united says there won't be. we know from the trans and history the police power follows the federal decisions. so, it is incredibly important that we recognize the implications and make a difference. in my church, we have a wonderful document from the 1990s on the pastoral care of homosexuals. it is respectful. but we will not and cannot recognize any such thing as marriage between anyone besides a man and a woman. if the state tries to compel us to do so, we must and we will resist. >> look. i don't think anyone at this podium wants to see people denied the right to work, the right to live, to have housing. we respect the dignity of every human being. we don't hate anybody.

but we believe what is really at work here is something far worse then the coercion to do something, but to really bend your heart, comment the line if you want to be acceptable. if you don't want to be a big hit. if you don't want to be a hater. when you say gay rights, it sounds great, but my understanding is every american has writes. i am not sure what gay writes means. -- what gay rights means. we don't want to see a late beat up, harass, her. he never fought and trained many calling a person i know to be gay and name. but we can't challenge our names about the nature of the behavior. that is what we are really being asked to do. the whole culture has been asked about today's and say this is right and good and appropriate and it's not. rights for human beings absolutely we support them for

, all of us. the concept of gay writes is pregnant with all kinds of political and social implications which we simply can't agree with. >> i want a tug on the hearts of you who disagree with us for a moment. i like to consider myself and i are both pastors. in my opening remarks i said, the vast majority of homosexuals want to live in answer to their choices and that is what i want to do. the step of the court is the first that these two lawyers have articulated how that works. we are here to defend the rights of unfettered truth. we are here to defend the rights of all biblical preachers to speak to the issue of sin, but

more importantly offer the vehicle of salvation. it is a hard matter for us driven by the fact they showed. you may reject god's word. it is quite all right. i don't deny me my first amendment right to propagate the gospel and don't force us to cut off fully believe to be the answer that can change the young lady whose whole life has been tormented and offer them the solution we believe is jesus christ. that is the foundation that underpins why i'm here today and why i will die if i have to. for what i believe. >> it is real funny that we stand here and talk about the gay community and marriage. as many support marriage, there are many that don't support gay marriage. i have many that e-mail me privately to tell me to continue to make a stand.

they don't support it, but if they do voice their opinion, they will be blackballed. many in hollywood do not believe in marriage. what is the guy's name? the designers. they shut that down. ellen came after them and everybody came after them and said we are never going to buy your clothes. that is what we are facing. we are going to make a stand. we are not going back to slavery. that was many years ago. we have a voice today will uphold what we believe is what the lord has said that marriage is between a man and a woman. i received death threats from the gay community. i received nasty e-mails. you can google my name. you won't find one bad thing i've said about the gay community. why do they come after me?

they know change is possible. they know they were not born gay, but i believe in the last days christ is going to return. i am not surprised by what is happening out here. as a matter of fact i'm excited because we will see jesus. we will continue our walk with christ and continue to make a stand and i am blessed we have all of these folks behind me standing but that's because i am an example that people can change. i lived the lesbian for 17 years. the day i get married i will shout from the not tops. i am so excited. for now the lord has a single. before i die, i will be married and i will show people you can have a nice marriage, successful marriage. god has healed me from the

inside out. change the not happen overnight. this has been a process. change is possible. >> we will close the formal part of our press conference. if you have a question, we are glad to entertain. i think all of you. god bless you all. [inaudible] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> the national press crop hears from chuck grassley. he is the chairman of the judiciary committee. that is live at 10:00 a.m., here

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it is the people's property. the people of tennessee valley and the united states and hundreds of thousands of a girls that -- hundreds of acres that one can recreate on. >> hydroelectric power is generated using the force of falling water. forming an artificial lake a reservoir. electricity is needed, some of the water is released. gravity causes the water to fall . the falling water spins to turbine. it converts the water energy into mechanical power which is located at the end. when in the turbine spins, it turns the shaft which goes up

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the tennessee valley authority has been one of the greatest federal projects. >> to watch all of the winning videos and to learn more, go to c-span.org and click on steenkamp. -- click on student cam. tells what you think on facebook and twitter. >> next a look at issues. from washington journal, this is 50 minutes. paul: we will talk politics and specifically progressives and the election. thank you for joining us, cenk uygur. what is a young turk? cenk: the largest new show in the world, 32 channels, largest network on you, about 120

million views on youtube on facebook. to your actual question of what a young turk is, it is a young progressive looking to overthrow the established system. that is what we are looking to do here. washington is enormously corrupt. we looking to change the system. paul: once you overthrow the system, talk about 2016 for us. cenk: as things stand today, the number one issue is getting money out of politics. and to get money out of politics we have affect doubly lost our democracy. the study between 1981 and 2002, they studied 1800 policy issues and said that public opinion has zero effect on policy. if it has zero effect on policy, that means we do not live in a

effect on policy pundit -- public opinion which means it is not a democracy. it is something else. state level, democracy does exist there p are getting money out of politics is imperative. you are not function in a society where voters count. once you get beyond that issue then there are other things. net neutrality, an incredible rich people came to our side. you have got to fix the banks. that system is intensely corrupt and that would be the next thing up on our priority list. host: we will put the phone numbers on the bottom of the screen for our guests as we talk politics here. how would you describe a progressive? cenk uygurguest: someone who believes

in change and that we can expand freedom together. whether it is blacks in america women in america, gays in america, we are banning liberty. folks have fought against liberty and luckily almost always lost. host: you will see a piece recently where there is a sketch of the former secretary of state and a declared presidential candidate and it said, left of hillary, you -- the left to hillary: you are a phony. guest: telling goldman sachs they are misunderstood. on the board for a long time telling multinational corporations are so lovely for

us. pro banks, pro-war, what part is progressive? i do not think she is remotely progressive. host: who is your favorite alternative? guest: i will not make news. elizabeth warren. if she gets into the race, she would have an excellent chance of winning. i might even say she is a favorite if she got into the race. everyone says you cannot beat hillary. she was beaten into thousand eight in the same exact way. you would have to the five to say hillary clinton is inevitable. she is basically making the same mistake today she made in 2008. going into a democratic primary and taking it for granted. going with all of these positions. if you had, you'd probably have helped isis. host: why hasn't senator warren gun into the race? guest: i do not know her

personally. i cannot get into her head. probably decent human beings feel a little -- she is humble and modest. she probably thinks, no, mi really going to argued to be the president? i just got into the senate. she has got to be more like barack obama. give me a little more politician on that, more ambition on that. host: let's hear from hillary clinton last week talking to workers at a small furniture factory. hillary clinton: american worker productivity has continued to go up. american workers work longer and harder and more productively and the vast majority of workers around the world. but it has been difficult to turn the increased productivity into increased rate -- increased wages and increased benefit. in some cases, we will have small companies if the margins are too thin. it is hard to do that in some places where they have big

companies, they just choose not to care stock buybacks and increase the wages and salaries of people who contributed to productivity. looking at the range of different kinds of companies because some companies have the cash and make decisions that lead out their workers and some try to keep the doors open and be successful and stay afloat. guest: that sounds great. my real question to her, and i hope reporters asked her, is yes, but what are you going to do about it? she has no policies that would affect any changes along those lines. are you going to close corporate tax loopholes? president obama and republicans say, sure, if we cut corporate taxes. there is no need. it widens their advantage.

just get rid of the loopholes. american people would love you. they're dying for a populist candidate. it is good talk, but you have got to back it up. never done anything in her career to go after corporations or effect change in income inequality. host: democratic caller, mary. caller: paul, i am so glad you are hosting today with cenk. i sure do miss that guy. i wish everyone would pay a little more attention to bernie sanders. if you listen to him, he says the solutions, the problems. hillary is just another run of the establishment. thank you so much for letting me talk to my dear cenk. host: let me add to that. this nbc news headline,

basically why aren't progresses excited about bernie sanders? guest: i think he is right on most issues and i think he is terrific and i wish we lived in a country where he had a better chance at the white house. the reality is it is not that progressives are not excited. it is the mainstream media so thoroughly dismisses bernie sanders that it is hard for him to break through. the great thing about a presidential race is you get a lot of free media but i'm not sure he would get this same free press others would. host: let's go to our caller. are you there, edmund? roger in pennsylvania, a democratic caller. are you there? caller: elizabeth warren, i'm a

huge supporter but i do not think she could win. i just want to make a statement adolf hitler got elected through a process and after world war ii, they decided they have to put rules and regulations on a democratic process, so they came up with equal time loss. ronald reagan and equal time loss, that is the quanzhou the country is in right now. i seem to be the only one who really seems to realize that. there has to be a rule and regulation on the freedom of the press to stop people being brainwashed in washington. democrats are brainwashed and republicans are brainwashed. that is what i want to say. thank you. guest: there's actually no reason to believe that.

look at how dave beat eric cantor in that race. first time and house majority leader ever lost in american history. he did it by not saying he would be more conservative or give more advantages and tax cuts to the corporations, but by doing the reverse. he ran a really populist campaign. it is popular by definition. elizabeth warren is incredibly smart and can run it in a balanced way. to your point about other kinds of balance, were both sides have equal say, i prefer to get money out of politics and get public financing of elections. if you have that, we sign their checks and they work for us. that way, and even playing field. let's have a real battle of ideas and not of who is getting bribed more than the other side. host: trade into all of this.

senator warren and the president has had a good back and forth lately. a recent interview with msnbc talking about some of the criticism his trade plan is getting. president obama: i love elizabeth and we are allies on most issues but she is wrong about this. let me be more clear about trade generally and why this is so important. i am not somebody who believes in trade just for trades sake. i come from a state, illinois devastated by manufacturing and many small towns. we had a stretch of a couple of decades where in part, because of globalization, you had manufacturing moving in search of low wages. no environmental standards or labor standards or trade deals have not always work for us. what i have also always believed

is that it is important for us to be able to export our goods to ensure our businesses -- it is good for workers, american businesses, and small business. when i came to office, i said, what kind of trade deal ought we see, to make it work for america? we know we would have strong enforceable labor standards strong environmental standards we would make sure they have access to our markets like they have access to ours. we decided to start trying to craft a new kind of trade deal. 95% of customers for u.s. business will be outside of the united states. if we want to comedic -- compete, we have got to be there. host: with that comes this

headline, stop making untrue trade claims. they write that senator warren told the president on saturday making untrue claims about his opponents and himself. it was called in the president to medially declassify a pending trade deal on the transpacific partnership hit what you make of the back and forth, a supposedly you'd question mark -- suppose if you'd --suppose it -- su pposed fued? guest: i am a elizabeth warren's side, based on the facts. it is a fact that the transpacific partnership is being negotiated in secret. president obama claims other side -- otherwise, it is almost a bald-faced lie. i say almost out of respect.

if it is not a secret, why doesn't he just show it to us? he cannot because it is secret. conservatives should hate every part of this deal. it gives away national sovereignty so national corporations can take us to a world court to get rid of environmental regulations. they can perhaps the toxins in the rivers and ranking waters in arkansas, oklahoma, texas, and you cannot do a thing about it in your state. menu will give fast track authority to president obama, and yet the republicans want to do it because they do not believe in their ideology. they believe in crony capitalism. it is a giant giveaway to corporations where they are top donors. they do not work for us. they work for the donors. in that same study, special interests had a direct correlation to public policy. when will we wake up that we do

not own this country anymore and they do? we have got to take it back. host: the democratic caller. go ahead. caller: good morning cenk. it is a pleasure to speak with you and i have been following the young turks for many years. i would like to ask you how you feel about the future influence of television advertising. dvr's are very common. people are watching the programming to the internet bypassing television advertising. if television advertising ceases to become a major influence how does that affect how campaign financing will go forward and the money will influence the politics? guest: that is a great question. it has some positive and

possibly negative ramifications. let me explain. people are always wondering why the mainstream media, major cable news outlets do not give you the heart of the story which is, if you are in politics, what are these based on? reality is, they are based on what the donors and lobbyists want. a study over 20 years shows that to be absolute fact. why do they never say on television? an enormous part of television's's revenue stream is money in politics. they spent the money on television advertisements. television will not tell you the truth because they are not invested in that. they are invested in the exact opposite direction. let's talk about the mainstream guys who run on advertising. the downside of the internet getting so strong and some interviewers going there is eventually they will figure out they have got to put

advertisements in digital space and when they do, we have to make sure we are there when they get corrupted. money is a powerful weapon and cool. when that pours into the digital side as it is beginning to now, we have to be careful not to be swayed in the same way television has. host: an independent caller named james. mine to you. caller: what three changes would be the most important to end the corruption he described earlier? guest: great question but i honestly do not think statutory is the way to go here. i think you need an amendment. if you pass any statutes, the supreme court can just come in and say no, money does not corrupt politics. you must get in amendment to go above the supreme court it we have an entire organization dedicated to this. i started wolfpack to chase down and hunt down other packs and end them.

the whole point is you can go around congress and you do not need this corrupt congress. you go to the state and ask for a convention to get an amendment. that way congress is irrelevant and you get an amendment and get all money out of politics could we can and will fix the system. you have got to be bold and strong and go in that direction. i believe in a big change. host: our guest is cenk uygur host and founder of “the young turks” and founder of the wolfpack. how did you get involved in all of this? guest: i used to be a lawyer and hated it. a show on cable access in virginia. after the first show, which i think most people found ill, i walked off the set thinking, i

love this and i want to do this the rest of my life. then i went into radio and tv and 13 years ago, we started the young turks on sirius satellite radio. 10 years ago, we started an online video. we are the longest running daily stream on the web. no one has had a stream running live every day as long as we have. once i got to online video and we saw an explosion in growth, first on youtube like i said earlier, no one faced look and hulu and roku and all these outlooks we knew we had found a better way. all my life, i had to do with program directors and radio in tv who did not know a thing about connecting and audios -- an audience. it turns out, we are at over 2.5 billion views. apparently, we had a bit of a

winning formula and did no what we're talking about the be honest with your audience. if you're honest with your audience and you serve them, politicians, powerful people they recognize it. host: what is the goal progressives should have in 2016? guest: they have got to be a forceful as possible starting immediately. the hope resumption hillary clinton will walk in the primaries is a terrible idea. the whole point of a primary us to have a real battle of ideas within the party. after the primary, it is too late. then they will scream, what do you want to do? you want a republican in office? they're right about that. if you give me a choice between hillary clinton and a maniac like ted cruz, of course i will choose hillary clinton. there is a real difference between them. having said that, getting progressives in the primaries is the point of the primaries.

start now. push for real trade deals, not trade deals that give away our sovereignty and do not strip us of our rights, said environmental and labor laws, let alone getting money out of politics. host: tim from new england. are you there? caller: i'm calling from england. i have been following with interest cenk's debate with sam harris on internet recently. i'm three hours up the road from paris. my question is, what should progressive's attitudes be toward the relationship between the state and religion and have we got that balance right when it comes to religious expression? where should the balance be struck? guest: this is an interesting

story to had a debate on sam harris on our show that lasted three hours with no commercial breaks. in the old days of television they would have said you are mental. do not do that and nobody will watch. over 850,000 people have watched online. it is a testament to come if you do things right, you trust the audience, that they are smart they will actually come. to the heart of what you are asking, i am an agnostic. sam and i actually agree on at least 90% of the issues. i think church should be nowhere near state. i always ask people who think they should be, which church? lutheran, methodist, catholic protestant? which should rule us all? in order to protect religion and the state, it is to be completely and utterly separate. -- there -- it needs to be completely and utterly separate. we have radical christians in this country who believe in

things like armageddon and that jesus will return, michele bachmann talked about it last week. she was briefly leading among the republicans last time around in 2012 as their candidate. there is a significant portion of the country and people watching right now who believe it would be fantastic if we had armageddon where almost everybody in the world died and their beloved jesus came back the prince of peace. they do not recognize the irony and the lunacy of that statement. they would like to make it happen. we have got to make sure we stop that. host: kevin calling from iowa, a democratic caller. welcome, kevin. caller: thank you. i love “the young turks”." i heard you mention ted cruz, a republican. the reason i love the young turks is because you put the conservative news channel kind

of to their point that you basically put them -- what i want to say, exaggerations and stuff. back to ted cruz, who do you think will be the front runner in the republicans and since 2014, the democrats then go out in book -- and vote, do you think the front runner of the democrats, do you think they will get a round or candidate and hopefully get their candidate back in the white house, or do you think a republican will get in the white house. guest: they're making a mistake that is understandable and 95% of the time in congress, the person with more money wins. this is the heart of the problem i have been talking about all

show. in the case of the presidential race, it is an interesting exception to the role, because you have so much free media covering the presidential race that the money jeb bush will race will be more than the others and it will not be as big a factor or as decisive. jeb bush excise exactly zero republicans in the country. after mitt romney, they are exhausted with picking the same old establishment republican. i think it jeb bush is far more sane than the other guys, but if you ask me right now, it is tough to call. last time around, it was much easier. but this time, i think rand paul is the most likely to win. i know that is somewhat bold and i know he has got huge downsides in terms of politics, let alone policy, but if you ask me, i think he has got a better chance we are on the democratic side, for >> say, somebody run, everybody run. run against hillary clinton.

of course you can beat her. barack obama beat her with the same strategy. tell people you will do something about income inequality and the banks, and they will vote for you. hillary clinton they know for a fact will not do any of that. they have not represented a change for decades, the clinton family. host: photo dude writes this is all about congress on twitter. reality is you cannot accomplish any agenda. campaigns are flat promises to what you make of that point? guest: it would be lovely if the president of the united states tried. it is an excuse they make for barack obama all the time. i'm not unaware of congress passes blocking him. of course. anybody can see that, but i think it makes an enormous difference if you put bold effort. president obama recognizes that

marijuana has positive health effects, is less dangerous than alcohol. he used marijuana when he was younger and it did not ruin his life because it did not get him arrested like it did for millions americans. so what will you do about it? nothing, cannot do anything. of course you can. you might consider that a small issue. millions of people have been unjustly imprisoned throughout the country, but that is an example of how republicans twist my arm and i cannot try to increase taxes on the rich a little more. they think obama raised taxes on the rich. he only increase taxes by about 6% when you talk about overall. but 94% of bush's tax cuts got made permanent under obama. they were not permanent under bush. they are now permanent because

of president obama. that is what we talk about when we say he is not a real progressive. host: you said earlier, somebody run against hitler clinton. governor o'malley of maryland talked about a flanking maneuver that is causing headaches for clinton on the left. they write that they are -- he is using the closely watched and long anticipated 2016 watch to raise his own profile ahead of his own likely entry. he sees on specific policy issues, including same-sex marriage and international trade deal. this is to raise questions. the attacks were somewhat more thinly veiled than others. difficult topics, not part of her plan for a gradual rollout of the campaign. what you think of martin o'malley and that kind of strategy? guest: god bless. it is definitely the right strategy. i'm not sure martin o'malley is

the progressive candidate we are looking for, but i like that he is making the effort. i like the issues he is bringing up. i won as many choices as possible. i do not know why brian schweitzer stepped away. he has got to step back in. he is an interesting governor out of montana or that brings up a lot of issues. jim webb is an interesting person. he is a little more right on some of the issues but he is earnest and honest and in some ways populist. obviously worn, sanders, grayson, come all. let's have a real debate in this country. host: chuck, ohio, a democrat. caller: good morning. how are you guys doing this morning? i want to ask you about the power the right has and the lack of backbone. msnbc is weak politically. fosse's got their 24-hour

machine out there. where is the key goldman of our time? ewan at scholz are the only two guys out there that have any kind of strength a voice in that population. your thoughts on that? thanks. guest: it is not an accident strong voices get weeded out of the national conversation on television. if you have got a strong voice saying get money out of politics, that could cost tv stations billions of dollars. so it happens gradually over a period of time. in my case, i had a very direct conversation. but the reality, you shouldn't worry about it at all. tv is dying. right now, the average age of the cnn audience is 63 years old. the average age of a fox news viewer is 68 years old. the average viewer of a bill o'reilly viewer is 72 years old. they guy is doing his show out of a senior citizen center. for the young turks online, i closer other, 120 million

viewers a month. 40 million unique viewers a month. and 78% of them are under the age of 35. we have the young. as someone in the alley industry told me, we decided "the young turks" is important because of our -- because our young kids never watch broadcast news and never will. they watch online news. don't worry, the calvary is here. we have strong progressive voices and they are growing online. host: as you talk about young voices, marco rubio's feature why he might have a chance with young voters. let's talk about young voters than. -- then. what is the message for them to get them out to vote? guest: i am always amused when republicans think they are going to energize young voters like,

hey, guys, let's do more corporate tax cuts. they stop the rally, your children, whatever, we have to go help the rich did [laughter] i know that it works with a certain percentage of the population because of the brainwashing the worn again republicans, so it is not like no young voter ever vote republican, but how do you get young voters energized? they are trying to get students because a lot of students don't have in state ids. that is not an accident. the republicans don't want them to vote because most young voters go democrat because those voters are not a part of the establishment. they don't have them out -- have the money, the power, the privilege to protect -- host: let's go to john. columbus, ohio. a democratic caller. thank you for calling, john.

caller: yes, i would like to get the guest's opinion on the problem with gerrymandered districts out here. in ohio, it happens. elegant have managed to get control of things and democrats can get their foot in the door. the house of representatives or the state legislature. but it is hard to figure out -- of course, maybe the democrats but it loses everyone's confidence in the system. what is your opinion? what is the answer to this? guest: you are exactly right to point that out. gerrymandering is an outrage. you are also right that it is outrageous if it benefits republicans, it is outrageous if it benefits democrats. the representatives of the politicians in this case. ok, i would like to carve out this particular contain district

because i know high have a better chance of winning that. the reality is unfortunately -- the problem is i start impact -- start apac -- . if you could solve the gerrymandering issue today, i would fight like hell for it. but one to get an amendment to get money out of politics then you open up the whole world. people think that we -- oh, the money and the power always rules the country. that is actually not true. from fdr in 1978, we got social security, medicaid, all anonymously possible -- popular areas. progressives were superstrong in this country because at that point, voters mattered. in a system like that that actually existed in this country, we could end

gerrymandering of districts. but you have to get the money out. otherwise you can't win on any of these issues because they drown you on money. host: south dakota. independent collar. caller: yes, back to tpp. i am trying to form an opinion on it. what has bewildered me here somewhat -- i don't know if i pronounce her name right -- your name right. say it again? caller: in turkish, the c is pronounced like a t. don't sweat it. caller: ok. anyway, what i'm getting at here is that you are talking about the secret negotiations -- and it is all secret. yet, if a secret -- i was wondering how you got information that you are saying that the corporations would have

to be sued in a world court. in other words, that is supposedly a part of the negotiation there, but you are saying negotiation secrets. so i'm wondering where you got your information. guest: that is a great and logical question. we got it through leaks. this is what they don't want. and this is amazing. this part, you don't have to rely on leaks or anything along that line. what we know is that corporations are allowed to see the negotiations, but for a long time, our representatives when a lot -- were not allowed to receive -- to see the negotiations. even the congressman and the senators, they cannot bring staffers with them, they can't take note. they just look at it and try to memorize it and then leave the room. that is on the after the absolutely demanded that right. whereas corporate heads can go

in and sit there all day long. who do you think runs the country? isn't that amazing that our representatives can barely look at a document, we can't, but corporations can look at all they like. that is because at this point -- you have to get used to that factual that we can change that fact. to your point, all we know about it is through people who did see the documents telling us and the press. host: just under 10 minutes left with our guest. how did progressives, in general, feel about what is happening in the world right now? guest: so, i agree with barack obama's stance before the 2008 election. i am not against all wars, i am just against dumb wars. so afghanistan in the beginning made sense. but if we are going to stay there for decades and decades

it doesn't make sense. iraq never made any sense. they never attacked us on 9/11. look at all the things that flew out, including isis. i don't know why other reporters don't think dick cheney and donald trump child -- donald rumsfeld are saying -- you open up a pandora's box. you create an anarchy. you started a sunni-shia civil war. and out of that, rose these monsters. so we have got to be careful. yes, from time to time, force is required. but that time should be rare, not all the time. we have the biggest camera ever built, the greatest military the world has ever seen. and because of that, all we see is nails. syria? you bomb it. iraq? you bomb it. iraq pakistan, afghanistan.

we have been accident may killing civilians, perhaps thousands of them, when they were in pakistan. this is how we turn the world against us. it is not like we don't have answers. what are the correct answers? the greatest thing we have ever done set of the united nations, do the marshall plans, rescue our former enemies. we took two countries that were at war with us enter them into our greatest allies. the two biggest economic powers of ted is that it -- powers outside of the united states for decades and decades. after defeating them, we then helped them. you do it out of practicality because it works. host: what do you think about drones? there's a headline that says there's huge support in washington, despite everything we are hearing heard guest: -- we are hearing. guest: drones are a tool.

it depends, what do you characterize as terrorism? unfortunately these days, every enemy of ours is called a terrorist. who is your target and how are you targeting them? there are personality strikes and signature strikes. personality structure when we know we are bombing. signatures drugs are we literally do not know who we are bombing. we are doing it based on cell phone information, based on their workers -- there was a lot of guns in the area. based on that, we would bomb the hell out of texas. i don't agree with drone strikes where we don't know who we are killing. i don't think that is too much to ask for that we not do that can of drone strike. host: jason, florida, a democrat. hello, there. caller: good morning. i want to know if some one has talked about the state of puerto

rico because this is a very top hot topic in the island. even recently, arroyo did a documentary about that. i want to know if your guest has an opinion about puerto rico and what he should think that they should talk about in the 2016 election. host: what do you think should happen there? caller: in the 2012 election, there was a question in the election. they said yes or no, and 53% of the residents in the island voted for yes. but congress has done nothing about it. guest: puerto rico. look, that is a tough issue. i have a lot of opinions, as you can tell, about a lot of issues. but i have to study that one a little bit more. i was in favor of puerto rico deciding their own fate.

if the next step is for congress to take action, then i would be in favor of taking that action. host: a tweet here, ask him if the press covers up for the president. the role of the press. guest: so, this is really interesting. it is not like the press is interesting on president obama. there are all these attacks come as you point out. but what is interesting is that fox news attacked the president on things that he did an excellent do. like the irs scandal is not a scandal. the targeted liberals just as much as the targeted conservatives. that is what they are supposed to do, autodesk. so that is not a real scandal. what of the go after the real scandals? the fact that the financial companies were the largest donors to president obama in 2008, then he was incredibly soft and continued the bailouts. why aren't they complaining

about president obama helping the banks? they are not complaining about that because the republicans also do that. so they ignore the real problems with president obama, which exit could do real damage to his presidency, because they agree with president obama on all those issues. then the press follows along and says, the republicans are screaming about irs and benghazi, so i guess i have to cover those things. host: sarasota, florida. a democrat. good morning to you. caller: hi, good morning. i was just watching your program and i saw a program talking about the silos in this country. i think there is a solution for the salary problem. after a here you work in a place, you will be entitled to -- [indiscernible]

that means if you don't make a lot of money well, your salary is going to stay there. but if you work in a place and you get $1 million at the end of the year, you can share some of that with the employees. because i saw a lot of places when they got the big names -- say you are the hearts of these companies. the heart of the company died little by little when their ceo take all the money and left when something happened, like have

been 10 years ago. host: i got the point. let's ask our guest. guest: in some ways, what you ask for has happened in some instances with stock options. and some people have gotten quite wealthy if they have worked at the right company. but i think you brought up an interesting point that is related, which is small business versus big business. they don't have the same interests. big business has enough money to legally bribed the politicians and crushed their competition. i don't think there is a constituent in this country that would benefit more from getting money out of politics than small business because capitalism works against them. so there is great entrepreneurs throughout the country, and the all caps health we had a clean honest system where you had a free market system. by the way, "the young turks" is a small business. i know how it is to compete against large businesses.

in terms of helping their employees, there is a lot of different ways to structure that. but i think the german system is really interesting because labor is half their board. so the company has to think about their workers as an important constituency. in america, labor is not considered at all on the board. so the board who makes the decisions focuses the benefits on the executives rather than the workers. host: let's hear from joe in massachusetts. hey, joe. caller: good morning. you made a statement that hillary clinton has never done anything for working here -- working people. back in the early 1990's, insurance rates were going up 10%, a level percent. in 1994, just by starting the dialogue, the insurance rates went down 2%. sure, she didn't get the legislation passed, but it gave the workers a break. we went in to talk to the employer and they said, oh,

yeah, we will give you a raise. guest: this is why i love the dialogue. and this is what we do online. you have to keep me honest in you are right. yes, health insurance rates dipped a little bit, then they went back up tremendously. but that is not hillary clinton's fault. she really did try. you have to give her credit for that. of course, she has done different progressive things in her life heard is a progressive enough? no, not remotely. visit centerleft? i would argue -- is it centerleft? i would argue no, she is a little center-right. she has done more things that in my opinion, protect the establishment and protect the status quo. the status quo has been awesome for the clintons. host: what do you make of the shootings in this country, all the news about the police and folks in various cities? it seems like there is a

headline every day. guest: i think that there is a problem with the culture of policing in america. so, it is several fold. first of all, they are taught don't take any risks with your life. if you have any question at all shoot first, ask questions later. and that is systemic. it is throughout the country. i'm sorry, but cops are supposed to take a risk for the left. that is why they are heroes. it is like saying -- a fireman saying, what, are you crazy? i'm not going to run into that burning building. i know, but you are a fireman. so fireman do not say that because that is their jobs. so taking a risk with your life is the job. i can't have you shooting a 12-year-old in cleveland within two seconds of arriving. i can't have you shooting people within four seconds of arriving at i can't have you putting people in a choke hold and when they say you can't breathe --

they can't read, you don't treat them as human beings. you need to actually serve the community. let's be honest, and the current culture of policing in america serving the community seems like a joke to them. the idea is, no, i am here to straighten them out. right? when you have an antagonistic attitude like that, then you are suppressed the community doesn't trust you. look, it is not an easy job. no, we get it, man. you are going to go into domestic abuse situations that are volatile. but that is a tough job. we needed to take that responsibility seriously. right now, i don't think they are. host: to vermont now, tony is calling in on the independent line. hello, tony. caller: good morning. cenk, it is great to have you back. i think the greatest event that

has affected america has been citizens united, which is giving corporations a greater voice. we have a lot of problems in this country immigration, health care, infrastructure. the one solution would be -- if that happens, we will move. this has become the united states of corporate america. thank you. guest: you are absolutely right about that. when we have a convention to get this amendment to get money out of politics, we will accept all ideas. if you ask me, my favorite version of that amendment involves public financing of all elections across the country. think about the insane system we have set up. where we allow incredibly rich people, often national corporations, which are just a moral robots, no actual person

in america believes that corporate's -- corporations are a human being. so, if those guys are writing giant checks to people, does anyone really believe they are working for us? they are working for the people who write the giant checks for them. if we write the checks, that is what public financing is. people say that would cost a lot of money. are you kidding me? it is the tiny a tiny faction of what they give away in capitalism. the oil subsidies alone are up to $40 billion a year for the most profitable countries in the world. if we did public financing at a fraction of that cost, on oil subsidies alone, it would be well worth the cost. i just want to be clear about this. our liberator -- liberal friends, we would all get to do proposals for how to clean up the corruption on this one issue of getting money out of politics. host: that being said, the b is

very much out there. a billion dollars. we have seen the headlines about hillary clinton perhaps having a goal. what does it billion dollars into this process? guest: it means that they are in a race to simply flat out bribe our politicians. in this town, we are so immersed in how the system currently works that we are having trouble stepping outside and taking a look at it. if you said to anybody, you know what, in zimbabwe, and russia, some rich oligarchs are going to give $1 billion to one party. we would say, look at the corruption. look at how corrupt the russians are. they give a billion dollars to their politicians and all he does is work for that oligarch. it is obvious in any other context. it is also obvious in this context. there are not giving $1 billion for the health.

also, any of the -- these candidates. it is that the system, by definition, corrupts you. when you take $1 billion from someone, trust me, that makes a difference. you work for them, you don't work for us. host: this tweet do you have an actual political agenda? so far, all have heard is a rage against the machine. [laughter] guest: we are enormously specific. there are a lot of groups out there who talk and 10 rally's. our intention is to get a specific amendment to clean up the politics. so, if you ask me, oh, clearly -- hillary clinton versus barack obama. that makes differences on the edges. what makes joint differences is an amendment that fixes the system, gets money out of politics. the only generation of americans that has not amended the

constitution is ours. let's get our democracy back. host: cenk uygur >> a look at the debate on the transatlantic partnership. with reid wilson of the washington post. a discussion on the role of government whistleblowers. we will be joined by daniel was over. -- the pentagon papers. a lot of short talks about oil and gas line safety and how the government expects them. we will take your calls and look for your comments on facebook twitter. washington journal's live here on c-span. the white house correspondents association hosted its annual

dinner in washington dc. the attendance -- the attendees included celebrities, we will bring you our complete coverage today, beginning with the red carpet arrivals up until the remarks from president obama and entertainer, cecily strong. at the international consumer electronics show, we spoke to university of california stamp representative cicilline: -- you have to bring together these two organizations and cultures to get to that space. that is what they're going to do. they do not know anything about

clinical process or liquid trials. -- clinical trials. we are trying to impact the space. >> tonight on the communicators on c-span2. >> next a hearing on hydraulic fracturing. it is the process of injecting water, sand into rocks in the ground. concerns about the method. it is just over two hours.