came from pittsburgh. and the propeller of charles bloomberg's plane is aluminum, and that came from pittsburgh. brian: do you plan to do another book? david: yes, i plan to keep writing. it is my life, and i love it. what it will be, i don't know. i'm waiting for mike hill to find some good idea. brian: our guest has been david mccullough. this is a book called "the wri ght brothers." david: thank you, brian. it is good to be back with you. ♪ [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] announcer: four transcripts of the program, it is also available as c-span podcast.

announcer: canadian astronaut chris hatfield spent three tours on the international space station and wrote several books on the experience, including "you were here: around the world," and also michael hill, a researcher for david mccullough, and the latest book called "dead weight, the latest crossing of the lusitania." watch these at c-span.org. announcer: the u.s. capitol, the u.s. senate earlier today failing to move forward on the soon-to-be ex firing provisions of the usa patriot act back in 2001. after 9/11, the collection of american phone records will ex buyer at midnight. we will take a look at the

observatory in washington, the master clock ticking down. this is until midnight, in just a couple of seconds. we are going to open up the phone lines as midnight passes and here for you on the senate debate today. there is the expiring collection of bulk telephone records. if you are a democrat, you can use the phone line 8920. if you are a republican, 8921, and if you are independent, it is 8922. the senate will be back in tomorrow. they agreed to move forward with the house version. the house passed the usa freedom act, and earlier today this is

kicked doc by kentucky senator rand paul, who has been the most vocal opponent, and here is how his debate started. rand paul: let us be clear. the government continues to have an illegal program. the president has been rebuked and the president has been told in no on explicit terms, the president has been told that the program he is conducting is illegal. that the president opines on television, the president wishes to claim that it is anybody but me, but, do you know what? the president started his program without congressional permission. even the authors of the patriot act say that the patriot act in no way gives authority to the president to collect all of your

phone records all of the time. if there ever was a general warrant, if there ever was a generalized collection of information from people to which there is no suspicion, this is it. we are not collecting the information of spies. we are not collecting information of terrorists. we are collecting all american citizens records all of the time. this is what we fought the revolution over. are we going to blindly give up our freedom? are we going to blindly go along and say to the kit? well i am not going to take it anymore. i do not think the american people are going to take it anymore. this whole collection of all of our records is too much. the court has said, how can records be relevant to an investigation that has not

started? the court has said that even under these standards of saying it would be relevant, then all of the stuff is precisely irrelevant. announcer: kentucky senator rand paul on the floor today, and following his comments, one of the treats about stopping the nsa bulk collection, continuing to celebrate this. here i've c-span, we are going to show you a bit more debate from earlier today. we welcome your calls for democrats, 8920 four democrats 8921 for republicans, and for everyone else, 8922. there are comments about rand paul. the new york times writes that the expiration of three key provisions of the patriot act

means that for now, the nsa will knew -- no longer collect these phone calls in bulk. it also means that they cannot evoke the patriot act. wiretap orders that follow a suspect to changes phones, wiretap owners for a loan terrorism suspect not linked to a group, relative to an investigation. however, the new york times writes that the justice department may invoke a so-called grandfather clause for using those powers for an investigation that started a four june 1, and there are additional workarounds that they may use for the authorizations. let's get to your thoughts. let's hear from chris in columbus, ohio. first up, independent line. welcome. caller: that there was a secret,

that there was a judicial secret system that helps. i wanted to call in and look at what was said about maritime law, the possibility of judging the branch of american society. i guess pirates, what i understood from maritime law. host: we are trying to focus on the senate. they have moved forward with what the house passed, the usa freedom act that the house has passed, and the senate will resume debate tomorrow federation of amendments. next up is el paso, texas, our

democrats line. stacy, go ahead. guest: a hero. i just saw a c-span special on the wright brothers, in mr. snowden deserves our praise, just as the right brothers are an american hero. at great personal cost, including loss of the job, being wanted by the u.s. government, and having to relocate to russia, so the provisions, never seeing the light of day. this was due to the great sacrifice of edward snowden. i would just like to have the opportunity to thank him for what he did for all americans, democrats and republicans because he stood up, at great personal cost to himself and his family, and i support him, and i believe the president of the united states should part in mr. snowden, and he should be

recognized for the stuff that he revealed out there. that is my comment. host: the president has released a statement on the senate action in terms of the moving forward on debate. and they said, the president said, rather, the president took an important if late step forward tonight. this was a short-lived as possible on a matter of national security. they must put aside their partisan motivations and act swiftly. the american people deserve nothing less. calls from smithfield, tennessee, independent line. aaron, welcome. guest: i want to say that i was agreeing with rand paul, that you can just go after these

terrorists who are a threat to america. let me just say that i agree with him. the patriot act was passed, and george w. bush enacted it. i agreed with it then that after 9/11 and all of this, they needed to be stopped. but now the terrorists have inevitably gone down. you can do it as quickly as possible without going into taking away our constitutional rights and just getting that more, -- that warrant, the constitutional rights. host: send us a treat to this one says --

two fayetteville, pennsylvania, pants thought on our republican line, go ahead. guest: my question regarding the nsa and the bulk collection of information, has it gotten to the point that people are so selfish to want to protect their privacy over the safety of the american people? are people afraid of the nsa knowing this, or they are drug dealers? it makes no sense for people to be afraid of the collection of data. host: all right, thank you for the call. andrew is next from north salem, new york. guest: let's just start with him

because we want to talk about the senate, speaking and mentioning the reasons why we should continue with the patriot act, different provisions, and we mentioned how edward snowden is that the criminal, and that, mentioning this guy who actually exposed the truth is amazing that a politician would call this guy a criminal, because a lot of people in washington calling him a criminal is just mind-boggling to me. so you have rand paul who is now defending the truth that came out, and he is trying to say this should not be allowed. the fourth amendment protects our privacy so just saying that snowden is a criminal, i have an issue with it.

i also want to talk about the nsa. we are trying to look at tapping into people's phones. and just, in general, talking about trying to protect us, this power that you can listen to our phone calls, and a lot of people do not have anything to hide but when you start line into people's privacy, and you have this power to expose people, i am probably drifting off, but you cannot say that you are going to use telephone calls -- 9/11, not with people talking to each other on the phone so with this power, the government holding this power like they are going to protect them. it is all