here. >> what would you do now about syria? would you support a no-fly zone like the arabs and turks are asking? if president obama goes ahead and concludes with iran, what do you do then? charlie: in the interest of time, choose one or the other. sen. rubio: one of the great sticking points between us and our allies is they are interested in getting rid of assad. i hope someone will ask me the iraq question. charlie: right here. >> you are supporting the military quite strongly over various episodes. right now, a great part of the

defense budget goes to health care. the military is becoming a health care organization. this does not include the va. how will you support the military health care programs and returning veterans? sen. rubio: returning veterans will go into the va system. it was designed 87 years ago and is no longer responsive to the needs of veterans today. a significant percentage of the workload in my senate office are va claims, and veteran should be given the right to go outside the system so they can access the care they need. as far as military spending is it -- concerned, military spending is not the cause of our national debt. every time we reduce military spending, it has required us to make up for it. should we improve our contracting process? absolutely. i wish our military contracting looked more like space contracting, with less change

orders adding price to it. the number one obligation of the federal government is national security, and we are eroding our capability as adversaries are increasing their capability. >> where are you going to get the money for it? sen. rubio: the money is there. the question you're asking is what are we not going to pay in exchange? the driver of long-term debt is not discretionary spending. the cause of long-term debt are social security and medicare. as currently structured, they will not survive. my generation will not know medicare and social security if that continues. that is why i have called for reforms that leave people like my mother exactly the way they are. it was not change the system for them, but my generation has to face a fundamental truth.

our social security will either look different or not exist at retirement age. the next president of the united states will not be able to serve two terms without confronting that reality. those programs were designed with 60 workers for every retiree. there are now three workers for every retiree. it will go down to two. the math does not add up. we need to fund the programs or they will not exist for me or my children. if we do it now, we can do it in a way that does not disrupt current beneficiaries. the longer we wait, the more difficult it. -- it will be. charlie: i promised it would not go beyond the suggested 4:40. his wife is arguing -- she must have a pressing appointment.

she will get to her appointment for sure. i assume you have other things to do as well. a great pleasure. thank you for coming. sen. rubio: thank you very much. [applause] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> some republican presidential hopefuls were in des moines last night, speaking to the iowa gop lincoln dinner. we will show you the remarks of jeb bush and rand paul. >> please welcome former governor jeb bush. mr. bush: thank you very much. i am excited to be here. this is day 541.

for the end of the age of obama and hillary clinton. [applause] mr. bush: many of you know me as george and barbara's boy. some of you may know w is my brother. whether people like that or not, they will have to get -- get used to it. i know that i will have to talk a little bit about who i am. i am the husband who has been married 41 years with three great kids, four perfect grandkids. we have lived in tallahassee and miami. i did something unusual. i signed the front side of a paycheck. with a great partner, we built a large commercial real

estate company in south water -- florida. i took the traits of being in business understanding how markets work, i took that basic belief and went to tallahassee as governor of the fourth-largest state. now the third largest state. the experience i had as governor is completely different than the experience we have seen over the last six years in washington dc. in the last six years, president obama has increased taxes $1 trillion to pay for obamacare. an additional $600 billion over 10 years because he could. in miami and in florida, we cut taxes every year, totaling $18 billion. we do not have an income tax to cut. it took a little creativity. in washington, the debt has gone to $18 billion. almost double in the last six years.

in washington dc, our national government has now been downgraded from aaa to aa. in florida, i raise reserves from $1 billion to close to $10 billion. they called me veto corleone. i brought budget discipline to tallahassee. we reduced the government workforce by 14,000 people, 10% of the workforce. we were the only state in those eight years to go from aa to aaa. there is a different between a liberal agenda and a conservative agenda apply the right way. [applause] mr. bush: under this president, our growth has been anemic, 2% over six years. there are 5 million more people living in poverty than before. our welfare role has grown, food

stamps total 48 million people up from 32 million. median household income in the 60 year of recovery is down $2100. this economic policy is pitiful. can florida, state economy grew by 4.4%. we added 1.3 million new jobs in florida. we challenged every aspect of how the economy should work. whenever there was an impediment to worker's comp. or tort reform or taxes, what we did was tear down the barriers so people could pursue their dream as they saw fit. one point 3 million new jobs were created, more than any state in the country during those eight years other than california. [applause] mr. bush: we did a lot of other

things other than economic development. we have at law to protect the second amendment. because of that, i got an a+ from the nra year after year. be protected the most vulnerable in our society. i acted on my face, and many others agree with me. we put the people most vulnerable at the front of the line. the unborn, disabled, the elders. we need to do that as a higher priority. the most vulnerable should be taking care of. if we grow our economy fast enough, we can take the -- care of people. that is good politics as well. [applause] mr. bush: i am proud of my record of accomplishment and integrity as governor of florida. i believe it is time to change the record of what is going on in washington dc.

the obama administration has politicized the justice department, the irs. there are scandals of epic proportion. today is armed forces day. it is scandalous we treat our military in the veterans department in a way where people should be fired. one person has been fired. there should be scores of people fired for withholding services for people who truly need it. [applause] mr. bush: this administration has tried to regulate everything under the sun. whether it is the sec trying to regulate access to the internet, the epa merck -- regulating the air, this administration uses executive authority that many times, they do not have. and displace economic activity.

americans are beginning to doubt whether our government and the basic institutions we have had to trust and have trusted for 239 years can be trusted anymore. we can fix this. we can fix this. you can do it with proper leadership, by creating sustained economic growth where more people have a chance at success. if we fix how we tax, regulate, embrace the energy revolution fix a broken immigration system fix our retirement system, this will be the most extraordinary time to be alive. i totally believe that and hope you do too. our children and greg -- grandchildren are deserving of that basic promise. [applause] mr. bush: if we will do that at home, we have to do it abroad. we see what happens when a president does not believe america's power in the world is a force for good. it starts by rebuilding our military.

gilmore sequesters -- no more sequesters. we have to be vigilant to make sure we live in a peaceful world. the best way to do that is peace through strength. [applause] mr. bush: we need to support our veterans. our friends me to believe in us and our enemies need to fear us once again. the next president is going to have to rebuild the relationships that have been tattered to the core. israel, the arab gulf states, canada. we have managed to hurt our relationship with our largest trading partner. our relationships are worse. name a country where the relationship is better than the days when barack obama came into office. iran cuba. i rest my case.

[applause] mr. bush: if we want to have a safe country, if we want to have a world where a people has a chance to rise up, we have to be engaged. who is going to take care of the persecuted christians in iraq? who is going to take care of the christians killed in kenya because they were in university? who is going to take care of the christian girls in northern nigeria? the united states is a leader because our values of our powerful our might is powerful and people have to know the u.s. will be with them in the long haul. if we do that, incredible things can happen. let me close with a story from a friend of mine. in florida, we turned the education system upside down. denesha meriwether was held back

two years in a row because her family was moving around. hurt -- her godmother got wind of a scholarship program and she was sent to a private school. she went from being to grade levels back to graduating in high school first in her family to graduate from high school. the first in her family to graduate from college. there were people, including the governor, that had the courage to challenge the institutions that were not working for the next generation. because of that, she is now living a life of purpose and meaning. for republicans to win going forward, we have to be on the side of the deneshas in the world. we have to share the joy of possibility. god bless you all for everything you do for the republican cause. [applause]

>> please welcome senator rand paul. sen. paul: thank you. i am on the rubber chicken circuit. i have been all over the place. we have a lot of barbecues in kentucky. the guy in front of me has two plates of food. i said, i do not think you will live long eating like that. he said, my granddad lived to be 105. he said he lived to be 105 by minding his own business. [laughter] sen. paul: some of us would like a government minding its own business. [applause]

sen. paul: whether it is your business, regulatory overreach or your cell phones, some of us think the government needs to be minding their own business. justice brandeis once wrote the right to be left alone is the most cherished of rights, the most prized among civilized men. we are having this debate, and it is important to have in our country. the debate over whether a single warrant can collect all your phone records. this does separate us, but it is a valid debate to have. can we have the bill of rights? can we have the fourth amendment? can we protect your right to privacy and still catch terrorists? or must we be frightened? must we be so frightened that we give up on what our founding fathers fought for to catch

terrorists? it is a valid debate, but it is an important debate. john adams wrote that the debate over the fourth amendment, debate over general warrants whether an individual's name has to be on the warrant, was a spark that led to the revolution. if we want to be the party that is the party of the entire bill of rights, we want to be the party that defends the second amendment. we have to defend the fourth amendment and the first amendment and the entire bill of rights. [applause] sen. paul: when i see a warrant that has a guy named verizon on it, i do not know anyone named mr. verizon. you have to have an individual's name on it. we catch murderers and we can catch terrorists like calling a judge. i do not care if it is the middle of the night.

you call a judge and get a warrant. i want to catch terrorists, but i want to protect the constitution. [applause] sen. paul: we will have this debate next week. it will be over whether or not we can have the full collection of phone records with a general warrant or not. it is an important debate, a valid debate, something we should have in our country. the question was asked of one of our candidates, was the iraq war on the state? would you do it again? it is a valid question. not because we are talking about history, but we are talking about the middle east, where history repeats itself. it seems to repeat itself. we have to question, is iraq war or less stable since hussein is gone? is there more or less chaos?

is there more of a rise in radical islam? is isis more of a threat because of instability? the same question that was asked of republicans needs to be asked of hillary clinton. someone needs to ask hillary clinton, if she ever takes any questions, someone needs to ask her, was it a good idea to topple qadhafi in libya? i think it is a disaster. libya is a failed state. someone ought to pay. hillary clinton needs to answer questions about it. [applause] sen. paul: we topple a strawman, a secular strawman. what is in his place? chaos and the rise of radical islam. it is a failed state. one third of libya pledges

allegiance to isis. our ambassador was killed. our embassy had to flee into tunisia. it is an utter disaster. maybe we should think before we act. i am a physician. in the hippocratic oath, we say do no harm. think what you're doing before you do it. we are more at risk now that qaddafi is gone. hillary clinton came before my committee. we talked about the fact that for nine months eating up to the ambassador's death she refused to provide adequate security. security was sent home. in august, cables are sent. ambassador stevens is pleading for help. i asked her in the committee. did you read the cable? she said no. she acted as if she had more important things to do. time after time, not just that day, for nine months, she did

not answer the call. the one thing you have to do as commander in chief is defend america and her interests. i think hillary clinton, by her failure to defend benghazi, the ambassador, short forever preclude her from holding higher office. [applause] sen. paul: if we want to win, we have to be a bigger, bolder party. we need to defend the entire bill of rights. [applause] sen. paul: that means we need to reach out to people who have not been republicans. it is not just about the second amendment. not just the fourth amendment. the fifth and sixth are about justice, having your day in court. we have had this debate also.

get separates our party, but it is a good debate. we had a debate over whether or not you can indefinitely detain an american citizen. whether a citizen could be capped and sent to guantanamo without a trial. i had this debate with a senator. i said, you would not send them without a trial forever? he said, yes, they are dangerous. kind of begs the question. who gets to decide who is dangerous and who is not? it is not just about terrorism. it is also about our inner cities. a couple of months ago, there was a story in the "new yorker" of a 16-year-old black man arrested, accused of a crime. he was put in jail for three years without trial. the sixth amendment says not only do you get a trial, you get a speedy trial. he tried to commit suicide. he was in solitary confinement.

many of us do not encounter that in our daily lives. many of us would have had $3000 to get our kid out of jail. can you see people unhappy in our country, the unhappiness going on, realize this is the life that some people lead. if you are his mom or his friends or anyone in his neighborhood in the bronx, you can see they are unhappy and feel they are not being treated justly. what i say to you is, you want to be the bigger better party you will be. we will be, when we protect the sixth amendment as much as we protect the second amendment. [applause] some say we should dilute our values, be more like the democrats. what i say is we can stick to our principles but talk about our principles in a way to new people to bring them into the party. the sky is the limit. if we take that message with

optimism to new people, they will join. so many people have been taken for granted for the other side that have always voted democrat and are ready to come our way. we are seeing it in purple states. very few republicans leading hillary clinton. we are reaching out to new people. that is how you win elections. as we move forward and try to make our party bigger, better, boulder, the way we do it is bringing a message that has hope. a message that is a clarion call to those who have not had hope in our country. there was a painter who said to young painters, paint like a man coming over the hills singing. i love the image of that. when we become the party that proclaims our message like patrick henry but also proclaims

that message like a man coming over the hill singing, we will be the dominant party again. i want to be part of that and hope you do too. thank you very much. [applause] >> tomorrow, michael morrell offers his assessment of counterterrorism successes and failures in the last 20 years at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. monday night on the communicators, members of congress on an essay collection of phone records, privacy, and net neutrality. >> section 216 ostensibly authorizes bulk data collection. last week, we found out the

second district federal court agrees with the justices that the patriot act never really authorized these programs, that they are a legal. the nsa would tell you they were authorized by section 215. and proceed to write a warrant that covers every american citizen. >> i think our policy is far from up to date. we have a policy that is out of date. we have copyright policy from 1976. a lot has changed since 1976. we have electronics indications privacy act in 1986. we started working on e-mail in 1989. now, we have e-mail as a standard form of communication. yet, we still have a situation where a piece of paper in your drawer is held to warrant

standards. in e-mail, it has been stored in the cloud and is not subject to a warrant standard. >> we are not making a comment specifically. we are saying the internet needs to be open and free and anytime the government gets involved there is a pandora's box of what it will lead to next. we have had hearings where we cannot answer basic questions. so we are saying at this point let that be an issue for congress, elected officials. but not be put in place by bureaucrats who really have no consequence from the populace. >> monday night at 8:00 eastern on the communicators on c-span2. >> next, "q&a" with chris

hadfield. then the leaders of the scottish national party discuss the results of the elections in great britain. after that, a house hearing on combating sex trafficking. ♪ >> this week on "q&a," our guest is former canadian astronaut chris hadfield, author of an astronaut's guide to life on earth. he talks about his missions in space, his time as commander of the international space station and his use of video to inform the public about what life in space is on and experiments going on there. we start our program with a video that launched him in the public eye. [video clip] ♪