necessarily iraq and syria. we need to focus as the gentleman talked about, their concern with the european foreign fighters, right? so our concern is not just iraq, syria, not just europe, not just australia. we need to take a large look at every threat and every potential threat. and then with regards to, as you mentioned, you made a great point with regards to criminal organizations, right. it's not to say that criminal organizations are necessarily funding terrorism or not. i think we can probably talk for a long time about that right? but there's certainly avenues by which they overlap. they're certainly facilitated by things where they overlap, they can allow for that to happen whether they're ideologically together or not.

>> let's go to the back, please. >> kyle with the brain corporation. in regards to the technological sophistication you touched on, social media campaign, have you considered given attention to crip toe currencies as a mean -- crypto currencies as a meens of financing. >> yes. just kidding. absolutely. you know, we're much like -- much like matt talked about a moment ago about prepaid card, the crypto-currency, we as the united states government are starting to really take a look at the crypto currencies. i won't say starting to take a look, but we're taking a look.

any source of fund, isil or any other terrorism group, whether it's a criminal organization international or domestic, we want to see how they're funding, and any avenues whether it's a cash courier or traditional financial institutions, as well as the crypto-currencies. crypto currencies allow a great avenue to transfer funds internationally with little or no oversight in many cases. so we are aware of that. we're tracking that. any support that anybody here can give us is more than welcome. i'll just touch on matt's point earlier with regards to prepaid cards. that's obviously another avenue as well that we need to take a look at. it's very difficult to track. it's very easy to buy one of these prepaid cards, load money on it, you don't have to physically move that. you can email, call or contact someone in another country or halfway across the world and provide them with the pin numbers on that prepaid card and easily move hundreds or thousands of dollars without any effort whatsoever. >> saudi arabia offered a concrete example of individuals related to isis solicitting funds on twitter, moving the

conversation to skype, instructing people to buy prepaid cards, get back on skype, provide people in the region, the isil associated people work those numbers, tremendous amounts of value moves, not a dime moves, nothing to the formal financial system it's a tremendous vulnerability. >> quick question. you just talked -- excuse me. you just touched on the idea of charitable donations and as we saw with al qaeda, do we see funds being transferred through charitable donations with isis? is that a big thing? small? what are we seeing on that line? mr. roberts: i think whenever we talk about charities, i hate to

broad brush the answer right. so i think what we need to look at is hundreds of thousands of legitimate charities but much like any other international organization, it allows for the avenue for people to fund not just terrorist activity but also criminal activity. so obviously, we're cautious when we -- with regards to looking at charities because we don't want to necessarily paint a broad brush. but any avenue as i mentioned numerous times already, any avenue by which individuals are able to move money, whether it be by charity, business, front companies, etc., other money exchanges, would be an avenue for us to look at. but provided the intelligence takes us there, i guess i would caveat it. >> as a former government official i can be more blunt. there's absolutely no question

that there's an increase in the abuse of charity in the past few years. i would aa boomerang effect post-9/11. we had done so much work not only cracking down on bad charities and abuse of charities but working with the charitable sector, the vast majority of which is not just legitimate but very, very praise worthy. financial action task force, and if you track the cases i have in the u.k., france, there's no question we're seing a rise in abuse of charity and it's just logical. people want to do good and that gives an opportunity for cover for not good things. it creates a vulnerability. it brings us back not to just 2001 but before, with the banks trying to improve their filters working with charities again to

protect them from being easily abused in the context of a real humanitarian catastrophe. which brings me to -- here we go. right over there in the back, behind the pillar, or in front of the pillar. >> hi, western union intelligence unit. western union is moving more toward a qualitative analysis of data and doing less with thresholds and taking large swaths of data and trying to see what's happening with it, with what has been discussed already. my question is, you mentioned having fewer sars, more quality sars, but if we're seeing activity that appears legitimate, like in the opening statement we talked about how these self-funded and smaller dollar amounts look legitimate and they can look legitimate. if we're working with large sets of data and we don't have the intelligence you do have how

can we provide you fewer more quality sars without that intelligence for us? mr. roberts: that's a great point. i saw an amazing presentation by western union the other day at treasury. my goal is not to have fewer sars it's to have more quality sars. so whether that means we still have 800 sars because they're higher quality that's a great goal to have. i was just using it as an example, rather than having more that are maybe based on less intelligence and less information that's out there does not give us the greater picture than having less that are more directed. my goal is not to have less sars, i'd like more sars, but the goal is really necessarily that they're of higher quality, that we're able to push the information to western union and other folks what to look out for and i commend western union for how proact i they are in their

financial analysis. mr. levitt: yes. >> good afternoon, thanks for the presentation, agent roberts. agent kain with homeland security investigations. a tfos representative years back. following up with mr. romano said and asked, a conundrum is we're trying to counter the financing of isis, is what is touchable? with al qaeda it was a different structure. you could touch them around the world through our partner, commercial sector, banking sector. what do you think is touchable out of the total assets they have? do you have a frame of reference? is it 10%? is it 50%? mr. roberts: that's a great question. i don't have a specific answer for you. with regard to the money they have in their holdings i'm former i.n.s., so we kind of reversed roles here, i guess.

i don't necessarily have a distinct number for you as far as what we can tackle and again as i mentioned earlier i think what it comes down to is really that whole of government, whole partnership approach of using every tool we have in the toolbox, whether it be through d.o.d. authorities to tackle their oil and other things, whether through sanctions as well to go after that, but i think the -- much like in other whether we talk about transactional organized crime, for the money they keep within their area of control it's difficult to break that, right. it's when, as matt mentioned it's when the money starts to seep out and go outside, that's our avenue in which we can tackle it. mr. levitt: yes. >> thank you very much. do you have an estimation about the proportion that other

sources of financing for ex-habal -- for example hawallah of money that's flowing through the isil? mr. roberts: i don't have a i don't have a specific number to give you. hawallahs arun avenue, as they historically have been. as we touch on virtual currency i think it is one avenue through which they are able to transfer that money versus a lot of new avenues. now we have the introduction of electronic hawallahs essentially. >> [inaudible]

i don't know what you're talking about. hawallahs, what are they? >> a prepaid card is a card where you go to your cvs and buy a card. it can be a visa card, it can be amazon, and there is value on that card and you can move the card or give someone the number and they can use it anywhere in the world. this is you go to a store, you give money and get this card. that card now has value on it. you can give someone on the other side the world on a phone call or e-mail. that is a number and they can use it as cash anywhere in the world. i go to cvs and there are probably 30 different types of prepaid cards including carts that are not tied to a particular store. you can use them anywhere.

hawallah is a way of moving money without actually moving it. it plays an important role in the world economy. it involves trust. it has been used for good purposes and abuse by other purposes. or is a lot of new and old. -- there is a lot of new and old. crowdfunding, the financial action task force report cited this as a concern. i will read it to you. isil has manipulated virtual social networks, encourage donations, and conducted a marketing campaign in a manner that is consistent with industry standards established by major crowdfunding companies. most people read that and hear vulnerability. i'm former fbi and treasury intelligence. i hear opportunity. in some ways it presents an

opportunity. mr. roberts: crowdfunding, crowdsourcing, the online campaign much like those utilized by legitimate charitable organizations or any other organization you might see in order to raise funds for their organization. isil is used through social media. if you don't want to travel where you are not in a position to travel, not in a position to join the fight, then you are to do what you can to help the organization. by doing so they establish mass marketing campaigns by which they are asking folks to fund them through social media sites. i agree with you. they are very similar to other social media campaigns. it gives us an opportunity to

identify and target other individuals. mr. levitt: yes, sir. >> i have a question about your private sector partnerships, mainly banks. i understand the primary mode of communication are activity reports, which take a fair amount of time to compile and get you guys. when you were doing matters of financial crime and fraud, the urgency may be less so than terrorist act. can you comment on relationships with the banks related to urgent financial matters like that? mr. roberts: the world is flat right? there is a lot of information out there. thanks, and i can talk about western union and our bank partnerships are proactive in what they do. in the cases of an attack, when

it occurs, charlie hebdo for example, the banks are proactive in examining their holdings and quickly pushing out. her relations with the bank, obviously we need to obtain records, follow it there is other information. we have a good relationship with our partners. they understand the urgency and they are able to prioritize and get us information as quickly as they feasibly can. i have absolutely no ointment comes to an urgent matter -- no concerns when it comes to an urgent manner. that is part of this whole campaign about why we are doing this outreach, to allow them what current and emerging threats in the future are so they understand the threat of the urgency.

mr. roberts: follow-up in the front? >> thank you. i think it is important to point out when we hear a lot of sharing the same threats that the u.s. treasury would in one hour and 40 minutes provide 60 leads to the french authorities while the hostages were held in the supermarket. that is a matter of public record. i think we stand together on the same threat and complements to the united states and treasury in particular. mr. roberts: that's an amazing statistic. -- mr. levitt: that is an amazing statistic. me ask you a thought question. they were asking earlier about

cve concepts. i'm wondering if there's a parallel we can draw to the cmt finance area. within our efforts in the united states, we do not have a one-size-fits-all approach to the country. the three pilot projects we have across the country are very different, west coast minneapolis, boston. there are different types of activity that we see the in these areas, even though so much of the radicalization is happening on the line along the borders. geography matters in some way. we see these phenomenon manifesting themselves slightly differently in different places. in the finance world, a lot of this is happening online. the world is flat. do we see different types of activities, different types of groups made prominent in different parts of the country? mr. roberts: that is a great question. before i answer, i want to make a point when we talk about

partnerships and we talk about the outreach that we do. the bureau has numerous outreach programs, not just in the terror field but across all of our programs. the domestic serial alliance council and several others are fine programs with which we share information. this is not a one-way, fbi stands here and provides information and everyone leaves at the end of the day and we move on. this is a dialogue and every session i have 10 at since i got tfoss, i have taken away from that. i want to clarify the point that we do outreach as much to learn as to teach. i think that is a good leeway into your question.

much like we had talked about we have talked about it for a few years now. there is no one picture. whether we are talking about cve, counter threat finance, there is a model. we get caught in a trap looking at one model and we may miss another. i think the threat of radicalization, the threat of funding terrorist groups, we need to have a broad-based view and look at all the options. we are not seeing necessarily a particular community doing one way and another doing it another way. it is across the board. sometimes people will borrow money from friends and family not knowing why they need that money. sometimes children take money from their parents. mr. levitt: we are all focused on the islamic state for all the

right reasons. if you think about what is going on in yemen as we are focused on the collapse of that state and the hutzi takeover, there are reports that al qaeda in the raid written -- in the arabian peninsula are taking advantage of that conflict elsewhere to prof her there. i wonder if we are so focused on isil that it could give an opportunity for traditional al qaeda groups to be a little under the radar and take advantage in a finance area to the benefit. mr. roberts: it is something you know from being in the bureau before 9/11, through the present. went to be confident that we are

looking at the threat in front of us and you're not looking to the threat to the left of us or the right of us. as her deputy director said last year, he touched about our threat review process, by which we take a look at all the threats, all the international terrorism threats. we take a look at those groups and look at the threat they pose. we look at their potential to act and we combine those and come up with a banding, a prior tour is a -- a prioritization of the acts. just because they have ice will financing does not mean we are taking our eye off the ball. we need to continuously be alert to that because often we can take attention off of other groups. there are others who are threat based in the fbi, that

necessarily -- looking at that portfolio or other threats as well. >> raising funds and certainly historically have raise funds? they don't traditionally target us. if we could take a break from the moment from the cutting edge isil, what about the old school? what about hezbollah? what is the status on their activities? mr. roberts: we continue to look at all of our groups. i have worked those groups in the past myself. the primary part has been isil.

we have not taken our eye off the ball. we have talked about hezbollah. we have seen the last few years attacks they have successfully conducted as well as plotting overseas. it raises a real threat to us and citizens overseas. we need to concentrate on everything, not just isil. mr. levitt: jerry roberts has tremendous expertise and tremendous knowledge. please join me in thanking jerry for taking the time to be with us today. [applause] thank you all for taking the time and have a great weekend. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> today in washington dc, the 34th annual national these officers memorial service was held in front of the capital honoring the families of

officers killed in the line of duty in 2014. president obama spoke at the event and gave thanks to those who gave their lives. here is more from the president. president obama: we cannot erase every darkness or danger from the duty you have chosen. 5 we can offer you the support -- we can offer you the support that will make you safe. we can make the communities you care about safer as well. we can make sure you have the resources you need to do your job. we can do everything we have to do to combat the poverty that plagues too many communities in which you have service. we can work harder as a nation to heal the rifts that still exist in some places between law enforcement and the people you

risk your lives to protect. we owe it to all of you who where the badge with honor -- who wear the badge with honor and we go into to your fellow officers who gave their lives as a measure of their devotion. most of all, we can say thank you. we can say we appreciate you and were grateful for the work that you do each and every day. >> that was just a portion of what the president had to say earlier today at the 34th annual peace officers memorial service held in washington ec. you can see the president's entire remarks at 8:00 eastern on c-span. >> here are some of our featured programs this weekend. saturday at 10:00 a.m. eastern

the internet and television expo in chicago for what consumers can expect in the future. speakers include comcast chairman and ceo roberts. president obama's at georgetown university discussing ideas on how to a alleviate poverty in the united states. on c-span 2 on book tv, we are live from city hall in gaithersburg, maryland, for the gaithersburg book festival with david shiffler, former representatives, davis and martin frost, and former obama advisor david axelrod. sunday at 9:00 on afterwards, president of the american constitution society carolyn fredrickson on the impact of employment laws on women and their working families. on american history tv on c-span 3 at 2:00 p.m. eastern remembering the liberation of nazi concentration

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>> one more week on capitol hill for the house and senate before they go out for their memorial day break. we are joining -- joining us is born french. she is a professional reporter with politico. the highway trust fund. the house passed its bill dealing with the patriot act renewing expiring provisions. what is the status? >> that is more complicated than the house. the house passed it with an overwhelming number relating to the freedom act but that has not been picked up in the senate. mitch mcconnell wnats a clean reauthorization of the patriot act. there are critics of the patriot act and the bulk collection of american data who want to see their usa freedom act where a

bill like it put on the floor instead of a straight extension of the patriot act. >> center rand paul is on the opposite side of this issue? >> two members that are on opposite sides. a senator said they would filibuster if they put out a clean extension of the patriot act. he is worried about the privacy concerns that the government can collect data from americans without warrants or proper notification. he could filibuster that bill if it came up on the floor. mitch mcconnell is pushing heavily on republicans to find the votes needed for a clean reauthorization so they can move on to other pressing deadlines. >> tom corbett is calling for a two month extension. what is the status of the funding for this short and

long-term? >> the funding will run out. the current authorization for the highway trust fund and set the end of this month. lawmakers are on a strict deadline with the upcoming construction season. there needs to be money to keep infrastructure projects going forward and building. what is happening in the senate and house, a two-month extension of that authorization to give lawmakers more time to figure out how to pay for a long-term extension. everyone wants a longer extension of the highway trust fund. it has a sticking point of how to play for that pay for it. democrats are at 50 -- point of how to pay for that. democrats are sticking on a gas tax. >> what do you think we can expect in florida and will the senate finish this by the end of next week when it is supposed to be out?

>> it is a contentious week in the senate and less so much in the house. you will see democrats who want it but they went with senator reid earlier this week to stop it from going forward until the was currency debates in other bills. now that it will be on the floor you are going to see democrats railing against that tracked authority. the qualms they have with the upcoming transpacific partnership will make it a contentious week. there is no guarantee that trade is dealt with by the senate. they might not get to it. it is all very much in flux. if it does pass, it goes to the house or the future of the tpa. is much more uncertain. -- it is much more uncertain. >> hillary clinton was supposed

to testify before the select committee on benghazi as early as next week. the chairman of the trade committee says he will not allow her to testify until certain documents are turned over. >> he really flipped the switch and turned attention away from hillary clinton and onto john kerry, her successor at the state department. he is saying without the documents they have requested in a letter in a subpoena over the last year, you can't have hillary clinton testify because he does not have the evidence he needs. she is insisting that she will only appear before the benghazi panel one time. his fear is that new evidence comes out when new documents are made available and he will often the opportunity to question her. now he is saying without these documents she will not be appearing and tries to amp up pressure on the obama administration to get those documents. >> we will continue to follow

you on twitter. >> thank you so much. >> the new congressional directory is a handy guide to the 114th congress with color photos of every senator and house member, plus bio and contact information and twitter handles. also, district maps, a full doubt map of capitol hill, and a look at congressional committees, the president president's cabinet, and others. it is $13.95 at the c-span store on www.c-span.org. >> a crewmember aboard the amtrak train that derail this week said she thought she heard the train's engine be struck by something. the national transportation safety board held a conference detailing more findings on the fatal derailment. after conducting

interviews with three crew members on the train. this is 25 minutes. robert: goodness afternoon. i realize we are later than we said we would originally be. the reason for that is around 4:30 we started getting news about interviews and other things that we felt that were important for you to know about. we delayed it so we could report that information to you. we've interviewed three crew members today and i want to point out, i'm going to recapture some of the things that they have said, but i want to point out that these crew members have been traumatized through this accident that they were in. and they've not fully recovered from their injuries.

we did interview the engineer today. it's been widely reported he's 32 years old. he had his f.r.a., federal railroad administration, required physical just last month. our investigators found the engineer to be extremely cooperative. he was accompanied by his lawyer which is not at all unusual. and the engineer told us to contact him if we needed anything else. so again we found him to be extremely cooperative. he recalls ringing the train bell as he went through the north philadelphia station that's not a normal station stop for him, but he's required by regulation to sound his bell. may have said horn. he's required to sound his bell as he goes through -- past the

station stop. and he did that. he recalled doing that. but he has no recollection of anything past that. he felt fully qualified and comfortable with his equipment and he reported no problems with his train handling. and when asked, when asked, he demonstrated a very good knowledge, very good working knowledge of the territory. speed limitations, things like that. he began his railroad career while he was in college as a brakeman. he started with amtrak in 2006 as a conductor. and in 2010 he became a locomotive engineer. since 2012 he's worked out of new york city and he's been on this particular job for several weeks. he works five days a week, it's an out and back trip for him.

new york, washington and back to new york. five days a week. he said that he did not feel fatigued nor did he report any illness. as we reported the other day the train has three conductors. the conductor is not able to be interviewed as he is still in the hospital. however we did interview the two assistant conductors. assistant conductor number one is 39 years old. she was hired by amtrak in 2011 and she was in the fourth car, which is the cafe car. she stated that before departing washington, the entire crew conducted a safety briefing where they went over all of the speed restrictions along their intended route.

she reported that it was a normal run through philadelphia, everything was normal up through philadelphia. and she said she could hear the transmission of the locomotive engineer, as conductors carry radios and they're frequently talking to and listening to the locomotive engineer. so she could hear the transmissions from the locomotive engineer. she reported that approximately three to four minutes after departing philadelphia she said she heard the engineer talking to a septa engineer. she recalled that the other engineer had reported to the train dispatcher that he had either been hit by a rock or shot at. and that the septa engineer said he had a broken wind shield

and he placed his train into emergency stop. she also believed she heard the engineer say something about -- she also believed that she heard her engineer say something about his train being struck by something. this is her recollection and certainly we're going to be conducting further investigation of this comment. our investigation has not independently confirmed this information, but we have seen damage to the left-hand lower portion of the amtrak wind shield, that we have asked the f.b.i. to come in and look at for us.

we oftentimes rely on the f.b.i. for their technical expertise in such areas and they will be there tonight looking at this particular damage to the amtrak locomotive. of course when the engine went through the impact, the wind shield was shattered but there's particular damage there that we want them to look at for us. we've secured the track image recorder from the septa train to see what we can learn from that. moving forward, right after she recalled hearing this conversation between the engineer and -- her engineer and septa engineer, she said that she felt a rumbling and her train leaned over and her car

went over on its side. she said they were not able to self-evacuate and they waited for the emergency responders to get them out. she said she had about 15 passengers in her car. we asked what her relationship working relationship was with the -- with her locomotive engineer. she said she had worked with him a good bit and said he was great to work with. she said he was always offering to help her with her job. now let's move to the assistant conductor number two. he's 35 years old, he was hired by amtrak in may of last year, just a few days before the accident, he had celebrated his one-year anniversary with amtrak. he was in the seventh passenger car, that of course is the last passenger car, and he reported having about 40 people in his car. up to the accident he reported no problems other than some

radio problems, radio problems with his portable radio. he said that sporadically he could hear, but not sure that some of his transmissions were going out. at the point that we're describing, at the location of the accident, he said he felt shaking then two major impacts. he said that interior seats disconnected and he attempted to contact the amtrak dispatch center, but does not recall receiving a response. he assisted with the evacuation of engine passengers until he was instructed by emergency responders to go seek medical attention on his own. he said he had not worked much with the amtrak engineer for the accident trip, but he did say he

was happy with the engineer and described the engineer as being very professional. so what we've just described is the information that allowed us to delay the press conference so that we could report that information to you. we've got some other investigative activities that we will fill you in on what's , been going on. we've mentioned through the week a 3-d laser scanner. we've done a 3-d laser scanning of the locomotive interior and exterior. we've scanned a passenger car so we can compare the -- that to the damaged cars. and we've also documented interior safety features in all cars. we've continued the testing of the signals and the signals circuitry. basically as the tracks are

being rebuilt, our signals go along to check the continuity of the circuitry. over the weekend we plan to reassemble the train set as much as we can, to put it back together, connect the brake lines and conduct a brake test and that will take several days. over the course of the last few days, some of you have asked what would we do if we could not talk to the engineer? and how would we resolve it? one of the things we've called for in the wake of a failed train crash in 2008, where 25 people were killed, including the engineer, the ntsb issued recommendations for forward facing image records and inward facing image records, so something that would get a video

image, video and audio image of what's going on inside the locomotive cab, as well as the outward facing cameras. - of course this train did have an outward facing camera. we also feel it's important to have the inward facing cameras. that issue -- that recommendation was issued in 2010 when we completed our investigation of that accident in california. and the f.r.a. has said that they do intend to act upon that recommendation. there's a lot to be done. i think over the last few days we've gotten a lot done. but this will be our final press briefing on scene. future information on this accident will be coming from our press office in washington, d.c. in just a moment i'll ask peter

to explain that process. but basically i think you can follow us on our web page, www.ntsb.gov. and also follow us at twitter. i think you know our twitter handle is @ntsb. i want to emphasize that even though this is the final press briefing, certainly there is a lot of work that needs to be done and will be done over the next several days while our investigative team is here in philadelphia. there's a lot that needs to be done and will be done. but anyway, that's the end of my prepared remarks. if you would please raise your hand, i'll call on you and identify your outlet. questioner: you said the route is from new york to washington and then back to new york? was he coming back? that was his second journey of the day?

robert: he does. that was his -- the answer is, it's one round trip. so he starts in the early afternoon, new york, washington, back to new york. so it's one round trip. questioner: how much time is between that? robert: how much time is between that, we will have his schedule. i don't have it immediately in front of me. we are here to get information that will go away with the passage of time. his schedule we can get next week. but we want to do things like train interviews and things like that, crew interviews. yes, sir. questioner: what else can explain the acceleration of the train? robert: the train does not have -- i flew airplanes for a long time. we had airplanes that had automatic throttles, trains do not have automatic throttles. it's a manual input. we're going to be through the event recorder, through the black box, if will you, we do --

one of the parameters recorded is throttle movement. we'll be looking at that to see if that might correspond with the speed increase. we're also looking for any kind of mechanical anomaly that could cause the train to excel or a without input. questioner: [inaudible] -- you have been able to get any of his toxicology reports back, blood work things like that? , are there any other video sources of the train that may show you what he was doing before the crash? robert: have we been able to get the tox reports and is there any other video that we may be able to learn from? let me address the video issue first. we're always surprised and happy that there are video sources that come from unintended sources like has been reported on the media. there was a security camera that reported some sparking or really an explosion as it was described on tv that probably came as a result of lines

collapsing after the collision , after the accident. so people have cell phone cameras and things like that. so we're always looking for additional sources of video information, if anybody has video information that we don't know about. we'd love to hear about it from our witness line. that witness line is witness@ntsb.gov. we'd love to hear from that. also the first part of the question was tox results. let me say first of all, i hear people talking about blood work. we do not, the ntsb, does not request blood work. we don't do that. but by federal law, whenever there's a transportation accident involving commercial entities, by federal law safety sensitive transportation workers are required to perform drug and

alcohol testing. that is done by the carrier. in this case, by amtrak. so amtrak has conducted that in accordance with the regulations. at least that's the information we have at this time. that information is set. we take a split sample, amtrak sends that to their independent lab, we send it to our independent lab in oklahoma city. and one of the f.a.a. -- i'm sorry, the d.o.t. requirement is for five specific drugs to be checked for. we send it to the f.a.a. in oklahoma city to look for many many drugs. over-the-counter drugs. it is a long answer to say that that process takes time, but the process has been initiated. there's a question right here. questioner: based on what you saw at the scene and the interviews you've gotten so far today, what is the preliminary conclusion you can draw in terms

of what caused this crash? you say you want to look at a particular part of the window. what are you looking for? what did you see that raised suspicion? robert: a couple questions there. what conclusions can we draw? the answer to that is easy. we do not draw conclusions at this stage of an accident investigation. we're here to collect information. we will draw conclusions at the completion of the investigation which will be after a very thorough and comprehensive investigation. regarding the question about what damage patterns to that windshield are we having the , f.b.i. look at, it would be on the -- if you're standing in the middle of the locomotive cab the centerline, over here's where the engineer's windshield is. over here is the other wind shield. in the lower portion of the

left-hand wind shield, there is a circular pattern that emanates out just a bit. so that's the damage to that. questioner: a rock might have gone through that? robert: what could have caused that? we are going to -- that will be part of the analysis and that's exactly what we're going to look at. questioner: since the ntsb requires similar compliance of truck drivers with hours behind the wheel, does that -- robert: does the ntsb questioner: [inaudible] -- number of hours. robert: what hours of service requirements are there for modes of transportation? those are not regulated by the ntsb. those are regulated by the u.s. department of transportation and they are different depending on whether you're a trucker or a commercial bus driver or an airline pilot or whether you are a train operator. they're very complex. to sit here and explain it right now, i'd have to spend a lot

of time looking through regulations. but they are different according to each mode of transportation. questioner: the engineer's injuries and this interview, did anything indicate that the damage to the windshield was a rock? robert: does the engineer indicate from his injuries that there may have been -- that he may have been struck by something entering the cab? he did not report anything to that effect when he interviewed -- when we interviewed him this afternoon. questioner: [inaudible] robert: did it come from the assistant -- i'm sorry, did the engineer report anything about that conversation about the projectile or being shot at? was he specifically asked that question?

he was specifically asked that question and he did not recall -- he did not recall anything of that sort. but there again he does not -- he reported that he does not have any recollection of anything past north philadelphia. can we kill those fans? can you figure out how to work that thing over there? thank you. good job. almost good job. [laughter] thank you. questioner: i know you said you don't have the schedule right now. do you know if these two routes were the only ones for the day prior to the new york-washington had he done any other trips? , robert: had he done any other trips of that day? no, he had not. he reported for duty in new york, took his train to washington and then he was on his return trip to new york.

questioner: the second question, you said you got the track image recorder. robert: do we have any information from the track image recorder, the video recorder from the septa train? we have just secured that and have not looked at that -- have not evaluated that yet. questioner: did he report having any problems on the way down with the train? robert: did he report having any troubles on the train going down? he operated a different train going down and also he reported no fatigue throughout the day or any illness throughout the day. questioner: and no problems on the way down? >> he had some technical problems on the train going down that got in about 30 minutes late. robert: thanks. just for the microphone purposes, he did apparently have some technical problems on the route down to washington.

questioner: follow-up, it's not reporting fatigue, did he report that that was stressful that he was frazzled in any way from that experience? robert: i have no knowledge of him being frazzled as a result of being on time -- or being a little late. questioner: [inaudible] -- is there any evidence of video image on the train to show any projectile? have you seen anything like that? when the conductor said she overheard the engineer saying that someone may have thrown something at his train, does she believe -- in that context, does she believe it was at that moment or prior to that? robert: does the track image recorder from the amtrak train reveal anything about anything being thrown at the train? and when we evaluated it yesterday, we did not see anything.

we will of course -- we're very interested in this report. we want to learn more about it. so we will use all sources of information that we can to independently validate that. the second part of your question, which i've already forgotten was exactly what? , questioner: -- reported recalling her engineer saying that something might have struck his window as well. was it your understanding that she meant at that moment that they were speaking it happened or it may have happened prior to that? robert: the sort of time frame of things that she's recalling, believing that she heard the septa engineer reporting to the amtrak dispatcher that he had had a broken wind shield and thought that something had either been thrown at his train or being shot at, and then at that time, according to her recollection, the amtrak engineer stated that he had had something along the same lines.

questioner: at this point do you have any other corroborating evidence about what may have been a projectile going through the wind shield? robert: at this point do we have any information to corroborate anything shooting at either of the trains? at this time we don't other than the fact that we're having the f.b.i. go out and examine this fracture pattern in the wind shield. this was late breaking news for us. again, that's why we delayed the press conference. we just interviewed these people this afternoon. it's new information for us and so we will use all available sources to independently corroborate that. let's see. somebody we haven't called on. "wall street journal." questioner: two questions. do you guys know yet whether or not the engineer was manually increasing the speed using the throttle?

did the train's alert system work? did the brakes kick in automatically? robert: the question is, and i actually answered the first question about do we know if the train was -- the throttle was being moved -- was being advanced manually. i've already answered that question. the other part of the question is that, did the train stop on its own or did it stop because the alerter had not, you know in a train if an engineer does not make a movement, throttle movement, horn movement, bell movement, anything like that, if a throttle -- if an engineer does not make an input to the train within a certain period of time, and that period of time varies, varies on the speed, varies with the carrier, varies on a number of things, if the train does not receive an input will sound an alert. if the engineer does not respond, the train will come to a stop.

what we said on the first day we got here was the train was placed into engineer-induced braking. which means that the engineer placed the train into emergency braking. that was an engineer. i want to thank you for your time. questioner: can you explain the septa train in relation to -- >> next, president obama speaking at the national police memorial service. after that, ntsb officials with updates on the philadelphia train derailment. president obama pay tribute to officers who lost their lives in the line of duty in 2014. in 1962, president kennedy proclaimed may 15 as the national peace officers memorial day. the three-hour event was held on the west lawn of the u.s. capitol.

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♪ at of the twilight's last gleaming. whose broad stripes and bright stars ♪ ♪ through the perilous fight ♪ ♪ over the ramparts we watched ♪ ♪ were so gallantly streaming ♪ ♪ and the rockets red glare ♪ ♪ the bombs bursting in air ♪ ♪ gave proof through the night ♪ ♪ that our flag was still there ♪ ♪ o say does that star-spangled banner yet wave ♪

♪ over the land of the free ♪ ♪ and the home of the brave ♪ >> honor guard, colors. order, right shoulder.

[background noises] >> honor guard, colors. parade rest. >> phil liggett from the top of the national launch will now deliver the invocation. phil: our heavenly father together on the capitol grounds of this great nation. we call upon you as we join our

hearts and minds together in prayer, that you bring comfort and peace of those among us that morning. that you cover our active officers across the country in your protection. as we remember the officers who died in the line of duty since our last service, with renewed strength that they shall mount up with wings like eagles. they shall run and not be weary. they shall walk. this in your holy name we pray, amen. >> you may be seated. special thank you to the officer for the beautiful rendition of our national anthem. [applause] my name is chuck canterbury. it is my honor and privilege to welcome all of you, my fellow officers come our distinguished

guests, and most especially our surviving family members. the service is dedicated to the memory of your loved ones. and the service is for you. i like to begin this morning by introducing our guests for this solemn event. beginning on my right please welcome frank larkin, the senate sergeant at arms. [applause] next to him is craig lloyd chairman of the national law enforcement officers memorial fund. [applause] and our dear friend, resident of the concern the survivors madalyn newman. next, we have eric church, country music star who will perform a musical tribute later in the program. thank you. and next to him, is the host of the united states capitol

police. i would also like to take this time to thank the united states capitol police for their undying support of this memorial and all of the work that is done year-round by members of the capitol police to put the service on. as well as the border patrol. thank you very much. [applause] we are very pleased to welcome the chief legal and corporate services officer, one of our most generous corporate partners and longest-serving partners to this memorial service. thank you. [applause] it is a great honor for me to welcome one of the most stalwart champions, senator patrick leahy of vermont, ranking member of the senate judiciary committee. senator, we appreciate you for being here and all the years that you have attended. and also for your leadership and support in getting the blue

alert and body armor bills through the senate. thank you, sir. we are very fortunate to have with us a senior member of the judiciary committee and the president pro tem , senator orrin hatch. thank you for being here. i want to take a personal note to thank you for your leadership on a pending law enforcement retirement bill that is expected to pass later today. thank you so much. [applause] next to senator hatch, is linda henning, national president of the f.o.b. auxiliary. we welcome you to the service but we want you to know that they do all of the background for this work and setting of the service. now turning to my far left, i would like to welcome paul irving, the sergeant at arms for

the house of representatives. [applause] next, i like to welcome one of our d ear friends michelle leonhardt. i would like to congratulate you for your 36 years of service, and congratulate you on your retirement and let you know she is a proud member of baltimore lodge 3 fraternal order of police. we welcome homeland security secretary jeh johnson who has attended services in the past. we are also pleased to have the deputy secretary for homeland security. welcome. we are also pleased to have with us deputy attorney general

sally -- confirmed just this week. thank you for being here. we also welcome our new u.s. attorney general, loretta lynch here with us today. thank you and welcome. finally, it is my honor and privilege to have with us today president barack obama. i will fully introduce him in a few moments. [applause] on behalf of the national fraternal order of police and the national fraternal police order auxiliary, it is my welcome to -- it is my honor to welcome you to the service. we contine to honor brothers

and sisters have given their also we continue to live in peace and the greatest country in the world here at 100 years ago this week. two members of the pittsburgh police department decided to come together to form an organization for the stated purpose of working to increase benefits, salary and working conditions for law enforcement. that goal is still our stated purpose. we wanted a special day every year to honor those who lost their lives in the performance of their duties. may 15 was designated as that day in 1962 president john f kennedy. in 1982, we began hosting the service as a proper way to honor our heroes. this day is for america to tell family members that we honor respect, and grieve for your loss. that we are not dedicated to any other purpose and make sure your

sacrifice will not be forgotten. when we began the service, the word impossible was used to describe the task of making this a national event. the fear was that local officers and local associations would be the only ones to attend the service. well impossible is just a word that is used to stop you from trying. we did not stop trying. and from that first year, where 125 people attended, to today where we have over 20,000 people in attendance, it has been a long journey. but i journey filled with memories and spin experiences that none of us will ever forget. that is what makes law enforcement community a bond that lasts a lifetime. we understand it is not a job but a way of life that falls to

the family and extended family. you sacrificed them to allow them to do their job. and we thank you for that. in these times, when there are no shortage of people who are negative about our profession, it would be easy to forget that most americans still respect the jobs we do. and they overwhelmingly know that law enforcement and other public safety professionals are a much-needed and first-class line of defense. we as professionals must continue to strive to provide the best service to our communities. and we must never allow naysayers to deter us from our appointed duties. true professionals soar in the face of disperse thadversity. true professionals, we honor them here today. they gave themselves that others

could go and live on. they gave of themselves that others can be with their families. they gave so that others can enjoy the pursuit of happiness. and they gave of themselves because it was their job. it is time for all americans to stand up and tell the world that we honor the work that our heroes have done and that they honor the memory of these law enforcement professionals. and this place, where so many have been honored including our great military, our elected leaders and now these heroes, we must always room for their sacrifice. we must honor their memories by continuing to provide polity law enforcement. we cannot let anyone take away from their achievements and sacrifices. today, i call on this nation to recognize the men and women who wear a badge or a star and go out on the streets in this country to put their safety on the line. i call on elected leaders to

provide them with the necessary tools and resources to perform the duty and support. we are not asking for the moon. we are asking for the respect and admiration that law enforcement professionals deserve. our commitment to you, we will never forget your memories. and will never let this country forget the sacrifices that they have done. god bless you. god bless our officers working the streets of america. god bless our military, and god bless this country. thank you very much. [applause] it is now my honor to introduce the president of the national f.o.p. linda henry for some remarks. [applause] linda: mr. president, members of

congress, brothers and sisters of law enforcement, families and friends of our fallen heroes welcome to the 34th annual national peace officers memorial service. in 1962, congress authorized resident john f kennedy to proclaim this the day to honor the great law enforcement officers who proudly wore the uniform, who daily serve the communities in which they live and work, and who ultimately made the supreme sacrifice in the performance of their duties. the proclamation further designated the calendar week in which may 15 falls each year as police week. and recognition of the service given by the men and women of law enforcement who stand guard day and night to protect the citizens of our community. the proclamation was signed

october 1, 1962. 20 years later on may 15 1982, the first national peace officers memorial service was held in senate park -- honoring 91 law enforcement officers around the country. who had given their lives in duty. they gather that day to honor the memory of their loved ones. today, we honor 131 officers as their families, friends, and coworkers gather in this place to celebrate the memory of the lives that were taken in an instant while serving and protecting the citizens of our great nation. while we hailed them as heroes, and see them as larger-than-life, each of these officers would want to be remembered as community servants just doing their job. they would much rather be remembered as jill and pat's

son or daughter, bobby and jenny's dad rather than immortalized as hero. these officers did not live for the honors they pay. their happiness was simply in doing their job, serving and protecting the public on a daily basis. and while we honor them as heroes, we remember them for the persons they were. death leaves a heartache no one can feel. but love is remembering that no one can steal the sacrifice of the officers. your family will not be forgotten. their devotion to you in the profession will be carried on by the brotherhood and sisterhood of law enforcement. you need only observe the sea of uniforms here today to be assured that you never walk alone.

these 131 brave men and women gave their all. they made the ultimate sacrifice and laid down their lives to protect and serve the families, friends, coworkers and public here today to honor them. may god bless the families they leave behind. may god watch over law enforcement officers who serve this great nation. and may god bless the united states of america. thank you. [applause] >> we will now have a musical selection by eric church. ♪ i would like to think that i

have strong enough convictions ♪ ♪ to give my life for something i believe ♪ ♪ but the truth is that i have never been put in that position ♪ ♪ where i would have to die to keep someone else free ♪ ♪ they do it every day ♪ ♪ tonight, i pray ♪ ♪ as i lay my worries down ♪ ♪ still standing ground. ♪ ♪ i would like to think that i

have the kind of courage ♪ ♪ to speak the name of god where he was banned ♪ ♪ to be the kind of guy to stay by her side ♪ ♪ a lot of other guys would've left ♪ ♪ but there are those that do it every day ♪ ♪ there are those for tomorrow ♪ ♪ every night i pray as i lay my worries away ♪ ♪ lord watch over those still standing ground ♪ ♪ i make my living with his old guitar ♪ ♪ i stand on the stage and i

wore out my heart ♪ ♪ it might not be much in the scheme of things ♪ ♪ but i might save a life with the songs icing ♪ sing ♪ ♪ they do it every day ♪ ♪ and there are those for tomorrow ♪ ♪ this song is not much ♪ ♪ but it is the best way i know how ♪ ♪ for standing up for those still standing their ground ♪ [applause] >> thank you, mr. church.

for the wonderful performance of "standing your ground." is a pleasure to have you with us here today, sir. [applause] i am honored to welcome and introduce the keynote speaker for our 34th annual national peace officers morrill service. barack obama is the president of the united states. president obama has been with us in past years, and it is a privilege and honor to have him again to honor the families of our fallen heroes. this day is the family's chance to offer condolences to you. our hope is that our nation will

stand up for law enforcement and be thankful we have kept them safe. brothers sisters, our distinguished guests, please help me in welcoming the president of the united states -- president barack obama, who will express our nation's condolences. thank you so much, sir. [applause] president barack obama: thank you so much. please be seated. thank you, chuck. for that kind introduction. for your years of proud service not only as a police officer but all of the advocacy you do on behalf of the families. i want to thank the fraternal order of police and its leadership, including jim pascoe and linda henney for everything you do to support those who protect and serve.

let me also say, as we gather here today, our prayers remain with the families of our marines and two nepalese soldiers, now that the wreckage of their helicopter has been found in a remote part of nepal. they went to that remote land to help people who suffered devastating losses and the terrible earthquake. they represent a truth that guides our work around the world. when our friends are in need america helps. sometimes those in uniform get attention only when there is a battle. but they do so much more than that, looking out for folks who are vulnerable. or having a tough time experiencing disaster. and it can involve great risk, great sacrifice, and we give thanks to all our fellow americans -- military and

civilian, who reflect the very best of american leadership around the world. the world is better for them. we are here to honor heroes who lost their lives in the line of duty. the men and women who put themselves in the way of danger so that the rest of us can live in safety. they were beat cops, deputies, detectives correctional and foreign service officers, federal agents, and tribal police. but too many here today, they went by different titles. caring husband, loving wife, my son, my daughter, mom, dad. the families who are here today

whose loved ones did not come home at the end of a shift please know how deeply sorry we are for the loss you have endured. know how deeply grateful we are for your loved ones sacrifice. we hold them up as heroes because that is what they are. it takes a special kind of courage to be a peace officer. to be the one people turn to innermost desperate moments. to be willing to run into a dangerous situation when everyone else is running the other way. the scripture tells us to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. but only a special view take the commandment so deeply to heart that they are willing to risk their lives so that others,

often total strangers, can no peace and security. and that is what piece officers do. -- peace officers do. and we honor 131 who made that sacrifice. officer kevin gordon was a member of the police department in griffin, georgia. father of seven children, army veteran, is daughter debra said we were his platoon. kevin deployed his own training to raise his young tune. platoon. how motivated are you? they are motivated, highly motivated. [applause] we drove them with the basics to

study hard and pushed your selves and take care of each other. and everywhere he went, he made friends. in tammy's words, he never met a stranger. to help make ends meet, kevin took a night shift as a security guard at a waffle house. one night, customers got rowdy and is kevin was placing one troublemaker under arrest, he was shot and killed. he was just 43 years old. one week later kevin's son graduated from griffin high. today, his son is in the army training to be an mp and wants to be in law enforcement just like his dad. senior deputy jessica hollis

started out as an emt in san antonio, texas. she and her husband ricky applied to the police academy together, and graduated together. just the second married couple to do that in austin. jessica eventually joined the county sheriff's office where he became a senior deputy and member of the prestigious dive team. she was a fierce animal lover. if you drove by a turtle trying to cross the road, she would slam on the brakes and gently carry him to the other side. she took her son mason, on special vacation. the family lake house in new orleans on diving trips just the two of them. last september, after heavy rains, jessica went out to check for civilians trapped in rising

water. it was around 2:00 in the morning. her car was being swept away by the flood water. minutes later, she was missing. dozens of officers came to join the search, but by the time they found her, it was too late. more than 1000 people attended her funeral. and major tragedyvis county made sure to tell all of his officers that he never had a chance to save them. i would do anything for you. officer roberto sanchez;'s parent brought in you is just what tro years old. it was the first trip on an airplane and that airplane is what brought him to america. he began to collect model airplanes.

he took his high school sweetheart on a plane. he always had one big dream to be a police officer. when he joined the lapd, friends say he was so happy. he lived within walking distance of his barracks. he volunteered at the school where his niece teaches kindergarten and he married sonja, his high school sweetheart. one night, officer sanchez was a pursuit of a speeding vehicle when someone intentionally crashed into his patrol car. he was the third lapd officer killed in just two months. your jobs are inherently dangerous. the reminders are two common. just a few days ago, two police officers were killed in the line of duty in mississippi. a week before that, an officer

was killed in the line of duty in queens. a few months before that, two of his officers in the nypd were killed, as well. we cannot erase every darkness or danger from the duty you have chosen. we can offer you the support you need to be safe. we can make the communities you care about and protect safer, as well. we can make sure you have the resources you need to do your job. we can do everything we have to do to combat the poverty that plagues too many communities in which you have to serve. we can work harder as a nation to heal the risk that still exists in some places between law enforcement and the people you risk your lives to protect.

we go into all of you who wear the badge with honor. and we know it to your fellow officers who give their last full measure of devotion. most of all, we can say thank you. we can say we appreciate you and we are grateful for the work that you do each and every day. and we can thank the families who bear the burden alongside you. on behalf of the american people i offer the families, friends, and fellow officers of those we have lost my prayers and my deepest thanks. we could not be prouder of them more grateful for their service. we could not be prouder of you and all who worked so hard to keep us safe.

may god bless you, may comfort the mourning, may he protect the peacemakers, and may he bless the united states of america. [applause]

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