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intelligence oversight with gary hart and former vice president walter mondale. at 11:00, another chance to see our convert -- our conversations with don ritchie and ray smock on "q&a". this week in the british house of commons, prime minister david cameron talked about the rising death toll of british nationals killed in terror attacks. he took questions about the use of islamic state to describe extremist costs -- extremist groups, and reducing costs. >> order. questions to the prime minister. angela. >> the prime minister's plan. >> i am sure the house will join
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with me in congratulating england on reaching the semi finals in the world cup and wishing them well in their match against the pan. mr. speaker, this morning i had meetings with colleagues. i shall have further such meetings later today. >> angela crawley. >> the prime minister stands for english sports and laws will reduce the rates of scottish mps -- >> order. the honorable lady must and will be heard. angela crawley. >> the prime minister's plan for english laws will adjust my rates and the rates of other scottish mps in the house of commons. the real issue is my ability to protect the interest of my constituents. will the prime minister guarantee that under his plan, a
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bill that has direct or indirect effect on scotland's budget will not be certifiable as england's only? david cameron: i welcome to the honorable lady. we will publish our proposal shortly. parliament will have plenty of time to consider and vote on them. but we are not creating a system of two tears for mps. all mps will still vote on all bills. what we say is, laws that only apply in england should only pass if they are supported by a majority of english mps. it seems to me, a system where scottish msp's can determine their own future on health and housing and an increasing number of subjects, fairness across our united kingdom. >> stewart. >> yesterday, the national
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office called for the introduction of a error school funding formula so it is related more closely to people's needs and less affected by where they live. can the prime minister confirmed today that the additional and very welcome 300 90 million pounds awarded last year as a first step towards a fairer funding system will be incorporated into the baseline for future years? david cameron: we will implement the pledges in our manifesto on this issue, because we do need to make funding fairer across the country. if you look at the figures today, it is clearly unfair that a school in one part of the country can receive over 50% more funding than an identical school in another part of the country. we have already made progress on this. but i want us to go further. >> harriet. >> i will join the protest are in congratulating england's
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women's football team. with only a fraction of the resources the men get, they are showing the men how it is done. mr. speaker, we now know that 22 british citizens have been confirmed dead in that two nisi a attack. -- the tunisia attack. the bereaved have experienced trauma. the only long-term practical and emotional support. the experience was, to really affect -- help affected families, their need to be coordination across agencies. will you establish a dedicated task force reporting to a minister, to support those who suffered in these terrible attacks? david cameron: i can give the honorable lady that assurance. i am sad to say, the confirmed number of british citizens killed in this appalling attack is now 27. as we have said, we expect it to
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rise further. today, we are repatriating eight bodies from tunisia. the plane will land this afternoon. every family of a victim has a dedicated officer. i can confirm what she asked and i have asked the secretary on advice to make sure work is coordinated across government to provide all the support the victims of this a polling attack deserved, and also to make sure that, as a nation, we commemorate this event appropriately. >> harriet. >> i think that is an important step. we fully support it and thank those who will be working in that respect. a report in the last few days suggests it wasn't just a lone gunman, but an organized cell. holding the home secretary -- following the home secretary's appointment of british police officers, any update us on the progress being made in
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identifying the perpetrators and bringing them to justice? david cameron: there is still a lot of work to be done to identify all of the circumstances of this appalling attack. and the support the government received. as we get the information, i will make sure the house is updated. in terms of the discussions between my honorable friend the home secretary and the two nisi and's -- the tunisians, this is looking at security in hotels and resorts, all the way through cooperation of the highest levels between the two governments to help with their capacity to combat events like this. it will need a lot of long-term work between our countries, but we also have the french and germans and americans willing to help. we need to coordinate between ourselves how best to support this country on its road to democracy. >> the prime minister has rightly said that this was an attack on our values and
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everything we stand for, and there is radicalization in this country, too. last november, the intelligence and security committee said that the prevent programs have not been given sufficient priority and the counter radicalization programs are not working. today, a new statutory duty to challenge radicalization comes into effect. will there be sufficient training and support for those covered by the duty? and will be looking in at the concerns of the prevent program has not sufficiently focused on engaging with the community? david cameron: the honorable lady raises important issues. first of all, in terms of prevent, we have put more money and resources into that program. secondly, the statutory duty on public sector, i think this is important. we are saying to schools and universities and authorities they have a duty to deal with radicalization and confront extremism. this is an effort that is not just for police and security, or
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just for the government. it is an effort for us all. in terms of her specific weston which goes back to whether it was right to split the prevent work into work that is done to deal with eckstrom is a mantra the home office, and programs to encourage integration, which can be done by the communities and local government department, i maintain that was the right decision. it followed a review by alex carlyle, who found that there have been cases where groups that support extremist ideologies have received funding. it is important as we discussed in this house on monday, that that does not happen. yes, we should work with community groups, but not those that encourage an extremist narrative. >> is important the prime minister doesn't just defend the decisions he has made, but continues to reflect on these, and really try to make absolutely sure he gets it right. if you does that, -- if you does
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that, we will strongly support him on that. mr. speaker, the prime minister, if i can turn to another issue with all party support, the prime minister commissioner davis report to look at airport capacity. now that the commission has recommended a third runway at heathrow, does he agree that, subject to environmental testing, there should be no further delay, and they should go ahead? will he take that forward? david cameron: first of all, let us all think that team for a thorough piece of work they have done. i think there is a lot of common ground across all sides of the house, or almost all sides, that there is a need for additional airport capacity in the southeast of england, not least to maintain this country pause competitiveness. but it is important now that there is a detailed report that we study, and i am clear about the legal position that if we say anything now, before studying the report, actually,
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you could endanger whatever decision is made. the guarantee i can give to the honorable lady is that a decision will be made by the end of the year. >> harriet. >> he says there is common ground. there is. the worry is, the lack of common ground on his side. he says there will be, he gives the impression there is going to be a proper process. there is something different coming out of number 10. they think it is not going to happen. it looks like the prime minister has been overruled by the members from a bridge. -- uxbridge. he is not the leader of the tory party yet. can i ask the prime minister will he stand up for britain's interest, or will he be bullied? david cameron: i would have thought, with her years of experience, the honorable lady
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would know not to believe in -- everything she reads in the mornings newspapers. for blood pressure, as well as mine, let me give the mildest warnings of jumping to conclusions before seeing the results. a classic example last week, when the shadow health secretary warned the government that the poverty figures would make us hang our heads in shame. that was before the poverty figures were published, showing the poverty was at its lowest level since the 1980's. >> harriet. >> he seems to be keen to it off the issue of airports. it seems like he is in a holding pattern about heathrow, and you can't land. mr. speaker, our economic infrastructure is essential for future jobs, growth, and our productivity. this week, we have seen the government pull the plug on
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electrification of railways, and undermine the renewable energy sector. now, they are backing off airports. they are risking losing the opportunity of britain being at the heart of the global economy. if he makes a swift decision on the davis report we will support him, and there will be a majority in the house. will he put britain's national interests first? david cameron: it is an interesting day with the leader of the conservative party wants to talk about child poverty in the leader of the opposition wants to talk about airports. a report that none of us have had time to read. i seem to remember that the last leader of the labour party, although we have been turning to review recently, had a totally different position on airports than the one she is now putting forward. what i consider the honorable lady is, we will read the report any decision will be made by the end of the year.
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[shouting] >> mr. speaker, my constituents have asked for fast broadband to help with education, agriculture and business. willie help ensure [inaudible] david cameron: let me welcome my right honorable friend to his feet. before coming here, he was a successful district counselor, and help to achieve many things. i am sure he will bring good housekeeping to this place. he is right to raise the issue of superfast broadband and how we fill in the last 5-10% of homes, particularly in rural areas. we are providing extra funding and looking at different technology that can help deliver this. >> angus robertson. >> myself of the scottish national party, with attributes and condolences connected to the
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tragedy in africa. because of the way the united kingdom is structured, decisions on health and education and much english legislation has an impact on the scottish budget. will the prime minister confirm that he plans to exclude scottish mps from parts of the democratic process, that will have an impact on scotland? david cameron: the point i would make to the honorable gentleman is that mps, english mps, are excluded from any discussion for scottish housing and education. what we are proposing is actually, a very measured and sensible step, which says that when there is a bill that only affects, for instance, england the committee stage should be of english mps, but the whole house will vote at report stage, and indeed, at the reading stage. this will introduce a system for making sure the wishes of english mps cannot be overruled.
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i think that is only fair in a system when the scottish parliament and welsh parliament and northern ireland -- northern irish part -- parliament have increased powers. >> it is interesting, because of the scotland bill, 58 out of 59 scottish mps want the legislation to be strengthened. they have outvote -- been outvoted by the english. not content with scottish mps elected on a mandate to strengthen the scottish bill, they do not want second-class status. on issues that can impact the scottish budget, even planning to make the membership of the scottish affairs select committee a minority pursuit for scottish mps. is that what the prime minister means when he says there is a respect agenda? david cameron: everything will
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thing lord smith represented in terms of welfare has gone into the bill. it is interesting that he object to a vote in the u.k. parliament on a u.k. issue, which is what has happened. bulimia say this, instead of endlessly talking about the process, isn't it time that the mp started talking about how he will use these powers? tell us which welfare benefits you want to put up. which taxes do you want to increase? why don't you start to tell us? i have been following this debate closely. none of scotland's 59 mps are arguing that the state pensions should be divulged. in other words, the principal of sharing our resources across the united kingdom, which i believe in as leader of the united kingdom, is apparently shared by the scottish national party. >> thank you, mr. speaker. my constituents showed great courage during the massacre last
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week by saving the lives of injured victims. can the prime minister measure the extremism bill, to stand up for our values of democracy and respect to minorities? david cameron: let me take the opportunity of praising her constituent and the skills we look -- the skills we used on that dreadful day. our bills will reinforce the work we have done to increase funding into counterterrorism and policing to make sure we have a duty on public authorities to combat radicalization. and then, to go after the issue of the pack that there are groups and individuals that are very clever at endorsing extremism, and stopping one step short of actually condoning terrorism. that is what the new orders we are looking at, are aimed to achieve. we are clear that people who support the extremist narrative, they were -- they have no place
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in public debate. >> mark. >> given regional profiles, many families in northern ireland will identify with the concerns from the four children's commissioners today on tax credits. heating those wider warnings will the prime minister have the chancellor take particular care to ensure that no supposedly more targeted changes to child benefits or tax credits will end up being misdirected against natural, everyday, cross-border working families and in my constituency? david cameron: levy say to the honorable gentleman, we can talk about cross-border working families. it is still the case that welfare arrangements are the u.k. are more generous than what is available in the republic of ireland. our view is clear. the right answer is to create jobs, to cut taxes raise living
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standards, and reduce welfare. i want an economy that is high pay, low taxes, and low welfare. instead of low pay, high taxes and high welfare. let me share with the house one statistic which i think is important. under the last government, the labor government, the number of working -- i don't know you want -- i know you don't want to talk about the labor government. under the less government, inequality fell. [shouting] let's go back to the less labor government. under labor, the number of working-age people in poverty rose by around 20%. that was at the same time that welfare spending on people in work went up from 6 billion pounds to 28 billion pounds. this shows that the labor model of taking money off people in
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tax, recycling it back to them and tax credits has not worked. it is time for a new approach of creating jobs, cutting taxes and allowing businesses to create livelihoods we need. >> thank you, mr. speaker. having authored a letter signed by over 120 members of parliament from across the house to the prime minister and to the bbc, not to call the so-called islamic state isil or isis, the issue remains. can the prime minister lead the way by officially calling it something else that is acceptable to muslims around the world? david cameron: my honorable friend makes a strong point. islamic state is appropriate this is not islamic and not a state. it is terrorists.
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i am happy for people to use sd dash. until yesterday, the bbc was calling it islamic state. but it looks like they will change their approach. i welcome that. >> giving the vital importance of parliament and members on all sides of the house, from all parts of the united kingdom able to hold properly and effectively the government of the day to a count, and the prime minister confirm whether he confirms -- he intends to reduce the size of the house of commons to 600 members? david cameron: i am committed to the conservative manifesto to complete the work that should've been done them last parliament so we have equal size constituency and a smaller size of the house of commons and cuts -- cut the cost of politics. >> due to issues around the rise
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of software accounting systems i believe many honest, decent, hard-working people have lost their reputations, their livelihoods, their savings, and in the worst cases, their liberty. this is a national disgrace, mr. speaker. will my honorable friend consider the request from members across the house for a judicial inquiry into the matter, and when it to a conclusion deck of -- a conclusion? david cameron: i know he has debated in the house on that. the post office's answer is to say that they set up and independent a worry which is not found evidence of wrongdoing but clearly, this is not satisfying to -- members on all sides who have seen individual cases and want better answers. i think my right honorable friend the permanent undersecretary of business department should complete a meeting involving numbers of his house and postmasters to discuss
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what happens next. i hope it would not be necessary to have an independent judicial inquiry to get to the bottom of the issue, but we must get to the bottom of it. >> mr. speaker. i reflect on prime minister's questions with colleagues and others. after all its faults, and there are many, i would say there are two important points. it puts the prime minister on the spot to the public. it also, i would say come up with the government on the spot for the prime minister. it is an important mechanism of accountability, needing to know issues across every department before coming to the house at 12:00 on a wednesday. >> graham allen. >> given that parliament may be moving in 2020, with the prime minister take the opportunity to share the joys of prime ministers questions, and federal parliament, by convening in each of the nation's -- each of the
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nations of the united kingdom, and thereby symbolizes government and this parliament's commitment to both the union and the evolution? david cameron: david cameron: i am trying to cut the cost of politics. i don't think that would help. it is important we take politics and issues to all the different regions of the country, and that is something the government is very committed to doing, not least with our regional economic plans for every region of the country. as for the future of this house of commons and where we stand and where we debate, that is a matter for the house of commons. but i have to say, i have an attachment to this place. [shouting] >> they of worn paperthin. it is an example of
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parliamentary accountability. while our constituents rightly feel that at times, secession is absurd, does my right honorable friend agree that we equate pity if the members of the executive were not held to account in that way? david cameron: i agree with my honorable friend. i remember taking some constituents on a tour when i first became a member of parliament. savannah haven't known, which is when this chamber was bombed, some of the most important speeches and parliamentary a corrosion -- occasions, to place some place other than here. i will leave it at that. >> neil gray. >> thank you, mr. speaker. the prime minister has been asked repeatedly about his plans to exclude scottish mps room decisions -- from decisions indirectly and directly. will he finally tell this house
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and the people of scotland whether it is right to create a second class status for scottish mps? or is he content to press ahead with plans that will bring about [inaudible] david cameron: i thought the point was, they wanted to exclude themselves from the u.k. parliament forever. i thought that was the point. what we are putting in place is a fair and balanced system that is fair to all parts of our united kingdom, and long may it stay together. >> think you, mr. speaker. -- thank you, mr. speaker. over the past five years increasing numbers of people in the midlands and across the u.k. have been deciding to take the courageous and important step of setting up their own businesses and becoming self-employed. what steps will the prime minister and the government take in the future to further support these entrepreneurs in my
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constituency and beyond, who represent and personify aspiration and hard work? david cameron: let me welcome my honorable friend to his place. i agree with him people taking that step to become self-employed, to start up their own business, has been a big part of the jobs and enterprise revolution we have seen in our country over the last five years. things like startup loans have made a difference. that is why we are increasing them in this parliament. i do think it is important, when we look at helping self employed people, to look at all the aspects of being self-employed how you interact with pensions and benefits and maternity leave, and public authorities and rules around social housing. that is why i asked julie dean, the founder of the cambridge satchel company, to lead a review for the government on the ways we can help self employed people get going. >> thank you, mr. speaker. given the prime minister's commitment to localism, will he
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stand by and respect the decision made by lancashire county council rejecting fracking? yes or no. david cameron: these are decisions that must be made by local authorities in the proper way, under the planning regime we have. personally, i hope over time, will be -- there will be unconventional gas site that go-ahead, in lancashire and elsewhere. i want to see our country exploit all the national resources we have. i want to keep energy bills down and i want us to be part of the revolution that can create thousands of jobs you read i also want to make sure that, where we can exploit our own gas reserves, rather than ship gas on the other side of the river -- other side of the world, we should do that. if the labor party wants to paint itself into a background of not wanting any unconventional gas at all, i think they should say so. >> mr. speaker, counsel received
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a report for not doing enough to help strong schools under their control. can the prime minister tell us what the government intends to do to make sure that systemically failing schools like reading do >> i think my friend is right to raise this because, frankly one extra turn in a failing school is too long for our children. i think in the past governments have been too tolerant of a -- allowing schools continue to fail year after year. this government has said very testing regime for failing schools, for those that are inadequate and also as the education secretary set out we will do similar things to schools that we define as coasting. that could be doing better. frankly, you can now see the model of where an academy chain takes over a failing school, changes some of the leadership of the simplest the things that are necessary. you can seek radical increase in

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