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eek recognition? >> i move that the house now adjourn. the speaker pro tempore: the question is on the motion to adjourn. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the ayes have it. the motion is adopted. accordingly, the house stands adjourned until 10:00 a.m. a bill tomorrow will require the tsa to expand its preaching program.
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here is what is happening on c-span tonight. the state department a report evaluating 188 nations on their efforts to combat human trafficking. then activists talk about the handling of arizona's immigration laws. in a forum on strengthening investment in scientific research and a way to create job. announcer: seized and gives you the best access to congress, live coverage of the house, news conferences, bringing you events that she public policy, and "washington journal" is live with your comments by phone, facebook, and twitter. c-span created america's cable companies and brought to you by your local satellite provider.
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announcer: the state department removed cuba and malaysia as an updatinge. an estimated 20 million people world wide are working under forced and illegal conditions. here is secretary kerry speaking about the report. [applause] secretary kerry: thank you. thank you very much. sarah, thank you very much. thank you all for being here this morning and witnessing my first three yards on one crutch in public. if my doctor sees that, i am in
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serious trouble. i not supposed to do that until next week, but i could not resist. i really can think of no better way to start this week than with such a gathering of really remarkable people, all of whom are determined to make a difference in a cause that really counts. and i'm very honored to be here, particularly happy to see from capitol hill my friend and former colleague senator amy klobuchar and representative chris smith, who has been such a longtime champion in these issues. both of them are two champions in this fight. i'm delighted to see the first lady's chief of staff, thank you for being with us. also, i want to recognize jeff zucker, the head of cnn. cnn has made a special cause of this. i see their accountability reports as i travel around the world.
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and, jeff, i'm very appreciative to cnn for their commitment to this cause. there are members of the diplomatic corps here, and that is absolutely vital to us because international cooperation is the key to our being able to have an impact and make progress, and we are. there are leaders from civil society here. they are -- all of them bolstering the networks that are built around the world to fight back, increasingly creating sophisticated strategies. and that is the only way we will succeed in this battle. it is a battle against money. it is a battle against evil. it is quite remarkable that in the year 2015 we face a modern version of slavery. something we actually fought a civil war over here in this country.
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it is vital for us to be able to push back against this. i'm particular grateful to the entire trafficking in persons team who stood up a few moments ago. i'm grateful to carry johnstone who has been the acting director. and sarah sewall. it is really a task that is brought together by every division, every office, every mission of the entire state department. this report is the product of really an entire year-long effort. these folks will leave here today and will begin next year's report. and it is a constant process of following up with the employees of our diplomatic posts around the world, gathering facts information, and helping to lay it out.
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and this report is important because it really is one of the best means that we have, as individuals, to speak up for adults and children who lack any effective platform whatsoever through which they are able to speak for themselves. because of its credibility, this report is also a source of validation and inspiration to activists on every single continent who are striving to end the scourge of modern slavery. i want to emphasize, as i did last month when we issued a report on our human rights observations around the world, the purpose of this document is not to scold, not to name and shame. it is to enlighten and to energize, and most importantly to empower people.
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and by issuing it, we want to bring to the public's attention the full nature and scope of a $150 billion illicit trafficking industry. it is an industry. pick up today's "new york times," front page, a story about a young cambodian boy promised a job in thailand, goes across the border, finds himself held by armed men, and ultimately is pressed into service on the seas, three years at sea, shackled by his neck to the boat so that he cannot escape and take off when they are around other boats. if that is not slavery and imprisonment, i do not know what is. we want to provide evidence and facts that will help people who are already striving to achieve reforms to alleviate suffering
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and to hold people accountable. we want to provide a strong incentive for governments, at every level, to do all they can to prosecute trafficking, and to shield at-risk populations. in conveying these messages, let me acknowledge that even here in the united states, we americans need to listen and improve. like every nation, we have a responsibility to do better, a better job of protecting those who live within our own borders, whose passports are taken away from them, who are in prison for labor purposes or for sex trafficking. this morning, we are honored to welcome, as has become a tradition, eight truly remarkable human beings, eight people who have this thing was themselves in the quest to stop trafficking. i might add that where they live, many of these people do so at great personal risk.
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they have traveled from the baltics, south america, africa and europe to be with us today. they are courageous individuals to enhance, to extend legal protections for the affordable educate the public, and end the loathsome practice of child sex tourism. my friends, thank you for being here and thank you for helping to reinforce what these heroes are doing. and if there is a single theme that connects the diverse work of these heroes, it is the conviction that there is nothing inevitable about trafficking in human beings. it is a choice. that conviction is where the
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process of change really begins. with the realization that just because a certain abuse has taken place in the past does not mean that we have to tolerate that abuse in the future, or that we can afford to avert our eyes and pretend we just do not know what is going on. instead, we need to each be asking ourselves, what if that victim of trafficking was somebody we knew? what if it was a neighbor? or still worse, as a nightmare what if it was a son, daughter relative? the more we ask these questions, the more each of us will understand that not only is this a fight that we have to attempt, not only do we have a responsibility to bring every aspect of our institutions, our government, together in order to push back and educate and make people aware of this, but it is a fight we absolutely have to
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win. it is a modern-day human rights challenge of enormous proportions. and we always need to draw strength from the fact that momentum in human rights work is a very powerful force. when criminals in one city are arrested for using children in the commercial sex trade believe me, the pressure on authorities to make arrests builds. when country aid becomes known for its success in putting human traffickers in jail, the leaders in country b are drawn into a virtuous competition. authorities will have a good reason to look at other industries, and consumers will have cause to question the origins of the global supply chains of what they have chosen to buy, what is placed before
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them in stores or online. i do not have the tell us audience that traffickers are both ruthless and relentless. they know how to exploit the hopes of those desperate to escape poverty, or to find shelter from disaster, or strife. traffickers prey upon the most vulnerable. they make false promises and transport their victims across borders to labor where the language is unknown and where there are no means of escape. if the victims rebel, the traffickers use violence. that is why this tip report
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needs to be read as a call to action. governments need to strengthen and enforce the laws they have on the books, and prosecutors must take pride in turning today's traffickers into tomorrow's prisoners. the private sector also needs to be a part of this effort by blowing the whistle on companies that use labor that is under age, underpaid, and under coercion. investigative journalists can continue to assist by shining the spotlight, as reuters, "new york times," a.p., "the guardian," cnn, and others have. advocacy groups, faith leaders and others should continue to intensify the pressure for bold action so that together we will win more battles in the fight
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that will surely last for some time to come. throughout, we have to be true to the principle that although money may be used for many things, we must never allow a price tag to be attached to the heart, soul, and freedom of a fellow human being. a few years ago, i guess actually if the truth be told, 40 years ago, when i was a prosecutor in boston, i launched one of our country's very first violence against women divisions in the district attorney's office. we were determined at that time that people should not be victimized twice, once by the crime, and then again by the system. we even prosecuted a man for raping a woman who was a prostitute, a case that no one thought we could win, but we did because no means no. against will means against will, and in those situations, force is never acceptable.
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today, as secretary of state, i look around and i'm deeply inspired by the efforts being made in america and the countries on every continent to push back against the bullies. i'm inspired by the leadership we have seen from our commander in chief, from congress, from civil society, from the religious community, and from our many overseas partners. i welcome president obama's nomination of assistant u.s. attorney susan kosich to serve as the next director of the tip office, and i'm inspired each day by the efforts of our own diplomats and staff, and especially the dedicated carry johnstone and her team over here, who i now ask now to come up.
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announcer: robert menendez slants the politicization of a human trafficking report. he came to the floor for about 15 minutes. objection. mr. menendez: mr. president i rise because i am deeply and profoundly disappointed in this year's trafficking and persons report that was released today. by upgrading malaysia and cuba, which were at tier 3 the worst tier that any country could be considered at, the administration has turned its back on the victims of trafficking and turned a blind eye to the facts and politicized the report. and they've completely ignored the calls from congress, from leading human rights advocates from the realities on the ground in cuba and from malaysian government officials themselves to preserve the integrity of
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this exceedingly important report. they have succeeded in elevating political considerations and political goals above the most fundamental principles of basic human rights. i heard secretary kerry and his presentation of the report say something to the extent that we should not put a price on our fellow human beings' freedom. well, it seems that we have in this case. in arbitrarily upgrading malaysia and cuba, they are clearly criticizing the report giving an stamp of approval to countries who failed to take the basic actions that would merit this upgrade. this flies in the face of what flay -- may saleh thans -- mall
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lay shans want. today, mr. president, we have failed them. in cuba, adults and children are subjected to sex trafficking and the government continues perpetrating abusive practices of forced labor. the administration's decision to upgrade cuba defies common sense. in the state department's own words, cuba is a source country where adults and children -- children -- are subjected to sex trafficking and forced labor. and in the case of forced labor the castro regime itself is the single greatest perpetrator of forced labor in cuba. every year the cuban government coerces tens of thousands of its own doctors and medical professionals to serve under conditions that violate international norm. the castro regime restricts the movement of its doctors while they are overseas, takes their
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passports from them and often prevents family visits. in addition, the cuban government garnishes their doctors wages using what should be a humanitarian mission as a means to fill its own coffers. this gross violation of international standards is so bad that the united states has a specific parole program for cuban doctors that have been subjected to forced labor conditions by the castro regime. we have our own special parole program for cuban doctors that have been subjected to forced labor conditions by the castro regime. and thousands of cuban doctors have come to the united states as a result. so at a time when these doctors are being received in the united states on humanitarian parole, we're going to turn a blind eye to the fact that the castro regime is the sole responsible actor. this raises one question: is this yet another emerging detail
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of something that the administration and the cuban government have been discussing in recent months? another demand of the castro regime that the united states had to agree in the name of normalizing relations? we're willing to look the other way on human rights in order to normalize relations? and as the state department's own report recognizes, there's been no progress -- no progress -- on forced labor in cuba. and given that reality any upgrade of the country's ranking challenges common sense. so i intend to use all the tools at my disposal, from hearings to a call for investigations to legislation to challenge these upgrades. the united states commitment and credibility in fighting the scourge of modern-day slavery is on the line. we spent an enormous amount of time in this senate on the legislation senator cornyn had along with others, on modern-day
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slavery. spent a lot of time in the senate foreign relations committee, where i'm privileged to serve under chairman corker who had his own legislation about how we deal with human trafficking in the world modern-day slavery as he calls it. so we need to make clear that the trafficking in persons report must not be subject to political manipulation. i'm utterly dismayed at the administration's decision to upgrade malaysia and cuba under these circumstances. it represents a bastardization of the trafficking in persons ranking process and takes away the power to incentivize real progress. the administration's upgrade of malaysia as well as cuba compromises american values in the interest of promoting a trade agenda with a country that has consistently failed to uphold human rights. now one can only characterize this action as a cynical
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maneuver to get around the clear intent of congress with no regard for the effect on a key measurement tool of a country's human trafficking record. this not only represents the latest release of the trafficking in persons report in the history of its publication nearly a full two months overdue, but calls into question this administration's commitment to uphold human rights. we all know that the malaysian government has not undertaken a serious effort that would warrant an upgrade. as i've noted before on april 17 of this year -- this year -- the united states ambassador to malaysia our ambassador to malaysia said that the malaysian government needs to show greater will, political will in prosecuting human
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traffickers to improve on its current lowest ranking in the trafficking in persons report. this is the person on the ground in malaysia representing the united states government who has an eyes on what's happening. and he said on april 17 that in fact the malaysian government needs to show greater political will in prosecuting human traffickers and protecting their victims if the country wanted to rise from tier 3 to a better tier 2 standing. on june 1 the assistant secretary of state for population migration and refugees ann richard reaffirmed that -- quote -- "this year's report covers up to march 15, which means malaysia's handling of the refugee crisis will only be reflected in the 2016 report, next year. according to the assistant secretary, actions taken after march of this year, good or
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bad -- good or bad -- should certainly not be reflected in this year's evaluation. well if you're not going to reflect the mass graves of rohemia muslims and what the government of malaysia did or did not do, the holding pens of humans because it came after the reporting period, then you can't claim that the government's action to pass a law that has no teeth no enforcement, and that hasn't even been put into effect after the date, the same date that you say you cannot consider the plight of hundreds who lost their lives then you can't consider the passage of a hollow bill. it doesn't work both ways, mr. president. even the malaysian bar the nation's association of legal professionals, stated in a letter last week -- quote -- "if there is any lesson to be learned from recent experience,
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it must be that the government has an excellent record of drafting written plans but a less than satisfactory record of implementing them. as such, the upgrade of malaysia if it were to occur would be premature and undeserved." close quote. the fact is by the trafficking in persons report's own admission, the malaysian government has only three -- three -- human rights convictions in 2014 a two-thirds decrease from the last report. so compared to the last trafficking in persons report, they had a two-thirds decrease in their convictions of human rights abuses. yet, they get an upgrade. wow, that's a sure-fire way to send a message across the world that we're serious about human trafficking.
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frankly, that's beyond comprehension and common sense. mr. president, there can be no clearer statement no more compelling statement than we have lowered the bar on human trafficking and lessened the value of the one report the world relies on to evaluate the behavior of nations. the events of recent months have clearly shown that the malaysian government has not even begun to adequately address their human being trafficking problem. thousands of victims continue to be exploited through tex trafficking and force -- through sex trafficking and forced labor. and it was unnecessary to do this mr. president. having passed an amendment that would have said tier 3 countries in the trafficking in persons report of the state department would not be allowed preferential access to the u.s. market unless they cleaned up their record, which had a strong bipartisan support of members of the senate finance committee and
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ultimately was incorporated in the t.p.a., the trade promotion authority legislation that passed the senate and was sent to the house in good faith because of concerns that maybe that would undermine the trans-pacific partnership. in good faith i negotiated an amendment, a provision to change in the amendment that would have said you could still negotiate with malaysia, but they had to clean up their act. if you concluded that negotiation and they were part of t.p.p., they had to clean up their act on human trafficking before they got the preferential access to u.s. markets. i thought it was a significant give on my part considering the vote of the senate, but it was a good-faith effort. so this wasn't even necessary to do unless you just want to give malaysia a pass.
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the goal was to take the full weight off of the t.p.p. deal -- i should say take the full weight of the t.p.p. deal off the trafficking and persons report process. instead of choosing the route we worked out together, requiring the president to testify in writing that malaysia has taken concrete steps to deal with their very serious human trafficking problem the administration backed out. i see no reason why the comprehensive ban on fast-track for human traffickers should be amended. i see no reason why my willingness to accommodate should be amended. this underscores the need for further oversight of the trafficking in persons process both legislatively and through the noble work of human rights groups here in washington and out in the field. i plan to work with my colleagues to advance my amendment to the state authorization bill passed by the senate foreign relations
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committee last month which requires the state department to notify congress of all trafficking in persons upgrades and downgrades 30 days prior to the release of the report. i am looking forward to speaking to the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee to see if he -- when in a very busy schedule because we have all of the iran nuclear review, but it seems to me that this merits a congressional hearing to determine what went on here. and if i for some reason cannot achieve that, then i may very well turn to the inspector general of the department to seek a report as to what went on here. despite the clear will of copping, this administration has made a mistake and will now have to answer questions as to its ability to objectively evaluate global human trafficking. the hardworking committed n.g.o.'s who labor in the field to fight human trafficking and
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the countless victims who continue to suffer deserve an honest reflection of american values not an arbitrary determination based on expediency and achieving a limited political objective rather than a real solution. i look forward to working with all the groups who have been instrumental in shining a light on the continued human rights abuses that take place in malaysia in cuba elsewhere to ensure that the integrity of the trafficking in persons report is restored. thousands of men women and children around the world who are victims of human trafficking, it is on their behalf that i come to the floor. it is in their interests and in the interests of responsible trade policy that recognizes there can be no reward to nations who ignore these types of trafficking in persons and do nothing to end the scourge of what amounts to modern-day slavery. one of the great moral
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challenges of our time. it is for the world's 50 million refugees and displaced people, the largest number since world war ii, many of whom are targets of traffickers because they're displaced have nowhere to go, they are preyed upon. we have the largest number since world war ii of refugees in the world. it is for the 36 million women and 5 million children around the world subjected to involuntary labor or sexual exploitation. for the victims of these crimes, the term "modern slavery" more starkly describes what is happening around the world and i will continue to fight against human trafficking in all its forms, and i intend to fight for the integrity of the report that is a critical tool for us to be able not only to pass the light upon human trafficking in the world but to get countries to understand that they must their country. and that's why i come so
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incredibly upset to the senate floor on something that i never would have thought would have happened mr. president. but it has. and we need to change it. and change the course of events. with that, mr. president i observe the absence of a >> on the next washington journal, ray lahood talks about the highway transit fund. and megan mccarthy discusses the current legislative and legal challenges facing the health care law. you will also take your phone calls and look for your comments on facebook and twitter. washington journal is live every day at 7:00 a.m. eastern on c-span. >> cabinet officials returned to capitol hill tomorrow to testify on the aranda nuclear agreement. the house foreign affairs
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committee hears from jack lew. that is live at 10:00 a.m. eastern on c-span3. >> 15-year-old catherine for guerrilla was nine when she watched her parents being arrested in a televised anti-immigration rate. recently, she set on a panel of undocumented immigrants talking about sheriff arpio. carlos: this panel is called the people versus arpaio. we have an amazing panel. we will start out today with a
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small video. it is important to show the video because it showcases one of our own panelists and shelley a little bit into our world. you'll be able to see a little bit. a attention. there are some clips of the chain gangs, jails, and what he is done to our community. and the filmmaker is in the room and the full-length film will be showing tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. in room 223 and catherine will be there as well. i want to invite everyone there. you should see the full film and join them tomorrow. we will go ahead and get started and it is about a five-minute clip for the movie. >> breaking news coming into us
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right now. the sheriff's office is executing a search warrant. 25 different employees at possibly could be illegal immigrants. this is investigated by the sheriff's office for employers violations. >> i know how to solve the problem. why do i get all of the heat because someone does something wrong and i use the word punishment, which no one else will use? why should they not be punished? >> [crying] >> she is catherine for guerrilla, the phoenix girl whose plea to the president is being seen around the world on you too.
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-- youtube. >> they were not born here and they say that is against the law. >> [speaking spanish] >> carwash. >> what house is this? >> my and. >> are you staying with her? >> no, just yesterday. today, i think i am going with my other aunt. >> there is only one reason -- it is you. >> 90 years old. >> i will vote as long as i am here. >> can i be the sheriff at 90? >> most older people are afraid of children and afraid of people who don't obey the law because those people are nasty.
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they have to be punished. >> this year, immigration has become a source of fresh contention in our country with the passage of a controversial law in arizona and immediate reaction we have seen across america. >> 20 other states are considering similar legislation. >> this law does not fix the immigration problem. it adds new problems. >> law or no law we will still do our crime suppression operation and continue enforcing illegal immigration laws. >> we are at 35 tonight. now they are going to go to jail. >> we are scared to go out. >> if they have to hide, i have to hide. >> [speaking spanish]
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>> today, you will years in testimony on how it affects children, communities, and families. i will begin with catherine for guerrilla. >> i would like to send a message to arpaio. >> i am taking a little heat on my crackdown on illegal immigration. the justice department launched an investigation. who do they think they are? this is my hate file. they get pretty nasty. shows you how volatile this whole situation is. is it taking? i don't know. >> eric holder said there will be some responsibility. your thoughts? >> maybe it was not a correct
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remark to make. i work for my reputation and no one will take that away. >> destruction of evidence financial fraud, abuse of power. >> this is the most out of control law enforcement in america. no one from the mexican on the street to the presiding judge of the criminal court -- no one is a safe. >> i kept thinking that maybe i would see my parents when i got back home. >> [speaking spanish] [crying] >> [speaking spanish] >> what do we want? >> justice! >> when to do we want it? >> now!
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>> the matter how it turns out i wanted justice. period. >> ♪ >> with our blood sweat, tears. get out of my country. ♪ >> i don't want anything that happened to have been again. -- to happen again. ♪ [applause] >> welcome, everyone. my name is carlos garcia and imd director. what we are going to do today is
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have a conversation with the six people up here and we will do a series of questions and open it up for questions from people in the room. i also wanted to recognize the parents of catherine who were also in the room. they are here and you saw them in the video and for their fight and continuing to support their daughter. i wanted -- [applause] we can get started with catherine and asking the question of what it was like. what is it like looking at the video and seeing what happened and in that moment, what was a like to see our parents being arrested on tv? ms. forfigeroa: it was really hard. i felt alone like i was in a completely different world. i knew i had my family members with me but it was not the same.
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i knew that i had to fight for them to matter what [emotional] --how they fought for me. they always wanted a good education for me. they are -- they are everything to me so i knew i had to fight for them. it was really hard. i -- i was scared i would maybe never see them again. i was scared of the got deported, i would stay here alone and nobody would want me because i wouldn't have any parents. i felt like people weren't going to like me. [crying]
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i was really scared but once i started hearing about things i could do to help my parents, i did them, i fought for them, and i did everything so i could be them again. -- with them again. [applause] [applause] >> we are all very proud of you. >> thank you for sharing. one of my mentors has been fighting for a long time fighting the whole time. i want to ask you, why did a rpaio do this? why did you start doing this to our people? >> let me take a few seconds to
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tell you how inspirational -- for those of you who were not here as this unraveled, this was arpaio's first televised worksite raid and what catherine had to go through is to see their own parents taken away. what inspired catherine, she then entered inspired -- in turn inspired all of us in the community and i want to recognize her and her parents. she fought to get them out of that once they were out, they continued the battle to make sure it doesn't happen ever again. [applause] >> what inspires arpaio? what makes him who he is? he is a racist pig, etc. etc. i think there is a certain version, a certain pleasure in what he does.
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let me remind you that his first major what he calls crime suppression rates -- these are neighborhood raids where he would send hundreds of officers into them and build temporary jails in parking lots -- the first one was on good friday. it was on good friday and he was aimed precisely at the people who were going to mass and going to church. what we got to witness that day was people dressed well on their way to church or coming from church being walked through all of the media. remember, this was the first one. all of the media was there. local, national, international. they got to watch mexicans being carted. so, part of it is -- really, it
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is a personal hatred, a personal perversion, a personal sickness and him. the other part is pure politics. this is arizona, a very fine point of the arrow of hatred towards immigrants, towards mexicans, latinos. he has learned to exploit that. he is, we must concede, perhaps a sick man but a highly talented one at manipulating the media and in sharing his political longevity. >> next, victoria lopez formally on the florence project. the torilla, who was arpaio -- victoria, who was arpaio before he decided to go after the community? ms. lopez: interestingly, i had
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not caught the club before. he says "i work hard for my reputation." he has been working hard at it for a long time. certainly, one of the areas he has been the tory aslee -- notorious at by letting peoples rights is in the gl. through his -- in the jail -- the tory us at violating >> all of you should participate in the action going on tomorrow afternoon in a campaign to try to shut down the city. building tent city as part of his political strategy to show how he was so willing to go after people and punish people in a really degrading and dehumanizing way.
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we had been involved in litigation around the jail conditions for over 40 years now. that litigation has been going on longer than i have been alive, challenging the inadequate health care, the overall conditions in the gl documenting people having to be in the tents in oppressive heat. there are people currently dealing with the oppressive conditions. this is something that he continues to use as part of his political platform to gain favor with those who support him touting how terrible the conditions are touting having people in the jails where pink -- wear pink underwear that is
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an effort to dehumanize people in the community. not just immigrants, but for people, people facing jail and the criminal justice system. that was clearly part of his political agenda and his political platform was around the conditions in the jails. we saw maybe we could market with the sheriff's office entering into an agreement with the federal government. it propelled the conversation about immigration enforcement and authorizing local agencies to engage in immigration activities. that was not -- that was through agreements a liver the country. through that agreement and through that process, i would
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say it emboldened the share of and agency to begin the dramatic increase in immigration enforcement activity in the county. there have been particular moments certainly through what he has done in the gl and the area of immigration enforcement that has served as a platform for him for many years. this has been going on for decades. >> thank you. next, mr. morrowms. romero. she is working toward her deferred action. what was it like inside the gl? please speak a little of what your experience was like. >> my experience was not the
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best. [laughter] >> it was something i never thought i would be living but unfortunately, i had to be in that jail for three months. i remember the ugly striped uniform that smelled horrible. another thing was i had to share a room with over hundred 25 other girls -- 125 other girls. i had to share a shower. the food in there -- just the name sounds horrible. "slop." it is really smelly and it is food that i don't even think a dog would eat.
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there were times when the sl op had worms and they said that was fine and it was just vitamins. there was a time i got my milk and it was rotten and they said i had to drink it that way. another thing --every time i would visit, they would handcuff me to a table. i was not allowed to have contact with my family members. [crying] i'm sorry. after those two months, i was transferred to the detention center.
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when i got there, they offered me an application to work. i said i would not take it because the reason i was there was because i was working and i didn't think it was fair to go in there and work for them for one dollar a day. >> thank you. [applause] >> next, jose. what was the raid like for you and what was your experience like and can you paint a picture of that experience? what were you thinking when that happened?
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>> [speaking spanish] >> thank you for being here. >> [speaking spanish] >> my name is jose and i was one of the many victims of arpaio. >> [speaking spanish] >> october 18, 2012 was a normal day like any other at my job. i left my home around 4:30 in the morning. i never expected that this would happen to me. >> [speaking spanish]
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>> i arrived at work and we had to load the trucks with material. >> [speaking spanish] >> all of the sedin, we heard people say -- all of the sud den, we heard people say the share of's arrived -- sherriff's arrived. we were completely surrounded. it was probably 60-80. >> we were told to sit on the ground. not to move or to try anything.
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they had us from 5:00 until 9:00 in the morning sitting on the ground. >> [speaking spanish] >> as soon as i saw it was the sheriff, i was scared for my family. i knew the share of's -- sheriffs were deporting people. >> [speaking spanish] >> i thought i would be deported and never see my family. i didn't know if to call my wife or leave it. >> [speaking spanish]
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>> i finally called her while no one was looking. >> [speaking spanish] >> and the sheriff saw me and study would break the phone. -- said he would break the phone. >> i told my wife that arpaio was there and he would take me. >> we were transferred to 4th avenue jail. they had us overnight and a little of the next day. >> they transferred me to the jail. i was there for 4.5 months.
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it is a terrible, ugly place. i would never wish it on anyone. the food was terrible. >> [speaking spanish] >> there are many times i preferred not to eat at all. most of the food is rotten. >> [speaking spanish] >> the clothes you had to wear whether they fit or not. the rooms were cold.
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>> imsi am sick. i have a problem with my back. i could not do too much movement. when i got there, i had a top bunk. it was very difficult for me to climb every morning and come down. i asked if i could get the bottom bunk. they said no. i said i was sick and he said he didn't care. i had to sleep wherever he told
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me. i asked for an appointment with a doctor and it was not until they wanted me to see the doctor until i got it. when it came for the appointment, i told the doctor and he said i needed an actual official form from the officer so that he could give me the bottom bunk. i went with the officer and told him what i had been told and he said i needed a doctor's note so he would give me the bottom bed. they were just playing around with me. they are really ugly experiences. [applause]

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