that one bite of the apple, hillary clinton's contention that i will testify once. susan: let's talk about the irs. a sense of frustration from the chairman. stephen: it has been boiling up for a while. i think it was interesting that he, the fact that we are going to see the inspector general's report on the e-mails and backup tapes. that would be very interesting to see. he does sound like he does not believe -- i believe he used the words obstruction of congress. they will have a decision to make on how they pursue that and whether they asked the justice department to pursue criminal charges. the justice department turned that request down. it will be interesting if the ig comes up with those findings what they do.

susan: tuesday, the opm hacking case. we're getting any indication whether or not he is inclined that other countries are involved at this point? matt: the whisper campaign, it is china, but it is clear this is a massive hack of government data. from there you can extrapolate a lot of information. he's willing to issue subpoenas on this. he certainly seems to be taking it seriously. susan: thanks to both of you for being on newsmakers this week. >> director of clinical cardiology in boston, on the advances and heart surgery and the progress being made in the understanding of heart health. >> this is a valve that has been crimped onto this catheter that is now being positioned in the

to the diseased valve, and a new valve will be inserted inside the old calcified valve. the delivery system is being withdrawn, and the wire is being withdrawn, and what we have seen in this pictorial display is replacement of a diseased aortic valve in a manner that does not require open-heart surgery, so were trying to become smarter about predicting who will get disease. we are trying to become smarter as to identifying the most effective means to prevent or attenuate the disease, and then smarter about following up over a longer time. we are currently in an era where we are trying to harness the promise of the human genome research project, that has now

been in existence for more than a decade. with all the informatics that can be german by the giants of the industry like google for example, and information about sociology, sociology demographics, the likelihood to get diabetes on the basis of your educational background, and your likelihood of developing something like diabetes or hypertension if you live in a certain part of the city where you have less access to the right kind of food or even the right kinds of instructions about sodium consumption, little things like that they could have enormous impacts on population health. >> tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern and pacific on c-span's q&a. >> jeb bush is expected to declare his candidacy for president at an event tomorrow in miami. he was one of several potential candidates featured in an

interview series from the view him you are tv and manchester, new hampshire. the the governor talked about immigration, health care and foreign policy. this is 25 minutes. [applause] >> our guest is republican jeb bush. we will be getting to know god and abortion where he stands on the key issues. i will be asking some of the questions. after the break, we will have our studio jump in there with their questions in a town hall format. that's have a quick look at the potential candidates. jeff bush was born in midland texas in 1953. he graduated from the university of texas austin with a bachelor arts of arts in american studies before moving to miami florida in 1980 to start a former real

estate company. he served as florida's secretary of commerce and joined up with the miami urban league to establish one of the first charter schools liberty city. he was elected to the 43rd governor in 1980 and reelected in after leaving office the 2002. served as chairman of the conservative education reform organization with foundations for excellence in education and. recently launched a tax to support candidates that has supported a strong economic growth he lives in miami and is married with three grown children and three grandchildren. >> four grandchildren. [laughter] thank you for joining us. you have an insider's perspective how difficult a job being president must be. as you consider this, why do you want this gig? bush: we're at the intersection where if we fix a few complex things there is a lot of gridlock and dysfunction but if we fix it it is the most extraordinary time to be alive as an american. if we don't, we will be in decline. this is a moment in time where

of leadership matters and i believe i have the skills to convince people that i could lead, fix things, across the aisle to create a consensus how , we tax and regulate to deal with a broken system around us . >> you are asked about your dad and brother. how difficult is it a river -- to answer a question about how you feel,? bush: i have to get better i am loyal to my family i love my father and mother my brothers and my sister. it is part of who i am. it is it my dna. my brother doesn't care about decisions but i am it is

important to may provide all feel comfortable but i will get over that because i want to show people i want to talk about the future. so the key is with those republican presidents but it is important to learn so we don't make similar mistakes so we can move the country for word. moderator: talking about the iraq war hindsight, what would you have done differently? >> we could have said that maybe roosevelt should have engaged in the european part of world war ii more. if we had known that there were jews murdered by the nazi but 6 million obviously the power of hindsight is irrelevant but announcer: knowing what we know now those decisions based on faulty intelligence was a mistake and that doesn't mean we would have dealt with saddam hussein and in different circumstances and the world is better off without him in power. those losses should have been learned by the current president . by departing too early has created a void that has been

filled. this week to the ice this army -- the isis army took over ramadi. >> i wanted to repeat a question with interesting answer if he were president of united states who is your first phone call to? >> the leadership of congress how to recreate an agenda of most aggressive and republicans that is the only way you do the deal. how do we forge consensus so that we solve problems? how do we we the web of stability? how can rebuild trust to figure out we don't have to fight for those they're deeply held views. i think that is one of the

essential elements of our democracy. it doesn't work if it is always about the winner and loser. governors know how to do this, because they have to balance a budget, have to get their agenda through with bipartisan support. moderator: talk about immigration, for example. obviously a very divisive issue. how do you go across the aisle and say, let's come together and make this work. >> you have to have a president that people trust will adhere to the law. this president has signed executive orders that our unconstitutional and it will be proven that way. he is using this as a political wedge issue. there is no serious effort to reinforce the border or rule of law. you have to make a solid commitment that the law should be adhered to, and then make the case that shifting from a broken

legal immigration system to one that can be a catalyst for high-growth for all to benefit, i think that's a winning issue that has broad support among the american people. >> what model of immigration reform do you see as most acceptable and most likely to get done? bush: the canadian model which is narrow family petitioning and expand economic emigrants. half a million people come to this broadest definition in though world. we've had it for 45 years, and chain migration has crowded out economic emigrants. so if you expand the people coming for economic purposes, i think people would generally like that. create a guest worker program allow people to graduate from our great universities with a stem related degree to stay if they want to stay.

there is a lot of things that we could do for which there is broad support. and dealing with the 11 million people here illegally, the practical solution is to allow the people about to earn legal status, where they get a provisional work permit. they don't commit crimes pay a fine learning was, don't receive federal government assistance. they work. that is the solution to deal with a huge problem, which is what you do at 11 million people who are in our country. you can't deport them all. i think we can create a path where they earn their legal status and recognition in the fact that they came here illegally. moderator: we will take a quick break. we will be right back. stay with us. ♪ >> now, conversation with the candidate continues. moderator: welcome back with our "conversation with the candidate." . tonight's guesttonight's guest florida

former governor jeb bush. now we have the question from brian. >> governor bush, what qualifies you to be president among the current pool of candidates and considering the fact you have not been in public office ted for 10 years. bush: i am a business person starting with two people and it , is the largest full-service commercial real estate company. i would not discount business experience and in a job like a presidency to create a strategy and execute. i was one of the most successful governors in modern history , dealing in a purple state where i could act on , conservative principles to

apply them with 1.3 million net new jobs in a business environment. we're the only state to go to a aaa bond rating and created reserves of $10 billion. i brought a little discipline to the process and we reform schools like nobody's business and did a lot of things where principles were applied in the right way and i led. so i think that truly matters big issue will see the gridlock and nothing gets done because there isn't the leadership to forge consensus. i have stayed actively involved. we created a foundation to deal with reforms and that works in 40 states. we work here to pass a corporate scholarship program in new hampshire. i have then actively engaged to involved in business, and have been a successful governor. moderator: the next question. >> good morning, governor. if president, what would you do

differently with iran? >> the challenge in iran will be that the next president will likely have to determine whether we have a deal or not. most people believe that the president wants a deal so bad that he will just get one. it creates a real problem. depending on what the deal says as it relates to verification we are at least excepting iran is a threshold nuclear nation. the one thing that will happen is other countries in the region that feel threatened by iran, they will be concerned and make efforts to develop the same capability. imagine a world with the persian gulf countries and iran both having nuclear capabilities. it is one of the great challenges of our time. i hope this deal get scuttled. i hope that in the event that it

is done, it's verifiable. i hope the senate and congress act to be able to have a voice on this to disapprove it if necessary. i'm afraid all this stuff leads me to believe that we will eliminate sanctions the iranians will have this missile defense capability that the russians sold them a week after the initial agreement was announced. and they will have the ability to have a military deterrent or use sanctions as a weapon to try to get iran to join the community of nations. it's good to be minimized. it's hard to tell what the options are, but we need to be vigilant in the region and as it relates to the intentions of iran. they are sponsoring shia militias in iraq, sponsoring has the law the prime defender of this brutal regime. they are participating through

sponsorship from a faction in yemen of the complete, unsustainable situation there. they are helping fund support for hamas, and of course they are involved in trying to destabilize the persian gulf countries. this is not the kind of country that you can naturally think will be someone who will fulfill their agreements on any agreement that is forthcoming. >> thank you very much for the question. let's keep going. good to see you. >> you have been quoted as saying that the best way to a repeal of is to have an alternative. could you pleas tell me what that alternative would look like and how you would ensure that low income children and their parents here in new hampshire do not lose access to the care they currently receive? >> great question. politically, just being against something, you run out of gas at some point. i think people generally no that republicans are against obamacare.

there are a lot of good reasons why that's the case, but we have to be for things if we are going to be successful, govern, lead. first of all, as it relates to protecting those near or at the poverty level, we have programs that have nothing to do with obamacare. we protect those programs and they are important for low income families. a medicaid program should be a catalyst for improved health as well but unfortunately obamacare does not reform medicaid. it basically keeps the system that is broken. i think we ought to be shifting these programs back to the states, creating a certain amount of criteria around them, and allowing them to innovate to be able to create that are outcomes and more focused. in florida, we did this with an powered care for medicaid. we gave choices for low income people and the medicaid programs. we gave them counseling. we allowed them to pick the plan that best met the needs of their

families. we created a higher premium for those who had acute illnesses and the lower premium for those who were healthy. the net result was that we lowered costs, and in we got better care. as it relates to the broader obamacare issue, i think the exchanges, without all the mandates, is not a bad thing. it was a conservative entity that proposes a long time ago. we should not have employer mandates, employee mandates, all of the mandated benefits that create these extraordinaire costs. people often be able to have choices. i think ultimately we need to move to a consumer directed model for health care. we need to have low premiums, deductibles, where businesses and government wherever appropriate provide premiums and support. where you have catastrophic coverage. in effect, which are saying as a society is that if somebody has a life-changing illness, their family will be devastated for a long while. give people that these of mine but then give them choices and focus on preventing disease.

it is so extraordinarily expensive what we have now. i think we can do that for the other thing i would say is embrace the technology and art midst. i'm so proud of my iwatch. i have not been able to figure out how to use it yet, but i know five years from now that these kinds of devices can be used to monitor your health, to send wireless messages come in to make sure that if you're not taking your medicines right, your health caregiver knows. it will empower people to take control over their own health. ultimate, that is what we need to do. if we can do that, we can lower costs and improve the quality of care. >> let's take a question from social media. are you on social media, governor? >> follow me on twitter. but don't necessarily, all the

nice things that people say about me. being anonymous empowers people to be ugly. >> the question comes from peter. what will you do to stop isis from committing terrorist acts in the united states? >> we should approve the patriot act. this is what is so troubling to me. as time goes on, our memories fade. the passage of the patriot act a decade ago has been one of the tools that has kept us safe and cap is free. people just repeat the believe that somehow that our civil liberties are being violated. there is no evidence of that. there is not a single shred of evidence of that. people just keep repeating something and hope it will turn up to be accurate. it is not. there are safeguards to protect our civil liberties, but there is evidence that the programs in the patriot act have helped us to be safe. the first obligation of government is to protect our

shores to protect the homeland to keep us safe. that patriot act is one element of that. i would say first and foremost right here in the next few weeks, we need to pass the patriot act. separately, i would say we need to reengage in the region and the world. as we pull back, we are art of a community of nations and we now lead from behind. this language that is so uncommon for american leaders to talk about. we create a void. those boys are filled by islamic terrorism and by aggression. it's not a case of war or pulling back. there is a middle ground here that has been a bipartisan consensus, which is that we are leading, that american power is a force for good. we let him the chance of putting boots on the ground and minute women in harm's way if we are engaged in developed relationships with our allies, the a note we have their back,

starting with israel, and including the other traditional arab nations. that is how we regain our footing in syria and iraq. doesn't mean that we will have 100,000 troops on the ground but it does mean that people need to know we are serious about this, that we are engaged in this, that we will create a coalition to narrow isis's influence and then take them out. that can be done. it should not be for political purposes. i find it troubling, based on my watching history unfold from my perch, i find it troubling that everything seems to be politicized now. foreign policy has become poll driven. the minute there is a beheading the minute there is a terrorist attack, americans naturally begin to say, why are we in an environment that is not secure? presidents need to lead. presidents need to have a strategy. this president does not have a strategy as it relates to isis. >> thank you.

let's move forward. the next question comes from mike. >> i've urge you speak about energy and environment on the campaign trail. i've for that 80% of voters in new hampshire think energy policy is a priority. how do you relate energy, environment, and the economy? >> energy is the lifeblood of both. to get it right will allow us to have a commitment to conservation and a commitment to reduce carbon emissions, but also it allows us to re-industrialize the country, to give consumers the first good deal they have gotten in seven years. when you think about low energy prices, which is occurring in most places as a relates to our utility bills and surveyor gasoline prices, this is happened because of the energy revolution taking place in our country. i find it really interesting and i repeat this a lot, because

i do think that it does show the difference between people who believe in freedom and free markets, and people pursuing their dreams of they see fit compared to the progressives that think they are smarter than the rest of us and craft these proposals in ivory towers or in rooms where bureaucrats hang out in washington dc compare the revolution that is created the explosion of increase of natural gas that has brought lower prices for consumers, and now reinvestment to reinvest like the country, to the venture capital arm inside the department of energy. the stimulus was provided and a big boost with given to the department of energy and smart people from great university somewhere were put in a room and they said that we will pick the winners, solyndra, this company that company. it turns out that the free society where people were pursuing their dreams creates more innovation, better technology, better results than

the smart central planners. i think that lesson we should applying to energy policy overall. there are also as a credits, reductions sanctuaries, and also we created industrial policy as a relates to energy. i think we should phase all of those things out in the thought away and let the interaction amongst us and a desire to progress and conservation to be the two possible means by which we balance our economic interests, which we need to grow faster, and our environmental interests, which are important as well. >> we have only a few minutes left. next question, go ahead. >> governor bush, welcome back. you supported the ballot initiative in 2002 the required florida to provide access to free k for all the states for your old. is that a goal that allstate should set question mark if so what role would you play as president to encourage more access to early education? >> i think states ought to

decide that. in the florida case, this universal pre-k, voluntary pre-k , was a great idea, because we have a real strategy to ensure that more children were functioning illiterate by the end of the third grade. we were lagging behind for sure. florida has 57% of school age kids free and reduced once qualified. a lot of families struggling are in my beloved state. we thought that if you move to a literacy-based program and ended social promotion in the third grade, where your functionally literate, you don't go to third grade in florida, we would change the system come as a robust accountability with this effort to give four-year-olds and environment that is safe and where they were healthy, as well as focusing on literacy. training teachers to teach reading as well. all of that created the greatest gains in reading in any state in the country. we have 70% of our for-year-olds participating with government support in for your old

programs. it is the largest voucher program in the country, by the way, for those who do not think this is a conservative idea. 90% of the kids going to the programs are in private providers. it works. we had gains in learning that would define your imagination. so, i do think in the case of florida, it was the right thing to do. i don't think washington should be dictating anything to the government, but look, educating our children has to be a national priority. we have a result in this country that is abysmal. a third of our kids, maybe 40% of our children, our college or career ready. i know we have an 80% graduation rate in high school, but that is not relevant if you cannot get into college and start taking college-level courses. starting early and heavy robust accountability and empowering parents with choices, all of that i think is part of an effective strategy. >> we only have about a minute to go, but lots of you are probably wondering when they can

expect you to make this official or make a decision anyway? >> the decision is coming soon. i've been all over the place. i've been listening and learning a lot. we are getting to the point where i need to say yes or no. i'm excited about getting to that point so i can get going on this and start to be a little bit more direct about the ideas i have about the future of the country. >> moderator: have you learned anything? hillary clinton was surprised to learn that substance abuse with such an issue in this case. >> as governor, i always dealt with this huge tragedy that people don't talk about. i've learned about heroin addiction in new hampshire which is there is high-grade heroin that is important -- imported. this is a serious problem. we do have a soft underbelly in our country. there are a lot of challenges that people, to talk to me about because we know that we were involved in a when i was governor. >> we will continue discussion.

coming up with our "conversation with the candidate" series we have senator ted cruz and while we are signing off from television tonight, don't forget that this conversation continues online. you will find another 30 minutes of questions commercial free. thank you for watching. i'm great night. -- have a great night. [applause] ♪ >> c-span will have live coverage to more of florida governor jeb bush as he officially enters the presidential race by declaring his candidacy for the republican nomination. that will be live from miami beginning at 3:00 p.m. eastern on c-span three. more road to the white house coverage with donald trump, who is holding an event in new york city to announce his plans for

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