we outlaw lobbyists? [applause] governor walker: one of the ideas that does not go quite there but to the heart of what you are getting at. i started out yesterday in a 99 county tour. i am doing a full -- we are doing all 99 counties. we have a winnebago. i was in council bluffs and sioux city earlier. cedar rapids yesterday. part of what i talked about earlier, i talk about the three pillars of our campaign. reform, growth, safety. we talk about reform, one of the things we did in wisconsin was to take power out of the hands of big government special interests and put it into the

hands of taxpayers. the economy is better. fewer unemployed. balanced budget. those are better. -- schools are better. the parallel nationally, federal government, moved to take power out of washington. send it back to states and cities so it gets as close to the people as possible. when you do that, it it is more effective, more efficient. classic example, by taking money from education and sending it back to des moines or your local schools, the benefit is it gets rid the controversy over con glencore -- overcome in court. i don't want that. i want the money back to local schools where parents can make that decision. you are better to hold your neighbors accountable on your local boards then you can buy dealing with people in washington.

i think that will help the heart of your problem. [applause] frank: your campaign has focused, more than any of them on hard-working taxpayer risk. what are the policies that flow from that? governor walker: i think a good start would be to look at what president reagan did in 1986 when i was in high school. having two lore margin rates. -- lower margin rates. i talk about buying closethes kohls. you lower rates, broaden the base. more people participate in the economy. today, instead of the laffer

curve, i call it the kohls curve. to move forward, we should look back at the midnight worked effectively -- look back at something like that that worked effectively. we need to lower the burden on job creators so we can bring jobs back from overseas and put americans back to work. [applause] >> hello, mr. walker. an honor to speak with you. i think this current administration has shown us how important it is to pick a good running mate. [laughter] >> i'm curious which standard he would hold your running mate to. frank: what should the next presidential -- governor walker: it is little

presumptuous. i am not even a week into the campaign. if god willing, i am the nominee, first and foremost, kind of like i talked about the judicial picks, i'm going to pick someone qualified to be president of the u.s. because if god for bid, the number one responsibility is to stand the president -- stand and be the president to read i'm not going to pick somebody for political reasons. they need to be equipped and qualified to be president. i want somebody who shares my values. who understands my understanding about american values. [applause] frank: i was in cedar rapids and i watched a number of democrats campaign over the past couple of weeks.

some of them choose to make fun of you. for the fact that you did not graduate from a four-year university. you stops toward the end. not that they were criticizing you but they were trying to poke at you. what do you say? governor walker: if they want to waste their time on that, it is simple for me. i left in my senior year to work for the american red cross. i had a job offer not a degree. a lot of my friends had degrees and no job offers. [applause] governor walker: admittedly, i thought, i will go back and take a credit here and there. got into the job, wanted to make a good impression. early on, we did a lot of work during desert storm and desert

shield with military families. did marketing and development. then i met the love of my life in april 1992. proposed to her by august. the next year, we were married. then we had matthew and alex. all your time and money goes to your family. here i sit. i hope people will judge me, look at what i have done. look at the job they have done before. [applause] governor walker: i just want to pull if i that. we have two boys in college. i want them to finish college. i think it is a good thing. if you want a career that requires a college agree, i think that is rate.

i also hope we send a message to those who want a career that a two year -- that requires a two-year degree, that those are just as wonderful. [applause] frank: does barack obama or hillary clinton understand hard-working taxpayers? governor walker: they don't act like it. there is such a contrast out there. i think president obama he's got the title, i'm going to give him that. even know i don't agree with him. hillary clinton they believe you grow the economy by growing washington. i believe you grow it by helping hard-working people across this country. the government doesn't create jobs, people create jobs. the measure of success from

someone like the current president and hillary clinton they measure the success of government i how many people are dependent on it. i measure it by how many people are no longer dependent on the government. [applause] governorfrank: you are in the fortunate position of getting the last word. what do you want to leave them with? governor walker: thank you for sticking around. i know it has been a long day. you have heard a lot of great people. we are blessed to have some outstanding republicans running for president. i am honored to be one of them. [applause] you will not hear me speak ill of any of them. i made one exception today, i say when someone goes personal,

and attacks an american hero, you may agree or disagree with his politics but john mccain is an american hero and i will defend him and any other veteran who has been a prisoner of war. [applause] governor walker: having said that, i will not get into other candidates and issues. i'm going to talk about what i am for, not what i am against. but there is a difference in this race. you will hear more in the coming days. there are two groups. there are fighters and there are winners. fighters who fought the good fight in washington, and god bless them for doing it. but they have a yet to win the fight. then our ♪ there are winners, who have won and re-one elections, but they have not taken on the relevant fights. you are looking for someone who can do both. i am the only one out there.

i have fought and i have one, a lection in a state without a republican since 1984. passing pro-life legislation. concealed carry doctrine. the right to work for me to work. you name a common sense conservative reform and we have fought for it just across the mississippi in a blue state. if we can fight and win and those reforms can work there they can work anywhere in america. if that is what you want someone who will fight and win for you, i and your guy to i ask for your goat -- then i am your guy. i ask for your vote. frank: governor scott walker. governor walker: thanks. [applause] >> hold on one second.

frank once to give a parting goodbye. you need to thank him one more time. [applause] frank: i encourage you, go to our website. we have more forms. iowa has the first votes. it is essential, and i beg you as someone was an academic long before i got involved in politics the importance of civility and a decency and respect. when i travel across the country, too often, people practically come to blows after having a conversation like this. you asked sophisticated and smart questions.

you had the willingness to sit for 8.5 hours. there is something wrong with you. i bake you, as the election goes forward, listen to the candidates. challenge them. but if someone is acting on civil or disrespectful, that is not what this democracy is all about. the more we listen and learn and talk to each other, the stronger the democracy will be. god bless you. thank you very much for coming. >> thank you guys. thank you for coming. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2015] >> wrapping up an all day event as republican presidential candidates gathered in ames, iowa for a forum hosted by an iowa christian conservative group. we heard from senators ted cruz

lindsey graham, governors bobby jindal. and lastly scott walker. among others. we will have a replay of what they had to say during our overnight schedule. according to the new york times donald trump of ended the forum with incendiary comments about john mccain's war record, drawing widespread condemnation. porting the times, they have been engaged in a contentious exchange since the republican senator said mr. trump was riling up crazies in the party with inflammatory comments about illegal immigrants. asked about mr. mccain during the event, mr. trump said, he is not a war he broke. he is a war hero because he was captured. i like people who were not captured.

the republican national chief strategist released the following statement in response. quote, senator mccain is an american hero because he served his country and sacrificed more than most can imagine. there is no place for comments that disparage those who have served honorably. from the rnc chief strategist. the democratic presidential candidates were in cedar rapids, iowa, last night. we will bring you those speeches tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. eastern. we spoke to a reporter earlier about the democratic race. >> i want to point you to a poll, taking a look at support for 2016 and two people would support if the election took place. hillary clinton getting the top honors.

followed by bernie sanders, 17%. vice president biden, who has not declared a run, garnering 13%. jim webb followed with 1% as well as martin o'malley. lincoln chafee got 0%. the des moines register, the lead story takes a look at that event in cedar rapids. the five candidates, talking to democrats. the headline, clinton and sanders rep up audience. sub headline, almost getting support. -- o'malley getting support. to tell us more, a white house correspondent. how are you? >> i am great. >> who were they trying to talk to?

anita: they are giving awards to democratic activist. they gave out seven last night. rankin i'll activist -- rank and file activists. it is making a lot of money because a lot of people are going. i believe they had about 1300 people. host: significant it is taking place in iowa. anita: i talked to a lot of people. they just wanted to hear the candidate. this is the first time they got to see everybody. they like to see them together, how they interact. this is the first time. on the republican side, they have gotten to see them so many times. they have not had the opportunity here yet for the democrats.

host: did they take an opportunity to distance themselves from each other? guest: no. we were waiting to see if that had happened. it has not happened the much. here and is there, you might catch senator sanders say something about hillary clinton. mostly they have not spoken too much about each other. they did not really last night. they were very aggressive, particularly hillary clinton and bill bernie sanders about republicans. hillary clinton singled out three of them by name. several talked about donald trump but they did not talk about each other. host: as far as the mood of the room, who got the most support? guest: you could tell people had supporters in different parts of the room.

hillary clinton hands down got more people across the room. bernie sanders people were more enthusiastic. they were on one side but they were banging their hands on the table. clinking glasses. they were interrupting him to say, i love you. almost like a preacher at church. both of those two people got the most. i would say jim webb and lincoln chafee, tepid. martin o'malley started slow but by the end he was getting a lot of applause. saying a lot of things they wanted to hear. host: as we saw, the des moines register, large amount of crowds -- guest: those people were there before hand. i stopped to talk to them to read i only saw groups for a molly and clinton.

the clinton crowd said they were a mixture of volunteers and staff. some were paid. when i went over and talked to the a molly crowd, which was i think larger, those who were agreed to talk to me were paid by his super pac. i can't tell you all of them were. it is a thing for the candidates to try to show their strength outside. i don't want people to think these were just democratic activists who wanted to be outside. it was an organized effort and in some ways a paid effort. host: what is the take away? what caught your interest? guest: i would just say for me,, i have mostly been seeing hillary clinton. i have seen bernie sanders only a couple of times.

i was not surprised but i had not witnessed how enthusiastic his supporters are you they truly are. they really do like this man. i don't know that it is going to be enough for him, but he is going to give hillary clinton a run for her money. host: anita kumar covers the white house. thank you so much. >> in his weekly address, president obama talks about the nuclear agreement with iran. the republicans have a response. the chair of the financial services committee talks about the dodd frank act. president obama: this week, the u.s. and our international partners achieve something decades of animosity has not. a deal that will prevent iran

from obtaining a nuclear weapon. this will make iran safer and more -- make the u.s. safer and more secure. still, you will hear this honest remarks about it. i want to take those on one by one and explain what this does and the means. first, you will hear some critics argue it makes it easier for iran to obtain a nuclear weapon. if you think it is range that the u.s., great britain and nuclear scientists would agree to something like this, you are right. it closes off the pathway to a nuclear weapon. iran has enough nuclear material to produce 10 weapons. with the deal, they will have to shift 98% of that material out of the country leaving them with a fraction of what it takes to make one weapon. they will have to repurpose two

facilities. this pushes iran further away from a bomb. there is a permanent prohibition on iran ever having a nuclear weapon. you might hear from critics that under this deal, iran could ignore everything required and do what ever they want. they are inevitably going to cheat. that could some of the -- that criticism is wrong. we will have 24/7 monitoring of the facilities. international inspectors will have access. it is intrusive so we can make sure iran keeps its commitments. third, you might hear from critics that iran faces no consequences if it violates the deal. that is also false. if iran violates the deal, the

sanctions that have helped criticize the economy would snap back into place promptly. there is a reason the deal took so long to negotiate. because we refused to accept a bad deal. we held out for a deal that met every one of our better minds -- bottom lines and we got it. doesn't result all the threats -- does it result all the threads iran poses? no. does do more than we have ever done before? yes and that was our priority from the start. that is why it is in everyone's best interest to make sure the deal holds permit without the deal, there will be no limits to iran's nuclear program. the sanctions we rallied the world to impose would unravel. iran could move closer to a nuclear weapon.

other countries in the region might do the same. we would risk another war and the possible toll region in the world. that is what would happen without the deal. on questions of war and peace, we should have tough, honest serious debates. we saw what happens when we don't. that is why the deal is online for the whole world to see. i welcome all scrutiny. fear no questions. as commander in chief, i make no apology for keeping the country safe and secure through diplomacy over the easy rush to war. i will continue to press the case because nobody understands the cost of war better than those who have served in the country's uniform. we have a historic opportunity to pursue a safer, more secure world for the children. it might not come around in our lifetimes. that is why we will try to keep

america safe for generations to come. thank you and have a great weekend. >> hello, i am a congressman for the fifth district of texas. president obama signed into law the dodd frank act. you may not have heard it, but it is obamacare for our economy and your household finances. a dodd frank has left us with fewer choices, higher costs, and less freedom to bid the financial crisis devastated millions of americans. misguided washington policies helped lead us into it. policies that strong-armed financial institutions into lending money people could not afford. it was wrong. it was not deregulation, it was washington dumb regulations. house republicans have offered

an alternative that would have ended taxpayer-funded bailouts. in washington fashion, democrats responded by passing a 2000 page bill that did not solve the crisis. in many ways, made it worse. when president obama signed a dodd frank into law, we were told it would lift the economy and too big to fail and increase unadjusted ability. -- financial stability. it did not happen. it did nothing to reform fannie mae and freddie mac. it imposed 400 new burdensome regulations on the economy. the harm to consumers has been very real. we continue to be mired in lackluster economic growth. middle income paychecks are $12,000 less compared to the

average post war economic recovery. it is harder for credit worthy americans to buy a home. many will not meet the underlying requirements of's dodd frank's mortgage rules. it will hit nearly one third of hispanic and african-american borrowers. the big banks have gotten bigger and the small banks are fewer. there are fewer thanks and credit use in's -- union serving the needs of companies. financial companies tell us they cannot keep up. in fact, because of dodd frank we are losing one community per day. it is no wonder small business debts --?it is also more

expensive for american companies to raise working capital needed to create jobs. services we once tough for granted like free checking are being eliminated because of dodd frank. before, 75% of banks offered free checking. two years later, the number was cut almost in half. bank fees have increased. we heard the cry from the left occupy wall street. but hard way green -- but hard-working taxpayers are not interested in occupying wall street. they just want to quit bailing it out. but dodd frank enshrined too big to fail into law. it makes firms eligible for bill

bailouts. we have and bailouts. it is evident dodd frank has made us less free. it has frustrated dreams for millions. if we want strong economic growth, it is time we commit to making sure this anniversary is dodd frank's last anniversary. house republicans are working to do that. together, we can and bailouts and protect consumer choice. >> c-span gives you the best access to congress. live coverage of the u.s. house. bringing you events that shape public policy. every morning, washington journal is live with elected officials, journalists and your comments by phone. c-span.

created by america's cable companies. brought to you as a public >> next, 10 candidates were in iowa today and the family leadership summit. they were interviewed and took questions from the audience. we will show you all of their remarks in their order of appearance beginning with marco rubio and then donald trump, ben carson, and ted cruz. >> please welcome to iowa to the 2015 family leadership summit, u.s. senator marco rubio. [applause]

marco >> the question you should do is count the number of times he coughs and i cough. i promise -- [coughing] [laughter] i'm supposed to do the jokes here. if we can turn the house lights up. every speaker will begin with a question from the audience. i want the cameras to turn on you. i'm going to ask you two simple questions. how many of you are better off today than your parents were when they were your age? raise your hands? almost everybody. be honest with me. how many of you believe your

children will be better off than you when they are your age? if the reporters can look around you. almost no hands are up. we have lost faith in the future. polling is very pessimistic. the most optimistic people are first generation immigrants. you know something about immigration policy. what did you learn from that experience and what advice would you give them? marco rubio: people want it to work for america. i don't think we can make progress until we get it under control. that is the biggest lesson. people are ready to be reasonable about it and modernize our system. they want to make sure that the problem we have now of the rampant out-of-control illegal immigration is brought under control and never happens again. they don't believe that it is and they don't trust this president to do it.

there's two steps. we have to secure our border. not just the border with mexico. we have to secure our airports and seaports. 40% of the people in this country illegally come legally and overstate a visa. we only log you in, we don't log you out. that's like having a hotel when you only check in and don't check out. we need electronic verification for employers. we have to create a system where employers can reliably be expected and demanded to check and ensure the people they are hiring are not legally here. if you do those two things, you will bring illegal immigration under control. >> do you agree with him? [applause] i don't want -- louder? we heard you the first time. [laughter] the gentleman screaming, i would do anything for your voice right now. [laughter]

i want to invite you, if there is something you agree with, it is ok to applaud. i want to make sure we are respectful of people. my final question, is washington capable of solving it? or is washington so broken that we will talk about immigration year after year? secretary carter: --mr. rubio: that's up to our leaders. the people have to be committed the idea that our job is to solve problems, not just give speeches about them. not just on immigration, on our economy, national security -- america is not the filling its potential as a country. we are a great country. we can be even greater than we are today. that is the good news. bad news, we are not doing it. these are self-inflicted wounds. we are a nation with a government that refuses to solve our problems. or has been unable to for longer than a decade. eventually, that question, if our children are not better off, it's because we did not do it

took to ensure that they are better off. it was frustrating for seven years in the senate as harry reid chose to do nothing. he chose to do nothing. the senate did not do a thing. we face a situation where even if we make progress, the other the president will veto things. he's more committed to doing things by executive order than the proper channels of division of powers that the constitution gives us. [applause] that is why this election is important. >> i would be remiss if i did not ask you, what do you do with the 11 million who are here now. mr. rubio: it is difficult. secure the border. you have to modernize legal immigration. every year, the united states admits one million human beings to united states permanently.

they come here on the basis of whether or not they have a relative living care. it cannot be on the basis of having a relative -- it has to be on the basis of what you bring to the country. are you coming to be an american or live in america? [applause] i think if we do those two things, the vast majority of americans will be very reasonable with someone who has been here for 15 years, will will pay taxes, pay a fine for a work permit -- i don't think you can get to that point until we've done the other two things. i know we cannot get to that point having gone through this the last couple of years. >> if people have a question for marco rubio, there is a microphone over here and over there. now is the chance to go to the microphones if you want to ask a question.

something that is going to happen, the iranian treaty. you are against it. what likelihood you have or preventing it? mr. rubio: it depends on whether we are able to convince 14 democrats to vote against it. there are plenty of reasons. i will give you three. the inspection requirements are a complete sham. it sounds almost like an arbitration panel for a contract between two companies. we have to ask -- no american inspectors are allowed into iran. if we want to inspect the facility in iran, we have to ask for permission from iran. if iran says no, it goes through a complicated 24 day appeal process. if that doesn't work, it has to be moved to the foreign ministers and then ends up at the un security council. it can be well over 50 days. guess what happens after 50 days. they've cleaned up the site you wanted to go see in the first place.

if they refuse to allow you to inspect, the consequences are iran walks away from the deal. it had better be a big violation. here is the most outrageous thing. it says we have to help iran develop technical abilities, economic, trade, manufacturing -- we have to help iran become a more powerful. it requires us to do that. it requires us to help iran fight against sabotage that might exist against a nuclear program. the only people trying to sabotage it are our allies. we are now required to work against countries like israel on behalf of iran. we now have multiple american hostages that are completely untouched. they can build a long-range rockets.

all these requirements go away in 15 years. other than that, i guess it's good. [laughter] >> if it's that bad, why would this president do this? mr. rubio: he wants a legacy. he wants to build exhibits for his presidential library. barack obama opened up america to iran and the next president blew it. barack obama created piece in our time. it's absurd and our allies know it's absurd. [applause] we live in a world where we treat the ayatollah in iran with more respect than the prime minister of the only real american, free enterprise democracy in the middle east the state of israel. [applause] frank luntz: we are going to go to microphone over there. >> i was wondering if you are willing to call the terrorism we

have been facing in our country -- countries, how you keep it from plaguing our youth? rubio: that is what it is. it is not radical terrorism, it is radical islamic terrorists. [applause] [cheering] rubio: and i want to to know why it is there for us to call it that. it is not fair to the non-radical muslims. the first thing, we have to defeat the ideology. we have to defeat it online. we have the capability in this country to go after them. why did they have a twitter account? why do we allow isis to have these online social media networks? we have the ability to take them down. let's do it. we have to target to them militarily in the safe havens. isis does not exist unless they have a place to operate from.

that is why we need to increase airstrikes. that is why we need to increase working with our allies in the region to eliminate and take away from radical jihadists the safe havens and the operating space they need to exist. we have to show the world, and especially these youngsters that are being radicalized, that isis is not an unbeatable, inevitable power. isis is someone we can humiliate. we need to broadcast and advertise to the world that we contribute them. we can win it against radical jihadists, but we are not to doing that now. [applause] frank luntz: microphone two. >> thank you for coming today. regarding global warming climate change, and the epa, how do you feel the obama administration has handled this? is it hurting jobs, etc.?

rubio: they absolutely are hurting us. the epa now was to regulate everything. every waterway in the country. that is number one. number two is, i think it is important for us to protect the natural environment. i know no one who wants water to be poisoned. i know no one who wants to be unbreathable. i also know no one wants to see single mothers having to pay $100 a month more and a utility bill. i know of no one who wants to make the price of food more expensive. and that is what we are going to get different go forward on this radical environmental agenda. i believe it is possible to fully utilize our energy resources in this country and protect our natural environment. the job of policymakers is to do that. that is what my administration will be about. [applause] frank luntz: let's go to microphone number four back there. >> senator rubio, my question to

you is our national debt is over $18 trillion. what steps would you take to reduce it? mr. rubio: the first step would be too expect of people why we have a national debt. it is not foreign aid, less than 1% of our budget. it is not food stamps and welfare. there is abuse and fraud in those programs, and that needs to be under control. it is not military spending. which we are in this rating and leaving our children of our nation vulnerable to attack. the way social security and medicare are currently structured for future generations. i'm from florida. you may not know this, but there are millions of people in florida on medicare and social security. [laughter] one of them is my mother. let me just say, she is eight decades plus four years. [laughter]

but i recognize that an order for us to save medicare and social security, it will not be able to work the same way for me as it did for her. my generation and people younger than me need to accept that if we want to balance our budget, leave medical care and social security the way it is now, and save those programs for the future, our benefits won't grow as fast as our parents' social security grew, and our medicare may not be a plan from the government. it might be money we get every month to buy a plan for ourselves on the private market, somewhat to the way medicare advantage works now. that is not too much to ask of americans my age in order to save medicare and social security the way it is for our parents, balance our budget, to prevent a debt crisis for our nation. [applause] frank luntz: one second, hold on. how old are you? mr. rubio: i am 44, but i feel 45 today.

[laughter] frank luntz: you have been in the senate for one term. you are very articulate. you know the issues pretty well. people have compared you to other individuals, the single biggest knock on you is that those who have talked about to have compared you to other conservative leaders who have suggested that you haven't been around long enough. mr. rubio: here is the truth, i haven't lived as long as some of the other people running. [laughter] but i do think anybody running for president understands what life is like for people than i do. i'm glad people like hillary clinton talk about people living paycheck to paycheck. my parents did. i loved listening to the democrats last night in the thing, what are they do? frank luntz: cedar rapids. mr. rubio: yeah, it wasn't here. and i'm sure none of your went but i watched some of it last night.

oh, you are there. good. i never trust him anyway. [laughter] i learned a new word, comrade. [laughter] i love listening to them talk about people with student loan debt. i have student loan debt. up until four years ago. and the other point i would make is, it is true, there are people running that have a lot more experience than i do on issues we faced 18 years ago. but no one running has more experience on the issues that we face right now, today, with a world that is more dangerous than ever and an economy that is changing faster than ever since the industrial revolution. [applause] frank luntz: microphone one. >> if you were elected president today, what specifically would you do to move our country forward? mr. rubio: there is a number of things we need to do, but i want to focus on three.

frank luntz: this is a summit, rather than a traditional political partisan event. so i just want to -- if -- the next president should -- yes, who are the lawyers and here? raise your hand. get out. [laughter] mr. rubio: but i'm recovering. so the next president needs to do three things. the first thing, we had to become the best place in the world to create the best paying jobs of the 21st century. we have to compete with dozens of other countries. we need a tax code, limited regulations, and a balanced budget that will allow us to be the best country in the world to provide the best paying jobs. number two, we had to revolutionize what higher education means. we cannot afford to graduate people with a mountain of loans for a degree that doesn't lead to jobs. how many greek philosophers do we really need in america?

we shouldn't be requiring people to borrow money to pay for that. we have to have more vocational education and we have to create flexible higher education programs that are available for people that are stuck in low-wage jobs, but have to work full-time and raise a family. the thing is, we have the rain -- we have to remain the most powerful nation on earth. [applause] and that is why we have to rebuild our defenses, rebuild our foreign policy and the trust our allies have it us, and strengthen family life in america. you cannot have a strong country without strong families. and you can't have strong families without empowered marriages and empowered parents. [applause] frank luntz: this program is the family leader. you said strength in families.

do you really think there is a role from washington, dc in strengthening families? mr. rubio: not the primary role. the primary role is on each of us individually as a mother, father, husband, wife, member of the community. but we should not have a good -- government that discourages it. we have safety net programs that discourage people from getting married. we deny people the right to put their kids in a school of choice. and we have an attorney general general and a supreme court that will not stand up for the rights of every american family to instill in their children traditional values without being persecuted or discriminated against a government or by society. [applause] [cheering] frank luntz: microphone two. >> i have a question on the recent controversy in the news about methods used in cia interrogation sites regarding

al qaeda and what not. how do you feel about that in regards to obama terminating that within 48 hours of presidency? mr. rubio: well, interrogations have not been used in that method in a long time and we are not going to go back to those methods. let me say this. there are dangerous people on this planet. every single day, they plot to kill as many americans as possible. they work actively to do it. if we ever get our hands on people like that, and we are able to gather intelligence from them that allows us to prevent another attack, we should do everything within our legal power to try and access that information. treating them as enemy combatants, the way you would as an enemy in the field. [applause] and the one thing we should not do is advertise what are interrogation methods are. do you know why? let me just -- let me explain

why. let me tell you i don't advertise. because then you allow these terrorists to practice. you allow them to prepare on how to resist it. so really, right now, it is not an issue. this president is not arresting any terrorists anymore. frank luntz: that is a pretty strong statement. mr. rubio: which one? [laughter] frank luntz: the president -- mr. rubio: he is not. they want to close guantanamo. frank luntz: are you saying that this administration has gone soft on terrorism? mr. rubio: you know what they do not? this is even more humane now. they just kill them with a drone, as opposed to trying to capture as many people as we can and gather intelligence from them. we have lost intelligence in the process. the truth is, there will hours be a role to play in confronting the enemy and eliminating them but we also need to find the ability to remove people from the battlefield. when you are talking about

closing guantanamo, then what you're saying is we are no longer tied together actionable intelligence. frank luntz: is barack obama soft on terrorism? mr. rubio: barack obama is confused about global terrorism because -- he won't call it that, number one. i am sure he is against it. i know that he is, but he won't call it what it is that he will confront it in a meaningful way. so we are conducting 11 first airstrikes a day. that is not american power. what is that? it is not an effective way -- he told us he you have ago that isis was a jv team. today, isis is located in libya, other nations in north africa, they just blew up in egyptian ship yesterday. they are increasingly active in lebanon. they are probably deeply embedded in refugee camps in syria. they are starting to pop up in

other areas. they are growing. they are spreading. somehow, our tactics remain the same a year later. no real strategy moving toward. frank luntz: i want to give you one opportunity to close. mr. rubio: actually, can i rely on this to close with something i think is important? frank luntz: if you tell them what it is. mr. rubio: it is a bible. i think they know. [applause] [cheering] chapter 12 verse 48, it talks about our obligations. it says, for everyone who has given much, much will be required. and whom they have entrusted much, of all they will ask more. i think that speaks to us in our individual lives. i think that speaks to us in our individual lives. america doesn't only anything. i have a debt to this country i will never repay. it is the nation that literally

changed the history of my family. when my father was nine years old and lost his mother, he had to go work, he had to leave school. and his mission of his life was to give us the chance that he could never do, and that was only possible because of america. it speaks to us as a nation. much has been given to this country. we have been blessed with this vast, fertile land with the most creative and innovative people in all of mankind. and with that, comes the responsibility to lead the world politically, economically, militarily, and morally. there are a lot of people out there who may talk about america, they admire us. they are inspired by us. they believe they can be better because they are inspired by us. that is the country i want to lead. i hope that is what this election will be about. frank luntz: senator marco rubio! [applause] mr. rubio: thank you very much. >> thank you. >> great job.

mr. rubio: thank you. [applause] >> please welcome back franklin's and welcome to iowa and to the family leadership summit businessman donald trump. [applause] donald trump: beautiful. look at that. frank: hello. mr. trump: that is very good. frank: i want to ask you, how

many of you believe the majority of politicians in washington play by their own set of rules and don't tell the truth? raise your hand. does anyone trust anyone in washington? audience: no. frank luntz: second question this is appropriate to you. what is most important in the next president? political experience or business experience? who says political? raise your hand. who says business experience, raise your hands. i think both. so i need to ask you, the most important attribute of a successful workforce is the education and training. it is a major issue out there and i know how focused you are on getting the best employees. common core has been very controversial. the president has had to step

back on it. what should the next president do with common core and with education? mr. trump: a great question. common core has to be ended. it is a disaster. [applause] it is a way of taking care of the people in washington that frankly i don't even think they give a damn about education, half of them. i am sure some of you may be do. frank luntz: do you want to use that word? mr. trump: i will, i will. because people want to hear the truth, frank. exactly what frank said is what is wrong with our country. we are so politically correct that we cannot move anymore. [applause] you know? frank luntz: wait a minute. mr. trump: we have to be able to express ourselves. frank luntz: but don't we go too far?

don't you feel that you went too far in what you call -- coming across the border. mr. trump: oh, no, not at all. let me tell you, not at all. two things. i am so proud of the fact that i got dialogue started on illegal immigration. and people in the media, and all fairness, they were very rough on me in that first week and now many have apologized to me. it has turned out i was right. someone in san francisco was shot by someone illegal who was here five times. they couldn't do anything about it and now everybody is saying that trump was right. i tell you, i took a lot of abuse. i had disloyal people like macy's.

they said we are going to have two drop you. i said, i don't care. i never liked them that much because they were made in china. and never matter that much. obviously, they appreciated. frank luntz: but referring to people as rapists. you called to, a war hero, a dummy. is that appropriate for running for president? mr. trump: you have to let me speak, frank, because you interrupt me all the time. let's take john mccain. i'm in phoenix. we have a meeting that is going to have 500 people. we get a call from the hotel. turmoil. thousands of people are showing up days before. 3, 4, the hotel says, we cannot handle this. we move it to the convention

center. we have 15,000 people. the biggest one ever. bigger than bernie sanders and everyone knows it. a beautiful day with incredible people who were wonderful great americans. i will tell you. john mccain -- donald trump makes my life difficult. i said they were not crazy. they were great americans. i know what crazy is. i know all about crazies. people are not crazy. he insulted me and he insulted everyone in that room and i said someone should run against john mccain, and i supported him. for president. i pledged a million dollars frame. he let us down. he lost. i didn't like him as much after that.

mr. luntz: he was aware hero. -- he is a war hero. mr. trump: i like people who were not captured. mr. luntz: he is aware hero -- he is a war hero because he was captured. mr. trump: i said, john mccain i disagree with him that these people are crazy and i speak the truth. he graduated last in his class at annapolis i said, no one knows that. he was upset. why? for telling the truth. you're not supposed to say that someone graduates last in their quest because yours was this -- you are supposed to be very nice. i want to make america great again. we don't want to listen to his

stuff and be politically correct. we have a lot of work to do. frank, the other day hillary clinton got up and said -- i did not like mr. trump's joan. we have people christians, having their heads chopped off in the middle east. we have people dying over the border. we have, like medieval times, and she said -- i did not like his tone. what does it have to do with tone? we want results. this group wants results. [applause] we have people -- mr. luntz: we have people lined up for questions. you said the word christian. have you ever ask god for forgiveness? mr. trump: that is a tough

question. i am a religious person. shockingly. i am protestant. i am presbyterian. i go to church and i love god and i love my church. norman vincent peel with my pastor. the positive -- the power of positive thinking. he was so great. he would give a sermon and no one ever wanted to leave your. dr. norman vincent peel would give a sermon -- i am telling you, i still remember his sermons. he would bring real-life situations, modern-day situations into the sermon. you could listen to him all day long. and you left the church, you are disappointed that it was over. he was the greatest guy. he passed away. he wrote -- the power of positive thinking. mr. luntz: but, have you ever asked god for forgiveness> mr.

trump:s? mr. trump: i don't think so. if i do something wrong, i try to do it -- i try to make it right. i don't bring god into the picture. when we go to church, and i drink my little wine that is a form of asking for forgiveness. i do that as often as possible because that is a way i feel cleansed. in terms of officially -- i could say absolutely, i don't think in those terms. i think -- let's go on and let's make it right. [applause] mr. luntz: microphone one please. >> we respectfully remember the 1992 elections. would you go on record today and say, if you cannot get the nomination come you will not run

as a third-party candidate? mr. trump: no. i will not go on record and say that. i want this country -- this country has great potential but soon it will not have that potential because it is being drained by incompetent leaders. for example, the iranian deal. just this morning, and yesterday, secretary kerry, who is the worst negotiator. secretary kerry said very strongly -- we did not want to bring up the hostages and complicated deal. how is that complicating the deal that we want our hostages back? it was just announced that iran got one of their leading nuclear scientist that as part of their deal. just announced this morning.

iran, in addition to making an unbelievable deal, which will make them one of the most powerful countries, we are giving them billions of dollars we should not be giving them we did not get our hostages back which is terrible, because they did not want to complicate. we didn't want to complicate the negotiations. when obama was asked that question the other day, the anger in his face at being asked that question and he said -- we did not want to complicate things. iran just got their big scientist back and we decided -- we just found out about it this morning. we are run by a group of incompetent people who are destroying our country. [applause] can i say one other thing?

nobody deals with politicians more than i do. i contributed to everybody. they did whatever i said. everybody. [laughter] i contributed to hillary clinton. i was a businessman. why would my? n't i? i told them to be at my wedding. mr. luntz: which wedding? [laughter] mr. trump: my last wedding. but, as a businessman, you have understandings and other things to do. i am very proud of my record. no politician in my opinion, i know them all, i watch them, a talk about the moon and the sunshine -- people want jobs. no politician is going to get this country back. i am sort of a politician

because i have been dealing with them all of my life. if you cannot win and make a lot of money with politicians, you're not very good. i don't think anyone has dealt with them any better. all of the people, when you s ee bush has $100 million, those people are controlled by those who gave them the money. they are lobbyists and special interests and donors. i will tell you that they are under total control. when bush has to make a decision, can you imagine this guy negotiating against china? we have no chance. who would you rather have negotiating against china? trump or bush? mr. luntz: this is a summit as opposed to a political effort. you can afford the lawyers against the irs, i cannot. mr. trump: i know.

mr. luntz: question for microphone two. >> you talked about your faith earlier, and i wonder how your faith and family has influenced -- have influenced how you raise your children. mr. trump: i have five wonderful children. i get questions similar to that because my children have done well. don and eric -- my three oldest children have done well. they have gone into business and they are solid. they have not been in trouble. more than any other question i get from people is -- how did you raise your kids? one of them was through the church, very important. we have a church where i grew up, a first presbyterian church in jamaica queens and that is where i grew up and that is

where i went to church. i did all of the things that a lot of folks in this room did. it was an important element. church was. the other important element was that from the time they are two years old, no drugs, no alcohol no cigarettes. my daughter, she said -- daddy you are driving me crazy. she did not even know what drugs were. i see so many children get under the influence of drugs and alcohol and their are brilliant successful people. they have no chance. once they are under the influence of the drugs and alcohol, life is too tough. i was very strong with my children. no drugs, no outlaw. and i threw in cigarettes. mr. luntz: you often have dinner with your kids? mr. trump: almost always.

i am always available to my children. i could be in the middle of the biggest, most important deal. for example, if my daughter called me right now, i would say goodbye. i was always available to my children. frankly, i was actually a great father. i was a better father than i was always been. the reason was, i was a worker. they were very good women but i was always working. i was creating jobs, i was building jobs, i was doing legitimate stuff and it was very hard for a woman -- and i blame myself, no one else. it was a work thing. it was very hard for anyone to compete against the work. that was not good. mr. luntz: what advice you have?

-- what advice do you have when you try to prioritize your career and family? what is the best way to get that right? mr. luntz:mr. trump: i know most of the successful people in the world. i sold an apartment to a chinese person for $55 million. i like china. i just don't appreciate that their leaders are so much smarter than our leaders and they were. all of the time. same with mexico. i love the mexican people. thousands of them work for me. i just don't like that the mexican leaders are ripping off our country because they are smarter and more cunning than our leaders and our negotiators. between the trade and the border they are killing us. mr. luntz: your press conferences would take forever. [laughter]

mr. trump: i was trying to get out the point. mr. luntz: career and family -- how do you balance? mr. trump: the happiest people are the people that have good families. i know the richest people in the world, i know the toughest people in the world, i know the most brutal people. great negotiators, great business people. not nice people. at the happiest people. they are very rich, very smart and i would use them to negotiate against japan. i will tell you, they are not the happiest people. the happiest people i see have great families. [applause] and just to take that a step further, and i tell this to people all of the time, they

asked me how to get rich? i tell them all of the time, because i have seen it, those people that have the great family, those are the people that i have seen that are the happiest. the successful people always want more. they could have 2 billion and they want 6 billion. they always want more. in the end, they are not happy. i don't know. religion is a very big factor also. i have seen people who have a great family and god and church, and they love their church. i have friends who love to go to church and help their people -- and help their children. mr. luntz: this audience will be disappointed if i don't ask this question. what is your relationship with

god? mr. trump: i pray. i go to church. i do things that are wrong, i guess so. i am a business person. i really do well at business. i have done great. i have made great deals. i on some of the greatest properties in the world. i think god helped me. god helped me by giving me a certain brain. i went to a phenomenal school -- the wharton school. i did well there. i was born with a certain intellect that is good for this. essentially, when you boil it down, we need a president that is going to be able to make deals, great deals, because we are getting killed. we are -- our gdp went down in

the first quarter. it became negative. when china goes up 7%. in china, they are going crazy. we have a negative number. it is unheard of. gdp goes down fairly substantially and i think it will continue to go down which means we are getting smaller but we have more people. many of home have -- many of whom have come across the border. we need someone that can take our jobs back from china and mexico because we are going to help. our country is going to hell. we need someone that is going to be able to bring our jobs back. [applause] mr. luntz: so, i know part of this responsibility is to be able to understand who these

people are. not just about policy. i want to give you a chance to close with the issues that you want to do. leaders are required to set priorities. is our economic health or our moral health more important for the next president to prioritize? mr. trump: you can do both, frank. it does not have to be one without the other. [applause] if i am elected president they cannot create jobs like me. they cannot negotiate with china like i can. and every other single country in the world. if i can make the country strong financially, it is a lot easier for the country morally. if you look at what is going on. we are in serious trouble. our military -- we send weapons

to our allies, and shots are fired, and we lose 2300 humvees. we do not know what we are doing. if i can make our country really strong, i would focus on the military. i would focus on the veterans. they are treated like fourth class citizens. that is part of the morality. these people went out and fought breast and they are great people. they are treated so badly. i have been with veterans who say they go to a doctor's office in one of the places and they wait five days in a reception area before they get to see a doctor. that is bad morally. your question is very good but i think we have to go hand-in-hand. our country is a better nation -- a debtor nation, we have to

make our country rich again. we have to make a great again. we cannot let other parts of the world steel our country, our jobs our manufacturing. with that being said, the morality of this country with the right president, president obama, i thought he would be a good president. one thing he would do is be a great cheerleader for the country. he has been horrible. mr. luntz: does he love america? mr. trump: i hope so. mr. luntz: is he a moral president? mr. trump: i don't know. ask his wife. [laughter] [applause] i was hoping, and i thought, the one thing i thought about him, i saw him speaking in germany -- i thought he would be of the cheerleader for the country. he has been horrible. he has been divisive. he has not even called kate's

family who was killed. he has not tell -- he has not called the family of kate steinle. an illegal immigrant killed her. he should not have been here. i think morality and i think success go hand in hand. you do not have to have one without the other. mr. luntz: ladies and gentlemen donald trump. mr. trump: thank you. and you everyone. -- thank you everyone. i get a standing ovation. other people do not. [applause]

mr. luntz: please welcome back frank luntz and welcome to iowa and the 2015 family leadership summit, neurosurgeon dr. ben carson. [applause] mr. luntz: before we begin there are going to be people walking up the rows and handing out the sheet. today, if you have wanted to participate in the focus groups that you have seen on cbs or fox news, this is your chance to do it. i urge you, as the sheets get past out, send them down the rows and make sure when you head out to lunch, send them all the way back over here.

this is your chance to be heard by america, not just today but for the next eight months. ladies and gentlemen, dr. ben carson. [applause] we always begin with an audience for you is this -- and you will have three choices. this time, i want you to do it by applause because of your applause will determine what his first question is. we face many threats today across the globe, but which is the number one threat? is it iran? is it russia? or is it isis? iran, russia, or isis? who believes it is iran? please applaud. [medium applause] who believes it is russia? --[medium-loud applause] and who believes it is isis? [loud applause]

shall i preface this -- ok? who believes it is china? [medium-loud applause] returning to isis -- [laughter] they know of your expertise on health-care and that is where it -- they would expect me to go but leadership requires you to know a lot more issues than the one of your greatest expertise. it is 3:00 a.m. and that phone call comes and it is about the challenge to america's safety and security and the threat is isis. what does the next president need to do now? so that phone call never comes. dr. carson: that's a great question because what is going

on in the world right now is quite different than before. in 2003, for instance, when we invaded iraq and al qaeda was a big deal, there were many people who were not totally on board with that because they did not see where that was a significant threat to our national security. i could be one of those people because i was not very enthusiastic about that, however, we are facing now a completely different situation. we have radical islamic jihadists who want to destroy us and they want to destroy our way of life. their existence is a threat to us, and we cannot be in that mindset that says, well, we made a mistake and we spent a bunch of money and we caused a lot of strife so, therefore, let's just get into our little cocoon and that is the problem for somebody else. that is not going to work. the fact of the matter is, they want to destroy us and we have

two choices. we can sit here, ignore them bomb the desert and think we are doing something, or we can destroy the first? and i choose the latter. what i would do -- [applause] dr. carson: what i would do is use every resource available to us. i think that are offensive and defensive capabilities militarily are good. they have been degraded because they have been neglected but they are still extremely good. mr. luntz: would you send ground troops? dr. carson: i would send ground troops if i needed ground troops in order to take the land. mr. luntz: you have an idea what the threat is, you defined it. is it a likelihood that ground troops would be necessary to succeed? dr. carson: i think it is a strong likelihood. the reason being, in order for them to develop, they need land. if we really want to break their backs, we take the land.

you are not going to take the land without troops. we made this mistake in vietnam. we would go in, clear out the viet cong, declare victory, we would leave, and they would come right back. that does not do any good. the reason that isis arose is because we vacated iraq after we had secured the victory there. mr. luntz: do people who are signing up today for the military the next president should tell them that they may be sent to the middle east to be on the ground? american troops on the ground to fight isis? dr. carson: i think they should know that, they should also know that we will use every other mechanism available to us, including economic sanctions. that we are going to take land including their oil wells, including anything they use -- [applause] to finance themselves and when

that person is enlisting, we also ought to tell them that we are going to have resources in place to take care of them because 23 veterans commit suicide every day in america and that is the tip of the iceberg. we are giving them some aid, but that should start when they enlist when they have a support system as they go through and when you're before they are discharged -- and one year before they are discharged and we should that people ready to transition them into society. [applause] mr. luntz: i had not thought of asking this question and i do not know how to do it in a way and you have been asked the before and i want to do it in a way that is not only respectful but appreciative. it is very easy for many of the people in this room to call themselves conservative, but if you look around this room, there are not many people of color.

if you look around the room of conservatives in the northeast california, there are not many people of color. why are you here? and i mean that in the deepest spiritual way. why did you choose to be in this room and not in cedar rapids last night? dr. carson: i can tell you, i grew up in detroit, a strong democratic home. i went to yale university, very liberal. i came back to baltimore maryland, not the bluest state -- one of the bluest states possible but early on during my career, i started noticing that

there were a lot of people particularly a lot of people of color, who were coming in with social services. their lives were going nowhere and there are perfectly capable individuals. i recognized what the system was doing to them and then i started listening to ronald reagan as i had always been told that republicans were horrible, mean, racist people and that you should never have anything to do with them. i started listening to him and i said, he don't sound like that. he actually sounds like somebody with common sense. [laughter] that really started the transition. [applause] and there are a lot of people who have been fed the propaganda just the way i was fed the propaganda, so i do not blame them for being there because they have not had the experience that i have had. i think there are a lot of people waking up.

i met with a group of black pastors yesterday. people are waking up in droves and recognizing -- [applause] [cheering] i think they are starting to recognize what has been happening here because you start out in the 1960's, lyndon johnson with the war on poverty and a great new society, and how we are going to eradicate poverty -- have we done it? we have spent $19 trillion since then, but we have 10 times more people on food stamps. everything that was supposed to be better is not only worse, but much worse. i do not want to demonize the people who started those programs, but we do have brains and brains tell you that when something is not working, you

look at a different way to get it done. [applause] mr. luntz: have you got a question for ben carson? because i will go to the line. one last question, you called the black pastors. not african-american pastors. why did you use the word black rather than african-american? dr. carson: i do not have any problem with anybody using african-american, but when you go to the museum on ellis island and you look at all those pictures on the wall of people who came here from every place in the world, many of them with only the things they could carry, people who work not eight hours a day but 10-12 hours a day, people who work not five days a week but 6-7 days a week, not for themselves but for their

sons and daughters, grandsons and granddaughters that they may have so they can have freedom and prosperity in this land. hundreds of years before that, immigrants came here in the bottom of the slave ships and worked even harder but they had a dream, too, that there great-grandson's a great granddaughters would pursue freedom in this land of all the places in the world, this one, the united states of america was the only one big enough and great enough to allow all those people from all those backgrounds to realize their dreams. that means that every single one of us is relevant to every single one of us. there is something known as america and the american dream and the american psyche, and it is known all over the world, and it has nothing to do with where your ancestors came from. it has everything to do with who we are today. [applause] mr. luntz: will we go to the back microphone, please? >> new york representative

michael graham was sent to prison for tax evasion but al sharpton is still walking free. dr. carson: thank god he is not a representative. >> exactly. what would the president do to address the issue of corruption and fraud that is going on in washington, d.c.? dr. carson: ok, well, it is a very corrupt place. we need to lift the hood of the engine that runs washington and the immediate response is to shut it down. [laughter] [applause] it is pretty horrible, but there is a lot of interrelationships and historical things that are going on in there. it is amazing to me the relationships that exist between different people and some people

said to me, you could not possibly function in that environment because you do not know all the intricacies of washington, d.c. i tell you what i do know, i do know the constitution of the united states and i know how things are supposed to run. [applause] what i would do, i would get some people who do understand all of that garbage -- [laughter] so that they can help disassemble it. i have spent decades in the private sector and corporate america, sitting on boards national, international corporations and finding out and figuring out and learning how things that work efficiently work. the united states government is not one of those things, however, we can change that and we can make it run like a business. i think that is very important because the american people deserve to have their money

spent the right way. [applause] mr. luntz: the gentleman sitting right in the front three rows. everyone says, spend the money the right way, what would be the programs you would cut? i want to rephrase that. what would a person cut who was in such a situation? [laughter] i am not going to get myself sued when this is done. dr. carson: i am a surgeon, so i know how to cut. [laughter] [applause]

one of the things that has always created conflict in washington is pet programs and pet projects. you are always going to get into an issue if you say, i am cutting this but not this. therefore, i would propose an across-the-board cut in everything. you do it incrementally. i defy anyone to tell me that there isn't 1%, 3%, 5% of fat in every single program. [applause] mr. luntz: let's go to microphone, two please.

>> do think we should be able to defend ourselves? dr. carson: of course. are they kidding me? [applause] it brings up a larger issue, the military. you know, what is going on? our navy has the smallest number of vessels that we have had since 1917. recent congressional testimony the marine corps said half of the nondeployed units are not ready. the air force, look at the size of how that shrunk. how we only have one carrier group in the persian gulf. we had to move it from where it was supporting the iraqi efforts over to yemen not long ago because we do not have the kind of support that we used to have and soon, that is being removed for several months. what kind of message is that sending to iran right now? all of this is absolute craziness. our military is shrinking while our enemies are growing and metastasizing.

it seems like we are trying to destroy ourselves. what is going on? we've got to do better than that. [applause] mr. luntz: i've got to ask a follow-up question because you said it seems like we're trying to destroy ourselves. then why is this happening in washington? who is responsible? dr. carson: i believe what has happened in washington is symptomatic of what has happened in our country. and that is we have become republicans and democrats instead of americans, therefore -- [applause] therefore, when stupid things are proposed -- [laughter] you know, we get behind the stupid person based on what our party is rather than looking at what is happening to our nation.

[applause] mr. luntz: i'm not asking you whether you think he is stupid -- [laughter] but is what president obama is doing with iran and with our military -- is what he is doing stupid? dr. carson: well, let's not even talk about him, but let's talk about -- [laughter] let's talk about general principles. when you go into some type of negotiation like that, there are certain things that have to be done. you have to be able to verify, verification is very important. and you look at this agreement where is it? accountability -- how can you be able to have accountability if you cannot verify and you must

be able to enforce. if the first two do not happen you cannot do the last one. which means that basically, in terms of international negotiation, it is a wasteland. it is not going to work. you have to understand the basic principles of negotiation in order to come up with something that actually works. we have not disassembled their nuclear infrastructure. we are lifting economic sanctions which will pump tens of billions of dollars into the world's number one exporter of terrorism. yes, we can demand inspections 24-7 but all that does is start the process with this foir tier

panel that includes iranians and russians and by the time they say, ok, you can go inspect, they will have moved anything that needs to be moved. i mean, i think a third grader could come up with a better negotiation. [laughter] [applause] mr. luntz: going again to the back. microphone four. >> i was told i cannot ask it you had read any of steve's books, but aside from that, i would ask, with someone running for arguably the most important job in the entire world, what deep down motivate somebody to take on that challenge? dr. carson: well, i could only answer that question for myself. obviously, i cannot answer that for anybody else. is that permissible in this setting? mr. luntz: but you are still speaking of what a president

should have or should be thinking about. dr. carson: right. first of all, it was not something that would be on my bucket list. i had a long arduous career and there were 15,000 cases, and i was really looking forward to retirement. i would like to say. [applause] but that whole career surrounded children and saving their lives and improving the quality of their lives. when you look out there right now and you see a nation that is being divided on every level, a war on women, racial wars, income wars, age wars, religious wars, a house divided against itself cannot stand. jesus christ himself said that. [applause] we are leaving that to the next generation. that motivates me. it motivates me to see what we are doing to their financial future.

we all hear about the $18.4 trillion national debt and that is a problem. if you try to pay that back at the rate of $10 million a day, it would take to over 5000 years. we are putting that under facts, but it is worse than that, it is a fiscal gap. the amount of unfunded liability, social security medicare, medicaid, departmental programs, all what we owe going forward projecting versus what we can expect to come in in terms of revenues from taxes and other sources. those two things should be close together and they are not. the gap right now is $211 trillion dollars. i mentioned that in my announcement speech and the next day a bunch of liberal media came out and said, see, we told

you it was crazy -- he does not know anything about economics and a very next day, forks cannot out and said, 17 nobel laureates in economics and 1200 professors of economics agree with carson. [applause] well, that settled them down a little bit, but the fact of the matter is, this can destroy us and the only reason we can do it is because we are the reserve currency of the world. we have the ability to print money. we are doing it inappropriately, our money is not tied to anything, and it does not have to be the gold standard, but we need to put personal responsibility back into our government as well as in our own lives. [applause] mr. luntz: what final thought would you like to leave them with? dr. carson: the final thought i would like to leave people with is that we, the american people, are not each other's enemies. the real enemies are those people who are trying to make us into enemies. if somebody does not agree with

you, they are your mortal enemy. you can call them names, you can try to destroy their livelihood, you can try to destroy their life, where did that kind of thinking come from? as far as i'm concerned, that is pure unadulterated evil and we should not tolerate that in our society. [applause] mr. luntz: ladies and gentlemen, dr. ben carson! [applause] >> military times reporter leo shane looks at the security at military bases. two former officials at the international atomic agency discussed the inspections opponent of the iran nuclear

agreement. as always, we will take your calls and you can join the conversation on race book and on twitter. washington journal, live at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> when francis full to married president glover cleveland, she became a first lady with many first. she is the first and only one to be married in the white house and at age 21, the youngest one to serve as first lady. when she died on october 29 1947 she lived an additional 51 years after leaving the white house. longer than any other first lady. this sunday night. on c-span's original series, first ladies: images and influence. sundays at 8:00 p.m. eastern on american history tv on c-span3. >> we are showing due the 2016

republican presidential candidate who appeared at the family leadership summit in ames, iowa. a you will hear from texas senator ted cruz former arkansas governor mike huckabee, and former texas governor rick perry. >> ladies and gentlemen, the senator from the great state of texas, ted cruz. [applause] mr. cruz: i am a lot better when i'm not on stage. mr. luntz: i need to ask you a question. i applaud, how many of you

supported the governor's -- the government shutdown, two years ago. [applause] and by applause, how many of you thought it was successful? [applause] they supported it. they are not convinced it was successful. what did you learn from it? and what should a president do if they are having trouble cooperating with congress? mr. cruz: the answer to that first question, in washington d.c. would be markedly different. i have to say that there are a lot of people here in iowa and across the country who are fed up with politicians who promised something on the campaign trail, and do not actually do it they said they were going to do.

just about every republican in congress campaigned saying they would do everything humanly possible to stop obamacare. when i promised 27 million texans that, i meant it, and i am proud to stand and keep fighting and honoring that promise. in terms of success -- mr. luntz: this is part of my responsibility. obamacare is the law of the land. it has worked its way up to the courts and it has been -- the supreme court has decided. there is not much that you can point to in the senate that has been successful. i want to show you this. honestly, would you rather have a governor or a senator as your next president? candidates alone. who would rather have a senator? [applause]

who would rather have a governor? [applause] mr. cruz: frank, let me jump in and ask a question. how many of you would like to have a conservative as your next president? [applause] mr. luntz: how does the next president actually get something done? mr. cruz: let's talk about two different things. one, in the midst of that fight to defend obamacare, everyone went on television and said this is his disaster. you are doing the republican party as a result of the fighting to stop this law. harry reid will be reelected.

republicans will be killed in the 2014 elections. a funny thing happened on the way to the election booth. i guarantee you come if that had happened and we had been clobbered in the 2014 election, every republican graybeard would have gone on television and said it was ted cruz's fault that we got killed. instead, it only did we not get killed, we won a historic victory. a biggest majority in the house since the 1920's. we picked up nine seats in the senate including retiring harry reid as majority leader. the number one issue in the country, if you look at the ads and messages that republicans used, the number one issue was obamacare. mobilizing and energizing millions of conservatives against the train wreck that is obamacare was a major victory to

winning the senate in 2014. [applause] let me make one final point. most wars are not one in a single skirmish. as a result of validating that debate, millions of americans focused on how obamacare was costing millions of jobs, forcing millions into part-time work, costing millions their health care, obamacare -- obama's approval ratings plummeted. as a result of that fight, 2016 will be a referendum on repealing obamacare and if i am elected president a republican president will sign legislation repealing every word of that failed law. mr. luntz: you cannot actually

say -- if i'm elected -- the next president will hopefully -- mr. cruz: i certainly hope so. mr. luntz: i want to raise with you one other issue. i want to remind people to get in the line for questions. there has been an uproar over plant over the last 48 hours. -- over planned parenthood over the last 48 hours. what do we do? what is the right philosophy and strategy for dealing with planned hertha? -- parenthood? mr. cruz: there has been a video that has surfaced with a planned parenthood leader discussing the

selling of body parts of unborn children. it was gruesome and disgusting. every american should watch that video. and simply say -- are those my values? what should we do? number one the senior official is admitting to multiple federal felonies and to multiple felonies at the state and local levels. the u.s. department of justice if it was not simply a partisan arm of the dnc, should open an investigation and prosecute land parenthood -- planned parenthood. [applause] local prosecutors, attorney generals and da's should investigate the organizations in their jurisdiction and congress should hold hearings and we should cut off every penny of taxpayer funds. [applause]

mr. luntz: i do not know if that is broadcast at home but that is the first spontaneous ovation. you should know how significant your comments were to them. let's go to microphone number one. >> i feel the gay marriage decision of the supreme court has drawn a bull's-eye on every single christian ministry in the country that opposes gay marriage.

i am rather surprised that there has not been much talk about how to protect those ministries from government intrusion. and annihilation. what do you think we can do about that? mr. cruz: you are right. the supreme court decision -- the supreme court's decision was lawless and it was on a mentally illegitimate. it was sad -- it was fundamentally illegitimate. it was sad to see more than a few candidates and republicans saying it is the law of the land, it is settled, surrendered, and move on. there is something profoundly wrong when republicans running for president are reading from barack obama's talking points. [applause] i have been proud to defend traditional marriage as the

union of one man and one woman my entire life. [applause] you are exactly right. the next in the crosshairs is religious liberty. i have spent three decades fighting to defend religious liberty whether it was defending the 10 commandments, the edge of allegiance, the veterans memorial, it is the first liberty and the first amendment of the bill of rights and i will never ever shy away when defending the religious liberty of every american. on august 21 here in iowa, we are hosting religious liberty rally including a wonderful couple who was persecuted for following their christian believes that marriage is the union of one man and one woman. i will tell you what my prayer is. in the faith -- in the face of

this disgraceful, lawless decision from the courts, that it will spark an awakening. it will awaken the body of christ and lift us up to rise up for the 54 million evangelicals who are staying home to say -- we will take this country back for our values. [applause] mr. luntz: you are a powerful speaker. powerful ideas. mr. cruz: with respect, the truth has powered. -- the truth has power. mr. luntz: there is something

powerful in redemption. in a balloting that we made a mistake and seek forgiveness. be candid. when have you with these deep convictions, when have you gotten it wrong? mr. cruz: there are the stakes one makes over and over again. i came out with a new book where i describe many mistakes that i made and i try to be very candid about them. mr. luntz: will you share one with them and what it taught to both emotionally and spiritually. mr. cruz: one story i describe in the book is when i was in law school. my parents got divorced. that was very hard. i was raised in a christian home. i was raised being taught that merrick -- that marriage was a sacrament and my parents got divorced all it was in law school. i argued with my parents.

i sent them scripture after scripture on the sanctity of marriage. i argued that this was wrong. i was very judgmental. i did not agree with their decision to get divorced. it hurt me personally. i will tell you i asked god for forgiveness. that all of us on our faith journeys, we encounter obstacles. one of the things everyone of us learns as a child becoming an adult is that our parents are people. people are entitled to make mistake, stumble, sin. that is part of who we are. it is not my role to sit and judge them. that is