tv Key Capitol Hill Hearings CSPAN April 14, 2015 9:00pm-11:01pm EDT
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that is what we are going to be debating over the next four or five months, the role that the iaea can play in avoiding a dramatic >> in the middle east that we have avoided for 70 years. it will be critical for the senate, the house to be able to to determine the adequacy of the inspections. the funding, made available to ensure that the iaea can be the policeman, the protector against the compromise of civilian nuclear program, that in the wrong hands and turned into a nuclear bomb factory. that is what this is about. that is why the israelis are looking at this so closely. it is why the saudis egyptians
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the turks, are all looking at this issue so closely. if we get it wrong, it will lead to the escalation that we have of waited. over all of these decades. so, this is a big moment and i think this committee has handled the issue responsibly. and i think to a certain extent just listening to expert opinion, i think there is a surprise that people have had with regard to the specificity in the agreement, with senator kerry, and secretary moneys, and president obama have brought back to america. it should give us hope that an agreement can be reached that come pushes all goals. and it is appropriate for this committee, the senate, to advise and consent. to have a role in conducting the hearings and hearing the
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evidence and making the decision, bit -- because a lot of the rest of the history of the century will actually ride on how this agreement is in fact written, and enforced. so, i keep coming back to thanking you for the way in which you are conducting a, it is the appropriate role for this committee and the senate. i cannot praise senator kane and you mr. chairman for the incredible work you have done. the yield. senator corker: thank you. i would entertain a motion for a rollcall vote. >> mr. chairman, i would like to make a comment. senator corker: actually, i think you can do that now. thank you for your involvement
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in this and making this bill better. >> i want to thank chairman corker and senator cardin. for many of you, as you remember, i have worked for hostages in iran in 1979. when we negotiated to release those people, at the time it was 52 living people, we negotiated away so that they could get competition from the iranian government. there is a bill i offered as an amendment for reasons i understand, that will allow us to collect, the -- money available to compensate each one of those remaining 44 citizen still alive today. the chairman and ranking member asked me to withdraw the amendment because it is not appropriate given the nature of the framework of the deal and i agree with that, but you are both gracious enough to include it in the manager's amendment and i appreciate that and i appreciate your willingness, and
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time in the future, to allow that legislation to come before the committee. we go those americans everything, they were captured, torture, for 100 44 days they are the only civilians kept in captivity that never got compensation from their captors. i want to see to it that that happens. i want to thank the chairman and ranking members for everything i have done. i withdraw my other amendment. senator corker: thank you and thank you for your support for these families and everything may have gone through. is there any member that would like to offer an amendment to the manager's package. >> i would like to call up an amendment. this restores language from the underlying base built on the terrorism certification. it is simple and straightforward, reestablishing the requirement that the president certified iran has not directly supported or carried out in active terrorism against the united states or the -- or a
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united states person anywhere in the world. this is a bill that had significant bipartisan support bipartisan cosponsorship, and iran has tended designated by the u.s. as a state sponsor of terrorism since 1984. i think it is critical for the president to make this certification for the american people, we are serious about our national security and the think it is important that the committee clearly state that we will not hillary -- tolerate terrorism against our nation. senator corker: i want to thank the senator for the way he has conducted himself and raising this issue. i want the audience to know, this was a request by senator mark -- senator menendez. it is difficult for me to understand why certification like this would not be easily made candidly. we have had more in this bill on terrorism than we ever had before. iran attempted terrorist acts against u.s., and they would
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most likely have missiles, i don't know why this could not be agreed to, but it was true that the administration did not want to have other issues not relevant to the nuclear deal in this. i have agreed to that and while i support your amendment and at the base bill as it was before i think you should know that i will oppose it and i think that will create problems for the balance that we have today. and now the ranking member. >> thank you mr. chairman, let me ask plane. i agree with the chairman, the sponsorship of this is well and tend it. we want to see iran and its terrorism in many regions, that is troubling to world stability. it is a major continuing problem. i agree completely with the intent of this amendment. i disagree with the chairman though about the impact of this amendment.
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this amendment would have the unintended consequence of i think, defeating possibilities for diplomacy, let me ask my wife. the president would not be able to make a certification, because he could not make this a vacation, there would be annexed the guided her -- process for sections against iran. therefore, it would be contrary to what is being negotiated today in regards to the nuclear proliferation related to what they will do to give up nuclear weapons in regards to sanctions, because they violated their relief relation -- proliferation obligations. there are separate sanctions and regards to terrorism, missiles and human rights. and the manager's amendment makes it clear that nothing in the negotiations affect those sanctioned regimes. we have that told in place, but is not the sanctions imposed in regards to the nuclear proliferation discussion.
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therefore the, this became part of the bill, it would very likely be used as a reason to say that diplomacy cannot work the president cannot make certifications, cannot give the relief that it is being negotiated and the u.s. would be blamed for the negotiations, putting iran in a stronger position internationally banned they are today. i know that is not the intent, but i think that is the consequences. let me though, point out. senator menendez in the original bill included very strong report language on the terrorist activities of iran that must be submitted to congress on a periodic basis. that language is not only included in the manager's amendment, but strengthened in it the manager's amendment. we have also included other language that says that iran -- the president must submit all actions including an
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international forum being taken by the u.s., to condemn acts being taken by iran in the event of terrorist acts against the u.s. and the safety of american citizens as a result of iranian actions reported under this paragraph and an additional paragraph was added, and assessment of internationally recognized human rights changed, decreased, as compared to prior 180 day. . this report is due every six months. it is a very strong provision in regards to keeping congress informed as to these types of activities. of course, we always have the right to take action. i would urge my colleagues to recognize the certification provision could very well compromise the ability of the u.s. to continue negotiations whereas this manager's amendment is very strong in the terrorism issues. senator corker: yes, senator
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menendez. senator menendez: i have no doubt that iran is a major state of terrorism. that israel. having said that, my reason for seeking to include it was concerned that non-nuclear sanctions would be waived as it relates to terrorism and other elements. in view of the language that makes it clear that none of those other sanctions will be waived as a result of any nuclear deal, i certainly support the bill as it presently stands and i will continue to pursue iran as it relates to state-sponsored terrorism and other venues, but i think it is important having that clear now, that that is not going to be waived under any circumstances to have this type of process for the senate to review any potential deals at the end of
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the day, that i don't think that this is an impediment to our goals of having a due process and making sure iran continues to suffer consequences for being state-sponsored terrorism. senator corker: i would -- >> we know that iran has targeted and killed americans, i want to point out, a week ago in the wall street journal, there were statements with the recent addition of battlefield that were occupied in the middle east waterways, arch rival saudi arabia and american allies and unless local restraints is linked to an agreement freeing iran from sanctions, empowering iran and their tendencies, it -- efforts, excuse me, the linkages between -- traditional allies will conclude that the u.s. has traded corporation for iran --
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it is important that we have this in here. senator corker: thank you, very much. i have spent time talking to secretary kissinger, we have that ability and i could not agree more with the comments that were in that, that is why the language that senator menendez has mentioned clears that up and absolutely makes it known that we in no way, no way as part of the agreement that we will discuss later if we passed the legislation, in a way will sanctions be removed. i will add to the extent that we have the information come up will be much more available to us from an intelligence standpoint, as to what happens. we have the tool of all of the sanctions that we are talking about to add to that. but i know the senator would like to have a vote, if there is no objection then do you want to speak to it anymore? let's have a rollcall vote. >> i.
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>> what is the report? >> -- nine -- senator corker: thank you and i appreciate your ability to raise the issue. it is my understanding that if there are no other amendment are there any other amendments? i think we have had a motion and a second to move to the manager's package which we will now vote on and i would, if the clerk will please call role. >> i. >> i. >> i. >> i. >> i. >> i. >> i. >> i.
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>> i. >> i. >> i. >> i. >> i. >> i. i. >> i. >> clerk will report. ayes are 19, nays are zero. senator corker: any other amendments to the basic legislation in the manager's package? is there a motion that we move ahead with approving the bill as amended by the manager's package? it has been moved and seconded if the clerk would make the motion to approve the iran
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>> senator bob corker, the chairman of the relations committee, thank you for being here. senator corker: thank you for having me. >> this was a markup we thought would go a lot longer, why did it end already? senator corker: this was a victory for the american people. unanimous -- unanimously, we passed a bill saying that all's -- all details would be passed to congress, to give congress if they disapprove of what is happening, the right to pass a resolution of disapproval that would stop the sanctions and then it will continue to play a role to make sure that they
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comply. most people worry that iran would cheat on a deal, i think that is said by both sides of the aisle, including the president in some cases. as was a great victory. the american people do need people on their behalf looking at the details, i want to see a strong negotiated agreement, that is the best outcome for our citizens. i do think that congress playing this role on behalf of the people to make sure that iran is accountable, to make sure that we have full transparency and that this is something that is enforceable on behalf of the american people, that is an important thing. what changed -- >> what changed the president's mind? senator corker: earlier, john kerry was pushing against this legislation. i think they realized by about 12:30 p.m., that this train was running in front of them and would pass overwhelmingly. it was going to be way beyond a
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vetoproof majority so at 1:00 p.m. they sent the chief of staff over to tell people that they would release the hold. it took congress and a bipartisan way to show strength on this issue and they realized it was a losing proposition for them and they came over and lifted their hold. >> did anything change with the new ranking democrat? senator corker: bob menendez at was a star, he has been very constructive on these issues. some things change for circumstances, been -- ben cardin stepped in where bob left off and he did an outstanding job. it was seamless and it worked the way things should work and i am proud of the united states senate today. >> we are speaking with bob corker, did congress get what is
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looking for in this administration? senator corker: this is exactly what we had proposed, and it is that the president must submit every detail including classified annexes that the public will never have access to, allow us to sit there and let the clock start on us, let us review after we have all the materials, for us to have a process where if we disapprove we have the right to do that. it is a hurdle, a high hurdle, i understand. but we want to be involved and make sure that the president can certify coming he or she, they can certify that iran is living within the deal, if one is consummated. this is exactly what the process has always been and i am glad senator cardin and menendez and mccain helped work it through the way they did and i want to say, lindsey graham in the
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beginning was with us, he was not on the committee, but he was making sure this happen. >> it passed unanimously, did that surprise you? senator corker: i knew we would have a strong vote and i knew it would give a strong signal to the white house that their veto was going to be useless. it -- there probably were a couple members who once they knew the veto would be lifted, they would -- they knew it would be overwhelming. >> you do not trust iran? senator corker: let me say one more time, the best solution for americans and the world is a strong negotiated agreement with iran. iran has proven that with every single agreement we have had that they have not lived up to it, even today in the interim agreement there are 12 pieces of information that the aiaea is
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seeking -- they have proven to be difficult, i think everyone involved in the negotiations on behalf of america understands the group of people that certainly have not lived up to prior obligations, so i think there is a lot of distrust on both sides. they distrust us also. i think that is evident. i hope we will end up with a great agreement, very strong, that demonstrates the diplomacy can prevail. at the same time, we need to be wary and we need to understand all details and know that this is something that is enforceable and will keep iran from getting a nuclear weapon. >> it hasn't been -- it has been a busy day, senator bob corker thank you for being with us. senator corker: thank you. >> coming up, days after announcing candidacy for presidency, hillary clinton holds her first campaign event
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in iowa. after that, the house oversight committee investigates charges that dea agents attended overseas sex parties, thrown by drug cartels. >> on the next washington journal, congressman jim mcdermott of washington, the lead democrat on the subcommittee of health discusses the repeal of the medicare payment formula, and challenges to the health care law. then congressman james ray nacion of ohio talks tax legislation, including a tax overhaul. and then a spotlight on magazines features -- of time magazine on his reporting of an unknown armed blackman -- unarmed black man in south carolina and communities of color.
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washington journal is live every morning at seven clock a.m. eastern. you can join the conversation is your calls and comments on facebook and twitter. >> its tax day tomorrow and john kos can then -- koskinen testifies on c-span3. >> this weekend the c-span cities tour has partnered with comcast to learn about saint augustine, florida. >> -- may or may not have been searching for the found of youth. a lot of people said that he was looking for additional property for the king of spain and colonization goals, which is a very decidedly true. we do know that he came ashore
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after searching for a good harbor, took on water and would -- wood. this area is one of the few freshwater springs. it is also the location of the 15 65 first settlement of saint augustine, 42 years before the settlement of jamestown was founded and 55 years for the pilgrims landed on plymouth rock. >> the hotel was built by henry morrison. -- henry morrison flagler. he is very little known outside of the state of florida, but he was one of the wealthiest men in america. this actually had been a cofounder of standard oil company, with john d rockefeller. he was a man who always wanted to undertake a great enterprise and as it turned out, florida
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was it. he realized that he needed to own the railroad between jacksonville and say augustine in order to ensure that guests could hit to his hotel conveniently. so clearly the dream was beginning to grow. he was a man that had big dreams , he was a visionary. >> watch all of our events from say augustine, saturday at noon eastern on book tv and sunday afternoon at 2:00, on c-span3. >> during this month, c-span is pleased to present winning entries from a documentary competition. student cam is the annual competition that encourages middle and high school students to think critically about issues that affect the nation. students were asked to create documentaries based on themes, the three branches and you. to demonstrate how a policy,
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action, or law by one of the three branches of government has affected them or their community. giuliana italy on oh -- tijuana and jan oh, fear of thought, and martha flores were winners. >> you have a chance to meet people from all walks of life, but those voices you needed to hear the most are hiding in the shadows. what immigration means to us and the community, in order to understand the situation, we went to tucson, arizona to learn about the effects of president barack obama's immigration action. >> if you live in america for more than five years, children that are legal residents, if you register as a criminal background check and are reasonable -- ready to pay
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taxes, you can state in the country temporarily without fear of deportation. you can come out of the shadows and get right with the law. >> to support families, many men migrate to the united states for work come up -- work, and often take lower wage jobs. they are trying to improve lives of themselves and children. [speaking spanish] >> in response to the president's address many rallied together for a press conference. >> he said -- this is a system that has made felons, not felonies.
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allegedly killed by a border patrol agent in 2012. as of now, there is an ongoing investigation. his death is an example of what border communities face. they try to find alternative paths, the border communities are stuck with what is left behind. >> antonio had been throwing rocks, with his back turned to border control, the border control opened fire on him and killed him. >> waiting in line to enter the united states has taken its toll on many people attempting to enter the country. in return, the search for ways to immediately travel across in order to find work. >> action by the president yesterday only encouraged more people to come here illegally. and putting their lives at risk. we saw the humanitarian crisis at the border last summer, how horrific it was. next summer, it could be worse. >> and made it clear to me how
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how much people's lives are impacted by what we do in the u.s. and the policies that we have. i went out as a journalist to report on these camps, it was at the fourth of july in 2004, i just finished college and we drove out and came across two guys from pueblo who were sitting on the side of the road. it was the first time i had been in the desert and carry people who were on that journey. and seeing that look of extraction and also cashed exhaustion and -- exhaustion and they were so tired, they thought they would be able to make it. how sad and upset they were, they seemed to show -- they asked us to call border control, which i think was difficult. we had to do it.
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and then watch them get picked up and taken away. >> even though some actions by the u.s. have negative outcomes, others have positive results for young people and their families. >> 2010 came up and it was when the last time the -- act was voted on. it pushed others to realize that we can let other people choose or determine our lives for us. we found out that parents of citizens of children were able to qualify. another permit would be extended to three years instead of two years. as we failed these requirements, we were leaving behind people. for .4 million would benefit from this. 4.4 million would benefit from this. that leaves more people wondering what would happen to them. there are still things that need to be in progress, that need to
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be changed for the immigration system. we talk about getting in line getting into the nation the right way, but a lot of us do it the right way and a lot of us have been in line. >> within our community, the metropolitan arts institute there is a dreamer ready to move forward with her life since president obama's executive action. we can now welcome this girl who comes out of the shadows. >> i have been affected by the change, allowing me to have access to more colleges, i have more interests. i found a job. i have more support with it, because there are a lot of people out there who really want to get somewhere some of the we don't have -- get somewhere, but we do not have the opportunity. >> these actions have you worked
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on for many years. the house has made a decision to dismantle this executive action and it is now moving to the senate. the final result is unknown, but families are affected by this conflict issue. >> to watch all of the winning videos and learn more about this competition, go to c-span.org and click on student cam. tell us what you think about the issues these students addressed in their documentaries. >> after announcing her 2016 bit of for presidency, hillary clinton traveled to iowa on tuesday for a first official campaign event. she participated in an education roundtable with students and educators at kirkwood community college in monticello. this is just over one hour. >> we will have a roundtable, i thought we would introduce ourselves and tell us where you
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are from and all that stuff. andrew, let's start with you. and you -- andrew: hi, i have been taking classes here for three years now. i am going to the tech academy. i will graduate in may, then i will head to an apple is the naval academy to major in engineering. hillary clinton: good luck. erin: my name is aaron -- and i am a junior. started taking classes my sophomore year at kirkwood, an online class. i am currently in arts and sciences. and by the time i graduate, i will have 48 credit hours done. hillary clinton: wow, that is
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great. ok. diane: my name is diana and i have spent the last 21 years as a high school teacher. six of those years part-time as an adjunct instructor. hillary clinton: -- >> i have been a teacher. welcome to monticello. hillary clinton: thank you. drew: im through and i am currently taking biotech classes here. i have had a great time in this college experience. i plan to go on to do something
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with engineering. hillary clinton: great, good. >> ima nontraditional college student. i am taking administration and management and i am also doing other programs at kirkwood. hillary clinton: i want to thank you for having me here. at the college and i just had a terrific for of -- tour of the advanced manufacturing laboratory and talked with the instructor, the students, all former high school students who are doing work like what you described, the great opportunity to mix your high school years with college learning and college credits. that is as you move forward. and i am really pleased to be at
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a community college that is so visionary and effective in trying to serve as a bridge for people who are nontraditional, but coming back to add to their skills, all the way to high school students who are taking advantage of the opportunity and the cooperation between the college and the high school. it is something i want to see more of. this is a real model for how we can provide more continuous learning, starting in high school, but going as far as necessary. -- to help prepare young people, and all people, for the economy that is raising us. for we get started, i want to hear from each of you more information about what you see as the challenges that you face in your education, but the students and as educators. and the opportunities that you hope to be able to take advantage of.
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i want to tell you a little bit about why i am here. i think we all know that americans have come back from some tough economic times. and our country is much better off, because american families have basically done whatever it took to make it work. but i think it is fair to say that as you look across the country, the deck is still stacked in favor of those already at the top. and there is something wrong with that. there's something wrong with -- when ceos make 300 times more than a typical worker. what american workers keep getting more productive, as i just saw and it is a very possible because of education and skilled training, but that productivity is not matched in other paychecks. and there is something wrong when hedge fund managers pay
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lower tax rates than nurses or the truckers and that i saw on i-80 as it was driving here in the last few days. and there is something wrong when students and families though deeply into debt to be able to get the education and skills they need in order to make the best of their own lives. and i look at the figures, the average iowa graduate from a four-year college comes out with nearly $30,000 in debt. and that is the ninth highest debt load in the country. and people are struggling on that. i met earlier today with a young student who is piecing together work loans, knowing full well that he is going to come out owing a lot of money. so, we have to figure out in this country how to get back on the right track.
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and i'm running for president because i think that america and its families need a champion. i want to be that champion. i want to stand up and fight for people so that they cannot just get i come in but get ahead and they can stay ahead. a lot of people in the last few days have asked me, why do you want to do this and what motivates you i've thought about it and the short answer is, i have been fighting for children and families my entire adult life, probably because of my mother's example. she had a difficult childhood, was mistreated, neglected, but she never gave up. she was basically on her own from the age of 14 and she kept going. and my father, who was a small man and believed you had to work hard to make your way into whatever you have to do to be successful, and provided a good
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living for our family. then i was thinking to about the lessons i learned from my church. you are supposed to get back. you are supposed to do what you can to help others. and that is what i try to do. we will have more time to talk about that as we go forward when i went to law school and -- i worked for the children's defense fund, we went door-to-door, this is back in the 1970's, when kids with disabilities were basically shut out of schools and thanks to your great former senator that is no longer the case. but i was knocking on doors saying, is there anybody school aid not in school? and finding blind kids, deaf kids, kids in wheelchairs and i was able to work to try to improve education there and get more kids chances who really deserved them.
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and as first lady, fighting for health care reform, until we got health care insurance for kids. and as senator, dealing with the problems that face new york after 9/11 and trying to help people get whatever they needed, the victims'families and first responders. it was an incredible honor to do that. and as secretary of state standing up for our country. when i look at where we are as a country, i am so absolutely convinced that there isn't anybody anywhere that can outcompete us, who has that are values, he could do more to provide more people the chance to live up to their own god-given potential. we cannot take that for granted. so, i want to be the champion who goes to bat for americans in for big areas -- 4 big fight
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big areas and those who do not agree with me, we need to rebuild the economy of tomorrow, not yesterday. we need to strengthen families and communities, that is where it starts. we need to fix dysfunctional political systems and it unaccountable money out of it even if it takes a constitutional amendment. and we need to protect our country from threats that we see and the ones on the horizon. so, i am here to begin a conversation about how we do that. and to hear from people about what is on your mind, with the challenges ucr and i will work hard to meet as many people i will be rolling out ideas and policies about what i think will work, but i want it to be informed by what is actually working. and i want to build on what has worked, going forward.
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and to stand up against those who have a different vision of our country, a different one man i grew up with and a different one than i think what is best for everybody. what i would love to do is ask a few questions and hear from folks about their experiences and try to learn what you think would be ways of helping your young people get the kind of education they need, without having the personal bank be broken and put you and your family at financial risk. if i could start with you, you are going to the naval academy? that is a great opportunity. it is also one of the few higher education of such high quality that is free. the young men and women recruited into our military academies are given just a world-class education. can you may be described a little bit more about what you
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learned in the biotech classes you took and how you think that has helped you with taking this next step? >> in a biotech, we had all the computers in the lab, they said he will find this here, take everything of the computer and for back. it was very hands-on, it wasn't sitting behind a computer, learning how to go through this and that. reading from a lab look, taking notes, it was physically doing what you would do in the infotech field. we do a lot with the tech field because that is what a lot of the kids going into the academy look for, something with i.t., software design. it is something i would do, if i got a career in that field. and with biotech, i will
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probably not do too much with biology, but i took a because of the engineering background and -- anytime we do experiments, we write down these reactions, you take notes on everything that changes, any shape or form, and then it prepares me for the kind of engineering work, like being in a lab situation. it is the kind of thing i will see. and while there is a big difference between community college and public, there is no drop-off in quality. i am getting the kind of skills i would get in will get at the academy. hillary clinton: you sound like you will be well prepared for a rigorous curriculum that will
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demand a lot of you. i have friends who are either former or current midshipman and i know how challenging the study is. if you feel like this has given you the hands on experience that you can transfer. jason, explain the idea about how the high schools coordinate with the community colleges, because part of the reason i am here is because this is a role model, this is not by accident that i ended up at kirkwood because we looked for those models. lifelong learning, connecting us , the high school with community colleges, other programs, give me a sense of your experience with that? >> well, if you have a couple of hours. the partnership, the way it works, kirkland and their approach, they are part of a
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group, there are eight schools. our particular school is one of the smallest maybe 45 kids in the graduating class. the biggest ones, maybe monticello, they have a hundred. when you look at it, we each look at each other like, had we have a multimillion dollar manufacturing lab in our school, you can do it. where do we send them. we can't put them in a car and drive there. what they did is they started having a conversation, at the end of the date, the kirkwood partnerships with the schools, we commit to sending -- and we work collaboratively, we share information about kids, and we talk about education, i would love to offer as many things in our school as we possibly can.
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i don't have all the resources to add 15 new teachers and 15 new programs. collectively though, we can. this is a perfect model. our kids, at the of the day the reason is, because it gives our kids more options and it is stuff -- you have a four-year career does rigorous course works that can get them ready and a segue for college, you are in college, you are not. he can have those conversations with parents, i went to this and i feel prepared and ready. throw them out there. and the other side of it is, we have audio tech, manufacturing they are directed toward a career. and conversations we have, the getty focus of what they want to do and we help them get it. now they have the resources to do that. h>> and confidence. >> and we held in still that.
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-- help instill that. they feel confident and they are certified, now i want to go on and be a nurse, now i want to do this in the factory, and they know i am good, i can get a job. it is great. hillary clinton: so if you are enrolled in a local high school, it is free? >> right, and we are supported it is posted in very -- post secondary. it is great to see these kids get these jobs, when they are here they are helping each other and they bring each other to another level. they are ready to excel and to keep going. i love that these kids are around that. and every once in a while --
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and collectively we will have all kids like that. the kids get to know each other they learn from each other, not just in their education, but they know what it is like to be in college. they meet kids from other schools. hillary clinton: i called and said i wanted to go home, i called collect in those days. >> the thing that is great, we are their counselors. and their principles are there to be the middlemen. i -- the court was that for me i was off to college and i did have -- don't looking like that. they learn how to manage time. with us helping, some of them get a career out of this. it is not just going off to college, they go off and get a job. i really think that across the united states, in rural areas, when you're trying to increase
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that without being able to hire teachers extra physics labs, this is a model for that. hillary clinton: i really believe that. true, tell me about your experience, you are still in high school. you still have another year. how did you end up here, did you hear about it, did a counselor tell you about it? >> we had meetings, they come back and share about it. kirkwood seemed fun, so many different classes, you get the college feel. it is different from owing to high school. being able to come here and participate in all this stuff, i am in of the audio tech academy. so we get to do everything hands on. the first day of class, we are out working on cars. we are experiencing everything. it is great to get out and do stuff and not just learned about it for weeks on end and then
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maybe go good to do some of the stuff. so, it is great. hillary clinton: is it your experience working on auto, you have to learn a lot of math computers, they were talking to me about with the computerized numeric control trying to really use their math skills and upgrade them so that they can deal with all of the computerization? >> yes, cars are controlled with computers now, we do a ton of work with computers. that is valuable to know. in order to be certified, going on into the motor field -- >> that is the instructor right there. >> -- hillary clolinton: how long have you been working here? >> six years. hillary clinton: that is great.
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i like this model, because young people who might be in high school, if they can get hands on and feel like they are doing something they love, that motivates them to learn the math, to learn the composition learn the skills that will help them. what i have seen happen in other places >>. >> this is for everybody's benefit, this was started six years ago. we have had great success with this, the partnerships we have formed with the steel people, this -- especially in this area, but throughout the whole county service area. this is the first one that has proven successful that we actually went out for a bond issue and asked for the area to approve dollars to build more of these. this is the first one, the second one is in cedar rapids, the third in washington, iowa. and the fourth one will be the
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first in the nation where community college told on a four-year campus. this is a great partnership. last year, this year, we will serve over 500,000 high schoolers. you have to think about those high schoolers. some of them are first generation. they get a chance, just like these folks, to experience something different than high school. maybe at a different level. does that is what we are -- because that is what we are about, and opportunity system. not only for our college age students, but also for k-12 partners and they have widely supported us. not only do they come to our centers, but we also send our faculty into high schools. so they get what is called dual credit, last year alone, if you talk about, if you come to kirkland -- kirkwood, those
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parents will say $2.5 million in tuition. if they come to kirkwood. if they went to iowa, the tuition is about twice as high triple if you go private. so like she has, that will lower the student debt. it really gives them the experience. one of the best pictures we have for here, all of the students, they all come just in a football uniforms and volleyball uniforms and golf and cheerleading and everything, we take a picture. so that night, they go compete on the field, but here they learn together. it is a partnership. and i think they really have grown and had an opportunity to interact. another thing that we really think sets us apart, a lot of our cte courses are nationally certified.
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when they leave they will have a nim certificate in welding. he will go out and make $40,000 his first year out of high school. this land was donated by a business person, so we get a lot of community support. clinton: but it is sort of reinforcing. you get the community support because he some -- because you provide the services and people, parents, business come of members of the community and see the results. -- can see the results. we have to rebuild that connection again because in too many places there has been a lack of appreciation and the importance of investing in education at all levels. being creative about how to
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provide more opportunities. i wanted to ask you when you started taking courses here. >> i started in my sophomore year, it was an online course. and then i actually started taking arts and sciences one through kirkwood academy. but actually take the main course at the high school but i get dual credit. i get high school english credit and college credit. clinton: so you will have 48 college credits when you graduate from high school? >> yes, i am taking an online class right now and a course out here in the summer, and i also took one last summer. clinton: are there many other students doing what you are doing among your friends are classmates? >> there are a lot of my classmates better in the kirkwood academy with me, but
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there are not a lot of people that will do summer courses on top of that and also online classes because we started where we can take kirkwood and an online kirkwood class. clinton: and you are still doing your high school courses or the substitute? >> the english credit is kind of different. it is the composition one and two class which gives you college credit and high school english credit. usually when you take a kirkwood class you get an elective credit . so you would have to take your english classes at the high school. clinton: so what is next for you with all these credits? >> i plan on going to mount mercy after this and i think i am going to major in business but i will have like two years done and i will almost have an
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associates degree. clinton: that's terrific. so then you will only have to pay for two years of a four-year college. >> the partnership is really thriving and there are a lot of opportunities. clinton: you are a walking advertisement. on how important this option is. diane, as an instructor, how do you see the benefits of these kinds of blended programs and what issues have you seen a rise. --seen arise? and how would you make them better? >> i think the best thing that i see is, although i understand the premise of no child left behind, i do feel as if by focusing so much on making sure
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that everyone is proficient, we sometimes don't stretch the higher achievers. and that is where kirkwood has been fantastic. it has offered programs for students like ellen who excel in high school in need an extra challenge. sometimes it is not just a challenge in english or speech, but in the cte areas. i think that has been a gap that this program has helped fill. clinton: that is a really important point because i have been involved in education reform for a long time, not in recent years in an active way but certainly as a very interested observer, and i do agree with you that we have to do more to open up our education system so that we are meeting individual students where they are and where they could be with the right motivation, the different opportunities for
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learning, the hands-on for example. i think we do have to have accountability measures but not at the expense of the individualized learning that needs to go on. and so how we do that in this gigantic country of ours. you can see how it can work on a school by school basis and the partnerships between monticello and kirkwood, and i am looking for those really good ideas so that we can try to go further and provide them to more people with perhaps not the exposure that your students have had. you have taught how many years? >> 21. clinton: and predominantly in high school? >> direct. -- correct. clinton: how would you describe
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your student today compared to when you first started as a teacher? >> i think our students are bolder today. they are more willing to take risk. i think they are also more apprehensive about their future. 20 years ago, a set number of students believed, all right, i am going to college. and another set said, i am very content with getting a job and working on the family farm. we have seen a shift where there is a lot more pressure to go on and pursue education. a of that has come from the financial gain. we see all these charts about with a high school education this is how much money you will make. with a two-year and a four year degree, this is how your outlook can change. i think students see that. if i want to live this american dream i have to go to college.
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and so i think that now our students feel that pressure to go to college. and i think it is a positive pressure that they want to challenge themselves to do more and i think they are also becoming very aware that these jobs than 20 years ago they were able to leave high school and get, now they don't have all that training that they need. i think that is other gap that kirkwood helps fill. >> something i see is, because i have been doing this for about 15 or 16 years. one thing that is different is that kids have to be more precise about what their choices are. if you go back 20 years ago, you are looking at that -- you are looking at plentiful jobs and a great economy.
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there was someone who is helping lead us through that that you might remember. what i would say is that it was kind of easy to go get a four-year degree or easier and now you talking about college loans and debt. that is why i spend a large amount of time being precise and focusing on what we are doing to save them money. so that she can get 48 credits for the right reason and decide where she wants to go. what happens when you are a junior and you don't know where you are going. now you have to be more precise because we are having the conversation in eighth or ninth grade that they used to have when you are a senior. i think the pressure is to be precise because you have to find out where you are going. that is good because rooms like this get them nationally certified. but then we have to do a better job with counselors and teachers of getting threads -- of getting
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kids through that process. clinton: that is another thing that kirkwood does. as i understand it you do a lot of financial counseling for the students here and a lot of outreach. you start in high school, what a lot of people are still not sure exactly what they want to do and they end up in community college and a continuing help, right? >> as you think about the value of a community college, there are a couple that come to mind. one is that we are at a lower cost so he student that doesn't have a clue about what they want to be when they grow up, they can come in and start. they can come in as a sophomore if they want or a junior and think about nursing. they find out they don't like blood, well, i am going to try something else. there are a lot of those opportunities but probably the best thing that this does is when you think about what we are delivering.
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we are focused in on those middle skill jobs which are plentiful out there where there is not enough people to take those jobs. a lot of our academies focus on those. we have over 20 academies. you can do pre-dental, pre-engineering, cma. there are a lot of opportunities for students to choose from and you can see that they have all done something a little different. that is the value of having an opportunity system as you look at it. it is that great partnership we have with the k12. there are 32k12's in our area and every one of them is involved in our current enrollment which really gives an advantage there. we do one thing in eighth grade. we bring in every integrator and we do a literacy day through what's called our workplace
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learning connection. so i won't go into what that is but they actually come into a day and everybody has to do that third. -- do that. clinton: and that starts the discussion about being precise. i think that there are a lot of families who are just as confused and apprehensive as their kids are. what does this mean and how do you do it and how do i even talked to my kid about it. so the school and the colors are helping to support ever the conversation is felt. bethany, tell me about your coming to school and how you made the decision and anything else you would like to share. >> i worked for close to 10 years in homeland security and i
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decided on a career change. so i decided to come to kirkwood. i am a single mother of three kids. i was allowed to do the work study program here and i have had held grants which have helped me -- pell grants which have helped me tremendously. being a parent of a high school student that is getting ready to come to kirkwood next year, i have learned so much here to help him get through it. college has become more of a necessity that it has been before. which is why i came back to kirkwood, because i wanted to be proficient in a skill that i could use in a broad variety of ways, which business administration does for me. clinton: does the work program
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and that held grants pay for it or you have additional costs? >> so far it has paid for it. i am getting to a point where i may have to take out loans which i'm trying to avoid at this point because i don't want a large debt when i'm done. when i am done with kirkwood i would like to continue on to a four-year degree. clinton: that is a great goal and i fully support president obama's plan to make community college free. there are all these other costs that people have to figure out a way to pay and so we have to look at this problem from the perspective of an actual student and the students family. what can you afford? what amount of debt are you willing to take on.
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how we make sure that it is affordable for you and that it can be paid back based on your income. so that you don't get pushed into an absolutely untenable financial situation right out of school when you are trying to get started. then there are all of these other costs whether his books or online materials, whatever you need to actually be able to go to the courses. some people have told me that becomes a bigger problem. a pell grant covers in most instances much of the college cost but a lot of students are working or single parents and they have all these other expenses that they don't have any help trying to pay. how have you thought about that? >> that is where the work study has come in for me because it allows me the opportunity to make money well i am going to school. is not enough to raise my family
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on obviously but eventually it will be. clinton: i think that, looking at education, it truly does remain not only the best pathway although not everybody has to do it exactly the same way. getting these national certifications that allow you to go out of high school and make $40,000 because you are a metal worker or an auto worker, but still getting those skills getting that education, and often times getting a credential is very important in today's global economy. we just have to get back to making it affordable and open for everybody willing to work for it. in many parts of the country now, the cost are so high and some of the for-profit schools and some of the scandals that have arisen and all these places
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where they take put all these young people and their family into debt or they can't graduate is because the other costs are so great, so they drop out and they don't have the degree. we have to take on those interests that want to keep the system the way it is because it generates a lot of money and a lot of interest payments for them and instead get back to basics. i think we have to start that in prekindergarten and i think we have to give more kids the chance. you have to realize you are growing your baby's brain by talking, reading, and singing to that baby. but we know that literally no runs are firing and connections are being made.
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much of their vocabulary has been formed, a lot of their brain development has occurred. so we need an opportunity system from birth through lifelong adult learning and we should be embracing that. it kind of flesh out the bad actors who are taking advantage of students and not really providing much in return and really lift up the good actors like kirkwood. you have been in this field for a long time, how do you see all of this? >> besides what we did during the day, we have over 1000 students taking continuing education. so when you talk about lifelong learning, there is a lot of opportunity to keep their brain active as i call it. i have been in education for 46
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years and i have always thought that we are not doing enough to provide those opportunities not everyone is going to fit into that same old and we have to have different pathways that each one of the students has taken. we need to provide that in the most economical way possible. when you think partnerships and collaboration, that is how we will get it done. we have one of the cct grants in the state of iowa to focus in on advanced manufacturing. all 15 community -- all 15 community colleges were focusing on that. when you put the power of that together, i think it will really make a difference. we put together a proposal that we started to put down the road
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which would make it possible to have what we have here and dmacc has, and there are a couple others in the state to put this opportunity and all of the state. so it doesn't matter where you are, you would have the opportunity to take some of the courses here at kirkwood academies. we are slowly moving that ahead and being delivered about it. i think that is what it is all about. we can't let boundaries defined as. clinton: you are really singing my song here because i think we need a new vision, a new paradigm, of how we're going to do education that can get everybody excited again instead of what into many places have become a pitched battle with a lot of arguments based on ideology instead of results. there has been an enormous amount of research done in education and there is some really good data about what
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works and i think we should be focusing on that. the model, the partnership, the results, are what i hope will guide us as we look at the road ahead. there is a role for the federal government but the real work has to be done at the local level starting with families, then schools, then community colleges, four-year colleges. i really believe that the country is right for that kind of conversation. i think there is a lot of frustration. you mentioned no child left behind. i think there were a lot of goals that were important there but i think we learned what works and what doesn't work so well and we should focus on the former more than the latter and try to figure out how we take a system that has so much potential and has produced so many positive outcomes for so many millions of people and just get down to really sorting out how we work together instead of
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arguing about education. how we work together and get everybody acting in good faith around the table and try to sort it out. it is clear to me that when you look at community colleges, those are a uniquely american invention. that is why i am really starting here. when you talk about american education in american innovation and creating jobs, community colleges are something that nobody else in the world did. i have spent years telling people around the world, look at our community colleges, but a lot of still haven't caught on to the secret. so it until they do, let's do more to make sure that community college is available. i am thrilled to be starting this campaign in iowa, going out and listening to people and learning from all of you what works, what you are concerned about, what the problems are
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but also, what is exciting about the future, and then putting it all together so that we can be really focused on how we respect each other again, trust each other again, listen to each other again, work with each other again. leave the ideology and the partisanship at the door and come in and just say here are the goals we should have, an opportunity system for all of our people starting before they go into formal school all the way through in the education arena and in all the other areas that really matter to middle-class families. they know that this is a route forward for them and their kids. i really grateful that you would take time to spend with me and i want to give anybody a chance to say any last-minute concern or issue.
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andrew anything? since you are going to the naval academy, how do you see our security and some of the issues around your service? >> after meeting with a lot of the midshipmen there i met with some who it just finished their first year, a couple who are just finished their last and were about to go out. i think the future for the military is bright. i haven't seen a lot of it yet but i will get plenty of that in the next four years. clinton: good for you. >> one thing that comes to mind with me, it doesn't particularly affect me, but it is disabilities. in school, it is harder to grasp
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concepts for her than other children. i was wondering what your policies that you have for children with disabilities. i think that it would be beneficial for her if she had an opportunity like in the summer to continue her education so that when she came back to school she did have to start over again, she could continue on. clinton: that is a really important point, because for many students, and again there is research, that have difficulties learning whether it is because of disabilities or other circumstances in their lives, they lose a lot of the ground that they gained during the school year because during the summer they don't have the constant stimulation education that would give them the chance to keep learning and keep building. i think that we should do much more to realize the promise that
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again, tom harkin was the champion of, to make sure that people, but particularly young people with disabilities, have the learning opportunities that they need. not everybody learns the same way or at the same pace. there are students who learned with their hands, there are students who learn by listening there are students who need a relationship with the teacher. others who do it online. we have to start sorting this out and for students with disabilities, we want them to have a place in society that gives them satisfaction and provides an opportunity even to make a living or to make a contribution. i would like to see us explore more ways that we can use the existing system to provide whether it is at a community college or a four-year college or a local school district that other people come from other
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districts to be part of, so that kids with disabilities have that one-on-one continuing support that so many of them need like your sister. diane, what other points would you like to make? >> i think that we are very blessed to live where we do, where education starting very young through high school, community college, college, we have all these opportunities. i worry that not all of america gets to experience this treasure that we have. and i think the common core is a wonderful step in the right direction. of improving american education. it is painful to see that attacked. i am just wondering, what can you do to bring that part -- that part back to education in the united states. what can we do so that parents
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and communities and businesses believe in american education? and that teachers are respected and our schools are respected and are colleges are respected? and we offer a quality education to all americans throughout the united states. clinton: that is really a powerful, touching comment that i absolutely embrace. when i think about the really unfortunate argument that has been going on around common core, it is very painful because the common core started off as a bipartisan effort. it was actually nonpartisan. it wasn't politicized. it was to try to come up with a core learning that we might expect students to achieve
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across our country no matter what kind of school district they were in, no matter how poor their family was. that there wouldn't be two tiers of education. everyone would be looking at what was to be learned and doing their best to try and achieve that. i think part of the reason why iowa may be more understanding of this is that you have the iowa core. you have had a system. plus the iowa assessment tests. i took those when i was in elementary school. iowa has had a testing system based on a core curriculum for a really long time. and you see the value of it. you understand why that helps you organize your whole education system. a lot of states unfortunately haven't had that and so they
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don't understand the value of a common core. of course you can figure out the best way in your community to try and reach, but your question is really a larger one. how do we end up at a point where we are so negative about the most important nonfamily enterprise about how our kids are educated. there are a lot of expirations for that, but whatever they are we need to try and get back into a broad conversation where people will actually listen to each other again and try to come up with solutions for problems. the problems here in that is a given.
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we have to do things differently. it should all be driven by the same commitment to try to make sure we do educate every child. that is why i was a senator and voted for, you know, leave no child behind because i how to thought every child should matter and shouldn't be you are poor or you have disabilities so we will sweep you to the back, don't show up on test day because we don't want to mess up our scores no, every child should have the same opportunity. i think we to get back to basics and have to look to teachers to lead the way on that. you are the ones who have 21, 15, 40 -- 46 years of experience. >> oh, gosh. clinton: i think you make a very important ox observation about what we need to be doing and what i hope i can do in this cal campaign and as president.
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stephanie? stephanie: i'm wondering what the government can do or what the schools can do to help people like myself, single mothers that are are struggling to better themselves and better their families. you know, when kind of advantages can they help with? clinton: well, i want to tell you about a program i started when i lived in arkansas. and when i was teaching at the university of arkansas. and i got to know a lot of the students who were single parents, predominantly women not all but mostly. and who were trying to raise their families, work and go to school and it was really difficult. so i started something called the arkansas single parent scholarship fund. and we raiseed money first in the county where i lived and where the university was and now it as statewide program in arkansas and people give money to
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supplement the needs of single parents. it is what i was talking about earlier. if you are a single parent and you have an old clunky car and it breaks down and can't be fixed, where are you going to gentlemen theget the money to buy a new car or get it towed here to try and fix it? either way, right? or you have childcare and your childcare falls apart the perp whoperson who you trusted to look after your kids is moving or are gentlemenning a different job. -- are getting a different job. where does the money from that come from? the single parent scholarship fund provides these kinds of emergency financial assistance partly cloudy ands for people. and i think the last time i checked it helped 35,000 single parents go to college, either community and get their associate's degree, forayer four year
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and get their bachelor's and it has been a lifesaver. for so many people you are on your own and trying to do this and manage it and it is not easy. i would like to see that kind of program available in every state and it is all donations. it is everybody just contributes because they want to help. and every county runs their own version of that. stephanie: even with employers if you could go out and get a full-time job and still go to school if employers were willing to work around the school schedule rather than say no, your hours are 9:00 to 5:00 or 3 tile3:00 to 11:00 or whatever. if they helped you out like that it would be such an advantage to people myself. clinton: and cree create more lie loyalty among employees. ile be rolling out a lot of different policies about how to help families balance work and
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family responsibilities. but business also has to step up because i think many businesses i'm not going to say all but many businesses could be more flexible and more understanding and more supportive of the stresses that are on modern families today. i think we should try to incentive size some of those behaviors so that business get some support for doing an approach that might be different than one they would prefer because it is easier if you just come at 9:00 and leave at 5:00 or come at 3:00 and leave at 11:00 and up with of the big challenges we are facing right now is that a lot of places there is no predictability for schedule at all. put yourself in the position you are in now raising three kids, doing your work and going to cal and suppose you are working at a place that calls you up the night before and says i don't need you tomorrow don't show up so you don't get paid or call
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you up and say i want you to come on tomorrow and the next day from 3:00 to 11:00 and you say i have a class at 6:00 to bad you have to show up. people are saying that is not right. there should be predictability in employment flexploy and flexibility on the side of the employer. we have to find a way to do that. drew? drew: i want to comment on how great the program has been because it allows you to experience different career fields. you can eliminate your options and finally tonight, out what you want to go to and spend the money to go to school for along with the job shadows and internships and give you a sense of what is out there and gives you a chance to get hands on experience and really get a good education on what there is as well as the programs themselves
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for the education from the program. phil: it clinton: it has really been a big plus for you, you really feel like it helped you not only learn skills but have a better idea of what you want to do in future? drew: yes. clinton: jason? jason: on the drive over we were talking about that. we are happy to have you in iowa. i know iowans are pragmatic proud people i have to use the best word i can is like we are just regular pale and people and appreciate that you came here on the first stop and coming to kirkwood is huge and one request that i would have as you start campaigning and moving around is remember this kid right here because at the end of the day you know, if you are a lawyer, if you are doctor, no one has
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ever done that job. so when you look around people go i don't really understand that. in education, everyone has been in school so everyone feels like they know when education should be. that is good and also problematic when trying to make change. one thing that i hope you focus on not only in iowa but around the country education is really i believe the key to everything we do. think about it, you are a teacher when you went to other cup interests and talked to them about what is going on you are teaching about when is going on here. your students were the world. you will be doing that as you move across state and country and help everyone remember that education is heart of everything we do and we need to really do a good job of that whether here at kirkwood or in a high school or college setting, i think education should be a big part of what you aring to and i know you are going to do that. clinton: absolutely. both of you mentioned heart about education and it really is at the heart of what i think
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would need to stand for and the values we need to pursue in our country and i just want us to trust and respect especially our teachers again so that we can get to where we need to go in terms of providing these pathways for opportunity. and you know we live in such a fast-moving world right now that you know what you decide to do drew when you get out of high school may not be what you decide to do when you are jason's age or what andrew decides it do coming out of the naval academy may not be the same or ellen you may decide to use your education for something else. that is the beauty of our system. we do have that flexibility. and there is not many other places in the world that really do have that. but with that flexibility comes a responsibility to make sure that our young people are well prepared so that they can be on
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a trajectory that allows them to make the choices that are best for them as they grow up. and that is what i want to see again. i never doubted that. when i was, you know growing up in illinois, i never doubted that if i got a good education that was preached into me every single day by my parents that i didn't know what i would be doing. i never thought i would be sitting here telling you i'm running for president. but i knew that if i got a good education i did my part. i had to work hard i'm not justcying around letting somebody else do it but if i did that this country held out so much promise for me. and it then would be up to me to try to find my way forward and make the decisions that were best for me and my family. that is what i want for eastbound. you know, i -- i have this -- what i want for everybody. i have this new grand daughter and i want her to have every
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opportunity but i wasn't every child in our country to have every opportunity and that is one of the main reasons that i decided to run because believe me i know that it is not going to be easy, that i will have to work hard to earn every single vote and get every caucus goer i can round up to show up next february but i just felt like i couldn't walk away from what i see as the challenges we face and i want to build on what we have done to get out of the terrible recession and get back on our feet. but we have to run the race. and i don't want people whose views about how we run that race that i don't believe are in the best interest of our country to be make the decisions. so i'm here and looking forward to traveling around the state and i think i will go to a few more community colleges and learn some more by talking to the people and seeing what you are doing and finding ideas that
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no only work in iowa but can work anywhere. so, thank you for having us. >> thank you very much. clinton: thank you very much. >> comingcoming up, the house oversight committee investigates charges that d.e.a. agents attended sex pears parties thrownpy drug cartels. later, the senate foreign row lakes committee considers the iran nuclear framework and congressional stipular stipulations to a deal. on the next washington journal congressman jim mcdermott discusses the repeal of the medicare payment formula known as the doc fix and challenges to the president's healthcare law. then congressman james renacci
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he had big dreams and he was a visionary. >> watch all of our events from saint augustine saturday at 12:00 eastern and sunday afternoon at 2:00 on american history tv on c-span 3. house oversight and government reform economyee members criticized d.e.a. administrator tuesday for not firing agents amid allegations they attended illegal sex parties hosted by drug cartels overseas. she was joined at the hearingpy the f.b.i. deputy director and the justice department up spector general. this is 3:10. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] >> we are here to talk about alarming problems that the premier law epiforcement agencies. the way it is reported from the department of justice inspector general outlines a number of problems that the conduct of both law enforcement officers and agencies that manage them.
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that report outlined a number of key problems. law enforcement engaged in reprehensible sexual harassment and misconduct that jeopardized national security. second, the agencies mishandled the responses to the incidents by failing to properly report them leading to insufficient punishment and third, the f.b.i. and the d.e. tried to hide the incidents by improperly withholding information and encouraging employees not to cooperate with the inspector general. hiding information from the inspector general is simply and totally unacceptable. the department of justice inspector are general report documents that a number of highly concerning findings about federal law enforcement. one of the most shocking incidents mr. horowitz described in the report involved d.e.a. agents in colombia partying with prostitutes paid for by drug
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cartels. while the d.e.a. agents were spending time with the prostitutes, the local colombian police were watching the agent's guns and property. the fact that this happened was bad enough. but none of these agents were really even punished by the d.e.a. most agents involved were suspended for a few days and allowed to return to work with the security clearances in full. based on the testimony we are read from the d.e.a. administrator she says she doesn't have the power to simply file these people. i don't buy it the american public doesn't buy it. this administration, this d.e.a. administrator has got to hold those people accountable and get them out of there. if this is the kind of behavior they are going to engainl in it is totally unacceptable and they should not have a security clearance and they should be fired. some of these agencies
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compromised our national security and then essentially got a vacation. the punishment for engaging in this type of behavior was two to 10 days off paid leave. a nonpaid leave. that sounds like a vacation to me. it doesn't sound like punishment. to suggest that these people couldn't be fired or do something more severe is simply upacceptable. and again i want to remind our members this is a matter of national security. we are talking about people's lives and the d.e.a. as much as anybody puts people overseasseas in very tough and difficult situations but when we have bad apples who repeatedly do the same type of behavior and compromise our national security they need to lose their national security clearances and they need to be fired. the i.g. report found this is hardly an isolated incident. it high lies repeated abuses of sexual misconduct including
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unreported cases of a.t.f. training instructors sleeping with students. using government vehicles to facilitate inappropriate sexual relationships and managers sexually harassing employees and asking them to watch pornography. it also makes clear when law enforcement agents engage in the behavior the agency they work for often times just simply looks the other way. to use the i.g. language the cases are treated as "local management issues." in other words, they are basically swept under the rug. add together concerns raised in the error is the fact that the d.e.a. and the f.b.i. tried to hide these incidents from their own inspector general. both the d.e.a. and the f.b.i. went out of their way to impede and delay the inspector general's report. according to the report, the d.e.a. and the f.b.i. delayed responding to requests for information are vied heavily
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redacted documents and even told their employees not to cooperate. for example, the inspector general asked the d.e.a. to run more than 40 search terms. to search their database and identify relevant information. the three terms, three out of of the more than 40 that they ran included sex prosti and exposure. not included were bro they will, escobar core. ha ross. rape. solicit and the list goes on. why exclude, why exclude the search terms that the inspect tore general is asking for? it is not the d.e.a.'s responsibility to weed that out. your job is to allow the inspector general to get in there and get his fingernails dirty and go figure out the truth. but that is not what happened. i want to put up a slide here. when the d.e.a. finally did
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provide information after significant delay in some cases documents were so heavily redacted the i.g. couldn't even tell what the documents were about. this is the type of documentation that the inspector general was given but you at the d.e.a. and we want answers as to why that is. the good men and women who work at the inspector general's office to tough, difficult work but they can't do anything if they get that kind of material from the d.e.a. and it is is not just the d.e.a. it is the f.b.i. it is the other agencies as well. it is not acceptable. we have a lot of questions for which necessaries here today to testify both on behalf of the d.e.a. and f.b.i. it is incumbent upon the leadership to weed out employees who put our security at risk, embarrass country and break the law. to the good men and women, the overwhelming majority of men and
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women who do their job in a patriotic hard working way god bless you. we need you, we love you and we care for you. it is irresponsible of management to not deal with the the bad apples. people are going to make mistakes but these weren't simple mistakes. this went on and on and on. multiple reports of sex parties and loud parties to the pin that the landlord was complaining back to the government about how out of control our over federal employees were serving overseas. against the people who cause these problems, i recognize they are are a small percentage of the total population who have not been held accountable for that i dangerous lapses in judgment. i would ask unanimous consent i would live to enter two documents into the record. first of all, is from our attorney general eric holder on april 10 of this year, prohibition on the solicitation of prostitution.
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how bad is it? one of his last act as as attorney general eric holder has toish shaw a member ran dumb explaining to people that you can't do this. again. it is almost embarrassing that he has to do it. i appreciate that he did it to clarify if there is some misunderstanding out there. i would like to enter that into the record. i also want to enter into the record a document response to assistant inspector general for evaluations and inspections of the office of inspector general to nina i'm going to slaughter the last name, pelletier, i guess. and from michael dixon. saying that i'm going to read the last line. d.e.a. did a second review of of the cases the o.i.g. reviewed to determine if the office of professional responsibility had appropriately and thoroughly investigated the allegations. it was found through the review that the investigations were
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investigated properly through d.e.a.'s disciplinary process related to misconduct. telling the inspector general that yeah, we did everything we could, that it was properly moved -- investigated properly through d.e.a. disciplinary process. that is a sad day for the d.e.a. with that, i will now yield to the gentleman from maryland, the ranking member mr. cummings for five minutes. senator cummings: thank you very much mr. chairman. and set forth mr. chairman at the beginning of the inspector general's report is a well known doctrine for law enforcement officers. it simply says and i "given the nature of their work, federal law enforcement many employees are held to the highest standard of conduct and must be accountable for their actions both on and off duty.
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although this should be obvious it bears repeating here today and bears repeating every day. the inspector general's report details conduct that is simply deplorable for anyone, let alone the law enforcement officials serving the united states of america. the report describes allegations allegations that a colombian police officer arranged sex parties with prostitutes funded by the local drug cartels for has to these d.e.a. agents at their government- lisa: ed leased headquarters. all who he it describes activities between 2005 and 2008 last night our committee obtained new documents showing
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that some of these allegations were made far earlier. some date back as early as 2001. the d.e. a&e now produced to the committee 88 internal reports issued by its office of professional responsibility. one of these reports in particular, a case number 20120085 goes into great detail about these allegations. however, the agency has warned that releasing the entire report could and i quote "expose complainants witnesses and victims" so we must summarize its findings today. this new internal report details years of allegations begin beginning in 2001 ha portray a d.e.a. agents as completely out
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of control. they appear to have fra fraternized with cartel members, accepted lavish gifts and paid for prostitutes with no concern whatsoever tore the negative repercussions or security vulnerabilities they cree crated. the new internal report describes not the one or two isolated incidents, but literally dozens of parties with prostitutes in which d.e.a. agents used government funds and government offices. mr. chairman, my staff prepared a sum' of this new internal -- a summary of this through earn ternal report and i ask unanimous consent it be included in the hearing record. chairman: without objection. representative cummings: it includes recklessness by d.e.a.
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agents sworn to protect our country. i want to know how the incidents could have continued for so long for the better part of of a decade without being addressed. the head of this agency, michelle leonhart is here with us today. given her extended tenure at d.e.a. during the same time it is frame of these abuses we will have very direct questions for her. the administrator was nominated by president bush in 2003 to seven as deputy administrator of the d.e.a. and began serving is actinged a-mile-per-houred serving as actinged a-mile-per-hour straighteredact administrator in 2007. three was nominated again and confirmed in 200. the inspector general reports and i quote says that "the
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d.e.a. supervisors treated alleged sexual misconduct and sexual harassment as a local management or performance related issue." if t. finds when thed a administrator learned about the allegations her agency imposed extremely light penalties. for example, when she was informed about wild parties involving prostitutes she and i quote "counseled the regional director for failing to report the allegations." that was it. just counseling. no other disciplinary actions. one critical question for the administrator is what women who work in these law enforcement agencies must think. with only coupe selling sessions and suspensions are two weeks or less for misconduct like this, what
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