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only announce his plans for 2016. that is life monday at 10:30 a.m. eastern. the senate is meeting tomorrow for an afternoon the bill makes changes to the nsa data collection program for the agency to get a warrant and ask the phone companies for their records. the bill was voted on the senate next week but fell three votes short of advancing preauthorization for the program expires tomorrow at midnight. here is more on what could happen before then in the senate. tomorrow beginning at 4:00 p.m. for now, we are joined by stephen of "u.s. news & world report ago why does the senate have to be in session on sunday? what will they be debating? guest: the senate will be in
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session because section 215 of the patriot act expires on monday. if they decide to extend it, it would most likely be under the u.s. freedom act. the other option would afford to be to let it expire altogether which seems to be the less likely of the two options. host: this has already passed the house and it seems a good is bipartisan support in the senate. what is the holdup? guest: there are various series. what has been floated by congressman in mosh that mitch mcconnell pass the surveillance act to get more leverage. after the freedom act failed by three votes, last weekend he brought up a cleaner renault
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which also failed. currently, it is unclear. it seems plausible to think there will be three more votes. other people have covered this. "national journal" broke down 10 possible vote switchers. it is also possible that more hawkish members will also now vote to continue provisions. host: what happens if the authorization for the program actually expires sunday at midnight? guest: officials say that the phone records collection will end on sunday if it is not reauthorized. it is unclear if the other two provisions will have an immediate effect. the phone record collection which is of course very controversial because it was
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exposed by whistleblower edward snowden, that will reportedly ended. host: is there a path forward for lawmakers? is there a compromise that looks viable? guest: the house will not be back in session until monday. there would be a momentary lap se, at least. host: you wrote a story recently in which you stated that even if the senate passes the freedom act, the nsa would not be able to purge its database of records. could you explain that check? guest: there are several lawmakers -- lawsuits. the orders mean that nsa cannot delete evidence that is related to lawsuits. in this case, being the phone records that are collected. officials confirmed last week
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that the phone database will not be purged. even if the program expires on 79, the phone records that have artie been collected and stored will remain in their possession. host: what does that mean for consumer privacy? guest: it is unclear. currently, the records are required to be in a non-searchable form. it is conceivable that courts would require the records that are currently being held for less than five years to be held in a similar form. host: is there any sense for what this means to mitch mcconnell going forward, if the program does lapse? guest: mitch mcconnell lost his gamble to renew the provisions without changes. it is unclear if it means anything larger than that. it is possible that he actually will support the freedom act coming up for a vote and passing.
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host: and you mention that the house will be back in session on monday. is there any possibility that new provisions or a new idea might be added to the current version of the freedom act? guest: i suppose it is possible. in the past, there has been similar drama in the lead up to deadlines. during the first round reauthorization debates, there were actually two short-term extensions. that is conceivable is the freedom act does not pass on sunday. it is also possible that reformers will attempt to strengthen the freedom act. there was a very popular amendment that passed by a veto majority in the house of representatives last year that would have banned the so-called backdoor sectors -- searches of internet. it is possible that an amendment like that would be sought by
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reformers, and quite possibly passed. host: is there any sort of national security consequence to the program not being authorized or lapsing? guest: there are three intelligence provisions that are set to expire. one of them is to target loan most terror suspects who are not affiliated with the terrorist organization. that one has never been used. that one is certain to not have any consequences for national security. the other one is wiretaps which allows officials to track people even if they need to change cell phones. and there is section 215 of the patriot act. that purportedly authorizes people collection of phone records. two panels have found that that is not essential to preventing
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terrorist attacks. although some officials say there will be consequences to o national security, review groups have said that quite it is not -- it is not quite >> this is bernie sanders of vermont. want to very briefly touch on as well today mr. president. that deals with the whole issue of the u.s.a. patriot act and fisa and civil liberties in this country. let me just make a few basic points. there is nobody in the senate,
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there is nobody in the house who does not understand that there are terrorist groups out there who want to attack the united states of america and our allies who want to do us harm. and there's nobody in the senate or the house or i think in the united states of america who does not believe as a nation we have got to do everything that we can to protect the people of our country from terrorist attacks. there is no debate on that. but what the debate is about is how do we protect the american people without undermining the constitution of the united states of america or undermining the privacy rights of the american people. mr. president, i think everybody does understand and should understand that modern
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technology in all of its tropical storms from the iphones to a dozen or a hundred different ways, that technology has greatly greatly outstripped public policy in terms of protecting privacy rights. by and large the privacy rights that we have on the books now were written years and years before the development of the technologies that we see right now. and it is absolutely imperative that as a nation we begin a serious conversation which includes some of the most knowledgeable people in this country, people who know about what technology can do today what it can do tomorrow, people who are concerned about civil liberties and privacy rights,
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our law enforcement officials our national security people. and members of the united states congress. and what that discussion should be about is pretty simple -- how do we protect our country against terrorism at the same time as we protect our privacy rights and our constitutional freedoms. mr. president, as we consider whether or not to reauthorize parts of the patriot act we must take stock of where we are today. it is no secret that n.s.a. collects vast sums of information and at one point or another has collected information on virtually every person in this country who uses a telephone. that is no great secret. since june -- since june, 2013 we have learned that the
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n.s.a. collects phone call megadata including the numbers of both parties location time and duration. text messages, email chat, and internet browsing history. smart phone app data including google maps which can pinpoint a person's location to within a few yards. maps of people's social networks bank and credit card transactions. and this, mr. president is just the tip of the iceberg. there is undoubtedly much more being done that we simply don't know anything about. further, local governments and other agencies are also collecting information about the movements and the habits of law-abiding americans. when you drive down the street, there are cameras that can take pictures of your license plate
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there are cameras on street corners, cameras in private buildings, the government knows where you are traveling and how long you are gone. let's be clear. while today we are focusing appropriately on the role of the federal government in issues of civil liberties we must also understand that it is not just the government that is collecting information on law-abiding americans. in fact, the private sector's collection of information is just as intrusive and equally dangerous. mr. president, private companies, private corporations know a whole lot about what we do. our every move can be tracked by
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a smart phone almost two-thirds of the american people, by the way have smart phones. mr. president, private companies can know what we read what we are emailing about, what weeks visit -- web sites we visit. they know when you have purchased a ticket and know where that trip is taking you. they know whether you're going on a plane or a train or a bus or wherever. when we go to a grocery store your discount card gets scanned and the grocery store knows exactly what you are eating. same thing at the farmers a. they know what kind -- pharmacy. they know what kind of medicine you are buying enabling people to make judgments about your health. they know when you are pregnant based on your purchases.
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in the name of fitness people are wearing watches and fitbitz that record your heart rate and exercise patterns and how much you sleep. in the wrong information -- in the wrong hands this information could prevent people from getting health insurance through their jobs and even prevent them from getting hired in the first place. in other words enormous, enormous undreamed-of amounts of information are out there and in the wrong hands they could be a real danger to our country and to the lives of millions of innocent people. mr. president, this is what the attack on privacy looks like. someone can access your phone calls, they can access your credit card records, they can comb through your purchases they can analyze your spending habits, they can access your
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emails and your contacts, they can track your movements pretty much anything and everything that we do these days can be tracked and recorded. i hear many of my colleagues coming to the floor of the senate and they talk about america being a free country. well if somebody knows everything you are doing maybe it is time to recognize that we are not quite so free as we think we are. and i know that the argument that i'm raising people will say, well, trust trust these large corporations, trust the government. they're honest people and by and large, many of them are. i'm not suggesting otherwise. but in terms of government policy let us not forget that 45 years ago we had a president of the united states named richard nixon and what richard nixon believed is that anything the president of the united
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states does by definition is legal. you can break into your opponent's political headquarters, not a problem. he's the president. you can spy on people. not a problem he's the president. so i would ask my colleagues and the american people -- and i do not suggest this for one second that this is true of the obama administration but i do ask the american people to think what happens in the future if you have a president who really does believe that he or she is the law. that he or she can or should have access to the kinds of information that is out there. think about the incredible power that administration has the potential for blackmail the political advantages that that administration has. people say well, it's a pretty crazy idea, never going to happen. well a lot of things have happened that we never thought could happen. so mr. president it seems to
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me that now is the time for us as a nation for us as elected officials, to have a very, very important conversation about how we balance our need, of which there is no debate, to protect the american people against terrorist attacks while at the same time we respect the privacy rights and the constitutional rights of our people and how we maintain america as a free and open society. i got involved in this issue a number of years ago when i voted against the u.s.a. patriot act and i remember some librarians in the state of vermont came to me and they said, you know, as a result of section 215 of the u.s.a. patriot act, law enforcement officials the f.b.i. can come to a librarian
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and demand that that librarian provide information about the books that people are borrowing from a library. and, of course, section 215 goes a lot further than that. mr. president, do we want to be a nation in which we are looking over our shoulders and worrying about the books that we are reading because somebody will say, oh, you're reading a book about osama bin laden; clearly you must be a terrorist. is that really the kind of fear that we want to see established in this country? so i say to my colleagues, it is great to come to the floor and talk about freedom but what freedom is about ultimately is the right of people to do what they want to do in a law-abiding way, without harming other people. that's called freedom.
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and in my view, people have a right to make a telephone call today without that information being collected by the government. people have a right to go to the internet, to send an e-mail with the absolute assurance as law-abiding citizens, that their visits to a web site or the e-mails they sent will be -- will not be tracked by the gov the. people have a right to go to a grocery store and purchase what you buy in a grocery store without knowing that somebody knows what you're buying. mr. president, i intend to shortly introduce legislation which will call for a comprehensive review of data collection by public and private entities and the impact that that data is having on the american people. i don't know if this is a progressive piece of legislation or a conservative piece of legislation.
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but i would hope that the -- [no audio] -- would have broad support from people across the political spectrum from people who actually do believe in a free society that our young people should not be worried about the kind of books they read or the web sites that they visit. mr. president, we must bring together leaders in the technology world people who not only know what technology today is doing in invading our privacy rights but what the future holds. because i am quite certain that every single day this technology is growing more and more sophisticated and more and more intrusive. and sitting down with people who are experts on technology have, we have -- we have got to have civil libertarians, people who understand what the first amendment ais what the fourth amendment -- amendment is, what the fourth amendment is, what
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the bill of rights is about what the constitution is about. and of course involved in that discussion must be law enforcement and our security experts. and the goal of all of this must be to create legislation which does everything that we can to protect the safety of the american people but also protects our privacy rights and the our constitutional rightsment -- rights. so mr. president with that, i look forward to working with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle on that legislation. and with congressman from ohio assassinated two days into his term as president. get the complete schedule at cspan.org. the new congressional directory is a handy guide to 114th
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>> in the look at congressional twitter handles. >> document preparations about the approaching hurricane season. he talked about other steps taken to protect communities against potential disasters like tornadoes and flooding. watch the interview tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. on c-span. he was with president obama this week at the national hurricane center in miami. they were part of a briefing with reporters are the president spoke about recent flooding in texas and oklahoma. >> our thoughts and prayers are with the families that have been
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devastated by the flooding in texas and oklahoma. to the lives that have been lost , they go out to the families. there is going to be a lot of work that has to be done for rebuilding. craig just informed me, give me an update on the coordination between federal, state, and local respondents. the coordination is good. they appear to have the assets they need at this stage to respond. there is going to be a lot of rebuilding. we're going to need to help. we will stay in close coordination with them to make sure that our response is quick. the we are helping them recover. there is still going to be weather events that will
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potentially make things worse i'm confident these communities will get back on their feet. it does remind us that it is never too early for disaster preparation. fema released our national preparedness report, summarizing new progress at a national level, along with submissions from across the country. we are in constant coordination with our state and local partners to make sure that their action plans are up to date. we are joined today by our state partners, who are critical in all of this work because they are the first responders to people on the ground who are actually making a difference in taking a lot of the information that we get here and funneling up at the local communities, so we have partners from florida, north carolina, virginia, they have done great work to prepare for hurricane season. the truth is, we are better prepared than ever for the storms of today.
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the technology has improved, the forecasting has improved, the tools we have to model what may happen with something like storm surge has all gotten a lot better, and so not only do we have better information that we have new mechanisms to disseminated. we are focusing on making ourselves more resilient. that are having significant effects on both the pace and intensity of some of the storms. the best climate scientists in the world tell us that extreme weather events like hurricanes are likely to become more powerful when you combine stronger storms with rising seas, that is a recipe for more devastating floods, climate change didn't cause hurricane sandy but it might have made a stronger -- the fact that the sea level in new york harbor is one foot higher than one century ago certainly made a storm surge worse. that is why we are seeking to work with congress to make sure
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that we are focused on resilience and the steps we can take to fortify our infrastructure in these communities. we are fortunate to have a couple of setting members of congress here, on a bipartisan basis, both representing florida, and have a shared interest in making sure that we are building the kind of resilience that we may need to miami, for example, already has to spend hundreds of millions of dollars just to adapt its water system to the more frequent flooding that it is already experiencing. that is why put forward america's first climate action plan two years ago. i called for a climate resilience toolkit to help families and business owners and communities plan for the impacts of the changing climate, and that toolkit is now online at toolkit.climate.gov. responded to her hurricane as a team effort, from federal to
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local levels, we'll have a role to play, i encourage every american a matter where you live to check out ready.gov, where you will find information on making plans for your family building the supply kit, knowing what to do when disaster strikes. this is something that -- has been like a broken record about every year, but he is absolutely right, the best preparedness is a preparedness that is being taken by individual families homeowners. if they have ideas about how label respond to warnings and they are paying attention, then the collective effort obviously goes a lot more smoothly. finally, i want to thank the hard work of the public servants who help america prepare for and respond to and recover from emergencies. sometimes, we take for granted what our public servants do.
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sometimes, we spend a lot of time griping about government, we spend a lot of time complaining about folks that we are not seeing, bureaucrats. basic information like what the weather is like, when storms come, how they are going to respond, that involves our public servants at the federal state, and local levels. they may be in the background until a disaster strikes and suddenly we realize how much we depend on them. and so, i think now is a good time for us to remind ourselves and make sure we are properly resourcing folks who in dire straits we really depend upon, to make sure we are safe, our families are safe, and that we can recover from really devastating attacks by mother
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nature. i also want to thank our military, our national guard for the work they do, but our first responders and our folks at local level, they have been doing some outstanding work. i really want to lift up in particular some of the men and women who deploy on search and rescue, not just here domestically, but internationally. we just had a couple of teams made up of expert, finally-trained, local first responders who essentially volunteer, they just came back from nepal where they save a couple of lives. in the past, they have saved lives in places like haiti after the devastating earthquake there. they have been working around the clock in texas. they are always ready to do the selfless work that we should all be very, very proud of. so, thank you so much for the
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upper teeth when he was 18. it sent them into a depression and self-imposed seclusion in his house for three years. he was not able to go to college , which he planned to do. he stated home, seldom one out at all, reading. providing himself with a liberal arts education of a kind most people would dream of having, all on his own. with the help of his father in the local public library. it swerved his path of his life anyway no one had ever any way of anticipating. like sunday night on c-span q&a. >> george w. bush addressed the
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graduating class at the other methodist diversity in dallas. it it was his first commencement speech since leaving office. this is the 100th anniversary of the university's opening. [applause] george bush: thank you all. thank you. thank you very much. president turner, thanks. members of the board of trustees, faculty, staff parents, most importantly the class of 2015.
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