this movement is about. [applause] that is why i think that is why i think the democracy issue is your issue, i really do. >> there are two more speakers who came to the podium, even though i was planning to close it -- i've going to let you speak but you will have literally 30 seconds. >> i love the discussion we are

having particularly given the folks who were appear. it is a little heavy on the kind of electoral, tactical discussion -- should we do talk to or this or that. i would love if the panel could speak a little bit to how you understand the necessity of building a movement for independent political reform, particularly in light of the title -- how we make a popular. i have been doing this a long time, we were involved in the first campaign in 2004. it was a very wonky discussion and we got our asses kicked. only through a lot of trial and error and hard work did it actually happen and once we passed it, only 25% of independents knew they could participate.

our group went out and ordinary citizens that with all the registrars in order to change the way voter education materials worked. i would love it if you could speak a little bit to how you understand building a movement to make these tactics basically worthwhile. >> i might just give a quick comment. the nice thing about building this movement is that the other side is doing a lot to help us. [laughter] almost daily. they do things inside their parties that are disenfranchising voters and pushing them to the outside. they are making them give up on the system and that is the danger. our danger is that the public tends to be giving up. they are starting to believe that maybe we can't make this thing better. we have to give them hope. what we have to do is make them believe, to believe that we can make things better. that is why i'm here and that is

why most people in the room are here. [applause] >> this is not a direct answer, but one of the things that keeps going around in my head and in my life is that one of the lessons of being active and building together is that you don't need permission to do something. people can just do something and then you can see what happens and then you can do something else. this program is a wonderful example. after a police murder in new york they came about and said, "what is something we can do that is really different?" if we can teach americans that

they can do something new together, i think that goes a long way. [applause] >> let me take this opportunity right now to say that i think what i was saying earlier, that i really see this issue as a social justice issue, that we have a system that excludes people from meaningfully participating in an election where they can make their own choice. i say if there is not going to be any justice, there can be no peace. [cheering and applause] >> two thumbnails -- we have seen voting pass, in a lot of

them it was a very small number of people that said let's do this. sarasota florida -- it's three people who pushed it. they got on the ballot and 78% of the vote. there are different places. there is one state -- sarasota is an independent group that works at minneapolis-st. paul. but they also created an organizational the ground, as they did it, and kept it. to have to defend your system, make it work, support candidates. not directly support them, but help them understand the system. that kind of movement building is harder, but it is sustainable in a way that it is likely to expand in that state. this is winnable stuff. i think you have to be smart but if you pick it a relatively

small number of people can be the catalyst. they can be sustained into something lasting that will be bigger and there are a lot of people who can help do that. [applause] >> my name is neil. i'm a lawyer in new york. i'm also a candidate for president of independence. i have been fighting the democratic party and running fighting to get insurgent candidates on the ballot. it is very, very difficult because in some courts there is such corruption. in quince county, the lawyers you are fighting against -- judges are on the bench. i had the real unfortunate situation in federal court fighting to get a candidate on the ballot. mr. wells, who is now a councilman, finding out after the case that the judge had been appointed by the other side.

now i have a case in the united states court of appeals to try to outlaw the new york state board of elections. the new york state board of elections is the most corrupt institution i've ever seen. you are only allowed to have directors of the most prejudiced people -- you can only be on the board if you represent the republican or democratic party and they decide who was on the ballot and who is not on very technical cases. how could you have -- the biggest party group is independent, and they have no representation on the situation. it is a total violation of one man one vote. i really applaud your movement and your efforts, but i do think that you can't get legislation passed unless you have candidates, unless you have a structure. this noble organization --

you don't have to be part of that structure. you made a decision, you have the experience. but there also is a need for independent parties where a person can get legislation passed and hope to change the situation, and that is what i am running on. i want to thank you for the opportunity -- one last comment. i read from a year last year. i ran for mayor and here im, the reverend who wrote two books. i am a former assistant da and a public school teacher and got excluded in the debate. how can you have such terrible corruption in the system and allow it to go on? thank you very much. [applause] >> my name is kevin johnson. i decided i was independent in 1992. a lot of the things ross perot were saying so many people didn't.

[laughter] a large -- if we can organize a big margin and a whole lot of people taking advantage of the warm weather, at least 100,000 and the other thing is -- how many people are familiar with the coast-to-coast am radio show? that is a good one for us to go on because you can lay it all out on the line. jesse ventura has been on their. that has 10 million loyal listeners that are all smart people. they talk about a lot of behind-the-scenes things like this. it is a perfect show. can we help jackie get on the coast-to-coast a.m.? maybe we can work on that. [applause] >> all right. let's get our panelists another round of applause. [cheering and applause]

thank you so much. i'm going to close us out now. thank you so much for being here and for participating in these conversations. i think some of what we have pursued and opened up and talked about today are really some of the most important discussions that are going on in the country today. we want to continue them outside the theater. i will come out there and i want to say hello to everyone. let's keep the conversation going, keep our movement building keep your leadership going and growing. thank you so very much for being here tonight. [applause] >> each night this week at 9:00 p.m. eastern, conversations with new members of congress.

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>> president obama spoke at the easter prayer breakfast tuesday at the white house. his remarks or followed by a performance from singer amy grant. from the east room, this is 15 minutes. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president and vice president of the united states. [applause]

vice president biden: good morning, everyone, and welcome to the white house. religious leaders, laypeople, it is an honor to join you in a morning of prayer, reflection. for me, reflection is what holy week is all about. i never fail to get a renewed sense of hope and possibility when i attend mass on easter sunday. i believe pope francis got it right in his easter vigil homily when he said, "we cannot live easter without entering into mystery." to enter into mystery means the ability to wonder, to contemplate, the ability to listen to the silence.

hear the tiny whisper amid the great silence by which god speaks to us. i think that is who we are as christians, and quite frankly i think that is who we are as americans. we are constantly renewed as a people and as individuals by our ability to enter into the mystery. we live our faith when we instill in our children the ability to wonder, to contemplate, to listen to that tiny whisper amid the great silence. we live our faith when we nurture the hope and possibilities that have always defined us as a country. we live easter, and to live easter, is to live with the constant notion that we can always do better. we can always do better. that is why i am so grateful for

what everyone in this room does to transform hope into possibility, and possibility into opportunity. that is why i have been so honored to work every single day for the last six plus years with a man who encompasses that faith to his core. a man who knows what it is to enter into the mystery, with a deep and unyielding conviction that is within each of our reach to make real the promise of the ongoing miracle that is the united states of america. ladies and gentlemen, it is my great honor to introduce you to my friend, the president of the united states of america, barack obama. [applause] president obama: thank you everybody.

thank you so much. thank you. thank you, everybody. thank you so much. thank you. thank you. well, let us give thanks for this day the lord has made. good morning, everybody. welcome to the white house. is wonderful to see so many friends from all across the country. my first concern was whether you got something to eat. [laughter] sometimes prayer breakfasts are advertised -- [laughter] -- and then you get there and there is a little muffin. couple berries. and though your soul may be nourished, you leave hungry. i hope that is not happening. i want to thank everybody here for their prayers, which means so much to me and michelle particularly at a time when my daughters are starting to grow up, starting to go on college

visits. i need prayer. [laughter] i start tearing up in the middle of the day and i can't explain it. [laughter] why am i so sad? [laughter] they are leaving me. i want to thank everybody here for the wonderful work you do all across the country with your remarkable ministers. we hold this easter prayer every year to take a moment from our hectic lives for some fellowship, friendship, prayer and reflection. i know pastors here and had a very busy holy week, and so for you to travel here and take the they are leaving me. i want to thank everybody here for the wonderful work you do time to spend with us is extraordinary after what i know is difficult.

i can't say that our work during this season is comparable, but you should try dealing with thousands of people in your backyard on easter at hunts. [laughter] after that, you need quiet reflection. particularly because i had some of my nephews, six and four, in my house all weekend. i need quiet reflection. [laughter] girls are different than boys. this morning we also remember a man of god we lost this weekend. a man known and loved by many of you, in american preacher, dr. gardner c. taylor. anyone at the privilege of hearing him speak knows what power he had.

he was a civil rights hero and he was a friend of dr. king who used his spellbinding sermons to spread the gospel and open people's hearts and minds. he taught and mentored countless young ministers. so as we mourn his absence today we also take solace that he leaves a living legacy, and that he is in a better place. i am no preacher. i can't tell anything to this crowd about easter that you don't already know. i can offer a couple reflections very quickly before we begin. for me, the celebration of easter puts our earthly concerns into perspective. with humility and with all we give thanks to the extraordinary sacrifice of jesus christ our savior, reflect on the brutal pain he suffered, the scorn that he absorbed, the sins that he bore, his extraordinary gift of salvation that he gave to us.

we try as best we can to comprehend what he endured that we might receive god's light. but even as we grapple with the sheer enormity of jesus's sacrifice, on easter we can't lose sight of the fact that the story keeps on going. on sunday comes the glorious resurrection of our savior. good friday may occupy the throne for a day, dr. king once preached, but ultimately it must

give way to the triumphant beat of the drums of easter. the drums that beat the rhythm of renewal and redemption, goodness and grace, hope and love. easter is our affirmation that there are better days ahead. it is also a reminder that it is on us, the living, to make them so. through god's mercy, peter the apostle said, "we are given an inheritance that is undefiled and unfazed, kept in heaven for you." it is an inheritance that calls on us to be better, to love more deeply, to serve the least of these as an expression of christ's love your honor. the spirit we feel is in the example of his holiness, pope francis, who encourages us to seek peace, serve the marginalized, and be good stewards of god's creation. like millions of americans, i am honored to be welcoming into our country later this year. i want to quote him. he says we should strive to see

the lord and every person who is thirsty, hungry, naked. to see the lord present even in those who have lost their faith. in the imprisoned, sick, unemployed, persecuted, to see the lord and the less, body and soul, who encounter discrimination. isn't that how jesus lived? isn't that how he loved? embracing those who were different, serving the marginalized? humbling himself to the last? this is the example we are called to follow, to love him with our hearts and minds and souls, and to love all people as ourselves. as it says in the first letter of john, "let us not love with words or speech, but with actions and in truth." on easter, i do reflect on the

fact that as a christian, i am supposed to love. i have to say that sometimes when i listen to less than loving expressions by christians, i get concerned. but that is the topic for another day. [laughter] where there is injustice -- i was about to veer off. [laughter] where there is injustice, we defend. where there is disagreement, we treat each other with compassion and respect. where there are differences, we find strength in our common humanity, knowing we are all children of god.

today we celebrate the magnificent glory. i pray that we will live up to his example. i pray that i will live up to his example. i fall short so often. every day, i try to do better. i pray that we will be strengthened by his eternal love. i pray that we will be worthy of his many blessings. with that, i would like to invite amy butler to offer our opening prayer. dr. amy butler: he sounds like a preacher to me. loving and gracious god, we come here today with the gratitude for your way of love, a love that death could not destroy and a tomb could not contain. with that acknowledgment, we

confess that we struggle with the brokenness of our world and the responsibilities we bear to heal it. you came to proclaim good news to the poor, but too many of your children go to sleep with empty stomachs on cold streets. you came to give sight to the blind, and time and again, we fail to see you in the faces of our neighbors. we are easter people, but so often we live in the reality of we pray in the name of the risen christ, amen. >> amen. >> ladies and gentlemen, ms. amy grant. [applause]

amy grant: what a pleasure to be here. on my busiest days, i make sure i pray one prayer -- god, lead me today to those i need, and to those that need me. let something i do have eternal significance. ♪ i don't know if any of you guys needed me, but i sure needed to hear what you have to say. ♪ ♪

>> ♪ thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my past hey, thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path and when i feel the fright i think i've lost my way still you're theyre right beside me and nothing will i fear as long as you are near pleas,e be near me to the end

oh hey thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path hey, thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path and i will not forget your love for me and yet my heart forever is wondering so, jesus be my guide and hold me to your side i, i love you to the end

oh yeah, to the end oh ♪ [vocalizing] ♪ ♪ ♪thy word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path and a light unto my path oh youre're the light unto my path ♪ ♪ ♪ [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute,

which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> coming up on next "washington journal," the debate over u.s. immigration policy. our guest is marc rosenblum of the immigration policy institute. then ross eisenberg and michael livermore discussed the costs and benefits of federal regulations. "washington journal" is live every morning at 7:00 a.m. eastern. join the conversation on facebook and twitter. >> this sunday on q&a, senior editor for the weekly standard

andrew ferguson on his writing career, the gop residential candidates for 2016, and what voters are looking for in a candidate. >> they want somebody who looks like he stood up for them. i'm amazied at the degree to which primary voters are bo motivated by resentment. the sense of being put upon. those people really do not understand us. here is a guy who does understand us and he's going to stick it to them. that happens on both sides. hillary clinton gets her own version of that kind of thing. i do not think that is actually true 30 years ago. resentment has always been part of politics, obviously. but the degree to which it is almost exclusively the motivating factor in truly committed republicans and democrats. >> sunday night at 8:00 eastern pacific on c-span's q&a. >> kentucky senator rand paul

officially announced his candidacy for president to tuesday. he joins ted cruz as the second candidate officially in the race. from the galt house hotel, this is 35 minutes. [applause] kelly: thank you so much. >> thank you so much. great to be here in louisville today surrounded by so many people who are passionate about making our country stronger, freer, and more prosperous. together we share a vision for america. his vision of a country unshackled by crushing debt, recommitted to our founding principles and he will buy freedom and prosperity to create endless opportunities for americans from every single walk of life. helping us give voice to these ideas from the very beginning.

so first, i just want to express that rand and i are deeply grateful for your support, prayers, friendship and encouragement. it is hard to believe it has been six years since april of 2009, when coach rand paul left our youngest son's little league game to go give what he said was going to be a short message to a small group of people and downtown bowling green. [laughter] when he arrived, there were 700 sign waving tea partiers filling the park in bowling green. [applause] rand told me there was such energy and electricity in the air that night that he sensed a real change in the mood of the country and a desire for real reform. like the majority of americans

he was frustrated with washington and soon started talking to me about making a run for the u.s. senate. i will be honest, i was not exactly thrilled. [laughter] i think my first words were how can you do this to me? [laughter] but rand is very persuasive. he tried to convince me that his first line of attack was you know everyone says i have a less than 10% chance of winning the primary. [laughter] but i have heard him speak that night in fountain square park and i knew with a set and certainty and clarity that sometimes you have in life, i just knew. i looked him in the eye and said if you do this, you are going to win, i know it. [applause] rand's incredible work effort shows in how he sponsored

hundreds of bills in the senate. i think there's no doubt he's making a difference. [applause] many of his bills are bipartisan, ranging from reforms in the criminal justice system to the creation of economic freedom zones for depressed areas of our state and across the country. rand is truly a different kind of legislator, with his urgent descriptions like a one-man think tank from "politico." his 13 hour stand for the bill of rights lit spark across this country, uniting people of all ages and across the entire political spectrum. over the course of a filibuster, the outpouring of support through social media was extraordinary. stand with rand was trending

nationally and was reported that over one million tweets were sent out in support of rand. [applause] i told our kids this is what happens when one person is bold enough to take a stand. [applause] i remember how exciting it was for our family as we watched it all unfold on tv that night. our kids had our phones out reading tweets from people all over the country and even around the world. reactions that were so spontaneous and powerful that it was something we will truly never forget. i was incredibly proud of rand that night, but i always have been. this year, we will celebrate 25 years of marriage. [applause] rand has amazing energy and optimism and life with him is

always filled with bold possibility. as i told him once, you are brave and you inspire that in others. [applause] so please join me in welcoming my husband and your awesome u.s. senator, rand paul. [cheers and applause]

[chanting "president paul"] senator paul: i have a message. a message that is loud and clear and does not mince words. we have come to take our country back. [cheers and applause] we have come to take our country back from the special interest that use washington as their personal piggy bank. the special interests that are more concerned with their personal welfare than the general welfare.

the washington machine that gobbles up our freedoms and invades every cranny of our lives must be stopped. [applause] less than five years ago, i stood just down the road in my hometown of bowling green and said those same words. i wasn't supposed to win. no one thought i would. some people asked me, then why are you running? the answer is the same now as it was then -- i have a vision for america. i want to be part of a return to prosperity, a true economic boon that lists all americans, a return to a government restrained by the constitution. [applause]

a return to privacy, opportunity, liberty, too often, when republicans have one, we have squandered our victory by becoming part of the washington machine. that is not who i am. [applause] that is not why iran for office a few times is to years ago. the truth is, i love my life as a small-town doctor. every day i woke up and felt lucky to do the things i love. more importantly, i was blessed to be able to do things that made a difference in people's lives. i could not have done it without the help of my parents who are here today. [applause] with my parents help, i was able

to make it through long years of medical training to become a n eye surgeon. last summer, i was privileged to travel to guatemala on a medical mission trip. we operated on more than 200 people who were blind or nearly blind from cataracts. i was grateful to be able to put my scrubs back on and. peer into the ocular's and focus on the task at hand to take a surgical approach to fix the problem. one day, a man arrived until told me i had operated on his wife before. she could see clearly for the first time in years, and she begged him to get on the bus travel the winding roads and come back to our surgery center. he too was nearly blind from cataracts. the next day, his wife sat next to me. as i unveiled the patch from his eye, it was a powerful moment to

see them looking at each other clearly for the first time in years. to see the face they loved again. as i saw the joy in their eyes i thought this is why i became a doctor. i also remembered my grandmother who inspired me to become a doctor. we would scan her collection looking for wheat pennies, but as her vision failed, i became her eyes to inspect the mint marks on the weather worn coins. i went with my grandmother to the ophthalmologist as she received a cornea transplant and receive the news that macular degeneration had done harm to her eyes. my hope that my grandmother could see again made me want to become an eye surgeon. i have been fortunate. i have been able to enjoy the american dream.

i worry that opportunity is slipping away for our sons and daughters. i think what kind of america will our grandchildren see? it seems to me both parties and the entire political system are to blame. [applause] big government and death -- debt doubled under a republican administration. it is now tripling under barack obama's watch. president obama is on course to add more debt than all the previous presidents combined. we borrow a million dollars a minute. this vast accumulation of debt threatens not just our economy but our security. we can wake up now and do the right thing. quit spending money we don't have.

[applause] this message of liberty is for all americans. americans from all walks of life. the message of liberty opportunity, and justice is for all americans. whether you wear a suit, uniform or overalls. whether you are white, black rich or poor. in order to restore america, one thing is for certain, we cannot and must not dilute our message or give up on our principles. [applause] if we nominate a candidate who is simply democrat like, what is the point? why bother?

we need to boldly proclaim our vision for america. we need to go boldly forth under the banner of liberty that clutches constitution in one hand and the bill of rights in the other. [applause] washington is horribly broken. i fear it cannot be fixed from within. we the people must rise up and demand action. [applause] congress will never balance the budget unless you force them to do so. congress has an abysmal record with balancing anything. our only recourse is to force congress to balance the budget with a constitutional amendment. [applause]

i have been to washington, and let me tell you, there is no monopoly on knowledge there. [laughter] i ran for office because we have too many career politicians. i believe it now more than ever. we limit the president to two terms. it's about time we limit terms of congress. [applause] i want to reform washington. i want common sense rules that will break the logjam. that is why i introduced a read the bill act.

the bills are 1000 pages long, and no one reads them. they are often put on our desk with only a few hours before a vote, so i propose something truly extraordinary. let's read the bills. [applause] from the time i was a very young boy, i was taught to love and appreciate america. love of liberty pulses in my veins. not because we have beautiful mountains or white sand beaches, although we do, and not because of our abundance of resources but our great nation was founded on the extraordinary notion that government should be restrained and freedom should be maximized. [applause]

america, to me, is that beacon. we are unique among nations that our country stands for freedom. freedom nurtured our country from a rebellious group of colonies into the world's greatest nation. when tyranny threatened the world america led the nation to read the world of not these and fascist regimes. the engine of capitalism finally winning out against this sputtering incompetent engine of socialism. [applause] america and freedom are so intertwined that people are dying to come here. the freedom we fostered in america has unleashed genius and advancement like never before. yet, our great nation still needs new ideas and new answers

to old problems. from an early age i worked. i taught swimming lessons, i mowed lawns, i put roofs on houses, i painted houses. i never saw work as punishment. it always gave me a sense of who i am. [applause] self-esteem cannot be given, it must be earned. [applause] work is not punishment, work is the reward. [applause] two of my sons work minimum wage jobs while they go to college. i am proud of them is a see them realize the value of hard work. i can see their self-esteem grow as they cash their paychecks.

i have a vision for america where everyone who wants to work will have a job. [applause] many americans are being left behind. the reward of work seems beyond their grasp. under the watch of both parties, the poor seem to get poorer and the rich get richer. trillion dollar government stimulus package has only widened the income gap. politically connected cronies get taxpayer dollars by the hundreds of millions and poor families across america continue to suffer. i have a different vision, an ambitious vision, a vision that will offer opportunity to all americans, especially those who have been left behind. my plan includes economic freedom zones. to allow impoverished zones like detroit and west louisville, eastern kentucky to prosper by

leaving more money in the pockets of people who live there. [applause] can you imagine what a billion dollar stimulus could do for detroit or appalachia? i am convinced most americans want to work. i want to free up the great engine of american prosperity. i want to see millions of americans back at work. in my vision of america, we will bring back manufacturing jobs that pay well. how? we will dramatically lower the taxes on american companies that wish to bring their profits home. [applause] more than $2 trillion in american profit currently sits overseas.

in my vision for america, new highways and bridges will be built across the country, not by raising your taxes that by lowering the tax to bring the american profits home. [applause] even in this polarized congress, we have a chance of passing this. i say let's bring 2 trillion dollars home to america, let's bring it home now. [applause] liberal policies have failed our inner cities. let's just get the facts straight. they have failed our inner cities. our schools are not equal, and the poverty gap continues to widen. martin luther king spoke of two americas.

he spoke of them is to americas that existed side-by-side. in one in america, people experience the opportunity of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. in the other america, people experienced a daily ugliness. that leaves only the fatigue of despair. although i was born into the america that experiences and believes an opportunity, my trips to new york, chicago have revealed what i call an undercurrent of unease. it is time for a new way, a way predicated on justice, opportunity and freedom. [applause] those of us who have enjoyed the american dream, must break down the wall that separates us from the other america.

i want all of our children to have the same opportunity that i had. we need to stop limiting kids in poor neighborhoods to failing public schools and offer them school choice. [applause] it will not happen unless we realize we cannot borrow our way to prosperity. currently some $3 trillion comes into the u.s. treasury. couldn't the country just survive on $3 trillion? [laughter] i propose we do something extraordinary. let's just spend a what comes in. [applause] in my vision for america freedom and prosperity at home can only be achieved if we defend against enemies dead set

on attacking us. [applause] without question we must defend ourselves and american interests from our enemies. until we name the enemy, we cannot win the war. [applause] the enemy is radical islam. you cannot get around it. [applause] not only will i name the enemy i will do whatever it takes to defend america from the haters of mankind. [applause] we need a national defense robust enough to defend against all attacks, modern enough to

deter all enemies and nimble enough to defend our vital interests. but we also need foreign policy that protect american interests and encourages stability, not chaos. [applause] at home, conservatives understand government is the problem, not the solution. conservatives should not succumb to the notion that a government inept at home will somehow succeed in building nations abroad. [applause] i envision an america with the national defense unparalleled, undefeatable, and unencumbered with overseas nationbuilding. [applause]

i envision a national defense that promotes as reagan put it peace through strength. i believe in applying reagan's approach to foreign policy to the iran issue, successful negotiations and untrustworthy adversary only achieved through a position of strength. we brought iran to the table through sanctions i voted for. now we must stay strong. that is why i have cosponsored legislation that ensures any deal between the u.s. and iran must be approved by congress. [applause] not only is that good policy, it is the law.

it concerns me the iranians have a different interpretation of the agreement. they are putting out statements that say the complete opposite of what we are saying. it concerns me we may attempt or the president may attempt to unilaterally or prematurely halt sanctions. i will oppose any deal that does not end iran's nuclear ambitions and have strong unification measures. -- verification measures. [applause] i will insist the final version be brought before congress. the difference between president obama and myself, he seems to think you can negotiate from a position of weakness, yet everyone needs to realize negotiations are not inherently bad.

the trust but verify is required in any negotiation, but the goal always should be and always is peace, not war. [applause] we must realize we do not project strength by borrowing money from china to send to pakistan. [applause] let's quit building bridges in foreign countries and use the money to build bridges here at home. [applause] it angers me to see mobs burning our flags and chanting death to america in countries that

receive millions of dollars in our foreign aid. [applause] i say not one penny more to these haters of america. [applause] to defend our country, we do need to gather intelligence on the enemy. but when the intelligence director is not punished for lying under oath, how are we to trust our government agencies? [applause] more endless searches of american phones and computer searches are un-american and a threat to your civil liberties. [applause]

i say your phone records are yours. i say the phone records of law-abiding distance are none of their damn business. [applause] is this where we light up the phones? [laughter] the president great his vast dragnet by executive order. as president on day one, i will immediately end this unconstitutional surveillance. [applause] i believe we can have liberty and security, and i will not compromise your liberty for a false sense of security. not now, not ever. [applause]

we must defend ourselves, but we must never give up who we are as a people. we must never diminish the bill of rights as we fight the long war against evil. we must believe in the founding documents. we must protect economic and personal liberty again. america has much greatness left in her. we are still exceptional and a beacon for the world. we will thrive when we believe in ourselves again. i see an america strong enough to serve foreign aggression, yet wise enough to avoid unnecessary intervention. [applause] i see an america where criminal justice is applied equally, and any law that disproportionally incarcerates people of color is repealed. [applause]

i see an america with a restrained irs that cannot target, cannot harass american citizens for their political or religious beliefs. [applause] i see our big cities once again shining with creativity and ingenuity, with american companies offering american jobs. with your help, this message will ring from coast to coast. a message of liberty, justice, and personal responsibility. today begins the journey to take america back. [applause]

to rescue of the great country now adrift, join me as together we seek a new vision for america. today i announce with god's help, with the help of liberty lovers everywhere, that i am putting myself forward as a candidate for president of the united states. [cheers and applause]

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ex-following the announcement, senator up all begins a four-day campaign tour with jeff to i will, new hampshire, south carolina, and about a. states known to hold the earliest primaries and caucuses. texas senator ted cruz who announced last month released a message welcoming center paul to the race. it read in part --

his entry into the race will no doubt raise the bar of competition and ensure that the gop nominee is equipped to beat hillary clinton and to take back the white house for republicans in 2016. dnc chair, debbie wasserman schultz said "rand paul says he wants to enlace the american dream but the only thing a paul presidency unleashes is a massive move backwards to failed policies and narrowminded extremism." >> each night this week, at 9 p.m. eastern, conversations with new members of congress. >> i tried to stay disciplined in my message. and a football sense, i understand that i represent everyone in montana. i represent not only a republican side, i represent the

democrat side, the independent side, the tea party side, the union side, i represent everyone in montana. i think if we take that value set forward. congress represents america. the values and the deeds of your district. the purpose is to make america better. >> five newest neighbors of congress talk about their careers and personal lives and share insight on how things work on capitol hill. join us for all of their conversations each night at 9:00 eastern on c-span. >> this sunday on "q&a" senior editor for the weekly standard on his writing career, the gop presidential candidates, and what voters are looking for in a candidate. >> they want somebody who looks like ps did up for them. i am amazed at the degree to

which primary voters on both sides are motivated by resentment. the sense of being put upon. those people do not understand us. here is a guy who does understand us and he will stick it to them. that happens on both sides hillary clinton will not give her version of that kind of thing. i do not think that was true 30 years ago. resentment has always been part of politics, but the degree to what -- to it being the most -- the exclusive factor. >> sunday night, on c-span's q&a. >> during this month, c-span is pleased to present the winning entries in this year's studentcam documentary contest. it is c-span's annual

competition that encourages middle and high school students to think critically about issues that affect the nation. students were asked to create their documentaries based on the themes of the three branches and you, to demonstrate how a policy, law, or action by one of the three branches of government has affected them or their community. joshua hamilton tyler staby connor krohn, are one of our second prize winners. their documented focus on japanese interment during world war ii. ♪ >> we bring you a special news bulletin. japanese have it packed -- have attacked pearl harbor by air. >> the japanese have attacked pearl harbor hawaii from the air. >> hostilities would mean that the president would ask congress for a declaration of war. ♪

>> what this news reporter did not know that the u.s. would not declare war on the u.s. power, but on their u.s. citizens. pearl harbor was bombed a mere two months ago and the u.s. government has been deciding how to appropriately respond to the issue in east. over the last two months japanese americans have felt the effects of the attacks in hawaii. animosity towards japanese-americans is increasing and president equity residential executive -- issued an executive order, deporting japanese americans to internment caps on across the united states. >> that was the most difficult part. the people raised in the united states thought they were american citizens. then to be told that we cannot trust you you have done nothing wrong, but just in case, we will put you in concentration caps. >> the government had to mines

-- two minds. the thought was -- if we don't run them all up, they will send messages back to japan. most of the civilian population, except on the east coast were ambivalent about the whole thing. >> my usual friends were not talking to me. i went down the wrong hallway and said, i wonder what is wrong with me. the students who walked with me were suspect. they were called j ap-lovers.

>> conditions in the caps on decent. these spaces are often cramped, and exposed to the elements. bathhouses provide no privacy and are often horribly unsanitary. >> i was five years old when my family was sent away from our home. we were put into a concentration camp. >> this is where japanese-americans were incarcerated for the remainder of world war ii. >> we had 14 derek's -- barrack s. they passed out bags -- we found out they were body bags for our mattress. they dumped straw in the middle of each camp, each block.

and we filled our own mattress. >> mostly young people and old people got very sick. the death rate in those camps were very high. these were military style accommodations. a little about half the size was what they called a latrine, or the bathroom. there were 16 toilets, and they were eight, back to back. 27 inches apart. if you set like this you would touch the person next to you. no doors. no stalls. >> i had a personal experience. i have two brothers in the service. i have a brother who was shot

down in okinawa. never survived. my mother always blamed all of the japanese. she despised them, because they took her son. about 30 years later, we were down at the beach and my mother -- i felt her very comfortable and i said, what is wrong?" and she said, he might be washed up on the beach, and i said do you need to go back to sunnyvale, and she said yes. it hit her in a different way than it had a lot of people. >> i remember my mother saying she could not understand why we americans were sent away. we had done nothing. there was never any proof, any indication that a

japanese-american, or even a japanese immigrant like my grandparents had participated in any espionage. my father and mother had to be very careful, even where they stopped to get gas, where they stop at grocery stores and in some cases they were not allowed in. >> the government is a great propaganda machine. when i was in high school, small high school, three floors, when you went upstairs to turn right or left and there was a wall. on each of those walls was a japanese with a bayonet. and a baby. that was the kind of propaganda. they caricatured the japanese so they appeared more like simians than humans. remember that culturally, they

were pretty much the same. they came here as small children. for all intents and purposes they were americans. west even after the japanese were returned home, they felt the effects of the executive order and would feel it for generations to come. >> that prejudice is there. deep down. how do we change things? >> to watch all of the winning videos and learn more about the competition, though do c-span.org and click on student cam. tell us what the -- tell us what you think about the issue on facebook and twitter. >> the born affairs ministers is that a discussion for combating violent extremism. also at 10:00, a conversation with customs and border

protection commissioner gil curly caskey. he will discuss his agency's mission and future initiatives. for combating terrorism, border security and trade issues. once that live on c-span3. -- watch that live on c-span3. >> live today on c-span, "washington journal" is next at 10 a.m. eastern, the national council on u.s., arab relation post a discussion on the iran nuclear negotiations. at 2 p.m., irs commissioner john cost can and has acted it -- any tax advocates speak at the brooks -- at the brookings institution. coming up in 45 minutes, a look at the debate over u.s. immigration policy. our guest is mark rosenblum, deputy director of the immigration always institute.

at a: 30 a.m., ross eisenberg of the national association of manufacturers and michael livermore, associate pastor at the university of virginia law school discuss the costs and benefits of federal regulations. ♪ ♪ host: good morning. here are some morning headlines. usa today that the government can't record of telephone calls newly a decade before the september 11 attack. they amassed laws of all telephone calls in the united state in 116 countries eared the u.s. is getting more involved in the situation in yemen expediting delivery of