it's not left-right politics at all. this is really one of my passions because when i am not doing radio, i am not reading political books, i am reading deepak chopra. that's what really interests me. i have a venue now to bring that to the radio. i sometimes combine it with what i am doing on fox news radio. i think that the question you asked is who are we and what part of that can we bring to our audience. i think that is a very important question we should each ask ourselves because what part of ourselves do we want to reveal during the few hours a day we are on the air? michael: or what part of ourselves do we want to reveal to different audiences and channels. craig, i haven't forgotten that you're here. >> me neither. michael: what is it like being the program director of wabc with this immense history behind you.

>> thanks for having me. it has been a great group here. every year, i think i learn a lot and that everybody take something away from this conference. wabc versus wpro in providence i don't think the challenges are that much different. the audience is bigger. the spots sell for more. the talent are at a different level in the sense of they have to perform in a larger stage. the talent in providence were very talented. the talent in new york are very talented. that doesn't change. you still have the concerns over

marketing, you still want to sign the talent to the right agreement. you still want the talent to be productive and do them -- and have them do the best show they possibly can. those battles aren't different providence to new york. or des moines to new york or whatever. you still have a transmitter that goes down in the middle of the night in des moines, you have that in new york. you still have sales concerns and sales managers to work with and be productive with and try to find your spot and find the things that are going to matter. those conversations are the same in the hallways of providence as they are in new york. i think the difference for me is just that there is a different pulse in new york city. there is a different expectation in new york. both of those stations are heritage brands. like mr. dickey said earlier

you want to be the custodian of them. i take the heritages very seriously. it's what a lot of us listen to. we listened to 77 growing up and yankees games or cousin thursday -- brucie. i grew up in the midwest. those big sticks meant a lot to me. this big stick means a lot to me. i take it extremely seriously. i take our talent seriously. i take our approach to promotions and marketing seriously. that's what it has to be. that's what it has to be for all of us. it's an exciting time. it's something i hold very dear

and it's something that i'm very grateful to be a part of. michael: you bring up something very interesting. i have programmed in the biggest markets and i have also programmed in some small ones. i have found that the biggest mistake a major market radio person can do is to think just because they're in a big market that somehow they know more or they are better than the people running small stations. or somehow, small-market have small people. all markets have big people with big egos and lots of power and cliques. it's hard to program radio in a small town. there are amazing obstacles when you come in with your big-city ways and you think you have all the answers. chris, we will let you wrap up the big picture. as i have followed you over the years, here you are in 2015. you have been around the track a lot and you are not the same young fellow i knew 15 or 20

years ago. what's your assessment of the big picture? what do we as radio broadcasters need to be concerned with going forward? >> i think what we have to be concerned now moving forward is not making the excuses that we have sort of made a habit of in the past. the point i have always made about things is that there have been radio stations in ppm that have been number one long before volterra. sometimes, we tried to pick on one thing and make it all about that one thing and we lose sight of the big picture. that's not good for any industry. the thing i'm most passionate about, i actually think nielsen will get it right and i actually think average quarter hour rating points, not share, for broadcast radio will increase. that will be great for business. michael: everyone, thank you so

much. let's have lunch. [applause] >> >> monday night on the communicators, we visited a tech fair on capitol hill. we spoke with yelp's lourenco renshaw -- laurent crenshaw and many others. >> when a business owner doesn't like a review of their business say they will -- and say they will sue or threaten to sue. you are the little guy. you might not have the money to go to court over what you wrote

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[applause] mr. isaacson: when i told president carter we had an overflow crowd he said they all came for rosalynn, so thank you for being here as well. the 39th president of the united states and mrs. carter. welcome back to aspen. [applause] i'll start with a quick story, because kathy and i are here because of president carter. after you won the nobel prize, you were an honoree and she said, i bought tickets to that dinner.

and it was at that dinner they asked me to work at the aspen institute. [applause] president carter: if he's not doing a good job, it's my fault. mr. isaacson: believe it or not, president carter is now 90. this book is called "reflections at 90." he said i went to russia last year, pretty active life both of you have. i wanted to start by looking at some travels you've done recently in this wonderful book, talking about your trip to the middle east that you just came back from. where did you go?

president carter: a couple of months ago i went to russia, we met with gorbachev and met with putin for about three hours and i asked him questions and he responded. i might say he made a very good impression on us. he was pretty aware of all the difficult issues. he never turned to his foreign minister for any answer he gave the answers himself. he was relaxed he had a good sense of humor, a surprise to all of us. mr. isaacson: he had a sense of humor? give us an example. president carter: he said the europeans need to lift the sanctions, he said i'm making