tv Key Capitol Hill Hearings CSPAN April 15, 2015 5:00am-7:01am EDT
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senator corker: i appreciate the comments, and if i could wave a wand or pigs began to fly, we could turn this into the type of agreement that has been discussed, but i will say this the administration, as you know in the previous hearing we had has been fighting strongly against this. secretary kerry fighting against this earlier today. i know they have relented because of what they believed to be the outcome here. but i believe this is going to be an important role and especially the compliance pieces that come afterwards. a very significant thing that did not occur under the north korean agreement. senator cardin: i don't think we will convince congress that the
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president will have a role in what we do. but i just want to assure you that in my conversations with the administration, it has been a very positive conversation over the last 10 days looking for a way that they can resolve the concerns that they had in a genuine way i just want to be clear that the administration has been very open about trying to get to where we are today and i just thank you for allowing us to have that open process. senator corker: senator coons. senator coons: thank you for the clear eyed and tough way to have
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negotiated this compromise that is in front of us this afternoon. we have a broad and shared common goal just to prevent a nuclear capable iran. the only question ahead of us is what role this congress and this committee will play in important foreign-policy decisions and in particular in consideration of a deal with iran and the p5+1 partners should there be one. i want to thank senator menendez in his role for laying a lot of the groundwork, senator kaine for keeping it on a bipartisan basis. i look forward to supporting it and hopefully to our moving it out today the strong bipartisan vote. but we have a simple question about which path forward this committee will take today. we can, bypassing this package it sure that in the event of a deal with iran, congress has a
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constructive role to play, an opportunity to approve the deal and say engage with oversight, oregon rejected and expose the deal too messy attempts from congress. we can embrace this compromise and help our diplomats and negotiators by presenting a unified position and a reasonable process for congressional review or we can rejected and hurt our diplomats and negotiators recreating in other partisan fiasco and sending mixed messages to the world. it is my hope that we will not reject this agreement. by doing so, we would once again have this committee served as a minor speedbump as this administration and future administrations make foreign-policy largely unrestrained. we can pass this out of committee today and reassert that before the senate relations committee has an important role to play in our nation's foreign-policy decisions. it is my hope that on a bipartisan basis we will do just that and take the reasonable path forward.
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senator corker: senator flake, who has been so constructive from the very beginning. senator flake: in the interest of voting on this for the administration submits a final agreement, i will yield. senator corker: any other opening comments? senator udall: i agree with the thrust of what senator flake says and i just want to say very briefly that i will take all my time here. i think this committee and what chairman corker and the ranking member and senator menendez and others have done have been incredibly important.
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arthur vandenberg used to use the phrase that politics stops at the water's edge, which is the best tradition of the senate foreign relations committee and i think that is what we have seen today with you, chairman corker, and ranking member cardin, and senator menendez. i think, chairman corker, you have incredible restraint of not getting on that letter that was sent to the ayatollah. i think, once again, i pat you on the back for that because i think once again that is in the tradition of this committee trying. one thing i want to do, this agreement that the ministration is working on has had a lot to do with the national laboratories.
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we have two of the three national security labs in new mexico. we can't talk now about all the great things those scientists have done in the contribution they have made, but they are really on top of these nuclear enterprise issues and i know the story will come out eventually about how important that is and i ask that the washington post editorial be put into the record at this point. senator corker: i have visited both of those labs and certainly they play an incredible role in our national security as the oak ridge lab in tennessee in cooperation with them on these issues. any other comments? senator kaine: thank you mr. chair. i strongly supported the beginning of the negotiations with iran when president obama announced in november of 2013 and really viewed it as the fruition of your efforts. i was not in the senate when the sanctions regime was passed, but for those of you that were, the economic realities of that
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regime opened up an opportunity and our president did what we hope our president would do we just seek a diplomatic answer to the question. i also have a number of questions about the framework of the deal but i see much that i feel positive about. the rollback of the enriched uranium is massive and the agreement to participate in the iaea's additional inspections. i am pro-diplomacy and i see positive things in the framework but i am strongly for congressional approval. there has been some suggestion that if you think congress is to approve this you are pro-war or anti-diplomacy. that is offensive. we have a role under article two and i think congressional approval in this instance is
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necessary, helpful, and what the american public demands and deserves. it is necessary because at the core this is a negotiation about what iran must do to get out from under a sanctions regime. since congress will be involved, the only question is, will that involvement be helpful and orderly or it will it be under free-for-all rules? much better for us, the administration, the p5+1, the iran that we are asking to make the concessions, to have a process that is orderly and constructive. and finally, it is something the american public really deserves. i have been talking to virginians about this for months and i have recently seen some polling that it seems kind of odd when you look at it but it does make some sense.
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the american public is deeply concerned about an iranian nuclear weapons program. the american public, just as we are, really hope that we will find a diplomatic answer to that problem. they prefer diplomacy over more just like we do. the american public is deeply skeptical about iran's intentions. the american public overwhelmingly wants congress to approve a deal rather than the president just to announce a deal. focus on that one for a minute. why do my constituencies and yours to want to deal to have to be approved by congress? it is not out of disrespect for the president and it is not because they like congress. they are so concerned about the magnitude of this deal that they feel more comfortable if both the executive and the legislature take a look and say, this is in the best interest of the nation. this is why people get a second opinion when they hear from the doctor something they don't like.
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the american people will feel more comfortable if it is the legislature and the executive reviewing it. i want to thank you mr. chair, senator cardin, senator menendez, and all my colleagues. senator murphy: thank you mr. chairman and to the ranking member, as well as to the white house for bringing this incredibly productive compromise before us today. i have been of like mind with senator boxer. i have believed that this has been a largely unnecessary endeavor in that the legislation we are debating today does not really reserved for congress any power that we don't already have. we had the ability already before this debate to be able to review this agreement once it is submitted to congress and to be able to take away from the president the power to waive sanctions. after the passage of this bill we still have that power. all along, my concern has simply
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been whether we are engaging in an effort that is going to make it less likely rather than more likely that we will get a deal to review. i reserve the right to be able to weigh in on that agreement, i just don't want to be taking any steps that lessen the chances that we will be able to conduct that oversight when the time is appropriate. i would just reiterate what we have heard today from the administration. i think we have heard very clearly that the changes that have been made over the past 24-48 hours essentially makes this legislation but nine as it relates to the negotiations. with the short timeframe removal of terrorist certification, this legislation and the passage of it is not going to affect the negotiations or the ability for us is a body to see the final agreement. i am happy to support it.
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my final comment is this one and it builds up a comment from senator kaine. i do worry about a double standard in this congress. i don't worry about it when it comes to senator kaine gussie was right there at the beginning saying that we should oversee the president's proposed military action in the middle east. but we have a constitutional duty to declare war, and we have been in this committee now for about four months and have not taken any progress to fulfill what is our constitutional obligation to oversee war. i would argue that we don't have a constitutional obligation here and that we don't even have the ability to weigh and until after we see a final agreement. i just don't want to be in a situation where we have a higher standard of oversight on diplomacy then we have for war. i am glad to support this compromise moving forward, i
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think it will provide for a useful framework for the review of this agreement should it be entered into. but i want to make sure that this committee moving forward is just as vigorous in its oversight of war-making powers as it is on diplomacy. i am hopeful that we will show some consistency iss and months to come. senator corker: i think the reason the administration in the last two hours has chosen the path that they are now taking is the number of senators that they realized were going to support this legislation. so anyway, i have 180 degree different view of what has happened over the last couple of hours, but i appreciate your comment. senator markey: thank you mr. chairman, and again i can't praise you enough for the way you are conducting this committee.
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i think this is really in the best tradition of the senate foreign relations committee and the way that people might understand it to be. i thank you senator cardin for your excellent work in helping to create a bridge that has brought us to this moment. but i also want to thank senator menendez and senator kaine for their work in ensuring that there will be a protection of constitutional prerogative especially in an era where the sanctions were actually a congressional idea. it originated here, and to a very large extent that is why the iranians have come to the table. it is altogether fitting and appropriate that we are at this moment and there is going to be an assertion of this congressional prerogative to oversee such an important matter.
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we congratulate all of you. and by the way, every member of the committee that participated in this process. there is no more important subject for the congress to have to deal with. the iaea is perhaps the least well-known, most important institution on the planet. that is what we are going to be debating over the next four or five months, the role that the iaea can play in avoiding a dramatic escalation of nuclear weapons or liberation in the middle east that we have avoided or 70 years. it will be critical for the senate, the house to be able to to determine the adequacy of the inspections. the funding, made available to ensure that the iaea can be the
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policeman, the protector against the compromise of civilian nuclear program, that in the wrong hands and turned into a nuclear bomb factory. that is what this is about. that is why the israelis are looking at this so closely. it is why the saudis, egyptians, the turks, are all looking at this issue so closely. if we get it wrong, it will lead to the escalation that we have of waited. over all of these decades. so, this is a big moment and i think this committee has handled the issue responsibly. and i think to a certain extent, just listening to expert opinion, i think there is a surprise that people have had with regard to the specificity in the agreement, with senator kerry, and secretary moneys, and president obama have brought
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back to america. it should give us hope that an agreement can be reached that come pushes all goals. and it is appropriate for this committee, the senate, to advise and consent. to have a role in conducting the hearings and hearing the evidence and making the decision, bit -- because a lot of the rest of the history of the century will actually ride on how this agreement is in fact written, and enforced. so, i keep coming back to thanking you for the way in which you are conducting a, it is the appropriate role for this committee and the senate. i cannot praise senator kane and you mr. chairman, for the incredible work you have done. the yield. senator corker: thank you. i would entertain a motion for a
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rollcall vote. >> mr. chairman, i would like to make a comment. senator corker: actually, i think you can do that now. thank you for your involvement in this and making this bill better. >> i want to thank chairman corker and senator cardin. for many of you, as you remember, i have worked for hostages in iran in 1979. when we negotiated to release those people, at the time it was 52 living people, we negotiated away so that they could get competition from the iranian government. there is a bill i offered as an amendment for reasons i understand, that will allow us to collect, the -- money available to compensate each one
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of those remaining 44 citizen still alive today. the chairman and ranking member asked me to withdraw the amendment because it is not appropriate given the nature of the framework of the deal and i agree with that, but you are both gracious enough to include it in the manager's amendment and i appreciate that and i appreciate your willingness, and time in the future, to allow that legislation to come before the committee. we go those americans everything, they were captured torture, for 444 days they are the only civilians kept in captivity that never got compensation from their captors. i want to see to it that that happens. i want to thank the chairman and ranking members for everything i have done. i withdraw my other amendment. senator corker: thank you and thank you for your support for these families and everything may have gone through. is there any member that would like to offer an amendment to the manager's package. >> i would like to call up an
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amendment. this restores language from the underlying base built on the terrorism certification. it is simple and straightforward, reestablishing the requirement that the president certified iran has not directly supported or carried out in active terrorism against the united states or the -- or a united states person anywhere in the world. this is a bill that had significant bipartisan support bipartisan cosponsorship, and iran has tended designated by the u.s. as a state sponsor of terrorism since 1984. i think it is critical for the president to make this certification for the american people, we are serious about our national security and the think it is important that the committee clearly state that we will not hillary -- tolerate terrorism against our nation. senator corker: i want to thank the senator for the way he has conducted himself and raising this issue. i want the audience to know,
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this was a request by senator mark -- senator menendez. it is difficult for me to understand why certification like this would not be easily made candidly. we have had more in this bill on terrorism than we ever had before. iran attempted terrorist acts against u.s., and they would most likely have missiles, i don't know why this could not be agreed to, but it was true that the administration did not want to have other issues not relevant to the nuclear deal in this. i have agreed to that and while i support your amendment and at the base bill as it was before i think you should know that i will oppose it and i think that will create problems for the balance that we have today. and now the ranking member. >> thank you mr. chairman, let me ask plane. i agree with the chairman, the sponsorship of this is well and tend it.
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we want to see iran and its terrorism in many regions, that is troubling to world stability. it is a major continuing problem. i agree completely with the intent of this amendment. i disagree with the chairman though about the impact of this amendment. this amendment would have the unintended consequence of i think, defeating possibilities for diplomacy, let me ask my wife. the president would not be able to make a certification, because he could not make this a vacation, there would be annexed the guided her -- process for sections against iran. therefore, it would be contrary to what is being negotiated today in regards to the nuclear proliferation related to what they will do to give up nuclear
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weapons in regards to sanctions, because they violated their relief relation -- proliferation obligations. there are separate sanctions and regards to terrorism, missiles and human rights. and the manager's amendment makes it clear that nothing in the negotiations affect those sanctioned regimes. we have that told in place, but is not the sanctions imposed in regards to the nuclear proliferation discussion. therefore the, this became part of the bill, it would very likely be used as a reason to say that diplomacy cannot work the president cannot make certifications, cannot give the relief that it is being negotiated and the u.s. would be blamed for the negotiations, putting iran in a stronger position internationally banned they are today. i know that is not the intent, but i think that is the consequences. let me though, point out.
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senator menendez in the original bill included very strong report language on the terrorist activities of iran that must be submitted to congress on a periodic basis. that language is not only included in the manager's amendment, but strengthened in it the manager's amendment. we have also included other language that says that iran -- the president must submit all actions including an international forum being taken by the u.s., to condemn acts being taken by iran in the event of terrorist acts against the u.s. and the safety of american citizens as a result of iranian actions reported under this paragraph and an additional paragraph was added, and assessment of internationally recognized human rights, changed, decreased, as compared to prior 180 day. this report is due every six months. it is a very strong provision in
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regards to keeping congress informed as to these types of activities. of course, we always have the right to take action. i would urge my colleagues to recognize the certification provision could very well compromise the ability of the u.s. to continue negotiations, whereas this manager's amendment is very strong in the terrorism issues. senator corker: yes, senator menendez. senator menendez: i have no doubt that iran is a major state of terrorism. having said that, my reason for seeking to include it was concerned that non-nuclear sanctions would be waived as it relates to terrorism and other elements. in view of the language that makes it clear that none of those other sanctions will be
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waived as a result of any nuclear deal, i certainly support the bill as it presently stands and i will continue to pursue iran as it relates to state-sponsored terrorism and other venues, but i think it is important having that clear now, that that is not going to be waived under any circumstances to have this type of process for the senate to review any potential deals at the end of the day, that i don't think that this is an impediment to our goals of having a due process and making sure iran continues to suffer consequences for being state-sponsored terrorism. senator corker: i would -- >> we know that iran has targeted and killed americans, i want to point out, a week ago in the wall street journal, there were statements with the recent addition of battlefield that were occupied in the middle east, waterways, arch rival
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saudi arabia and american allies and unless local restraints is linked to an agreement freeing iran from sanctions, empowering iran and their tendencies, it -- efforts, excuse me, the linkages between -- traditional allies will conclude that the u.s. has traded corporation for iran -- it is important that we have this in here. senator corker: thank you, very much. i have spent time talking to secretary kissinger, we have that ability and i could not agree more with the comments that were in that, that is why the language that senator menendez has mentioned clears that up and absolutely makes it known that we in no way, no way as part of the agreement that we will discuss later if we passed the legislation, in a way will sanctions be removed.
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i will add, to the extent that we have the information come up will be much more available to us from an intelligence standpoint, as to what happens. we have the tool of all of the sanctions that we are talking about to add to that. but i know the senator would like to have a vote, if there is no objection, then do you want to speak to it anymore? let's have a rollcall vote. >> i. >> i. >> i. >> mr. blake? >> i. >> i. >> no. >> no. >> no. >> i. >> no. >> no. >> no. >> aye. >> no. >> no.
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>> no. >> no. >> no. >> no. >> no. >> no. >> no. >> what is the report? >> [indiscernible] senator corker: thank you and i appreciate your ability to raise the issue. it is my understanding that if there are no other amendment are there any other amendments? i think we have had a motion and a second to move to the manager's package which we will now vote on and i would, if the
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amendments to the basic legislation in the manager's package? is there a motion that we move ahead with approving the bill as amended by the manager's package? it has been moved and seconded if the clerk would make the motion to approve, the iran nuclear agreement of 2015 >> -- >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye. >> aye.
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>> aye. >> aye. >> aye. senator corker: thank you. clerk will report. >> mr. chairman, ayes, 19, nays, 0. senator corker: without objection the committee will stand, thank you all. thank you. [chattering] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org]
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>> the white house press secretary said president obama would be willing to support the compromise of the nuclear agreement, but that major changes could make it unacceptable. >> senator bob corker, the chairman of the relations committee, thank you for being here. senator corker: thank you for having me. >> this was a markup we thought would go a lot longer, why did it end already? senator corker: this was a victory for the american people. unanimous -- unanimously, we
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passed a bill saying that all's -- all details would be passed to congress, to give congress if they disapprove of what is happening, the right to pass a resolution of disapproval that would stop the sanctions and then it will continue to play a role to make sure that they comply. most people worry that iran would cheat on a deal, i think that is said by both sides of the aisle, including the president in some cases. as was a great victory. the american people do need people on their behalf looking at the details, i want to see a strong negotiated agreement, that is the best outcome for our citizens. i do think that congress playing this role on behalf of the people to make sure that iran is accountable, to make sure that we have full transparency and that this is something that is enforceable on behalf of the
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american people, that is an important thing. >> what changed the president's mind? senator corker: earlier, john kerry was pushing against this legislation. i think they realized by about 12:30 p.m., that this train was running in front of them and would pass overwhelmingly. it was going to be way beyond a vetoproof majority, so at 1:00 p.m. they sent the chief of staff over to tell people that they would release the hold. it took congress and a bipartisan way to show strength on this issue and they realized it was a losing proposition for them and they came over and lifted their hold. >> did anything change with the new ranking democrat? senator corker: bob menendez at
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was a star, he has been very constructive on these issues. some things change for circumstances, been -- ben cardin stepped in where bob left off and he did an outstanding job. it was seamless and it worked the way things should work and i am proud of the united states senate today. >> we are speaking with bob corker, did congress get what is looking for in this administration? senator corker: this is exactly what we had proposed, and it is that the president must submit every detail, including classified annexes that the public will never have access to, allow us to sit there and let the clock start on us, let us review after we have all the materials, for us to have a process where if we disapprove we have the right to do that. it is a hurdle, a high hurdle, i
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understand. but we want to be involved and make sure that the president can certify coming he or she, they can certify that iran is living within the deal, if one is consummated. this is exactly what the process has always been and i am glad senator cardin and menendez and caine helped work it through the way they did and i want to say lindsey graham in the beginning was with us, he was not on the committee, but he was making sure this happen. >> it passed unanimously, did that surprise you? senator corker: i knew we would have a strong vote and i knew it would give a strong signal to the white house that their veto was going to be useless. there probably were a couple members who once they knew the veto would be lifted, they would -- they knew it would be overwhelming. >> you do not trust iran?
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senator corker: let me say one more time, the best solution for americans and the world is a strong negotiated agreement with iran. iran has proven that with every single agreement we have had that they have not lived up to it, even today in the interim agreement there are 12 pieces of information that the iaea is seeking -- they have proven to be difficult, i think everyone involved in the negotiations on behalf of america understands the group of people that certainly have not lived up to prior obligations, so i think there is a lot of distrust on both sides. they distrust us also. i think that is evident. i hope we will end up with a great agreement, very strong that demonstrates the diplomacy can prevail.
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at the same time, we need to be wary and we need to understand all details and know that this is something that is enforceable and will keep iran from getting a nuclear weapon. >> it has been a busy day, senator bob corker, thank you for being with us. senator corker: thank you. >> on the next "washington journal," jim it term it -- jim mcdermott discusses health care and challenges to the president's health care law. then congressman james ray nacion of ohio talks tax legislation, including a tax overhaul. after that, a spotlight on magazines features -- of time magazine on his reporting of an unknown armed blackman -- unarmed black man in south carolina and communities of color.
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washington journal is live every morning at seven clock a.m. eastern. you can join the conversation is your calls and comments on facebook and twitter. >> today, samantha power, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations testified on what will be state foreign operations spending can read you can see her testimony live at 2:00 p.m. eastern on c-span three -- c-span 3. >> were you a fan of the first lady series? it is now a book published by public affairs. it looks inside the public life of the first ladies. learn details of all 45 first
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>> we will have a roundtable, i thought we would introduce ourselves and tell us where you are from and all that stuff. andrew, let's start with you. and you -- andrew: hi, i have been taking classes here for three years now. i am going to the tech academy. i will graduate in may, then i will head to an apple is the naval academy to major in engineering. hillary clinton: good luck. >> i am a junior. started taking classes my sophomore year at kirkwood, an online class. i am currently in arts and sciences. and by the time i graduate, i
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will have 48 credit hours done. hillary clinton: wow, that is great. ok. diane: my name is diane and i have spent the last 21 years as a high school teacher. six of those years part-time as an adjunct instructor. hillary clinton: great. >> i have been a teacher. welcome to monticello. hillary clinton: thank you. [indiscernible] [laughter]
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drew: i am drew and i am currently taking biotech classes here. i have had a great time in this college experience. i plan to go on to do something with engineering. hillary clinton: great, good. >> i am a nontraditional college student. i am taking administration and management and i am also doing other programs at kirkwood. hillary clinton: i want to thank you for having me here. at the college and i just had a terrific for of -- tour of the advanced manufacturing laboratory, and talked with the instructor, the students, all former high school students who are doing work like what you described, the great opportunity to mix your high school years with college learning and college credits.
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that is as you move forward. and i am really pleased to be at a community college that is so visionary and effective in trying to serve as a bridge for people who are nontraditional, but coming back to add to their skills, all the way to high school students who are taking advantage of the opportunity and the cooperation between the college and the high school. it is something i want to see more of. this is a real model for how we can provide more continuous learning, starting in high school, but going as far as necessary. -- to help prepare young people, and all people, for the economy that is raising us. for we get started, i want to hear from each of you more information about what you see as the challenges that you face in your education, but the students and as educators.
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and the opportunities that you hope to be able to take advantage of. i want to tell you a little bit about why i am here. i think we all know that americans have come back from some tough economic times. and our country is much better off, because american families have basically done whatever it took to make it work. but i think it is fair to say that as you look across the country, the deck is still stacked in favor of those already at the top. and there is something wrong with that. there's something wrong with -- when ceos make 300 times more than a typical worker. what american workers keep getting more productive, as i just saw, and it is a very possible because of education and skilled training, but that productivity is not matched in other paychecks.
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and there is something wrong when hedge fund managers pay lower tax rates than nurses or the truckers and that i saw on i-80 as it was driving here in the last few days. and there is something wrong when students and families though deeply into debt to be able to get the education and skills they need in order to make the best of their own lives. and i look at the figures, the average iowa graduate from a four-year college comes out with nearly $30,000 in debt. and that is the ninth highest debt load in the country. and people are struggling on that. i met earlier today with a young student who is piecing together work, loans, knowing full well that he is going to come out
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owing a lot of money. so, we have to figure out in this country how to get back on the right track. and i'm running for president because i think that america and its families need a champion. i want to be that champion. i want to stand up and fight for people so that they cannot just get i come in but get ahead and they can stay ahead. a lot of people in the last few days have asked me, why do you want to do this and what motivates you i've thought about it and the short answer is, i have been fighting for children and families my entire adult life, probably because of my mother's example. she had a difficult childhood, was mistreated, neglected, but she never gave up. she was basically on her own from the age of 14 and she kept going.
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and my father, who was a small business man and believed you had to work hard to make your way into whatever you have to do to be successful, and provided a good living for our family. then i was thinking to about the lessons i learned from my church. you are supposed to give back. you are supposed to do what you can to help others. and that is what i try to do. we will have more time to talk about that as we go forward, when i went to law school and -- i worked for the children's defense fund, we went door-to-door, this is back in the 1970's, when kids with disabilities were basically shut out of schools and thanks to your great former senator, that is no longer the case. but i was knocking on doors saying, is there anybody school
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age not in school? and finding blind kids, deaf kids, kids in wheelchairs and i was able to work to try to improve education there and get more kids chances who really deserved them. and as first lady, fighting for health care reform, until we got health care insurance for kids. and as senator, dealing with the problems that face new york after 9/11 and trying to help people get whatever they needed, the victims'families and first responders. it was an incredible honor to do that. and as secretary of state, standing up for our country. when i look at where we are as a country, i am so absolutely convinced that there isn't anybody anywhere that can outcompete us, who has that are values, he could do more to provide more people the chance to live up to their own god-given potential. we cannot take that for granted. so, i want to be the champion who goes to bat for americans in
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for big areas -- 4 big fight big areas, and those who do not agree with me, we need to rebuild the economy of tomorrow, not yesterday. we need to strengthen families and communities, that is where it starts. we need to fix dysfunctional political systems and it unaccountable money out of it, even if it takes a constitutional amendment. and we need to protect our country from threats that we see and the ones on the horizon. so, i am here to begin a conversation about how we do that. and to hear from people about what is on your mind, with the challenges you see are and i
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will work hard to meet as many people, i will be rolling out ideas and policies about what i think will work, but i want it to be informed by what is actually working. and i want to build on what has worked, going forward. and to stand up against those who have a different vision of our country, a different one man i grew up with and a different one than i think what is best for everybody. what i would love to do is ask a few questions and hear from folks about their experiences and try to learn what you think would be ways of helping your young people get the kind of education they need, without having the personal bank be broken and put you and your family at financial risk. if i could start with you, you are going to the naval academy? that is a great opportunity. it is also one of the few higher education of such high quality that is free. the young men and women recruited into our military academies are given just a
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world-class education. can you maybe describe a little bit more about what you learned in the biotech classes you took and how you think that has helped you with taking this next step? >> we had all the computers in the lab, they said he will find this here, take everything of the computer and for back. it was very hands-on, it wasn't sitting behind a computer, learning how to go through this and that. reading from a lab look, taking notes, it was physically doing what you would do in the infotech field. we do a lot with the tech field because that is what a lot of the kids going into the academy
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look for, something with i.t., software design. it is something i would do, if i got a career in that field. and with biotech, i will probably not do too much with biology, but i took a because of the engineering background and -- anytime we do experiments, we write down these reactions, you take notes on everything that changes, any shape or form, and then it prepares me for the kind of engineering work, like being in a lab situation. it is the kind of thing i will see. and while there is a big difference between community college and public, there is no drop-off in quality. i am getting the kind of skills i would get in will get at the academy.
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hillary clinton: you sound like you will be well prepared for a rigorous curriculum that will demand a lot of you. i have friends who are either former or current midshipman and i know how challenging the study is. you feel like this has given you the hands on experience that you can transfer. jason, explain the idea about how the high schools coordinate with the community colleges, because part of the reason i am here is because this is a role model, this is not by accident that i ended up at kirkwood, because we looked for those models. lifelong learning, connecting us, the high school with community colleges, other programs, give me a sense of your experience with that? >> well, if you have a couple of
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hours. the partnership, the way it works, kirkland and their approach, they are part of a group, there are eight schools. our particular school is one of the smallest, maybe 45 kids in the graduating class. the biggest ones, maybe monticello, they have a hundred. when you look at it, we each look at each other like, had we have a multimillion dollar manufacturing lab in our school, you can do it. where do we send them. we can't put them in a car and drive there. what they did is they started having a conversation, at the end of the date, the kirkwood partnerships with the schools, we commit to sending -- and we work collaboratively, we share information about kids, and we talk about education, i would
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love to offer as many things in our school as we possibly can. i don't have all the resources to add 15 new teachers and 15 new programs. collectively though, we can. this is a perfect model. our kids, at the of the day the reason is, because it gives our kids more options and it is stuff -- you have a four-year career, does rigorous course works that can get them ready, and a segue for college, you are in college, you are not. he can have those conversations with parents, i went to this and i feel prepared and ready. throw them out there. and the other side of it is, we have audio tech, manufacturing they are directed toward a career. and conversations we have, the getty focus of what they want to do and we help them get it. now they have the resources to
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do that. >> and confidence. >> and we held in still that. -- help instill that. they feel confident and they are certified, now i want to go on and be a nurse, now i want to do this in the factory, and they know i am good, i can get a job. it is great. hillary clinton: so if you are enrolled in a local high school, it is free? >> right, and we are supported it is posted in very -- post secondary. it is great to see these kids get these jobs, when they are here they are helping each other and they bring each other to another level. they are ready to excel and to keep going. i love that these kids are around that. and every once in a while, -- and collectively we will have
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all kids like that. the kids get to know each other, they learn from each other, not just in their education, but they know what it is like to be in college. they meet kids from other you see someone. you know how it was in college and you meet kids are mother schools? hillary clinton: we called collect in those days. jason: we're still there counselors and principles are there. i am an example of that. i am off to college and i had a rough start. i did not have a support system so it is a nice segue for our kids. they learn how to manage their times. they get a career out of this. they go off and get a job.
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i'm a huge fan of what we are doing here. when you're trying to increase that rigor, without having to hire 10 new teachers. this is a great model. hillary clinton: i really believe that. true, tell me about your experience, you are still in high school. you still have another year. how did you end up here, did you hear about it, did a counselor tell you about it? >> we had meetings, they come back and share about it. kirkwood seemed fun, so many different classes, you get the college feel. it is different from owing to high school. being able to come here and participate in all this stuff, i am in of the audio tech academy. so, we get to do everything hands on. the first day of class, we are out working on cars.
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we are experiencing everything. it is great to get out and do stuff and not just learned about it for weeks on end and then maybe go good to do some of the stuff. so, it is great. hillary clinton: is it your experience working on auto, you have to learn a lot of math, computers, they were talking to me about with the computerized numeric control, trying to really use their math skills and upgrade them so that they can deal with all of the computerization? >> yes, cars are controlled with computers now, we do a ton of work with computers. that is valuable to know. in order to be certified, going on into the motor field -- >> that is the instructor right there. >> -- hillary clinton: how long have you been working here? >> six years. hillary clinton: that is great. i like this model, because young
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people who might be in high school, if they can get hands on and feel like they are doing something they love, that motivates them to learn the math, to learn the composition learn the skills that will help them. what i have seen happen in other places. >> this is for everybody's benefit, this was started six years ago. we have had great success with this, the partnerships we have formed with the steel people this -- especially in this area, but throughout the whole county service area. this is the first one that has proven successful that we actually went out for a bond issue and asked for the area to approve dollars to build more of these. this is the first one, the
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second one is in cedar rapids, the third in washington, iowa. and the fourth one will be the first in the nation where community college told on a four-year campus. this is a great partnership. last year, this year, we will serve over 500,000 high schoolers. you have to think about those high schoolers. some of them are first generation. they get a chance, just like these folks, to experience something different than high school. maybe at a different level. that is what we are -- because that is what we are about, and opportunity system. not only for our college age students, but also for k-12 partners and they have widely supported us. not only do they come to our centers, but we also send our faculty into high schools. so they get what is called dual credit, last year alone, if you talk about, if you come to kirkland -- kirkwood, those
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parents will say $2.5 million in tuition. if they come to kirkwood. if they went to iowa, the tuition is about twice as high triple if you go private. so, like she has, that will lower the student debt. it really gives them the experience. one of the best pictures we have for here, all of the students, they all come just in a football uniforms and volleyball uniforms and golf and cheerleading and everything, we take a picture. so that night, they go compete on the field, but here they learn together. it is a partnership. and i think they really have grown and had an opportunity to interact. another thing that we really think sets us apart, a lot of our cte courses are nationally
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certified. when they leave here they will have a certificate. i just talked to a young man in washington, he is a senior, he will graduate with us. he will have a certificate in welding. he has had five job offers and he will go out and make $40,000 his first year, out of high school. this land was donated by business person. hillary clinton: you provide the services and people. parents, business, they can see the results. we have got to rebuild that connection because in too many places, there has been a lack of
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appreciation of the importance of investing education at all levels. and being creative as you have been about how we provide more opportunities. i did want to ask you, when did you start taking courses here? ellen: i started my sophomore year, i took an online course. and then i actually started taking the kirkwood academy. arts and sciences i. i actually do not take a main course. i take it at the high school. i get credits high school english credit and college credit, too. hillary clinton: so you will have 48 college credits when you graduate from high school? ellen: yep. because i am also taking an online class right now. i'll take a course out here in the summer and i took one last summer. hillary clinton: are there many other students doing what you are doing among your friends? ellen: yeah, there are a lot of
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my classmates in the kirkwood academy with me but there are not a lot of people that will do summer courses on top of that and also online classes because -- this year, now at our school we started when can take kirkwood and -- the online kirkwood class. so i can get a lot more credits. hillary clinton: and you're still doing her high school courses or id substitute for your high school courses? ellen: the english credit is different. it is the composition i and ii class. you get college credit in high school english classes. usually if you would take a kirkwood class, you would get an elective credit. so you would have to take your english classes at the high school. it helps a lot. hillary clinton: what is next for you with all these credits? ellen: well, i plan on going to
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mt. marcy. and i think i'm going to major in business but i will have two years done. i will almost have an associates degree. hillary clinton: that is terrific. so then, you will only have to pay for two years of four year college. ellen: kirkwood and monticello high school, the partnership has provided me with a lot of opportunities. i'm fortunate to be a part of that. hillary clinton: you are walking advertisement for it, for how important this option is. diane, as an instructor how you see the benefit of these blended programs and what issues have you seen a rise? how would you make a better. diane: a great question. jason mentioned many of the positives that come out of the classroom. i think the best thing i see is,
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although i understand the premise of no child left behind, i do feel as fif by focusing so much on making sure everyone is proficiently sometimes do not stretch the higher achievers. that is where kirkwood has been fantastic. it has offered programs for students like ellen who excel in high school who needed extra challenge. and some times, not just a challenge in english or in speech but in the cte areas. so i think that has been a gap that this program is held fill. hillary clinton: that is an important point because i've been involved in education reform for a long time, not in recent years in an active way but certainly is a very interested observer. and i do agree with you that we have to do more to open up our education system so that we are meeting individual students where there are and where they
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could be with the right motivation the different opportunities for learning, the hands-on, for example. and i think we do have to have accountability measures, but not at the expense of the individualized learning that needs to go on. so how we do that in this gigantic country of ours, you can see how it can work through a school by school basis of the partnership between monticello and kirkwood and i'm looking for those good ideas. so that we can try to go further and provide them to more people with perhaps not the exposures that your students have had. so you have taught how many years? diane: 21. hillary clinton: 21. predominantly in high school? diane: correct.
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hillary clinton: how would you characterize your students today from the students you taught when he first started? diane: oh, another very good question. i think our students are bolder today. i think they are more willing to take risk. i think they are also more apprehensive about the future. 20 years ago, a set number of students believed, i'm going to go to college. and another set said, i am very content getting a job and working in the family farm. so that is what it would like to do. and we've seen a shift in education where there is a lot more pressure to go on and pursue an education. and a lot of that has come from the reports of financial gain. we see all these charts about with a high school education this is how much money you make. with a two year or for your degree, this is how your outlook
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and change. i think students see that. if i want to live this american jim, i have got to go to college. 00--- to live the american dream. i think it is a positive pressure that they want to challenge themselves to do more. i think they are also becoming very aware that these jobs where once they are able 20 year ss ago, that they were able to leave high school and get, now they do not have all the training they need. i think that is another gap kirkwood helps fill, some of that training so they can leave -- jason: i would piggyback on what diane said. i've been doing this for 16 years. what a scene as you are exactly right except one thing that is different is you have to -- kids have to be more precise about what their choices are. if you go back 20 years ago, you're looking at jobs were
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plentiful. the economy was great. hillary clinton: i remember. jason: there was someone he was helping lead us through that. and what i'd say it was kind of easy to get a four year degree. you are talking about college debt. that is what i spent a considerable obama -- considerable amount of time to save them onmoney. so she can make a decision to get 48 credits for the right reason. now ellen, man, i've got to get this credit because this gives me to mt. mercy. what happens when you do not know where you are going? we are having a conversation and apron i pray that they used to have when you are senior. the pressure is you have to be precise. that's good because rooms like this get them nationally
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certified. then you hav e to do a job of getting kids to that process of thinking about it. hillary clinton: that is another thing kirkwood does, which i wanted to ask mitch to explain. as i understand, you do a lot of financial counseling for the students here. a lot of outreach to help them. you started in high school. but a lot of people are still not going to know exactly what they want to do. and the end of at the community college. then they me continuing help. mitch: as you think about the value of a community college, there are a couple that come to mind. one is we are at lower cost so a student who does not have a clue about what they want to be when they grow up, they can start. that is the advantage of all of our centers. they cane come in as a sophomore or junior and they can think about-- find out they do not like -- i'm going to try something else.
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probably the best thing this does is, as you think about what we are delivering, and it is really, we're focused in on those little skill jobs which are plentiful out there were people where there is not enough people to take those jobs. so a lot of our academies focusing on those. we have over 20 academies. you can do pre-dental pre-engineering, you name it we have got it. there a lot of opportunities for students choose from. that's the value of having an opportunity system as you look at it. it is a great partnership we have with the k-12. every one of tehhem is involved in our concurrent enrollment which gives an advantage there. but i just, we well, we do one thing in eighth grade. we bring in every a greater into a financial literacy day through
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our workplace learning connection. and so that's -- i won't go into what that is. they come in for a day and they have they want to be when they grow up and everybody has to do that at the end of eighth grade. you have got to have a plan. i have a plan, is what it is called. hillary clinton: about being precise. this is what you say want to do and what you have to do to be able to do it. that's so important. i think there are a lot of families who are just as confused and apprehensive as their kids are. what does this mean and how do you do it? how do i even talk to my kid about it? the school and the college are helping to support the conversation going on inside the family's. tell me about your coming to school and what did you do before? anything else you would like to share. >> worked in homeland security.
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i decided on a career change. so i decided to come to kirkwood. i'm single mother of three kids. there is no way could afford anything other than kirkwood. i was allowed to work the work-study program, and i was granted apell grants, which have helped me tremendously through this. being a parent ofa that is getting ready to come to kirkwood next year, i have learned so much being here to help her get through the rest of it because college has become more of a a necessity than it ever has before, i think. in order, which is why i came back to kirkwood because i wanted to be proficient in a skill that i could use ina a variety of ways whic this administration does that.
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hillary clinton: does the work program, pell grant pay for it or do you have additional cost? >> so far. i am getting to a point where i may have to take out loans which i'm trying to avoid because i do not want a large debt when i'm done. when i'm done with kirkwood, i would like to continue on to a four year degree. hillary clinton: if that is what you want to do, that is a great goal. i fully support president obama's plan to make community college free, but even if we were successful in making the costs directly associated with going to college free, there all these other costs people have to figure how to way to pay. and so we've got to look at this from the perspective of the actual student and the students family. what can you afford?
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what amount of debt aree you willing to take on? how three make sure it is affordable and it can be paid back a stun your income so that you do not get pushed into an absolutely untenable financial situation right out of school? but then they are all these other costs. whether it is books or online materials. whatever you need to be able to actually go to the courses. and some people have told me that that becomes a bigger problem. that, like a pell grant covers most of not all of the community college cost. but a lot of students are working or they are single parents and they have all these other expenses that they don't have any help trying to pay. how do you thought about that? >> that is where the work study has come in, because it allowed me the opportunity to make money while i'm going to school.
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not enough to raise my family on. but eventually it will be. i'll get there. hillary clinton: i think that looking at education, it truly does remain not only the best pathway -- although not everybody has to do it exactly the same way. getting these national certifications that enable you to make $40,000 because you are a metal worker or an auto worker, but still, getting those skills and that education and getting the credentials is really important in today's global economy. we just have to get back to making it affordable and open for everybody willing to work for it. in many parts of the country now, we have the costs are so high. some of the for-profit schools. some of the scandals that have
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arisen where they take all this money and put all these young people and their families into debt. even if they graduate, they do not have credentials that will give them those jobs. or they can't graduate because the other costs are too great. so they dropout but they still have the debt, and they do not have the degree. so we've got to sort this out and take on those interests that want to keep the system the way this because it generates a lot of money and interest payments for them. and instead, get back to basis. how do we have -- an opportunity system? we have to start that in prekindergarten. we have to give more kids the chance to get ready. we we have to start at the very beginning where you have to realize you are going to babies brain by talking and reading and singing to that baby. my poor granddaughter, her first
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words are going to be, stop it. we know neurons are firing and connections are being made. by the time a child gets to kindergarten, much of the vocabulary's been formed. a lot of. their brain to element has occurred so we need an opportunity from birth through lifelong adult learning. we should be embracing that in coming up with the best ways to create the kind of partnership that you have here in more place s. and kind of flesh out the bad actors who are taken advantage of students and not really providing much in in return and lift up the good actors like kirkwood. how do you see all this? mitch: let me comment. besides what we do during the day, we have over 1000 students taking continuing ed. when you talk about lifelong
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learning, there is a lot of opportunity for everybody to keep their brain active. but i've been in education for a long time, 46 years. and i've always thought is we're not doing enough to provide this opportunity systems. not everybody is going to fit into that same mold. and we need to have different pathways that each one of these student has taken. we need to provide that in the most economical way possible. and so, when you think partnerships, you think collaboration, that is how we are going to get it done. we do that on a statewide basis. we got one of the taa ccp grants for $13.5 million in iowa to focus in on advanced manufacturing. all community colleges are focusing in on that. when you put the power of that together, i think you can make a difference. and the presidents of the
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community colleges in iowa, we put together a proposal that we just order to put down the road that would make it possible to have a we have here and there are a couple others of the state, but to put this opportunity in the entire state. so does not matter if you are in cedar rapids or monticello or the nrorth part of the state, you would have the opportunity to take some of the courses through the academy. so, we are slowly moving that ahead. being deliberate about it. but i think that is what it is all about. we all have to work together. we cannot let boundaries define us. hillary clinton: you are singing my song here. because i think we need a new vision, new paradigm of how we are going to do education that can get people excited again instead of what in too many places has become a battle with a lot of arguments based on ideology instead of results.
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there has been it annoys amount of research done in education. some really good data about what works. i think we should be focusing on that. the partnerships that result are what i hope will guide us as we look at the role the federal government should play, because there is a will for the federal government but the real work has to be done at the local level. starting in families, then schools, then committee colleges, four year colleges. i believe the country is ripe for that kind of conversation because i think there is a lot of frustration. you mentioned no child left behind. there were a lot of goals. we have learned what works and what does not work. we all to focus on the former. we have to figure out how to take a system that had so much potential and has produced so many positive outcomes for so many millions of people and just
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get down to really sorting out how we work together instead of arguing about education, how we were together, get everybody acting in good faith around the table and try to sort it out because it's clear to me that when you look at community colleges, those are uniquely american invention. that is why am really starting here because you talk about american education and american innovation and creating jobs, community colleges is something that nobody else in the world did. now, i've spent years telling people around the world, look of our community colleges, but a lot of people have not caught under the figure. until they do, let's make sure the committee colleges available and affordable and in partnership. and i'm thrilled to be starting this campaign in iowa going
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out, listening to people and learning from all of you what works, what you're concerned about, with the problems are but also, what's exciting about the futur and putting it all together so that we can -- if we really focus on how we recent respect each other again, trust each other again, listen to each other again work with each other again leave the ideology and the partisanship at the door and come in and say here are the goals we should have. opportunity system -- i'm going to steal that. for all our people started before they go into formal school and all the way through in the education arena and and all the other areas that really matter to middle-class families. that know that this a way forward.
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i'm grateful that you would take time off to spend with me. i want to give anybody a chance to say any last-minute concern or issue. andrew anything? since you are going to the naval academy, how you see our security and some of the issues around your service? drew: i visited for a week last summer. after meeting with a lot of the midshipmen there, i met with some that i just finish their first year. a couple that are about to go out and -- the future is bright. i'll get plenty of that the next four years. hillary clinton: ready to to serve your country? drew: more than ready. what about you, ellen? ellen: one thing that comes to mind with me it does not affect me but my sister has a disability.
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so in school, it's harder for her to grasp concepts. and so i was just wondering what were your policies that you have for children with disabilities? to help improve their education. because i think it would be beneficial for her if she had an opportunity in the summer to continue her education. she can continue to rise. hillary clinton: that is a important point because for many students, there is research that have difficulties learning. whether it is because of disabilities or other circumstances in their lives. they lose a lot of the ground that they gained during the school year because during the summer they do not have the constant stimulation, education that would give them the chance
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to keep learning and keep building. i think that we should do much more to realize the promise that tom harkin was a champion of to make sure that people, but particularly young people with disabilities, have the learning opportunities they need. in an opportunity society, not everybody learns the same way or at the same pace. there are students who learned with their hands, students who learn by listening, students who need a relationship with the teacher, others who do it online. we have got to start sorting this out. for students with disabilities, we want them to have a place in society that gives them satisfaction and provides an opportunity even to make a living or make a contribution. so i would like to see us explore more ways that we can use the existing system to provide, whether it has a
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community college or four-year college or a local school district that other people come to part of so kids with disabilities have that continuing support like your sister. i would like to see that. diane, what do you think? what other points would you like to make? diane: i think we are very blessed to live where we do. where education starting very young through high school, this community college. we have all these opportunities and we are fortunate here. i worry that not all of the american gets to experience this treasure we have. and i think the common core is a wonderful stuff in the right direction. of improving american education. and it's painful to see that attacked. i'm wondering what can you do to bring that heart back to
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education? what can we do so that parents and communities and businesses believe in american education and that teachers are respected and our schools are respected and are colleges are respected? and we offer a quality education to all americans throughout the united states? hillary clinton: wow. that is really a powerful, touching comment that i embrace. you know, what i think about the really unfortunate argument that has been going on around common core it's very painful because the common core started off as a bipartisan effort. it was actually nonpartisan. it wasn't politicized.
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it was to try to come up with a core of learn that we might expect students to achieve across our country no matter what kind of school district they were in, no matter how poor their family was that there wo uldn't be two tierse of education. everybody would be looking at what would be learned doing their best to achieve that. i think part of the reason why iowa may be more understanding of this is you have had the iowa core for years. u.s. had a system plus the iowa assessment test. i think i'm right in saying that i took those when i was in elementary school. the iowa tests. so that iowa has had a testing system based on a core curriculum for a really long time. you see the value of it.
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you understand why that helps you organize your whole education system. and a lot of states, unfortunately, haven't had that. so do not understand the value of a core in the sense, a common core y es,es, of course, you can figure out the best way in your community to reach -- put your question is a larger one. how do we end up at a point where we are so negative about the most important non-family enterprise and the raising of the next generation which is how our kids are educated? there are a lot of explanations i suppose, but whenever they are, we need to get back into a broad conversation where people will actually listen to each other again and try to come up with solutions for problems, because the problems in
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monticello are not the same problems you will find in the inner city of our biggest urban areas. that is a given. we have to do things differently. it should all be driven by the same commitment to try to make sure we do educate every child. that is why i was a senator and voted for, you know, leave no child behind because i thought every child should matter and shouldn't be you are poor or you have disabilities so we will sweep you to the back, don't show up on test day because we don't want to mess up our scores, no, every child should have the same opportunity. i think we to get back to basics and have to look to teachers to lead the way on that. you are the ones who have 21 15, 40 -- 46 years of experience. >> oh, gosh. clinton: i think you make a very important observation about what we need to be doing and what i hope i can do in this campaign
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and as president. stephanie? stephanie: i'm wondering what the government can do or what the schools can do to help people like myself, single mothers that are are struggling to better themselves and better their families. you know, when kind of advantages can they help with? clinton: well, i want to tell you about a program i started when i lived in arkansas. and when i was teaching at the university of arkansas. and i got to know a lot of the students who were single parents, predominantly women not all but mostly. and who were trying to raise their families, work and go to school and it was really difficult. so i started something called the arkansas single parent scholarship fund. and we raised money first in the county where i lived and where the university was and now it as
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statewide program in arkansas and people give money to supplement the needs of single parents. it is what i was talking about earlier. if you are a single parent and you have an old clunky car and it breaks down and can't be fixed, where are you going to get the money to buy a new car or get it towed here to try and fix it? either way, right? or you have childcare and your childcare falls apart, the person who you trusted to look after your kids is moving or are gentlemenning a different job. -- are getting a different job. where does the money from that come from? the single parent scholarship fund provides these kinds of emergency financial assistance and i think the last time i checked it helped 35,000 single parents go to college, either
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community and get their associate's degree, four year and get their bachelor's and it has been a lifesaver. for so many people you are on your own and trying to do this and manage it and it is not easy. i would like to see that kind of program available in every state and it is all donations. it is everybody just contributes because they want to help. and every county runs their own version of that. stephanie: even with employers if you could go out and get a full-time job and still go to school if employers were willing to work around the school schedule rather than say no, your hours are 9:00 to 5:00 or 3:00 to 11:00 or whatever. if they helped you out like that it would be such an advantage to people myself. clinton: and create more loyalty among employees. be rolling out a lot of different policies about how to
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help families balance work and family responsibilities. but business also has to step up because i think many businesses i'm not going to say all but many businesses could be more flexible and more understanding and more supportive of the stresses that are on modern families today. i think we should try to incentive size some of those behaviors so that business get some support for doing an approach that might be different than one they would prefer because it is easier if you just come at 9:00 and leave at 5:00 or come at 3:00 and leave at 11:00 and up with of the big challenges we are facing right now is that a lot of places there is no predictability for schedule at all. put yourself in the position you are in now raising three kids, doing your work and going to cal and suppose you are working at a place that calls you up the night before and says i don't need you tomorrow don't show up
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so you don't get paid or call you up and say i want you to come on tomorrow and the next day from 3:00 to 11:00 and you say i have a class at 6:00, to bad you have to show up. people are saying that is not right. there should be predictability in employ and flexibility on the side of the employer. we have to find a way to do that. drew? drew: i want to comment on how great the program has been because it allows you to experience different career fields. you can eliminate your options and finally tonight, out what you want to go to and spend the money to go to school for along with the job shadows and internships and give you a sense of what is out there and gives you a chance to get hands on
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experience and really get a good education on what there is as well as the programs themselves for the education from the program. clinton: it has really been a big plus for you, you really feel like it helped you not only learn skills but have a better idea of what you want to do in future? drew: yes. clinton: jason? jason: on the drive over we were talking about that. we are happy to have you in iowa. i know iowans are pragmatic proud people i have to use the best word i can is like we are just regular people and appreciate that you came here on the first stop and coming to kirkwood is huge and one request that i would have as you start campaigning and moving around is remember this kid right here because at the end of the day,
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you know, if you are a lawyer, if you are doctor, no one has ever done that job. so when you look around people go i don't really understand that. in education, everyone has been in school so everyone feels like they know when education should be. that is good and also problematic when trying to make change. one thing that i hope you focus on not only in iowa but around the country education is really i believe the key to everything we do. think about it, you are a teacher when you went to other cup interests and talked to them about what is going on you are teaching about when is going on here. your students were the world. you will be doing that as you move across state and country and help everyone remember that education is heart of everything we do and we need to really do a good job of that whether here at kirkwood or in a high school or college setting, i think education should be a big part of what you aring to and i know you are going to do that. clinton: absolutely. both of you mentioned heart
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about education and it really is at the heart of what i think would need to stand for and the values we need to pursue in our country and i just want us to trust and respect especially our teachers again so that we can get to where we need to go in terms of providing these pathways for opportunity. and you know we live in such a fast-moving world right now that you know what you decide to do drew, when you get out of high school may not be what you decide to do when you are jason's age or what andrew decides it do coming out of the naval academy may not be the same or ellen you may decide to use your education for something else. that is the beauty of our system. we do have that flexibility. and there is not many other places in the world that really do have that. but with that flexibility comes a responsibility to make sure
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that our young people are well prepared so that they can be on a trajectory that allows them to make the choices that are best for them as they grow up. and that is what i want to see again. i never doubted that. when i was, you know, growing up in illinois, i never doubted that if i got a good education that was preached into me every single day by my parents that i didn't know what i would be doing. i never thought i would be sitting here telling you i'm running for president. but i knew that if i got a good education i did my part. i had to work hard i'm not justcying around letting somebody else do it but if i did that this country held out so much promise for me. and it then would be up to me to try to find my way forward and make the decisions that were best for me and my family. that is what i want for
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everybody. i have this new grand daughter and i want her to have every opportunity but i wasn't every child in our country to have every opportunity and that is one of the main reasons that i decided to run because believe me i know that it is not going to be easy, that i will have to work hard to earn every single vote and get every caucus goer i can round up to show up next february but i just felt like i couldn't walk away from what i see as the challenges we face and i want to build on what we have done to get out of the terrible recession and get back on our feet. but we have to run the race. and i don't want people whose views about how we run that race that i don't believe are in the best interest of our country to be make the decisions. so i'm here and looking forward to traveling around the state and i think i will go to a few more community colleges and
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learn some more by talking to the people and seeing what you are doing and finding ideas that no only work in iowa but can work anywhere. so, thank you for having us. >> thank you very much. clinton: thank you very much. >> these weekend this span cities tour has learned about the history and literary life of saint augustine, florida. >> ponce de leon may or may not of been searching for the fountain of youth heard a lot of people said he was out for additional properties for the king of spain. and gold which is very decidedly true. we do know tha tjuan ponce de leon came ashore after searching for good harbor. took on water and wood. this area represents one of
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the few freshwater springs. and is also the location of the 1565 first settlement of saint augustine, 42 years before the settlement of jamestown was founded and 55 years before the pilgrims landed on plymouth rock. >> the hotel ponce de leon was built by henry morrison flagler. flagler is a man who is very little known outside of the state of florida but he was one of the wealthiest men in america. he essentially had been a co- founder of standard oil company with john d rockefeller. he was a man who always wanted to undertake some great enterprise. and as it turned out florida was it. he realized he needed to own the railroad between jacksonville and saint augustine, too, to e nsure guests could get to his
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hotel. so clearly the dream was beginning to grow on flagler. he was a man who had big dreams. >> watch all of our events from saying augustine saturday at noon eastern on c-span 2 and sunday at 2:00 on c-span 3. on april 14, 1865 at 10:15 p.m. eastern, john wilkes booth entered the presidential boxed and shot president abraham lincoln. the president died the following morning at the peterson house across the street from the theater. today, we will be live from the peterson house to mark the 150th anniversary of president lincoln's assassination with a wreath laying ceremony. that starts at 7:15 a.m. eastern on c-span 2.
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>> during this month, c-span is pleased to present the winning entries in this year's student cam video documentary competition. student cam is c-span's annual conversation -- competition that encourages students to think about issues that affect the nation. students were asked to create their documentary based on the theme "the three branches and you" to demonstrate how a law or action by one of the three branches of government has affected them or their community. evan gulock from royal oak high school in michigan is one of our second prize winners. his entry focused on the topic of health care. narrator: in america today, there are over 300 million people. in 2012, 15% of that population without health insurance. it's almost impossible to talk about the situation without discussing health care reform. so, let's talk about it but not from here in washington but from
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here ina place like my hometown. the affordable care act, or obamacare, took effect in 2014 in an attempt to remedy the lack of universal health care. the number of americans without health insurance was reduced by 11 million citizens this past you because of the aca. i talk to people from across the board from residence on the street to local business owners to pbs news anchor and congressman to paint a picture of the repercussions this law has had on the community. >> that has been great for us. we have not found any difficulties. the only thing was a got raised. >> my brother did not have a job and is able to afford health care because of obamacare. >> it is difficult. i not happy about the penalty. >> higher costs, less coverage. >> my experiences that it is not
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very affordable. >> it'g s great. and allowed me does not have money, to be covered. >> if anybody if that is trying to give people that cannot afford health care, health care it is a good thing. >> i am covered. i'm feeling pretty darned good. narrator: the general consensus seems to be that the aca has been mostly beneficial because it covers people with pre-existing conditions or under the age of 26. >> for us, personally that was a real boon. otherwise, we would have been without insurance for our two young adults. i'm grateful they figure that out. >> i'm grateful, too. >> there were several million people under 26 he did not have health care and who began to receive it through their parents. so many people did not have access to preventive care. there are lots of impact on individual lives of people. >> if i take it to the extreme
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i can say it is help me save my house. i was absolutely embarrassed to live in a country where people did not have insurance. there are lots of people who have come into very difficult time to medical costs to the point of going bankrupt. it keeps this neighborhood having sanborn as a neighbor. >> i have met so many people who are thankful for now having health care. it is a bit unbelievable that we were the only industrial nation in the world to not have anything like universal health care. narroaator: in order to provide health care for everyone, the cost has to go somewhere. while there may be a variety of benefits for the individual, the expenses may be deferred on to other individuals and employers which is having damaging effects on businesses which could place dangerous implications back onto the individual. >> with our comp day, we are finding that everybody is paying more money. >> as an employer, you have to
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make a call and say, do i try to cover this, do i try to absorb the cost increase? if i do, that means i'm not going to be able to give raises. it means i might not be able to take -- to pay bonuses this year. we are human capital business, 5700 employees. our costs and our assets are in our people that walk in and out of our door everyday. >> i do not think it is working out too well for a lot of guys that are making $15 an hour and they are paying $200 a week to get the family in short. >> we cannot raise our prices. our health care costs are going up. we're passing that on to the employee. >> you have asked me about whether there has been a learning curve. i would call it more of a learning cliff. >> the problem with that is it is not sustainable. >> as a country, we have been
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trying to find our way up that cliff. >> if i'm not investing in my employees, i have to would track. if i'm not able. to grow, i am not able to retain talent it is a vicious cycle downward. >> in washington, it is a controversial subject, and the republican majority in the house has tried to repeal or undermined it over 50 times. >> obamacare was passed by exploiting the lack of information given to the american people. >> two steps forward and one step back. i think we're making progress. i think people are wrapping her arms around it and seeing benefits. it just not has been a smooth as one might imagine something like this would be. but it is a first. it is a huge undertaking. narrator: though there are areas of improvement, for this committee, the affordable care act is a step forward. >> i cannot imagine anyone should worry about whether they
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are going to go bankrupt or lose their home because of a medical situation. i think they have turned that around for me anyway. >> it is one of those aspects of life that affects everybody. since health care needs are universal, health care, should be universal. >> you se people acting in a waye -- that can't be good for anything, not good for your work, your attitude, your family. if people are relieved of that fear that mental health or physical health or dental could cause him problems, i think they can be better people. >> there are different impacts of the affordable care act depending on which populations you serve. so if you have an urban core that is impoverished, you might be bigger impact. it depends on where you look at who you talk to. that is the case for most massive pieces of legislation that there is no uniform success or failure. >> there was less controversy
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over social security and over medicare. now the vast majority of seniors would never think of wanting medicare to go away. >> we have to revisit the assumptions of how do we make the affordable care act " affordable." narrator: the results of federal laws and actions can be seen everywhere and with everyone in one way or another. it affects your neighbors, your family, your friends and perhaps this is something from here you keep in mind when we go back here. >> to watch all of the winning videos and to learn more about our competition, go to season.or -- cspan.org. tell us what you think about the issue this student addressed in their documentary on facebook and twitter. >> today, samantha powers, the u.s. ambassador to the united nations, testifies before a house appropriations committee on 2016 foreign operations
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spending. you can see her testimony live starting at 2:00 eastern on c-span 3. >> were you a fan o c-spanf's first lady series? it is now a book looking inside the personal lives of every first lady in american history. based on original interviews with more than 50 preeminent historians learn details of all 45 first ladies that they these women who they were, their lives, ambitions, and partnerships with their presidential spouses. the book, "first ladies historians on the lives of 45 american women" provide stories of these fascinating women who survived the scrutiny of the white house, sometimes at great personal cost while supporting their families and famous husbands, and even changed history. c-span's first ladies is an
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inspiring read in is available as a hardcover or e-books are your favorite bookstore or online bookseller. >> live today on c-span," washington journal is next. at 10:00. the house returns for speeches. at noon, the house takes of legislation related to the irs and begins work on a bill that repeals the estate tax. coming in 45 minutes, representative jim it are made of washington on the way s and means subcommittee on health discusses the repeal of the medicare and challenges to the president's health care law. at 8:30, congress and james renacci of ohio discusses tax related bills including the prospects for tax overhaul. at 9:15, our spotlight on magazine features "time"
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magazine on his reporting of the shooting of an unarmed black man in north charleston, south carolina and the relationship between police departments and communities of color. host: the house will pick up nine bills related to the irs into the irs targeting conservative groups. eight republican senators including ted cruz and marco rubio voted against a bipartisan bill tuesday. it did pass the senate hours before the cut was to take effect. president obama had to charlotte north carolina to address issues relating to
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