fifth year that general dempsey and his wife have joined us and participated with the military child education coalition. gen. dempsey is the 18th chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. he and deedee have been married 39 years. they have raised three children all three of whom have worn the uniform to defend this great nation. day in and day out, they have been stalwart supporters to what we do and what we stand for. and our efforts to support the military child. it is with great honor and pleasure that i introduce two good friends. general marty dempsey and his wife deedee. [applause]

>> we are glad to be back. has been said, this is our fifth year so for those of you who know how the military works, i now qualify for my silver oakleaf cluster. every year it has been an absolute joy to see you and feel the commitment you make to our children. dededee will remind you that there are things that you have to do and then there are things that we get to do. we get to spend time with people like you. as we come to the end of our career, that is the part we will really miss. really briefly, then i will turn it over to dd and then we will bring a panel of distinguished

questioners, today in history chris kristofferson was born. some of you are old enough to remember chris kristofferson. he kind of crosses generations. many of us are member him as a country-western -- remember him as a country-western singer with johnny cash and the highwayman. others remember him as an actor in the "blade" movies as whis tler and in "a dolphin tale." he has done pretty good for himself in entertainment. he described being a military child as magical privileged, and painful at the same time. many of us can relate to what that means. he commissioned into the army and volunteered to vietnam

instead they sent him to west point to teach english. while teaching english, he decided to get out of the military and pursue his career in music. i mention that because i was a captain at west point teaching english and i decided to sta y. i have often wondered -- [laughter] not really. i did want to mention that image of painful privileged and magical at the same time. let me turn it over to duty and -- deedee and then we will bring out those youngsters. deedee: as moms, thank you for what you do for kids. as we get the privilege to travel around and talk to families and hear their issues, we can say that msec is working on that. you ought to be proud of what you do for all of those kids. i wish that they had been there

when my kids were little itty bitties, but we were. there are kids all over who are thanking you and appreciate what you do even if you do not know what it thank you, select your the questions from the kids. gen. dempsey: when is the raffle? i have been holding onto my ticket. i heard there was a ruffle. where is pam? i was hoping to be part of it. >> [inaudible] [laughter] gen. dempsey: ok. don't make eye contact. [laughter] deedee: they are here. gen. dempsey: this is a great group of youngsters. the best thing to do is to start by having you introduce yourselves.

then you will ask me the first question. introduce yourself. >> i am katelynn johnson from falcon high school in colorado and i will be a junior. >> i am sarah from washington. i will be a senior next year. >> i am a junior in florida. >> i am raul gonzalez and i am owing to junior high. >> i am a junior at falcon high school in colorado. gen. dempsey: how about a round of applause? [applause] ok katelynn. >> general dempsey. how do you define your success? gen. dempsey: i don't know. [laughter] oh, you want me to extrapolate? >> yes, please. gen. dempsey: that is a great question. it works at a bunch of levels.

the thing i am most proud of, about myself -- although pride is counter to humility which i think is the greatest virtue of all in senior leaders but i am proud of being a soldier. not much more than that. meeting, it is not about the stars -- meaning it is not about the stars. that surprises people sometimes. i am proud of being a soldier, a husband and a father. >> do you think that failure plays a part in that success? gen. dempsey: could you the question? can you say something to make sure they hear you? >> yes, sorry. do you think that failure plays a part in that success? gen. dempsey: failure plays a part in every success. in life -- i'm sure, you have overcome your old -- own challenges. it's like chumbawamba, i get

knocked down and i get up again. [laughter] i am trying to connect to the kids. do you want me to break into uptown funk you up? ♪ don't believe me just watch ♪ it really is true. you measure the path of life and the ability to stumble and keep on the path. there are some things that i tell youngsters, to include my own kids, being in high school is about keeping doors open. every door that you imagine is open to you until you do something to close it. that is the great thing about being american. i am a grandson of four irish immigrants. my father was a postman and my mother stocked shelves at a convenience store. i am the chairman of the joint

chiefs of staff. that would not happen anyplace us. the doors are open, you just cannot close them. you can stumble, you just cannot fall flat on your face. i believe it to your imagination to decide which are stumbles and which are catastrophe. do you want to add anything? >> no. gen. dempsey: you get your own questions? deedee: i am not helping you with yours. [laughter] gen. dempsey: anything else? >> that is it, for now. >> i have a question, mr. dempsey. if you had to start over again that our age, would you have done anything if really? -- anything differently? deedee: when i was your age is when i met this guy sitting next to me. the life i lead, i never would have imagined at that age and

out looking back i would not have changed it. it has been an amazing ride. i don't think i would. >> general dempsey, i have a question for you. gen. dempsey: good. >> are you ready? do you have any mentors? gen. dempsey: of course. mentors are an important part of growing up. it is a two-way street. you can want anyone to be your mentor, they have to want to be that in return. i have been blessed, in particular that the military leaders i have chosen -- by the way, they do not always have to be older than you. i have peers who i consider to be mentors. i have military mentors some of whom are still on active duty. though, i am now, for better or worse, the oldest officer on active duty. it is hard to find someone older

than me to mentor me. even -- mike shish ascii -- mike ksyewski is a great friend. if you are not a duke fan, you probably do not care. if you are a yankee fan you have to live with people from boston. but mentors can illuminate -- they cannot actually do it for you. you have to do it yourself but they can illuminate ideas you may not have had the opportunity to think for yourself. you can take them in. you are the aggregate of the things that impress you and inspire you. i am not a person who believes that you need one mentor. i think that you have to cast your net very wide so you can

understand how others have done it and then decide how much of each of them will become you. ultimately it is you. >> have they impacted your life? gen. dempsey: constantly. i get phone calls, sometimes unsolicited and sometimes i reach out every week, for sure. not every day. every week i will reach out or be reached. in particular, on things like -- i am the only one who can define for myself this issue of civilian and military relations. it is challenging. in the information age trying to stay centered as the senior military leader, the advisor to the president and the secretary of defense, the mentor of combatant commanders and the field of servicemen, i have to

work to find that centerline. to make sure we are finding a political -- apolitical best military advice. sometimes i will call up a professor who i have a relationship with and i will say -- how did that go? yesterday's congressional testimony? they will say, you moved a little too close to the shoulder of the road. i have not talked to them today so this is not about yesterday. [laughter] but they will tell me. the left or right of the centerline. not the political left or right but they help center me. they help me think about my job. >> thank you. gen. dempsey: you are welcome. >> mr. dempsey in -- in --

gen. dempsey: we are proud of you. take your time. >> can you describe the life of being married to the general? gen. dempsey: in one word? [laughter] i have this whole vocabulary. deedee: humbling. to be in this position is humbling. you get the opportunity to touch the sailors and marines as you travel around. because of marty's job, i have influence to help in situations. to be given that gift is very humbling. there are probably 50 words i could give -- not yours

probably. if i had to do one, it would be humbling. you are also an ambassador for your country. marty and i do a lot for our counterparts around the world. no matter where you go, we are representing the united states of america. you land in that plane as the united states of america and people are in awe with their cameras, taking pictures. it is neat to know we have been giving this gift to serve our country and our service members and to care about them as best we can. gen. dempsey: your word was better than mine. [laughter] >> general dempsey, how did you become involved with mcec and how are you helping others? gen. dempsey: that is a great question. it started when i was chief

staff of the army. we were asked to come to this thing called mcec, frankly i did not know what it was. deedee: i did. [laughter] gen. dempsey: i didn't, really. the way it works for a four-star general is you have a meeting in your office and you say to your a decamp -- aide de camp, what is next? as you are walking, you prepare for that event. i know that you think i took weeks to prepare for tonight -- today. is it night? [laughter] but it is your lot in life that your life is directed for you. i said to my aide, where are we going? he said mcec. i said, what? i had no idea. and you cannot help but fall in love with the organization and

the idea. just the idea that there is a group of people that gather together with sponsors to try to help military children navigate the path they took. so, i have not missed it since. we build our calendar about six months out. when i build my calendar, there are three to four things we put on the calendar and we tell the rest of the world to fit around it. sometimes the white house is a bit of a challenge. that is why these morning events are better for me. they don't really spring into action until the early afternoon, and well into the evening. [laughter] seriously, it has been a privilege to be a part of it. how has that helped my development? that is the question. the answer is, you can become isolated as the chairman unless

you put yourself out there and try to find out what is going on. i learn a lot from the adults. i will ask a couple of you a question in a minute. i hope you're ready for that. >> mrs. dempsey same question. how did you become involved in mcec? deedee: i was in germany. in what was at that time called awag. american women american= germans. it was this crazy background. i wanted to learn -- crazy acronym. i wanted to learn more about it. my kids were grown and you get away from it. then, we were asked to come back to speak, it renewed that interest and appreciation of what mcec does for all of you kids. >>

which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] -- gen. dempsey: is it my turn? you've got a real future. i said is it my turn? she said, if you would like it to be. [laughter] >> general dempsey, what is some advise you to anyone interested on joining the military? gen. dempsey: advice on joining the military. we are several things. we give young men and women purpose, meaning and variety. we give them a genuine purpose. you can feel like you are accomplishing something and you are part of the team. my instinct is that young men and women in america today, at some level because of electronic devices, are content to sit in the middle of a football field

all by themselves with a laptop connected to the world, you know what i mean? they want to be kind of by themselves but in the virtual world, connected to everybody and everything. what the military does is take that instinct for belonging to something and make it physical. we take it out of the virtual world. from the moment you come in to any service, you are part of the team. that idea is literally drilled into you and it in the -- and it eventually becomes your own. so that's purpose. meaning, there is no higher meaning then be willing to protect your fellow citizens. and then ready, you know, there is a notion that the military is this kind of monolithic giant, faceless carryingless or lack of caring organization. actually, it nurtures. it has a built-in system of mentoring.

importantly, we changed jobs almost constantly. we moved 23 times. how many times have you moved? >> neither of my pairs spin will we will get you in and move you a lot. [laughter] gen. dempsey: not only do we move you geographically but we move you from job to job so you can develop this versatility. we literally invest in your development from the time you come in to the time you get out. the last thing i will tell you there is no more fair place on the planet than in the military. we embrace every race, every ethnic group, every religion. we are literally generalists and becoming even more so. it is genuinely a place where an irish immigrant can become the chairman of the joint chiefs of

staff. that's all i've got for you. >> thank you. gen. dempsey: you're welcome. >> before we came here this week, we were all asked to decide on a defining moment that changes into we are to do and who we will eventually become. and i would like to know if you have a defining moment or moments that kind of major the man u are today. gen. dempsey: well, that's a profound question, young lady. >> thank you. gen. dempsey: a good question actually. you know, a defining moment is tough to pin down, but i will fill you this. for about the first -- on when i -- we talked about this often. i went to west point because my mother wanted me to go. i had no interest. the mother wanted me to go.

i got there and it let my fire and i got enthusiastic about it. deanie and i were not sure that we wanted to spend our lives in the military. i said to her, after five years my obligation is over. i get out and i will become whatever. five years came and i was humming and high and the next thing you know, we were on this slope to 41 years. but what was fascinating was that i got out to about 18 or 19 years or so and i was contemplating leaving a 20th. -- at 20. and our kids were saying you can i get out. i said, wait a minute, i thought i was the one keeping us in. it had flipped actually. my wife and children had become

just as inspired or maybe even more inspired and so here we are. that was part of a conversation as my son was struggling over whether to go to west point or not. he had an up limit to west point as well as to some really incredible rotc opportunities and he went to west point. my son went to west point. my daughter went to west point right after him good and our son went to wake forest on an rotc scholarship here in the finest moment for me was when it became not just my particular passion but our family's passion. >> general dempsey, what were your goals that you set out to accomplish in the joint of the -- when you joined the military. what were they. gen. dempsey: when i started? well, when you start west point

your goal is to survive. , [laughter] it's a great question because people ask me now, you know, what do i have to do to become the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. a young lieutenant every once in a while will pop that question. my answer flippantly at first is you shouldn't want to do that. not because of the job. that is not the right question to be asking at 22 years of age. the right question to be asking yourself is what exactly are you trying to do with your life. and in my case, the reason why the military was such a great fit was that i found i had a passion for building teams and for trying to make the team better than the sum of its parts. so you take as a platoon leader, a 30-man -- in those days, it was all men, but now there is women.

that it is a 30-man team and you try to make it the best it can be. not out of some sense of ambition, but because you want to see that team -- one of those things i -- one of the things i am proud of is that one of the proteges that have now succeeded behind me, in terms of legacy your legacy is not a piece of equipment or a particular job. it is what you left behind in terms of a commitment that people make to this profession. that has been the goal. it just got a little bigger overtime. i wanted to do the best i could for those 30 men. now we are trying to figure out how to do the best weekend for 2.1 million. it is a little daunting on occasion, but it is the same goal. what support systems? you can't have come you can't have kind of a steady, firm

foundation of work and go home unless that foundation is equally solid. in other words, to accomplish the goals that you set for yourselves in whatever procession -- profession you choose. and i hope you choose professions, something you can be passionate about. but you have to work equally hard at home to make sure you have a little balance in your life. the first and foremost support system is her family and always been will be your family. in 58 days -- not that i am counting -- when i retire, that's it. those who have been in the military know there is this wonderful ceremony. we pass a flag from one officer to the next. he goes out to the officers club at fort myers, virginia, for a reception. we stand there and shake cans.

all, everybody is gone. literally, everybody is gone. you realize, you know, you go from being invited -- invited to am set to talk to children and go to the white house situation room and appear before congress. when that is done, what you have is your family. you will get invited back if you do well, i suppose. the second thing, in the military, we have two chains of support, the noncommissioned officer for, -- noncommissioned officer corps, which is fantastic. they are brutally honest. they are the standardbearers. they will tell you -- you know, they will complement you when you are doing well and they will plant a boot someplace when you are not. and then you have the officers chain of command which is

actually challenged or chartered to make sure you keep getting the right jobs. we like to put junior officers in a is-ish and where they can succeed. so those are pretty incredible. those three pillars the officer chain of command, the noncommissioned officer chain of command, your family, that is your support. >> and what educational skills do you find, do you find lacking in younger members? gen. dempsey: that's a fair question, i do want to be judgmental, meaning it's not just youngsters who might have particular gaps in the education. just as i said you have to have balance in your

life, you have to have balance in your education. i don't think we should charge down the stem route, that it is all science and mathematics and technology. i don't even know what the e stands for. engineering. [laughter] nor do i believe that it should just be about the humanities. special at your age where you -- especially at your age where you are trying to figure out what interests you and you are trying to build yourself into a well-rounded person athletically or physically spiritually, and intellectually. i am an advocate of casting the net pretty wide. one of the things i heard said about technology is that it makes younger folks kind of a mile wide but only an inch deep.

they know a lot about a lot -- no, a little about a lot here. you will have to be your own judge of that. i would just encourage you to learn for life. you are going to get the mandatory education along the way. that it is what you learn in between that will probably make the biggest difference. i have a little phrase i use with my admirals. readers are readers because they have to keep learning. i don't care what they read. they could read poetry. they could read foreign policy. they could read humanities -- whatever it is. i don't care. business books about management leadership. but they've got to keep reading because you've just got to keep challenging yourself. as long as that occurs, the gaps filled themselves over time. do you have any thoughts about

that? all the mathematics teachers are now gathering at the exit. [laughter] >> you are in a very high leadership position and should face the challenges along the way. could you tell us some of what the biggest challenges you faced in your career? gen. dempsey: the biggest challenge in military is always making sure that when we ask young men and women to go someplace to defend our homeland, to promote our national interest and put themselves in harms way, the biggest challenge is making sure they are ready to it is also the hardest part of the job. the decision to send young men and women into harm's way cannot be made without the utmost care and consideration. it doesn't mean we have to be reluctant or reticent to use the military. but when we use it, we have to

be confident it will achieve the purpose for which we use it. and inside of that, it is getting them ready, making sure -- it is not a cliche, but we say often that we've got to be and should be the best trained the best lead, and the best equipped force on the planet at every level. whether i was a second lieutenant or now a four-star general, it is really about making sure that america's sons and orders -- sons and daughters who are interested in our care are prepared to do what they can do. most of the time, they can accomplish that task. on occasion, we don't. and it's heartbreaking when we don't. i'm back. >> we have one more question. i have one more. okay, what department of defense systems of support are working for the benefit of military connected children -- connected children? gen. dempsey: i may have to

phone a friend here. [laughter] deanie: the policy and freshman rosemary williams. i know who has it. [inaudible] yes, and family policy. that's the one. they are definitely connected to the kids. she runs the form and she puts that information here in we in turn give her information or issues to be worked. gen. dempsey: now, that's the office and she's kind of a person who runs the office, but i'll tell you the support group is for military families are the chiefs of staff of the services. and their senior enlisted leaders. deanie: and their spouses. gen. dempsey: one of the reasons we traveled is interact with counterparts around the world. but when we traveled domestically, my principal purpose

is to make sure that we are giving our young air men soldiers, marines, and coast guard members what they need and find out what is going right and, importantly, what is not going right. then we get back on the airplane and i am trying to fall asleep and she is wearing me out. yap, yap yap. [laughter] what are we going to do about this or that? but it's good. we take the questions we've got and see if we can find answers and we always do because everybody really cares. so it is the chain of command. it is not just cliche. there is a big sign there that says five minutes. [laughter] what if i want six? [laughter] again, i am not here to recruit

you, but i would be happy to do so. what we say in the military is that we recruit individuals. we recruit caitlin into the military. we get you as an individual. but then we convince you and your family that it is in your best interest as a family to stay with us. and we do really well with that. it is one office. it is the profession that is the support structure. ok, we probably have four minutes now. >> do you have any questions for us? gen. dempsey: i probably do. where did it go? it went from five to two. [laughter] which clock are you on? greenwich made it -- greenwich meridian or something? with that two minutes i'm not going to get to you. what i do want to do is tell you

thanks. it is courageous. we do this all the time, so sitting in front of those people, it comes second nature to us now. but i'm sure for you, it is a little bit frightening. maybe not. maybe some of you are studying theater or something and you might break out into song, which is what i am going to do right now. ok, here we go. [laughter] [applause] you have to stand up and line up here with me. this is aerobic so we will get a little blood flowing. i do this every year. and i get invited back so it must be ok. despite whoever is running that thing, trying to kick me off the stage. i am not leaving until i finish this song. you can't make me. it is a little irish ditty known as "the unicorn song." do you know the motions? you are going to learn the

motions. here is how it goes. ♪ well, there were green alligators and longnecked geese there were humpty dumpty camels and chimpanzees [laughter] there were cats and rats and elephants and sure as you are born, the loveliest of all was the unicorn. ok. a long time ago. ♪ a long time ago when the earth was green there were all kinds of animals than you have ever seen they run around free when the earth was being born and the loveliest of all was the unicorn well, there were green alligators and longnecked geese there were humpty back camels and chimpanzees there were cats and rats and elephants and sure as you're born

the loveliest of all was the unit: well done. ladies and gentlemen, another round of applause for my chorus. [applause] deanie: great jobs. you guys are great. >> thanks so much. gen. dempsey: thanks. i wish you all the best. thanks very much. great questions. okay. then: please welcome back to the stage for special for a special presentation to stage general ben griffin and mary keller. mary: this year since it is your , fifth year, this is a present for deanie for the special artist, a hand blown

purple ball for joint. -- purple bowl for joint. deanie: thank you. gen. dempsey: thank you. [applause] the greatest is weak it is to -- the greatest gifts we get is to see you all together doing what doing. so thanks so much. deanie: thank you. [applause] general griffin: general dempsey, general dempsey, before you leave, i want to tell you there were wonderful words for children of any age and adults of any age. i want to thank both of you for your service to this nation and a tremendous job you have done in defense of this nation, in support of the military and again in support of the military

child coalition education. i know you well and i just want from the bottom of my heart thank is so much, not only what you do for military children in military families, but for the armed forces. gen. dempsey: thanks. [applause] till we meet again.

on monday on c-span the c-span radio, and c-span.org followed by your reaction by phone and on facebook and twitter. [applause] >> new jersey governor and republican presidential candidate chris christie spoke about national security and foreign-policy taking questions on the iran nuclear agreement with defense funding. the university of new hampshire. this is an hour. >> my 2nd speech of this national conversation on tax and regulatory reform. i think the folks for their continuing courtesy and cordiality. i want wantcordiality. i want to thank my friend. it was my to come here and

conveying for you the number of times i did and give support. your campaign is one we are extraordinarily proud of and one that made a real difference because of the conversation that new hampshire voters not to participate in. i know that while new hampshire is doing okay new hampshire would be doing well. [applause] >> the 1st lady of new hampshire. [applause] it is great to see judy as well. home with their children. i don't wanti don't want to speak too long.

i want to leave the majority of time for questions to talk about our role in the world and the opportunities that are here as well. in a presidency that has been generally disappointing, overpromised and under delivered of the worst thing is pres. has done for seven years now nearly is present is the agreement he reached two weeks ago yesterday. i say that because i believe that it will lead to a fundamental a bending of nuclear deterrent in our world over the last 70 years. what the president is done the secretary kerry has done is decide that a bada bad deal is better than mobile. when this started my view

was america want to deal with iran needed a deal. the way negotiations have ended it appears america needed a deal in iran just want to deal. there are different things we could talk about. the five-year lifting of conventional weapons embargo, the eight-year lifting of the technology for ballistic missile development is contained within this agreement, but the worst part is the pres. stood in front of us and did not tell us the truth. the fundamental underpinning of this agreement pres. himself said is that it was not based upon trust the verification. he stood before us and said we can have inspections anytime anywhere. it turns out his idea of

anytime anywhere is significantly different from the common understanding of those words in our language. let me give you an example. if there is a place or location we believe they're may be cheating going on and request an inspection, if you listen to anytime anywhere you would think that means anywhere, this place, anytime, right now. the irradiance can object and if they do it goes to arbitration, and that panel as up to 24 days to make a decision. it hardly seems like anytime anywhere. my experience as a prosecutor it is analogous. if as us attorney for new jersey i have evidence that someone in this audience was committing a crime and there

was probable cause the crime was being committed the judge reviewed and approved the search warrant and i came near home and knocked on the front door and said i have a search warrant to search your home families criminal conduct is occurring here in the way back in 24 days to search your home. [laughter] even the stupidest criminal in new jersey, if i gave in 24 days would be able to figure out how to get it out of the before i came back. and this is an aside,aside having some of the stupidest criminals in america but even there even there the stupidest criminal would find a way to move the evidence out. the bad news for america's national security the iranians are far from stupid

far from stupid command they will use these opportunities pres. has willingly given of this agreement to thwart any effective verification of this agreement and put them on the threshold of nuclear weapons. it is best for three reasons in my opinion. iran is still the largest state sponsor of terrorism in the world. there is no common sense reason why you would willingly give these folks the opportunity to become a nuclear power. it is bad because the middle east is already in turmoil and this we will lead to a nuclear eyes middle east. if you are the saudi's were egyptians or jordanians were immoralities and see this agreement you are going to

start to pursue a nuclear weapona nuclear weapon yourself if you have not already. developing on your own through purchasing technology to other states or combination which is bad because we don't need it even less stable middle east with now folks who have thousand -year-old conflict with each other possessing nuclear weapons to use in attempting to resolve those thousand your complex. third, it is disastrous for his room which is our best and truest ally in the region it is amazing to me that the israelis without the table. it is amazing to me that the concerns that the prime minister would have given

greater weight but his frustration, and it is shameful that this president decided the only world leader is willing to stand up to and parade in public is the prime minister of israel. this deal is directly to those through problems3ç9-xñ and indirectly contributed to our part. the president during the new line. the façade used chemical weapons take them out. you can agree or disagree with the pres. empowered to make a decision and makes it if those weapons are used to most back of the threat is made. if this president is used chemical weapons and had 220,000 people murdered 220,000 people murdered did not. it makes no sense.

the only way it makes sense to put feel -- the real she was subterranean supporters support aside, if your more concerned with making a bad deal that you are keeping your word is president and you look the other way. syrians are killed in cold blood and have literally hundreds of thousands stream of the border and jordan and leave their home country middle east is always been a complicated and difficult place. the pres.. the president has done is very close to a manageable

which is what we need to do with the vp for us. the 2nd thing is that absolutely interwoven into any discussion in these days national security and military has been discussion of national intelligence capabilities. it has become a complicated and difficult world. i am about to have an historic from you.you. one of the only times you will ever here this about to quote jimmy carter. i feel uncomfortable about it. it gives me a little bit of a twinge in my neck. pres. carter is right once or twice. #given interview a couple weeks ago kindly asked about the obama foreign-policy.

here is what jimmy carter said i cannot think of one country that we have a better relationship with today that the day he became pres. thatpresident. that came from a president of his own party. the world has become a more complicated and difficult place because of the lack of american leadership as personified by this president. the need for accurate real-time intelligence in our country is even more acute. in this world in terrorist activity by groups like al qaeda and isis and hezbollah we need to interdict before they act. it is not good enough to gets them afterwards. a single indispensable part

of that is being active, engaged, well-funded intelligence committee. the report democrats put out last december regarding the intelligence efforts was an awful, partisans to put out by the democrats in the waning days in control of the u.s. senate that hurt morale and contained outright falsehoods. the pres. has continued to this path in my opinion with his conduct and added to some members of congress for the nsa and the efforts we are making to interdict terrorist activities before it starts. let me be clear.

i am in the only person who has reviewed and approved applications of the patriot act, the only person who has reviewed and approved matters before the foreign intelligence courts. investigated, indicted prosecuted, and convicted terrorists who were attempting to kill americans on our soil. ..

or has a complete disregard for the level of dangethear our country faces from those who are trying to attack us or kill us er day just because we're americans who stand for freedom and liberty around the world. >> >> and i would say to my attorney general if any intelligence officers in the united states of one of our citizens could be prosecuted but do not throw the capability out because you fear someone might miss use it you police the use of the capability.

so we need to be serious about our intelligence capabilities ladies and gentlemen,. advocate to build up the military can build around the world and to be clear with the adversaries about the limits of our patients but that will only partially do the job if really have a vigorous intelligence capability around the world. those are the things we need to do in my view to begin to rebuild america's image around the world with our ability to defend ourselves and the ability to be a positive force for our allies around the world. i have no interest in the young men and women of the united states of america to be the world's policeman but i have no interest to be

president of united states where we are not the world's leader in there is a difference between the two. our allies around the world once american leadership and needs american leadership. we need to work with them and lead. because that is what a great nation does. as for adversaries around the world of i am president of united states generates 2017, nothing will happen in this role that will lead to a misunderstanding. its people can say things about me bed being misunderstood typically is not one of them may speak in plain and direct english and the translator could translate very quickly. thought that is not meant to intimidate our adversaries but to inform them.

so they know the true limits of american patients and what our willingness will be to help if that is a way that promotes freedom and security around the world. that is why i was excited when walsh gave me the opportunity to speak to who are concerned about the issues of our country and look forward to taking your questions as we move forward. thank you for your time. i appreciate it. [applause] >> thank you governor it is my pleasure to introduce our moderator for today. jefes known to everyone in the granite state and i am delighted he is here at the

forum. thank you. [applause] >> thank you very much. it is a pleasure to cover your campaign last year. and we do have an alternative for your news we have cabman's the gramm here and now governor christie. i'll start with iran driving into work this morning i heard acres christie commercial. we have heard a lot of those lately for you were criticizing it as you just were. if you were president right now what would your deal be like with iran? >> we would have walked away months ago first of all,.

[applause] >> negotiations are not linear. the president is trapped to defend a bad deal and his offense is tell me what your deal would look like. that is not the way things work is not either/or because negotiations are not static but this should have changed six months ago when they were not showing a willingness to do a fair deal with the united states for the president should have said to the secretary of state, cold and deliver the message to the foreign minister of iran which you are serious about wanting a fair deal that is fair to the rest of the world and accomplishes what we need to accomplish. then call me. you have my number.

reagan walked away from reykjavik. he got criticism here for walking away but he understood no deal is better than a bad deal. what happened? one year later gorbachev was back for a better deal for the united states to help preserve peace between our two countries since that time. that would not have accepted this deal after every extension i would have walked away to keep the sanctions emplace if not strengthen them. the premise of this from the beginning because of the damage to the economy by

worldwide sanctions. so i would have walked away from the table. negotiation is a dynamic thing. king iran they know they have you. they may take you a little more seriously. >> we have a lot of great questions from every buddy here. ready stand in the way of israel to stand in the way of the nuclear facilities? >> acting in the national interest their allies and

their friends. that is what good friends to but do i believe the united states should stop israel? know. because it has of right to defend itself. as president with the prime minister did conneaut through. >> before i go to another topic a couple of your rivals have announced the nomination to scrap said deal on day one. what is your thought? what we do with this deal? >> it is awful. from what we will do january 20th.

>> let's be smart. but the events are changing so rapidly and how you would go about doing it i can tell you this. if the iranians into it, i suspect that they will there is plenty of reasons to walk away. and not just pound our chest. because it is much more serious than that. >> people coming over from -- over the border, who is the bigger threat china or russia? >> russia. there are a bigger threat because their economy is in such bad shape. ioc any reason at the moment

why prices will go up so as a result the economy will continue to be in bad shape so then they often act out to keep the people at home distracted from their own economic problems over the next 10 years russia is a greater threat four years ago mitt romney said in the debate with the president that russia was a great threat and the president mocked him and said that the '70s were calling asking for their policy back. that is a cute line but the president could not use that now. he was right to richet have listened to him we would be a lot better off if we had governor romney. >> why does the united states not provided defensive weapons like the ukraine who was attacked by extras forces coming from

russia? >> i think we should are more folks around the world like the kurds and the folks in the parade we should be having serious conversation with them about their need for additional weaponry around -- from the united states. there is no reason not to have this conversation and we need to send some clear signals to president putin. some of his actions may indicate we have reached a limit of our patients. >> would you continue the president's policy to build business relations with india that could be the next superpower? >> about seven months ago i had the opportunity is in new york city to meet with the prime minister. very interesting.

my impression is he is very forward thinking modern thinker trying to move india into greater economic development to be connected with the world and seems to be someone who understands how important participation in democracy is and his election was one that was participated in by a record number of indian citizens. i think there would be worthwhile to continue into conversations on those issues. but those interested in having a strong relationship to make that even stronger that is that huge market for american products as well. >> back on your initial comments of the of military funding. you are as a native of new jersey?

correct? given the problems of the u.s. what about the defense needs? >> reapportion defense spending in takeout and time is. right now entitlements are 71 percent of federal spending. if we continue down that path we will have no money to spend on anything else. by the way remember when debt service is charged as a record low interest rates. of interest rates go up it will get really interesting. that is why we put out a detailed plan of one plane to a trillion dollars over the next 10 years to reapportion the spending that we have now. we cannot spend any more we have now we cannot afford to we have to reapportion. i believe to spend more national defense and

national intelligence also the national institutes of health and national science foundation to partner with private sector's share bring getting - - cutting edge development rather medicine or weaponry to continue to do that. that is what america eddies to invest in but we have an entitlement situation as a measure of control. >> to questions on cybersecurity. what is the role of the federal government to make sure the private sector critical infrastructure is safe and secure? >> both on the intelligence side and law-enforcement side of the operation we need to make sure interacting with our major infrastructure operators in this country to try to protect what is going on.

it is a real threat going forward. and in new jersey the first day in the country to set up a separate cybersecurity operation to protect both the state government assets and partnering with the federal government, and strategy where the joint terrorism task force to work with state and local folks it is important to focus on this because the next war the president has to deal with could be over computer systems and the infrastructure that runs our banks, our power companies and that could become very dangerous and destabilizing for the united states for a pro the need to work very closely with the private sector because so much infrastructure is under the control of the private

sector. >> covered campaign politics i am not an expert but even i understand this seems to be coming from china. beijing it seems has a hand in all of it. what do we do? >> we need to continue to work on our relationship with china. i don't want to see them as an enemy i don't think they are but they are a potential adversary for influence in the world and we need to make sure we're working with them in a way that makes three things really clear. number one we have a relationship over time we want to be your friend.

[laughter] [inaudible] [laughter] >> hiv-2 grow their economy they need access to american markets. second, of we need to make sure we are continuing to have regular to indications with the chinese that very clear they what those objectives are. listen to what the chinese told us the objectives are. and third, i use this again

we have to be very clear that they need to understand that what we have to do is have respect for each other and cyberattacks is an attack on american sovereignty. we are not chinese sovereignty and to make clear those type of things will not be received well. so they need to measure twice and cut once. but all three have to be an approach to chided you are just belligerent that will not help if you don't offer specifically about things that are out of bounds you leave yourself open for misunderstanding. >> i am frustrated.

[laughter] that is not a good thing. [laughter] >> a horrible incident of chattanooga about whether we should garment military personnel. and what the governor said it. >> we should be. we trust these men and women with the most sophisticated weapons that man has ever developed yet we will not trust them with a handgun and sidearm? that does not make sense to me. and the world has changed and evolved since the decision was made in the early '90s. that is before the first world trade center bombing so the world has changed.

it is just an acknowledgement the world has changed but merely the wearing of a uniform thought of american military now makes you a target. weekend acknowledge it and allow these men and women who defend us to defend themselves. that is common sense. [applause] >> national security talking about border security in this country so water earshots yes, sir. thoughts on a comprehensive immigration going forward.

>> first on the border for things need to be done to make the border more secure. the first is we need to build a fence in the areas that makes the most sense. when i say that the very clear, i am not for building all the entire 2000-mile border it doesn't make costa ensor common sense but in the end what we want to do is build walls or fences in the areas where it makes the most sense to do so but not over the entire 2000-mile border. i have never seen a fence sitters even being could not go around or under over so it is a false sense of

security some in places yes bed across the whole border now. not only to beef up the agents but involved a much greater depth the etf and the a and fbi. this is for criminal activity. gunrunning and drug running across the border affected by a professional law enforcement. third of we need electronic surveillance using drones thank cameras along the border around the more difficult parts then to use those to deploy human assets to those areas. and most important every business in america should use e-verify.

that came here to vote. it is not the goal. almost every undocumented person i have spoken to has come here to work. if that worker is no longer available they will not come over the border to seek it. you have to you all for to secure the border if not there is no point without

all four of those items that is comprehensive reform for us to do what we need to do with just under 12 million people that are already here. the american people will not let up with talking about that and tell the first five are done. you cannot add to that problem of that 10 and 12 million problem? we should agree to help guide us what to do from here. they have children who are now american citizens. they're not leaving voluntarily. second, i can tell you from a law enforcement perspective there are not enough law enforcement federal/state county combined in the entire country to enforce and deport 12 million people.

so of those make sense if you like them or not are happy or not that is the truth. so that is the narrow lane what is left as availability for us. so have an agreement on border security and an agreement adoptions for those setter here. and as a republican party let's not be the anti-immigration party. we are not. we're not anti-immigration party. in fact, we believe is an opportunity for fox in one to come here on the legal basis. my great-grandfather was a mason in sicily. he wanted to come to the united states. he went through the process legally. when his ticket was called

to go my great-grandmother was nine months pregnant. and they got on the go. -- on the boat and she gave birth to my grandfather in the middle of the atlantic ocean on their way to the united states. i cannot imagine. so my mother costly teases her father you are nothing. you are not itel yen you are not american and you are born in the middle of the ocean. [laughter] my grandfather died when i was nine years old so i have very few memories but that is one of them. his reaction is he would give it read in the face do not say that in front of my grandson i am an american. i got there and i got to ellis island.

my grandfather was very proud his mother and father took the risk they took to come over to help build this country to make a better life. my grandfather was a mason as well for a good part of his career. they believed in hard work and help to build literally build jersey city with their hands. we cannot use that in this country we need people who come here legally though i continued to believe the truth about our country that you can become anything you want but think about that. to a generation is removed from the guy born on the boat on the layover his grandson is running for president of united states. we don't want to lose that in this country.

>> we have a few minutes left. let's tackle some other topics would be your plan to tackle i says? >> i guess the president has figured out there not tb he said he had no plan to destroy isis. but then he came back to say they're not savages. again, this type of vacillation and indecision in public emboldens our enemies. i will make it clear what i would do about i.c.e. is. we have for allies in the middle east who have a real motivation to bring the fight to isis the egyptians as jordanians and the saudis they know the existential threat to their nation. they want to bring the fight

to isis said we should encourage them to do so in four ways. first, we should arms them with the weapons that they need. second, we should be treating them down to the county level to the battalion level to make sure they are prepared and ready to fight. third, make sure we give them the type of air support that they need to do the things they need to do to working in conjunction with their air force. and we need to make sure we provide them with the capability to let them know where the best and most effective targets are. they're not working within a set of borders there in iraq and syria and to spread their capabilities to other parts of the region.

so we have to have a large part to support these allies the last part is american boots on the ground. this is their neighborhood we need to give them the opportunity to clean it up themselves. [applause] as president you cannot take the option off the table to say i will not. not under any circumstances said american troops to find i says. it can change or deteriorates and isis' becomes even more immediate threat you should at least consider that as an option. given the concerns of the folks in the region, and we do not want to make that on this effort. we want them to take the

lead but they need to know we will not back off the support and i think that is part of their concern with the conduct of iran and syria their confidence is low. >> you mentioned syria what is the national interest and how could you achieve that? >> we can see the address the syria has led to isis. soul is not necessarily done in a linear way. it is dynamic as world events upper and other people reacted then you have all whole new circumstance of what you read deal with before. also the american people have an interest to prevent genocide around the world. to under 20,000 syrians have

been killed by their own government after the president of united states said he would not let that happen. we need to understand that america's role as leader in the world also calls us to try to make sure that most of the subject of genocide is protected and we deal with those countries in the way to make it clear to others it is unacceptable so our interest is not only to contain and rollback prices by acting aggressively with syria that is opposed to the government and the isis activity, but also to send a clear signal to the world that americans do not want to see this happening in the world. if you look at jordan, a

serious situation hundreds of thousands of syrians poring over the jordanian border. they chose:significant iraqi refugees and over the course of time palestinian refugees. we have to be careful what happens to jordan. they are a great ally of this country and we cannot expect them to continue to take this hundreds of thousands of syrians pore over of their border to disable-- -- to destabilize the a jordanian regime then what happens to that? this is why we need a more strategic approach to foreign policy. despite the fact the president has not kept his word he has been very tactical with no overarching

strategy to head thank syria as genocidal press on that but today a lot talk about the iranian saddam on the israelis to like me the now let's go back to that. his foreign policy is like a pinball in a bad pinball machines it bounces all over the place because he does not understand apparently that when you shoot the pinball up into the machine it bounces off one of the bumpers it doesn't know where it is going sometimes it bounces back down at you were all the way back up the president doesn't understand that that's what he has no strategy it is not a tactical one of strategy that he has all over the world so the national interest of syria is the

region and the syrian and rest has led to an effective other countries in the region of the emboldening of isis and allies like jordan. >> moving to europe this is a question that has a lot of play in the u.s.. what is the thoughts of what is happening over there and the threat to us? >> the threat over there is ourselves we better not become priests every year headed in that direction. given the present -- percentage of jet -- debt to gdp so greece should be a cautionary tale to get our house in order to deal with

economic growth by helping to that economy is a bigger threat to be a threat to us but if the european union desirable greece to the deal a further downgrading of the european union and its economy would have an effect on the american economy so i think greece is the canary in the coal mine. to others of the european union so it is in the american interest to talk to the leaders to make sure that they just got the greeks to agree to that has a greater sense of stability that is eric is a threat to west and we should take a

good hard long look a what is happening in greece. we don't want to go down the road at the effect of the world economy. that is the significance of greece for the moment and something to pay close attention tarot -- to. >> 10 years ago remember the massive power outages in the northeast from the midwest through new england. how good use secure hour electric energy? >> the matter what you'd do it has to be between the private sector and government because one of the ways is that so much of the economy is based upon the ability to provide

constant and reliable power. there is a significant way to have fear inside our country. and immediately we thought terrorism when the lights went out. but the fact is the way to secure this is to have a strong stable partnership that administers that grid to make sure we continue to invest with research and development tuesday half a step ahead of those who try to shut us down. that is the big investment so that is a good question. the investments that we need to make to national security are broader in like this if we don't reconfigure spending and how we do that we will leave ourselves to

be added even higher tax nation that will have the inevitable drag on economic growth. or we will leave ourselves wide open to truly destabilize our country. has to be a partnership of private sector and that we invest to have money in the development of technology to keep us half a step ahead of those who try to injure us. that is a constant fight that will not end anytime soon. as the fibers because of more sophisticated. but is the investment of resources. but it is to bring focus to the mission and. what will i do to protect the electric grid? you better pray nothing. i have no capacity.

[laughter] i went to law school but what the president is doing is that kennedy had no idea how to get a man to the moon and back in 1960 but they were focused to a mission and those who did know did it. don't misinterpret. i cannot perfecta the grid by would inspire the people of the public and private sector to make sure we stay ahead. that is really what the president is able to do in eight the understandable way to say to their elected representatives let's do that. that is what leadership is

with those issues and dozens of others in the time. >> and he can restore diplomatic relations cuba has ben in the news had you feel about the president's actions? would you continue their relations? >> first of the president is dead wrong to do this not to negotiate but if cuba wants to be part of a civilized world then they need to be civilized. they are not. i will tell you it is personal to me. 40 years ago a new jersey state trooper was shot and killed in cold blood. she was arrested as a member of the black panther party and a tried and convicted for murder and sent to jail the black panther party was she was transferred to another prison broker out issue escaped to cuba she is

a fugitive for the last 40 years supported and paid by the cuban government. somehow held up as an example but she is a murderer and the top 10 most wanted domestic terrorist from this president's fbi. while she is on the list living in that country, this president takes a cue ball off the terrorist watch list. well that family of the murdered state trooper still sits at home warning their husband and father so american tourists can spend money to put it in the hands of the castro regime that supports this. with the president wants them to be serious about being civilized then send her home. let have opened ownership of property by your people

every american tourist site goes down the you give money to the castro regime the hotels, restaurants, they're all owned by a the castro regime. if you think he will do a great thing for those who are working down there remember they will be paid in cuban pesos. the difference will be kept by the castro regime. so i am for having real discussions with cuba to bring them back into the group of civilized nations but give us some indication that they will be civilized. the last piece is think about the fact all this goes on with the cuban government that does not allow access to the internet for their people and has taken the position is now to what

guantanamo back and they want reparations for the economic embargo. [laughter] this is the president's negotiating spot he gives to his church and then they ask for your pants. [laughter] and he has given that. it is outrageous to we could use the that coming? if you give formalization of relations without anything in return? they say we have a live one year. let's see what else we can get. i have any reason to continue to isolate cuba but has to stop isolating itself with its contact progress president of the united states i would end it. you bet and i would send home the a fugitive is that they are harboring purpose

of you want to be civilized country then participate the way they do for those who break the law and commit murder. [applause] >> president carter says he cannot think of one country had better relations today's man-made did when obama started we should amend that to say cuba. we do have better relations i cannot imagine that he will be proud of that legacy with their harboring murders of american law enforcement officers down there. >> thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate you joining us on behalf of new hampshire

manchester we appreciate you being here. [applause] >> well done. >> thanks for coming. enjoy your summer. go get them. [inaudible conversations]

>> thanks for coming. we love it. we love the way that you handle that with regards to spending. nice to meet you. >> great to see you. >> i babysat yesterday could not spend another day.

>> thank you very much for your executive action. >> you may debate difference for us in the way you got us the information. >> that is great to worked out very well. thank you. >> thank you governor. >> my brother was san hoboken and the supported you. >> nice to meet you. lots of luck. >> it was so interesting. you convinced me. i was not convince before. >> thank you.

[inaudible conversations] >> that is great. thanks for coming. >> good to see you again. >> great. good to see you again. thanks for coming. i appreciate that. [inaudible conversations] thanks for coming. >> that is important.

>> it just makes sense. >> very nice to meet you, governor. >> how are you? >> we're very happy to see you in the race. >> i am happy to be back. >> thanks for coming. >> we will keep bond. nice to see you. >> thanks for the question and the answer.

>>. >> that would be great. thanks. >> thanks for coming back. >> i appreciate your answers >> thank you very much. >> how are you? [laughter] governor i am not of the order of new hampshire but i want to shake your hand in support. >> of course, would you rather have the rebate? >> but look at kansas city. >> bad is better.

>> let's get that. >> thanks very much

next, more of c-span's road to the white house coverage. presidential candidate senator bernie sanders. the vermont democrat focused on the economy, immigration, and issues affecting latino's. this is just over an hour. >> good afternoon. i am the president and ceo of the united states hispanic chamber of commerce. and i have the honor of

representing hispanic owned firms that collectively contribute billions to the american economy. we also advocate on behalf of 250 major corporations and we do this through our network of over 200 local chambers and businesses nationwide. while the usatc represents the interests of business men and women who happen to be of hispanic descent we never forget that we are first and foremost american businesses. and every tax bill we pay, every job we create, every product that we manufacture and every service that we provide goes to benefit our american economy. now, theevepbt follows headlining stories concerning the involvement of presidential candidates with the hispanic community and it is that association that represents millions of hispanic business owners we have an accountability to ensure that their voices are heard by each

and every candidate. not only is business leaders but as taxpayers campaign donors and ultimately as voters. this q&a session is the third in a series already we've spoken to senator ted cruz and governor martin o'malley. and this forum is meant to set the record straight on a wide array of issues that concern hispanic americans. so today we will be talking about a wide array of issues including the economy, small business international trade immigration, climate change, and equal pay. frankly, issues that affect all americans. so with that, i would like to welcome to the stage senator bernie sanders. [applause]

>> thank you very much for being with us. we have been looking forward to this and i appreciate you making time to do this.

we recognize that obviously you're very busy here of late. so [inaudible] i want to get your take on that. now, we know that you've made significant gains affered you're averaging [inaudible] however, that still compares to the secretary clinton at around 60%. so the question is, mr. senator, are you as they say -- and what do you plan to stay viable to win the nomination? >> well, let me begin by thanking you very much for inviting me. this is a wonderful turnout. thank you all for being here. we start this campaign, go into this cam pain, absolutely as an underdog. there's nothing else --

[inaudible] if you and i were having a chat 3, 3-1/2 months ago and you asked me whether i was going to run for president i would have told you that i really did not know. my wife was not all that excited about the idea. my wife is a very smart woman. so we are kind of new into this game. i think it's fair to say that secretary clinton has been thinking about this for a lot longer than i have. and let me tell you some of the issues that we were struggling with when we were contemplating whether to get into this or not. and it has everything to do with the answer to your question. number one, did we have a message that would resonate with the american people? that message is that for 40 years the middle class of america has been disappearing while the wealthiest people and corporations are doing well. do we need fundamental changes? i thought that message would resonate. it is resonating.

the second question is that as a result of this disastrous citizens united supreme court decision, which in my view is one of the worst decisions ever rendered by a supreme court which basically says the weltsiest people in america you can buy elections. people will line up and give you hundreds of millions of dollars. we knew we would be outspent. but we thought we could raise enough money to run a winning campaign. we have gotten over 300,000 individual contributions. do you know what they average? $35 a piece. now, that is a different way to raise money than going to a super pac where millionaires sit there putting a half million or a million or $10 million. can we raise enough money to win? i think we can. the third issue is we understood that secretary clinton is very, very well known. that we would have to develop a strong grassroot's movement. and we are doing that. just last night we had 3500

organizational meetings in every state in this country. we believe that over 100,000 people came out. so to answer your question, you are right. poll numbers that you gave are right. but we have the momentum in early states like new hampshire and iowa we are doing significantly better than the national numbers. so i am not guaranteing victory but i think we have a very good chance to win if we can develop that grassroots movement all over this country. >> congratulations. i have to say that i certainly the message appears to be resonating. so congratulations on calling that one right. followup question. how would you respond to governor o'malley's likening your recent surge to that of donald trumps as if saying that both of you are nothing more than a summer fling? >> i've been doing what i do for many, many years. and when you have 100,000

people attending meetings last night, when you have rallies in which 8, 10, out, when you have a website which is being inundateded by hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people who are responding to our message that in this great country it is unacceptable that we have the most unequal distribution of wealth and income of any major winter country on earth, that we are the only major country that does not guarantee health care as a right, we are the only major country on earth that does not guarantee family and medical leave, paid sick leave, paid vacation time, that the rich get richer and everybody else is getting poorer. this is not a summer fling. these are issues that are resonating with the american people who very loudly and clearly are saying enough is enough. this economy and our political system belong to all of us and not to a handful of billionaires. >> good response. on to the economy and small

business. now, in a "washington post" article, you stated and i quote, i would not deny it. not for one second. i'm a democratic socialist. now, one of the most distinguishing factors of your candidacy is that you have very openly claimed to be a socialist. and while the ushcc stands for a free market economy where entrepreneurs should be able to pursue their limited dream with limited government regulation i find it very commendable that you're not shying away, not for a second, from your beliefs. in fact, we respect that very much. at the end what we respect most of any candidate is transparencey and consistency. however, as a business organization, your views do concern me a bit. so the question is, how would the sander economic platform translate into growth for american small businesses? >> good question.

before i answer this very important question, let me back up and put it into context. before we decide how we go forward we have to know where we are today. and sometimes we don't discuss that enough. where we are today is that median family income in america is $5,000 less -- almost $5,000 less than it was in 1999. where we are today is that we have the highest rate of childhood poverty. where we are today 45 million americans are living in poverty. where we are today is that a recent study came out from the economic policy institute and said about youth unemployment, for high school graduates between 17 and 20 who are white real unemployment is 33%. hispanic youth unemployment 36%, african american, 51%.

35 million people have no health insurance. we have a child care system which is a disaster. working families in most cases are not confident they can find that is what business people do. you look at cities all over america. what a san francisco doing? what can we see? from the business perspective how many small-business people struggle every day. >> an incredibly large portion. guest: i would say that a small