out there, how do you -- how about social security, how many of you want to be a scary -- social security? what would i do to save social security, whatever it took. when i was younger, my mother died, then my father died, we owned a restaurant and a pool room. my mother had hodgkin's disease. if it were not from a and and uncle helping the raise my sister if it was not for my family and friends and faith, i would not be sitting here today. without social security to help my family because my sister was a minor i'm 60 years old, i'm not married, i do not have any kids. what would i do to save social

security almost anything. i have already given up my benefits for those who need it more. i work with democrats to save social security, because if we do not, we are all going down together. [applause] [applause] remember ronald reagan and tip o'neill, they adjusted in the 1980's to save social security. barack obama has done nothing but talk. he threw it in the garbage can you cannot cut the left something they do not want to hear. i will say what is best and i will get in the middle if that is what it takes to save the country. [applause] [applause] frank: you raise it and i have not done it as much as i would have liked to, you lost your

parents at a very early age. they would have been sitting right there and they would have seen that their son is a united states senator and a candidate for the president of the u.s. what we tell them -- what would you tell them? mr. graham: that charlie -- darlene are not really good -- turned out really good. [applause] [applause] mr. graham: and i tried hard and thanks to you i have come a long way. love is not the size of the house, it is what happens inside the house. i was well loved for all kids not well loved, i feel sorry for you. this is a leadership council, we

are all one car wreck away from needing somebody's help. there is a time and place for government. i am glad that i had college loans for my sister, i'm glad that social security was there if i got to be president of the u.s. i would make sure that we did the right thing and hard in, because the country needs a leader and barack obama has been a failure as president. [applause] [applause] -- frank: what does that make me? mr. graham: makes you a

billionaire. frank: we are looking at what happened in the v.a. hospitals how does it get this bad? mr. graham: monopolies are bad. when you're in a monopoly, things get bad. let's not slam everybody in the v.a., but let's admit that the system is a monopoly. this is what america will look like if we keep going on obama care. this is where we are heading. the number one job for the next president and the one after that , if you do not take care of your veterans, how can you do it? for veterans out there, i would give you a card to go to any doctor, any hospital you would like to. and if the v.a. serves you well, you keep going there.

i give you choice. competition is the only way to make the v.a. better. [applause] [applause] frank: so i did not not happen why not pass it through the house and senate and have the president signed it -- sign it? mr. graham: it is hard to convince people to give up government hospitals. there is some choice if you choose a hospital within certain miles of the clinic. and you have to wait 30 days. what you need is a president of the u.s. who will say, we are going to change the system and i dare you to get in my way. [applause] speaking of veterans, john mccain was one of the guys who pushed the system that we have today. he is the chairman of the armed services committee, i am glad that he is. he is my friend.

he has served our country in a unique way. senator mccain, through him i met incredible people those pows. [applause] he was captured, but i don't think he was a loser. [applause] we have had a discussion today about being captured and about service. if you really want to be commander in chief and you are serious about that job, the last and you would ever do is say anything that would show disrespect for anybody who served. [applause] [applause] i just retired from the air force after 30 years and let me tell you, who i think is an

american hero, the family that stays behind. [applause] the spouse who is raising the children while the mom or dad is deployed. i have been a military lawyer. i know exactly what families go through. when the phone rings at night coming jump out of your skin. when a car comes up the tribe way, your heart skips a beat. john mccain and every other p.o.w. deserves our respect and our admiration. [applause] frank: you have to ask if he does not apologize to senator mccain, does that disqualified in your mind donald trump from being a candidate?

mr. graham: i believe in democracy, don't you? let me tell you how it works the good people of iowa, of new hampshire, and of south carolina will figure this out. and here is what i think they will say, donald trump you are fired. [laughter] [applause] frank: there is no way to follow up that question. audience, go to microphone three. >> think when we look in the mirror, the enemy is us, because we buy the oil from the middle east countries that give them the money to buy guns and train isis. we have enough oil in our

country, why can we not get the keystone deal done, let's get this country moving again. [applause] mr. graham: i am tired of borrowing money from a communist dictatorship to find our government. that is why i want to get us out of debt. the baby boomers will want security checks and medicare bills paid. the bottom line is, we will wipe out those and become greece because we are down to two workers to every retiree. by 2030, all caps is you pay will pay for medicare and interest on the debt, if we do not reform retirement, if we do not flatten it out and get money

, we will lose the american dream. i am not going to let that happen as i am president. as to energy, i would build a pipeline and so what other republicans. i would explore oil and gas off the coast, because there is a lot to be found. if we got it, i want it. [applause] but you asked the question, why does not hillary clinton want to build a pipeline? you have 16 people to choose from, here is the tip, if we cannot be hillary -- beat hillary, it is over. i can beat her. let me tell you why. i have been to the oilsands.

if you look at something new she is not it. -- if you are looking for something new, she is not it. if you like the 6.5 years -- if you do not like the last 6.5 years, you will not like the next four years with her. her definition of flat broke and mine are a bit different. [laughter] [applause] i can show you flat broke and after two terms in the white house, that is not it. we need to beat her. i think i can. i think at the end of the day she has been the architect for the foreign policy, getting a straight answer out of her about iran is like pulling teeth. it is easier to touch to the leader of north korea ban -- it

is easier to talk to the leader of north korea. i will ask her about the pipeline and i will ask her about the ungodly -- where the hell -- benghazi -- where the hell were you? how could you allow it to become a death trap? how could you not know? why did your people say five times, no security and why did you lie to the american people about how they died? [applause] [applause] mr. graham: then we will talk about obamacare. she sold it better than he did. frank: that was a good answer on the pipeline.

that was a standing ovation. mr. graham: i only hope we are cheering in 2016. >> good afternoon, i'm here with my friends julie, because we are leaders of a health club. we know that one of the greatest pushes was the emergency plan for a relief that has -- aids relief that has saved lives. under the obama prime minister should, that program has been cut and last week the committee that you lead sales give funding keep our program on track and we are wondering if you are wondering -- wondering if you will live up to your promises of giving millions dollars by the end of the year? mr. graham: i don't know if i

can close that gap, but i will try. do you remember george w. bush? i met him. about 10 years ago, i cannot remember exactly when, early on in his presidency he invested $40 billion over a. of time to fight aids -- $40 billion over time to fight aids. many missions went to africa. don't you think that god blesses you with your help in the least among us. let me tell you about lindsey graham, africa, and helping people. that $40 billion that we spent saved an entire generation of african children and now we are dealing with malaria. 75% reduction in mothers to

children transfer of aids babies are alive today because you helped them. rick warren and all the ngo's, on the ground in africa, god bless you. i am president we will restore that funding, but if you do not deal with the entitlement problem where all the money goes to pay medicare and social security, there will not be a dime left for the military. the dime left to help people in africa. the reason i want to help people in africa, because it will make things safer here. america is best when she is leading the world. when it comes to radical islam here is my policy, whatever it

takes as long as it beats these guys. how do you defeat them? keep them from praying -- p reying on the poor. you build a schoolhouse for a remote village, which is a bigger threat. this is a generational struggle. these are religious nazis. they have to be degraded and eventually destroyed and the way we will do it is part of people in the region. we will help them help themselves and build those defenses between ourselves and radical islam. we will rebuild our defense system and go after these actors and kill every one of them -- bastards and kill every one of

them if we need to. [applause] [applause] sorry for the bad word. [laughter] frank: that was a word i was not allowed to use today, so i'm glad that you did. mr. graham: cannot wait to be the leader of the free world i'm tired of leading from behind. i am tired of cutting our military. we have the smallest army sends 1940, does that make sense? we have the smallest maybe since 1916. we need to rebuild the military, send them back over to partner with other equal and take the gloves -- with other people, and take the gloves off. and we will set this iran deal

aside. to our friends in israel, you will have a partner in the white house, not an enemy. to the ayatollah, you will not get a penny unless you change your behavior. when it comes to a nuclear program, you will not have a bomb, and if you choose to go down that path and you want a war with the u.s., you will lose. frank: senator lindsey graham. there is no way i can close better than that. [applause] [applause] mr. graham: thank you very much. ♪ >> please welcome to iowa and the leadership summit and louisiana governor bobby jindal.

[applause] [applause] governor jindal: thank you. frank: this is the first candidate i have not had a chance to sit with before we begin. i need to warn people that i am suffering from laryngitis and there might be a moment in the next 20 minutes when i will depart, and has nothing to do with him, i just do not want to mess this up. i know that you are frustrated with the court, with the legislative branch, and that you are frustrated with the president, which of those three

branches do you feel best represents what you think and the one that you feel is closest to you? you have to choose one. you don't get to choose none. the executive branch, not president obama, but of the three branches, who says the executive branch? [laughter] frank: it is mrs. obama i guess. it is closer to the legislative branch? -- who is closer to the legislative branch? [applause] [applause] frank: and the judiciary? [laughter]

[applause] frank: what is the proper role or the relationship between the three branches, because the new president will have to set a new tone? governor jindal: i think that is a tough question, we have a president who has made it a consistent practice to ignore laws and as a conservative, we do not accept that presents -- precedents. my first day as president, i will go back to the rule of law. [applause] [applause] frank: people have been watching all day and they know this, this is not a campaign appearance but nobody wants to get sued so you should say, as the future

president. the greatest -- governor jindal: the greatest violation we have seen is that in one week, they couldn't be bothered to read the constitution. [applause] [applause] i said, we might as well get rid of the courts to save money. hillary clinton did not like that. i'm reasonable, let's get rid of 2/3 of the court, there are three of them i do not mind been. we need justices that do not look at opinion polls. they need to apply the constitution, not anything else. [applause] [applause] and no earthly court can change the definition for me the

definition of marriage. it is between a man and a woman. we need structural changes, we need term limits and we need to stop them from becoming lobbyists. [applause] [applause] frank: what happens when the court makes a decision that you do not like. ? the court decided what a marriage is, will you ignore that? governor jindal: i like the way that you asked the first time. the next president, i'm getting better, the next president should do what we did in louisiana, issue in executive order immediately. it's a that the federal government will not take action against any individual or business that has a traditional view of marriage. we will not ruin their taxes, we will not fire them. the next president will appoint as many as four supreme

justices. nobody was wondering, we are here because of robert and kennedy. the democrats, when they nominate justices, they nominate liberals and make no apologies for it. when republicans nominate justices we -- our presidents pretend, we will find somebody who has never made a ruling and we will pretend that we have no idea what they believe. but i will nominate a conservative, i will find something from the federal society -- [applause] [applause] governor jindal: i want eight comments -- a thomas, certainly do not want any of the other work -- other four.

frank: we will start questions in a moment. i want to be clear that you are saying even if the supreme court says this is the law of the land , you are prepared if you are the next president it should say -- you should say, sorry you are wrong. governor jindal: clearly and they are wrong, they cannot change what god has instituted. gives us our 10th amendment rights back, i am for what defines marriage being between a man and a woman. that is why i am an executive order and a law that reinforces -- this is not a new law. we have religious liberty rights. the government should not be able to fire me, they should not be able to discriminate against me for being a christian and

wanting to live my life recorded my beliefs. [applause] [applause] [applause] frank: i want to erase something that could be difficult. i am familiar with your career early in your career you faced discrimination. and some believe that you did not get one of the offices that you sought, because the people voted based on your ethnicity be -- rather than your ideas and record. can you explain what it is like to go through that, to know that you deserve that job, but

because of your ethnicity you are being denied it? governor jindal: i do think that the democrats tried to discriminate, they attacked me for being a christian and try to save calls things, but my experience -- and tried to save calls things -- false things about me. we are not african or asian americans, we are all americans. and this is important for me not only as a governor, or a father we have many victims in this country, i am not a victim. i think i am the best candidate

i wouldn't run if i did not. i will win not based on the color of my skin but on my experience and the fact that i want to take on the establishment, both parties, to get us off the path of socialism. [applause] [applause] frank: we will go to questions with someone in the front left. welcome to iowa. governor jindal: thank you, it's warm but it's paradise. >> this is a question related to the existing culture. what should the next president do to restore, take, and continue to maintain my freedoms in my liberties and that of everybody else in this

auditorium? governor jindal: that's a great question. in terms of restoring liberties, there are at least three things the next president has to do. number one right now, the left is trying to take god out of the public square. they are trying to secularize our country and i have said this before -- i will keep saying this until hillary clinton understand it -- america did not create religious liberty. religious liberty created the united states of america. [applause] the next president has to be ready to fight the new york times, the aclu, the washington

post and whoever gets in our way so we don't give up our first amendment rights secondly, we've got to rein in the irs print we need a lower and flatter tax code so they don't run our lives. [applause] third, we need to explicitly tell these bureaucracies what they are not allowed to do. the department of education has no business with common core in our classrooms. [applause] the epa has no business trying to regulate water in your backyard. [applause] they have no right to take away your second amendment rights to own firearms. [applause] i am so sick and tired of all the scandals, i'm ready for these bureaucrats to lose their jobs and their benefits and go to prison. [applause]